We will fight Radical Islam for the next hundred years

AUSTRALIA needs to prepare for an increasingly savage, 100-year war against radical Islam that will be fought on home soil as well as foreign lands, the former head of the army, Peter Leahy, has warned.

Professor Leahy, a leading defence and strategic analyst, told The Weekend Australian the country was ill-prepared for the high cost of fighting a war that would be paid in “blood and treasure” and would require pre-emptive as well as reactive action.

“Australia is involved in the early stages of a war which is likely to last for the rest of the century,” he said. “We must be ready to protect ourselves and, where necessary, act pre-emptively to neutralise the evident threat. Get ready for a long war.”


Professor Leahy — a former lieutenant general who ran the army for six years, from 2002-2008 — said the threat of radical Islam would require action on several fronts, including a strengthening of controls against biological, chemical and nuclear attacks.

It would also include greater protection for critical infra­structure and iconic targets against attack.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/well-fight-radical-islam-for-100-years-says-exarmy-head-peter-leahy/story-e6frg8yo-1227018630297

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27 maps that explain the crisis in Iraq

http://www.vox.com/a/maps-explain-crisis-iraq

Abby can you turn blue ...umm u know what I mean ..,.

Several compting factions of the IMK (later renamed the Islamic Unity Movement in 2000) are worthy of mention.

Hamas

Originating in Garmian (such as the towns of Kifri, Kalar, Darbandikhan, and Chamchamal), the fanatical members of Hamas uphold a Salafiya interpretation of Islam in which the Quran and the hadith are interpreted literally. They clashed violently with the PUK in 1993 and 1994, after which they settled in and around the town of Khurmal. The movement split from the IMK in 1997, following the Islamic Movement's agreement to participate in the PUK government (Hamas maintains that any cooperation with secular parties is contrary to Islam). The group is led by Umar Abdul Karim Abdul Aziz (Umar Barziani). Umar trained and fought in Afghanistan, along with Makuwan Qazi Ramazan (Makuwan Muryasi) and Arsalan Ahmad Marif. In July 2001, Hamas united with Tawhid under the new name, Tawhid Islamic Front.

Tawhid

Tawhid, led by Mullah Abdul Ghani Bazazi, was formed out of the mosques in Irbil, though the KDP banned it. Because the IMK leadership did not support Tawhid against the KDP, in 2000 a shadowy group formed within Tawhid named the Tawhid Islamic Group. This group initiated a terror campaign of throwing acid at unveiled women. When the KDP cracked down on the group, many relocated to Halabja, and have also operated a base in Hajji Umran. The relationship between Tawhid and Hamas developed in part out of a mutual dislike of Mullah Abdul Aziz' Islamic Unity Movement (the successor to the IMK). Two members of Tawhid - Mullah Abu Bakr Hawleri and 'Abu Qatada' - reportedly traveled to Afghanistan to cement relations with bin Ladin. On August 8, Abu Qatada gave a dinner reception in which he regaled his guests with stories about bin Ladin. In July 2001, Tawhid sent several other members to Afghanistan for training in Al-Qa'ida camps. These include: Muhammad Salih Umar, Swara Karim, Wahid Muhammad Mahmud, Usma Ahmad Baziani, and Hamin Salim Bani Shari. Following the merger with Hamas, Mullah Abu Bakr Hawleri became leader with the Hamas' Umar Baziani as his deputy.
http://www.meforum.org/meib/articles/0112_ir1.htm

A article from 2001 about the threat to The Kurds I came upon this gem ...

Geo,

Our back yard is full of New Holland Honeyeaters. Pretty much all year round.

I have counted 27 in the bird bath on a hot summers day.

Quite tame. They do tend to fly into the kitchen windows and stun themselves. I sit and hold them until they come good.

SD

I found one dead on the tiles not far from the front window and wondered about it . Maybe it smacked the window  or something else attacked it . You must have a few native plants about SD ?   

Shaggs,

Your yard sounds great. Here we get the white faced honey eaters which look almost identical except more white on the face. They come in spring here (but live in the coastal scrub ~1km away) and get the usual harrassment from the friar birds in our back yard. We also get parrots, lorrikeets and other honey eaters. I was amazed when the agave flowered for the first time, and was frequented only by the blue eyed honeyeaters. Grevillias which flower all year are the majour attractants. Miraculously, all seem to survive whacking into windows, last one was a white headed pidgeon that made quite a bang.

