Age Pension increases – 20 September 2016

In accordance with indexation, Age Pension rates will increase on 20 September 2016.

Increases to Age Pension rates

In accordance with indexation, Age Pension payment rates will increase as of 20 September 2016, but today, we can help you find out if you’ll receive more money as a result.

From 20 September 2016, the following pension payment rates will apply:

Maximum pension payment rates

    Previous Current Increase
Single Base $794.80 $797.90 $3.10
  Supplement $65.00 $65.10 $0.10
  Energy Supplement $14.10 $14.10
  Total $873.90 $877.10 $3.20
Couple (each) Base $599.10 $601.50 $2.40
  Supplement $49.00

$49.10

$0.10

  Energy Supplement $10.60 $10.60
  Total $658.70 $661.20 $2.50



The Pension Supplement is paid as part of certain regular fortnightly income support payments to help eligible recipients meet the costs of daily household and living expenses. Pension Supplement payments for singles remains the same at $22.70 per fortnight and couples at $18.70 each per fortnight.


Pension Supplement* basic amount

  Previous Current Increase
Single $22.70 $22.70
Couple separated $22.70 $22.70
Couple (each) $18.70 $18.70


Pension Supplement# minimum amount

  Previous Current Increase
Single $34.90 $35.00 $0.10
Couple separated $34.90 $35.00 $0.10
Couple (each) $26.30 $26.40 $0.10

* Pension Supplement basic is for those receiving a pension while overseas
# Pension Supplement minimum is for those paid a pension under the transitional rules

Planning your finances in retirement will help you decide whether you can support your ideal retirement lifestyle with or without the help of the Age Pension. Keep an eye out for our free YourLifeChoices Age Pension guide, which will be in your inbox after 20 September, and will provide you with the information you need to ask the necessary questions about your retirement income.


If you don't receive an Age Pension, from 20 September 2016, Newstart Allowance rates and thresholds will also be indexed. Find out if your payment will be affected

.

And, if you’ve just missed out on a part Age Pension due to your income or assets, indexed thresholds may mean you now qualify, so what are the new rates?





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    sirrom50
    13th Sep 2016
    7:27am
    Oh what a big increase...... $ 3.20 a fortnight. Might be able to buy half a mug of coffee.
    MICK
    13th Sep 2016
    8:24am
    Spot on. Not even a cup of coffee. Inflation is running way ahead of pension increases so pensioners are effectively getting a pension cut. Coalition governments at work.
    btony
    13th Sep 2016
    9:13am
    And the dept of housing will take 80 cents of that for those who live there, so make that $2.40
    HarrysOpinion
    13th Sep 2016
    11:40am
    Let's put this into perspective. The value of AU $1 twelve months ago is worth today 0.98 cents. This means that, a single age pension, all up with supplements, has risen to $877.10 then the dollar value of the pension today has decreased by $ 17.54 per fortnight- (0.02 per dollar)-. $3.20 per fortnight pension increase on previous base pension is only a .39% increase which is not even 0.5% of the 1% CPI increase to 30 June 2016.
    This current increase combined with 3/16 increase = a total of $10.10 pf for this year. Enjoy it and don't spend it all at once.
    Old Man
    13th Sep 2016
    12:17pm
    Oh Mick, there you go again. Please tell all of us how the pension rated against inflation in the halcyon years 2007-2013.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:27pm
    I think Ill sit down with that Beggar and hope Turnbill comes past again !! :-) I MIGHT at least get a FIVER !! :-):-) :-)
    wally
    14th Sep 2016
    10:10am
    $ 6.40 for a cup of coffee? I'd rather live within my means and spend that amount on a tin of International Roast to stay within my pensioner budget. I might even be able to make it last a month!
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:36am
    I buy a kilo of beans and have a grinder - on special for $15 at the moment in some stores.... that lasts me more than a month a bag, and it's good coffee.
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:43pm
    HS.. 3/5ths of 5/8ths is FA :-)
    dougie
    13th Sep 2016
    7:44am
    Better than none at all!
    I was happy before so why complain about the size of the increase, wages in the community are not increasing at any great rate either.
    iamnotold
    13th Sep 2016
    8:37am
    Yes, agree that it's better than nothing.
    Fliss
    13th Sep 2016
    9:22am
    Good point Dougie. So many people just want to be negative. They don't realise how their constant negative/"glass half empty" approach to everything affects their life/health.
    Fliss
    13th Sep 2016
    9:22am
    Good point Dougie. So many people just want to be negative. They don't realise how their constant negative/"glass half empty" approach to everything affects their life/health.
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Sep 2016
    10:04am
    Quite right dougie - I'm really pleased with my extra half loaf of bread every fortnight!
    dougie
    13th Sep 2016
    4:52pm
    Thanks Ductape but due to health problems I eat little bread but on the pension I can still enjoy my happy hour each day and a holiday each year. Life is good in comparison to that my parents had.I also believe that my life in my late 70s is better than my family will have in their retirement. We were born in the best time and each day I count my blessings as I wake each morning and I am still not in the obits. Live - love - laugh and be happy.
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:45pm
    Ductape .. I got the other Half Loaf :-) :-)
    Pendrey
    20th Sep 2016
    3:17pm
    You may be right, but why bother to write?
    It is a laughably small amount, it is rather insulting don't you think?
    Morrison has just given the Pensioners the finger, because he see the pension as being welfare, not an entitlement. It may be seen as welfare in 30 years time as more and more people have larger Super balances, but to a generation who believed they would receive the pension as a right, it would seem to be an insult.
    LENYJAC
    13th Sep 2016
    7:52am
    $5.00 per fortnight for a couple.wonder what talkbull gets,,probably that much per minute...bloody leech????
    Lippy
    13th Sep 2016
    8:06am
    Read today news about HOW MUCH people like him now. He was scared on election day to face the cameras but Bill was happy to say "we are back" as he knew TalkBULL will have a very hard 3 years, that's if Tony makes a comeback with his own sly policies.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:43pm
    Don't laugh but some still do like him :-) :-)
    I proved it on Twitter !!
    I wrote something Cacky about Talkbull on purpose on Twitter and lost 25 Followers :-) :-) :-) Overnight !! Well that sorted the Wheat from the Chaff !! Never laughed so much :-) :-) :-) :-)

    I'll bet that Caper trends now :-) :-)
    particolor
    20th Sep 2016
    4:20pm
    :-) :-) 2 days latter I've got 65 more followers than I had before I wrote it ! :-) :-) That says something ? :-)
    Jurassicgeek
    13th Sep 2016
    7:56am
    I can hardly wait..maybe I'll take a world trip ..or maybe buy a Jag... or maybe I'll just sit here and watch the world go by....
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:36pm
    May as well !! :-) :-)
    wally
    14th Sep 2016
    10:11am
    You could even spend up big on Lotto!
    particolor
    14th Sep 2016
    7:15pm
    Yes !! You can take 2 Squares in OZ LOTTO !! for 1 week with that Wage Hike :-) Good Luck !! :-) :-)
    Lippy
    13th Sep 2016
    7:59am
    What to buy, what to buy? 3 $1 scratchies, MAY win $50,000. Then again, if I win they will probably cut back the my pension. Can't win either way.
    iamnotold
    13th Sep 2016
    8:38am
    Only if you invest the win and earn interest on it.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:35pm
    The Interest on 50 Grand after TAX is about a fortnights Single pension ( ONCE):-) So don't get too Carried Away !! :-) :-)
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:38am
    Under the mattress... spend it on things you want....

    Yes - $50k at even 3% will only get you $1500 a year - $30 a week - they won't cop you for that....

    Now if it was $5million....
    dweezy2176
    13th Sep 2016
    8:00am
    As an OAP who doesn't drink, drive or smoke I find the current OAP just live-able so anyone who does any of those three I feel for .. reality is we are never going to get a decent rise/live-able amount so anything is better than nothing .. life 101 .. if you come back, come back as a pollie and reap the benefits of the "gravy train" ride thru life & retirement .. no effort, all reward .. LOL!
    LENYJAC
    13th Sep 2016
    8:21am
    How true Dweezy2176
    Sandymac
    13th Sep 2016
    8:26am
    I appreciate the genuine "on topic" comments on this site and find quite a few of them really valuable. However, I hate the way a persistent few use whatever is published as an opportunity to be a political party troll.

    I vote according to my own conscience as do most people.

    I'm pretty sure that the majority of readers are disgusted by the blatant party bashing comments.
    Jim
    13th Sep 2016
    9:59am
    Well said Sandymac, you are spot on, you see the same people constantly turning every topic into a whinge about politics.
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:38am
    but... but.. but... what about those of us who like a drink?
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:13pm
    yes !! Isn't it Degusting turning it into a Political Football !! Its making me feel Guilty now for voting LIBERAL !! :-( :-(

    13th Sep 2016
    9:08am
    What am I going to do with ALL THAT EXTRA MONEY?!?!
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:07pm
    Buy you a Maccas soft serve!!
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:48pm
    Up where I live you could put an Extra Litre of petrol in your car with it :-) :-) But it will evaporate before you get the petrol cap back on :-(

    :-) :-)
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    9:22am
    Don't spend it all at once --

    Bloody parasitic Bastards -- like to see them make do for a morning tea on what we get for a day
    wally
    14th Sep 2016
    10:13am
    Another bitter and twisted pensioner biting the hand that feeds..... At least Oliver Twist had the courtesy to say please when begging for more gruel.
    wally
    14th Sep 2016
    10:14am
    Or should that be gumming the hand....
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:39am
    Not 'biting the hand that feeds' - more like 'feeding over a lifetime the hand that bites'.

    Get your facts straight....
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    9:49am
    So much for gratitude. All I see here is lots of whingers who seem to have made a hobby out of it.
    Snowwhite
    13th Sep 2016
    10:52am
    Old Geezer it's obvious where your sympathies lie so if you don't like the comments on this site feel free to leave.
    Old Man
    13th Sep 2016
    11:02am
    You should know better Old Geezer, any comment that doesn't rubbish Turnbull and his lot will result in a personal attack. There are no counter arguments to debate your opinion, just abuse.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:56pm
    Got room for another WHINGER Old Man :-) :-)
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:41am
    I believe it was 'Old Geezer' who launched the first personal......

    But that kid is a simple backyard Fascist who believes that people who vote etc should not have the right to complain about the people they elect to do a job ON THEIR BEHALF, when those people singularly fail to do so.

