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stuart robert

Minister for government services Stuart Robert is in the hot seat after being spotted baptising tourists in Israel when he was supposed to be sitting in parliament.

The federal minister was holidaying in Israel with his wife Chantelle, leading a two-week Treasures of Grace Tour on behalf of his Pentecostal church.

His tour was promoted as a journey where people could 'walk in the footsteps of Jesus' at a cost $5600 per person, reported the Daily Mail.

Mr Robert took personal leave from parliament to go on the journey. Parliament only sat for a total of 35 days this year.

Photos of Mr Robert dunking a woman during a baptism ceremony in the Jordan River have brought on a flood of criticism and calls for his head.

“This is a bloke who the taxpayer is paying ... and instead of representing the Gold Coast, he's overseas swimming with his mates,” a Labor MP told the Courier Mail.

“Who does he think he is – the f**king Messiah?”

A spokeserson for Mr Robert retaliated, saying he had approval for leave from parliament and that he’d paid for the family trip out of his own pocket.

“People of faith have come to expect these sorts of attacks from Labor,” said the spokesperson.

“The minister had approved leave and attended the trip with his family in a personal capacity and at his own expense as a volunteer with his local church.”

The Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) also defended Mr Robert.

“Were this to be a MP on personal leave making a pilgrimage according to the tenets of other faiths, nobody would raise an eyebrow – they might even praise their piety,” ACL head Dan Flynn told the Daily Mail Australia

Mr Robert’s religion has landed him in hot water before.

In March this year, taxpayers footed the bill for him to attend a Hillsong mega church conference with his wife.

Taxpayers stumped up $2326 for his travel and accommodation, including $672 for wife Chantelle.

The government claims he was asked to represent the government at the five-day Hillsong conference.

Last year, he ripped off $2000 a month from taxpayers for his internet bills and was eventually forced to pay back almost $38,000. 

In 2016, then prime minister Malcolm Turnbull sacked Mr Robert for breaching ministerial rules during a secretive trip to China he made in 2014, after it was revealed Mr Robert had an indirect financial stake in the company he helped in Beijing.

Mr Robert also currently oversees the government’s robo-debt scheme, which was last week found to be unlawful by the federal court.

He has also gone on record as saying, “We will not apologise ... for ... [what] we are lawfully required to do.”

One wonders if one is soon on the way.

Do you think it’s right for an MP to take time off from the very limited time he or she is required to sit in parliament? Is the furore around Mr Robert warranted?

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    ronloby
    11th Dec 2019
    9:32am
    This man should NOT be in parliament, State or Federal. He is there for his own agenda, not the public he is supposedly representing.
    Arvo
    11th Dec 2019
    10:18am
    Who would have thought that a federal government minister would've been caught out with his hand in the cookie jar?
    And, he is the Minister for Government Services?
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    10:28am
    Who would have thought that a government minister would be there for his/her own agenda and not to serve the people?
    libsareliars
    11th Dec 2019
    12:02pm
    It just goes on and on doesn't it. Get rid of this man he is a leech.
    Hoohoo
    13th Dec 2019
    3:45pm
    There seems to be no accountability for anyone in this shameless government - they just do as they please, and in the meantime, ride roughshod over ordinary people.

    Where are the laws to protect us?
    Blinky
    15th Dec 2019
    12:50pm
    Yes, many a thief has gone to jail x a lot less. Stealing is stealing no matter whi u are!!!
    Batara
    11th Dec 2019
    9:37am
    This goes to a matter of judgement, not religion. How many think this minister showed sound judgement in taking leave from Parliament when he should have been representing his constituents and carrying out ministerial duties. Surely there is enough non-sitting days in the year without taking leave when he should be in Parliament. This is not the first time Robert has shown extremely shaky judgement. And yet he continues his Robodebt attacks on the vulnerable. If we had a worthwhile PM Robert would be out on his ear.
    KSS
    11th Dec 2019
    3:17pm
    Given he was leading a group of people from his church, I'd say he was, at least in part, representing his constituents.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    10:40pm
    Unlike Islamism (as opposed to Islam pure and simple), which is a state based on a religious concept, and is viewed by its adherents as a state without borders, we, Of The West, do not adhere to any religious concept as being a 'state without borders' which has the ability to interfere with the secular operation of our society... and our democracy.

    Religious belief can be,indeed, a 'state without borders' - but in a secular society it can never be more than a moral or spiritual one...

    Regardez-vous the difference between Islamic interpretations of 'jihad' - the average, so-called moderate Muslim accepts, in accordance with at least six of the seven schools of Islamic thought, that jihad is spiritual development. The fundamentalist, extreme Muslims are swayed to the idea that it means endless war against any who do not believe as they do.

    Thus, any religious activity that supercedes, in OUR society, the duty to perform and adhere to secular matters on behalf of all the people, is not acceptable.

