Government announces cash splash for pensioners

Pensioners receive a one-off cash payment in the government’s stimulus package.

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UPDATE: Pensioners are to receive a one-off cash payment as part of the government’s stimulus package.

About 2.5 million pensioners,  680,000 JobSeeker – or Newstart – recipients and all those receiving a Carer's Allowance will receive $750 as the government attempts to kickstart the economy in the face of the coronavirus, which has now been declared a pandemic by the World Health Organisation.

The payments will start to  flow from 31 March. 

The $17.6 billion stimulus package has wiped out the budget surplus, finance minister Mathias Cormann announced this morning.

The bulk of the package is directed at supporting more than 700,000 small to medium business nationwide and keeping about 120,000 apprentices and trainees in work.

The one-off payment to pensioners is in addition to the Age Pension increases revealed by YourLifeChoices yesterday. The fortnightly increases, including supplements, amounted to an extra $10.90 per fortnight for singles and $8.30 per fortnight for each member of a couple.

A move to reconsider deeming rates after last week’s Reserve Bank cut to official cash rates – to a record low of 0.5 per cent – is also being considered by the government.

Meanwhile, health minister Greg Hunt says that over-70s, cancer patients and pregnant women will be offered bulk-billed medical consultations via phone, video link or WhatsApp, to help contain the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

Details of the government’s $2.4 billion health plan to tackle the worldwide COVID-19 crisis were announced on Wednesday.

“This package is about preventing and treating coronavirus in the coming weeks,” Mr Morrison said.

“Australia isn’t immune, but with this $2.4 billion boost we’re as well prepared as any country in the world.

“Our medical experts have been preparing for an event like this for years and this is the next step up in Australia’s plan.”

The new Medicare payments for at-home care for coronavirus sufferers and vulnerable patients are set to take effect on Friday and will be fully bulk-billed. They will allow medical, nursing and mental health medical staff to deliver services over the phone via video conference, including via FaceTime, Skype and WhatsApp.

Those eligible include:

  • people isolating themselves at home on the advice of a medical practitioner
  • those who meet the national triage protocol criteria for suspected COVID-19 infection after consultation with national or state hotlines, registered medical or nursing practitioners or COVID-19 trained health clinic triage staff
  • people aged over 70
  • Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged over 50
  • patients with chronic health conditions or who are immunocompromised
  • parents with new babies
  • pregnant women.

 

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patti
12th Mar 2020
10:21am
Won't change my life, but may give me a little boost. Especially if the price of goods increases as it my do
Anonymous
12th Mar 2020
11:59am
Of course, it won't change no one's life. This is an admission by our Government that the poor are always in need and suffer the most during hard times. NSA should have been increased a long time ago. I pity the unemployed and it looks like this pandemic will not just literally destroy lives but will cause much hardship for the majority of Australians. China should be compensating the world for this.
hyperbole
13th Mar 2020
6:36pm
the reason they have given it to those who will be in receipt is because they are hoping they WILL spend it. Give to others who dont need it they won't.
Star Trekker
12th Mar 2020
10:27am
I have read about 2 differing amounts. $700 & $500 from different news services. Which one is correct.
leek
12th Mar 2020
10:55am
I have read everywhere $500, we will know in the next 1/2 hour or so. I will take any amount thank you.
thommo
12th Mar 2020
11:09am
nine news 11.00 am says $750 for pensioners etc
leek
12th Mar 2020
11:13am
$750- you are right! just announced
Arvo
12th Mar 2020
2:19pm
Stimulus payments to households to support growth
$750 stimulus payment to pensioners, social security, veteran and other income support recipients and eligible concession card holders. Around half of those that will benefit are pensioners.
The payment will be tax free and will not count as income for Social Security, Farm Household Allowance and Veteran payments.
There will be one payment per eligible recipient. If a person qualifies for the one off payment in multiple ways, they will only receive one payment.
Payments will be from 31 March 2020 on a progressive basis, with over 90 per cent of payments expected to be made by mid-April.
The payments totalling $4.8billion will be begin on 31 March and will be transferred automatically through the tax system.

I don’t get it. How can it be transferred through the tax system when most full pension payment pensioners stopped reporting annual income tax assessments a year after qualifying for the full age pension and the tax system does not have the pensioner’s details of bank account numbers ?????

