8th Sep 2017

Millions of Australians to receive Age Pension increase

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Age pensioners and Disability Support Pension recipients will receive a $6.10 increase per fortnight to $894.40 for singles and $4.60 a fortnight to $674.20 for each member of a couple.

The payment increase will come into effect as of 20 September 2017.

Newstart recipients will also receive a bump in pay, with increases of $3.20 per fortnight for singles with no children and $2.90 for each member of a couple.

Single Parenting Payment recipients will receive an increase of $4.50 a fortnight.



Minister for Social Services, Christian Porter, said that pension and allowance recipients should benefit from the regular twice-yearly indexation.

“These increases help pensioners and allowance recipients keep up with increases in living costs,” said Minister Porter.

“Rent Assistance rates also increase from next week and a range of income and assets limits for pensions and allowances will also increase as a result of indexation. This includes higher limits to the income and assets test for age pensioners before their payments are affected.

“The amount self-funded retirees can earn to qualify for the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card, which provides access to cheaper medicines and a range of state/territory government and local government concessions increases by $1,003 annually for singles and $802 annually for each member of a couple.”

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Vickbenla
12th Sep 2017
10:19am
Wow $6.10 I will be able to afford a couple of chops for dinner & how much did the politicians increase their wage by?
FrankC
12th Sep 2017
12:17pm
I presume you mean pork chops and not lamb. Lamb at $30 kilo, that is ridiculous. You will be able to pick up 6 lamb cutlets for around $9.50, as opposed to 2 lamb chops for around $14.00 !
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
1:51pm
Never happy are you

Donate it to charity then
Star Trekker
12th Sep 2017
10:43am
I can now afford 2 cups of coffee when I do my grocery shopping. It will probably go towards the power bills.
AutumnOz
12th Sep 2017
11:17am
All this messing about with re-valuing assets and giving a tiny increase (or decrease)in the pension merely increases any anxiety pensioners and welfare recipients have about their income and does nothing to help them pay their ever increasing bills.

A much fairer and more equable option would be a universal income for all and any extra income taxed at the normal rate.

The government who introduced that would be remembered with affection for many terms of parliament and many decades.
Too much to hope for this intelligent action in the next couple of years I suppose.
Gra
12th Sep 2017
3:23pm
Some people are never happy - that is unless they are whinging about something. A universal income? You mean where everyone gets paid the same amount regardless of what they have done (or in a lot of cases, NOT done)? Now that is exactly how a Communist thinks, rewarding someone for doing nothing and taking from the worker.
AutumnOz
13th Sep 2017
7:55am
Gra, I was making a comment not having a whinge.

Now you have mentioned it I would prefer my tax dollars to go to the women who gave up their jobs to look after their family during the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s etc. Of course they didn't work did they so they?
Do they not deserve to be supported in their old age?'

OR then there is the farmer whose tractor overturned and disabled him for life.
With your mindset he also deserves to starve because he is doing nothing - because he can't not because he wants to do nothing.

Supporting them is not Communism (the ideology that used to prevail in the USSR and still does in China), however, it is communism (notice the lower case C) which means supporting people in your own community regardless of whether they can work or not in return.
Rainey
16th Sep 2017
2:27pm
I presume, Gra, that you have no problem supporting the leaches who earn high incomes and claim huge taxpayer-funded contributions to their retirement fund so they can retire I'm luxury? Half of them wouldn't know what work was, and many have exploited today's pensioners, paying them crap wages to work in dangerous and unhealthy conditions, so they can get rich. But then they begrudge these same workers a decent existence in old age, while demanding massive tax concessions to ensure they wallow in luxury in their final years.

A universal income has been widely touted as essential to resolve the economic and social problems arising from increased automation and technical innovation, and the most productive innovators are among those promoting the idea. It has great merit. It sets smart and energetic people free to take business risks and to innovate and create. It reduces poverty and resulting mental illness and crime. It assists in addressing the massive inequity that is currently driving huge social discontent and creating massive economic risk. It is NOT a reward for doing nothing, and it's NOT how a Communist thinks. (Communism suppresses the poor and pays huge incomes to the powerful. It only shares in theory.)