    Those 'constituents' that you cite may not even be in his electorate... and unless they are, cannot be his 'constituents'. He is from Queenslund (where, you mark my words, they do things diff'runtly!) - Hillsong is in Carlingford, Sydney.... what are the odds that NONE of them belong to his constituency?

    Your wit is appreciated.... I'm merely clarifying...
    ex PS
    13th Dec 2019
    10:55am
    KSS, that might hold water, if he did not accept a gratuity for his services. You can't get paid twice for the same job.
    Hoohoo
    13th Dec 2019
    3:53pm
    Yes, KKS, he was representing a tiny minority of his constituents - but only the chosen ones!
    Blinky
    15th Dec 2019
    12:53pm
    I agree with Batara. Religion has nothing to do with it.
    It's HOW AND WHAT you do that matters.
    He should not be an "honorable" minister!!!!
    MICK
    11th Dec 2019
    9:54am
    How many lives does Angus Taylor have? Same question. Answer: an unlimited number.
    When you have a fake government which governs for one group only, the wealthy, then you get arrogance and the abandonment of the law.
    Watch SBS program from Michael Moore called 'Capitalism'. The parallels with our own crooked government with its tentacles reaching into all positions of power will be obvious.
    There is no limit to wrongdoing. The fact that the prime minister will not require Angus Taylor to face a police enquiry is evidence of that.
    Incognito
    13th Dec 2019
    11:22pm
    Don't you love Michael Moore films, really gets to the real issues. Scomo loves the USA and wants Australia to be like it with all their evangelistic churches, no tax for churches, and basically a free ride for the privileged while the poor just die on the streets.
    Tanker
    11th Dec 2019
    10:04am
    The days of ministerial responsibility ended with Howard. Hawke and Fraser both sacked Ministers who failed to show responsibility in personal matters but Howard stopped doing that after he sacked so many of them.
    Roberts has had too many lives and does not appear to be a fit and proper person for the role and Taylor seems to lack true integrity.
    It is people like that who have reduced the standing of politicians to the level they now are.
    Tanker
    11th Dec 2019
    10:04am
    The days of ministerial responsibility ended with Howard. Hawke and Fraser both sacked Ministers who failed to show responsibility in personal matters but Howard stopped doing that after he sacked so many of them.
    Roberts has had too many lives and does not appear to be a fit and proper person for the role and Taylor seems to lack true integrity.
    It is people like that who have reduced the standing of politicians to the level they now are.
    Paddington
    11th Dec 2019
    10:09am
    You cannot make this stuff up lol. Reading here we are all laughing. Where to start on how ludicrous this is? The money, the religion, 35 days, etc!

    11th Dec 2019
    10:36am
    Seriously - you need to be concerned over these dead-head religious types of any persuasion being in Parliament... it is obvious that their religious addiction comes a long way before their secular duty to the people...

    Of course, my first thought was 'Queenslander' ... they have some real beauties up that way in the religious sphere.. out there in some places Jesus really saves, you know.... as fundamental as a Wahhabi...
    Ted Wards
    11th Dec 2019
    11:02am
    lol well people are still saying up here that its a good thing we don't have daylight savings, think of the money we've saved in curtains (insert rolling eyes and a "how can be people be so stupid" comment).
    Grammy
    11th Dec 2019
    10:39am
    This hypocrite has to go!! He was elected by some fools to do a job that does not include baptising people in the polluted River Jordan!! Who does he think he is?? So typical of the calibre of some of our federal politicians.
    cupoftea
    11th Dec 2019
    10:39am
    He just sits and laughs you suckers you put me here
    Triss
    11th Dec 2019
    11:08am
    Tragically, cupoftea, you're right.
    Wake Up
    11th Dec 2019
    12:51pm
    Your spot on You Suckers, My question is did they vote for him or blindly vote for the party that supports him ?
    Wake Up
    11th Dec 2019
    12:51pm
    Your spot on You Suckers, My question is did they vote for him or blindly vote for the party that supports him ?
    Hoohoo
    14th Dec 2019
    6:03pm
    Our democracy is a shambles when you think that Clive Palmer disrupted the last election by spending $70million (he boasts he's got $4,000 million) with mass propaganda, but with no intention of winning a seat - just directing preferences to the right wing coal-lovers. It is how the election was won.

    Meanwhile, his zinc mine workers are still owed about $70million in backpay & redundancies.

    And Trump spends US$1 million per week on Facebook - directing propaganda traffic to the fools who feed on his fake news.
    Incognito
    14th Dec 2019
    6:13pm
    Yes our democracy is being slowly demolished, it is scary. Be interesting if Trump does get impeached, wish we could do the same in Australia. Our PM does not even want to buy firefighters proper masks to fight fires so they don't breathe in toxic fumes.
    Politicians should be banned from fakebook.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    11:44am
    What a wonderful and sensible idea, musicveg! And ban politicians from Twitter and all other social media platforms.

