Get used to the heat

surely there are no more CCD's (climate change deniers) left out there?

 

 “Global temperatures in October, as well as the entire year-to-date, were the planet's hottest on average since record-keeping began in 1880, the US government says.

It was also the 38th consecutive October in which global average temperatures were higher than the average for the 20th century, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reported.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-21/global-october-temperatures-record-high-for-month/5908038

 

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quote pete's copy / paste "Professor Ross McKitrick, however, has upped the ante with a new statistical paper to say there has been no global warming for 19 years."

Ross McKitrick is an Associate Professor in the Economics Department at the University of Guelph, Ontario, and is affiliated with various climate inaction groups.

McKitrick made a name for himself as a climate change sceptic since he co-authored the book Taken By Storm.
His background is as an economist; it shows no apparent expertise in climate science.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Ross_McKitrick

What part of this do some people miss ?

"The provisional information for 2014 means that fourteen of the fifteen warmest years on record have all occurred in the 21st century," said WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud. "There is no standstill in global warming."

That is not stalling or cooling, its getting warmer and its data not opinion or speculation.

Scientists at US-Euro Institue of Global Initiatives are working on a global temperature regulator.

Ine solution put forward is to build giant turbines I the North and South Pole and using the article winds and other natural air current flows, channel cool air throughout the globe.

Based in the same principles as your household evaporative cooling system

Have you got a reference so we can read more about it???

There is no reference Fleur just as there is no"US-Euro Institue of Global Initiatives". The child is silly,

It's OK Gerry...I knew he was talking rot....one has to humour the resident comic!!

The forecast for WA is for a less warmer summer.  No I am not a climate change denier, because I know it occurs naturally.  

Another  YLC member living in this beautiful state...so glad to hear that the forecast for WA is going to be kinder than expected!

'Global warming the greatest scam in history' claims founder of Weather ChannelTHE debate about climate change is finished - because it has been categorically proved NOT to exist, one of the world's best known climate change sceptic has claimed.04:35, Thu, Oct 23, 2014By: JASON TAYLOR          83K  1K

climate-changeAP

Climate change has been 'disproved' and polar ice is 'increasing'

John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible. 

Instead, what 'little evidence' there is for rising global temperatures points to a 'natural phenomenon' within a developing eco-system.

In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: "The ocean is not rising significantly.

"The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.

"Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).

"I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."

Re John Coleman of the Weather Channel

The current CEO of The Weather Channel, David Kenny wrote The Weather Channel was grateful that Coleman got it started 32 years ago, “but he hasn't been with us in 31 years. So he's not really speaking for The Weather Channel in any way today … I think we can all be proud of our resumes, but I would prefer people use the credentials they have today, not the credentials of three decades ago … The climate of the earth is indeed warming … The science is really clear. And I don't like our brand being associated with something that's not scientifically-based.”

http://www.desmogblog.com/john-coleman

A bit like lord bug eyes still claiming to be a lord despite the house of lords refuting his claim.

Funny the way Solomon and Aquatek seem to have identical ideas on so many things even to making similar remarks during the night that Drew removed. Maybe all Deniers are out of the same mould? or just read the same authors?

Funny how our new members come on as Libs and now both anti ?

They also have identical ideas on so many things even to making similar remarks.

Maybe all Deniers are out of the same mould? or just read the same authors?

Which new members in particular are you referring to Abby? Not strange to me that anyone would have changes their minds about the Libs once they revealed their true agendas once they got into Power, many Liberal voters have changed their minds now.

I don't think  the hen knows what she's about Viv, I have ceased to try and unravel some people's minds on this forum and just have to smile and pass them by. Some people like myself, are not rusted on anything, I support when and where necessary. To follow blindly and fall into the pit with someone is not my thing. I think I have more intellect than that.

I tend to think like kfchugo in his post below and I agree with you kfc it is pathetic as you say to pin labels on someone when they themselves do not label themselves.