    Lot of that going around.....
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:42am
    George Patton got it right when he said that the moment the troops stopped complaining, he knew something was badly wrong.
    ex PS
    15th Sep 2016
    6:31pm
    Not getting a pension so probably shouldn't comment BUT, I think that you Pensioners are bloody ungrateful, the ruling class swept the scraps off the feasting table so that you could have a feed and you dare to ask for more. Bring in the militia and sweep the streets clean I say.
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:20pm
    I think we got the Plate Scrapings from the Halal Feast !! :-) :-)
    TREBOR
    21st Sep 2016
    12:06am
    Bit more of the old social cleansing like Ballsup Baird is doing at the Rocks, ex PS? I'm 'ex PS, too - like working in a farken schoolyard...

    Poor people don't use harbour views and easy access to the city....
    Cranky
    13th Sep 2016
    9:50am
    This is ridiculous, how do the Government expect pensioners to survive, and further, it is about time that married couple pensioners were brought into line with all other single pensioners, and I don't want to hear, but two can live cheaper than one, what a load of bull dust, and further what about all the couples who are living in so called defacto relationships, and there are thousands of them, and they are claiming and getting paid the single aged pension and some of these people have never worked a day in their lives, and all the single mothers getting paid benefits and living in defacto relationships. Aged pensioners are aged pensioners and should all be treated the same, no discrimination, No matter how you look at it married couples are being treated like second rate citizens. I will put it another way if two brothers or two sisters or a brother and sister were living in the same house hold, they each get p[aid the single aged pension, so why are married couples any different. I am really cranky now and it is about time that all married couples banned together to get equal rights from the welfare system . I could gon on and quote further information to show that couples are being discriminated against, but I will leave it for now ($2.50) what will that buy - Max Jackwitz (Really Cranky)
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    10:05am
    Now that's gratitude for something you get for nothing. The more you get the more you want. What about us taxpayers we are the one's paying for your welfare? We not only have to support ourselves but people like you as well.
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    10:13am
    Old Geezer -- the Pension is NOT something for nothing -- we worked long and bloody hard for it -- if you don't need it then good for you but get off our case !

    These parasitic mongrels in Government could not make do on what we get a week for one bloody meal
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    10:19am
    The OAP is welfare and has nothing to do with how hard you worked or what taxes you paid etc. It is merely a payment given to old people so that they don't live in poverty. If you can't accept that then you are kidding yourself.
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    10:32am
    I worked and paid taxes just like you are doing -- it was a stipulation that once you turned a certain age you would get the Pension IF needed so get your facts straight!
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    10:34am
    I have got my facts straight so stop trying to make it out to be something that it is clearly not.
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    10:38am
    You obviously don't have a bloody clue so can't be bothered with a fool such as yourself
    cdbstock
    13th Sep 2016
    10:51am
    OLD GEEZER - PlanB is correct - The OAP is understood by taxpayers to be available to them if needed - & that's one of the reasons why we pay tax - The OAP is not a 'handout - it is a right - be reasonable, understanding & compassionate
    cdbstock
    13th Sep 2016
    10:51am
    OLD GEEZER - PlanB is correct - The OAP is understood by taxpayers to be available to them if needed - & that's one of the reasons why we pay tax - The OAP is not a 'handout - it is a right - be reasonable, understanding & compassionate
    HarrysOpinion
    13th Sep 2016
    11:01am
    Poverty line (50% of median income) – for a single adult was $400 per week, for a couple with 2 children it was $841 per week;
    Poverty rate – 2,548,496 people (13.9% of all people) living below the poverty line, after taking account of their housing costs;
    Child poverty – 602,604 children (17.7% of all children) living below the poverty line;
    Income support – 40.1% of people on social security payments living below the poverty line. Includes 55.1% of those on Newstart Allowance, 50.6% on Youth Allowance; 47.2% on Parenting Payment, 48% on Disability Support Pension, 24.8% on Carer Payment, and 15.7% of those on Age Pension;
    Unemployed – 61.2% of people who are unemployed were living below the poverty line;
    Working poor – 33.2% of people below the poverty line came from a household with wages as their main income;
    Overall growth in poverty – Poverty increased between 2010 and 2012 by nearly one per cent (from 13% to 13.9).
    Old Man
    13th Sep 2016
    11:06am
    Well put Cranky. I note that there are other bloggers who are blaming Turnbull and his lot but you could have written your complaint between the years 2007-2013 without changing a word.
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    11:11am
    I am reasonable , understanding and compassionate but I call a spade a spade. OAP is welfare that was bought in so that old people did not live in poverty. It is as simple as that.

    By the way many taxpayers live below the poverty line but are still asked to pay tax to support the welfare bill.
    Anonymous
    13th Sep 2016
    11:56am
    Technically Old Geezer is correct - the OAP has been means tested from its outset in the early 1900's - and continues to be so.

    It was designed to ensure no Australian lived in poverty - it is still designed for that purpose. The OAP is sufficient to ensure you don't go hungry and can pay your rates and utilities bills.

    It was never designed to enable someone to have a great lifestyle - it is to ensure someone with no other money does not have to live rough - but can have some dignity in their old age. Nothing more, nothing less.
    MITZY
    13th Sep 2016
    11:59am
    Cranky:
    A recipient of the new rate maximum single age pension = $877.10 per fortnight.

    A recipient of the maximum couples age pension
    i.e. the two of you - = $1322.40 per fortnight.

    This equates to a married couple receiving $445.30 more than a single age pensioner per fortnight.

    Oh how I wish my husband was alive still!

    When we were the recipients of a married couples pension we were able to survive very well (i.e. my husband on a full disability pension (he had MS) and myself, his carer. I had to retire at 55 to look after him and was not entitled to the age pension until I was 62.1/2 years. So at first we only received part-pensions due to our savings. We both worked all our lives in private enterprise with no superannuation. We just saved from what we earned. We had no children and we paid PAYE tax from age 16 to age 55 with nothing to receive or claim from government benefits all those years. The people who pay the most tax in this country are the ones who go through life single or married couples with no children. When my husband passed away four years ago, I was transferred to the single age pension.

    If you own your own home and you pay your council/water rates per quarter you have two pensions to partly pay for those rates.
    I have one - my council rates don't decrease because only one person (me) lives in that home.
    The house/contents don't decrease because one person lives in that home.
    If I turn on my lights or t.v. or air-con for cooling and heating, or gas/electric for cooking, the fact that I use these items (one person) doesn't decrease.
    If I drive my car to the shops etc. the petrol doesn't decrease because only me drives that car, and the insurance doesn't decrease either and the pink/green slips and the car service etc. is not cheaper because I'm a single age pensioner.
    If I want to keep healthy and buy good quality food, fresh fruit and vegetables etc. it may cost me more to eat than somebody who possibly buys a lot of typical processed supermarket items.
    By keeping healthy and fit the one item I manage to save spending money on is "health" insurance.
    Added to the above I have never smoked, don't gamble and for the last four years have given up the odd glass of wine I used to drink socially. My food/household items I purchase weekly were budgeted at $100 per week ($400 per month) but the last twelve months despite doing nothing different in what I consume/use, and despite the fact that Woolies/Coles keep telling us what great guys they are in reducing this and that, because of the quality purchases I make, my cost has now reached between $440 to $460 per month and a couple of times during a twelve month period, around $500 when I have family members and friends visiting and staying with me for short periods of time. I belong to Probus and the Horticultural Society (gardening club) and once a month we have lunch out after the meetings at a local club. We take day bus trips and visit gardens etc. which are subsidised by the clubs from raffles and membership fees which are negligible. I spend my time walking every morning for at least one hour before breakfast, chatting with people along the beach. I live a simple life, I'm happy most of the time. You are kidding yourself if you think you an be happy 24 hours a day, 365 days of the year.

    I am thankful for my pension but I have to work hard to budget, and stay within it, so I don't dig into my meagre savings I now have. I've never begrudged anyone who is married and receives between the two of them, more pension than I receive as a single recipient. When I type out my chart for the twelve months from January to December each year, taking into account what I spent the previous twelve months and adding a few dollars more to the various segments, I've been able to come out roughly square. However, if the fridge, t.v., washing machine etc. needs replacing then I am in the red with the budget that equals the pension I receive.

    So, per month I will be receiving $877.10 x 2 = $1,754.20
    If you receive the maximum couples age pension then you will receive $1,322.40 x 2 = $2,644.80.

    You will receive $890.60 per month more than myself.

    With that difference how can you dismiss the statement that two can live cheaper than one and call it bull dust.

    If I wanted to whinge about my single age pension I could easily say that since I lived and worked in a era of no superannuation benefits until the last few years before forced retirement at 55 (I received $8,300 in a lump sum) and at age 55 due to my savings didn't receive a full pension until 62.1/2 years, and as I paid PAYE tax from age 16 to age 55 and didn't claim any tax benefits such as family allowance, baby bonus, etc. and come from the category of taxpayers that are either single or married with no children, and are the greater taxpayers in the system, maybe I should be receiving a pension as large as yours.
    However, that will never happen, so be happy with the fact that you receive $890.60 per month more than I do.
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    12:17pm
    Well stated Cranky!
    Now you have made me cranky!
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    12:34pm
    Well Old Geezer you call the OAP welfare tell that to all your wealthy mates who stash their assets overseas etc so they can still claim a part pension, what do you call them?.
    Anonymous
    13th Sep 2016
    12:40pm
    MITZY - I often wonder if someone in their late teens had paid attention to how the OAP works and how much someone actually gets paid - instead of assuming how it works and how much you get - what they would have done in their 20's about their retirement - regardless of superannuation not being available.

    For example, if someone and their partner at age 20 just decided not to spend a measly $10 per week, save it and compound it at a very low 3% for 45 years - that couple would have over $50K for their retirement.

    If you worked harder at investing that $10 per week and got 5% compounded over 45 years - that person would have $180K for retirement!

    Very few Australian's could not find $10 per week to save for their retirement - BUT very few Australians bother to pay attention to their retirement until it is too late.

    Your young self has to look after your old self if you want a better retirement - but few Australian's really get that - and do retirement on the OAP much harder than they should.
    MITZY
    13th Sep 2016
    2:49pm
    Reasons: You're just stating hypothetically what you could save all things being equal. And as we all know, no two persons' circumstances are the same. We did save but from 55 to 62.1/2 we used are own savings to survive because we only received a very small government pension. At age 55 (my husband same age) was in an advanced state of MS and needed a lot of aids and equipment including an electric wheelchair and a mobility vehicle to get around and before the mobility vehicle mobility taxis etc. These items are expensive and when you sell them later you get nothing for them. To have a quality of life so that you can not depend on government services you dip into your savings to buy these items. There are many other costs as well, including physio, specialists, medications, funeral costs etc.

