5th Mar 2013

Pension increases March 2013

Debbie McTaggart

From 20 March 2013 pension rates will not only increase in line with cost of living increases, but will also benefit from the introduction of the Clean Energy Supplement. This will result in an increase of $35.80 per fortnight on a single Age Pension. 

 

 

Single Age Pension

 

 Previous Amount 

 From 20 March ‘13 

 Increase 

 Base

$712.00

$733.70

$21.40

 Supplement

$60.60

$61.20

$0.60

 Clean Energy Supplement 

$0.00

$13.50

$13.50

 Total

$772.60

$808.40

$35.50

 

Partnered Age Pension (each)

 

 Previous Amount 

 From 20 March ‘13 

 Increase 

 Base 

$536.70

$553.10

$16.40

 Supplement

$45.70

$46.10

$0.40

 Clean Energy Supplement 

$0.00

$10.20

$10.20

 Total

$582.40

$609.40

$27.00

 

Do you think $35.80 per fortnight is enough of an increase? If not, by how much do you think the single Age Pension needs to increase?



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qbeebill
5th Mar 2013
2:47pm
So we are to get an increase in our pensions ..good , but the increase is not enough, It should be three times as much (ie. $90.00 per fortnight on top of our current pension. This would be a good start increase .and may help many of us who have been ripped of in our super because of the world cash down fall.. Bill Kerr
tia-maria
5th Mar 2013
5:27pm
qbeebill,
We understand were your coming from and its about time us retired men and women stand together as for our right in this generations we are in its bloody difficuts for all of us.
not wanting
6th Mar 2013
4:27pm
I have been on the age pension for 11 years and feel that I have been well served by the pension I have no other income, live in private rental with rent assistance and am reasonably comfortable, well fed and really don't need the impending increase. Those of you who are in need of an increase must be living beyond your means and expect the taxpayer to fund your excesses, John.
tia-maria
6th Mar 2013
6:56pm
Hello not wanting,
I just love your type of comment good on you if you can live good on your pension.........BUT I bet you have excellent health as many retired pensioners have chronic health issues are out of pocket big time...........and only another pensioner would understand how tuff it is........Not a Do Gooder...........Dont tell this pensioner I live beyond my means as for one I have Chronic Renal Failure but these last few years has got tougher I dont go away on holidays we cant afford to ok..have a good day
Precious
10th Mar 2013
2:17pm
I wonder how much pension we would like...what are everyones views on this....I think we all have to manage our affairs so as to have enough money to live on......some have debts, some have cars, some are sending monies to overseas ladies, some live with families in granny flats (mine did) some live together as a couple(thats the best way).......
tia-maria
15th Apr 2013
1:56pm
Well Hello Precious,
were are you coming from????????? give me a break dear girl ???WHATS ?? this sending money to overseas ladies are you for real???????who do you know that does this type of thing????
ceebee
5th Mar 2013
2:51pm
Phooey. So, either a .60c or $14.10 increase. Public housing rent increase will eat the base increase. Still, at this point, up is up, no matter how ineffectual.
rusty2
8th Mar 2013
4:09pm
You are lucky to love in public housing no land rates water rates house maintence etc. and very hard to remove .
It was only ment for people unable to earn an income.
ceebee
8th Mar 2013
4:38pm
I am no longer able to earn an income. Sheesh. I'll swap medical condition and the associated (non-govt) expenses gladly. You wouldn't like it.
not so super
5th Mar 2013
3:37pm
i paid fortnightly superannuation contributions for 39 years and when i retired, i continued to pay tax on my fortnightly pension. Last July us superannuants got the first of 2 yearly rises based on cpi. My net fortnightly increase was....$1.32 and an $8.00 a f/n decrease in tax to help offset the carbon tax. Why are superannuants continually ignored by gov'ts ..eg the promised $500.00 a year discount on any investments>...We just get screwed in every financial direction.
Aaron
5th Mar 2013
4:45pm
If you're paying tax on your pension, you must be getting a very substantial pension. I'll wager it's far above what most old-age pensioners get, who have been unfortunate enough to not have enough superannuation, or who have been robbed of their super. I don't think you've got too much to complain about - try living on a basic pension, when you have been robbed of all your assets.
digiom
5th Mar 2013
8:21pm
Aaron

I pay tax on my pension of $1109 per fortnight - not a princely sum. For this, I contributed 5% of my income for 22 years and I also paid normal tax at the same time. Think on it before making silly comments. I do not get any government benefits, only some state ones.
LENYJAC
5th Mar 2013
4:20pm
WONDER WHEN THESE OVERPAID POLLIES(NOTE THE LAST 4 LETTERS) WILL GET A PAYRISE IM BETTING IT WILL MATCH OUR RISE BUT THAT AMOUNT BY THE HOUR POOR BASTARDS??? BUT I SPOSE IT MUST BE HARD FOR THEM TOO??????????????? ((CHOKE))
particolor
5th Mar 2013
4:49pm
Gee Taaa!! ..May A Bird Of Paradise Fly Up There Cute Little Noses!!!
jo'
11th Mar 2013
1:59pm
Or somewhere else !! Their smug privileged faces make me sick*The pay increases they get in most instances are not deserved . Just a nice little top up for their holiday fund and more Pfft !! Nuff Said Jo'
Aaron
5th Mar 2013
4:49pm
Lenyjac, you must be a very unfeeling person. Have some sympathy for those poor pollies on Struggle St - it's a constant battle juggling the payments on the 7 bedroom 3 storey house in Toorak, the payments on the cabin cruiser, the 2 Beemers, the beach house, the European Ski resort holidays, the private school fees - and paying for the household help, too! [;-)
LENYJAC
5th Mar 2013
8:06pm
YEA I DO GET A LITTLE TEARY WHEN I THINK OF THOSE POOR STRUGGLING POL(LIES)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
QHR04
6th Mar 2013
8:47am
ROFL
student
6th Mar 2013
9:14am
stir stir :)
Pip
6th Mar 2013
6:15pm
'like' POL(IES)!
jo'
9th Mar 2013
6:19pm
I have lost faith in the 'Pol lies.They are mainly self serving and have NO idea and NONE what the real world is like! I am just am sick at the prospect of having to sum up the effort to go and vote for one of them at Election time !!!! I can't believe any of their promises :-(
alamoe417
13th Mar 2013
11:07am
All the Pollies need to take a large pay CUT. Thety get paid for sitting on their asses all day, make wrong decisions, and give themselves pay increases. Pensioners will have a hard time this year with the increase in electricity and gas. I really also feel for the nurses and farmers, who get so little for the crops and fruit they grow, and we are importing from the USA and overseas. I was in Hospital a few weeks ago, and the evening shift we had 2 nurses who had to tend to 16 patients who had all had surgery, they were absolute angels, but my heart went out to them for the fabulous job they were doing. This Government needs to get their priorities in order, FAST.
seagirl
5th Mar 2013
4:50pm
the penisons should be put up to $100 per person a fortnight with the price of everythink going how can we eat i would like to have the pollies wages for a fews months that would be nice and thay can have my penison any day. i just can't understand why this is happens to us we all paid our taxes. its so sad the thay just dont care about the older people in how thay are living.
tia-maria
5th Mar 2013
5:25pm
Hi Seagirl,
I can understand were your coming from as many many retired pensioners are struggleing big times these days ,(as back in the past we could rob peter to save paul as the saying going)
But I bet you anything our thoughts during the elections we are the last ones to be thought about........
has anyone else thinking the same as seagirl.
LENYJAC
5th Mar 2013
8:07pm
YES
tia-maria
15th Apr 2013
1:59pm
Unfortunately not too many are game enough to speak up for themselves
Jurassicgeek
5th Mar 2013
4:53pm
Pensions should at least be equal to the minimum wage or even more. These piddly increases get swallowed very quickly with price increases.Our poor struggling pollies are in a bad way though as they need their massive pay rises to fund their frivolities.I invite any politician to live on a pension for a year. Doing it for a week or 2 would be simple.I wont get any takers.....they are all too busy lining their own coffers.

This forum is not the place to deal with these issues. Pick a party that works closest to your needs and use the Ballot box!
jo'
11th Mar 2013
2:03pm
You are right J G I'll be doing that for certain !!! Cheers Jo'
HOLA
10th Jun 2013
12:46pm
We hardly hear anything from Pollies working in my Electorate, I can only see from the local papers who is getting their photo taken at some "do" or other, putting a spade in a hole to plant a tree, and going for a Fun Run to raise money for some charity. Why don't they get out on the streets and meet the people. Not like Abbott and Gillard talking to school children, they can't even vote. Remember back in the 50's and 60's people got up on a soapbox in the Domain and got issues off their chest. My Dad loved it and he said everyone had a good time, and a lot of sense was spoken.
Jurassicgeek
5th Mar 2013
4:54pm
Good one Aaron
catsahoy
5th Mar 2013
5:05pm
as a married couple that will mean about $16 each. the ministry of housing will take about $5 of that, my electricity easy way payments have just increased by another $20 per fortnight, so where is my rise,? its gone before i get it, these increases should not be allowed to be included in rents in public housing, i recently recieved a letter saying my rent was increasing by $3,50 ,upon asking why i was told it was because a few months ago i got an increase of $4, so i was left with the princely sum of 50cents, it would be a joke if it wasnt so pathetic. we need at least
$75. CLEAR MONEY, no strings attached, i no longer put on the cooler in hot weather or the heater in the cold, yet im still struggling each fortnight, these pollies have got to be joking,
geomac
5th Mar 2013
8:43pm
It sounds like I,m in a similar position to you . Your rent is pegged at 25% of income or at least thats the figure in Victoria .Every time your income increases your rent is adjusted to be 25% of your income . Yesterday I got my new pension card card , March every year , along with advice about various reductions for services for people with a card . We also get a one off train travel thing on Vicrail and rego reduction . Glasses , hearing aid , PBS and things like water rates and in my case a taxi card which means half price fare . The pension is to meet basic needs and for me it does that plus I bank regularly , pay bills and feed myself . I can,t comment on your situation only my own . I have no super fund or trust to cushion things yet get along ok . If I peg out tomorrow my funeral is not my families problem because I,ll leave enough to pay for it . I think your $75 is unrealistic , not enough taxpayers to fund it . Think yourself lucky its not 1950 or 1960 .
QHR04
6th Mar 2013
8:49am
last rise the Dept of Housing ( and homelessness. very appropriate) QLD took the lot!
Precious
6th Mar 2013
9:43am
Someone told me many years ago when I was working full time, that the old age pension is given to assist us to live and not to live on.....it should be supplemented with paid work of how many hours we are able to do as we age.....I really think over the years we have got to the state where maybe I say maybe we have all come to depend on it entirely and never give another thought about where all this money is going to come from...we shout, bark and talk about it..doesnt change a thing..Married or couples are far better off than a single living alone etc...I put an idea forward recently that maybe the local govt could consider two people living together instead of all these singles just existing (some really are) together and it would certainly ease up the accomodation problems which will definately occur within the next few years with the asylum seekers etc etc..other european countries encourage their seniors to do this and people seem far happier, not whingeing so much and live longer and healthier..I cannot see the sense at all of continuing life as a single when some have to totally depend on others for help and managing their affairs....the jids have their own lives to lead but some elderlies need them to help with lifts mainenance etc etc and company as well..pressurising everyone.....what does anyone think???
Precious
6th Mar 2013
10:44am
You can log in to the Govt housing website in each state and work out how much they will increase your trent...
Boof
5th Mar 2013
5:09pm
Pension increase is so not enough to keep up. Anyone would think it is a Liberal coalition Government in power. I usually write in to the following address if I am dissatisfied about anything. OK. No one may read it but if one doesn't let them klnow how we feel, I guess they will keep on keeping on...."Labor Connect"
tia-maria
5th Mar 2013
5:32pm
Boof,
I always said dont trust any Politicians especially in today times.we have a PM Gillard who has told many of lies, and Tony Abbott keeps making mistakes before he thinks about what he going to say.....Yes I was ex-Labor but she wont get my vote.
Precious
6th Mar 2013
10:36am
Never did get mine...where I live nearby many Labour people I wonder what they are going to vote this time around...I never got over what she did with K Rudd....talk about dictatorship...I was flabbergasted to see this happen in our supposedly free society.....I
MITZY
6th Mar 2013
11:00am
Hi Precious - It's not right what happened to Kevin Rudd but she didn't actually do it, the caucus installed her and if not her it would have been someone else they hated Rudd so much. One party is no better than the other, the Libs did exactly the same thing to the much respected Bob Menzies while he was P.M. The current Libs (although in Opposition) have ditched their leaders Brendan Nelson (after Howard) then Malcolm Turnbull and now they have Abbott. That's three Federal opposition leaders in approx. 5.1/2 years. We all have to remember we are voting to install the member of the party we favour in our local electorate. The Libs and Lab pick who they think would be the best person to lead the party and the country, we don't pick the P.M. unless we happen to live and vote in that person's electorate. I feel sorry for all the hard working aspirants in the various electorates all over the country, maybe we should have a box to tick on our ballot papers when we vote for the party we prefer which indicates who we would like for P.M. There are a lot better people in both major parties than the ones blathering on and point scoring against each other.
Precious
10th Mar 2013
2:08pm
Thanks for info and your good grace in replying....never mind she may be better off in the back becnches if at all.......lolololol
Jurassicgeek
17th Apr 2013
12:23pm
Boof,
Pensioners get the rough end of a pineapple no matter who is in power. One thing is for sure those who are "in" will not cut themselves short when their time comes. Labour has done their dash with me but If I were to vote for Abbott because Labour stinks it would be like eating shit sandwiches because you dont like bread! I have no clue as to where my vote will go this time round.. I am disgusted with the whole lot of them.....absolutely disgusted!
Boof
5th Mar 2013
5:13pm
"Labor Connect" It doesn't come out in the comment section, but I'll give it another go. . See hoiw it goes this time. If not Google Labor Connect for address.
Young Simmo
5th Mar 2013
5:33pm
The unfair about the pension is the single pension should be a higher portion of the couples pension because. My wife and I are getting by fairly well, but if one of us dies, the following items still cost same. Rent, Car Rego, Car Insurance, Electricity, Water, House Insurance, to name a few and the quality of life will take a dive. Mind you I think it may be different for Politicians, as the poor buggers will have to do their own washing up.
MITZY
5th Mar 2013
7:06pm
This is where I have noticed such a big difference balancing my budget on the single pension. July 2013 my husband passsed away and we were on disability/carer/carer allowance payments at the time. We managed on these payments for many years by being careful and not wasteful. As you indicate, once your husband/wife passes away a lot of your costs are the same. Adding to what you have mentioned, I am finding I need to buy smaller supermarket items but the smaller the tin, the dearer the cost. If you go to ALDI for instance, most of the food is packaged (which is good) but its packaged for "families" not singles. So the carbon tax compensation of $13.50 and pension incr. of $22.00 amounting to $35.50 (not $35.80 as indicated by Debbie) will obviously help, but any increase whether it be pensions or people's salaries and wages is always offset by rising costs.
jo'
11th Mar 2013
1:49pm
I lost my husband in /October 2010.With both our pensions we managed to get along ok. Now as you say ,
Being on a 'single pension' I still have 'Rates,Insurances, Water,Electricity and more.
I am glad of course to have the pension. But it is not nearly enough for someone like me. The pension is half now,but the bills are not. Jo'
Young Simmo
11th Mar 2013
2:06pm
Yes Jo, that is why I have a plan which is probably easier for a bloke and it goes like this. If my wife dies first I will sell everything up and buy a caravan suitable for one. Then I will hit the road and be able to do a bit of driving and a bit of metal detecting and site seeing. I will have a letter in the front of my car and caravan telling the police my son's phone numbers and other necessary information to ensure every thing goes smoothly.
student
15th Apr 2013
4:14pm
Egyptian and jo', my sympathies. However you will survive your grief and accepting you new position in life. For a long time I could not buy clothes unless I could validate new clothes. I still have a bit of trouble buying for me, but I don 't need very much now :) You never forget but you do learn to accept the death of a partner. Good luck to both of you :)
Hasbeen
5th Mar 2013
5:43pm
Come on folks, stop winging. Time you remembered the government doesn't have any money. Every cent we get has to come out of our kids pay packet in taxes, & most of them need all tjhey can get.