    After all, these platforms are called "social media", not " political media" or "propaganda media".
    Travellersjoy
    11th Dec 2019
    10:40am
    Good grief!

    And commentators are puzzled about why Australians support personal religious belief, but NOT organised religion.

    If anyone can show anything that has caused more pain, suffering and destruction than religion or the hatred of a particular religious group, I would like to hear about it.

    No wonder Centrelink is a mess.
    No wonder Centrelink actively abuses and exploits citizens.
    No wonder robodebt has rolled on unimpeded - there is no-one home to be the responsible minister because he cares about his own little clique more than the electorate and citizenry he is supposedly serving.

    Serving up garbage is what is there to see. Why is this man in Parliament? Let someone else pay him the same huge salary for running their affairs because he he ain't taking care of ours.
    Hoohoo
    14th Dec 2019
    6:17pm
    So true what you said about organised religions, Tjoy.
    They make up their own rules like it's OK to preach that women are unequal to men, that it's OK for children to be abused, no poofters allowed, & it's OK that poor people are punished for their misfortune and then they totally ignore the main messages from Jesus "Love one another as I have loved you" and "Love thy neighbour" and "Do unto others..."

    Why should these hypocrites be given special protection to impose their unjust and stupid rules?
    TOR888
    11th Dec 2019
    10:41am
    This parasite is a feral conman along with Dutton and his best buddy Jesus Morrison...what a disgrace and most of these thugs come from Qld..Canavan, Fat George and Pauline..
    libsareliars
    11th Dec 2019
    12:04pm
    Spot on TOR888
    Incognito
    13th Dec 2019
    11:25pm
    Yes sire ree, I wanna just be like an americano: Dutton, Scomo and friends.

    11th Dec 2019
    10:46am
    Footnote:- Elsewhere I've been insinuating into discussion the concept of Fifth Columns' extant in Australia at this time...

    My beef with each and every one of these Fiofth columns - whether they be feminist, or religious based, or based on capital, or based on leftist ideology, or on whatever - is that they have an absolute sense of Entitlement™ to use their elected position to further their own limited ends - and NOT those of the people overall.

    Some may argue that this is the working of democracy, and ensures that every point of view is heard etc... but I differ - when too many like-minded individuals, such as in labor, come together to form a bloc to promote their specific self-interest - their policies become policies of exclusion of the majority - not of inclusion of minorities. Hence my insinuation into discussion elsewhere of the concept of 'policies of exclusion' - to counter-balance the claimed 'policies of inclusion', and, hopefully, seek a thorough and fair hearing of all relevant 'sides' on any given issue.

    How many 'issues' have been 'resolved' without any reference to any but a small, self-enclosed single side interest group? Ayers Rock? Indigenous 'Rights'? Gay 'Rights'? Women's "Rights"? Ethnic "Rights"? Immigration? Industrial Relations?

    Hence my insinuation into discussion of the term "The Silenced Majority" (not Reagan's "Silent Majority".... more like Harlan Ellison's "I have no mouth, but I must scream").
    Kaz
    11th Dec 2019
    2:06pm
    What are you talking about ? No matter the subject, you seem to leave out your lib mates and throw in a lefty comment like it’s a bad thing (I think, because your drivel was confusing)
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    4:18pm
    You're kidding, right? I always bag the LNP first and foremost - they're not 'my mates' - but that doesn't mean I have to avidly pursue pussy-whipped and minority- division Labor, either..

    The disease of the mind that some call 'leftism'/progressivism is not exclusive to one party and the lines are not hard and fast ... and did you somehow miss 'industrial relations'? If I'd said 'industrial relations reform' would you have caught on?
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    12:21pm
    Agreed, Kaz, TREBOR's post is confusing and most definitely drivel, in part.

    TREBOR you make the same mistake that Morrison constantly makes, believing HIS opinion is shared by everyone else. He thinks because he was voted in as PM, he is now entitled to say and impose whatever he likes BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA VOTED FOR. Utter rubbish, of course. Even of those who voted Liberal (less than 40% of voters) many voted out of fear of lies told about social justice leading to communism, rather than agreeing with Morrison that humans don't cause climate change or wanting more coal mines and coal burning.

    Entitlement lives in the homes of many old, white males. Accusing feminists of
    "...they have an absolute sense of Entitlement™ to use their elected position to further their own limited ends - and NOT those of the people overall." is a sick joke. You obviously believe that "...the people overall" are made up of old, white males, just because they are the dominant ones (and you're one of them TREBOR). Well mate, the truth is that 51% of the population are female. Women ARE the people. Our society would fall apart within a week without them.