And, I don't understand what in hell this means: ". If a person qualifies for the one off payment in multiple ways, they will only receive one payment"...WHAT MULTIPLE WAYS???....Will pensioners have to apply independently???

Does this also mean that the tax system will check how many pensioners owe the Tax and or Robo-Debt dept money and not pay them but credit the tax or social service debts????

This government really needs to come clean with their stimulus package.
Arvo
12th Mar 2020
4:06pm
"It's not for us to tell those Australians how to spend their money, but what we do know from experience is that they will spend that money and that money will encourage economic activity," Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said.

What about those on Cashless Welfare Card, aren't you telling them how and where they can spend their welfare? Hypocrite!
KB
12th Mar 2020
10:34am
We need to wait for the official announcement for the official amount for pensioners.
KB
12th Mar 2020
10:34am
We need to wait for the official announcement for the official amount for pensioners.
Dave R
12th Mar 2020
10:41am
A one off $500 is nice but it will not make any long term difference. Newstart in particular needs a permanent increase.
Tood
12th Mar 2020
11:55am
they need to lower the deeming rates substantially to match the cash rates, if they don't I won't be spending the $500 or whatever the amount is to stimulate this bloody government.
KSS
12th Mar 2020
12:08pm
Not spending the $750 will not affect the Government. Heard the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face"?

You could for example use the money to do a day trip somewhere - oh I don't know say to a bushfire area, have lunch, buy a small gift in a local store and all of that would help support tose businesses and the local economy whilst costing you nothing. And you would even have some left over for bills.

But seems you would rather let your churlishness get in the way of boosting someone else.
Tood
13th Mar 2020
9:27am
And as a great deal of pensioners are living hand to mouth I doubt they will be spending it on slap up lunches/dinners, gifts,trips, etc, but instead paying off bills, on essentials and with winter approaching keeping plenty so they can turn the heater on this year!
KSS
12th Mar 2020
11:59am
So Welfare recients will all get $750 (including those receiving the age pension and carer payments) as will those with the Commonwealth health card. Plus deeming rates will be reduced by 0.5%.

But no doubt a simple thank you will still be out of the question.
Horace Cope
12th Mar 2020
12:13pm
Are you crazy KSS? This mob would boo Santa Claus.
101
12th Mar 2020
1:05pm
Like feeding strawberries to pigs.
Triss
12th Mar 2020
5:50pm
And those snidy comments have put the three of you on the same level as the folk you're criticising.
101
16th Mar 2020
10:20am
My comment is aimed at the ungrateful, entitled Welfare recipients.
I would rather see the money going to the low income families struggling to raise kids, pay the mortgage and the myriad of other living costs.
Nothing will change for the Welfare recipients except the cry "Can we have more".
Veritas
12th Mar 2020
12:14pm
Has anyone heard if it is $750 per person or less for a couple?
KSS
12th Mar 2020
12:20pm
I think it is each person but it needs to be clarified.
Horace Cope
12th Mar 2020
12:31pm
I thought I heard it was $750 per household and that was reported in one news outlet but others are saying $750 each.
HillwoodAllan
12th Mar 2020
12:42pm
See my comment below Veritas - $750 each - straight from the PM's office>
older&wiser
12th Mar 2020
1:35pm
This is an excellent summary page - is for EACH one of couple.

https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-03/Fact_sheet-Assistance_for_households.pdf
Veritas
12th Mar 2020
2:56pm
Thank you all very much - Veritas
Karen
13th Mar 2020
12:19am
$750 a household? So as single gets $750 and one of a couple gets $375? Is that right?
Star Trekker
13th Mar 2020
9:27am
It is $750 each, if both are collecting pensions.
HillwoodAllan
12th Mar 2020
12:36pm
Should be of great assistance for many pensioners. The PM's office has released the following: "$4.8 billion to provide a one-off $750 stimulus payment to pensioners, social security, veteran and other income support recipients and eligible concession card holders. Around half of those that will benefit are pensioners. The payment will be tax free and will not count as income for Social Security, Farm Household Allowance and Veteran payments. There will be one payment per eligible recipient."