We sometimes get echidnas, but the bane of my veggie garden is the out there with arrogance - bush turkeys.

What irony that the PKK are classed as terrorists by the USA and UK but are the group that opened up the pathway for people to escape the mountain .

Guy Rundle Crikey

It was the PKK, after all, who opened up the corridor through which the Yazidis escaped from IS, and it is the PKK who have been taking on IS in front-line action to regain lost territory. The reason isn’t hard to see: the PKK, Marxist-Leninist, are not only well-trained, but well-indoctrinated (in the best sense of the term) -- they know what they’re fighting for, and they’re willing to die for a secular cause: Kurdish nationhood first, and wider human progress beyond that. The peshmerga, on the other hand, are made up of loyalist militias who were fighting each other not so long ago. Should the peshmerga crumble, it is the PKK who will provide the ultimate on-ground defence for Iraqi Kurdistan.

"Self-liberation by the Kurds destroys any chance of re-establishing the Western salvation narrative, whereby [the West] gets one last chance, Hollywood style, to make things right."

The US recognises this de facto, which is why it is providing de facto logistical support to the PKK in maintaining a line between IS and the Yazidis. But for the US, the UK and Australia, the PKK remains a banned terrorist group. This ban should be lifted immediately, and if these governments are serious about the safety of the Iraqi Kurds -- as opposed to protecting the government of Kurdistan, quite a different thing -- they will do so. Whether the PKK ever deserved the "terrorist" handle is a question of definitions -- they were a very violent insurgent guerrilla army, but they never targeted civilians randomly. Their listing was a sop to Turkey, as a North Atlantic Treaty Organisation member, at a time when it was offering the Kurds no national life or existence. Now that the PKK has abandoned the demand for an independent Kurdistan in Turkish territory -- armed struggle continues but by splinter groups -- it should be given its due as a full partner.

No Pete.."we will not fight radical Islam for the next hundred years".  According to many Christians, the religion spoken about in the Book of Revelations is Islam. It is the fastest growing religion in the world and many believe that it will take over the world sometime in the future and that sharia law will prevail. I'm glad I won't be here to see it, but Pete if you are look on the bright side of things..you will be allowed four wives..that should keep you busy!!

All at the same time no thanks I have enough problems having them serially...

Pete...you see what happens as you grow older? Wisdom arrives!!!

One woman in a lifetime is enough for any sensible man.  I know why the longevity for men is, on average, 5 years longer than that for women.  The word "nag" comes to mind.

I meant five years less for men Oops somebody in the background calling"

I phoned the Islamic Samaritans today.

When I said I was feeling suicidal they got all excited and asked if I knew how to fly a plane.



I see where one of the religious leaders here in Australia (Muslim) has spoken out against terrorism. " He" has now received death threats.

This is why, in my opinion, we hear little from moderate Muslims...they are too darn scared to stick their heads up above the parapet and they fear the repercussions.

As I said in a previous post it will be convert or die if the ISIS radicals get the upper hand.

(I wonder if Burkas come in any other colours other than black and blue )

What colour is your preference Radish.

I like pink burka and a yellow fluorescent g string

Radish

I believe this show is to be repeated or maybe it already has , not sure of the time slot . Anyway plenty of views aired openly and on tv so may be of interest . I saw only a bit of it . You can view it online in any case .

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/08/13/radicalisation-debate-intensifies-after-islamic-state-supporter-walks-insight-set

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh34Xsq7D_A

Thank you I will indeed watch.  I find that Insight program quite interesting and normally watch.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott says Muslim leaders who boycotted a meeting with him over counterterrorism laws have acted "foolishly".

At least two groups chose not to attend a meeting with Mr Abbott in Melbourne on Wednesday, including Victoria's peak Islamic body, the Islamic Council of Victoria.

Mr Abbott says the "spirit of the meetings was excellent", despite a small number deciding not to attend.

"Obviously the most important thing is to talk and that's why I was disappointed that a small number of Islamic leaders, community leaders, I thought rather foolishly boycotted that meeting," he told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"I doubt that sort of thing will happen again because its so self-evidently petty to do that kind of thing.

"You can hardly complain that people aren't talking to you, then when they offer you a talk say 'sorry we're not coming'."

The title makes a play on a recent headline in the Weekend Australian, “We’ll fight Islam 100 years”, which accompanied a story quoting a former head of army Peter Leahy saying that Australia must prepare for a war against radical Islam lasting for the rest of the century.