    And what on Earth are "... these Fifth columns" you despise so much?
    Kimbooli
    9th Jan 2020
    9:32pm
    TREBOR.
    Your comments started off harmless enough, however this one made glaringly obvious that you are just a self important bigot like everyone in the government.
    Of course there are groups here that would definitely fit the definition of the supposed fifth column, just look at Murdoch's media, MCA and the IPA!
    However attacking the Indigenous, women, ethnic groups, LGBTQ, workers etc is just racist, bigoted and sexist plain and simple.
    If a group of people who thought like you got together, by definition they would fit the fifth column, because your attitude/belief/opinion...whatever, is extremely counter-productive and actually undermines our society.
    Ted Wards
    11th Dec 2019
    10:59am
    If it was pre-approved personal leave then I don't see what the issue is. As long as we didnt pay for it. I think he should also repay the money to attend the Hillsong conference. Our politicians do not as a rule go so other conferences of a similar type. Personal religion should never be brought into politics that way that our latest debacle of a prime minister has!
    I think this minister has held the public in contempt to many times and been dishonest too many times, even for a politician.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    4:19pm
    Cwucify him .... and cwucify him well!
    Bellbird
    11th Dec 2019
    11:36am
    I personally don't have a problem with what he does on a personal holiday. However, I think it bizarre for a self-professing Christian to be presiding over a vicious robo-debt system, where honest people are put through the anguish of what amount to fraudulent debt notices - with the onus on the victims to prove innocence. How can he be supporting a system where people too disabled to work are denied the DSP and forced onto the penury of Newstart? Sadly, the prosperity theology enthusiasts fail to register that many people are in poverty, unemployed, and homeless through no fault of their own. They are too immersed in saving themselves: the downtrodden can get stuffed. How much do the Hillsong types do out in the community to help the poor who are not of their persuasion?
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    4:23pm
    God helps those who help themselves, and those without the wherewithal cannot help themselves when confronted by the legions of those who help themselves from the treasury so as to live it up at our expense.

    You'll work it out... I warned decades ago that governments, once somewhat controlled by the underlying knowledge that they did have a duty to serve the nation and people, also knew, at the same time, that the people had no effective way of contesting any issue with them.

    When things started to go pear-shaped (a good term for this), and governments started to behave like children, and push the edges of the envelop with their more and more inane ideas and schemes that steadily eroded the rights of the ordinary person - nobody could halt them.... so now it is clearly open season on the taxpayer.

    Who's going to stop them in this lemming rush to self-enrichment?
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    4:31pm
    Pentecostalism is not true Christianity: it's heretical.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:47pm
    What I'm sort of referring to here is the 'social contract' between government and people.... that Social Contract to which governments here and elsewhere in the English Empire were forced by the blood sacrifice of millions in massive wars - a suffering from which those who did the suffering came home with the absolute aim of getting a better deal from their nation they fought, bled, suffered and sometimes died for.

    As time has taken away all the old Warriors of those conflicts.. the conflicts in which there were sufficient numbers to force government to toe the line - governments have progressively moved further and further away from that Social Contract... and more and more into despotism of the people.

    They also diluted the strain by immigration policies that brought in masses of people who have and had no idea what that Contract was... take a look at NSW Parliament now... where are the Aussies? Look at the nonsense surrounding ANZAC Day and Australia Day...

    We, the People, need to take back the asylum and restore that Contract that our fathers and grandfathers fought and died for .... before it is too late...
    Rosret
    15th Dec 2019
    11:53am
    If he went while Parliament was sitting then I am surprised his party allowed it. If its just normal leave during the year he can do what he wants.

    My personal view is that I am not an advocate of religion and politics in the one basket -however he isn't my local member so his electorate mustn't mind.
    neil
    11th Dec 2019
    11:38am
    They 'politicians' of all stripes are treating us, the voter, as children; down here, Tasmania, we had a politician hiring a private aeroplane to fly return to Canberra, daily; it was then charged on the public purse; contrary to the party guidelines and Federal parliament guidelines. This sponge was caught out and instead of been sacked was allowed to pay back the monies. This person still sits in parliament.
    Neil.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    12:33pm
    Yes Neil, THIS is why no-one trusts politicians any more. We know they lie and bully as part of their job, but when they're caught, they're not punished?

    I tell you what, if you lie to the ATO and get caught, THERE ARE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES that go beyond a tap across the wrist and paying back what you've been fraudulent about.

    Why aren't there consequences for these leech politicians? SACK THEM and ban them from any other political position forever - they've been proven to be dishonest. They should never be given the opportunity to represent voters ever again.
    neil
    11th Dec 2019
    11:38am
    They 'politicians' of all stripes are treating us, the voter, as children; down here, Tasmania, we had a politician hiring a private aeroplane to fly return to Canberra, daily; it was then charged on the public purse; contrary to the party guidelines and Federal parliament guidelines. This sponge was caught out and instead of been sacked was allowed to pay back the monies. This person still sits in parliament.
    Neil.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    10:46pm
    As I've said many times here and elsewhere - our crop of politicians view the electorate as just a herd of cattle to be guided and used and dispensed with as required... this is precisely the position of the pre-revolution Russian 'communists' - who viewed the common people as just cattle in the field - and The People as being THEIR class.... the educated, intellectual, middle class elite... better in all ways than the peasants, and better than the inbred, six-toed aristocracy (etc)...