A universal income simply replaces pensions and unemployment benefits, slashing the massive administration costs associated with them. Our current system is suppressive. It keeps people down, killing initiative by punishing anyone who strives to escape the welfare trap. A universal income provides the security that lets people strive and achieve without penalty and without fear. We currently pay people for doing nothing. The difference with a universal income is that it supports and encourages the do-nothings to start doing something, because they no longer have to suffer for trying.

You are showing your ignorance here, Gra. You should stop making nasty accusations and start educating yourself. The universal income concept is widely supported by eminent economists, political leaders and entrepreneurs all over the world, for good reason.
GrandmaKathleen22
12th Sep 2017
11:34am
I don't sneeze at nearly $10 a fortnight into our budget. Every bit helps balance our budget. But I look at every cent saved so every little bit is welcome and I am thankful to live in Australia where we are able to be paid pensions that allow us to be reasonably comfortable.
missmarple
12th Sep 2017
5:10pm
I am not sneezing at $6.10 either Grandma Kath, I am a single pensioner, I started work at 15 and retired (due to health ) at 71, I pay private rental, I live in a rural town where cost of living is a lot dearer than the city but I manage ok, you learn to live within your means, I do agree with some though that the pollies are paid far too much and as well all the perks
AutumnOz
13th Sep 2017
8:03am
Living within our means seems to be the secret of a fairly comfortable retirement.
One of my children is good at living within her means and seems quite happy to do so, the others are constantly living beyond their means and wondering why they can't pay their bills on time.
It seems to be that some of us are born with that skill and other without it. I am very grateful I can live within my means and pay the unexpected bills when they arrive.
Rainey
17th Sep 2017
2:04am
It's a learned skill, AutumnOz - not one we are born with - but unfortunately it's far more difficult for some through no fault of their own. When health fails, living within your means becomes extremely difficult. I sympathize with those who struggle through no fault of their own.

I lived, literally, ''on the smell of an oily rag'' for the first 45 years of my life. Thankfully, I was able to work my way out of inherited disadvantage and I'm now comfortable. But I would struggle now to live on a pension because of my partner's health issues and care needs, which impose huge costs and restrict our capacity to do the things we used to do to save money (like our own home and furnishings repairs and maintenance and making things).

I know a great many pensioners are hard up now because they lived too lavishly or carelessly in earlier life and didn't save, or because they have developed unreasonable expectations of lifestyle. But there are a great many, also, who are really struggling through no fault of their own, and my heart goes out to them.

I have set up a trust fund for a disabled grandson because I fear his disability will prevent him ever living independently or earning an income, and I know that life on disability benefits is incredibly difficult - especially when medicine and care costs are high.

While I admire those who manage on pensions and don't complain, I think we should beware of being too judgmental. There are some here who display no empathy at all, and their ''holier than though'' attitudes are deeply offensive. We didn't all have the same opportunities in life, and we don't all have the same intelligence and talents. We don't all travel the same path. Let's show a little compassion for those who lost in the lottery of life.
fat
12th Sep 2017
11:41am
about time couples got same amount as singles two can't live as cheaply as one.twice as much gas, electricity,water etc.
Grateful
12th Sep 2017
12:10pm
So true fat. How ironic that we are having all of this talk about discrimination and equal rights in the same sex marriage debate, when those that are in a marriage under the Marriage Act are so obviously being discriminated against!!

Individuals in a marriage are still INDIVIDUALS and should definitely have the same rights as a single person.

Nothing to do with two so called being able to live as cheaply as one (what archaic bunkum is that anyway??) it is about equal rights of individuals!!!!

In fact, the present laws actually encourage people NOT to get married!!! Those same sex couples are going to cost each other $5,720 per annum by getting married.
No wonder people are NOT getting married and living in de facto relationships!!!

So, those wanting same sex marriages to be "equal" would be better off by $11,440 per annum if they just lived together like the majority of de facto couples are now doing!!!!
So much for "equal rights"!!!!
KSS
12th Sep 2017
2:14pm
Why twice as much gas? And I doubt it is twice as much electricity either. An increase in water certainly (those 'extra' showers and toilet flushes).