    Now, take me for instance, at 16 when I joined the Tax Office as a junior clerk in 1958 I had only been in Australia for three months. My parents and an 8 year old brother and myself migrated to Australia late 1957 and my parents had to rent a property to live in, find jobs, put my brother into school with all the costs involved for uniforms and equipment and they couldn't get me into a job quick enough to take my weekly pay packet from me to contribute. My father had a massive heart attack when my brother was only 12 and my mother decided to go back to her homeland as she found it all too hard to cope here. At 20 I decided I wanted to stay here and of course I then had to find accommodation and pay my own way with no savings behind me. I completed a night course of shorthand and typing which I had started to learn at school before migrating and while still at the Tax Office gradually had a decent wage and could start to save. I then had to send my mother money every fortnight from my wages to help her cope to bring up my brother. She was a very unwell person mentally and worked on and off.
    In 1965 I got married and for two years after paying for a modest wedding ourselves, renting a flat, we had saved enough to purchase more than half the cost of a block of land and another two years later we had enough for a deposit on a newly built home. We had nearly paid off the home when my husband's parents at 89 years and 78 years of age couldn't look after themselves and we had to renovate to attach a granny flat to our home to accommodate them. They paid for the cost of the granny flat but in so doing we had to renovate the whole back section of our home to adjoin. Coping with a husband with MS for 26 years and his parents for ten years before they had both passed away, I wouldn't wish on anyone, but that is what you do to be a good person and help others. My husband's sister said to me at the time "I don't know why you are doing what you are doing, I wouldn't do it, and you are doing it and they are not your parents."
    I'd rather be me than her!
    I'm not complaining about the age pension, I manage, as you can see from what I have written above, the reason I commented on the difference between the single and the married couples pension is that I've seen this written before where the married couple are complaining because they get less pension "each" and want the same as the single pension "each". However their two pensions per month give them $890.60 combined more than a single aged pensioner receives and I did say I am happy with what I receive.
    For the past four years of commenting here, I rarely judge a person's circumstances, because you and I don't really know that person's circumstances. There is a thousand other circumstances and reasons for my and others end results among mine the loss of invested funds after September 11, and a further downturn with the GFC. Whatever meagre savings I have I wouldn't have the guts to invest it and a small amount over and above my pension sits in my bank account for emergencies and a small amount in a term deposit. Tell me how could my young self look after my old safe better than I have? I'm 75 this month and I guess if the cost of living gets higher and higher as it will, and the pension doesn't stretch, I can always sell my house and rent or even "heaven forbid" take out a reverse mortage on it. One really doesn't know one's "use-by-date" so I just keep being very very careful with what I've got and once again I am thankful for my OAP.
    Cheers.
    ex PS
    15th Sep 2016
    6:37pm
    I can't believe that the old chestnut about the Pension being welfare has been resurrected yet again.
    Part of the argument has been " It is not automatically given to everyone so it is not a right" well that just means to me that those who are on the Pension are on it because they have passed the Assets Test, therefore it has automatically become their right.
    Not that it matters what some people choose to call it as the majority of the population agrees on what it is.
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Sep 2016
    9:56am
    Oh my God! I'm right out there booking my next world trip this afternoon!
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:15pm
    This made me lol....Where we going??? to the border....:D .. Also i might add the price of power?, least give us $20 it might make a small dent!!!!!
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:15pm
    This made me lol....Where we going??? to the border....:D .. Also i might add the price of power?, least give us $20 it might make a small dent!!!!!
    Mamacrystal
    13th Sep 2016
    7:54pm
    Pension Tension....if you live in Victoria or New South Wales, look at Powershop and do comparisons with what you are paying....you may be better off
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:45am
    Need a $3.20 middy at the cub to celebrate.....
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    8:56pm
    :-( Well that's yours gone for another fortnight !! :-) :-) A Mouthful of beer ! :-) :-)
    Polly Esther
    13th Sep 2016
    10:09am
    I'm grateful for small mercies, always better than a kick in the bum. :-)
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    9:00pm
    Only ever got one of those :-( :-( :-( Off a Cop 60 Years Ago !! :-) :-)
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    10:09am
    Social services minister avoids challenge to live on $38 a day

    https://startsat60.com/stories/news/social-services-minister-avoids-challenge-to-live-on-38-a-day
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    5:09pm
    I don't blame him as he has a job to do so his pay has nothing to do with the OAP.
    Farside
    13th Sep 2016
    6:41pm
    Leading with chin OG, too many on these forums seem to think OAP entitlement is something more than a safety net.
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:49am
    He can still do his job - he is simply being asked to live on $38 a day....we'll pay his fares there and back from home, and then....

    Let's dump him and a dozen of his cohorts in Cambra, and they can bring their lunch to Parliament, walk there, and after sitting find somewhere to live and eat on $38 a day.

    Not that hard. My only stipulation is they do it for a month and not a week so they get the message loud and clear.

    I think it's only fair that they only eat on that much for a month in advance so they can start at a reasonable level on the unemployed playing field, trim off the fat that could carry them through a cold night etc.
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:50am
    "Leading with chin OG, too many on these forums seem to think OAP entitlement is something more than a safety net. "

    Wrong, Brian - we KNOW it is more than that - and it's been proven so many times I won't repeat it.
    TREBOR
    21st Sep 2016
    12:09am
    I'll venture to say it's far more of an Entitlement that the politician's pension scheme - we actually put a significant amount in over the years, and, unlike politicians etc, we don't get a hefty extra added.

