Britain has raised the terrorist threat level to SEVERE

The UK's terror threat level has been raised from "substantial" to "severe" in response to conflicts in Iraq and Syria.

Never thought I would see the day this happening...shocking!

Oh well, we will be next no doubt.

Of course we must be politically correct and not say the threats are only coming from one section of the community.

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Sorry Geoff - I prefer up to date info from

The ABC news 

"A group of Indonesian men have appeared in a recruitment video released by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) urging Indonesian Muslims to join the group's fight."

Which is getting close to home

Professor Greg Barton, a security expert from Monash University says we are only one flight away from ISIS and where it was thought the threat may have been receeding, it seems to have got a second breath and the chance of an attack is real.... tonight's news.

 It would appear to me that Australia should also be raising its threat level in line with UK especially before the upcoming summit.

Abby

I am not asking you to do anything or to be relaxed and comfortable . I was trying to point out that you are more likely to expire from a hoon car driver than a terrorist . A plane crashes on take off somewhere but it is still a safer form of transport than driving your car.

Abby and Solomon,

I tend to agree with you both.  

Deaths do result from random accidents; and where ever possible, actions should be taken to minimise these.

But terrorist attacks are deliberate and planned for maximum death and casualites.

Muslim leaders have issued a fatwa condemning Islamic extremist group Isis, and have said that British jihadis are “betraying their own societies” by getting involved in the conflicts in Iraq and Syria.

Up to 400 British citizens may be fighting in Syria, says William Hague

The foreign secretary, William Hague, has said that as many as 400 British citizens may be fighting in Syria, including some fighting with Isis, the terrorist force sweeping into Iraq.

It is the highest number the UK government has disclosed, and prompted the deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, to say the presence of UK citizens fighting in Syria represents the number one security threat to the UK.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/16/400-uk-citizens-fighting-syria-isis-iraq-william-hague


The above assessment of 400 UK citizens fighting in Syria was of mid-June, the current assessment has climbed to 500.

When these people return to the UK they are going to be highly radicalised, committed and experienced.  

Only a very small cell of terrorists is needed to cause many deaths.

I really don't understand the point of this discussion. The no 1 duty of a govt is to protect its citizens. In Australia the Govt and Oposition are in total agreement about what precautionary actions should be done

tje only area of disagreement I can see is from the greens..

Agreed Pete.  But as Abby and Solomon point out it is very unwise to be complacent.  

In 2005 ...

A TERRORIST strike on the 2005 AFL Grand Final at the Melbourne Cricket Ground was averted just two months before the game, after police raids on members of an alleged homegrown Muslim terror cell disrupted preparations for the attack.

The jury in the country's largest terrorist trial was yesterday told that after the plans to attack the MCG were foiled, the group decided to target the Crown casino during Formula One Grand Prix weekend or the AFL's pre-season NAB Cup football final early the following year.

The key prosecution witness, Izzydeen Atik, an insider who admitted to using his skills as a credit card fraudster to purchase airline tickets, telephone credit and other goods for the group, told the Victorian Supreme Court yesterday that he first learned of the proposed targets about a month after ASIO and police raids on members' homes in July 2005.

Twilsy iam agreeing with you Abb and Soloman and all right thinking people.,

Good article in today's Sydney Morning Herald:

What would success in Iraq look like?

WALEED ALY

WALEED Aly is the model moderate Muslim, used by the media to persuade us we have little to fear from Islam but our own bigotry.

His rewards have been great. Once the spokesman for the Islamic Council of Victoria, he is now an ABC radio host, a Channel 10 co-presenter and an Age columnist.

He is even a politics lecturer at Monash University’s Global Terrorism Research Centre, despite having no doctorate and having qualified in engineering and law.

This week Aly showed the style that’s made him such a pet of the establishment Left but a worry to me.

BLOG WITH ANDREW BOLT

Nigeria’s Boko Haram group last month kidnapped more than 200 schoolgirls from a boarding school and its leader announced they were “slaves” he would sell. Two are already said to be dead.

As so often when Muslim terrorists strike, Aly was brought on by Channel Ten’s The Project to explain away our fears as “an expert in terrorism”.