Ceebee have you ever said thanks to the pax payer for providing you with somewhere to live? I'll bet my rates, insurance & maintenance bill is no smaller than your rent, & I've paid for the property. I've just been quoted a littlew over $5000 to replace my couple of water tanks, that are now beyond patching, but I'll manage. I've been watchibg them & saving for a couple of years now, so I won't be reduced to eating bolied turnips for too long.
Young Simmo
5th Mar 2013
5:52pm
Hasbeen, I will say thanks to the young ones when all the single mothers say thanks for their baby bonus, and the 50 or so other free handouts they get.
ceebee
5th Mar 2013
6:27pm
Hasbeen...... bite me. I was that tax payer in my time. You've been saving ! Wow, your medical expenses are obviously far less than many many of the rest of us. Well done and good for you.
geomac
5th Mar 2013
8:45pm
Common sense comment Hasbeen . It will fall on many deaf ears though . Australia has become the land of the whinge .
jim&music
6th Mar 2013
12:43am
Hasbeen and geomac it seems that you are two of the lucky ones who can manage to save some of your income/super for extras such as new water tanks. Personally I worked and paid taxes for fifty years, but I was retrenched a couple of times and in the 50's, 60's and 70's my employers were not taking out super from my wages. Having been a victim of cancer and other problems we have private health cover which costs us the equivalent of one of our weekly pensions each month. Obviously we are not planning an overseas holiday, but so far manage to live comfortably without missing any meals, on a small percentage of the minimum wage.
As for thanking the current tax payers, I feel that I should be entitled to some of the tax I paid during those fifty years of work, plus interest. I'm pretty sure I wont be on a pension for that length of time. geomac- I am not a whinger but I do believe in the right to protest against those things I find unjust.
student
6th Mar 2013
9:29am
I really do get sick and tired of the 'Me Me' mentality. Sure we paid our taxes but that was then and paid for things like child endowment etc. Now our children work and pay taxes FOR US. Every time the forum is about money and pensions can come into it, the whingers rise. Jim, you may not be a whinger, but you are using the same rhetoric as the whinger. Bitterness gives you ulcers, be positive (and no I don't mean to say 'We are badly done by' instead of saying 'I think we are badly done by' ) Have a sunny disposition and not a bleak, nasty one. You'll feel better.