And Grateful, if you are in a de facto relationship then you are not treated as two singles at all. Especially if you are living together in the relationship.
Sundays
12th Sep 2017
3:09pm
On the flip side Grateful, single Pensioners pay the same as couples for rates, insurances, car rego and running costs as well as maintenance on their home. Gay couples living together have been treated the same by Centrelink as any other de facto couple since 2008
Grateful
12th Sep 2017
4:05pm
Try telling us that all of those "couples" living together have notified Centrelink. One of THE great rorts.

Also reinforces some people's objection to same sex marriage "to have equal rights" when those who are living together already receive equal rights under the de-facto provisions. Two sound reasons for NOT getting officially married.
P.S. Just being a devil's advocate in the context of equal rights and discrimination for married individuals. Whether they live with someone else or alone, they still have the unequivocal right to receive the same pension from Centrelink. Absolutely nothing to do with "two living as cheaply as one" they are an Australian citizen.
Anyway, try buying clothes or medical treatment even a coffee or lunch or dinner and asking for a 25% discount because you are married!!!! Bah humbug!!
Rainey
17th Sep 2017
7:58am
My neighbours are a de facto couple but get single pensions despite co-habituating. An couple living nearby built a house with bedroom suites at either end so they could claim they were ''separated'' and get single pensions despite living under the same roof. A woman I know who has been faking disability for 40 years recently built a home with a spare bedroom with ensuite and invited her lover to move in and claim a ''carer''s pension'' and allowance. He now gets more than the aged pension though being perfectly able to work and not doing any ''caring'' for a fit, healthy woman who should be in the workforce, and she draws a single pension despite him sharing all the household costs.

The system is WRONG. Grateful is quite correct. Only the honest lose out under this cruel scheme. And in many cases, one can live for less than half the price of two - for example where one has high medical treatment and care needs.
Billy
12th Sep 2017
11:53am
What a joke,its a bloody insult yet the Government can dig into the emergency bank and waste $122 Million on the same sex marriage issue. I live in Government housing, straight away they will extract 25% of $4.60 for each of us, $3.45 may just get me a plain coffee - there is a lot of terrible thoughts going on at present, besides pissed-off.
Not a Bludger
12th Sep 2017
11:56am
Grizzle, grizzle - moan, moan.

Seems to me that the free (and tax free) $674.20 per week per couple plus all the other discounts and benefits is pretty generous.

You should be saying thank you government and thank you taxpayers of Australia.
Billy
12th Sep 2017
3:34pm
Attention: Not a Bludger. Correction to your comment i.e. $674.20 per week per couple - get your facts right $674.20 per FORTNIGHT per couple, is it still 'pretty generous'
Star Trekker
12th Sep 2017
4:06pm
Sorry Billy but Not a Bludger is correct.

$674.20 x 2 weeks = $1348.40 per fortnight per couple.

It is $674.20 per FORTNIGHT for each person in the couple.
Not a Bludger
12th Sep 2017
6:32pm
Thank you Star Trekker - and this is the problem - today's grizzlers & moaners can't even do simple arithmetic.

Just check out most of the other posts on this blog.

What was the old song - why Lord, won't you give me a MerKcedes Benz.
Star Trekker
12th Sep 2017
8:01pm
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/janisjoplin/mercedesbenz.html

Janis Joplin
"Mercedes Benz"