“So who is this group exactly?” he was asked.

Not once in his answer did “Muslim” or “Islamic” pass Aly’s lips.

“They are a really, really hard group to define because they are so splintered and so diverse,” he said.

“What we do know though is that the broader movement is a terrorist movement and they’ve been wanting to overthrow the Nigerian government and establish a government of their own.

“But beyond that, this particular group, who have done this particular thing, it’s hard to identify who they are and they might just be vigilantes.”

From a lecturer from a Global Terrorism Research Centre, this answer is astonishingly uninformed.

There is no mystery about who took the girls.

 

 

A still from a May 5 video obtained by AFP shows the leader of the Islamist extremist gro

A still from a May 5 video obtained by AFP shows the leader of the Islamist extremist group Boko Haram Abubakar Shekau (centre).

 

Boko Haram’s leader, Abubakar Shekau, has already shot a video of himself — part of which The Project showed — saying “I abducted your girls”, a boast not doubted by the Nigerian government.

Some girls who escaped confirm the kidnappers were Boko Haram terrorists who shouted “Allahu Akhbar,’ (God is great)” as they attacked the school.

Nor is there any mystery about Boko Haram’s agenda.

 

 

Women attend a demonstration calling on the government to rescue the kidnapped schoolgirl

Women attend a demonstration calling on the government to rescue the kidnapped schoolgirls. (AP Photo/Sunday Alamba)

 

Boko Haram means “Western education is sinful” — haram being the loaned Arabic word meaning sinful or forbidden by Allah. The group’s official title is Congregation of the People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad.

In his latest video Shekau stated his group’s agenda so clearly a true terrorism expert could not have missed it.

This was “a war against Christians”, Shekau shouted, and “real Muslims, who are following Salafism” should support him.

My goodness Pete, Waleed Aly has formidable intelligence and Andrew Bolt is a laughable dill. Can't you tell the difference? 

agree

I think Andrew Bolt is an excellent journalist . Walheed Aly is an apologist for terrorists can't you see the difference..

quote "I think Andrew Bolt is an excellent journalist "

Have to agree Gerry, that rather tickled me as well. Still, Bolt must be a pretty good salesman - he still manages to peddle his rubbish in his column and on TV. Goes to show the level of gullability in the community.

He must be doing something right as his program has gone from 30 minutes to an hour.  Advertisers dont do that unless there are viewers;  must be a lot of them out there.

As kfchugo said, it goes to show the level of gullibility in the community.

Waleed Aly is definitely an attractive poster child for moderate Islam.

However, what qualifications does he have to be a Politics lecturer at Monash University's Global Terrorism Research Centre.  

Aly has no doctorate.  

His degrees are in Engineering and Law, two areas distinct from those in which he lectures.

If I were a student at this Centre, I would be very concerned about the quality of education I was receiving.

The following are the extent of Waleed Aly's writings.

Publications

Books

Aly, W., 2007, People Like Us: How Arrogance is Dividing Islam and the West, Pan Macmillan, Sydney Nsw Australia.

Book Chapters

Aly, W., Carland, S., 2010, The anatomy of anti-Muslim sentiment in Australia: The case of Muslim women, in Terrorism and Social Exclusion: Misplaced Risk-Common Security, eds David Wright-Neville and Anna Halafoff, Edward Elgar Publishing, Cheltenham UK, pp. 30-47.

Aly, W., 2007, Muslim communities: their voice in Australia's anti-terorism laws and policies, in Law and Liberty in the War on Terror, eds Andrew Lynch, Edwina Macdonald & George Williams, Federation Press, Sydney, Australia, pp. 198-210.

Journal Articles

Aly, W., 2008, Axioms of Agrgression: Counter-terrorism and counter-productivity in Australia, Alternative Law Journal, vol 33, issue 1, Legal Service Bulletin Co-Operative Ltd., Australia, pp. 20-26.

Intelligence agencies are warning that a number of commercial passenger jets seized by Islamic militants could be used in new terrorist attacks, according to new reports.

Source

Yet our terrorist threat level remains the same.

Britain has raised its level to the max . It expects an attack now...hope our FM is safe..

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