Now I can wait for the barrage of abuse from the usual whingers :)
Precious
10th Mar 2013
2:28pm
Someone many years ago when I was persuing jobs etc (never out of work) and reached over over 50s why hadnt i found a husband...woho there you go the additional pension would hav e come in handy now...well I have a part pension from UK as many many do here and from other countries too Holland, etc etc and many more from europe have joined in....that money pays my bills......if it doesnt I am living beyond my reach.....don`t go without as I said previously but its juggling all the time with the back up of family moral support and girl friend we just help out when we have to.......its better than being in a dictatorship...by far...............we paid out N atInsurances in UK when both of us working hubby and I and I get now the pension on the portion that stopped when we left the country....his was the higher income...many people get these pensions but wouldnt probably put it all on here..................many single guys here too work part time.....lolol.
The Hard Way
5th Mar 2013
7:12pm
What pension? I met a Thai lady in Australia back in 2007 and went to Thailand in 2008. I returned to Australia to register for my pension in 2010 and was paid for the first month, after that it stopped. I was told that because I was out of the country two years before retirement I forfeited my pension. However, if I go back to Australia I can reclaim my pension but I have to stay for two years and after that I can return to Thailand and retain my pension. I don't understand the logic in this, if I come back and claim the various allowances it will cost the tax payer more than to just pay me the base pension where I am. What are your thoughts?
student
6th Mar 2013
9:32am
Oh I can't wait to hear the replies to this post :) The Gov. put a time limit on how long pensioners can be out of Aus. so people couldn't rort the system :)
robmur
5th Mar 2013
8:14pm
The actual pension increase on March 20 is 3%. The Supplement for partnered couples is 0.88% apprx. Even if the Supplement was raised by the same percentage as the pension i.e 3%, the Supplement increase would only be $1.37 Chicken feed. The increase should be focused on a substantial increase in the Supplement over and above the current 3% increase in the pension. The scope of the Supplement should be widen to include the rising costs of all utilities, transport costs and rents or rates increases, and still include the current inclusions of the Supplement, such as telephone and computer costs etc. If the Supplement was to increase by a predetirmined monetary amount each March and September based on the average increase of utilities, rents/rates and transport costs, and not by some rediculous amount of 0.60 cents for singles and 0,40 cents for couples, we might be getting somewhere. Although still not generous, I would recommend the Supplement be increased by $10 per six months or $20 per year for starters.
Based on the 20 March 2013 pension increase would be for singles - Base $773.70, Supplement $70.60, Clean Energy Supplement $13.50. A total of $857.80.
For a couple (each) - Base $553.10, Supplement $55.70, Clean Energy Supplement $10.20. Total $619.00.
For September - Base increase by the CPI or what ever is used, Supplement by a further $10 + the Clean Energy Supplement.
What would kill this idea is that the fedederal government would come back and say that State governments already give some concessions on the areas I've suggested be included in the Supplement. However, these concessions are minimal compared to the increased costs i.e in Victoria the pension concession increase on car registration was $48 per year. Add to that extraordinary increases in utility and rate costs despite the concessions given. A monetary increase in the Supplement would be most welcome, not 0.60 and 0.40 respectively.
It is a fact that Australia has the worst record in the Western World of paying its aged pensioners. The Lucky Country isn't so lucky once you are old and depend on the government for ones livelihood.
wally
5th Mar 2013
10:52pm
I feel sympathy for Egyptian when she tells us that her husband passed away in July 2013. I hope this is a "typographical" misprint.
MITZY
5th Mar 2013
11:33pm
It wasn't necessary to be so insensitive by alluding to a typographical error I made. It should have been July 2012 and in 6 days time my best mate of 48 years will have passed away 8 months ago and I'm hurting. Why would you wish to make this type of comment? As far as I can see you have so far today made no comment on the subject matter of the 20th March Pension Increase?
Young Simmo
5th Mar 2013
11:43pm
Egyptian, you have to make exceptions for people like Wally who have never made a mistake in an entire life of 99 years. It worries me that I might be like him in another 26 years, UGH.
student
6th Mar 2013
9:35am
hey Wal, I understand.:)
Abe
5th Mar 2013
11:19pm
Thailand's calendar years started 543 BC so I was born in 2485, which is 1942 AD. Here it is now 2556, Chiang Mai, Northern Thailand.
Fair Go
5th Mar 2013
11:22pm
Downloaded some stats from internet a while ago. If they're correct, in a graph on "public pension spending" (this was in 2007), guess which country is on the bottom of the graph? The countries were all western countries, so what is our excuse? I thought we were the best off in the world, according to our wonderful pollies!! Also, another list of "incomes in old age", basically the same countries, we come in second last, with only the good old USA below us. Funny, that.
catsahoy
5th Mar 2013
11:33pm
gee bee, if you can save on a pension, then i dont know how you live, because every cent of our pension is spoken for, like you we will not die leaving someone else to pay , we have a funeral fund that will cover us adaquatlly, you say i am being unrealistic when i say $75 a week more, most people say a lot more,[i meant each fortnight, not week,sorry] . we have no other savings, i AM grateful for what i get, but worked from 14, until 62, my husband from 13 until 65, paid a lot of tax in that time, while a lot are a heck worse off than me, the question we are being asked today is what we think is fair and equitable pay to live DECENTLY, not as paupers,
catsahoy
5th Mar 2013
11:33pm
gee bee, if you can save on a pension, then i dont know how you live, because every cent of our pension is spoken for, like you we will not die leaving someone else to pay , we have a funeral fund that will cover us adaquatlly, you say i am being unrealistic when i say $75 a week more, most people say a lot more,[i meant each fortnight, not week,sorry] . we have no other savings, i AM grateful for what i get, but worked from 14, until 62, my husband from 13 until 65, paid a lot of tax in that time, while a lot are a heck worse off than me, the question we are being asked today is what we think is fair and equitable pay to live DECENTLY, not as paupers,
catsahoy
5th Mar 2013
11:33pm
gee bee, if you can save on a pension, then i dont know how you live, because every cent of our pension is spoken for, like you we will not die leaving someone else to pay , we have a funeral fund that will cover us adaquatlly, you say i am being unrealistic when i say $75 a week more, most people say a lot more,[i meant each fortnight, not week,sorry] . we have no other savings, i AM grateful for what i get, but worked from 14, until 62, my husband from 13 until 65, paid a lot of tax in that time, while a lot are a heck worse off than me, the question we are being asked today is what we think is fair and equitable pay to live DECENTLY, not as paupers,
catsahoy
5th Mar 2013
11:33pm
gee bee, if you can save on a pension, then i dont know how you live, because every cent of our pension is spoken for, like you we will not die leaving someone else to pay , we have a funeral fund that will cover us adaquatlly, you say i am being unrealistic when i say $75 a week more, most people say a lot more,[i meant each fortnight, not week,sorry] . we have no other savings, i AM grateful for what i get, but worked from 14, until 62, my husband from 13 until 65, paid a lot of tax in that time, while a lot are a heck worse off than me, the question we are being asked today is what we think is fair and equitable pay to live DECENTLY, not as paupers,
HOLA
10th Jun 2013
1:00pm
Catsahoy, why do you repeat yourself 4 times, I think we got it the first time or do you have an impediment.?
Young Simmo
10th Jun 2013
1:29pm
HOLA, let me guess you are the only person in the whole of Australia that has never made a mistake. I feel sorry for the people around you. I will only click once so I don't have to suffer wrath of your tongue.
Penqueen1949
6th Mar 2013
12:33am
I personally would love a pension increase of $100 a fortnight or failing that have my rent pegged to only 25% of my income. I am on a single Disability Pension paying private rent. I just had to chuckle a couple of years ago when my rent went up $5 a week and my rent assistance went up $0.5 a week..... I chuckled so as not to be stressed..... I pay all my bills early, electricity is prepaid by direct debit and while I am careful, I don't go cold or stay hot. I only have one pedestal fan and an oil heater, no aircon. I have not bothered replacing the tv, I prefer music. I don't smoke, drink or gamble. I have a beloved elderly cat with multiple health problems who has given me unconditional love and companionship over 12 years. I am not complaining but the extra that I suggested would make my life a lot easier.
Penqueen1949
6th Mar 2013
12:33am
I personally would love a pension increase of $100 a fortnight or failing that have my rent pegged to only 25% of my income. I am on a single Disability Pension paying private rent. I just had to chuckle a couple of years ago when my rent went up $5 a week and my rent assistance went up $0.5 a week..... I chuckled so as not to be stressed..... I pay all my bills early, electricity is prepaid by direct debit and while I am careful, I don't go cold or stay hot. I only have one pedestal fan and an oil heater, no aircon. I have not bothered replacing the tv, I prefer music. I don't smoke, drink or gamble. I have a beloved elderly cat with multiple health problems who has given me unconditional love and companionship over 12 years. I am not complaining but the extra that I suggested would make my life a lot easier.
AlbertC
6th Mar 2013
6:09am
like all you other people out their i am a pensioner only just get by week to week then just when you think your on par whamy !up goes the cost of living 1 pace forward 2 paces back so we spend the next year all over again trying to get in front. it is a no win situation especially when you know that pollies get a massive pension after 10 yrs in office and are permitted to work in a different big bucks job and not loose any of their pension rites this sucks that is what i call ripping of the taxpayers. plus their supper rites don't get taxed like those that have super. wake up call to older pensioners over 70 dont listen to what the government says about you dont have to vote any more its your rite to vote by not voting you give them avictory you may not want them to have. have a nice day.
gonebush
6th Mar 2013
6:55am
lam a single age pensioner and is great we are getting a rise but can honestly say l am ok ,l rent privately so get a rent assist.,l dont go hungry l dont go hot,or cold have a little dog to keep me busy have got a shed of woodworking tools to make small wood projects ,so l reckon the secrect here is get out of the PUBS,GIVE UP THE CIGGSIES,AND KEEP AWAY FROM THE POKIES,l pay my electricity fortnightly into my account using BPay so yes lam alright and quite enjoy being retired which l did when l turned 60 being a retuned serviceman so yes have not regretted the move at all and l run a 4x4 as well to get around and live in a regional town ok dont use the car much will agree ,only for shopping so if you watch what one is doing its fine
Penqueen1949
6th Mar 2013
12:05pm
Gone Bush, please do not assume that every pensioner goes to the pub, smokes and or gambles..... I certainly don't and there is no need to shout by using capital letters..... I am glad that you are able to enjoy your retirement and are kept occupied by your little dog and wood working interests. I also am interested in wood work but due to inner ear balance receptor damage caused by middle ear infections I have been unable to properly utilize my mini lathe and scroll saw.
Some people have to pay incredible rent prices and yet can't afford to move so are stuck in a vicious cycle. I consider myself fortunate to not live where rent takes most of my income. I only see my sons yearly if that as they are scattered around Australia and two are still serving members of the ADF.
Henry
6th Mar 2013
7:08am
What I don't seem to understand is why a husband and wife, both retired and both on a pension should get less each than a single pensioner. After all they both worked very hard to get to whatever they are now, so why should they be punished simply for being married?
Of course, they could divorced (legally, but not physically), then their pensions would increase considerably.
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MITZY
6th Mar 2013
10:42am
Hi to Henry and Wife: I guess, Henry, if you add up your new pension from 20th March with the figures depicted above, and you and your wife receive a full age pension you each get $609.40 = $1,218.80 per fortnight x 2 again for the month ($2,437.60).
A single pensioner on the full entitlements from 20th March receives $808.40 per fortnight, so, x 2 = $1,616.80 per month. The difference between what you receive per month and what a single pensioner receives per month is $820.80 more. I don't think pensions are worked out fairly but I don't think we get a pension based on how hard we worked during our lifetimes and how much tax we paid during that time, we all paid different amounts of tax based on what we earned, but some "lucky" & "clever" taxpayers, paid no tax at all distributing their incomes into family trusts and the like and eliminating or significantly reducing their tax bills with trust distributions etc.). If we both own our own home, we have the equal amount of bills such as home buildings, (mine is a shared buildings insurance with my good neighbour because we are a single-level duplex which is a strata title, current premium $530 each p.a.) we also put $125 each twice a year into a sinking fund for future maintenance, the small amount we contribute is because the duplex is only 2 years old. Then, like you, I have home contents insurance, car insurance, green slip, pink slip, but no car rego being a pensioner. Like you, I have regular expenses to budget for such as electricity/gas, Council rates and water rates, petrol, car services, food, phone/internet, home/garden maintenance. Currently LifeChoices is asking if the $35.50 single pension increase is sufficent and/or fair. Pensioners find it difficult to get inside the "heads" of the politicians who decide what remuneration we get per fortnight, so if we can give LifeChoices enough posts to forward to our government, eventually we might get a fairer outcome .... but don't hold your breath! Some pensioners are better off than others also. I worked in private enterprise (no superannuation ever until it became compulsory and it started off at 3% of salary). I retired early with $8,000 lump sum from the 3% super deducted from salary. Early retirement meant going on a carer pension to look after my husband with MS. He went onto disability pension and he had worked in private enterprise or for himself with no super also. After 24 years with MS he passed away July 2012, so you can imagine I notice the difference in receiving the single age pension now, compared to the married/partnered carer/disability pensions. I am stating my present circumstances, hopefully not sounding like I am complaining, but if we pensioners had received just the pension increase and no Clean Energy compensation on 20th March, I would say the pension increase for single/married/disability/carers and others was inadequate. I doubt very much the Clean Energy supplement is fully covering the higher costs we pay for food (the dearest in the world) and electricity. Australia, in the top 15 wealthiest countries in the world pays their pensioners the second lowest pension benefits in the world.
I think they could do a whole lot better if you compare our benefits with some other countries (say Austria and Germany for instance).
speakup
6th Mar 2013
7:32am
I will be satisfied when my pension allowance is increased by the same percentage as our overpaid Prime Minister and all her M.Ps plus all the rest of our so called Public servants in Australia the most over Over Governed ? country in the world. Ms Gillard earns more money from the tax payers here with a population of app.24 million than the President of the U.S.A population 314 million.Check on the amount of increase our Prime Minister has received since she took office, you will be surprised, and they have the audacity to give single Pensioner just over $2.50 a day increase.Just to go to the tip in Qld. costs $11 with no reductions for Pensioners and if you forget to fasten your seatbelt it will cost you $400 ,very cheap if you are a C.E,O on $20,000 plus per week,but for Pensioners a weeks income
There are a few countries in Europe where these fines are paid by a percentage of wages but not here WHY
Henry
6th Mar 2013
7:40am
What, do you want to live in the luxury you are unacustomed to? - only joking!
I agree wtih you and the only reason why we are getting this increase is because of the upcoming elections.
As far as the other charges you mention I believe we (as The Seniors Party) should have policies to cover these discrepancies and they are so many!
Are you a member yet? Should you become one perhaps you may be able to help us with policies.
MITZY
6th Mar 2013
8:52am
We are receiving the pension increases twice a year, every year, on 20th March and 20th September. It's not because we are having an election. This is part of normal budgets brought down in May each year. The second increase we are receiving is Clean Energy Supplement compensation. I think, not sure, when the carbon tax is abolished after the anticipated 5 year period, and we go onto an emissions trading scheme, we will lose the Clean Energy Supplement, maybe someone could verify this. Anyhow, if there is a change of government we will most probably lose the Clean Energy Supplement straight away. I'm not a member of the Seniors' Party and wouldn't entertain the idea of belonging to any political party. I believe we should voice our opinions strongly with our local member, and if that doesn't work go to the state or federal government member for answers. You do get a response.
roccy
6th Mar 2013
9:42am
All this deeming and controlling what people own and earn is a lot of crap, just think how many public servants it takes to control all the paperwork and chasing people that are trying to earn a bit extra to lift their standard of living, and the stress it puts on the elderly after they have worked all their lives.
My view for what it's worth, once a person reaches retirement age give them the pension no questions asked, any income they may have from whatever means is added to the pension and they submit a tax return like any taxpayer but without any deductions allowed, the government saves on public servants required, legal fees to chase the cheats and we don't create criminals of the elderly, pensioners have more money to spend, government collects more GST and you create more employment which means more taxpayers more income less people on unemployment, government win win win win, just saying
Joan Tong
6th Mar 2013
9:55am
We are delighted with the increase and will adjust our budget accordingly. I am dissappointed with so many negative comments and wonder what they expect. I see the pension as our base on which to explore how best we can live...not how bad!!! Maybe we are over-budgeted, but with each pension's dollar accounted for, and before anything else we give 10% to God's work. and then it's apportioned to Food, clothing, utilities, rates/rent, insurance AND HOLIDAYS!! Yes, we are able to budget so much per allowance to holidays and over a period of years have saved regularly and now can enjoy a 'dream' trip to Europe. We save approx $1000 monthly. No we don't smoke, drink or gamble... but we eat, drink eat and lively luxuriously. I believe some of our age-group don't budget and consequently spend on items that i don;'t believe the pensions is meant for!! THANK YOU FOR THE INCREASE.
qbeebill
6th Mar 2013
10:54am
Joan, Perhaps you have other income other than your Pension..and is it a single pension or a double Pension... if its a single pension that means you are living on only approx $600 per month, if you are saving $1000 per month ??? How can you pay all your bills and budget for the other things in life you talk about... Bill
Penqueen1949
6th Mar 2013
12:21pm
Joan, my rent takes approximately 42% of my pension and that gets paid before I eat and feed myself and my precious 12 year old cat. Not every pensioner is fortunate enough to own their own home or is well enough to derive other income besides the pension. Not all of us drink, smoke and or gamble either..... I sure as hell don't.....
geomac
6th Mar 2013
12:32pm
Penqueen
Thats a hefty slice of your pension so I assume you are not in public housing , 25% . Are you receiving rent assistance with your pension ? You would be eligible . I was in private rental back in 2009 and going to public housing made little difference to my rent because I lost rent assistance . I suggest a call to centrelink .
MITZY
6th Mar 2013
3:15pm
Joan - saving $1,000 per month i.e. $12,000 per annum for how many years? Holidays, and now a European dream trip. Where have you got all this money stashed? I'd be careful making such a statement CentreLink could be on your watch. If you and your partner are receiving full married/partnered pensions from 20th March 2013 you will receive $2,437.60 per month less 10% for God = $243.76 less the $1,000 savings leaves $1,193.84 per fortnight. Cut this $1,193.84 in half and you both receive $596.92 per week to distribute for all of your food, petrol, utilities, insurances, rates, clothing, chemist, and we haven't mentioned if you are paying health insurance, need glasses, go to doctors/specialists, etc. etc. You are a couple of miracle workers!
Penqueen1949
6th Mar 2013
6:01pm
Geomac, I am not going to waste money ringing Centrelink as I receive full rent assistance as well as full pension. The cost of private rental is very expensive. Once my rent is paid my bank balance takes a real nosedive. Public housing is subsidised by state governments unlike private rental so there is a big difference between the rent payments.... I have lived in both in my life so I know the difference.
geomac
6th Mar 2013
9:29pm
The maximum rent assistance available is $121 a fortnight for a single , no kids . I live in an older persons unit , over 55 to be accepted , public housing . I pay full rent ie market value as I declared my savings or didn,t hide them . Enough for funeral and a couple of grand to my three sisters so not substantial amount . Contented to live here as no more ratbag neighbours to contend with that I encountered in private accommodation . Its a nightmare getting anyone to act on tenants breaking council and state laws .
student
15th Apr 2013
4:08pm
Joan, what a lovely post!! There may be a typo ($100 not $1000), but it is still a positive and cheerful post. YES it is possible to save money but I think a lot depends on our differing circumstances. Still it was so nice to read your post :) Thank you.
Nikolai
6th Mar 2013
12:31pm
I would like to know how someone can save $1,0000 a month, like a lot of others, I don't smoke, I don't go out to the cinema or to eat and struggle to manage, also I have to laugh at the number of people complaining about the rent of their housing commission homes increasing, they should be so lucky, they need to try renting in the private sector where rents increase by $10, $20 or even $30 a week.
geomac
6th Mar 2013
12:40pm
I bank but I think that 1000 is a typo and should be 100 . Nikolai the difference between private rental and public housing is minute because of rental assistance payments . Your comment about rent increases needs some clarification as surely any rent increase would come after the expiry of a six month or yearly lease agreement . The point I,m trying to make is that a landlord can,t put the rent up 20 bucks mid lease .
Penqueen1949
12th Mar 2013
7:24pm
Geomac, if a lease is for 12 months and there is a special provision included within the lease then yes the landlord can increase the rent mid lease with the lawful time allowed given.
Nikolai
6th Mar 2013
12:34pm
A further comment, in last Saturday's Age it stated that single pensioners were to get an increase of $38.50 a fortnight and couples $54, they also stated that from 20 March singles would get $13.50 and couples $20.40 a fortnight for carbon tax compensation, would be nice if the facts were correct.
Penqueen1949
12th Mar 2013
7:28pm
We wish eh.....
Waytoopoortobeme
6th Mar 2013
2:21pm
AH HA The old giveth with the left hand but taketh with the right trick!
B4 they even put up the pensions, we've already been forced to exist by shelling out more for everything because of this damn carbon tax anyway. We will just be playing catchup.
qbeebill
6th Mar 2013
2:28pm
That is why all of us should contact our Fed MP's and tell them that ios is not good enough, and that the minimum increase for pensioners shoul be at lease be the Average Minium Adult Wadge.. After all we all fahe paid our taxes most of our working life .. As one Fed MP admits she could not live on the Pension if she tried.. Lets all MP's admit it if they had only the pension to live on they aslo could not blive on it....Bill
geomac
6th Mar 2013
2:39pm
Yes bill we have paid taxes but we don,t pay unemployment insurance or pension payments on top of those taxes , separate . Our kids went to schools , our roads were paved , our defence forces maintained , Medicare and hospitals funded . All this while we were paying taxes and now we don,t except GST that is others pay those same taxes . A bit of perspective please .
qbeebill
10th Mar 2013
2:28pm
Geomac...We all still pay GST..on all goods ,services and food and clothing we buy .. ????????
geomac
11th Mar 2013
8:36pm
Yes we do which is why I said now we don,t except GST . We don,t pay taxes like when working but we do pay GST . Maybe my wording was not clear enough .
BigVal
6th Mar 2013
4:40pm
Just a thought but it seems these day everyone has forgotten we paid in for our age pension with our income tax at the rate of 7.5% and that the governments of the day and both Labor and Liberals seem to have agreed to forget this ever took place seemingly.