    The more things change, the more they remain the same....

    What I've written above should ring many a bell.... about our "educated, intellectual, middle class elite"... and how they manifest themselves in our current world and society.......
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    10:51pm
    I saw the news today (oh, boy).... was it Josh Frydenburg who, in discussing 'climate change' and its effects, and how Australia was 'dragging last' on changes... that he would 'rely on the views of experts and scientists''?

    Does he realise that the Supreme Court of Oz has laid down, many years ago, that the 'opinion' of an 'expert' must be supported by hard facts.......

    What are the 'hard facts' of 'climate change'?

    Our current drought? Bush fires? Smoke haze?"

    How do those discrete activities 'prove' "climate change"?

    Where are the FACTS that prove our drought is the result of 'climate change'? What about bushfires? They are the result of drought........ it's dry - things burn ....
    Rosret
    15th Dec 2019
    12:03pm
    Trebor if anyone so much as mentions the word CC on TV at the moment I change channels.

    Its political commentary and has nothing to do drought mitigation and fire hazard reduction.
    Focus on the real issues at hand. Kids setting fire to the bush, major land clearing etc etc. The MDBS. The $1 a Lt milk debacle.

    I am so over the ABC. Because it doesn't fit in with their political agenda the facts are getting washed away with some stupid office locked Uni professor with "an opinion" they pull out every time there is a natural disaster.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    12:36pm
    Yes Neil, THIS is why no-one trusts politicians any more. We know they lie and bully as part of their job, but when they're caught, they're not punished?

    I tell you what, if you lie to the ATO and get caught, THERE ARE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES that go beyond a tap across the wrist and paying back what you've been fraudulent about.

    Why aren't there consequences for these leech politicians? SACK THEM and ban them from any other political position forever - they've been proven to be dishonest. They should never be given the opportunity to represent voters ever again.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    2:01pm
    There's not one scientist, expert in the field of climate change, who will say a single weather event is caused by climate change. However, what 99% of these experts do say is that land clearing, feeding cattle grain and burning fossil fuels (human-induced activities) will make all weather events worse and more extreme, including oceans inundating people's homes, livelihoods and in some cases, their whole country.

    Last week in NSW we had 120 bushfires burning while snow fell on the Snowy Mountains. The consequences of all those burning fires will only add to the carbon in the atmosphere.
    The consequences ol growing cotton and almond orchards, and using ground water pumped up to feed coal seam gas and coal mines, will only take from the water in the Murray/Darling basin, with polluted water returned.
    Meanwhile, the family farmers trying to grow our food are stranded without water or the means to buy it. And rural communities have no water to drink.
    These things are all connected, yet Newscorp and the shockjocks will not discuss it, despite records of extremes being continually broken. They continually quote the 1% of expert scientists who have found some anomalies in the data. But seriously, why do otherwise sensible lay people believe the 1%, Newscorp and shockjocks, but question the validity of 99% of the experts? I think they've been brainwashed.

    Be sure, Rosret, the ABC is not the problem. In fact, they're the only ones showing both sides of what is a 99%-1% one-sided argument.

    Blaming Greenies for fires that killed people is typical of these liars. How can you backburn when there's a total fire ban? Then they have the hide to tell people "this is no time for discussing climate change because you're being insensitive at this terrible time". Insensitive to who? Adani?
    BTM
    11th Dec 2019
    11:44am
    What is even more concerning is that these shonkeys continue to be re-elected. I guess it also says a lot about the LNP pre-selection process as well.
    older&wiser
    11th Dec 2019
    11:47am
    For heaven's sake, not another MP putting religion ahead of his elected responsibilities. Do the job you are elected and paid to do, leave your religion to do in your own private time at your expense.
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    11:53am
    Why are we sending a rep to a Hill Song shindig overseas. What is the reason for this and how will it help all the population. It won't, it will benefit the twit and his fellow bible study mates and the liar from the shire who meet just about daily when at parliament house for bible study
    PeteE
    11th Dec 2019
    12:02pm
    35 sitting days is an absolute disgrace and then for this Scomo mate Pentecostal zealot to take leave during part of those 35 days: then not to apologise for robodebt: then to “represent the Government “ at a Hillsong Conference on tax payers money (how many ministers represented the Government at non-Pentecostal conferences... none I bet - what a lame, transparent excuse - this guy has to go! No ifs, buts or maybes!
    libsareliars
    11th Dec 2019
    12:06pm
    They are making absolute fools of the Australian people aren't they? They must hold us in such contempt that they think it's ok to do this sort of stuff.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    4:34pm
    LaL, the Australian people ARE fools: they voted these incompetent, nefarious scumbags back into government.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    2:10pm
    He didn't claim it as an expense PeteE but he did pike on his job responsibilities and Australia. Yep, the LNP KNOW we are idiots. Either that, or not rich and easily frightened.

