New Labor policy

 

The Labor conference on Saturday voted in favour of gay, lesbian, transgender and intersex couples having the same access to IVF, adoption and domestic surrogacy arrangements as heterosexual couples.
 
Do you agree with this labor policy which they will take to the next election..?
 
 

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Yes.

Yes

Do you agree with Homosexuals having surrogacy , that is paying someone to carry a baby for them so setting up a child with three parents ..

Heterosexual couples use surrogacy = 3 parents.  Insemination of sperm or egg =  3 parents. Adoption = 4 parents. So what are you on about Pete?

Loaded question Pete? you need to read the Surrogacy Laws and they should be applied equally whether Hetero or LGBT couples not as in some states only being legal for Heterosexual couples.

From Wikipedia

In all jurisdictions of Australia, altruistic surrogacy has been the only recently recognized surrogacy that has become legal. However, in all states and the Australian Capital Territory arranging commercial surrogacy is a criminal offense, although the Northern Territory has no legislation governing surrogacy at all and there are no plans to introduce laws on surrogacy into the NT Legislative Assembly in the near future.[1] Moreover New South Wales, Queensland and the Australian Capital Territory have made it an offence for residents to enter into international commercial surrogacy arrangements with potential penalties extending to imprisonment for up to one year in Australian Capital Territory, up to two years imprisonment in New South Wales and up to three years imprisonment in Queensland.

In 2004, the Australian Capital Territory was the first jurisdiction within Australia to pass legislation to make only altruistic surrogacy legal, under the Parentage Act 2004.

In 2006, Australian senator Stephen Conroy and his wife Paula Benson announced that they had arranged for a child to be born through egg donation and gestational surrogacy. Unusually, Conroy was put on the birth certificate as the father of the child. Previously, couples who used to make surrogacy arrangements in Australia had to adopt the child after it was registered as born to the natural mother; rather than being recognized as birth parents, however now that surrogacy is more regular practice for childless parents; most states have switched to such arrangements to give the intended parents proper rights.[2][3] After the announcement, Victoria passed a law called the Assisted Reproductive Treatment Act 2008, effective since 1/1/2010 to make only altruistic surrogacy legal.[4]

In 2009, both Western Australia and South Australia passed a law that allows altruistic surrogacy legal only for couples of the opposite-sex only, and is banned for single people and same-sex couples, under the Surrogacy Act 2008 and the Family Relationships Act 1975 respectively.

In 2010, Queensland passed a law to make only altruistic surrogacy legal, under the Surrogacy Act 2010 No 2.[5] In the same year New South Wales, under the Surrogacy Act 2010 No 102 passed a law to make only altruistic surrogacy legal and in 2013, Tasmania also passed a law to make only altruistic surrogacy legal, under the Surrogacy Act No 34 and the Surrogacy (Consequential Amendments) Act No 31[6][7][8][9][6]

It was not a loaded question at all it was a very simple question . Do you agree with Homosexuals having surrogacy . 

I gave you my answer above - equal treatment for all.

This would mean changing the current laws . Would you change the fact that at present it is altruistic . 

Secondly would the true mother have the right to abort the child ..

Surrogacy is adoption where you are undertaking to bring up another persons child . 

We currently have very strict criteria in adopting children will these same criteria apply to surrogacy. 

We currently have our own children in orphanages , Open as Ms Gillards Royal Commission found , to institutional abuse . 

Instead of parents going to China ec to adopt children or Suragacy we should be giving our own orphans a real home first to those parents who truly wish to raise a child. 

In the case of Alruistic Suragacy what riights will the true mother have ..In the case of Homosexual divorce will the child have the right to live with its mother?

Any policy for equality is a good policy regardless of the party involved..

Yes so will the mother involved with surrogacy have equal rights?

I think this is another Labor policy which has not been thought through to its ramifications ...

I believe that Abbott is considering putting a vote to the people;  I happen to agree with that.  We are being told constantly that 2/3rds of the country agree with the change to the Marriage Act.

If this is so fine;  but put it to the people first.  The majority wins the argument and I will be happy with whatever the outcome .

We have a parliment that we elect to make these decisions . This is not a constitutional matter than needs a referendum ...

labor have clearly stAtEd their view that they will implement Homosexual marriage within one hundred days of being elected . 

This discussion I started is not about Homosexual Marrige which we have had many discussions on But about IVF Adopotion and surrogacy . 

The Labor conference on Saturday voted in favour of gay, lesbian, transgender and intersex couples having the same access to IVF, adoption and domestic surrogacy arrangements as heterosexual couples. 

Yes.

Why are certain issues put forward for a vote to the people and other's not? surely it's not just a "Labour policy" but one that has been accepted by some other progressive countries - so how do they deal with the details involved?

Some including me do not see the New Labor policies as progressive . But not thought through to the ramifications for children and the true mothers rights...

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