Julia Gillard voted world's best PM

Nautilus
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1st Apr 2012
1:48am
Posted Nautilus

Heh, heh, in her dreams......April 1, 2012.

Deanna
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1st Apr 2012
2:39am

Who voted her the Worlds Best PM??????  Arrrrh wait, it's April Fools Day :) :) :) :)

1st Apr 2012
8:41am

Shall we ask the Queenslanders to vote? 

innes
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1st Apr 2012
9:22am

I think this is just a little unfair.  Most of the criticisms of Gillard have come from the coalition & appropriate deals between the Greens & Labor.  The Party made these deals, not Gillard who has been stuck with them.  Under these circumstances, I think that she has done a better job than she has been given credit for.  Eg., Rudd ran the agenda right up until the last minute on the challenge, then Gillard destroyed him in 4 days.  The carbon tax & the boat people will effectively get rid of her & the Labor Gov., but neither eminated from her decisions.

1st Apr 2012
5:08pm

Innes, as Dep PM with Rudd, she had her fingerprint on all the policies.  Then she tells us she deposed Rudd because they'd lost their way!!??  Surely an admission of failure on her part?

 In 2010, she signed into a partnership with a Party led by a bloke who is waiting for an intergalactic phone call!   Helloooo.

No-one forced her to do that.  She could have called for another election.

 

Then there's the constant and very irritating, grating and obsessive

Abbot

Abbot

Abbot!

When does she take responsibility for her actions?

Not to mention the different personlities pulled out of the drawer, depending on circumstances.

Did I mention her deceitfulness and general inadequacy for the job?

Nautilus
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1st Apr 2012
11:30am

Too right, as a womyn she is blameless, an eternal victim.

Will the real PM "Sideshow" Bob Brown aka "Beam Me Up Scotty" (after his recent discovery  that aliens existed in Oz but suffered extinction from global warming) please step forward?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MHRSFz6FM

Oh that the Gillard/Greens government was an April Fools Day joke and wasn't real at all.

 

 

2nd Apr 2012
2:08pm

Just looked at the video....good one.

 

Nautilus, tis such a pity that not one of the rest of the govt ministers has got the gumption to step forward and cross the floor.    I'm sure there must be those , like perhaps, Mar'n Ferguson, who have still got a conscience, but the Party does not allow for individual thought.      I seem to recall for instance, he let it slip once..  he's not a believer in AGW.

Whatever else one thinks of the Libs, they don't stop their members from crossing the floor if they disagree on policy.

I think also, Albanese's 'convoy of no consequence ' remark will not be erased from peoples' consiousness.  It is another pointer to the types she has surrounding her.

So it's not just Gillard herself who is the problem.

innes
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1st Apr 2012
11:34am

Nautilus, I was not introducing the female bit at all.  I was referring to our PM, who was stuck with a deal that she was not responsibility for.  The Prime Minister is without gender & an entity in itself, neither man or woman.

Deanna
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1st Apr 2012
11:54am

I took this thread to be what it is, a joke...... however, if I had taken it seriously I may have taken your viewpoint Innes. On the above point I have to disagree though, you say our PM was stuck with a deal she was not responsible for, the way I see the deal she made with the Greens, she made the deal so she could form a Govt, she has stuck to it so therefore she must be responsible for it.  Just my opinion.

Nautilus
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1st Apr 2012
12:17pm

April 1 and a little leeway is OK.

I am not suggesting that you introduced gender or would ever rely on it. Rather I was responding to the campaign by her spin masters and others.

Nonetheless I have a different opinion.  It was Gillard's choice to deny her own firm promise and mandate not to introduce a carbon dioxide tax.  It was purely her ambition to be PM that made her do that, not any service to the people who very plainly would not otherwise have voted Labor and deserved a government that reflected their will.

Anna Bligh chose to ride roughshod over public opinion and similarly broke a firm promise for her own career benefit. 

I would be the first to say that Bob Brown should be a senior minister in the Gillard government.  There should be accountability for him too.

Originally I did support Gillard in her run for government.

Nautilus
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1st Apr 2012
11:49am

Hmmmm, talking about Star Trek did anyone see William Shatner's roast?  Political correctness in Australia is so extreme that a similar event in this country would be unimaginable. 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2k63o_kirk-gets-roasted-shatner-s-celebri_fun

It was said of Russia that it had freedom of speech but freedom afterwards was a different matter.  Australia has gone that way under political correctness and not one vote being cast for the change.

1st Apr 2012
4:12pm

That looks great, what I've seen so far anyway. The video stops and starts so I'll have to look at it in bits and pieces.