    Hitler would admire them for their ability to manipulate people and spread propaganda so effectively. How good was Hitler?
    Spud
    11th Dec 2019
    12:16pm
    Religion again! 35 sitting days ! Represent your constituents! Keep your beliefs in your house or church ! And what do we get ? Whinging about “ the persecuted Christians “ ohhh don’t you love it!
    Crabapple
    11th Dec 2019
    12:21pm
    He should be gone! For such an important portfolio, we need a minister who is committed to his job and the people he is meant to be looking after. I’ve nothing against his religion but it should be coming second to his ministerial position.
    floss
    11th Dec 2019
    12:44pm
    This Federal Government do a lot less damage when they are not there in parliament.As they say beware of religious fanatics.
    samadhi_sam
    11th Dec 2019
    12:53pm
    Stuart Robert needs to be sacked from the Ministry as a matter of high priority & Scott Morrison needs to have the balls to do it. Stuart Robert is obviously far more interested in his religious beliefs than he is in acting as an honest and diligent member of parliament, let alone as a Minister of the government. We all remember how Stuart Robert ripped off at least $38,000 for "Internet expenses" last year and was forced to repay this amount. He is the Minister for Robodebt which hunts down those the government (very often wrongly) believes were overpaid an amount by Centrelink.
    I have voted Liberal most of my life but will not do so again unless Morrison shows he can lead by sacking Stuart Robert and Angus Taylor. If not, Morrison should resign and take up a full time role with Hillsong and it's child molester protecting chief. Morrison obviously cares more about Hillsong than he does about being a good member of parliament, the fact he will not release the list of people he wanted to invite to dinner with Donald Trump tells a lot about how crooked Morrison is!
    Triss
    11th Dec 2019
    1:28pm
    Is a Pentacostlian allowed to sack another Pentacostlian? That might be the sticking point.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:24pm
    New Masons - they look out for one another - God's will, innit? Promote and Protect God's Children who Know the True Way, and you cannot go wrong, right?

    Do these clowns think they are somehow being a counter-weight to Islamist extremism, Wahhabism, or something?
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    2:30pm
    samadhi_sam, It's good to hear from Liberal voters who still believe in honesty, accountability and ethics.

    I don't think either major Party is representative of the majority of voters anymore. The problem with that is it leaves an opening for manipulators to use Clive Palmer-type liars, who promise everyone everything and whose sole purpose is to disrupt and re-direct preferences back to the coal-lovers, while those who voted for him feel better because they think they didn't vote for Labor or Liberal.

    If they want to pray they can do it in their own time, like the rest of us. There is no place for it in a secular country like Australia. Same goes for chaplains in schools replacing trained councellors. Same goes for prayers before parliament class starts. Who do they think they are, trying to dominate us with their own personal version of religion? They have no right.
    inextratime
    11th Dec 2019
    1:13pm
    Lets not get too excited. Pollies have been taking the micky for years on both sides of the house so no free kicks for ether side thanks. The overall problem with today's political scene is that because the senate is so tight and that a few unelected senators hold the balance of power, no side can take action on misbehaviour in case it costs them the government. Over the past 12 years no party has been able to take a decisive political stance, hence a weak approach to basic discipline and that's why we are going down the plug faster than the proverbial bath water.
    Viking
    11th Dec 2019
    2:23pm
    I have no problem with Christians per se but if politicians make that claim for political benefit then they should be held to those Christian values. Isn't is just incredible though how many of these Christo-pollies lie, deceive, rip-off and steal from the public and do not do a fair days work yet the public are stupid enough to keep voting them in. I am starting to wonder whether our country is being run by a Hillsong Hillbilly cult and we are the suckers filling up the offering plate. Maybe we should all join the same church then they'd have the obligation to look after the public in the same way that they look after and protect each other.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    2:46pm
    Yes, Viking, it is their hypocracy that stinks so much. Do as I say, not as I do. There are special rules for the chosen ones.

    The Jesus I learned about when I was a child would be ashamed of them. He'd cast them out of the temple - the only aggressive act I recall Jesus ever doing in the Bible stories.

    I'm presuming it's true that Jesus is a real, historical figure described in great detail in the Bible. I'm not sure of its accuracy, especially given the many translations & "updates", (like in 553AD when the Ecumenical Council of Nicea voted to delete out any reference to reincarnation in the Bible). What I don't believe is that the Bible was written by a god or THE god - that's preposterous! It was all written by blokes.
    Trisha
    11th Dec 2019
    2:29pm
    Spreading the Pentecostal word does not take into consideration the multitude of faiths that are in Australia.Roberts is hand in glove with Scomo,& holding the Govt. purse of Australia in Centrelink social services.
    101
    13th Dec 2019
    12:30pm
    That's how deep this Cult has gone.
    Horace Cope
    11th Dec 2019
    2:35pm
    I'd like to quote Anthony Albanese and it's on the subject of keyboard warriors. He claims that the increase in anger and misinformation online is destroying the political system. He also believes that the combination of fake news and a culture war is tearing the community apart. He stated; "If you disagree with someone, your facts are fake, your character questioned and you're denounced as an elite".