    We paid for ours - they pay a tiny bit of theirs.
    etrangere
    13th Sep 2016
    10:14am
    I am off to monte carlo and in too the casino
    MITZY
    13th Sep 2016
    10:53am
    And, etrangere - when I read your sentence and you mentioned monte carlo I thought you were off to the supermarket to buy a packet of those "monte" biscuits to have with a glass of water! haha
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    7:05pm
    You could be entitled to go on a tax payer funded chopper to Monte Carlo. Speak to Bronwyn she can arrange it for you
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    9:03pm
    Monty Carlos are on SPECIAL at Coles this week !! :-)
    Cranky
    13th Sep 2016
    10:45am
    Well, Supremely grateful as I am , I have figured if I put the $3.20 per fortnight down as a deposit for a cruise it will take um...er... not good with figures but it will take a lot more time to pay off than I have time on this earth..
    So I'm going to save hard for the cinema at Christmas instead.
    Foxy
    13th Sep 2016
    10:47am
    Wow - you sound like fun!! Can I come to Monte Carlo with you? :-)
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    12:15pm
    Lets all go to Monte Carlo and take old Geezer with us I think he could do with a holiday it might give him a different perspective on things.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    11:04pm
    Don't think so :-(
    Anonymous
    16th Sep 2016
    8:34pm
    OG is a ''she''. Her name is Bonny. She was sprung for contradicting herself and exposing her nasty nature so she changed her name.
    particolor
    16th Sep 2016
    8:58pm
    Don't care who they are They are on the Liberal Party Pay Roll !! And they can tell their Capitano thanks for the 1 Buck 20 a week "RAISE" after Housing Dip !! And waiting 6 Months for it and a further 6 moths now for something similar !! :-(
    ollie48
    13th Sep 2016
    11:03am
    wake up all pensioners,=labour got us the pension,this lot wants to cut it plus medicare.gives us a paultry few shillings,when giving themselves $40,000 pay rise.why vote for this lot when they hate the non working class,and keep changing the rules for their own benefit.
    Golfer
    13th Sep 2016
    1:52pm
    The Labor Party should therefore have OPPOSED the legislation instead of SUPPORTING IT.
    So clearly Labor also "hate the non working class" .....perhaps even more because they could have prevented the unfair proposal.
    ex PS
    15th Sep 2016
    6:42pm
    And any other time the ALP would be criticized for blocking mandated legislation. I believe the Labor party should pass all of Malcolm's legislation, it give them enough to hang themselves and punish the idi the voters who gave them another chance to screw us over.
    Old Man
    13th Sep 2016
    11:12am
    Well, it could have been worse. According to the Labor trolls on this site, pensioners are going to lose their pension altogether.
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    12:18pm
    But not the wealthy Old Man, who can afford accountants and financial managers to put their assets where they don't count and so can claim a part pension along with all the benefits, Health Card etc.
    Old Man
    13th Sep 2016
    12:30pm
    Sorry Misty, what does your post actually mean? Are you saying that poor people will not get a pension but rich people will?
    Roscoe
    13th Sep 2016
    11:13am
    One is being led to believe "the old geezer" is going senile or is he just being a staunch small liberal who beats the drum when mal speaks. If that's your line of thinking you are rating the People who helped build this Country over the last fifty plus years at a rate lower than the new migrants, lower than the people in detention centers and lower than prisoners. Your a bloody Moron or a would be politician.
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    12:32pm
    True!
    particolor
    14th Sep 2016
    8:04pm
    WHOO HOOO !! :-) :-)
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:52am
    OG is a teenager on the dole and a troll. Certain things about his style point in that direction.... even his chosen name.
    ex PS
    15th Sep 2016
    6:45pm
    I guess it had to be said.
    bandy
    13th Sep 2016
    12:23pm
    I agree with you sandymac same lot whinging.
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    12:30pm
    A "couple" means if you are living together whether married or not I was led to believe.
    Is that true because it was true when an unmarried mother was living with a man regardless of who paid the bills in the past.
    I do not know if that is still applicable but it ought not to be because even married couples are independent financially in many cases these days.
    In the past, one had the despicable situation where Social Security would visit your address unannounced to check it all out would you believe! Deplorable!
    Good point about brothers and sisters in the same home, Cranky and this is what , AND the ONLY way that people can live on Newstart to share a cheap house and pool their resources into a communal based form of living.
    Blondie
    13th Sep 2016
    12:36pm
    Mitty: I found your post interesting, and helpful, so many thanks! I lost my husband recently, and my pension reduces to the single amount.Centrelink gave me a not inconsiderable amount, which helped with the funeral costs, and I have a small amount from super, which I am using to pay out my mortgage. I intend to be careful with my outgoings....I certainly hope I don't need a large outlay for appliances, and the car is relatively new, and only used for shopping and visiting. My husband had no super, myself, very little, as we are the pre baby boomer generation, I believe, called:' The Builders'! Losing a partner after 53 years of marriage, is difficult....having to reinvent yourself as a single person.....friends are important, activities, but the nights are lonely, but I have my little cat, for company. I wish all seniors well...I enjoy reading your contributions! Stay well!
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    2:02pm
    I do sympathise with you Blondie, it is almost 2 years since I lost my husband of 50 years and even though 2 of my sons live with me( they are single ) and I belong to various organisations there is a special type of loneleness that goes with the loss of a loved partner that can never be replaced, some days and nights are better then others but hopefully things will get better with time or so every body tells me.
    MITZY
    13th Sep 2016
    3:08pm
    Thanks Blondie although I'm not sure if it is my post you are referring to or Misty's? Your comment about your current circumstances is so much like my own. I hate the night-time too. I was married for 48 years but the last 26 years was very taxing looking after my husband with MS and his ageing parents. We do what we have to.
    Regards.
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    7:44pm
    Mitzi I think Blondie was referring to your comments not mine as your post was much earlier then mine was.
    sticko
    13th Sep 2016
    12:37pm
    WOW, THANKS FOR THAT. NO MORE FREE ACROD PARKING AT HOSPITALS, NO HELP FROM HUGS (COMMUNICARE) I CAN SEE SUICIDAL TENDANCIES HERE AND HOMES LOST AS THERE IS NO WAY I CAN SURVIVE ON THIS PENSION AT THE RATE OF UTILITY INCREASES.
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:37pm
    yeah its tuff , electricity is now a luxury 20yrs ago you would have 5 lights on , heater whatever.....Thanks for the privatization idiots
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    4:55pm
    You know that privatisation is in fact a conspiracy which was introduced in the early 80's. It was developed by quite a team of yanks who convinced our government at the time that governments should not be operating utilities. They also convinced those idiots of the time that privatisation would would increase competition which would result in cheaper commodities. They conveniently forgot to tell our pollies that the profits would go to a select hand full of overseas investors. This is fact
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:55am
    Privatisation is my leaving my car with a mechanic while I am away, and I come back to find he's put a different motor in it that runs at three times the fuel consumption for the same performance.....
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:55am
    .. plus I have to pay a daily fee to rent it.....
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:32pm
    I've put my Cat on Rations !! Half an Anchovy on half a cup of Boiled Rice !! :-(
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    12:48pm
    Hi guys! Been Reading the forum comments.
    For those of you who are still employed I say good luck to you because it tells me you are still young and therefore do not have any comprehension of what it is like to having to survive on a pension. Some might say, "well that's your fault for bad planning" but, you need to take everyone's life's circumstances into consideration. If you are incapable of having an open mind on this issue then you are not really qualified in making comment nor do you have a right to make comment.
    Now the actual subject on hand! Is the old age pension a welfare payment or is it a right? For those of you who lack the history knowledge as to how the old age pension originated I will take you back in time. The Old ag pension was initially legislated in 1909. It was passed by our legislators to reward the aged people for "services rendered to our country". It became a"right". During that time the legislation also added the disability pension to assist those who couldn't contribute financially to both the country and their families. These were the first Social Services pensions to be legislated and, personally from I commend those legislators from that era in recognising the citizens for their efforts. Very much unlike the attitude of our current legislators and citizens of today.
    Now, because we were a young country and there weren't too many older people, the funds that were put aside became a very healthy sum indeed. Well the government in the 1920's decided to return those funds into the government coffers. Bye Bye pension fund. An selfish and short term thinking action not dissimilar to our current scummies. What those imbeciles failed to realise at the time is that the many of the young of a very small population disintegrated into oblivion because of the murderous slaughter of the first word war. The result being that it left Australia with an early but aging population but, it doesn't stop there. We then had the second World war and many more young people died. Now, I am only talking about Australia here. Now we have more older people in Australia to take care of. Both World wars had a massive impact on collecting future revenue because those who could contribute sacrificed their lives on the battle field or, suffered debilitating wounds that many could not recover from.
    Shortly after those wars legislation was then introduced to provide support for bearing and raising children. This was called Child endowment. Australia desperately needed to increase its population and preferably, at that time with "White people". This later became the White Australia policy. By the way, Australia and the world in the early 30's also suffered the worst recession ever recorded and hundreds and thousands were out of work. In the very early 50's Australia went to war again in Korea. Then again Vietnam. Where is this all leading to?
    Well, first off I want to remind everyone that the old age pension was a constitutional right that was set in concrete by our fore fathers in 1909.
    The men and women that were left behind after those horrendous years of wars which destroyed our younger future generations supported our aged people by working hard to rebuild an restock our country and paying their taxes. They did this valiantly and without complaint. They were the back bone of the great country that we now live in today.
    I want you guys to reflect back on what I said earlier with respect to the availability of Social Services funding of that era. Now compare the Social service benefits and other government funded handouts that the snot noses of today receive from the tax payers. These are the very blighters who winge about supporting our aging community and, unlike our current retirees did not have access to the employer paid Superannuation schemes because it didn't exist until 25 years ago.
    My point? Get off their case and find something else to winge about. The aged folk of today were the very ones who carried the burden of not only losing their sons and daughters from war but surviving the worst recession in history and by paying heavy taxes to rebuild this country of today.
    If you you are the professional winger of "wow is me" I suggest you attack the very morons who have brought this country to its knees. Criminal mis management of bullions upon bullions of tax payer funds by the public service and the scummies. Criminal mis management over 50 years. Also take a good look at the financial taxpayer funded benefits that you guys get today compared to the tax payers of yester year and, who also contributed to paying taxes for your generous and obscene entitlemenrs prior to their retirement.
    The generation of today are the most despicable selfish mongrels that God has created.
    Suggest you learn the history of our country and the sacrifices that that generation and those who currently survive today had to make just so you can enjoy your selfishness..
    If you are the future of Australia I fear for the future of our country.
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    2:52pm
    I thank you Johno -- you stated the very truth -- thank you thank you.

    And BTW Old Geezer -- Pensions still pay tax -- GST
    Joy B
    13th Sep 2016
    5:50pm
    I did not know this and appreciate the background/history. Thank you.
    freed1948
    13th Sep 2016
    6:03pm
    Thanks! Old Geezer and others, including Pollies, forget that.
    particolor
    16th Sep 2016
    7:50pm
    Good One Johnno :-)
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    12:48pm
    Hi guys! Been Reading the forum comments.
    For those of you who are still employed I say good luck to you because it tells me you are still young and therefore do not have any comprehension of what it is like to having to survive on a pension. Some might say, "well that's your fault for bad planning" but, you need to take everyone's life's circumstances into consideration. If you are incapable of having an open mind on this issue then you are not really qualified in making comment nor do you have a right to make comment.
    Now the actual subject on hand! Is the old age pension a welfare payment or is it a right? For those of you who lack the history knowledge as to how the old age pension originated I will take you back in time. The Old ag pension was initially legislated in 1909. It was passed by our legislators to reward the aged people for "services rendered to our country". It became a"right". During that time the legislation also added the disability pension to assist those who couldn't contribute financially to both the country and their families. These were the first Social Services pensions to be legislated and, personally from I commend those legislators from that era in recognising the citizens for their efforts. Very much unlike the attitude of our current legislators and citizens of today.
    Now, because we were a young country and there weren't too many older people, the funds that were put aside became a very healthy sum indeed. Well the government in the 1920's decided to return those funds into the government coffers. Bye Bye pension fund. An selfish and short term thinking action not dissimilar to our current scummies. What those imbeciles failed to realise at the time is that the many of the young of a very small population disintegrated into oblivion because of the murderous slaughter of the first word war. The result being that it left Australia with an early but aging population but, it doesn't stop there. We then had the second World war and many more young people died. Now, I am only talking about Australia here. Now we have more older people in Australia to take care of. Both World wars had a massive impact on collecting future revenue because those who could contribute sacrificed their lives on the battle field or, suffered debilitating wounds that many could not recover from.
    Shortly after those wars legislation was then introduced to provide support for bearing and raising children. This was called Child endowment. Australia desperately needed to increase its population and preferably, at that time with "White people". This later became the White Australia policy. By the way, Australia and the world in the early 30's also suffered the worst recession ever recorded and hundreds and thousands were out of work. In the very early 50's Australia went to war again in Korea. Then again Vietnam. Where is this all leading to?
    Well, first off I want to remind everyone that the old age pension was a constitutional right that was set in concrete by our fore fathers in 1909.
    The men and women that were left behind after those horrendous years of wars which destroyed our younger future generations supported our aged people by working hard to rebuild an restock our country and paying their taxes. They did this valiantly and without complaint. They were the back bone of the great country that we now live in today.
    I want you guys to reflect back on what I said earlier with respect to the availability of Social Services funding of that era. Now compare the Social service benefits and other government funded handouts that the snot noses of today receive from the tax payers. These are the very blighters who winge about supporting our aging community and, unlike our current retirees did not have access to the employer paid Superannuation schemes because it didn't exist until 25 years ago.
    My point? Get off their case and find something else to winge about. The aged folk of today were the very ones who carried the burden of not only losing their sons and daughters from war but surviving the worst recession in history and by paying heavy taxes to rebuild this country of today.
    If you you are the professional winger of "wow is me" I suggest you attack the very morons who have brought this country to its knees. Criminal mis management of bullions upon bullions of tax payer funds by the public service and the scummies. Criminal mis management over 50 years. Also take a good look at the financial taxpayer funded benefits that you guys get today compared to the tax payers of yester year and, who also contributed to paying taxes for your generous and obscene entitlemenrs prior to their retirement.
    The generation of today are the most despicable selfish mongrels that God has created.
    Suggest you learn the history of our country and the sacrifices that that generation and those who currently survive today had to make just so you can enjoy your selfishness..
    If you are the future of Australia I fear for the future of our country.
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    1:55pm
    Just because they are employed does not mean these workers are young, my husband worked until he was 70 and many self employed people work until an even older age.
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    3:39pm
    That's correct Misty.
    Even though I have osteoarthritis in my neck and lower back, I am working one nursing shift per fortnight with Work Bonus in order to have a decent standard of living whilst renting and I am in my late 60's!
    It is immoral for politicians to pat themselves on their backs with a hefty salary increase whilst age pensioners are forced to struggle on a much lower standard of living than previously as professionals with degrees or otherwise!
    Shame!
    Ayin
    13th Sep 2016
    12:58pm
    I am alive and very grateful for that and any increase to the OAP thank you
    Cooky
    13th Sep 2016
    1:43pm
    OLD GEEZER- I hope YOU don't put your hand UP for the Old Age Pension, YOU wont be able to sleep at night..hehe
    Jannie
    13th Sep 2016
    2:10pm
    $40,000 per year increase for pollies and pensioners $83-20 per year BIG DIFFERENCE
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    2:57pm
    Jannie can you explain the $83.20 per year that Pensioners get extra please.
    Rodent
    13th Sep 2016
    3:25pm
    Plan B, with apologies to Jannie

    It appears that it is the $3.20 PF increase for a single pensioner x 26 =$83.20
    Rodent
    13th Sep 2016
    3:25pm
    Plan B, with apologies to Jannie

    It appears that it is the $3.20 PF increase for a single pensioner x 26 =$83.20
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    5:06pm
    Pollies pay has nothing to do with OAP. Pollies did a job for their pay whereas OAP get it without having to do anything. Big difference here so you can't expect to compare them at all.
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    7:49pm
    What about all the wealthy people getting a part pension Old Geezer due to accountants/financial advisors parking their money where it doesn't count so they are eligible, do you think they are worthy welfare recipients?.
    Anonymous
    13th Sep 2016
    8:59pm
    Misty - what about the poor pensioners 'hiding' all their money in their homes?