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
Jansview
13th Sep 2017
11:41am
Sorry, we were taxpayers at one time. Superannuation wasn't a given. I was a woman so I was expected to leave the work force, go off and have babies and be a stay at home dutiful wife. I started work at 15 while still at school, went straight from school into a job at 17, wasn't allowed to join Super until 25 because of the above assumption. At 47 I made the decision to give up work and care for my Mother full-time, no other help, because she had severe mobility issues and dementia. I lived off my own savings for 12 months until I received the Carer Pension. I looked after her for 6 1/2 years until it became physically impossible for me to do so any more. How much money do you estimate that saved the Government. I put her into a home with the best of reputations and within six months she was dead. See, they overdosed her on drugs to knock her out so she wasn't 'a bother' to them. Did the Government authorities want to know, not a chance. Swept that one under the carpet. In the meantime I lived off my own money again because by then I was so sick myself it was impossible for me to work. I was assessed by a Centrelink medical officer, deemed to be unable to work more than eight hours a week, and finally received a pension again. Then you have the audacity to tell me I should be pleased with a $6.10 per fortnight increase when I see how the pollies are wasting money day in, day out on themselves. No normal pension for them, free flights after retiring, no paying for health cover, and...., and... and... the list is endless. Get a diplomatic post overseas and collect the pollie pension at the same time. Nice rort but they're all doing it. All the while, they are so busy giving Taxpayers money away to overseas countries, and they don't have the smarts to realise the ordinary Aussie is struggling, and not only pensioners.
Rainey
18th Sep 2017
2:52pm
Find me a pensioner who isn't a taxpayer, if you can! Everyone pays tax - GST, petrol tax, alcohol tax, cigarette tax, council rates... it goes on and on and on. And most retirees paid tax during working life. The big difference is that the self-funded generally had far higher incomes and far more tax avoidance opportunities, and likely made greater use of community owned and national resources. In the end, age pensioners typically make less demand on the taxpayer over a lifetime than the more affluent.
johnp
12th Sep 2017
11:58am
Hi Kathleen
Dont give the pollies excuses to continue their meanness to retirees. While they live high on the hog with obscene salaries, allowances, travel perks, such as helicopter rides etc etc. By the pollies actions; it results in justifiable human temperament to apply pressure up the line to receive higher pensions. That is by those further down the food chain. In the end the cost to the taxpayer increases unnecessarily as well.
GrandmaKathleen22
12th Sep 2017
12:12pm
They are not obscene salaries for a start. Private enterprise pay higher salaries by far. Their hours are long and there are big inconveniences to their families. Not all pollies wrought the system.
People pay higher taxes because too many pay no tax.
Not needing to go to work many expenses disappear.
I am not going to complain about our pension. I worried before we got it that it would not be liveable but it is as we would never pay $5 for a cup of coffee. I buy nice tea as I love tea and it is a fraction of that at home.
You take what you get and live within that. Having raised a big family we have been trained well living within our means.
Imagine living in a third world country where there is no pension!
Rainey
17th Sep 2017
1:51am
Please don't justify politicians'' salaries, GrandmaKathleen22. They ARE obscene, because most of them are totally inept seat warmers who ''work'' for a few years stuffing up the country and then retire on fat pensions for life, with obscene benefits.

Last time I checked, the nation was heavily in debt, national debt was rising, wages were stagnating, unemployment and underemployment was at record highs (although the true figures are not released because they are too damning!), social discontent was running high, pensioners and unemployment benefit rates were below the poverty line, homelessness was increasing, suicide rates were rising, family breakdown rates were increasing, and politicians were spending millions on a questionable ''same sex marriage'' survey and gifting mega-billions to corporations that dodge tax.

Please don't tell me the morons that created this mess earn their obscene salaries! And to add insult, they give themselves a massive 12% pay rise while the rest of the nation suffers income stagnation.

As for CEOs and directors in private enterprise, most of them are hideously overpaid as well. Some may work hard. Many are actually paid millions to quit after they stuff up and cause shareholders loss.

The world is in a shocking mess, and it's because of the greedy, self-serving, arrogant, overpaid elite.