    I've not been a part of this forum for long but I've noticed that it's heavily stacked with Labor supporters who very quickly throw personal abuse at any who dare to say anything positive about the government. I note that a lot of comments are full of personal abusive comments about government members as well as blatant lies. I agree totally with Anthony Albanese.
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    2:41pm
    Always check if it doesn't seem right or has a whiff of a lie about it. Google can usually tell you straight up if it is true of not
    Horace Cope
    11th Dec 2019
    2:53pm
    Why should we have to check annie? Any forum should have discussions with respect and having to fact check each statement should not be necessary. The anonymity is probably a factor and that includes me but I try to be factual and respectful. I don't want to join in with the name calling and personal abuse because those who do are very low in my estimation.
    Eddy
    11th Dec 2019
    2:59pm
    Sorry Horace but personal abuse and vilification are not the exclusive tools of labor supporters, there are plenty of right wing LNP supporters on this forum who are just as viscous. I have been the target of abusive comments and, while I try I try to avoid negative or abusive comments, sometimes I cannot help myself. I do not know where you stand politically Horace but I like to think I am in the middle and say 'a pox on both their houses'.
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    3:08pm
    I always check if I don't think it is right. Is it so hard that you are happy to take at face value what is posted. Look at the damage done in the last election because people just believed whatever they were fed.
    Horace Cope
    11th Dec 2019
    3:14pm
    You're right Eddy, I was merely pointing out that the vast majority of posters are obviously Labor supporters or, at least, anti-Coalition and it is that group that I find most offensive. If the abusive posts were counted the anti-Coalition would outnumber the rest by a large percentage.
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    3:30pm
    Horace Cope, you are like Barnaby Joyce. You assume that anyone with an opinion different to yours or suggest you do a bit of research to be a labor voter as Barnaby did with the dead people in the bush fires. That comment that they probably voted Green shows the calibre of the LNP and as such their supporters. No sympathy for anyone except themselves
    Horace Cope
    11th Dec 2019
    3:41pm
    I respectfully disagree annie. My opinion on how posters vote is predicated on the way they post. Calling our PM names such as Scummo or Jesus or crooked, ministers as parasites and feral commenting on a members physical appearance and all of the Coailition as shonks has led me to my conclusion. Is that making too big a leap?
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    4:01pm
    Yes it is Horace. If you get wound up enough you are bound to call anyone names. After almost 5 months of fires and still the denial on climate change and the refusal to help fire fighters on the ground would be enough to make anyone call someone names. Inaction on the LNP's part doesn't help
    Horace Cope
    11th Dec 2019
    4:14pm
    Name calling adds nothing to the conversation, annie, regardless of how upset one gets. There is no proof that climate change is responsible for the fires, there is a lot of references to that but no actual proof. Saying something over and over does not constitute a fact. What help do you want for the firefighters and who is going to provide that help? Firefighters from New Zealand, Canada and the USA have been co-opted and those in charge have not asked for any more. Surely you're not with that group that says; "Bring in the army!" As an ex-serviceman I can tell you that we were never trained to fight fires so we would be useless trying to do so.
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    4:38pm
    Volunteer fire fighters have given up their time and their income for well over several months and not one mention of some compensation to help them and their families out while they are fighting to save peoples property. I never mentioned the army, not once. It is you jumping to conclusions. The federal gov is giving those that have lost their homes money but the fire fighters just have to suck it up and get on with it. News item today of a group asking for food and equipment for the last 2 days and it has fallen on deaf ears. I haven't called you names or abused you but if you would like me to just say so and I will see what I can do
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    4:40pm
    "the vast majority of posters are obviously Labor supporters or, at least, anti-Coalition and it is that group that I find most offensive."