That means $1,500 for a pensioner couple. I don't know about you, but it will certainly help us out. Much better than the expected $500 for a couple.
Paddington
12th Mar 2020
7:49pm
It’s great! And good that Newstart and others will also get it.
Connie
12th Mar 2020
1:00pm
They stated yesterday about $500-00 It is now $750-00 and will start from the end of March....
McDaddy
12th Mar 2020
1:06pm
Looks like nothing more than an attempt to gather voter support.
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:25pm
Maybe kissing Albo's arse will get you slightly more but don't bet on it.
McDaddy
12th Mar 2020
1:06pm
Looks like nothing more than an attempt to gather voter support.
floss
12th Mar 2020
1:08pm
I will not be getting this hand out but i think it will be great for those that do, enjoy.
Karen
13th Mar 2020
12:20am
It will stimulate the economy due to spending, and might even feed the unemployed well for a change.
Kiwinoz
12th Mar 2020
1:12pm
Be Grateful. Every little penny helps, especially if we use it to help those businesses still suffering from the bushfires and now those coping it from the coronavirus pandemic.
Paul
12th Mar 2020
1:30pm
As this article was loading up, I wondered to myself how many negative comments I would see when I get to the bottom of the page.

Sadly, there are far too many. After a season of drought and bushfires, and now coronavirus, all of which has combined to wipe billions of dollars from individuals and businesses across the country, and caused great personal hardship to many, all some retired people can do is think about themselves.
Paul
12th Mar 2020
1:30pm
As this article was loading up, I wondered to myself how many negative comments I would see when I get to the bottom of the page.

Sadly, there are far too many. After a season of drought and bushfires, and now coronavirus, all of which has combined to wipe billions of dollars from individuals and businesses across the country, and caused great personal hardship to many, all some retired people can do is think about themselves.
BERRYUPSET
12th Mar 2020
1:49pm
Be grateful folks!$750 PLUS $10.90 PLUS increase rent allowance if it applies PLUS A POSSIBILITY of lower deeming rates!They won`t be getting that in many countries around the world!AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
Jim
12th Mar 2020
3:18pm
Spot on, I don’t care if it’s per person or per household, I will be grateful either way and I am sure it will be welcome by all recipients, and I agree with the many comments re going out and spending it either locally or in an area affected by the bush fires and the drought.
Karen
13th Mar 2020
12:23am
Already done fire victim relief direct, Jim, and still working on it - for free.... actually out of my wallet/purse.

Thanks for keeping the issue of fire victims in the public eye - with the cooler weather and fires themselves dying down, people are forgetting.... there are still people out there living in tents without water and toilet and shower, and Winter is coming.
Bakka
12th Mar 2020
2:01pm
China’s Gift To The World....just imagine the outrage and calls for compensation if this thing had spread from the US or other Western Country.
No one seems to be calling them in over this and they are “ spinning it” as if they have it now under control and calling some sort of victory.??
Those with Super best not enquire as to their current balances....You will need a lot more than $750 to compensate for this avoidable disaster.
China really needs to Clean Up It’s Hygiene Act as this is not the first time
Incognito
13th Mar 2020
12:39am
You might like to read this Bakka, ignore the title because it is about how coronavirus is a bacteria and how it possibly came about:

https://knowledgeofhealth.com/trump-halts-cdc-fearmongering/#more-2164
GOW
12th Mar 2020
2:18pm
$750! Hmm that will help with the pharmacy bills for a couple of months! GOOD GRIEF!
JoJozep
12th Mar 2020
2:46pm
To Paul,

Yep! count all the negatives you want. The amount represents 2 weeks worth of taxes the DHS FB Department is charging on top of our aged care facility fees. It's a bloody disgrace! Why are the deeming rates still above 2.5%? You couldn't get 2.5% if you tried on any stock market, let alone the 20-30% lost in value the past 4-5 weeks.

So who are bearing the brunt of these losses ScoMo? And you think the government is doing it's best? It's time to kick these parasites (LNP) out on their ear. After all, the market downturns in no way affect their perks, and pensions. Also their snouts are getting sore after snouting in the taxpayer trough for the past 7 years. When will I hear ScoMo has taken a pay cut? I bet not in my remaining lifetime. Are they spreading Colvit 19 in these troughs? Everywhere you look, The politicians are trying to appear helpful, and some are, but they're only allowed to spread gossip as if the government is doing something. In the real world, they're in easy talk mode and when it comes to payout mode, in drips and drabs.