I agree we should all be grateful that we have pensions in this country, and that it's possible to get by on one if you have to (by going without a lot - thank goodness I don't have to!), but that doesn't excuse the failure of politicians to ensure our aged are properly rewarded for their contribution to society and well cared for in their final years. Nor does it ease the fears of those who see us moving quickly toward a third-world country where there are no pensions - or to total economic collapse. And there is absolutely no excuse for raiding the pension fund that was created decades ago and that, if preserved, would have seen all our aged living in modest comfort.
cat
12th Sep 2017
12:12pm
what a joke. When you look at what politicians award themselves it's pathetic. With bills going up and as we get less able to do things for ourselves we have to pay to have housework, gardening etc done. I need housework and gardening which used to be my pride and joy and all they give me is 2 hours housework once a fortnight with their ACH at $12 hour. I have to have my shopping delivered because I cant carry anything heavy. I'm beginning to remember Guy Fawkes and wondering if he has a descendant over here?
.
GrandmaKathleen22
12th Sep 2017
12:23pm
We have our groceries delivered too and Coles do not charge.
If you take the big delivery time slot it is free.
We need housework and gardening etc done as well.
Your local council may help with that. I go online to get bids for gardening and jobs around the home.
We own our own home but have upkeep, rates, insurances, etc but still better than renting.
I know it is not easy but it could be worse with no pension.
Also, a couple has it easier than a single for several reasons.
Star Trekker
12th Sep 2017
4:08pm
GrandmaKathleen22
you have to spend over $150 to get the free delivery in the big delivery time slot.
Eddy
12th Sep 2017
5:24pm
With the cost of groceries nowadays it is not hard to rack up $150 per shop. I do not use online grocery shopping yet as I do not need to but I can understand how someone with no vehicle available to them would take advantage of the service. With the demise of local shopping some people would have to walk too far to get to a shopping centre.
KB
12th Sep 2017
5:27pm
You have to spend over 150 for free delivery. Cat why not ask for more help with ACH For the most part ACH workers will take you shopping if need be. Look into what other services they can offer you. I used to get ACH to do my housework done through ACH but they are are aunable to help due to my particular agency no longer working for then.
inextratime
12th Sep 2017
12:17pm
I'm not an economist but is it not all about wealth distribution ? Whatever pension gets paid a percentage goes back into the economy via gst, duty, fees etc. So the money goes around anyway. Ok so the argument is that it is not earned, well I know lots of people who are in work that don't ''earn'' the amount they get paid. And is there an argument for paying everyone over 65 a set amount per week regardless of their financial status with proof of age being the criteria. That would eliminate the millions of dollars spent on working out who gets what and who doesn't. Is the only argument against this is that the unemployment rate would go up ?
Rainey
17th Sep 2017
8:06am
''Is the only argument against this is that the unemployment rate would go up ?''

Would it? I seriously doubt it. I think the extra spending that would generate would drive significant economic growth and more jobs.

The only people opposing the idea seem to be the ''holier than though'' privileged elite - very few of whom have ever '''earned'' their substantial income and assets.
Suzie'Q
12th Sep 2017
12:31pm
$4.60 will probably not pay for a coffee, in most coffee shops they are $5.somthing a cup. I, like probably many others have paid taxes since I was 14, until I retired at 64, I don't feel guilty at all having a ( tax ) paid Pension. But I strongly object the amount the Politicians give them selves when they get a raise. Then when they retire, they appear to get far more than other people for a pension plus lurks and perks, simply because they have been a Politician.
KSS
12th Sep 2017
2:20pm
I don't know where you are Suzie Q but if you are being asked to pay $5 a cup of coffee I hope it is the kind made from the beans that have been through the Indonesian palm civet cat and retrieved from its poo! Because at $5 a cup it had better be pretty special!
Jansview
13th Sep 2017
2:00pm
I'm with you Suzie'Q. $5 isn't unreasonable in most places for a coffee. I rarely ever buy them for that reason but the point is while we're doing without our $5 coffee the pollies are probably sitting during the finest Red or Moe with their long lunch - on Taxpayer money. And yes, GrandmaKathleen22, maybe they do work long hours but so do a lot of other people. When I was working it was nothing unusual for me to work a 12 hour day, and because I was a woman I never earned more than $35k/year during my whole working life. The men doing the similar job received double that. Yes, we manage, what else can we do - roll over and die?
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
1:50pm
Good on this government
Pretty generous increases !
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
1:52pm
So many sarcastic and nasty comments from ungrateful pensioners
This increase is coming from hardworking taxpayers you realize
Roby
12th Sep 2017
2:31pm
Yes far to generous wait until they vote in Shorten he will break the country with his bullshit schemes and these bloody pensioners will get it in the neck and end up on food stamps lets see how they go then?
Eddy
12th Sep 2017
5:32pm
Don't say 'good on this government'. These increases are legislated, without changing the law they are a non-discretionary expense to the public purse.
As for myself I am a taxpayer (admittedly not a hard working one) and I do not begrudge OAP a this meagre increase.
AutumnOz
13th Sep 2017
8:14am
Well said Eddy,
neither do I begrudge old age pensioners the increase, they worked many years for their pension and now need to feel secure in old age.
Jansview
15th Sep 2017
1:59pm
Raphael, are you so narrow minded to think that the pensioners receiving this increase never paid tax throughout their working life. That is an elitist view of the current financial predicament many older people find themselves in. The same stuck up view this Government has of anyone who doesn't fit in with their posh upper class mentality. Not everyone had a private school education or the opportunity to amass financial stability. Don't you realise that wages jumped in value dramatically in a very short space of time. Many people retired thinking they had a nice nest egg. Within a few years it became a pittance. Sure, crack down on dole bludgers, I wholeheartedly agree but instead of wasting money by giving it away overseas at the rate they have been lately, and letting the wealthy snobs in this country hide their money away in trust funds and company rorts, give some of it back to the people who have worked their butts off and now deserve a decent go.
neil
12th Sep 2017
1:57pm
$30million of your money to NEWS LTD. no paper work
$120million of your money to get a government off the hook
You an O.A.P. $6.10 per fortnight.

