If you get upset re death easily, DO NOT READ please.

Peaceful pillWhat do folks feel about having "Nembutel" on hand? and a member of the euthanasia group?

I know we can go to jail if we have it on hand for "when absolutely required". I am talking EXTREME pain and debility. Why not go chase  the many baddies around, as surely police have enough to do and our own business surely what we choose and between us and our God.

Nothing to do with age other than a person incapacitated and perhaps being put into a home or whatever, without their faculties and knowing what happened to other family members. Do we have the right to force terminally ill people suffering terrible pain at the end of our lives to wait for a slow death? We treat our animals better than this. Surely a person's right to choose and pass in dignity a better way.

 

 

 

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Phyl to answer your question if for instance I was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease knowing that eventually I would be in no position to do anything for myself, have to rely on others totally and face a death of "drowning" , yes I would like to be able to use something like Nembutal before I inflicted watching such a death on my family or relying on the opinion of others whether giving me drugs was justifiable.

This is an "old" topic - wonders why it has been revamped after all this time? Everyone had their say "yonks" ago....nothing has changed? 

My Nephew died at a young age of MND Viv. and he expressed the wish to pass before he could not swallow etc. but his parents were horrified so he passed as MND people do sadly. What a horrible disease it is. In such cases is it "God helps those who help themselves".

What difficult positions people find themselves in.

I believe I still have a note from a bloke asking me if I could help him get hold of "the peaceful death drug" I took the "cowards way out" and said nothing. I never did see him on this forum again.  It is a couple years ago now and NO nobody who posts here now.

Phyl,

Please don't think you took the "cowards way out".  You could only do what you did.

I think those who know before-hand what they are likely to experience, can find a solution themselves without involving others. 

I am sure there is great Pallative Care but it did not happen for Peter's Mum who broke her hip and needed nursing care but after just a short time was taken to Pallative Care where ALL her medication was stopped: food withheld: and we were told just sips of water from a sppon (how often I wonder) This lady took awhile to pass but at 99 years of age and not with dementia deserved much better.

Neither Peter or I had any say in the matter, as Peter was not his Mum's Power of Attorney nor executor of her affairs so completely out of our hands sadly sadly.

It still haunts me.

 

Phyl, 

I am so very sorry.  

I have heard of elderly patients, themselves, refusing to eat. This seems to ease them into death.

But I am not relating this at all to your mother-in-law.  She certainly deserved better.

Thanks Twila. The one nursing home Peter's Mum went to, she was very happy and was receiving all her meds. but this did not suit her Power of Attorney so moved her to a Religious home where apparently the Doctor there, was happy to stop all meds. etc.

We phoned every day of course and sent many parcels to her and cards and asked to be advised of anything she needed or wanted and it was sent pronto, but that was all we could do, as we were not told anything other than she was comfortable when we spoke to the staff (often).

Phyl, Y

You did your very best.  None could have done better.

You said that she did not suffer from dementia.  Perhaps any decision was a joint one taken with the doctor.  She would have been aware of the situation.  I suspect that this could well have been her decision as well.  Do you think it possible?

Thanks Twila.

Nan wanted to live, and happy to reach 100. Others found it all to much trouble.

We all handle grief in different ways, as expected.

Given time I tend to write down the feelings experienced at the time in some form or another.

It is cathartic I guess but to me it leads to some form of understanding.

SD

Interesting reading some of these posts. At this point in time, I could not even contemplate euthanasia..but..I have not walked a mile in anyone's shoes. I have seen my own father suffer during his last days with lung cancer and wished so many times there was something more we could do to end his suffering. I also remember feeling so guilty because I was having these thoughts and at the time the immense relief I felt when it was all over. I feel it's a personal choice..I certainly wouldn't want to be kept on a life support machine and have left instructions to that effect. I think it's very important to leave clear instructions while we are in reasonable health and sound mind as to what steps we'd like our relatives to take..not to put the burden solely on their shoulders. 

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