They're going to make it so difficult to get any cash, more people will be driven to the brink than those who will get something to keep their business alive. Small business people are not used to dealing with government departments (like many pensioners are forced to), so take the government at its word. Poor bastards, they're going to learn the hard way, the majority of this cash splash is only to appease the idiot voters, who thing the government is doing something, when in reality, they're releasing in small amounts, not worth the paperwork in applying. Damn the LNP lying through their teeth at every opportunity

Any pensioners doing well from this present crisis should consider the majority left to sink or swim, relying on charity. I'm wondering if there will be a bloodbath of pensioners marching on the well to do and demanding better rights and treatment.

Remember, you get who you vote for!
FlyHigh
12th Mar 2020
3:53pm
Wow, JoJozep, did we get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? How would you have handled the financial aspects of the coronavirus pandemic? You certainly have covered what you believe are "negatives' - but I struggle to see what steps, if any, you would take to address the economy.

Very easy to point your finger and associate your political views with this matter. Surely you recall Labor's pink batts, $900 hand-outs, inability to ever be able to handle finances (either at State or Federal levels) and so many other examples??

You are a JO JOKE!
Karen
13th Mar 2020
12:25am
Easy, Fly - no personal comments.
Captain
13th Mar 2020
5:24pm
FH, during the GFC, the Libs rubbished Labor's $900 handout, now they give their own $750 handout. Makes sense somehow.

I think you need to play the facts, not the man.
hyperbole
13th Mar 2020
6:39pm
even Labor premiers think scomo is handling this fine! they are all on the same page in case anyone has noticed and all pulling together on this...
porthboy
12th Mar 2020
3:48pm
What a condescending comment - "BE GRATEFUL". Maybe if they had upgraded our public swimming pool before the last election I would be GRATEFUL for that. How grateful were those people for I'm sure the more than a $750 "be grateful and vote for us hand-out". This amount begrudgingly given and delayed as long as possible. I'm tugging at my forelock!
Ted Wards
12th Mar 2020
4:47pm
first world problems
porthboy
12th Mar 2020
3:48pm
What a condescending comment - "BE GRATEFUL". Maybe if they had upgraded our public swimming pool before the last election I would be GRATEFUL for that. How grateful were those people for I'm sure the more than a $750 "be grateful and vote for us hand-out". This amount begrudgingly given and delayed as long as possible. I'm tugging at my forelock!
Paddles
12th Mar 2020
4:14pm
I'm inclined to think that your pseudonym should be "Portnoy" as I suspect that you are tugging at the other end to your forelock!!!!!!
porthboy
12th Mar 2020
6:01pm
I won that one I'd say!
porthboy
12th Mar 2020
6:01pm
I won that one I'd say!
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:19pm
Thinking you are tugging your foreskin - Portnoy's complaint. Tx Paddles!!
Good choices
12th Mar 2020
3:58pm
If you are in transition, not working and waiting for the aged pension, you get nothing.
JB
12th Mar 2020
4:06pm
That is my situation but husband receives age pension so he will be eligible. All I can say is thank you that money will help towards wood that we buy every winter for heating . If other people aren’t happy with it you can give it to me ha ha
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:15pm
Not the Govt's fault either, Good choices, obviously you made a bad one.
Star Trekker
12th Mar 2020
11:25pm
Not true.
Where someone has lodged a claim for one of the eligible payments or concession cards by 12 March 2020,
and the claim is subsequently granted, they will also receive the one-off payment.