Neil
KSS
12th Sep 2017
2:23pm
Now multiply that $6.10 (and don't forget all the other increments on all the other bits of welfare like rent allowance,) by the number of recipients and calculate the on-going cost before making spurious comparisons Neil.
Mike
12th Sep 2017
2:33pm
I consider myself fortunate being on a single pension and owning my own home outright. My health is not the best but I still find the time and energy to help those less fortunate by volunteering.
More shoulders to the wheel would be much appreciated.
Come on and give it a go....we still the lucky country if you take note of whats happening outside Australia.
Aussie
12th Sep 2017
2:42pm
Come on people and increase is an increase .... be happy that is 6.10 rather than 0.00 and the rules still in place for 2 increases x year and the lib's did not change this rules also to save money for the budget .... so be happy and do not complain
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
3:11pm
Agree Aussie

Talking about coffee and pork chops - for heavens sake

$500 a year extra is pretty good going in my opinion. That's a months groceries taken care of
Aussie
13th Sep 2017
3:12pm
Well Raphael ... All this must come from the CLASSY Great Britain winger .... that is why we call them Pommies wingers .... and most of this people are originally from UK or there parents are or where.

Nothing we can do is part of there DNA ....sorry to say that but is true....
Stan
12th Sep 2017
2:44pm
To the top public servants in the premiers department in Canberra who are on $840,000 a year in salary now. Will receive a 12% increase, which equates to $70,000 a year. Or put another way,the increase alone is THREE TIMES what a single pensioner receives in his total BENEFITS.
And they call that fair?
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
3:08pm
why do you confuse pension with employment income ?
Not a Bludger
12th Sep 2017
7:44pm
Quite right Raphael.

And Stan, why do you dare say that the cash money that you get for free and tax free is not fair - just count your blessings.
Rainey
16th Sep 2017
2:35pm
How do you figure pensioners get money ''for free', Not a Bludger? Most slaved for far less than they produced for 4 or 5 decades, contributing to the wealth of the greedy elite and the obscene salaries of the useless seat-warming politicians and senior bureaucrats - most of whom have no idea what ''work'' is.

Add to that, many pensioners do extensive charity and community work.

And pension income is far from tax-free. Pensioners pay GST on everything, plus petrol tax, alcohol tax, cigarette tax, council rates... it goes on and on and on. A huge portion of their miserable income goes in taxes.
Rainey
16th Sep 2017
2:39pm
BTW. I am not a pensioner. I'm still working way past retirement age. And I'm very happy to contribute to the cost of paying pensions to deserving Australians. What I am NOT happy to do is contribute to the obscene tax concessions to overpaid senior bureaucrats, CEOs, company directors, senior executives, and fat-cat businessmen.