I personally hate being labelled a "Lib", "Labor supporter", "Rightie" or "Leftie". I have a BRAIN, I THINK and I react to news as it comes to hand. I have no faith in ANY politician and think they are all liars and crooks by the very nature of their occupation.

Surely it is quite infantile to pin a label on someone on the basis of a couple of posts?

Hugo

The label is an attempt to dismiss the poster and opinion instead of debating the merits or otherwise of the post.

I tend to lean towards social cohesion and opportunity/responsibility for all citizens to share in pain or gain. Education and health to me are why we need govt that is for the people not sections of the people. Now if that has a label I would accept it but not the mindless comments trotted out that has no bearing on topics.

Agree with both of you, why anyone would blindly follow a particular party and accept everything they say as the truth is beyond me. Very sad that Politicians seem to lose their conciouns as soon as they attain a position of power with all the benefits that they then grab &  make the most of. We need professional Public servants as advisers  who know the workings of Goverment and elected MPs who have proved themselves in a lifetime of other careers and can be judged on those achievements and attitudes and are not brainwashed into only one way of thinking IMO.

 Aquatrek is a legend.

How does that relate to the topic??? 

And how do you know anything about Aquatrek???? He hasn't been around from well before you started on here Soloman. Looks like Gerry is right in saying you are him? 

Yes and he is going to marry Dinks :)

And they will live happily ever after in the twilight zone with you.

Aquatrek is a legend. For the simple fact that his haters are the likes of you, Gerry and the other leftist loonies. Not to forget the new clown Muchelle and Fooler

Another one????solman the yente

What is all this? I have fond memories of waterbrain...

Hahaha, just checked it and it figures. soloman=aquatrek=African bum disease.

Hmmm!

When future generations try to understand how the world got carried away around the end of the 20th century by the panic over global warming, few things will amaze them more than the part played in stoking up the scare by the fiddling of official temperature data. There was already much evidence of this seven years ago, when I was writing my history of the scare, The Real Global Warming Disaster. But now another damning example has been uncovered by Steven Goddard’s US blog Real Science, showing how shamelessly manipulated has been one of the world’s most influential climate records, the graph of US surface temperature records published by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
Goddard shows how, in recent years, NOAA’s US Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) has been “adjusting” its record by replacing real temperatures with data “fabricated” by computer models. The effect of this has been to downgrade earlier temperatures and to exaggerate those from recent decades, to give the impression that the Earth has been warming up much more than is justified by the actual data. In several posts headed “Data tampering at USHCN/GISS”, Goddard compares the currently published temperature graphs with those based only on temperatures measured at the time. These show that the US has actually been cooling since the Thirties, the hottest decade on record; whereas the latest graph, nearly half of it based on “fabricated” data, shows it to have been warming at a rate equivalent to more than 3 degrees centigrade per century.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/10916086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.html

Somebody please define waterbrain, or am I too young to understand Seths Post

Hydrosephalus... water on the brain... maybe... or simply Aquatrek.

Not wading into this discourse about Aquatrek and silly solomon who are both abusive on many occasions.... just looking at the term 'waterbrain' and Seth's comment.  

Not sure about Aquatrek being solomon... from memory, I believe that Aquatrek is an atheist and solomon is of NUTTER jewish beliefs whereby he accepts Israel specifically targeting and murdering Palestinian children.  special note: SOLOMON certainly does NOT represent all jewish people, many of which are ashamed of Israel and its murderous endeavours.

90 % of Israelis support and understand what we have to do for our very survival. The rest including the anti Semites an pretend Jews on here can go to hell

INCORRECT :90% of Israelis do not support the way Israel treats Palestine.

Solomon.... sorry old chum BUT after that comment, I have no doubt that if such a place exists, then it will be your destiny to reside there.  Don't worry the Palestinian children will not be there, they will be in that other place... I think they call it heaven.

Cheers.