From

https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-03/Fact_sheet-Assistance_for_households.pdf
Wendy HK
12th Mar 2020
4:06pm
Now they are getting it.
Us, as pensioners can assure the government that we won't sit on it or leave it in the bank. We WILL spend it almost as soon as we get it thus helping the economy. Number one for us will be a trip to the grocery store to stock up.
Karen
13th Mar 2020
12:26am
True - those with little will spend it straight back into the economy.
Tood
13th Mar 2020
9:22am
I doubt many pensioners will spend it on slap up lunches/dinners, holidays etc, but use it to pay off bills and for essentials and with winter approaching to pay for the horrendous heating bills.
jzb
12th Mar 2020
4:17pm
Thank you Mr Morrison!
Chris B T
12th Mar 2020
4:35pm
Great.
Receive in 3 weeks the earliest, should help pay for Self Isolation and delivery from Coles/Woolies if still available.
The trending of this Virus at some stage it will spread around the country.
Telling everyone to "Holiday Here" has the unintended Problem Of Spreading the Virus beyond the Major Cities. Everyone can share and spread.
Spending on the Internet and avoiding normal face to face shopping would be the go.
Yes spend up but self Preservation would have to be First Priority.
Just Reality, either party would have to act in similar way.
Ted Wards
12th Mar 2020
4:46pm
Yes lets be grateful that our government is finally doing something that others are not.
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:27pm
Yes Ted - I DO agree as well.
ex PS
18th Mar 2020
8:44am
Good to see the government is not too proud to copy a Labor Party innitiative.
Full marks to SCOMO for admitting Labor got it right during the financial crissis and following suit.
Foxy
12th Mar 2020
5:10pm
.... so seriously - who really thinks that a payment of $750 is going to help "stimulate" the economy? Only places that will benefit greatly are Woolies - Coles - Utility Co's. and Telco's - OR left in the bank for emergencies!
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:11pm
where would you spend it? TAB or pokies or the boozer? I spent it on health insurance.
On the Ball
12th Mar 2020
5:47pm
Rudd's was $1000 for everyone. No means test. And it was asap, and that was ten years ago. Counting for inflation, and the already sick ecenomy, I doubt it will make much difference.
Now we should be investigating how the mega-rich will profit from the stimulus..
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:02pm
Why not refuse yours, easy!!
Incognito
13th Mar 2020
12:43am
Rudd spent $50 billion, Scomo $17, big difference. I am also wondering how the rich will benefit.
Youngagain
8th May 2020
12:34pm
Wrong, On the Ball. Rudd's $1000 was definitely NOT for everyone. I didn't get it, and my income was $0 at the time. I know of several others with $0 income who didn't get it.
Youngagain
8th May 2020
12:34pm
Wrong, On the Ball. Rudd's $1000 was definitely NOT for everyone. I didn't get it, and my income was $0 at the time. I know of several others with $0 income who didn't get it.
JoJozep
12th Mar 2020
5:52pm
Sorry for you if I hit the true spot (Flyhigh). When labour controlled the GFC crisis in 2008, everyone in Australia hardly felt the after effects. Remember, ScoMo and Co., are handing back our long term earnings in taxes imposed over the past 50-60 years, why should I be grateful getting some of my taxes back after 76 years? That Flyhigh, is totally anathema to me. Also. ScoMo and Co. have slowed down the handouts of our own money until

Why haven't we received our money earlier?. The bloody "pandemic" in China is over. We still have to wait till the 20th March? Why? The ScoMo government has acted with the speed of a diseased Ocelot or perhaps a trodden snail. In the meantime we still paid our taxes . Here is your trivial drivel. I want to address every detail as I consider your triabe is purely political, and you're one of those doing well out of this. Prove me wrong!

You stated:-

"Wow, JoJozep, did we get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? How would you have handled the financial aspects of the coronavirus pandemic? You certainly have covered what you believe are "negatives' - but I struggle to see what steps, if any, you would take to address the economy.

Very easy to point your finger and associate your political views with this matter. Surely you recall Labor's pink batts, $900 hand-outs, inability to ever be able to handle finances (either at State or Federal levels) and so many other examples??

You are a JO JOKE!"

1. "We" getting out of the wrong side of bed is erroneous. "We", I'm not part of you to start with. How do you know if I sleep? Maybe I don't need a bed and if so, my bed is double sided, so which side is good and which bad. Stupid comment.

2. What steps would I have taken to counter the pandemic? For starters. Isolated all incoming traffic for a month. What happened to the facility in the NT? is it now too small to cater for 100 or so travelling public?

3. You jump to the economy. until a week or so ago Josh the fried hamburger, was telling us the economy was up, and likely to give a surplus. Then Scomo must have been overwhelmed by the public outcry and he repented, bringing in today's restricted handout. Now he has bitten his tongue and admitted we are up shite creek! As far as the pink batts saga is concerned, I am aghast labour did not contest this at the time. Let me explain this was an attack by Abbot and Co to win the election. There was no drama at the time. Four young people got electrocuted, mostly in backyard Queensland. Why ?: because there was no control over fly by night employers, plus many homes in Queensland were Jerry built and didn't comply with regulations. Also, DIY extension builders, did their own wiring (against regulations as they were not qualified) and wiring that was laid on top of ceiling joists, became a death trap when the idiot employers went for the cheapest option of laying down foil backed insulation and then getting the poor 1-2 day apprentices to Staple ' yes Staple the material down onto the joists. Also many homes where not earthed at sheet metal roof stage, so if your floor (foil insulation ) was stapled to a live wire and you were in bare feet, you eventually became the earth after touching the roof material above your head. It wasn't labour's fault those unscrupulous get rich quick employers used these tactics.