Australian headline
A new banner reflecting the campaign message.
Leaders will hold a banner headline, “We’ll love Muslims 100 years”, under a mock-up newspaper masthead called The Welcoming Australian.

He also described as divisive the “us and them” language developing around Christians being killed but not acknowledging Yazidis and Muslims were also being targeted.

Muslim leaders have expressed their disquiet at the national political debate in response to terrorism in the Middle East.

“That headline would be like running a headline ‘we’ll fight Christianity for 100 years’ in response to the sexual abuse allegations within the churches,” said Chilcott, who is national director of Welcome to Australia.

“Young Muslims in all walks of life are feeling very alienated by this conversation. They are uni students, engineers, doctors, all rightly feeling they are contributing to Australian life.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/22/christian-and-jewish-leaders-campaign-to-support-muslim-community

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We MUST fight Radicalism - no matter which religion.

Radicilism that show itsself up as terrorism is far more dangerous than bible bashers on street corners

Get It?

Unfortunately, whether we like to express it or not the radicals who want to cut heads off, be suicide bombers, and  fly planes into buildings say they follow a certain religion.

 Yes, there are radicals in some other religions but they have not, to my knowledge, expressed the same desires as I have described.

Radish

The article I posted was about inclusion instead of exclusion . The christian nutbags who protest at funerals and now reckon they want to go to Syria . Well maybe if they get their wish they will have their own funerals and I doubt anyone will protest at theirs .

I agree with what you say to a degree . How many catholics do you think associate with Pell and his protection of peds ? How many christians would agree with that African bible terrorist group that takes children for soldiers and ransom ? I would think about nil percent .

To get people onside you find things you have in common. All parents or 99% want the best for their kids and to live a peaceful life .

So you must agree with our Tone being inclusive and critising those who did not attend.

Dorian

There is no must or that abbott was inclusive . All Abbott has done is modify his poor rhetoric in promoting his asinine team Australia crap . Been reading too many captain America comics I think or watching the numerous comic book heroes out on the screen. Abbott is trigger happy but has trouble finding a target to shoot at .

Nice to see your inclusive attitude in action..

You know just because you are old Labor and I am a libertarian it does not mean you have to take an opposing view to me on every subject. 

You could learn from Seth who I oppose on politics but we do find things to agree on . 

When you stop being a

 

maybe . It seems you neglect that it does not matter if a policy or thought is left or right it has to have merit before it should be endorsed . So far nothing you support I find agreeable because you have a I,m alright Jack attitude to your fellow Australians . To me thats unacceptable no matter what political label you put on it .

Like what for instance.

Mr Fraser said the Prime Minister's choice of language was "terrible".

 Audio: Listen to former prime minister Malcolm Fraser talk about the term Team Australia. (AM)

 

"It resonates very, very badly with Australia's ethnic communities," he told AM.

"If I were still a member of the Liberal Party I would be totally distraught. I am interested in policy and very much interested in what's going to happen in the next week, next month, next year.

"You have got to be able to debate, and using that term is almost an attempt to stop or to shut down debate."

The Race Discrimination Commissioner has warned the Prime Minister and Federal Government should be careful not to cause divisions among the Arab and Muslim community.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-23/malcolm-fraser-calls-abbotts-team-australia-divisive/5691550

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Yes we must be very careful not to cause divisions amonst the Muslims ..,who knows they might start fighting amongst themselves ...

The doll for you . Inane comment that neglects the conversation about divisive rather than inclusive speech/terms . Can,t be bothered , late at night .

Practising in international arbitration, I need to know the arbitration law in other countries, so I was pleased to see that Baker & McKenzie had published a sort of tour d’horizon on exactly that subject.

Here it was, all laid out, so that if you want to know if they have arbitration of commercial disputes in Kazakhstan or how you execute an award in Morocco if the defendant’s only asset is a ship in New York, I am your man and can run off reams of otherwise useless information to help you along the rocky road of arbitration.

Anyway, imagine my surprise when I found this valuable publication had a bonus section on Sharia law, very useful to have up your sleeve if you are planning a bit of trade with the Caliphate of Syria and Iraq.

There in all its glory was this astounding proposition: no slave or woman may be an arbitrator! No slave or woman? How do they get away with declaring that slavery can be supported by special rules, that a slave has no civil rights and that women are to be equated with that lowly species? 

Spectator 

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