The emails Professor Spurr did not want us to see.I

I see that this man has now dropped his court action.  Here are some of the emails if anyone interested in reading.  I found it most enlightening.  Will be interesting to see if he keeps his job at Sydney Uni.

 

https://newmatilda.com/2014/10/19/transcripts-partial-works-professor-barry-spurr-poet-racist-misogynist

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That is pure clap trap .. Just left wing apologist .. There is nothing right wing about Facists Nazis or communists , 

the Soviet Union or China or NorthKorea or Cambodia were all murderouse racist regimes . The Nazis were the same .. The only fascist regime ever to exist was Italy under Mussolini an ally of The Nazis again a racist socialist state ., imperial Japan again was a big government racist regime . 

There is nothing Liberal or right wing about any of these regimes  or the ill liberal KKK . Thank goodness for the USA where a man whose father was Kenyan negro can rise to become president . 

That is pure clap trap Pete try looking up historical opinion without right wing protective blinkers, you must be one of the very few that deny they were far right wing. 

Fine then you must have a definition of left or right ....I have given mine .As did Menzies . What is yours ?

Left wing societies where the state dominates the individual always result in nationalism and loss of freedoms ...

The USA loss more lives in the civil war than all its other wars put together . The KKK was simply the old south fighting for white supremacy an anti liberal position .the individual against the State will always win eventually ..

I wonder why pete is trying to divert the topic to garbage. Is it because his beloved rag The Australian tried to cover up for Barry Spurr ?

Professor Spurr made racist, misogynistic statements regarding Aboriginal people, people of colour generally, and women so it is strange that pete who claims to hate racism in particular stands up for Spurr by thrashing this topic.
The Australian claimed that the emails were hacked which is not true.

From New Matilda "Professor Spurr has expressed outrage that his privacy has been breached, and that it has been done so illegally.
One more time, for the record. The information technology policy of the University of Sydney – of which all staff are explicitly warned – is that their university emails are not private. It is a public institution."

Exactly why I asked Pete for his opinion Gerry. He expresses outrage about racist statements on here yet has nothing whatsoever to say about Barry Spurrs remarks and even appears to be deliberately hijacking the topic. Curious!!!

Pete, Radish's link up top leads you directly to the emails. How could you not see that? 

I have read the link Radi put up, of those by the prof, what is it you are objecting to. 

Pete how about expressing your own opinions on the obvious racist and mysoginistic remarks Spurr made.

Do you find them acceptable? Yes or No.

Would you want a man like that teaching and influencing your daughters attitudes. Yes or No.

Great question, why did I not think of asking it myself? Awaiting answer Pete.

Is not a subject I know much about or very interested in . Of the ones Radi put up I don't see anything in there that would cause great alarm...

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University of Sydney poetry professor Barry Spurr, one of the specialist reviewers of the English curriculum, has been suspended from academic duties after leaked emails showed him referring to "abos", "mussies" and "chinky-poos".  

Professor Spurr argued in his subject review that the impact of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander literature in Australia had been "minimal" and that there should be a greater focus on western civilisation in the curriculum.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/questions-over-curriculum-experts-links-to-coalition-20141022-119x24.html#ixzz3GrJjEYRT

I posted this back then Pete but obviously you did not read it. In the Changes to School Curriculum thread.

I said the same thing . That in the proposed curriculum Aboriginal studies is in all areas including maths and science . 

As there is no written history of the aboriginals what is it that our students are going to study .

Wrong, wrong senor. There is a vast amount of history written about Aboriginals although they did not write it themselves it is there, all you have to do is look.

Pete,

Not getting into the politics of this but most societies have a large body of oral history, some almost total. Most history of all societies was initially oral as one would expect.

It is a study area of mine and I do have qualifications in this area. I am also a member of an Oral History group which researches oral history and transcribes it into a written format.

How are you anyway.

Back in my box.

Take it easy.

SD

Hey Shaggy,don't go back in the box mate. Nice to see you posting.

I am well Shaggy ..I guess it depends what you call history .As I understand it The aboriginal families and languages are as different from each other as are  the different peoples of Europe . 

So there would be no common history to study , oral or otherwise.,

so to my thinking Aboriginal study should be left to those interested like yourself and not force fed across all subjects to our children .

Pete,

Aboriginal history is not my area though I possibly have a better handle on it than many.

I agree it should not be force fed or spread across the whole curriculum. Nor should any history for that matter.

A basic course, with as little bias as possible, as to the events that have led us to where we are is more my idea of presenting a country's history. If a student or person wants more that should be their own choice.

My interests would in all probability have an audience screaming for mercy after a very short period of time.

Take it easy.

SD

Rather than history with 1066 and all that , I would like to see are kids taught the devopment of western thought from ancient Greeks to Christianity to the English enliightment to democracy and the freedoms we now enjoy . I think this is essential to explain why we fight against others who seek to change it.,

ithink we should teach our children not aboriginal history per se . But an appreciation of their out of Africa journey and the differences within their societies whether the trading in the North with Indonesians and the effect of that . 

And why their societies basically remained unchanged for so long.

Spurr must indeed be the low of the lowest refering to our beloved PM Mr Abbott as "Abo lover"

Shame on him, shame.

pete , if you don't understand the topic , why try and thrash it. You might be better off moving on to topics that agree with your weird idealogy.

Pete re your comment (28/10 at 10.42am):

"Is not a subject I know much about or very interested in . Of the ones Radi put up I don't see anything in there that would cause great alarm..."

Why if this is the case have you come onto this thread to draw attention to yourself singing songs and changing the subject? That is rude, narcissistic, selfish and disruptive and you would be the first to complain if any of us did that to a thread you put up. I am not talking about conversation meandering a bit. You have deliberately kept focus on yourself and away from the topic. As I said earlier, I find this curious because you have always made such a big deal about racism and yet you say the atrocious racist and mysoginistic remarks in Spurr's emails "cause no great alarm". Really hard to know where you are coming from and what is believable in your utterances. 

Well said Gerry and Robi, it appears Pete's main reason for being on the Forum is to constantly push his own weird political agenda and talk about himself and trash anything else of interest to others.

His finding nothing to be alarmed about in Spurrs emails when this man is going to draw up Education Policies can only indicate Pete is in agreement on Spurrs utterances, hopefully Spurr is removed from any position where he can influence education of future generations.

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