4. "Very easy to point your finger etc", Yes it is because both Abbott and ScoMo are lying, and labour was far too kind to fight back. Remember the crisis of WW2? Who got us out of a world war we had (eventually) to have because the poms and yanks found themselves again in deep water. Yes we did our bit to win the war and that was good, but did we need to send our young men and women into battle even before the Japanese attacked us? It was labour who had the guts to save us! Anyway, why do you blame Labour for not achieving much this year? In fact your trying to blame Labour for LNP's failings. Why don't you blame the LNP? They are in government, not Labour, so they should be the ones to face the music when they stuff up! Remember, any unbiased economist will tell you the economy was in a downturn before the bushfires and Colvit 19 virus.
As far as correcting the economy, I'll leave that to the economic experts and business who all say the LNP were dragged kicking and screaming to the table to do something about the economy for the past 7 years. Even the treasurer under Howard gently objected to Abbott's leadership at the time. Howard was much tougher than labour and imposed more severe taxation. over his decade in power.

5. I wouldn't bother to call you a joke, I don't waste my time criticizing people, except where they ignore the truth. Like Napolean said:- "My greatest battle was to convince an idiot, he was one"
cat
12th Mar 2020
6:49pm
no 10 a fortnight? 2.50 to the housing trust what a load of rubbish give us a decent amount of money my car badly needs respraying after the sun has done a number on it, 3000 to do that would be nice It s a 19 year old but low mileage and very well looked after car which is just as well as I will never be able to buy a new one. I dread anything major going wrong because there is just no money to cover anything. It's nice you can have a prepayment of 1300 every 6 months but it reduces the pension by 100 a fortnight, and its hard enough to live on.
cat
12th Mar 2020
6:52pm
OK what did I miss where is this 700 coming in? I thought I read something above about 750 for carers?
KSS
12th Mar 2020
7:27pm
Yes carers are on the list of recipients of $750 if they are receiving carer payments. It is to be paid into bank accounts by 31 March. You do not have to apply for it, it will happen automatically.
Pamiea
12th Mar 2020
7:15pm
Yes even though I'm a Labor voter thru and thru I'm impressed with this initiative
Sundays
12th Mar 2020
7:23pm
Agree. I know a lot of people for whom $750 will make a real dfference
caporal
12th Mar 2020
7:55pm
Great , will be able to buy something extra !! Hoping that the cost of electricity and water will not increase !!Maybe a new tennis racket and a can of balls !! thank you Morisson !
Pammy
12th Mar 2020
9:00pm
What makes Morrison think that welfare recipients and pensioners are any more worthy to get this $750 than someone working to pay his mortgage and feed his family. The workers who are funding this give away get nothing once again. Makes a lot of sense the workers get up go to work to pay taxes for an inept government to give it to those that can sleep in and do nothing. Nothing against aged pensioners you have payed your dues but the rest should not benifit from my taxes because that made bad choices in life
sainter
13th Mar 2020
12:29pm
Sorry Pammy not everyone made bad choices,i'm about 2yrs off getting an aged pension and stuck on newstart or job seeker now,my work place closed up that wasn't my choice,at my age with medical problems it's not fun and games trying to find employment.I paid taxes all my working life over many years so don't go thinking one size fits all shoes.
Paul
12th Mar 2020
9:02pm
It's embarrassing to read some of the selfish drivel on this website. It's no wonder that young people think our generation is not worth listening to.

They have to deal with low wages, casualisation, uncertain job security, and unaffordable house prices, especially in our major cities.

And then they read that some older people think that the taxes they paid ENTITLE them to a pension.

Message to earth: the taxes you paid have all been spent. We have deficits and a $20 billion government debt.

Younger people know the truth: your pensions are paid from their taxes, not yours.
Triss
12th Mar 2020
10:27pm
Message to Paul: When those young people retire and become pensioners the new young people coming up behind them will be paying their pensions from their taxes...and so it goes on.
Paul
12th Mar 2020
9:02pm
It's embarrassing to read some of the selfish drivel on this website. It's no wonder that young people think our generation is not worth listening to.

They have to deal with low wages, casualisation, uncertain job security, and unaffordable house prices, especially in our major cities.