    They might not have any money in the bank etc, but their houses are often worth considerable money these days.

    What is the difference if someone hides money in the Cayman Islands - or in full view in their home.

    Both are having a lend of tax payers.
    Misty
    14th Sep 2016
    2:56pm
    People have to live somewhere Reasons so why not stay in their own home especially if it is a modest one, maybe if it is worth a few million then I agree some sort of means testing for the family home should happen.
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    12:00pm
    Every Pensioner did their job for fifty years and more.

    I'd hardly call what the politicians have done to this country for the past forty years 'doing their job'.
    floss
    13th Sep 2016
    2:41pm
    Be fair it is all about sharing with our new arrivals.Just because you have worked for the the last forty years or so and have paid a huge amount of tax does not intitle you to as much as them.The cake is only so big and if more and more want a slice the slice must get smaller.More immigration is a must ,look how much Australia has improved just ask Prime Minister.
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    3:21pm
    Yes I agree. But look at another contribution to our country with our new arrivals. We are also contributing to the major overseas corporation share holders who are making massive profits by look ing after the new arrivals. Those corporations are paying massive taxes back into our economy. Errrrrrr aren't they????? Of course they are. They are honest people. Aren,'t they??????
    particolor
    14th Sep 2016
    7:45pm
    Go and have a look at what the Muslum "Migrants" are doing on the Highways in Austria !! OMG !! Is that for real ?? :-( :-(
    PlanB
    13th Sep 2016
    2:54pm
    Don't get me wrong I am VERY grateful for the pension I get -- but it still doesn't excuse the extent of money WASTED every day by these silver tails pollies on thing that don't even matter
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:05pm
    I'm not its an insult $3 i could get more Pan Handling infact i prob should lol
    Gammer
    13th Sep 2016
    2:55pm
    MITZY - like you I am a widowed, single pensioner. Your statements regarding the differences between a couples aged pension and that of a single person are well stated - so many couples forget that we singles still have all the vehicle and household expenses (rates, insurance, maintenance, etc) that they do but have less pension with which to pay for them. I get so cross when those in coupledom hit out at we singles just because we receive a little more than the individual members of a couple; apart from anything else, what value do you put on having a loving partner with whom to share your later years - it's damned lonely living on your own with nobody to turn to if you are sick or need a hand!
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    3:21pm
    The figure stated in the table for couples.....is it for each person of the couple if both are claiming or is it the combined figure for both as a couple?
    Rodent
    13th Sep 2016
    3:58pm
    Mez the table for couples says EACH member of a couple, and that's how the $ add up correctly
    Hairy
    13th Sep 2016
    3:01pm
    Hey every time you turn around some one has their hand in your pocket levy for this levy for that transurban now charging commercial on private RVs and Utes.so what do you do I drive round I'm a pensioner I got plenty time.i didn't expect much from this thieving game Changing government.malturd is a disgrace to this country muzbutt billy as well and the greens we'll have you ever seen so many Crazys in one party all at the same time.We need someone like Dueterte no whanking around truth straight to your face and does what he says and clean up our great country of the bleeders the whiners drugs criminals terrorists deport them all if they not Aussie shoot them and clear the jails for the next lot.if we don't clean up our gene pool the human race is doomed and while we are at it limit births there are too many people on this world has been for the last 20years there is not enough resources for the population we have.also do you realise how much dog food is sold on this planet while there are starving kids all over the world.and overweight people don't let me get started on that hehehe
    particolor
    21st Sep 2016
    8:32pm
    Please "Carry On" it was getting Interesting !! TRUE :-) :-)
    It beat reading that Media Guff and Untruths :-)
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    3:08pm
    Hello again. My my the singles are doing it tough are they? I only receive half a married couples pension which is approx. $200.00 less than a single persons pension and I have two kids to raise, schooling etc. Try that. And to boot no other benefits to assist. Just in case you wonder, no I do not have assets above the threshold. In fact way below it.
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    3:08pm
    Hello again. My my the singles are doing it tough are they? I only receive half a married couples pension which is approx. $200.00 less than a single persons pension and I have two kids to raise, schooling etc. Try that. And to boot no other benefits to assist. Just in case you wonder, no I do not have assets above the threshold. In fact way below it.
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    3:25pm
    Does your other half also receive the same?
    Not Senile Yet!
    13th Sep 2016
    3:17pm
    Time to STOP Voting for Party Puppets & Cardboard Cutout Politicians......because they refuse to Stand Up for the Pensioners.....who financed every piece of Infrastructure we currently enjoy.....including Private Enterprises who made a Profit from them as well!
    Time the Aged Pension was tied to Mp' s payrises.....maybe then they will STOP BEING SO GENEROUS TO THEMSELVES!
    I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A PARTY EVER AGAIN!
    They keep doing secret deals that suit them Not the General Public!
    SACK THE LOT....DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR VOTE!
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    3:23pm
    Good ideas!
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    7:53pm
    So who do you vote for then?.
    PlanB
    14th Sep 2016
    7:46am
    Vote for the Independents Misty
    Misty
    14th Sep 2016
    2:58pm
    Unfortunately Independents on their own cannot make a big difference that is the Westminster System of government.
    Val Tither
    13th Sep 2016
    3:21pm
    What an insult to Seniors, I wonder what the Politicians would say when they have their next pay increase, your about to have a massive rise of $3.20 a fortnight, what a B joke.
    Cranky
    13th Sep 2016
    3:44pm
    Most single aged pensioners whinge that they are not getting as much as couples, well let me just point out that when they were married and before they became single what did they do with their extra money. I still say a pensioner is a pensioner and all should be treated the same, most live independent lives anyway. I saw one person mentioned that he worked until he was 70, well I worked until I was almost 76. All I ask is for the same treatment as all other pensioners. I am disabled and can hardly walk but I wish to be independent, not to have some one look after me. I also have to buy medicines and other odds and ends. At the moment I exist on about one and a half meals a day because I can't afford to buy what I would really like. As I said in previous comments all pensioners should be treated the same. At least I am prepared to put my name to my comments, not like the others who criticise the married couples, but say nothing about those living together and getting the single pension. Pension increases should be linked to inflation not to the C P I. If pension rises were linked to Inflation all pensioners would get increases of between $9.00 and $20.00 a fortnight, and as one commentor stated our pension rises should be linked to those of Politicians. - Max Jackwitz ( Cranky)
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    4:07pm
    Well said young lady. As I mentioned earlier I have a lovely wife who is classified as being too old to work, cannot get any form of government support of any description and we are raising two school kids who also don't receive government funding. We all live off of my 1/2 a married couples pension. I must add that I live now in Thailand just put my comment into perspective
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:04pm
    Christ i can go buy a chip!......try make it $20 or something
    DINGOPOO
    13th Sep 2016
    4:06pm
    Pension goes up 3 bucks, but my tin of pipe tobacco went up another 6 bucks. A false economy by both Governments, because if l give up my pipe l am going to live much longer, according to all the pundits, and they will have to pay me the pension all that extra time. I think it would be better to make tobacco cheaper so us pensioners can kill ourselves in our only pleasure.
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    4:12pm
    Hahaha. You kill me with your comment. I too smoke and I have had the same thoughts. Maybe we should give up and live longer just to p.......s the bastards off.
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    5:03pm
    Tax grabs of any sort annoy me no need for it, hitting the people who don't deserve it un-Australian.., i feel like we are in Nazi Germany times lately!... Let and let live i say..why do they want to make folk suffer financially, I have a mentally ill friend that smokes, and he needs/enjoys them, life is hard enough for him, take away his ciggies and life is a bit miserable , yet he hasn't much of a life now cant even go out like he used to due to cost increases. MY BP is rising lol..I need to go relax more i think about this stuff i get angry!!
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:12pm
    btony yep housing will take its slug, and maybe I'm left with $1.00 LMAO you have to laugh......what increase???
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:13pm
    I'm starting to like Pauline Hanson by the day,perhaps all the migrants are stealing our slice of the pie!!!
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:21pm
    More bad news headline.
    Under the changes, all existing recipients of the clean energy supplement will continue to receive it, except for those receiving the Family Tax Benefit and Commonwealth Seniors Health Card Holders.