I would be pleased to see substantial increases in pensions, and I would not complain about contributing to the cost of such increases. But giving $65 billion in company tax cuts? That's disgraceful and I sure resent contributing to the cost of doing that.
floss
12th Sep 2017
2:45pm
Good to see the Greed is Good Club back in full cry,putting crap on Pensioners . For the record I am not a pensioner but I do support a fair go as was practiced in Australia a long time ago.
Bling Bling
12th Sep 2017
3:09pm
Thank you Grandma Kathleen22, Raphael and Mike ... it's nice to read comments from folks who appreciate the pension being paid to them. I too have the same view that we are so lucky because there are a lot of countries that don't ... just a shame we have so many whingers who really enjoy complaining about everything and anything....
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
3:29pm
great post Bling
agree with you 100%

sick of the people who whinge every time they get a pension increase
Billy
12th Sep 2017
5:04pm
Judging some of the comments I get the impression that its a case of 'stuff you Jack, I'm alright'. Probably living in your comfort zone and fortunate to have no mortgage commitments , very fortunate indeed, the majority of aged pensioners are not so lucky.
Aussie
13th Sep 2017
3:16pm
Bling Bling .... Is part of Great Britain winger culture and part of there DNA ... sorry mate nothing we can do ..... is all inverter on there brains and can not be taken out ..... and the older they get they become bigger wingers .......
floss
12th Sep 2017
3:15pm
I find it is strange that some people are down on a pensioner getting a few dollars a week extra while some C.E.O.s getting over 13 million per year and doing lousy job. And you call your self Australian get real and you think you are born to rule you don't have the brains for it.
Raphael
12th Sep 2017
3:29pm
I find it strange youre comparing a pension to salary of a CEO of a major corporation
Grateful
12th Sep 2017
4:19pm
Raphael. It's relatively speaking.
Age pensioners have probably worked for over 50 years to receive that benefit, where one year's pension relates to less than a day's "work" for the CEO.
Yes, we are in the best country in the world but are treated like second class citizens.
Thanks to Tony Abbott the rate of increase has been slashed from a percentage of the minimum wage to the CPI, by far, the lower of the two.
Eddy
12th Sep 2017
5:48pm
Actually Grateful the pension is indexed by PBLCI or CPI, whichever is the greater. PBLCI (Public Beneficiary living Cost Index) is set at about 27% of average weekly earnings. With wage stagnation we are seeing nowadays the PBLCI and CPI are almost identical in percentage terms. There was a proposal to change from PBLCI to CPI in the last Hockey budget but the enabling legislation has not yet been presented to Parliament. I suggest it will never even be presented given the current state of the Parliament.
MITZY
12th Sep 2017
5:14pm
Singles: $6.10 increase per fortnight. $6.10 x 26 pays per year = $158.60
$158.60 divide into 365 days in the year - 0.43452054794 CENTS per day.
Not entirely correct because we will get another few cents in March 2018!
I wonder how they worked out such a meagre amount per day?
I wonder how many cents per day they receive for doing WHAT?
KB
12th Sep 2017
5:21pm
I guess this small amount is better than nothing. Cost of li living keeps on increasing no matter how you budget
Argydubbaya
13th Sep 2017
7:11am
All this argument about entitlements. What crap! All my life I paid my way, never asked for a "handout". Those governments stole my money from consolidated revenue and now won't give it back without filling in multiple forms several times a year, and if I find a part time job and don't tell them I go to jail. Meanwhile they sell off all the infrastructure I helped pay for and tell me I can have an extra $6 per week? Must be getting close to election time.
AutumnOz
13th Sep 2017
8:27am
Argydubbaya, it is $6 per fortnight, not per week, which makes it a mere pittance.
I agree with your other comments. We have all seen the results of the privitisation of various government owned companies e.g. electricity, and the selling off of infrastructure can do nothing but harm.
It is the loss of assets such as produce from our gas reserves and sale of Australian land that will cause more and more problems for Australians as time goes on. It is getting to the point where we are guests in our own country.
Cranky
13th Sep 2017
2:09pm
Dear Mr Porter, What a load of s..t, $4.60 a fortnight for a member of a couple. We talk about equality (Same sex marrieage. Whe are members of a married couple going to be treated like all other pensioners, that is singles, those living in defacto relationship, an d those married couples claiming that they no longer live as a couple and get the single pension. Lets bring some "EQUALITY" to pensioners and treat all pensioner the "SAME" not some better than others. I worked and paid taxes until I was almost 76 years old, that is almost 11 years over the pension age existing at that time, and I expect and should receive EQUALITY", and $4.60 that won't eve buy a cup of coffe let alone keep up with the cost of living. Lets see the politicians live with a $4.60 increase to their pay instead of of the thousands they get for doing nothing
Billy
14th Sep 2017
2:43am
Totally agree with you and the difference between single and couple's rate is getting greater - why? As for Aussie - on ya bike, obviously you are one of the 'stuff you Jack - I'm alright' brigade.
Aussie
14th Sep 2017
12:05pm
Yeahh Billy boy/girl ??? Whatever ....well you just fall down into the wingers bucket he he he I nrw someone will fall into my wingers bucket ... yeah mate bike girls sex ...yeah all with my pension and no I only care about us the real pensioners that live with what we have and thanks God we have the Aussie pension ...so dear winger tjink before u open your trap ...he he hr wrlcome to my wingers bucket ...lets have fun ...I am bore please more comments ...he he he
Aussie
13th Sep 2017
3:13pm
6.10 is good money for us that live only on the pension .... Thanks for the increase is welcome on my book.
Aussie
13th Sep 2017
3:24pm
Lets have fun with the Wingers .... come on more comets you wingers .....
freed1948
13th Sep 2017
10:19pm
NO comment!!!!!
Aussie
14th Sep 2017
12:22pm
Ok mate . No worries you did not fall into my wingers bucket he he good person ....be happy is good feeling with what you have take care mate
udo1103
14th Sep 2017
5:31pm
well, i'm still thinking how to spend $ 6.10 per fortnight...it's a real challenge...
Felines_Rule
15th Sep 2017
4:55pm
Well all those idiots voted for Turnbull and now they are complaining.
Tough, suck it up then !

