Innes The story of politics - every new government inherits poor decisions from the one before.  Howard left us the legacy of two invasions which were illegal  under International Law at a huge human and financial cost. Ok he had a big surpus but pensioners got very little under him. He talked about "the Economy" as if it was his "god."  He put Australia in a very bad light with his harsh attitudes to asylum seekers and lies about children overboard and imaginary WMD's. 

Abbott was not a very wonderful Health Minister, so I have no faith that he will make any sort of a PM.  Had they had a more credible leader and front bench perhaps they would have been worth voting for.............??? 

I just have no real faith in politicians to do any better one than another.  The Greens just want to push their whacky ideas. Where are the leaders??? Perhaps we have what we deserve as a nation?

That was well said taskid but I am afraid innes will not hear it. Any PM who would take his country to war based on a lie to suck up to G.Bush would have to be among the worst we could ever have.

And you are right about the pensioner bit.

It is easy to get on here & make statements that are your personal beliefs, even if they are not true.  In general terms the Federal Government does not run the Health System.  It is run by the individual States with Federal Funding.  Just what, specifically did Abbott do, as Health Minister, that upset you so much taskid?  Pensioners got a higher proportionate rise under Howard than they have under the present Government.  If the invasions were illegal under Howard, why did Rudd or Gillard not withdraw the troops?  In fact, what were we doing losing a large proportion of our young men supporting Chamberlain in 1939?  I wouldn't get too concerned about the rusted on political beliefs of somebody who believes that you need a pump to get water from a tap at the bottom of an aquifer.

seth, please don't think that I was a total fan of Kennett.  I will never be convinced that the essential services should not be in the hands of the Government.  I also believe that unless the Government is prepared to nationalise, they should own & run a major competitor in all major industries such as banking & Insurance.  You only have to have a very brief look at what has happened to the Rail System in England to see what is coming here.  One of the biggest problems effecting NSW with international tourism is that the Sydney Airport was sold to the Macquarie Bank & I have been advised that the landing costs are the highest in the World.

I read somewhere that the Wind turbine are very noisy causing people headaches and stress and illness to the neighbours next to the wind farms

Further the value of their property falls as no one wats to buy next to a wind turbine

Some people claim to have been hospitalised because of this, causing further demand on hospital beds

Of course the bailiar mob won't say anything about their withdrawal of 615 m  from the health sector, they can just go on blaming the last labor gov't.          I never knew whether to laugh or boo when I heard baillieu come out with his mantra, which sounds so familiar to his 'The Nurses, the Police and the teachers, how they will move from the lowest paid to the highest,Now we have the same cry, 'Our parole laws will be the toughest'I never see any posts from so called carbon tax lie pushers, regarding the liberal lies.. Then you have baillieu protecting Geof Shaw after using a gov't car for private business deliveries to Sth Aust and NSW, that should deserve a jail sentence on it's own. or be sacked immediately. imagine doing that to your employer? you would be dismissed immediately.

I have heard the same Abby and checked it out . The group promoting the health concerns has an unregistered doctor as a spokesperson and funding comes from coal type businesses . I,m speaking in general terms here but there are more specific data on the web . Strangely ill heath is directly connected to people who have a neighbour who suffers no symptoms but is paid for having turbines on their property . Also it may be of interest that a property in a little known area of Victoria helped push the barrow on the 2km zone . The property belongs to the Wooldridge family , one of which is a current serving member of the Ballyhoo govt. and another is the former federal health minister . Remmber the MRI ? debacle , info released to doctors before the government announcement  . Its a classsic action of the big tobaco mould . Anyway thats my two bobs worth . cheers

Whatever is the truth but I sure would not like a noisy contraption like that next door - I even hate the sound of the wind especially after the tail end of Oswald came through.

In Europe they have solar light farms which do not disturb the serenity of the countryside.