    So old age pension no long receives it??
    Rodent
    13th Sep 2016
    4:32pm
    Dear bubbybadz

    If you are asking will the Energy Supplement continue to be paid to EXISTING Age Pensioners, the answer is YES, based on the deal done today by Govt and Labor

    Quote " the Clean Energy Supplement will be cut for new Welfare recipients on Family Tax Benefits but will be retained for others.The govt's plan to cut $1.3Bill has been scaled back to $208Mill"
    Rodent
    13th Sep 2016
    4:35pm
    And I should have added as well that Labor and the Coalition have agreed to save $1.6 Bill over 4yeras by scaling back FTB part A for families on more than $80,000 pa, this will effect 390,000 families
    Rodent
    13th Sep 2016
    4:39pm
    Dear Pension Tension I thought my reply- above was for another? but its for you?
    PensionTension
    13th Sep 2016
    4:39pm
    Ok thanks phewww !
    Old Geezer
    13th Sep 2016
    4:51pm
    It will be gone in the next budget as we are back to using dirty energy again so it is not needed.
    Misty
    13th Sep 2016
    7:59pm
    Yes they do Pension Tension, it is only those who will be going onto OAP, Newstart etc that will not be getting the energy supplement , at least that is what I understood from the news statement.
    Justsane
    13th Sep 2016
    4:55pm
    Age Pension Increases on 20th of the following months (maximum couples rate each per fortnight):
    March 2012: $5.00
    September 2012: $12.90
    March 2013: $27.00
    September 2013: $14.00
    March 2014: $11.90
    September 2014: $8.70
    March 2015: $4.40
    September 2015: $5.10
    March 2016: $5.20
    September 2016: $2.50

    From sources on the Net.
    Retired
    13th Sep 2016
    5:39pm
    https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/australian-pensioners-living-in-poverty

    A report released by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has confirmed what we already know – Australian pensioners don’t have enough money to live on.
    Pensions at a Glance 2015 compared Australia to 33 other countries and found that it ranks second last when it comes to social equity. A whopping 36 per cent of pensioners live below the poverty line, which is defined in the report as being half of a country’s median household income. The OECD average is 12.6 per cent.
    Of course, the findings won’t come as a surprise to those trying to live on the Age Pension. The Australian Government contributes less to pensioner benefits, just 3.5 per cent of GDP, than any other OECD country, with the average spent in such countries 7.9 per cent.
    The findings mirror those of the Global Age Watch Index 2015, which ranks 96 countries in total and found that 33 per cent of Australians over 60 were living in poverty. 
    The good news is though that Australia does do better than South Korea, with 50 per cent of pensioners there living below the poverty line.
    Joy B
    13th Sep 2016
    5:58pm
    As a single person on Aged Pension the September increases nearly covers my October rent increases so I am grateful for small mercies. At least we will retain the supplements which will not be the case for new pensioners in a few years. I understand that at least one of the supplements will disappear from 2017.
    Becca
    13th Sep 2016
    6:17pm
    The government cares more for spending over $15m on a plebiscite we don't need, than looking after its pensioners and the needy in our country.
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    6:25pm
    Spending $15 mil on a Plebiscite is far more important. Spending a vast fortune on same sex marriages improves the vote count for the party that brings it in. We have to get our priorities right here you know else pollies would have to actually work by knocking on doors to talk to constituents.

    13th Sep 2016
    7:32pm
    another feather in the cap of debbie, being put forward as journalist of the year, by just calling chucky, chucky and they come flying as is labor mick's call to arms, oh what about me, me, me, after that just read most of the comments and it does not take long to wake up which political party they belong to, it is my opinion that if you cannot live as a single pensioner and being a home owner on more than $ 400.00 a week, I dine out at least four times a week, not in the top restaurants, I go to the service clubs or hotels, it saves on gas and electricity and yes I make my own cuppa, yet I have enough left to pay my bills, what else do you want to have a great life!, wake up Australia, think of your kids, grand kids, great grand kids, don't leave them you debts, pay them off before you reach your ultimate destination.
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    12:08pm
    Thank you for your audition for the Crown Clown of LYC role - we'll advise you in due course of the outcome of your audition/application.

    Yours truly

    Trebor Productions
    Beeman
    13th Sep 2016
    7:36pm
    Old Geezer, you are not exactly right when you say that the age pension is a hand-out. Before we changed to the superannuation system the personal income tax form had a box at the top left hand corner of page 1 in which was stated "Form S. Income tax and social service contribution" It was meant to be a primitive form of superannuation.
    However, to those commentators who reckon the amount is too little take note that, if you had the money to invest in secure shares yielding 8% then you would need to have $429.00 to yield the joint $1,320 per fortnight.
    Anonymous
    13th Sep 2016
    9:46pm
    Beeman - you are confused about what you were seeing at the time and what use the social service contribution was destined and allocated to.

    If you go to the link below and read under the section 1941-49, you will note the following...

    "There was a further development of specific relevance to social security in 1945. The Commonwealth split the personal income tax into two components. One, the social services contribution, was to be used exclusively to finance social security cash payments. Revenue from the contribution was paid into the National Welfare Fund, from which all such cash payments were to be made, BUT there was NO LINK BETWEEN PERSONAL CONTRIBUTIONS and ENTITLEMENTS."

    The emphasis above is mine - but understand that this clearly meant way back in 1945 that whatever was paid in had NO BEARING on any future entitlements - like aged pensions.

    A lot of people on this site WANT it to be true - that there was once some mystical fund that you paid into and entitled Australians to a life of pensioner luxury - but the government stole it.

    It NEVER existed - EXCEPT in present day pensioner folk lore.

    http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/3d68c56307742d8fca257090002029cd/8e72c4526a94aaedca2569de00296978!OpenDocument
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    12:13pm
    Incorrect, Reasons - what that meant was that the amount you received was not dependent on the amount you put in, but was clearly an Entitlement.

    Many people, primarily women who left the workforce early etc for family, did not contribute for an entire lifetime - and so that phrase was set in place to ensure that they still received a Pension - not that the Pension was subject to the whim of any government or agency.

    That unfortunate wording, NO LINK BETWEEN PERSONAL CONTRIBUTIONS and ENTITLEMENTS, left a loophole, through deliberate misinterpretation, that the unscrupulous exploit to the full.
    Old Geezer
    15th Sep 2016
    3:51pm
    There is certainly no link between my contributions and entitlements. Looks like I well and truly fell through the loophole.
    Beeman
    13th Sep 2016
    7:39pm
    Apologies! We lost a zero and the capital required should be $429,000
    AlbertC
    13th Sep 2016
    7:52pm
    looks like we will still have to cut back on our groceries so we can pay gas electrcity and waterbills witch continue to go upjust about every 6 months they increased theparlament workers $.40 grand a year and all we get is the leftovers typical of liberals'take away our rite to live a normal life.may your fat wallets turn to toilet paper have nice day
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    4:54pm
    And you enjoy your Threepence, Halfpenny RISE !! When you get it in October :-) :-)
    Pamiea
    13th Sep 2016
    7:57pm
    Oh boy I cant wait to get my hands on the extra cash. Centrelink have already penalised me $20pf ie $520 per year cos I withdrew too much from my super to buy a new car to hopefully last the rest of my driving life. I mean to say despite being told I could spend what i like from my super obviously this is not correct so BE WARNED BIG CENTRELINK IS WATCHING YOU.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    8:50pm
    I just spent my $3.10 on ink writing this :-(
    Johnno11
    13th Sep 2016
    8:52pm
    It's quite obvious you have no concept about saving. You should have saved your ink for future discussions
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    9:16pm
    I'm a spend thrift when I get the Sniff of a RAISE !! :-) :-) :-)
    Mez
    13th Sep 2016
    9:59pm
    So MANY FANTASTIC COMMENTS!
    HOW ABOUT WE ALL START A PETITION ON CHANGE.ORG INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING AND SAYING THAT IT IS BETTER THAN NOTHING!
    LET'S BECOME MORE PRO ACTIVE AND INSTIGATE A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER.
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    10:19pm
    Great in Theory ! :-) But I'm afraid the Plot is lost now :-(
    I've just learned to live with it and Mock it at every turn !! :-)
    Anonymous
    14th Sep 2016
    11:50am
    with the rusted on me, me, me labor lot in these columns there is no hope in this world for that to happen
    freed1948
    14th Sep 2016
    1:36pm
    Good call. It has been announced that public petitions to Parliment can now be submitted on-line. How about Lifechoices generate one about the status of the Aged Pension being so low when compared to the Minimum wage.
    The last increase in the Minimum Wage was 2.4%
    The last increase in MP's wages was 2%
    The 20th of Septemer increase in the Aged Pension WAS LESS THAN 0.5%
    I think that somebody missed a bead on their abacus!
    Misty
    14th Sep 2016
    3:09pm
    Anyone here watch The Press Club today on the ABC, hosted by David Spears from Sky News, the guests were the panel set up to look at pensions, some very interesting findings they say we need at least $50.00 a week extra to enable pensioners to live a reasonable life, also talked about including the family home in the assets test and getting rid of Negative Gearing to fund the increase. The panel said our nations debt was not the great worry it is made out to be it is very low compared to other countries.Please watch it if you can find a replay very interesting.
    PlanB
    14th Sep 2016
    3:46pm
    Yes Misty I watched that -- very interesing
    Fairness
    13th Sep 2016
    10:36pm
    Be consoled, little comment bottom right at bottom of screen tells us farting helps prevent Alzheimers, and as far as I know Government haven't worked out a way to tax it YET!!!!
    Shorty
    13th Sep 2016
    10:46pm
    I just got the power bill today in the mail and the rates have gone up, so the increase in the pension has already gone before I see it.
    Greg
    13th Sep 2016
    11:04pm
    It's the Carbon Tax....oh wait, that's not right
    particolor
    13th Sep 2016
    11:40pm
    I think you'll get 10 Cents in the RISE to cover that !! :-)
    KB
    14th Sep 2016
    6:58am
    The same rate applies for Disability Pension. Very poor increase.This is the lowest increase that we have ever had by the government. Under Labour our increase would have gone up by $20.00 The point is that the cost of living keeps rising People on disability have a higher rate of costs due to needing medication and home help.
    Anonymous
    14th Sep 2016
    6:19pm
    k.b, your statement that under labor the increase would have gone up by $20.00 shows why this country is in such a mess, do you really think the cost of medicines for pensioners is lower than that for being on a disability pension and do you really think you are the only one who needs medication or home help, don't forget this home help is already subsidized by the taxpayer as are your medicines and if the cost of living is going up by a percentage you should not expect the taxpayer to give you a bonus on top of that, in a lot of western countries the pension dropped because the cost of living went down and as for the likes of labor stooge and union official red mick complaining the increase is only half a cup of coffee, get off your arse and make one yourself it may give you an interest in life, mick is it any wonder you never got anywhere when you stood for parliament, the voters are too cluey for dumb persons the likes of you.
    particolor
    14th Sep 2016
    7:11pm
    Who's gunna buy him the Coffee to make one himself ??? :-) :-)
    Anonymous
    15th Sep 2016
    6:55pm
    particolor, aldi sells the coffee pouches for 0.30 each, gives him at least 10 cups that is if he gets his arse into gear, yet don't expect miracles from red mick, he was brought up by and in the unions.
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:06pm
    I just worked out the RAISE !! After Housing shoves their hand in !!
    Ill get $2.30 :-) I'm at my wits end wondering where to invest it ?? Should I take Shares ? Or just waste it ? On 7 Coffee Pouches Perhaps ?
    Decisions ! Decisions :-( :-(
    Retired
    14th Sep 2016
    8:32am
    The biggest lie being told to the Australian Voters is " The Balanced Budget Lie " and that " Our children will inherit the debt ".