The Labor Government were very generous with a one-off $1500 payout and variouos other little perks and increases. Bring 'em back I say !

At least under previous Liberal Governments the rich may have got richer; but the poor didnt continually get poorer as they have been doing of recent times !!!
Mike
16th Sep 2017
2:55pm
Well thanks Felines_ Rule. Waiting for more handouts from Labor?
A tad extreme methinks.
I certainly hope not.
A point to ponder is the 'one off' was taken directly from a surplus the Libs had accumulated. Rudd released this one off as stimulation to the economy in response to the GFC to avoid a recession.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2009/02/04/1233423265116.html
Personally i don't want any more handouts if they are to be predicated on another GFC.
Jansview
17th Sep 2017
12:23pm
Yes, and funny how Australia came out of the GFC better than any other country in the western world!! Now Turncoat and his gang of thieves are borrowing more money - only $4 billion, not much when you say it quickly - at an interest rate of 4%, why you ask, so they can lend it to overseas who will be paying it back at an interest rate of 2.5%. Passed through the Senate this week. Good economics and value for money that loan!!
Cranky
18th Sep 2017
3:47pm
Christian PORTER, how about you give me your wage and I will give you my pension for twelve months and then you come back and let me know how you feel. You politicians are all the same fill your own pockets, and don't give a damn about the rest of us. We, pensioners all worked (well most did) and paid our due hoping to receive a fair and liveable pension when we retired. What happened to the pension fund we all contributed to. I'll tell what happened Governments used it for general revenue and are still doing it and filling their pockets at the same time. Lets bring back Kevin RUDD as Prime Minister and all of us oldies will be much better off. We have the situation now where everyone of our Politicians, or most, are fighting for "Equal Rights" for same sex marriage, and wasting 122 million dollars in conducting a postal survey, What about "Equal Rights" for Pensioners. We are all individuals and deserve to be treated as being "EQUA".


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