 

PS.... IF (which I don't believe for a minute) 90% of Israelis support the specific targeting and murdering of Palestinian children, THEN it just proves my point that INDOCTRINATION and PROPAGANDA actually work IF, it is maintained over an extended period of time and manipulated psychologically, by those that know what they are doing.

What makes you think Seth is old ferret ?

geomac

I think Ferret is suggesting that HE is young, rather than Seth is old, maybe?

Ferret

Solomon,

Godwin is spot on.

Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is anInternet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitlerapproaches 1"[2][3]—? that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Well Twilsy. Michelle  the google Jew is an anti Semite 

So it was only a matter of time

Here we go again.

Israel has never deliberately targetted children.

Mussitate, I challenge you to produce evidence that children were specifically targetted.

Yet again, you have confused Israel's actions with those of the Communist terrorists in Malaya, who knowingly and deliberately attacked soft targets - those targets - families with young children.

Solomon,

Whatever, Micha/elle is, he is woefully uninformed.

Uninformed? Come now Twila. Your far too kind.

The words d$ckhead and schmuck come to mind. 

What is a "pretend Jew" soloman?? Is it a Jew who has a conscience? a Jew who remembers the holocaust? a Jew who does not wish to harm others as their ancestors have been harmed? a Jew who likes fair play?

Well if that's the case then - I am a "pretend Jew" and you a "meshugener"

No you're just a wannabe Jew.

Pathetic

Solomon

You really are doing jewish people a disservice as you come across as a nazi 'meshugener' which in itself is meshugener.  Your indoctrination seems to have given you stockholm syndrome whereby you do as your persecutors did to your people nearly 70years ago.  

Seventy years is a long, long time ago Solomon.... don't you think it is time to stand on your own feet and stop using these atrocities as an excuse for Israel to do the same thing as was done to the jews, as was done to MANY other groups and millions of other people, such as......Gypsies (genocide), Russian prisoners, Communists, Disabled, Homosexuals, etc.  

I don't see these groups of people emulating their persecutors.

Don't expect you to understand.

You live in lalaland with your archaic socialist dogma as your bible.

Persecution of minorities never ends. Jews are a minority in a Maas of land the Arabs consider their own. From Turkey in the North to the tip if the Arab Penninsula from Gaza in the west to the Indian ocean on the East , minorities are ripe for persecution and extrrmination.

Open your silly socialist eyes and look closer to home. aborigines in your neck of the woods, Christians in Indonesia, non Muslims (native East Malaysians undians and Chinese in Malaya, Tamils in Sri Lanka, Muslims in Myanmar....

Stop being sych a bloody idiot . You can't improve your IQ, so listen to those who know

soloman:

Make up your mind sunshine, first I'm a "pretend Jew" then a "wannabe Jew" well maaate, thank goodness not all Jews are like you, or I would label myself a "has been" Jew. So what are reform Jews???? Has beens????

Yes Jews have been persecuted, and Jews of all people should know what that feels like, yet we have people like you who feels it OK to dish out the same treatment that Hitler and his gang dished out. Times are achanging man, get with it, you're a dying breed. This is the only forum where you're allowed to spout your bulls**t, anywhere else and you'd be kicked off. Embarrassing mate, embarrassing.

The other thing is, the bad manners you show calling people who support the Labor party "leftist loonies" yet I don't see any of them coming back with things like "Rightist Ratbags" no, too well mannered, learn mate, learn. You embarrass us all and I'm talking about the Jews who read these posts. All the ones who don't think they are the "chosen ones". 

Have a nice whinging Sabbath if you can rightist ratbag. Shalom

 

 

 

Micha,

Soberly, without semantics or hyperbole, identify particular Nazi practices/codes etc. which Israel adopts against Palestinians.

Perhaps you could start with the Knesset, the Courts, Diplomatic Corps, Armed Services, Paratroopers, then universities, hospitals, schools ... etc. etc.

Good on you Micha...honest comments and I am sure very much appreciated by some!!

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