And then they read that some older people think that the taxes they paid ENTITLE them to a pension.

Message to earth: the taxes you paid have all been spent. We have deficits and a $20 billion government debt.

Younger people know the truth: your pensions are paid from their taxes, not yours.
Mariner
12th Mar 2020
10:00pm
No need to post it twice, mate.
Karen
13th Mar 2020
12:13am
Well - got the ex's daughter and her daughter staying with us - mid-divorce and homeless - and setting fair to resurrect what was the original quarters in the garage - but modernised and expanded.. no council approval needed since it was already approved... for a 'granny flat'.

A little cash would go a long way, considering that oldies can't get into the ceiling to lay the batts...
Incognito
13th Mar 2020
12:51am
Rudd spent $50 billion, Scomo $17, big difference, even experts are saying it is not enough to stimulate the economy.
Karen
13th Mar 2020
1:00am
Interesting... you are likely right, but it will at least provide a small hiccup.
KB
13th Mar 2020
10:41am
I would preferably have an increase with the pension. $750 is the correct amount and will commence 31st March
KB
13th Mar 2020
10:41am
I would preferably have an increase with the pension. $750 is the correct amount and will commence 31st March
Beemee
13th Mar 2020
12:37pm
OK I am on the floor roaring with laughter...what stimulus package? You are a liar Scomo and I can prove it. You are offering a mega $17.6 billion, haha what of the rest you cheapskate!
Rudd left you $52 billion stimulus.
You can't BS the majority of us, you are a crook.
Incognito
13th Mar 2020
8:25pm
Also why are they not giving it immediately so people can stock up food and toilet paper (if you can get it), seems a bit cruel to make them wait until end of the month to mid April.
hyperbole
13th Mar 2020
6:37pm
gee it would be nice to see someone be thankful they are going to get it
sainter
14th Mar 2020
10:45am
Well hyperbole i'm thankful to get the $750,but I just wonder who changed the thinking of PM Morrison, he was always saying no cash hand outs,then all of a sudden a change of mind and people on welfare are getting $750,i'm not complaining about the amount and the idea for it,who ever got in his ear certainly made an effect.
sainter
14th Mar 2020
10:45am
Well hyperbole i'm thankful to get the $750,but I just wonder who changed the thinking of PM Morrison, he was always saying no cash hand outs,then all of a sudden a change of mind and people on welfare are getting $750,i'm not complaining about the amount and the idea for it,who ever got in his ear certainly made an effect.
JoJozep
14th Mar 2020
11:05am
Hi All!

Read some posts which suggest our present full or part pensions are not paid for by the recipients and young people feel it's their taxes paying our pensions.

Can I remind the younger generation, that some 40-50 years ago till now, employers were supposed to pay up to 9% into each employees super fund. These employers were dragged kicking and screaming to pay up or face the ATO. For example, as I had a number of employers over those years, to my surprise I received a small cheque some 5 years after I had left the employer from the ATO chasing him up. It was 2 quarters of super he didn't pay in, as at the time, employers took advantage of being able to postpone payment for up to a quarter.

What, you younger people, do you think the payment of super by employers was out of their own pockets? Bulldust it was . Why do you think wages have been stagnant, and why was there rapid inflation in the early years. You guessed it, prices increased to pay the extra super. And should we not forget that many people contributed hard earned cash to add to their super. This money was meant to be invested by super funds to pay for future pensions. Problem was governments along the way looked at this pool of money as a Bonanza, paying trivial amounts to qualifying pensioners along the way but splashing out on vote winning splurges plus idiotic and ill thought out expensive war machines.

I guarantee, they squandered this money along the way, which they had no right to do. For example: $50 Billion (Lowest estimate and will double by the time it's finished) on building 12 (no not nuclear) rust buckets (submarines) made obsolete as a war machine 40 years ago. Who was the prime idiot in Defence who thought this up? Worse, what were the LNP thinking? Are we trying to compete with the Chinese? 12 subs would be lucky to stop fishing boats, let alone super cruisers, aircraft carriers and destroyers. Unlike nuclear powered subs, WW2 subs need to surface to get air. One drone spotting a periscope can drop a depth charge and destroy $4 Billion or so from our savings for about $100 worth of explosives. All in a day's work.

