Need Help AGAIN - yes its me AGAIN

Gee I am sorry everybody but i need to be straightened out yet again.

Here is my delima

Australian people claimed that housing prices skyrocketed because of foreign buyers which I thought was unfair - we need to have places to live at reasonable prices according to our economy.

The government made a statement that foreigners cannot buy existing homes but only new homes - in the main off the plan housing so they did not compete against local buyers.

This morning it is said that the birth place of Gough Whitlam is being demolished and because the council issued a destruction order the Napthine government cannot save the building as it is purchased by a FOREIGN COMPANY and they are allowed to buy provided they REBUILD WITHIN TWO YEARS.

I cannot believe it - the government tells lies or I just cannot understand so I need to be straightened out AGAIN.

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In the meantime, yields in the form of rent have fallen to just 1.9 per cent.
The price-to-earnings ratio has blown out to 53. That means a $1 million house is returning just $19,000 a year, compared to $40,000 from the poorest fixed-interest deposit.
It means you need an awful lot of capital gain to make the housing investment worthwhile.
There clearly comes a point at which the returns are too low and the expectation of capital gains too unrealistically high, so that people desert housing, or banks refuse to lend or demand their existing borrowers reduce their debt.
The only questions are how soon will that happen, and when it happens will it be sudden and large or gradual and incremental?
Egan and Soos argue that it will be soon, sudden and large, and point to the historical experiences, noting Mark Twain’s point that while history does not repeat itself, it does at least rhyme.
Indeed, they point out the Australian housing bubble is bigger now than those in the 1920s, mid-1970s and late 1980s.
The present housing price-to-earnings ratio of 53 is interesting. The dot-com bubble in the US burst before the ratio got to 53 – it reached 47.2 at its peak. In that market, people expected dot-com stocks to always increase in price, just like Australian housing investors expect lots of capital gains, so they paid more for the assets than their returns suggested they were worth, until reality set in.
An interesting aspect to Egan and Soos’ work is that they take account of the owner-occupier part of the market. The yield for those dwellings is saved rent.
There comes a point at which a person says it is better to rent than buy. You can borrow $1 million worth of capital in the form of a house for rent of just 1.9 per cent of its value. Pretty good deal.


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here in China land cannot be bought it is leased for 70 years - all land in China belongs to the people of China.

 

Peter :)

to my understanding that applies to most other countries too.

You can buy freehold in China having lived there for twelve months..

I will tomorrow copy for you pieces that you may be able to relate to about why the constitution itself is not supreme and could be altered without a referendum .

Still waiting. Australian constitution ie parliament require a referendum from the people.

Buying land is diferent to obtaining land use rights.

You have it already above at 1.38 am. 

You are quite right Abby and it seems to differ in each province . For instance in Shanghi Foreigners can buy residential housing on a freehold basis . But Beijing is a 70 year lease. 

Victorian parliament ? As usual you show your ability to evade and obscure without admitting you were wrong. An A grade Sidchrome tool. Well that was a waste of time but dealing with pete generally is.

Did you actually read the material I gave you or just the extract ..Your inability to discuss any matter with out personal abuse makes it pointless to try and explain to you the weakness of the constitution . 

Atn't Australia Pastorial areas all leasehold ..,

Can only say what happens here in mainland China .

Foreigners cannot buy property and residents can buy houses of apartments but the land is on lease only - all land is owned by the state collectively.

There is only one government in China and the same laws apply throught China .

Foreign businesses build own or lease buildings but the land is only leased for different periods depending on the industry but the land remails the property of China.

Are you in China Peter ?

I hope he stays there

peter - why dont you buy a house in your young chinese wife's name?

Aah Mai Ling Wong what a girl ....

How do you know peterseaford's wife?

I don't just reminded me of a few of mine . 

Aaahhh Ssoooo

No she was Burmese...

Pete - why not put your money where your mouth is - you said you lived here for a year and stated that land can be bought in China - to Said that the laws in Beijing and Shanghai ate different well how abput a wager .

All land in China remains the property of China and the usual lease for residential homes is 70 years

 

Phone the local Chinese consul to fimd out.

 

Solomon - with a name like you chose I expected more brains - see how silly I am .

Most  on this site seem reasonable people but some need to take a look in the mirror - life is to short to be so nasty

Have a nice day

Well said Peter :)

"life is to short to be so nasty"

Good point Peter about making all land bought by non-residents Leasehold. I was interested in these historic precedents.

Historic examples

The United Kingdom famously had a 99-year lease, or concession, to Hong Kong New Territories from China from 9 June 1898 to 1 July 1997.[5]

The Lend-Lease program of the 1940 was enabled by 99-year lease of British bases on several islands (Gander International Airport in Newfoundland) by the Destroyers for Bases Agreement.[citation needed]

All land in Canberra and The Australian Capital Territory in Australia is held by tenure under 99 year lease provisions.[6]

The land under the city of Salamanca, New York has been held under 99-year leases. In 1997, The Walt Disney Company purchased a 99-year land lease for a cay from the Bahamian government, set to expire in 2096, giving the company substantial control over the guest experience on the island.

Vivity that is very interesting and understandable most residences in the UK are on leased land as well.

I believed it was just a little missleading to say that non residents of Australia could only buy "off plan" and for that reason they did not compete against residents in the housing market .

Now it is clear that non residents can increase the housing market price because they compete for the purchase of local homes provided they rebuild.

It seems so odd that a nation would sell her land to foreigners when the same property could be leased and remain the property of the Australian people 

Have a great day

peter

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