    In 1971 President Richard Nixon unilaterally cancelled the direct international convertibility of the United States dollar to gold thus creating our current fiat money situation.

    “ The concept of fiat money can be illuminated by a simple model : Assume a world of a parent and several children. One day the parent announces that the children may earn business cards by completing various household chores.
    At this point the children won’t care a bit about accumulating their parent’s business cards because the cards are virtually worthless. But when the parent also announces that any child who wants to eat and live in the house must pay the parent, say, 200 business cards each month, the cards are instantly given value and chores begin to get done. Value has been given to the business cards by requiring them to be used to fulfill a tax obligation.

    Taxes function to create the demand for Federal expenditures of fiat money, not to raise revenue per se.
    In fact, a tax will create a demand for at Least that amount of federal spending. A balanced budget is, from inception, the MINIMUM that can be spent, without a continuous deflation. The children will likely desire to earn a few more cards than they need for the immediate tax bill, so the parent can expect to run a deficit as a matter of course.”

    Tweeted by Warren Mosler, “Soft Currency Economics “.

    The budget lies being trumpeted by the Coalition, Labor & many Canberra politicians is indicative of the moral collapse of Australian Society and the total domination of Australia by the Corporate World.

    Further more, balancing the budget is not the same as Pauline Hanson balancing the accounts in her fish and chip shop. The Australian economy is not a small business, it’s an economy functioning with fiat currency.

    Also listen to Alan Greenspan and other USA Fed Chairman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMfdDPoyZ5w
    Misty
    14th Sep 2016
    3:14pm
    Retired please see my comment above about the Press Club shown on the ABC TODAY, PENSIONS WAS THE TOPIC AND THE GUESTS WERE THE PANEL WHO WERE SET UP TO DO THE REVIEW. Sorry about the capitals don't have time to change it, hosted by David Spears from Sky News, they also mentioned the NATION'S DEBT.
    Lookfar
    15th Sep 2016
    1:12pm
    Retired, thank you for your reminder that a country, (that prints it's own money,) is very very different to a small business or a family or even most big businesses.
    It is really very obvious that this is a different dynamic, one consequence is that spending money overseas is detrimental to the Balance of payments whereas spending money inside the country, stimulates the Australian economy so increasing it's ability to make stuff that can be sold overseas so reducing the balance of payments.
    It is in how a country goes with it's balance of payments OVERSEAS that a country is like a family or business, and only in that respect.
    Claims that Labour is into Borrow Borrow Borrow ignores the fact that if not spent overseas it (Money) does not have to be repaid and does not become a debt around our children's necks.
    Nor does paying more money for defence equipment that is made in Australia, only defence spendings overseas are harmful to Australia.
    What has gone wrong is that the attitude of meanness towards pensions, workers, children, etc. etc. has forced the country to rely on the Banks to create money, which is to no-one's interest except the Banks. (pun intended).
    I wish folk could really think about these basic facts and not get carried away by judgemental self righteousness, which when you look at it closely, is totally false.
    PlanB
    14th Sep 2016
    8:42am
    Plus the fact that the PBS is slowly being eroded away but so many --unless they are keeping and eye on it do not notice -- so much has been taken off the PBS and that also effects the pension
    particolor
    14th Sep 2016
    7:20pm
    I just saw the New Price of Meat today !! :-) :-) :-) :-)
    Buy up Big Time Kids !! :-) :-)
    TREBOR
    15th Sep 2016
    11:34am
    Does that mean our indexed pension politicians will only be receiving $3.20 a week extra this year?

    I thought not..... the pay rate for stuffing the country is exceptional and should in no way be touched - especially downward.
    Lookfar
    15th Sep 2016
    1:15pm
    Oh for a Govt which had a spirit of generosity and helpfulness towards it's people.
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    4:48pm
    Find a couple of Big Fat Books and just sit back and wait !!.. And Wait.. And..... :-)
    Cranky
    15th Sep 2016
    4:31pm
    Why is it that so many people make comments about the pensioner rise and why two people are better off than one yet they never put their names to their comments. I am still say a pensioner is a pensioner whether single or otherwise and all should be on the same rate of pension. As I said some of the people on the pension have never worked a day in their lives or contributed to the welfare of this country, and now we have all these people coming into Australia from other countries and claiming refugee status, and they get better treatment from the welfare system than ordinary Australians. Let us see some fairness for a change. I have seen what goes on in the community as I had the privelidge of working in a Government position and I have seen the discrimination first hand - Max Jackwitz (Cranky)
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    4:45pm
    I too was Govern(mental) All My working life and Agree with all you say :-) Particolor ( Not all that Cranky) :-) :-)
    Justsane
    15th Sep 2016
    6:31pm
    Cranky, I don't agree that a pensioner couple should get double what a single pensioner receives. That is not fair, because it does cost more for two single pensioners to live separately than for a pensioner couple to live together. I think a single pensioner should get 3/4 of what both members of a couple get, not barely 2/3rds, as is the case now.
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    7:39pm
    Single people do not turn Half a Light on !! :-)
    Anonymous
    16th Sep 2016
    8:47pm
    But Cranky has a valid argument. Two singles can live together just as easily as a married couple. Three or more can share for that matter. And they STILL get the higher single rate. I know couples who split up to get a higher pension, but still actually live together. It's not so much that married couples are discriminated against, but rather the honest suffer discrimination. So many ways to get around the system now that only the honest, decent, hard-working battlers are deprived. The dishonest manipulators are all doing fine.

    My multi-millionaire neighbours are full single pensioners (despite being husband and wife - they pretend to be separated and built the house with self-contained suites at each end). They gave over $2 million to their kids, who pay all their bills for them. They sank $1.2 million into a house. And today they complained bitterly that having applied for a NSW government grant to buy a new TV and fridge, they were told they had to buy a given model and couldn't just have the money to upgrade to the fancy model upmarket models they wanted. (The grant was for meant battlers who can't afford a new energy efficient appliance! They already have two large near-new plasma TVs and a one-yr old double-door fridge freezer - plus another big near new fridge in the garage. They are now taking the gift appliances and selling them on eBay! )
    Johnno11
    15th Sep 2016
    5:01pm
    I too worked for the government via a major contract for maintenance. I had sparkies on my team at minimum wage but under the contract we couldn't let them change a lightbulb even thougj they were onsite. I had to call in contractors. Light Globe would cost $110 to change. That's why we can't increase pensions. We have to waste taxpayers funds on stupidity by public servants
    particolor
    15th Sep 2016
    5:25pm
    I know exactly what you mean ! I saw the Boss call in an Electrician once to change the Globe in his Desk Lamp :-) :-) Gawd knows what that cost the Taxpayer :-( :-(
    ex PS
    15th Sep 2016
    6:54pm
    If I was lucky enough to get that amount as a pension rise, I would spend it on toilet paper, the good stuff that you can't see through when you hold it up to the light. I would then think of this government and it's noxious policies every time I used it.
    Anonymous
    15th Sep 2016
    7:19pm
    typical public servant's statement, while living on the taxpayer's back like a aphis till retirement and only then after receiving his enormous pension professes he did not like their policies, want to meet another
    gopher?
    julias
    16th Sep 2016
    11:01am
    My rent has just increased by $10 per week. This will make a big difference.
    PIXAPD
    16th Sep 2016
    12:16pm
    A maximum pension increase of $1.55 a week...... I'll be rich, rich I tell you ....RICH !!!!
    particolor
    16th Sep 2016
    8:30pm
    Throw up the Whit Flag and surrender :-( We will get nowhere with this Raggy Lot !!.... OK ! Old Mans turn now :-) Tell us how Lovable they are :-)
    particolor
    16th Sep 2016
    8:39pm
    If this is Whinging! So Be It !! But I would have preferred to get "Nothing" than that "INSULT" :-( :-( :-( :-(
    Anonymous
    16th Sep 2016
    9:37pm
    can you image the cries if this lot did not get any increase, chucky, chucky here they come, what a lot of crying babies, is it any wonder this once great country is doomed with the likes of how much is that mickey in the window, trebor the clown, big nose does not mean more brains, lately we have to read lots more of the so called intelligent contributors to these columns, the likes of johnnos, with two n's claiming he had sparkies on his team, no wonder his hair covers his brains? doubt if there are any or for the likes of pixapd not realising that the pension is not there to become rich but being a assistance to make his or her life easier when he or her becomes older, don't forget it is the taxpayer who pays for your pension, or those of the ex public servant who has happily lved on the taxpayers back for many a year but does not know how to live on a budget, most likely better then the pension, all of a sudden he does not get paid for going to the gym in working hours, or have taxpayers subsidized meals, etc. etc.
    when will your lot wake up if ever !
    particolor
    19th Sep 2016
    6:12pm
    $2.30 is fine. But $70,000 like the Polly's is Finer !! :-) :-) :-)
    Biddy
    20th Sep 2016
    11:19am
    What a insult this is to us pensioners,oh goody now we can afford another litre all heart Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison
    particolor
    20th Sep 2016
    12:12pm
    Bloody Hell !! It will cost me $2.90 EXTRA to go down and pick up $2.30 more ?? And that's only ONE Item :-( :-(
    Am I missing something here ?? :-) :-) :-)
    Billy
    20th Sep 2016
    1:42pm
    I wonder what the effect would be if voting was not compulsory, currently under the present system we vote and get arseholes, who are feathering their own nests - count me out. After the Housing Dept. have taken their bit I donate the balance to the government to help out with their allowances instead of bumming off the Chinese and whatever. Roll on lotto.
    rodex
    20th Sep 2016
    2:14pm
    Here we go again, the rich are getting richer and the rest of us are poorer, what can we buy for $3.20 NOTHING
    particolor
    20th Sep 2016
    5:14pm
    3 Postage Stamps for Complaint letters !! :-)
    Anonymous
    20th Sep 2016
    7:30pm
    more than when you get nothing
    JOHN T
    20th Sep 2016
    5:30pm
    I read the comments and are dismayed at the lack of action the pensioners take regarding the pittance they receive.
    Did we all work our whole lives to find when we retired we are to be treated as second class citizens .Shouldn't it be brought to the attention of the politicians of the major parties that they lost a share of their votes to lower parties.For far to long the interests of others come first unless you are gay or a refugee the aged pension will not be treated fairly