An Ex Treasury man told me the tale years back and now and then see a letter to the Ed saying so.

So get annoyed by idiots who facetiously say younger ones are paying for our pension.

John Howard almost acknowledge it, then later retracted it by calling the pension a safety net - but he did say at the time, "I am giving the same concessions to the SFR as to those on the age pension because they dont draw on it"
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Searches reveal the levy has never been repealed. But also found this the other day and suggest you read it and then see if you can find out the truth. Makes sense to me that pensions were funded by a levy as this is the favourite tool of governments. BTW if you do read this print out a copy as once we all start talking maybe it will disappear as items do.
Like the UN's population forecast that Australia would have a white minority by 2040 along with London being black by 2010 which arrived one year earlier and other predictions.

http://www.sosnews.org/newsfront/?p=262

Interesting too that Gough made over 70's pensions not means tested and then it got reversed.
geomac
6th Mar 2013
5:00pm
Hi Val Didn,t spot 2040 bit but noticed the Eureka flag waving , looks good .
I can,t seem to find anything on UN 204o white minority report and into 4th page on google .
I take it that non whites would be Indians , Chinese well all Asians to make it short . Africans , nth and sth . What about Moaris and Islanders including PNG ? Of course there is also the original inhabitants who were once the majority , in fact just them , various nations/tribes .
PRETTY BIRD
12th Mar 2013
9:16am
there is NO way the tax we paid whilst working would go near paying for what we are given these days, our pensions, our subsidies etc , our medications alone cost a fortune and pensioners are on so many expensive medications keeping them alive into their 80s and 90s.
BigVal
6th Mar 2013
4:47pm
Forgot to add too most people will acknowledge they heard from government over the years don't worry just pay your income taxes and your pension will be there for you.

And they started off the pension in 1909 like in the UK where they still keep a pension fund with their levy like ours started out.

So would they have just forgotten it?
mel
6th Mar 2013
5:26pm
I am a widower and i find that the utility bills rates/insurance etc are practically the same as when my partner was still with me, however we at least get a pension something to be grateful for even though with we could all do with at least $70 more a fortnight mel
Young Simmo
6th Mar 2013
6:39pm
After reading all these comments regarding % of pension going to rent, I feel a whole lot better. My wife and I get a long really well, and if we don't have any special projects on the go, can some times put $200-$300 away for some thing special. Like a trip to Perth (We are 1000 Kms away), new Vacuum or new Kettle etc. Our accommodation is not quite the normal. We have an extremely comfortable On-site caravan with a with a 10 metre X 3 metre solid annex. Of that there is a 3m X 3m Bathroom com toilet and a 6 M X 3m Lounge dining room. In that we have our 2 Recliner Rockers, dinning suit. computer desk 3 book cases and 42 inch TV on the wall. Yep we have been very happy chappies since 2,000. Our current rent is $210 plus power per fortnight.That is about 17% of our pension. I only went into detail in case some readers looking down the barrel of retirement, might like to plan some thing similar. Power runs around $35 - $40 per fortnight
Young Simmo
6th Mar 2013
7:20pm
I should have added, because I don't have to mow the lawn I can spend 10 hrs a day sitting at my computer instead of 9 hrs.
catsahoy
6th Mar 2013
8:54pm
i applaude these people who say they can save from the pension, someone wrote a saving of $1000 a month, i honestly dont know how you do it, how to save anything, but $1000 A MONTH.please send us all your food recipies and tell us how you save on utillity bills and any other hints you have to be able to save like that, im sure we would all welcome any hints you can give, we neither drink or smoke or gamble, the only time we eat out is when we gather with the children and their better halfs for someones birthday or anniversiary and they pay for our meal or we couldnt afford to eat out,. we live in public housing so have reduced rent, but its not the rent thats the killer, as a couple we get less each than a single,the problem with this is, we need seperate clothes, shoes, underwhere, we use extra electricity as we have seperate bedrooms, due to illness, we use extra water as our days of showering together are well and truly gone, .while im glad for what i get, i really feel we need more to LIVE. not EXIST.our chemist bill alone is app, $50 a month each, i know we get subsidised medicines, but one tablet i take cost me $65 as it is not subsidised.these pollies have admitted they couldnt live on it, but we are expected to survive and say nothing, got me baffled,
PRETTY BIRD
12th Mar 2013
9:08am
I think if $1000 a month is being saved, the pensioner is probably living with relatives who pay the power rates etc or in a caravan in a relatives backyard maybe, just a thought
catsahoy
6th Mar 2013
8:54pm
i applaude these people who say they can save from the pension, someone wrote a saving of $1000 a month, i honestly dont know how you do it, how to save anything, but $1000 A MONTH.please send us all your food recipies and tell us how you save on utillity bills and any other hints you have to be able to save like that, im sure we would all welcome any hints you can give, we neither drink or smoke or gamble, the only time we eat out is when we gather with the children and their better halfs for someones birthday or anniversiary and they pay for our meal or we couldnt afford to eat out,. we live in public housing so have reduced rent, but its not the rent thats the killer, as a couple we get less each than a single,the problem with this is, we need seperate clothes, shoes, underwhere, we use extra electricity as we have seperate bedrooms, due to illness, we use extra water as our days of showering together are well and truly gone, .while im glad for what i get, i really feel we need more to LIVE. not EXIST.our chemist bill alone is app, $50 a month each, i know we get subsidised medicines, but one tablet i take cost me $65 as it is not subsidised.these pollies have admitted they couldnt live on it, but we are expected to survive and say nothing, got me baffled,
geomac
6th Mar 2013
9:37pm
That 1000 bucks a month has to be a typo , not possible to bank that much . You state your case clearly and makes me glad that my meds are covered by PBS . I pay 11.90 but it would be 100 odd bucks without PBS . The trouble I see is that the pension , for the most part , is broad based to cover basics . It would be hard to have various exemptions covering various situations for pensioners , a management nightmare .
widdy
7th Mar 2013
6:13pm
Before any one passes comments on pensions, do some homework as to what the pensions were like under the liberal government, I remember there were no luxuries and definitely no Bali holidays. Don't expect to get more if they get back in. Our clean energy assistance is coming from the carbon taxes, the liberals have already said they will stop it and pay back the mining companies the money they have already paid. SO WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE THINK THE PAY BACK MONEY WILL BE COMING FROM. IT WILL BE A CLASSIC CASE OF TAKE FROM THE POOR TO GIVE TO THE RICH, and the Libs won't give a hoot how poor you are. My advice, stop whinging about a bloody good pension and save for a rainy day. Which, thanks to this Labour gov all Australians can do.
widdy
7th Mar 2013
6:23pm
Can't believe what I am reading from some of you pensioners. One does not pay tax on just a pension income. If you pay tax then you have money from other sources so are better of then the flat penisoner. I am a flat pensioner paying a big private rental and I have never had it so good, not even when I worked full time in a gov job. Been to england, had a holiday up the eastern sea board, all in the last 4 years. Labour years I might add. but the one thing I have learnt after 41 years in this country, aussies haven't a clue which side their bread is buttered, pensioners or otherwise.
Hasbeen
7th Mar 2013
10:46pm
Good on you widdy, I'm with you. No overseas holiday for me, I'd rather go for a ride in my convertible, if there's a bit of spare cash. I bought the car, a new ride on mower, air conditioner, & a few other things before I retired. I look at them as my hump, to keep me going. The only mistake was the aircon. It is just too costly to run, so I sit in the shade, or wear an extra track suit.

I worked out I needed $385 minimum a fortnight to pay all the fixed costs, rates, insurances, power, car & medication. To be sure it's there when needed, I top up my wallet to $300 each fortnight. If I run out of this I stop spending, however it usually only takes a couple of hundred so the account slowly builds.

As long as I don't go silly I can have a comfortable life in retirement. Yes I went without quite a few things in my middle years to be debt free in retirement, & it was worth it.

Good on you Young Simmo, very sensible, & you avoid my only real complaint. I find fixing a fence, broken by the kangaroos a bit of a strain these days, & reckon the greenies who want them around the place, should have to fix the fences they break.
chronicles52
7th Mar 2013
10:51pm
Incredulous! Suggesting the government should pay more for your pension because the world's economic downturn has upset your living standards!!! Are you homeless? Do you go to bed hungry? Ask those in other countries that are and do. Be grateful for what you have. Gimme Gimme Gimme is all I ever hear, read and see from you people. And to complain that ministry will take most of your increase? You have a cheap place to live. What did you do in all the years you "Worked" that you have to rent a ministry place? Then you complain? Consider yourself lucky. You reap what you sow. Simple as that.
Young Simmo
7th Mar 2013
11:38pm
Julian Dart, boy you sound like a real smart a*se, I feel very sorry for your other half if you have one. Thinking about it, EERRRRR no, I will stop there as the moderator might have night mares if I say what is really on my mind.
chronicles52
8th Mar 2013
12:21am
Young Simmo. No need to feel sorry for my other half. I fail to see what my comments do to affect her thinking. You succeded in saying nothing in as many words. Oh and nighmares is one word!
Young Simmo
8th Mar 2013
12:28am
Julian Dart, once again you have messed it up, I feel sorry for all people that are committed to living with EGOTISTS. Maybe I missed the fact that you inherited $ millions and have trouble relating to real people. These comments sites are good fun Ahe.
chronicles52
8th Mar 2013
12:40am
Amazing. Young Simmo saves the world again with the enviable insight you have on people simply from what they write. How I wish I had that talent. Assuming my finances is another talent I wish I had. And FYI, I never inherited anything, my wife loves me, my kids adore me, and I own my own house. Ministry was NEVER an option. I suggest you don't take on a word war with me. I know who will win. Don't make it personal.
Young Simmo
10th Mar 2013
2:12pm
chronicles52, You said " How I wish I had that talent ". Maybe if you said " I wish I had some talent", you might be a little bit believable.
Radish
9th Mar 2013
7:26am
scenaria younger days - most of office going out to long boozy lunches one a fortnight, buying latest clothes, drinking, smoking. A few brought their own lunches, went for the ocasional lunch, drank socially only, did not smoke, saved a portion of salary and paid into super when it became available and got mortage scrimped and saved to put kids through good education. Retirement came, many not owning own homes, reliant on public housing, no savings to speak of have to go on pension. Person who is not reliant on government is constantly told "gee you're lucky"...really!!
* Abby
9th Mar 2013
10:04am
Those people that did the right thing of providing for their old age are now being penalised for it.
Becker
10th Mar 2013
1:23pm
Interesting. It compels me to register and make a comment.

Compared to unemployed people (why do we insist on dehumanising them by referring to them as 'the unemployed'?), we are doing well. We are also doing well because of the fight we have had to get recognition that Seniors were/are doing it tough. We are a popular cause now! 'Be kind to Seniors' seems to be used to ensure 'political cred'.
I manage very well. Here's why I post this: some Seniors don't manage very well; some because they have overheads; some because they don't know how to budget..yes! even at our age. What it is not,- is a crime; a fault. What is happening today is that everyone blames one group or another. It's the: single parents/the refugees/the selfish 'me' generation/ the dreaded......'housos' arrrrggghhh!!! And of course we get blamed particularly by the 'me' generation who see us as an absolute burden on them. The poor wee souls..And we blame each other! 'If I can manage on it; so can you/if I own my house; so should you'. The two major disengenuous, self serving and consummately greedy Parties must really chuckle as they use their Olympic accredited swimming pool; and enjoy heavily subsidized meals in their Hyatt catered silver service restaurants. As has already been pointed out here; Australia might be a large land mass; but it is a small country. Au politicians are the highest paid of any Western democracy on the planet! The PM is the third highest paid of all countries (barring dictatorships). The third highest!! THAT is obscene. And THAT is where the problem lies. If any system fails; look to its Line Management. Do I 'blame the Government for everything'? Emphatically YES! They are obscenely paid/they work in a Palace/they spend their time stabbing each other in the back/NEITHER major gives one damn for the ordinary person other than for their vote and taxes. The fondness some people have for bringing up 'the starving in Africa' etc,(I mean no offence) is an absurd rationale. This is not a 3W country; it is 1W country. It is NOT democracy to be forced to vote; and have that vote directed to ensure these greedy nonentities hold power -one or other. It is that supreme complacency that has ensured they are not accountable, and their nastiness/pettiness/and incompetence continues and thrives.
We have experience of life. Surely we know better that to blame each other?
ceebee
10th Mar 2013
1:32pm
Very very well said.
geomac
12th Mar 2013
12:45am
It is NOT democracy to be forced to vote;
You are not forced to vote but are fined if you don,t . I think its over 75s who can opt out . We here about how people fought for our freedoms and the right to vote . In my opinion its not just a right its a responsibility to cast your vote . Its not an onerous task , infrequent and postal voting is available for those who require it . Thats the only part of your post I want to respond to ceebee , Said my piece earlier .
Young Simmo
12th Mar 2013
12:51am
geomac, When I voted yesterday down at the local school, I noticed a couple of people walking out with their voting papers in their hands. What nut cases, they only had to put their blank voting sheets in the box.
Radish
10th Mar 2013
7:05pm
Everyone's circumstances are different and I certainly believe those who have to live totally on the pension, those who get a part pension, and also those who get no pension should not be derided in any way shape or form.