And wait, there is more, Some other prime dickhead in government high up decided to accept an overseas contract to build them. Few jobs for Aussies, no infrastructure, and glory to France for a windfall we needed to pay our way. Then the younger generations complain their taxes are paying our pensions. Wake up those morons who raised no objections to our cash hungry, useless Defence force, backed by a totally stupid government, trying to impress they are doing something for the country. God, people can be so stupid not to think through the implications that affect us all!

Remember what comes first in governments' minds. It's self preservation and caring for normal Australians is low on their agenda, except when it comes close to election time. Remember too, governments (Politicians) are paid for by the taxpayer. They don't generate $1 or should I say 1 cent to pay for their warm seats and perks in parliament.
JoJozep
14th Mar 2020
11:40am
My last post has raised fearsome thoughts in my mind.

What will we do if WW3 breaks out? When you see videos of warships steaming in a classic WW2 pattern, within a kilometer of each other, what would dropping a hydrogen bomb do in a flash? One bomb causes total destruction for a radius of around 20 Km, so there goes an entire Australian defence force, subs included.

It's like the Colvit19 Virus. Nothing! We just have to wait for it to pass. A vaccine might help, so with WW3 we should have clear thing and level headed people n charge to stop or prevent the conditions that make WW3 inevitable. Like the virus, once it starts, only God will stop it. The idea therefore is to examine what would cause such a calamity and take whatever steps are necessary to stop it happening.

Simple things for example. Why is there so much suffering, especially the Middle East. We all know it's the Syrian Assayed Regime with Russian support driving innocent people out of their established homes. What are we looking at? People with close borders to Syria are concerned, but only to the extent of closing their borders. This is fair enough, but the innocent civilians suffer, not the Regime. Why don't we target the Regime and the Russians or anyone else displacing people from their homes,when they bomb and arm insurgents. Why are we not looking at where these insurgents are getting their arms from? Who's cashing in on this misfortune? Who supplies the war machines?

Why does Australia send troops to the Middle East? They couldn't swat a fly in comparison to the opposition, but they do it to please their masters. Then you get a bumbling sleazy, cheating president in power unable even to read a tele prompter properly dictating pride demands we send troops, to quell the unrest. This always backfires because the opposition is smart enough to direct hatred against their rule onto the interfering invaders. So what do we do? Send our young men and women to show how strong we are (and lest we forget, die) to and please our masters.

No more, I'm realizing it's not a simple problem and I need my rest.
Julia
14th Mar 2020
4:27pm
Australia has, indeed, been a lucky country with a perfect climate for farming, huge amount of natural resources, excellent education system and plenty of employment. Unfortunately the future was not taken into account and compulsory superannuation not introduced until 1992 for future retirement and the rest of the World advanced beyond Australia. I believe Australia should have become independent after WWII and it could have thrived without having to have trade agreements with other countries. Now Australia is at a cross roads. Society shunned communism and the country became divided between liberal and labour. Labour was seen as communist orientated by the "haves" and liberal as the polite, farmer orientated party. Labour was the backbone of this Country with high employment in building, car manufacturing etc etc, Now we have a caste system with the haves and the have nots. We import massive amounts of plastic junk from Asian countries causing thousands of small businesses into bankruptcy, manufacturing (including car manufacturing) closure and now a high rate of unemployment in a Country that should be prospering. We have a high rate of homeless, poor people and aged pensioners who worked for decades before compulsory superannuation. Poverty in overpopulated third world countries is expected but in Australia, Wake up Australia. Get into the 21st Century . USA doesn't support Australia, Britain doesn't support Australia Australia needs to support Australia. Our pension payments are way higher than some countries but so is the cost of living.
JoJozep
14th Mar 2020
5:43pm
Julia, You're spot on! Thank God, a person who can think.
Julia
14th Mar 2020
10:20pm
Thank you. I am from Italian/British background and love Australia.
acepace
15th Mar 2020
2:06pm
Is this handout only for full pensioners or does it also include those on part pensions?
amigaman
22nd Mar 2020
1:07pm
So $550 / fortnight extra for unemployed, but nothing for pensioners. Figures.
Incognito
22nd Mar 2020
4:12pm
Pensioners get twice as much as those unemployed so this will help all those who are signing up to Centrelink because they lost their jobs and those already unemployed have no hope of finding work at the moment.
amigaman
22nd Mar 2020
4:35pm
Incorrect. Married couple gets $703.50 each per fortnight. Unemployed gets 2 x Dole plus an extra $1100 per fortnight. Do the sums.


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