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    particolor
    20th Sep 2016
    7:41pm
    I think we've Slipped to 4th Class Citizens :-(
    particolor
    20th Sep 2016
    7:46pm
    I did hunt around today for something you can buy with $2.30 ! A packet of Arnott's Biscuits, but only if they're on Special :-)
    Anonymous
    20th Sep 2016
    8:52pm
    john,how much did you waste, e.a lotto, pokies, lunches instead of taking your lunch to work, restaurants instead of having a b.b.q at home, pubs, holidays, cars, coffee, etc, when you was too lazy to look after your future and thought I"ll be right, the country will look after me when I retire and now you expect that the country, the taxpayer, your own kids, grandkids will reward you for wasting your's and the taxpayers money by giving you a princely sum so you can keep up with your neighbors who have saved all their lives with the view they won't rely on the taxpayer when he or she retire, as for your point that gays or refugees are more important than pensioners, if you can't live on more than $ 400.00 a week it is time you start living in the real world, get yourself a budget, food, medicines, doctors, bills, water, electricity, gas etc, get your head out of the clouds, you are the one who's owing the world a living, the world owes you nothing,
    particolor
    20th Sep 2016
    9:16pm
    Gee !! You got me wondering about those refugees now ? They must have contributed heaps !!
    JOHN T
    21st Sep 2016
    8:30am
    Attention HEEMSKERK99
    What sort of a pompas twit are you assuming a comment made concerning the welfare of others allows you to pre judge the person making it ,you are the ignorant type that assumes that everyone on wellfare are there by choice do you agree with spending $96 millon to train people for work with out making jobs available for them ?
    particolor
    21st Sep 2016
    6:51pm
    I'll bet he does ! Some of them Agree with anything Glorious Leader does :-)
    Just heard that Glorious Leader has Allowed another 12,000 "Refugees " a year to come here now !! WHOO HOOO !! Train them up Mal :-) :-)
    Anonymous
    21st Sep 2016
    6:57pm
    john I stay with my former statement, you may call me a pompas twit whatever that means, you can call me worse if that is what pleases you, yet I never expected anybody to call the pension we receive a pittance, maybe you can inform us when during your working life you received over $ 400.00 a week from the government for doing nothing as for stating the gays and refugees come before the old age pension just shows how your brain, doubt if you have one, works.
    sorry john, your comments show your prejudice and before you put pen to paper next time, consider the size of your mouth against the input to these columns.
    Janice
    21st Sep 2016
    9:25am
    These increases we get twice a year are an absolute INSULT. Works out to be a $1.60 or $1.25 if your a couple per week is a joke. It won't even buy a loaf of bread or a litre of milk.
    I'm not sure what it would buy if anything.
    Anonymous
    21st Sep 2016
    8:36pm
    cost of bread, aldi $0.99 a loaf
    coles $0.89 a loaf
    milk litre aldi $0.89 a ltre
    coles " 0.90 " "
    janice take your pick, instead of complaining be happy this government is keeping up with the cost increases, yes ,we all would like to live like kings and queens, yet in reality would you be happy to saddle your kids, grandkids and great grandkids with a debt because we were silly enough to elect past governments who did not know how to look after our tax moneys, those who got us from billions of dollars in savings accounts to billions of debts in the matter of three years in government, those who thought it was great that insulation, never a problem of the past was more important than the lives of people lost in that insanity, the loss of jobs, many expert firms went to the wall, the loss off houses, burnt to the ground, because anybody and his dog could get a job, can you recall the photo's in the paper of the kids, no older than 4 or 5 sitting on the roof pushing the rolls of insulation, can you recall how many claims are paid out and can you recall how many are still waiting to be heard?
    janice be happy, at least you get something, is more then those who believed and ended up in a box
    JOHN T
    22nd Sep 2016
    8:58am
    Attention Janice,
    Try not be discouraged by the comments of heemskerk99 as the opinions expressed are full of desperation to be heard as in normal situations no body would bother listening to such a no all no nothing bigot
    missmarple
    21st Sep 2016
    11:59am
    I just looked up what exactly the increase was and centre link is saying for a single increase is $3.10 but according to my pension before increase and after increase it is $2.04,, ie: pension $1.77,, Energy Supplement $0.10,, Pension Supplement $0.06,, Rent assistance $0.11 and my rent is $230.00p/w so who ever is doing the maths for the Government needs to go back to school
    PlanB
    21st Sep 2016
    12:04pm
    Miss, you may find you won't get the full increase till the next pension as it only started on the 20th and so you only got a day or so
    particolor
    21st Sep 2016
    6:59pm
    Rent,Power, Petrol, Etc. does not enter their figures when assessing your "INCREASE :-) " And as for go back to School :-) I don't think they went there in the first place :-) :-)
    14 into $3.10 goes ?? AH FORGET IT !! :-( :-(
    PS.. :-)
    MiteMike
    21st Sep 2016
    1:31pm
    If you go in a lottery and win, and this means your pension can be cut, dose it not also mean if you go in a lottery and loose you will get extra payment on your pension to cover your loss ? ? ?
    sirrom50
    21st Sep 2016
    3:25pm
    If you go in a lottery and loose then guess what. YOU just LOOSE and that is all.
    particolor
    21st Sep 2016
    6:05pm
    Fraid NOT !!
    But someone just posted on "Pensioners Living in Cars" Well I know 2 more Pensioners living in their cars since then :-( :-( :-(
    Missskinnylegs
    21st Sep 2016
    3:50pm
    I work part time as part pension was not enough to rent in Sydney and I'm not ready to retire yet and move out of city. Got small pay rise, advised Centrelink, who stopped part pension and reduced my rent assistance right down and I now my pay rise = $5 a week in my hand - am worse off and to top it all I am now told I earn too much to be on housing list after paying HUGE taxes all my life. So fed up with it all.
    particolor
    21st Sep 2016
    6:08pm
    Change Your Religion !! :-) :-) And " She'll be right mate" :-) :-)
    They will have you housed before you can say Ali Barber !! :-) :-)
    Anonymous
    21st Sep 2016
    9:53pm
    how great it is to live in the country, growing your own vegies, sleeping in,smelling the roses, not having to worry about the rent, bought the house on less then three years pension, not having to worry about your neighbours complaining because your rooster crows when it is time to get up, that is for his chucks not us, with other words, earn your keep or else, chicken broth taste great, keep a few lambs, a piglet, some rabbits, ducks on the dam, on Saturday go to the old dances at the local, during the week put in your shopping list, about 10% more expensive then living in the nearest town, however after reading all the winges in these columns of those supposed worse off poor and left in the gutter pensioners, follow my footsteps and enjoy the rest of your life, as you only live once and unless you make the best of it you will be miserable for the rest of your life.
    particolor
    21st Sep 2016
    10:36pm
    I've heard the Government is going to Acquire your place for a Refugee Camp !! :-) :-) 17,000 EXTRAS coming soon :-) Mal just bought them off the UN !! :-) :-)
    Anonymous
    23rd Sep 2016
    5:54pm
    plenty of room left and I can do with some cheap labor, however I don't want a mosque, the wingers in these columns are enough, I don't want to be woken up by somebody shouting them from a tower.
    PlanB
    22nd Sep 2016
    10:11am
    To me it seems quite ridiculous to spend so much on OUT OF date Planes and Subs -- AND give Politicians such a LARGE --and free trips etc etc --retirement when they go on to STILL work in a top paying job AND can do that at ANY age, we have to wait for a miserly amount
    Joyful56
    22nd Sep 2016
    2:06pm
    It is a pretty pathetic increase - particularly when the likes of Stephen Conroy are receiving $200,000 per annum from his retirement (aged 53) and indexed too! One set of rules for them and different for the rest - but we already knew that!
    Joyful56
    22nd Sep 2016
    2:06pm
    It is a pretty pathetic increase - particularly when the likes of Stephen Conroy are receiving $200,000 per annum from his retirement (aged 53) and indexed too! One set of rules for them and different for the rest - but we already knew that!
    Joyful56
    22nd Sep 2016
    2:07pm
    It is a pretty pathetic increase - particularly when the likes of Stephen Conroy are receiving $200,000 per annum from his retirement (aged 53) and indexed too! One set of rules for them and different for the rest - but we already knew that!
    Joyful56
    22nd Sep 2016
    2:07pm
    It is a pretty pathetic increase - particularly when the likes of Stephen Conroy are receiving $200,000 per annum from his retirement (aged 53) and indexed too! One set of rules for them and different for the rest - but we already knew that!
    Joyful56
    22nd Sep 2016
    2:09pm
    It is a pretty pathetic increase, particularly when you look at the likes of Stephen Conroy who just retired on a $200,000 pension (aged 53) and indexed too! One set of rules for them and another for the rest - but we already knew that, didn't we?
    particolor
    22nd Sep 2016
    7:24pm
    The New ^^^ RISE ^^^ Comes into Effect today !! I'm off to the Pokies and Club to celebrate with Half a Schooner of Beer !! Well that's Blown it! :-( :-( I just spent it all on that Half Schooner !! I'll have to go home now :-( :-( :-(

    PS :-)
    almost a grey hair
    6th Oct 2016
    4:30pm
    Centrelink does not want you to buy luxuries with it. It is meant to provide the needy with food,shelter and clothing. Anything on top of this is a luxury. No wonder only small increment increases are given, You are wasting it.
    particolor
    6th Oct 2016
    4:39pm
    After Food and Shelter ,Electricity Etc. I've decided to Ditch the Luxury of clothing this year and get around in Budgie Smugglers :-) :-)
    Davo
    20th Oct 2016
    5:04pm
    Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen,

    I have followed this string with some interest and note that not one comment has been all that complimentary, especially given the Australian benefits for pensioners vs those that the most of the rest of the world endures. Furthermore, it may come as a surprise that a self funded retirees gets no guaranteed indexing movements (and in fact have suffered significant losses on many occasions, particularly post GFC). It may also come as a surprise that a self funded retiree to enjoy a guaranteed income equivalent to the age pension for a couple, would need to have saved at least $862,500 and that is before any additional benefits like health cards, transport concessions, utilities concessions are given etc (read: http://www.finsia.com/docs/default-source/Retirement-Risk-Zone/how-safe-are-safe-withdrawal-rates-in-retirement-an-australian-perspective.pdf?sfvrsn=2 ). Oh ... and by the way, we also paid our taxes!


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