You're right about what is happening here re free speech.  The only people speaking up are people like Bolt.  One or two others a little here and there, but noone else seems to take the matter seriously.

Nautilus
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1st Apr 2012
4:29pm

koko,

I was surprised that I was taken aback by some of the comments.  Yet it was only humourous vulgarity without ill intent.  We are victims of censorship that is far deeper and more pervasive than we might realise - until challenged by a bit of raw humour like that.

I believe that Australia is in the grip of wowserism and has been for some time.  We are rushing back to the rigid censorship and clamps on information that many of us found so objectionable and controlling in the Sixties (and did something about it).

1st Apr 2012
4:46pm

  We are victims of censorship that is far deeper and more pervasive than we might realise 

I believe that Australia is in the grip of wowserism and has been for some time.  We are rushing back to the rigid censorship and clamps on information that many of us found so objectionable and controlling in the Sixties (and did something about it).

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Just came across this eminently sensible piece, which is in line with what you (and I in my not so articulate way) are expressing.

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A win for wowsers, not women

As a result of Kyle Sandilands's outrageous diatribe against a female critic, the shock jock and his colleagues at 2Day FM must not say anything bad about women or girls on air for at least five years.

This is no victory for feminism but for the ever-growing legions of the easily offended and quick-to-censor brigade.

The Australian Communications and Media Authority has placed an unprecedented sanction on the station - it must not broadcast material that demeans or is reasonably likely to demean women or girls generally, or any woman in particular.

And what is more, staff must be sent to re-education camp. They must learn how not to place undue emphasis on gender, or use overt sexual references to a woman's appearance, or condone or incite violence against women. I am in total agreement with the sanction about violence but the rest goes too far.

As much as I relish the thought of the re-educators trying to transform Kyle and his buddies into metrosexuals, the punishment reeks of Orwell's thought police.

It is great to encourage respect for women and to prohibit discrimination in areas that directly affect women's lives - such as getting a job, a house and services. But it is unwise to ban certain ideas about women in general from being articulated because they aren't nice.

Today it is re-education camp for right speech on women. Tomorrow it will be for right speech on Christians, mining magnates and fat people (often one and the same).



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/a-win-for-wowsers-not-women-20120330-1w3dw.html#ixzz1qliuuBgp



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/a-win-for-wowsers-not-women-20120330-1w3dw.html#ixzz1qliinsqb



innes
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1st Apr 2012
7:29pm

I know that we are equal because the wowsers & do gooders told me so.  May I repeat a serious question that I have asked on here before?

Why do we have mens & womens events in every sport at every level, especially the Olympic Games?  We know that you must give a woman preference over any male applicants for any builders labourer's job she applies for, as well as a smaller shovel & barrow.

I am fully aware that it is a ridiculous scenario because women are simply not equal to a man in the physical sense.  It is never going to be altered by any stupid law.

2nd Apr 2012
7:52am

Innes, it's called  *Communism.  

As is also, what is being described as 'a media enquiry',  internet censorship, and currently, a Green politician wanting laws set up, so an elected State Govt cannot wind  back Green  policies put in place by  previous govts.

*These days described as the more acceptable 'Socialism.

2nd Apr 2012
9:11am

Quote innes "Why do we have mens & womens events in every sport at every level, especially the Olympic Games?"

Innes, you now have your answer . Innes, it's called  *Communism. And it is the fault of the Greens obviously. It is also communism that forces the little old lady who is a builder's labourer to have a little shovel . Those Greens have a lot to answer for.

innes
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2nd Apr 2012
9:57am

Thank you koko & fwed.  One saving grace is that if I am right, the Greens reached their ascendancy in the 2010 elections.  They dropped 30% in Queensland & I believe that it will be over 40% next year.  The unfortunate thing is that unless we have a death or a resignation in the Labor Party, we will only have a half Senate election next year & the Greens will still easily have the balance of Power.

Aaron
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2nd Apr 2012
10:41am

Ahhh, Communism. Yes, the big old bogey from the McCarthy era. "Reds under the Bed". You want to demonise someone from an even slightly left of centre political viewpoint? - then slap the "Commo" or "Pinko" tag on them. Works every time, just as it did in the McCarthy era, when tens of thousands of thinking people had their lives, aspirations, and careers destroyed, by the 20th century equivalent of the Salem Witch trials.

Never fear that those same, hard-as-nails right-wingers - who are onto "Commos" and "Pinkos" like a flash, if they even mention any kind of wealth realignment from the mega-billionaires, to those less fortunate - are the same ones moving all their technology, manufacturing, and personal-wealth generation, into the biggest, the most harshest, and the most repressive Communist regime in the world!! Doesn't it make you want to puke??

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