I know of many, many migrants who came here in the 50's. Arrived with a small suitcase, lived in very poor conditions in the heat and flies. These people worked very long hours, 7 days a week and now are in a very good financial position and all I have to say is "good on you" you deserve everything you have worked for. In America people are praised for "making it" sadly in this country it is usually the opposite. The eye of envy seems to come out with many aussies. I just dont understand why?
Janall
11th Mar 2013
12:37pm
I agree Radish. My wife and I have worked bloody hard over the past 45 years, doing night shift for 35 years and 7 days a week for the past 10 years so that we can have a comfortable retirement. And yes, we have had comments from some people saying that we are lucky! Hard work doesn't bring luck!
Lewi
11th Mar 2013
5:42pm
I agree with most of the above i am 74 an live on old age pension only we need a increase now of $ 90 at least and by the way Julia was installed bij the unions because mr Rudd was nog enough union minded likes of greg combe and his mates i cand stand them and hope they never get P M or the like same as our minister for the elders another one off those 2 faced wankers sorry to say but we need a big shake up in this country i dont know who or what but any suggestions welcome
Becker
12th Mar 2013
11:24am
Responding to Geomac. (I have yet to come to grips with this system).

As a retired lawyer (a latter career), I would point out that one is compelled only to 'be counted'; to have your name ticked off the register of voters. What you do after that is up to you, and only some are fined; in fact very few.

My first career was military; I am third generation military. Democracy is freedom of expression (within obvious confines); it is not democracy to force people to vote, and further it is not democracy to structure a system that forces a vote to the two major's. It is disgraceful that citizens of any democratic country are forced to vote; and as an expression of democracy are completely unable to send a clear message to the Laborals that they do not want either in power.

If we were able to ensure a result that both majors achieved a trickle of support, and that a REAL Coalition (with all its inherent problems!) were now to Govern,-what do you think that would do to the two majors?
Their smug complacency would be utterly demolished.

There is nothing democratic about the current system, rather, it feeds and encourages the lamentable political state we have gotten into.
Laborals don't even hide their disregard for the ordinary voter; they spend all their time stabbing each other in the back and digging up what filth they can on each other.

They do it to ensure leadership; and to ensure Government/power.

They are a bloody disgrace, and I do not see it as democratic to be forced to give them my vote.
geomac
12th Mar 2013
5:13pm
Becker
Under the avatar of a person you will see reply , click that if you wish to respond to comments in that post otherwise reply as you have done here . Either way it get posted just that posting under/in the post you want to respond to shows its relevance .
On the vote although you raise some good points I disagree on the general argument that compulsory voting is undemocratic . I stand by my statement thats its a responsibility . Change the system that you complain about , no argument from me . Leave voting to the committed , the nutters ,the well organised minority groups and you get an even more skewed politician and a screwed population . As I said whats onerous about casting your vote for who represents your electorate . Plenty seem eager to cast votes for some singer or dancer on tv and no fine involved there . You want similar types of a different eagerness voting for you ?
Becker
12th Mar 2013
6:39pm
I think I've got it!

We have to disagree on this one. Compulsory voting is forced voting and 'forcing' is simply not democratic.
Geomac; responsibility: state of being responsible. Responsible: having control and authority/reporting or accountable/sensible and dependable/involving responsibility.

Dependable would be right! Nothing else is. As for leaving voting to the committed (as they should be) etc., we have no different currently!

Here we all are 'democratically' being forced to vote, and for who exactly? We are forced to vote for a candidate who has the backing of this or that faction. Those factions first spill a little internal blood, and then push the successful puppet at the public.

We have no 'choice'. Literally no choice.

As for those bozo's who vote for these ludicrous revenue shows, to be frank they make a nice matching pair! There is nothing about this system that is fair and democratic, it is quite absurd and it has been structured to benefit two Parties only-and we see the result of it everyday.

Over to you!
geomac
12th Mar 2013
7:20pm
Well it appears we are unable to agree on the question of compulsory voting . Other than what I already stated I have nothing to add . Like my mother used to say use it or lose , she suffered from arthritis .
student
15th Apr 2013
3:35pm
Becker, I have only read part of your post and I do disagree with your view of compulsory voting. Voting is a right that a lot of countries do not have. Being an ex-solicitor you should have studied at lease two units of Philosophy, one being to do with the origins of democracy (2010 Ancient Western Cultures: Periclean Athens). Voting was only given to adult, male Greeks with both parents Greek. The voters had to do a session of 'leading' whereby they made rules and laws for the community. The tribes had a roster for democratic rule. Today's population is far greater than in those days and democracy has evolved with time and growth. I take voting seriously for if I don't vote I am giving the responsibility of 'me' to another person (a stranger). Is that fair of me?? Geomac, your statement from your mother is right... use it or lose it. Do you want to live in under a dictator?? If not, then vote! Then again, democracy lends itself to lead onto dictatorship!!!

Also, democracy is not about being fair :) It's about those that qualify being able to have a say in their life. I agree democracy is nothing like its invention, but it's better than what else is available.... at the moment.
scrooge
12th Mar 2013
3:52pm
hi, Lewi,From next mqnday we the pensioners will see everything go up astromically before the next rise in 6 months its a roller coaster ride but only up and up and up.Rates, electricity,water,Food, transport,petrol. Remember back when Kevin was P. M did he not raise all pensions. but wait for smiling Tony to claw back some of our increase.Yes pensioners beware.The amount suggested would be nice but do you believe in fairies. I certainly dont.
Billy
12th Mar 2013
4:31pm
It won't be much longer when the single rate of pension is double that of a married couple's, who was the clever bastard that figured out this arrangement - something like $200 dollars per fortnight difference. Pensioners living in government housing each, repeat each, pay 25% of their income in rent - couples are not better off - far from it. Get it sorted out fairly and quickly. Do any bright sparks in government ever read these articles?
Becker
12th Mar 2013
5:35pm
Of course not; they can't read.

That is just dreadful about the 'houso's'. They should be ashamed of themselves....
geomac
12th Mar 2013
8:26pm
Billy
I,m on single pension so unfamiliar on married couples system . To pay 25% each I assume each pensioner is being paid separately rather than one payment and they sort out the split between themselves . So in effect Billy collectively or separately they are still paying 25% of pension income , the same as a single pensioner . Whats your point ?
particolor
12th Mar 2013
10:44pm
Big Val..Yeah they forgot that !!..
Has anyone told Her to keep it Yet ????..
When I was a Kid, Menzies gave the Old Age Pensioners 6 Pence raise...It made Headlines in the Daily Mirror!!!!!!! ..This Will be in the Comic!!!..YEE HAAAA !!
Billy
13th Mar 2013
2:06pm
geomac 12 Mar 2013 Whats your point?
Point being, do the powers that be, think that couples usage of utilities (gas, electricity and water) food items, medical expenses etc. etc. is going to be the same as a single person living in the same circumstances, I think not. Second point, I'm not having a go at single pensioners, I'm merely asking if some government person can substantiate the rate awarded to couples. Get my drift.
Becker
13th Mar 2013
4:11pm
Responding to Billy.

I know you are addressing Geomac, but this is a discussion forum so I would like to reply.

I cannot agree with you. A meal cooked for two uses the same amount of power as if cooked for one. (This would only vary if cooking for a large volume of people).
A room heated or cooled will cost the same if the room is occupied by more than one person.
The only variance that I can see would be in water usage.

I don't strictly believe that 'two can live as cheaply as one', but I know why that saying came into being.
Perhaps I can turn it the opposite way and suggest that for the single occupier, the same general costs on power usage must be met as for two.
elvee
13th Mar 2013
3:16pm
I am on the single age pension and I am very pleased with the increase in March. I manage quite well on my pension, but it certainly doesn't allow me to save for when I might need dental treatment, or to pay the gap between visiting a specialist doctor. Oh, and I had a holiday last year, the first in 17 years, probably be another 17 years if I last that long.
cutienan
13th Mar 2013
4:59pm
Our increase will be used on paying towards our fortnightly bills, electric rent etc., No drink, smokes, pokies, as someone stated. I was once told we only get what we need ,not what we want, so I guess no use complaining.Any extra is good.
speakup
14th Mar 2013
5:49am
The recent Pension rise will be wiped out as soon as the recent petrol increase has flowed through .The cry will be i have to raise my prices because of the cost of delivery.Every one on this page who is happy with the Pension increase either has a lot of cash stashed away or are just ignorant to what is going on here with this grossly over governed country.
There are thousands of unmarried singles in Australia that have partners but live in separate homes because it is against the law to cohabit ate receiving a single pension.Wake up Government if a married couple received the same as two single Pensioners the housing shortage in Australia would be solved with stroke of the pen and single partners would be able to marry without loss of income.Is our Government blind or just stupid ?
Happy
22nd Mar 2013
1:12pm
Agree!!! Totally
Lewi
15th Mar 2013
11:36am
we get paid our pension on the 1st of april wil be paid on march 26 suppoost to be $ 27 but centrelink wil only pay 17.34 we have no deductions, but because they have to pay us the day before good friday we have to wait 2 weeks and 4 days for the rest very louzy.
Lewi
15th Mar 2013
11:46am
also i think pensioners unite, vote in september for the party that promise the most, and if lying about make them look bad in the eys of the world they soon live uo to their promises.
cliff
22nd Mar 2013
6:21am
Having read some of these posts for and against pension in creases i can not understand those that claim they get enough to live a comfortable life..I pay on the utilities each 2 weeks to make it easy for myself but usually come up short.To do cheap grocery shopping i have to travel 110Kl round trip with petrol about $1.60 L..My groceries are more expensive than in the city and have 2 stores to choose from and despite the TV adds prices keep going up not down.It has been years since i purchased fresh meat, but do get the lesser meat at use by date on special not often the Steak or loin chops my favorite,, so even with a pension increase i will not benefit from as all the UTILITIES increase , health insurance . car insurance ,, house insurance Death insurance they all increase so as per usual the pensioner is left with nothing extra and it is usual for most of us to have less spending power each year after an increase is given..
Happy
22nd Mar 2013
1:09pm
Their is only one way to to keep everyone Happy! The Government needs to Increase the Pension rate and the Supplement/s to the same level as the MINIMUM WAGE that way everyone will be Happy!
Young Simmo
22nd Mar 2013
2:15pm
Like most things their are horses for courses and everybody is different to some degree. Unlike most pensioners my wife and I cruise along quite nicely dew mainly to our circumstances, and I will lay a bit of it out for anyone that is only a few years away from retiring and might want to do something similar. To start with we live in a country town and am only 5 Ks away from town and the shops. We have a very comfortable Onsite Caravan with a 30ft by 10ft solid annex. That is made up with a 10 ft X 10Ft Shower, bathroom and laundry all comfortably laid out. We have our own septic system and pump so no tramping over to the showers when it is raining. In our 20Ft by 10Ft Lounge slash dinging room slash Computer room we have a 42 inch wall mounted TV. Outside we have a really comfy 20 Ft X 10 Ft patio, with outdoor setting and 4 burner BBQ. I have 10 X 10 work shed full of all my never ever throw away tools and vital gardening equipment. Then at the back another 6 X 6 Garden shed. We have been here since Feb 1999 and will have to be carried out. Our site fees are $105, plus power per week. That usually totals about $125 per week. The law says that our rent can not increase by more than 10% per year. Thanks to our wonderful landlords (Park Owners) our rent has increased 5% in the last 2 years. So if you are getting close to retiring and things are going to be tight some thing like our situation could be worth considering. Oh yes, on a bad fortnight we might only put $100 away, on a good fortnight we might put a $300 in the cookie barrel. If new carpet or fridge pops up we leave our savings and borrow a grand from Centrelink interest free over 6 months. OK, I have really poured it all out here, but I am only illustrating one way it can be done.
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
catsahoy
12th Apr 2013
9:08pm
i understood the pension increase was to start the first pay after march 20th, two pays have come and gone and we [married couple, both 74] and have not recieved one extra cent, had a letter from centerlink saying we would get an extra
10.50c per pay for utilities, so far we have recieved nothing,so dont know when it is supposed to come in, would come in handy, the price of meat [as if it wasnt high enough] has skyrocketed, along with fruit and vegies, im not screaming out for more, but if the cost of living is going up daily then we need more to keep up, only makes sense,
Young Simmo
12th Apr 2013
10:38pm
Hello catsahoy, WOW I think I hear you, Ha, Ha, Ha. We got supposedly half 3 weeks ago and the full increase this Wednesday just past. We thought we were getting $54.00 but got $51.90. Because we live in a relatively small town, and I personally know the boss Lady at Centrelink, I don't want to make too much noise about $2.10. It will be interesting to hear how other pensioners fared. I agree, the cost of meat could make me a vegetarian at 73 years, a bit late to start changing directions.
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
catsahoy
13th Apr 2013
8:31pm
hi young simmo, we still have recieved nothing, and a friend on the single pension has recieved nothing either, will have to ring centerlink on monday and find out whats happening, there goes another day,lol. last time i rang them i called at 5 to 9. spoke to someone at quarter past 10, oh well ,can listen to a bit of music while i wait, will let you know what they say, just paid a vet bill for
82 dollars .so a little would come in handy, cheers simmo,
student
15th Apr 2013
3:45pm
catsahoy, sorry to hear about your cat. A friend of mine spent over (yes, OVER) $38,000-00) on his cat in four years and the vet finally advised him to just let nature take it's course. His cat was 25 years old!! However, I have a toy poodle and I have pet insurance :) RSPCA pet insurance. It's not cheap but neither are vet bills. So far it has cost me $1,050-00 for insurance and two visits to the vet ( over $300-00) ... thank goodness for insurance. Oh, and I pay mine monthly too :) Good luck.
particolor
13th Apr 2013
8:42pm
82 Bucks would only get You a Band Aid at the Vets Here!!! DOH !!!..
I got around about 30 something Bucks here in Inverell if that news is any good to You??!..
Good Luck!! Parti...
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
catsahoy
14th Apr 2013
9:18pm
hi particolor. the 82 dollars was just for a needle, had to get my beautiful cat put to sleep, had a bowel cancer, yes vets are expensive, but what isnt, according to what i have read ,singles should have got $35,50,each, and marrieds $27 each, plus $10,50 for clean energy, will ring centerlink and see what they say,my only complaint is, if you think you are getting something, you make plans for that extra, i do anyway, i had to borrow money to get a heart test done that wasnt covered for pensioners, the hospital wanted the money paid up front, i just thought with this extra i would get the loan paid quicker, it will be eaten up with the increase in food prices anyway, thanks for your comments anyway particolor, hope you dont blow that 30 bucks all at once,lol
particolor
14th Apr 2013
10:11pm
Catsahoy..No I wasnt complaining at all !! I'm happy for anything I get !! I'm sorry about Your situation and Will always treasure My own Good Health !! Well so far anyhow !!..Doing without was something you noticed over an extended period once,but now I notice it Fortnightly ?? Am I alone in this? I wonder?.. I hope You recover Quickly from what Ails You!! Good Luck!!..Parti.. and PS..I heard You the First Time!!
tia-maria
15th Apr 2013
2:03pm
particolor,
May come when you may understand and be more kindly towards others who have chronice ill health ..................not every one been as lucky as you?......... BUT I did notice the healthier you are your less understanding towards other pensioners suffering with Cancer and other chronic medical condition......
student
15th Apr 2013
3:54pm
tia-maria, ....................................whinge, whinge, whinge. Everyone is better off than you and no one is as sick as you. If you really want something to whinge about, try living where people do not get a pension, or better still, try living in England for 12 months!! And before you tell me how lucky I am , I know it. AND I do have a painful. terminal illness, so you are not alone. I live in Australia, I have food and water and a roof over my head. I am blessed.
tia-maria
16th Apr 2013
12:17am
Hello Student,
were are you coming from I am definately not whingeing not like you?????? I have never said I was sicker than anyone else..What I am saying (that people like yourself need to read more careful) and ask yourselves to more considerate towards others retired pensioners who realy have hugh medical issues..........so wake up.....Are you a pommie???? if so that would understand your attitude??I never been to England nore intending going.what other countries do for their retired pensioners is their business not mine OK...........cant understand your attitude are you religious?? that also would explain a lot to me.
tia-maria
15th Apr 2013
2:04pm
Quite a few pensioners I know were shocked in what they received as we have been dittle by our damm politicians.
particolor
15th Apr 2013
2:15pm
Tia Maria....What The?? The Blog is not about Health !! and I dont SEE Anything there about Me not being sympathetic to others about their Health!! Go and have a Cuppa Coffee and a Good Nap!!! ..You'll feel Better then!!.. Good bye every one I'm not Comming back here!!..
I might get Nagged!!!
tia-maria
16th Apr 2013
12:29am
particolor,
No the its not about the health, but its regarding the pensioner pay rise????( I never said to you your not sympathetic to others regarging ill health???
And your attitude towards me is uncall for my dear, so just maybe you need to have a cuppa and a break away from the forum and you wont be so stress out so much.....just lighten up as many of the comments talk about rubbish/and stray away from the subject at hand.
Young Simmo
15th Apr 2013
2:30pm
catsahoy, Yes those medical bills can hurt. After my Triple Bypass I was told to have a Echo ECG every year. I did that for the first 7 tears and everything was always A, OK. So I skipped year and still A, OK. I have just had my last one, total cost for 12 to 15 minutes of computer punching was $296.00. Medicare $196.00 and me $100.00. I have decided that is the last time because, I reckon at 73 I will be dead somewhere in the next 24 Hrs to 24 years and I have promised everybody I will not complain or say a word after that big event. That should be a fairly easy commitment to live up to. Did I say live up to? !!!!!!!
Time Flies
29th Jul 2013
2:16am
Oh young simmo. Still making this page your personal forum. I have read some of your comments along with catsahoy. Nice to know you both didn't have to go to a dating site to find each other. Isn't it a wonderful feeling to know all the answers and berate anyone who disagrees. I envy you both. By the way Mr. catsahoy, I would think you might have noticed how many times you repeated your entries. Makes me wonder where your head was or is!!
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:24pm
hi again young simmo, sorry to hear of your ill health, like you, i have now has 2 of these tests, and have decided no more, as they have been ok, like you im 73, so if i,or should say when, i go, just hope its quick, at least ill go not owing anyone, i have still not heard when this rise is comong and after hanging onto the phone for 2 hours today, and not getting through, ill just wait, hope you are feeling ok at the moment, PARTICOLOR,sorry my comment repeated itself, apparently if you hold the key down to long, this happens, i wasnt trying to repeat myself to you, you are lucky if you have good health, i ,and many like me pay huge chemist bills, beside doctors, not all medications are covered, hope you are never put in this position, if only a cuppa coffee would make it go away,thanks for your comments val and simmo, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:39pm
student, thanks for your comments, i can understand your friend paying that ammount for there cat, my daughter spent over 6,ooo,ooo. on her dog, unfortunatly, money was not the case with my chloe, the cancer was inoperable,oops, i meant 6 thousand on her dog, hope the cat is ok now, im in two minds about another cat, at my age ill probably go before the cay, and id hate to think id go and it would be left without care, if i do, i would definetly get the insurence, best way to go,thanks for your helpful words, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:39pm
student, thanks for your comments, i can understand your friend paying that ammount for there cat, my daughter spent over 6,ooo,ooo. on her dog, unfortunatly, money was not the case with my chloe, the cancer was inoperable,oops, i meant 6 thousand on her dog, hope the cat is ok now, im in two minds about another cat, at my age ill probably go before the cay, and id hate to think id go and it would be left without care, if i do, i would definetly get the insurence, best way to go,thanks for your helpful words, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:39pm
student, thanks for your comments, i can understand your friend paying that ammount for there cat, my daughter spent over 6,ooo,ooo. on her dog, unfortunatly, money was not the case with my chloe, the cancer was inoperable,oops, i meant 6 thousand on her dog, hope the cat is ok now, im in two minds about another cat, at my age ill probably go before the cay, and id hate to think id go and it would be left without care, if i do, i would definetly get the insurence, best way to go,thanks for your helpful words, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:39pm
student, thanks for your comments, i can understand your friend paying that ammount for there cat, my daughter spent over 6,ooo,ooo. on her dog, unfortunatly, money was not the case with my chloe, the cancer was inoperable,oops, i meant 6 thousand on her dog, hope the cat is ok now, im in two minds about another cat, at my age ill probably go before the cay, and id hate to think id go and it would be left without care, if i do, i would definetly get the insurence, best way to go,thanks for your helpful words, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:39pm
student, thanks for your comments, i can understand your friend paying that ammount for there cat, my daughter spent over 6,ooo,ooo. on her dog, unfortunatly, money was not the case with my chloe, the cancer was inoperable,oops, i meant 6 thousand on her dog, hope the cat is ok now, im in two minds about another cat, at my age ill probably go before the cay, and id hate to think id go and it would be left without care, if i do, i would definetly get the insurence, best way to go,thanks for your helpful words, take care,
catsahoy
15th Apr 2013
7:39pm
student, thanks for your comments, i can understand your friend paying that ammount for there cat, my daughter spent over 6,ooo,ooo. on her dog, unfortunatly, money was not the case with my chloe, the cancer was inoperable,oops, i meant 6 thousand on her dog, hope the cat is ok now, im in two minds about another cat, at my age ill probably go before the cay, and id hate to think id go and it would be left without care, if i do, i would definetly get the insurence, best way to go,thanks for your helpful words, take care,
Young Simmo
15th Apr 2013
11:05pm
G'day catsahoy, I noticed you dropped a val in at the end of your post, is that to indicated we are familiar? Also I am not ill in fact I am cruising along on my reconditioned engine. I was a wreck prior to my Bypass in Feb 2002, but now life is a breeze. If you answer yes to my first question I will try and get in touch. JS.... You said you hope it is quick, mine will be slow and pleasant, a lawn mower in the garden shed. You know like the old bit of hose on the exhaust pipe. Wow, if the Mods let me get away with that I will have made some progress.
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
catsahoy
16th Apr 2013
11:04pm
hi young simmo, sorry i put the val in, at times a VAL, has answered my queries, i meant to put in tia maria. why, is that VAL, some kind of code,lol,i dont think we are familiar, glad you are well now, i know 2 people who have had the by pass and are doing fantastic,dont know if i would be brave enough for the hose, my brother in law went that way, you would know it was so final, the thought of death terrifys me, i wont to hang on as long as i can,, and i hope its a long time before you contemplate that. take care,
Young Simmo
16th Apr 2013
11:33pm
Thanks for the reply catsahoy, I had to ask the question as Val is my other half, now you have cleared that up. I was just thinking maybe I knew you 50 or so years ago, He, He.
Yes getting back to the (CABG X 3) which is the Drs lingo I am as happy as pie. Like a lot of people I smoked for 45 years and probably wrecked my body, and how I gave up is another story. However to sum it up, I have said before, My father died of a heart attack on his 43rd birthday in 1953. I was lucky enough to have a Triple Bypass in 2002 and now have lived 30 years longer and I put it down to modern Medical Science. Actually I am running on a revamped VEE-8 engine. Everybody around me knows, that if I fall off the perch tonight, I promise I will not complain tomorrow. Isn't the internett a wonderful invention????
For the uninformed CABG X 3 stands for "Cardiac Artery Bypass Graft X 3". That is triple bypass.
catsahoy
17th Apr 2013
11:17pm
hi again young simmo,no unfortunatly i dont think we have met, i spent my teen years in warrnambool, some time in geelong, then married a geelong man, and settled there. we seperated in the 70s, and i got my girls and came back to melb, we settled our differences[sort of] and gpt back together, have been in melbourne since, i hate to admit it but i still smoke, worse thing i can do after a slight stroke,but have tried everything, tablets, patches, hynotism, nothing works,. it is a matter of willpower, but i obviously dont have it, i tend to strees a lot and the smokes help. yes the internet is marvellous, my poor computer is just a desktop, heaven knows how old, in melb. we have a service where if your a pensioner you can get comp. at a cheap price, i got mine just to google things i wanted info. about, but with these kind of sites and facebook i have [met] some great people,NO ,i have not gone on dating sites,ha ha, . but meeting people like yourself with similar problems its good, sorry im not one of vals friends, and so glad to hear your running well with your new motor, medicaln science is marvelous, new developments every day, take care young simmo, by the way, i got my pension,[which started this conversation] got it fixed up yesterday, yeah, might buy a cream cake to have with my coffee,lol
catsahoy
17th Apr 2013
11:17pm
hi again young simmo,no unfortunatly i dont think we have met, i spent my teen years in warrnambool, some time in geelong, then married a geelong man, and settled there. we seperated in the 70s, and i got my girls and came back to melb, we settled our differences[sort of] and gpt back together, have been in melbourne since, i hate to admit it but i still smoke, worse thing i can do after a slight stroke,but have tried everything, tablets, patches, hynotism, nothing works,. it is a matter of willpower, but i obviously dont have it, i tend to strees a lot and the smokes help. yes the internet is marvellous, my poor computer is just a desktop, heaven knows how old, in melb. we have a service where if your a pensioner you can get comp. at a cheap price, i got mine just to google things i wanted info. about, but with these kind of sites and facebook i have [met] some great people,NO ,i have not gone on dating sites,ha ha, . but meeting people like yourself with similar problems its good, sorry im not one of vals friends, and so glad to hear your running well with your new motor, medicaln science is marvelous, new developments every day, take care young simmo, by the way, i got my pension,[which started this conversation] got it fixed up yesterday, yeah, might buy a cream cake to have with my coffee,lol
catsahoy
17th Apr 2013
11:17pm
hi again young simmo,no unfortunatly i dont think we have met, i spent my teen years in warrnambool, some time in geelong, then married a geelong man, and settled there. we seperated in the 70s, and i got my girls and came back to melb, we settled our differences[sort of] and gpt back together, have been in melbourne since, i hate to admit it but i still smoke, worse thing i can do after a slight stroke,but have tried everything, tablets, patches, hynotism, nothing works,. it is a matter of willpower, but i obviously dont have it, i tend to strees a lot and the smokes help. yes the internet is marvellous, my poor computer is just a desktop, heaven knows how old, in melb. we have a service where if your a pensioner you can get comp. at a cheap price, i got mine just to google things i wanted info. about, but with these kind of sites and facebook i have [met] some great people,NO ,i have not gone on dating sites,ha ha, . but meeting people like yourself with similar problems its good, sorry im not one of vals friends, and so glad to hear your running well with your new motor, medicaln science is marvelous, new developments every day, take care young simmo, by the way, i got my pension,[which started this conversation] got it fixed up yesterday, yeah, might buy a cream cake to have with my coffee,lol
catsahoy
17th Apr 2013
11:17pm
hi again young simmo,no unfortunatly i dont think we have met, i spent my teen years in warrnambool, some time in geelong, then married a geelong man, and settled there. we seperated in the 70s, and i got my girls and came back to melb, we settled our differences[sort of] and gpt back together, have been in melbourne since, i hate to admit it but i still smoke, worse thing i can do after a slight stroke,but have tried everything, tablets, patches, hynotism, nothing works,. it is a matter of willpower, but i obviously dont have it, i tend to strees a lot and the smokes help. yes the internet is marvellous, my poor computer is just a desktop, heaven knows how old, in melb. we have a service where if your a pensioner you can get comp. at a cheap price, i got mine just to google things i wanted info. about, but with these kind of sites and facebook i have [met] some great people,NO ,i have not gone on dating sites,ha ha, . but meeting people like yourself with similar problems its good, sorry im not one of vals friends, and so glad to hear your running well with your new motor, medicaln science is marvelous, new developments every day, take care young simmo, by the way, i got my pension,[which started this conversation] got it fixed up yesterday, yeah, might buy a cream cake to have with my coffee,lol
catsahoy
17th Apr 2013
11:17pm
hi again young simmo,no unfortunatly i dont think we have met, i spent my teen years in warrnambool, some time in geelong, then married a geelong man, and settled there. we seperated in the 70s, and i got my girls and came back to melb, we settled our differences[sort of] and gpt back together, have been in melbourne since, i hate to admit it but i still smoke, worse thing i can do after a slight stroke,but have tried everything, tablets, patches, hynotism, nothing works,. it is a matter of willpower, but i obviously dont have it, i tend to strees a lot and the smokes help. yes the internet is marvellous, my poor computer is just a desktop, heaven knows how old, in melb. we have a service where if your a pensioner you can get comp. at a cheap price, i got mine just to google things i wanted info. about, but with these kind of sites and facebook i have [met] some great people,NO ,i have not gone on dating sites,ha ha, . but meeting people like yourself with similar problems its good, sorry im not one of vals friends, and so glad to hear your running well with your new motor, medicaln science is marvelous, new developments every day, take care young simmo, by the way, i got my pension,[which started this conversation] got it fixed up yesterday, yeah, might buy a cream cake to have with my coffee,lol
catsahoy
17th Apr 2013
11:17pm
hi again young simmo,no unfortunatly i dont think we have met, i spent my teen years in warrnambool, some time in geelong, then married a geelong man, and settled there. we seperated in the 70s, and i got my girls and came back to melb, we settled our differences[sort of] and gpt back together, have been in melbourne since, i hate to admit it but i still smoke, worse thing i can do after a slight stroke,but have tried everything, tablets, patches, hynotism, nothing works,. it is a matter of willpower, but i obviously dont have it, i tend to strees a lot and the smokes help. yes the internet is marvellous, my poor computer is just a desktop, heaven knows how old, in melb. we have a service where if your a pensioner you can get comp. at a cheap price, i got mine just to google things i wanted info. about, but with these kind of sites and facebook i have [met] some great people,NO ,i have not gone on dating sites,ha ha, . but meeting people like yourself with similar problems its good, sorry im not one of vals friends, and so glad to hear your running well with your new motor, medicaln science is marvelous, new developments every day, take care young simmo, by the way, i got my pension,[which started this conversation] got it fixed up yesterday, yeah, might buy a cream cake to have with my coffee,lol
Young Simmo
17th Apr 2013
11:53pm
catsahoy, maybe you might have to get you Desktop checked out to stop the multiple postings, He, He.... Yeh I am on a Desktop as well, and have a Happy Lappy as a back up when we go down to Perth. My life has been a bit different, I met My Darling at the Friday night movies at the Fiesta theater In Scarborough WA on 7/5/1954 and we are still together. Yes she is a very forgiving lady, as my 25 years in the Gold Mining caper in Kalgoorlie and Cue and Leonora etc, etc really tested our contract. In those days I went from work to the pub and rocked up at home after 10 to 15 cans every night. She was 13 and still at school, and I was a 14 year old apprentice in 1954. I better stop there as I could easily fill the whole page if i cut loose. Just to cap it off we had 3 sons, and lost our youngest at four and a half years in a drowning accident at Penguin Island, 40 years ago. Boy us 73 year olds can rattle on when we get started.
catsahoy
18th Apr 2013
10:47pm
hi young simmo, yes i suppose we do rattle on, but thats because we have lived life a little and know a bit,. i am originaly from london and came here at 14 yearsm old, have never wanted to go back, love it here, after all these years ,i dont know any different, as i said i married and had 2 daughters, then after 13 years had my son, i now have 7 grandchildren and 5 great grand kids, at the moment my eldest girl is in vietnam on a 14 day trip, she recently divorced so the trip will do her good, its great how the young ones can travel, when we were young you never thought of jummping on a plane and going to god nos where, it just seems the norm now, she goes to bali every second year, has done america, now this, next year she is doing a big trip to england and all over europe, she has no children so can please herself, sorry to hear of your loss with your son, friends of ours lost a daughter at the beach about 42 years ago, tore them apart, i would think it would be the hardest thing to handle, i must go and try to finish this book im on its a trilogy and iv lent the fist two books to a friend and she wants the last one, so id better get to it and let her have it, take care simmo, and hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
18th Apr 2013
10:47pm
hi young simmo, yes i suppose we do rattle on, but thats because we have lived life a little and know a bit,. i am originaly from london and came here at 14 yearsm old, have never wanted to go back, love it here, after all these years ,i dont know any different, as i said i married and had 2 daughters, then after 13 years had my son, i now have 7 grandchildren and 5 great grand kids, at the moment my eldest girl is in vietnam on a 14 day trip, she recently divorced so the trip will do her good, its great how the young ones can travel, when we were young you never thought of jummping on a plane and going to god nos where, it just seems the norm now, she goes to bali every second year, has done america, now this, next year she is doing a big trip to england and all over europe, she has no children so can please herself, sorry to hear of your loss with your son, friends of ours lost a daughter at the beach about 42 years ago, tore them apart, i would think it would be the hardest thing to handle, i must go and try to finish this book im on its a trilogy and iv lent the fist two books to a friend and she wants the last one, so id better get to it and let her have it, take care simmo, and hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
18th Apr 2013
10:47pm
hi young simmo, yes i suppose we do rattle on, but thats because we have lived life a little and know a bit,. i am originaly from london and came here at 14 yearsm old, have never wanted to go back, love it here, after all these years ,i dont know any different, as i said i married and had 2 daughters, then after 13 years had my son, i now have 7 grandchildren and 5 great grand kids, at the moment my eldest girl is in vietnam on a 14 day trip, she recently divorced so the trip will do her good, its great how the young ones can travel, when we were young you never thought of jummping on a plane and going to god nos where, it just seems the norm now, she goes to bali every second year, has done america, now this, next year she is doing a big trip to england and all over europe, she has no children so can please herself, sorry to hear of your loss with your son, friends of ours lost a daughter at the beach about 42 years ago, tore them apart, i would think it would be the hardest thing to handle, i must go and try to finish this book im on its a trilogy and iv lent the fist two books to a friend and she wants the last one, so id better get to it and let her have it, take care simmo, and hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
18th Apr 2013
10:47pm
hi young simmo, yes i suppose we do rattle on, but thats because we have lived life a little and know a bit,. i am originaly from london and came here at 14 yearsm old, have never wanted to go back, love it here, after all these years ,i dont know any different, as i said i married and had 2 daughters, then after 13 years had my son, i now have 7 grandchildren and 5 great grand kids, at the moment my eldest girl is in vietnam on a 14 day trip, she recently divorced so the trip will do her good, its great how the young ones can travel, when we were young you never thought of jummping on a plane and going to god nos where, it just seems the norm now, she goes to bali every second year, has done america, now this, next year she is doing a big trip to england and all over europe, she has no children so can please herself, sorry to hear of your loss with your son, friends of ours lost a daughter at the beach about 42 years ago, tore them apart, i would think it would be the hardest thing to handle, i must go and try to finish this book im on its a trilogy and iv lent the fist two books to a friend and she wants the last one, so id better get to it and let her have it, take care simmo, and hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
18th Apr 2013
10:47pm
hi young simmo, yes i suppose we do rattle on, but thats because we have lived life a little and know a bit,. i am originaly from london and came here at 14 yearsm old, have never wanted to go back, love it here, after all these years ,i dont know any different, as i said i married and had 2 daughters, then after 13 years had my son, i now have 7 grandchildren and 5 great grand kids, at the moment my eldest girl is in vietnam on a 14 day trip, she recently divorced so the trip will do her good, its great how the young ones can travel, when we were young you never thought of jummping on a plane and going to god nos where, it just seems the norm now, she goes to bali every second year, has done america, now this, next year she is doing a big trip to england and all over europe, she has no children so can please herself, sorry to hear of your loss with your son, friends of ours lost a daughter at the beach about 42 years ago, tore them apart, i would think it would be the hardest thing to handle, i must go and try to finish this book im on its a trilogy and iv lent the fist two books to a friend and she wants the last one, so id better get to it and let her have it, take care simmo, and hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
18th Apr 2013
10:47pm
hi young simmo, yes i suppose we do rattle on, but thats because we have lived life a little and know a bit,. i am originaly from london and came here at 14 yearsm old, have never wanted to go back, love it here, after all these years ,i dont know any different, as i said i married and had 2 daughters, then after 13 years had my son, i now have 7 grandchildren and 5 great grand kids, at the moment my eldest girl is in vietnam on a 14 day trip, she recently divorced so the trip will do her good, its great how the young ones can travel, when we were young you never thought of jummping on a plane and going to god nos where, it just seems the norm now, she goes to bali every second year, has done america, now this, next year she is doing a big trip to england and all over europe, she has no children so can please herself, sorry to hear of your loss with your son, friends of ours lost a daughter at the beach about 42 years ago, tore them apart, i would think it would be the hardest thing to handle, i must go and try to finish this book im on its a trilogy and iv lent the fist two books to a friend and she wants the last one, so id better get to it and let her have it, take care simmo, and hope we talk soon,
Young Simmo
18th Apr 2013
10:58pm
Hi catsahoy, I feel we are probably turning this page into a personal communication site and should get back to basics. I also feel we have a lot in common and need to communicate some more. I will go to "contact us, and try and get the moderator to give you my e-mail address". If that doesn't work I might go out on a limb and, EEeeeerrrrrr no I won't.
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:13pm
hi young simmo, got the contact letterand tried to get them my email contact for you , but for some reason my comp, wont let me do that squiggle that has to go in, if you can email me, once an address is in its ok, i can reply, so here goes, ;hope you know what i mean by the squiggle, it is yvonne60suigglelive,com,au. hope this works, yes it does seem like we are taking over the page doesnt it, hope to hear from you soon, take care,
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:13pm
hi young simmo, got the contact letterand tried to get them my email contact for you , but for some reason my comp, wont let me do that squiggle that has to go in, if you can email me, once an address is in its ok, i can reply, so here goes, ;hope you know what i mean by the squiggle, it is yvonne60suigglelive,com,au. hope this works, yes it does seem like we are taking over the page doesnt it, hope to hear from you soon, take care,
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:13pm
hi young simmo, got the contact letterand tried to get them my email contact for you , but for some reason my comp, wont let me do that squiggle that has to go in, if you can email me, once an address is in its ok, i can reply, so here goes, ;hope you know what i mean by the squiggle, it is yvonne60suigglelive,com,au. hope this works, yes it does seem like we are taking over the page doesnt it, hope to hear from you soon, take care,
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:13pm
hi young simmo, got the contact letterand tried to get them my email contact for you , but for some reason my comp, wont let me do that squiggle that has to go in, if you can email me, once an address is in its ok, i can reply, so here goes, ;hope you know what i mean by the squiggle, it is yvonne60suigglelive,com,au. hope this works, yes it does seem like we are taking over the page doesnt it, hope to hear from you soon, take care,
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:13pm
hi young simmo, got the contact letterand tried to get them my email contact for you , but for some reason my comp, wont let me do that squiggle that has to go in, if you can email me, once an address is in its ok, i can reply, so here goes, ;hope you know what i mean by the squiggle, it is yvonne60suigglelive,com,au. hope this works, yes it does seem like we are taking over the page doesnt it, hope to hear from you soon, take care,
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:13pm
hi young simmo, got the contact letterand tried to get them my email contact for you , but for some reason my comp, wont let me do that squiggle that has to go in, if you can email me, once an address is in its ok, i can reply, so here goes, ;hope you know what i mean by the squiggle, it is yvonne60suigglelive,com,au. hope this works, yes it does seem like we are taking over the page doesnt it, hope to hear from you soon, take care,
Young Simmo
19th Apr 2013
10:50pm
OK I substituted ,,,suiggle,,, for @ but that didn't work, so I will try a different tack. I did get an administrator to forward my address to you and he confirmed he had done that.
He is at: Drew Patchell - Digital Operations Manager,
YOURLifeChoices website, magazine and enews
www.yourlifechoices.com.au
I have given him full authority to give you my Address. Boy I am just about ready to post my home address, landline, mobile ph, current photo and a pic of my vegie garden but, alas, I need a few more reds to go that far.
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:21pm
ha ha, was just thinking, if anyone else is following this conversation, they will wonder what the hell they are one, ;[
catsahoy
19th Apr 2013
9:21pm
ha ha, was just thinking, if anyone else is following this conversation, they will wonder what the hell they are one, ;[
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:09pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:09pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:09pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:09pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:09pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:10pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:10pm
have your message young simmo, dont know why the email didnt work, will give it to you again and hope for better luck this time, will go onto the other site and get details, usually once an email comes to me it gets locked in and i can reply, yvonne60sqigglelive.com.au hope you get it this time,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:17pm
ha ha simmo, i hear what your saying, re landline and mobile, vegie garden would be good, lol as a photo, sorry i cant do that as i dont have a printer ,as i said before, i am not very knowledable with comp, just get by with the little i know, just a thought, would an email be easier through facebook? i go on there as i talk to a couple of old friends, but try the email again, should work,talk soon,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:17pm
ha ha simmo, i hear what your saying, re landline and mobile, vegie garden would be good, lol as a photo, sorry i cant do that as i dont have a printer ,as i said before, i am not very knowledable with comp, just get by with the little i know, just a thought, would an email be easier through facebook? i go on there as i talk to a couple of old friends, but try the email again, should work,talk soon,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:17pm
ha ha simmo, i hear what your saying, re landline and mobile, vegie garden would be good, lol as a photo, sorry i cant do that as i dont have a printer ,as i said before, i am not very knowledable with comp, just get by with the little i know, just a thought, would an email be easier through facebook? i go on there as i talk to a couple of old friends, but try the email again, should work,talk soon,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:17pm
ha ha simmo, i hear what your saying, re landline and mobile, vegie garden would be good, lol as a photo, sorry i cant do that as i dont have a printer ,as i said before, i am not very knowledable with comp, just get by with the little i know, just a thought, would an email be easier through facebook? i go on there as i talk to a couple of old friends, but try the email again, should work,talk soon,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:17pm
ha ha simmo, i hear what your saying, re landline and mobile, vegie garden would be good, lol as a photo, sorry i cant do that as i dont have a printer ,as i said before, i am not very knowledable with comp, just get by with the little i know, just a thought, would an email be easier through facebook? i go on there as i talk to a couple of old friends, but try the email again, should work,talk soon,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
7:17pm
ha ha simmo, i hear what your saying, re landline and mobile, vegie garden would be good, lol as a photo, sorry i cant do that as i dont have a printer ,as i said before, i am not very knowledable with comp, just get by with the little i know, just a thought, would an email be easier through facebook? i go on there as i talk to a couple of old friends, but try the email again, should work,talk soon,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
8:38pm
hi simmo, have not got another message from drew, just the original, as i said would facebook work, try that . i am hotmail YVONNE HARVEY, just inbox me if you get it, dont have your last name if your on facebook or yahoo? let me know or may have to think about that mobile,ha ha,
catsahoy
20th Apr 2013
8:38pm
hi simmo, have not got another message from drew, just the original, as i said would facebook work, try that . i am hotmail YVONNE HARVEY, just inbox me if you get it, dont have your last name if your on facebook or yahoo? let me know or may have to think about that mobile,ha ha,
Young Simmo
20th Apr 2013
10:24pm
Hi castsahoy, to start with I am not a happy chappy, Mick Malthouse and his umpires have just ripped off the Wonderful West Coast Eagles. I am waiting for the comments to start so I can ask if anybody can tell me, does Mick pay his umpires an annual salary or a weekly wage. It doesn't really matter as he seems to be able to buy any result he wants. I am an honest West Aussie and don't go out of my way to stir up those infantiles called Victorians, but they ask for it. If the Moderator is a Victorian I am a Dead Duck. Now getting back to the serious stuff, I would really like to touch base and Drew assured me he had forwarded my e-mail address to you. I will tackle that one tomorrow to start a fresh new week. If you think I am not making a lot of friends over in Micks Country, tell me and I will stop being so honest.
Cheers...Simmo.
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:07am
hi simmo, i follow st kilda,so dont really care about other teams,my friend is one eyed maggies i really dont care,i did get drews letter, but i sent him a message, dont know if he got it, did get your email, but not your address or other information you said you gave him, if you cant get my email, and i dont know why you cant, as i said the only other thing i can think of is facebook, , you have that information, let me know if thats not good for you and will try and think of another way,talk soon,cat,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:07am
hi simmo, i follow st kilda,so dont really care about other teams,my friend is one eyed maggies i really dont care,i did get drews letter, but i sent him a message, dont know if he got it, did get your email, but not your address or other information you said you gave him, if you cant get my email, and i dont know why you cant, as i said the only other thing i can think of is facebook, , you have that information, let me know if thats not good for you and will try and think of another way,talk soon,cat,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:07am
hi simmo, i follow st kilda,so dont really care about other teams,my friend is one eyed maggies i really dont care,i did get drews letter, but i sent him a message, dont know if he got it, did get your email, but not your address or other information you said you gave him, if you cant get my email, and i dont know why you cant, as i said the only other thing i can think of is facebook, , you have that information, let me know if thats not good for you and will try and think of another way,talk soon,cat,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:07am
hi simmo, i follow st kilda,so dont really care about other teams,my friend is one eyed maggies i really dont care,i did get drews letter, but i sent him a message, dont know if he got it, did get your email, but not your address or other information you said you gave him, if you cant get my email, and i dont know why you cant, as i said the only other thing i can think of is facebook, , you have that information, let me know if thats not good for you and will try and think of another way,talk soon,cat,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:02pm
hi simmo, i dont know why but cant get that suiggle in your email, do hope you can get mine through, i think you have enough reds now to go ahead, will try it again , may have to go through a friends comp, first to get it, but the old saying, where theres a will theres a way,lol, if not then as i said facebook is the only other option i can think of, talk soon, cheers,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:02pm
hi simmo, i dont know why but cant get that suiggle in your email, do hope you can get mine through, i think you have enough reds now to go ahead, will try it again , may have to go through a friends comp, first to get it, but the old saying, where theres a will theres a way,lol, if not then as i said facebook is the only other option i can think of, talk soon, cheers,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
12:02pm
hi simmo, i dont know why but cant get that suiggle in your email, do hope you can get mine through, i think you have enough reds now to go ahead, will try it again , may have to go through a friends comp, first to get it, but the old saying, where theres a will theres a way,lol, if not then as i said facebook is the only other option i can think of, talk soon, cheers,
Young Simmo
21st Apr 2013
2:26pm
Hello catsahoy, actually I am not currently into the Facebook and Twitter things, I did register when they first started years ago but never really used them and about 6 months ago I unsubscribed. When I unsubscribed something very significant happened. I went from 2 to 4 Scam E-mails per day, every day down to my current lot of 1 or no scams per week. I only unsubscribed because I wasn't using Facebook etc and was sick of getting unimportant rubbish from friends and associates. Reduceing the scam e-mails by allmost 100% was an unexpected bonus. Drew did say he was going to give you my E-mail address, so I will touch base with him tomorrow morning and tidy it up.
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
6:47pm
hi simmo, i dont know why you cant get my email. i just cannot get the squiggle into your, i have given your email to a [trusty friend] who will send you a short email, answer her, and she will send me your reply,hopefully i can get your from that, only thing i can think off, i even tried email through my mobile, have the adress in, but dont know if the message went through, you may have to go back onto facebook, i use it to talk to a granddaughter who is far away, you dont have to talk to anyone you dont want to, thats what i like about it, YOU moniter who sees your page, im a bit loath to put mobile no on here, we will see how this email goes first, if that doesnt work, may have to give it a miss, shame ,as i feel an empathy with you, but well see, take care, hope we talk soon,
Young Simmo
21st Apr 2013
7:12pm
Catsahoy I have just sent an e-mail that appeares to have gone through, Iawait your confirmation.
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
catsahoy
21st Apr 2013
10:17pm
well i never, what a clever boy you are, i had just about given up hope, had tried my mobile, but you have to be connected at your end , we will wait and see if were down the right path,
Maggs
22nd Apr 2013
12:33pm
What an interesting and entertaining thread, I hope you both become good pals and have a long and satifying online friendship, smile
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
catsahoy
22nd Apr 2013
2:03pm
thanks maggs, didnt mean for this conversation to go for so long,lol glad you got a smile out of it,. yes hopefully it becomes a frienship. the internet is wonderful isnt it, if anyone had told me a few years ago that i would be conversing with someone the other side of australia, id have said 'your dreaming' have a good day,
vivity
23rd Apr 2013
4:50pm
Hi Catsahoy and Young Simmo feel like I was eavesdropping on an interesting conversation, just a thought but if you are both members of the Community you can send each other messages through Private Messages on here makes it easy when you don't know someones email. Other thing is Young Simmo you must have a lot to tell about growing up in WA in the 50s would you consider posting on the Forum about it? That way its legit and no one can complain if they think going off topic is "crap" see below. I for one would love to hear more stories from everyone about their childhood in Australia.
Young Simmo
23rd Apr 2013
6:14pm
vivity, that is a interesting comment you have made there. Actually a couple of years ago I decided to put some of my memories on computer from my childhood days back in the 1940s when I was 6,7,8,9 and 10 living up on the Wyndham Meatworks. Trouble is it started out as a couple of lines and quickly become 4 very full pages. If I put it up here it would probably choke the system. Catsahoy and I now have each others e-mail address, and have become old friends in about 24 hrs.If you tell me where to find Private Messages I will send you my ramblings and you can be Judge.
vivity
23rd Apr 2013
10:48pm
OK go to the Red Line at the very top of this page, on the far right you will see Community, click on that and it will say something like register or log in, If you previously registered (which you may be because it looks like I can send you a message) just log in if not register and then click on your profile and Private Messages will show up. I am going to send you a private message now by clicking on your name and the message will be forwarded to you and you will find it in your junk mail if not in your main mail. You should also be able to send me a private message now just by clicking on my name above if you are registered. I hope that is clear and not confusing?
speakup
23rd Apr 2013
3:15am
What is all this catsahoy and simmo crap repeat after repeat what sort of forum is this ? I thought the topic was the Pension increase
Young Simmo
23rd Apr 2013
9:42am
speakup, As difficult as it obviously is for you to contemplate, there are some people out there in the real world that just on occasions think out side of the square. Catsahoy and I have been, seen, caught up, communicated and now are on a different world to you. Therefore you can now go back to sleep and I promise not to step over that line that only you can see anymore.
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:49pm
speakup, are you so close minded that you begrudge people making contact, i feel you have a lonely and one track life, it is through forums like this, where like minded people can express views, that frienships are formed, obviously somethink you know nothing about, no one forced you to read our co rrespondence, you could have quite easily skipped over it, saying that, it seems at least a couple of people followed it and were pleased for the connection, , try to smile and be happy for people, youll find it will take years of you,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:49pm
speakup, are you so close minded that you begrudge people making contact, i feel you have a lonely and one track life, it is through forums like this, where like minded people can express views, that frienships are formed, obviously somethink you know nothing about, no one forced you to read our co rrespondence, you could have quite easily skipped over it, saying that, it seems at least a couple of people followed it and were pleased for the connection, , try to smile and be happy for people, youll find it will take years of you,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:49pm
speakup, are you so close minded that you begrudge people making contact, i feel you have a lonely and one track life, it is through forums like this, where like minded people can express views, that frienships are formed, obviously somethink you know nothing about, no one forced you to read our co rrespondence, you could have quite easily skipped over it, saying that, it seems at least a couple of people followed it and were pleased for the connection, , try to smile and be happy for people, youll find it will take years of you,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:49pm
speakup, are you so close minded that you begrudge people making contact, i feel you have a lonely and one track life, it is through forums like this, where like minded people can express views, that frienships are formed, obviously somethink you know nothing about, no one forced you to read our co rrespondence, you could have quite easily skipped over it, saying that, it seems at least a couple of people followed it and were pleased for the connection, , try to smile and be happy for people, youll find it will take years of you,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
Young Simmo
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
Catsahoy, the world is made up of something like 6 plus billion people. In that many you have to have a few different ones. They can not all be perfect like you and me.
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:55pm
hi vivity, ha ha, yes it did go on for awhile didnt it, hope you got a smile along the way, hope you have made contact with young simmo, im sure you will find him a most interesting man, cheers,
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
23rd Apr 2013
11:59pm
hi simmo, no unfortunatlly, not all are like us, some people need to lighten up, and start living, ,instead of hiding in there little shell, oh well, there lose, our gain, cheers
catsahoy
24th Apr 2013
12:01am
thanks once again for the animals, loved them,
catsahoy
24th Apr 2013
12:01am
thanks once again for the animals, loved them,
John
22nd Jan 2014
1:39pm
I draw your attention to the ‘Welfare Act 1946? and it’s repeal act of 1985.
In 1944, Labor Prime Minister (Ben Chifley) introduced 3 bills to establish the ‘National Welfare Fund’, to be funded by a compulsory Contribution (levy) of 1/6 in the pound (20/-) on all personal income. The Opposition Leader would only give bilateral support to these bills if the funds collected were held in a separate account and not general revenue. Prime Minister Chifley agreed and established The National Welfare Fund as at 01/01/1946. It was a ‘Trust’ Fund with the federal Parliament as ‘Trustee’. The compulsory contribution (levy) commenced as of this date. In 1950 the fund held almost 100,000,000 pounds. From this date onwards when Menzies was Prime Minister the levy was grouped with the Consolidated Revenue Account. The sabotage of the National Welfare Fund had commenced. All governments from this date raided the fund for general expenses and in 1977 Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser transferred the balance (Approx. $470,000,000) to the consolidated Revenue Account.
In 1985 the Labor Government repealed the act of 1945 thereby finally ending the National Welfare Funds Act. However, the 7.5% income tax levy was not repealed and to this day continues to be collected as a portion of Income tax revenue.
All persons in Australia who have paid personal income tax since 1946 have contributed to their age pension and as such the Age Pension is fully funded. It is not the fault of the age pensioners if the governments over the years have squandered their pension funds for general expenses.
pauline
22nd Jan 2014
4:28pm
Hi Precious,
Yes, I too know of a couple of elderly men who are sending monies to overseas ladies even though these poor guys have hardly enough money for themselves. Yes, Tia Maria, it is all too strange but true.
geomoiaus
21st Feb 2014
2:26pm
These pension rates are for March 2013. Should be updated. It is nearly 2014!!! Surely new rates are available that are more up to date.


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