    Aw diddums... Of course an LNP troll like you, Horace, would find opposition to your beloved Lieberal-Nazional COALition "offensive". Get over it.
    sainter
    11th Dec 2019
    6:08pm
    Horace Cope if you think the majority of people who write posts are anti LNP just blaming the Govt,the Govt you think is doing a great job are now in their 3rd term all we from them,Labor,Labor,Labor to blame for everything,the biggest thing I blame Labor for is letting this bunch of tell no body nothing Govt unless it suits them win the election earlier this year.
    sainter
    11th Dec 2019
    6:08pm
    Horace Cope if you think the majority of people who write posts are anti LNP just blaming the Govt,the Govt you think is doing a great job are now in their 3rd term all we from them,Labor,Labor,Labor to blame for everything,the biggest thing I blame Labor for is letting this bunch of tell no body nothing Govt unless it suits them win the election earlier this year.
    Viking
    11th Dec 2019
    6:42pm
    Horace, if you don't like the comments made against your beloved LNP then I suggest that for a little balance you listen to its loud mouthed and loose with the truth leader in parliament and to how he addresses the opposition. Of course that's on the rare days that he chooses parliament to sit. Naturally when they have so few policies and to avoid scrutiny, there is little point in turning up for work.
    There used to be many more LNP supporters posting on YLC but since the election most of them seem to have little to support. I'm not a Labor voter and would willingly support the LNP myself if they had any supportable policies but instead of addressing energy, industry, economic growth and climate policy they appear content to fiddle at the margins with religious exclusion and discrimination.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:30pm
    I'd venture to suggest that very few are, in fact, Labor supporters.. more likely they are decent and thinking citizens with no party affiliation, but who have the ability and sense to see what is going on - and the guts to get up and say what they think.

    Again - for the record - I have not voted for any major party for decades now... none has produced the goods for this nation, and all have engaged in treachery and betrayal of their constituents, and all parties have sold this nation out to some mythical 'global economy' that benefits a very few mightily in reality, while purporting to be the saviour of all...

    Like that US Major said during Tet - the only way a 'global economy' that rapes national economies will 'save the world' is by destroying it..... only when national economies finally collapse under the burden of non-paying venturers with offshored accounts and tax havened operations, will the reality sink in... and many will die.
    Farside
    12th Dec 2019
    12:27am
    and your votes have been how effective Trebor??? You are either in the game or not.
    Anonymous
    12th Dec 2019
    1:36am
    A hung Senate is a good start... thank you for coming......

    I'm in the game, all right - the long game... Rome wasn't built in a day...
    Anonymous
    12th Dec 2019
    1:37am
    ...the steady erosion of rock by water dripping - every time any sane person posts and a view is altered one iota - that is the effect of a single drop, grasshopper...
    Alexii
    12th Dec 2019
    6:01pm
    Horace, now that you've mentioned army training and not being trained to fight fires, I'd respectfully suggest that [erhaps government should consider that massive bushfires are one of the great threats that contemporary Australia faces. because of this threat, a threat that seems to be far greater than any alleged threat from south Asia or the Middle east, then it may be very wise to train the defence forces and properly equip them to fight this threat ie train various sections of the defence forces to fight fires and thus be defending Australia from a serious domestic threat. Incidentally wasn't it defence force activity that started a big bush fire in the western part of the Blue Mountains a couple of years ago?
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:05pm
    Yes, Alexii, they conducted air target practice, if I recall correctly. And I think it happened during a fire ban.

    I'm fairly certain there are fire fighting units in the army, but they are trained to put out urban fires caused by artillery fire. The airport or army base near Katherine polluted the locals' drinking water when toxic extinguishers they used in repeated fire drills.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:28pm
    You must be joking, Horace. I suggest you remove your blinkers before repeating such a blatantly one-eyed observation. (Remove the peg from your nose while you're at it & smell the rancid air - it's this LNP government). They have gone way too far to the right and are in the pockets of Murdoch and shock jocks, which is how they keep getting voted in - via paid propaganda.

    The awful fact is that Scott Morrison is the Prime Minister of our country and the LNP are in office. They're a useless government who have achieved very little while destroying a lot of what was decent in our country. If Scott Morrison was the Prime Minister from any other Party and acted as he has, he'd still be copping a deluge of criticism from all directions, including small l liberals.

    Do you assume everyone who criticises Morrison or the government are Labor voters? Haven't you seen the posts on here from people who admit they usually vote Liberal, but feel they must draw the line of decency and accountability somewhere?
    KSS
    11th Dec 2019
    3:15pm
    It doesn't matter what the writer thinks. If he has followed the rules and gained consent for the trip, there is nothing to criticise on this occasion. He paid for himself so no tax payer was out of pocket. Would there be this same vitriol if the minister was Labor, Moslem and attending Haj? I think not.
    sainter
    11th Dec 2019
    5:57pm
    Lost the plot KSS.this bloke is part of this Govt we have to put up with,also a minister.Labor,Moslem which I can't understand what that anything to do with and attending Haj makes no sense at all.
    sainter
    11th Dec 2019
    5:57pm
    Lost the plot KSS.this bloke is part of this Govt we have to put up with,also a minister.Labor,Moslem which I can't understand what that anything to do with and attending Haj makes no sense at all.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:32pm
    Someone put it well a few days ago - corrupt rules set up by those who directly benefit from them.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:10pm
    There's plenty to criticise, KSS. This bludger only had to sit 35 days in Parliament for his well paid job, but reneged on his duty for some personal religious folly.

    He's meant to be serving Australia and Australians. I'm sure we would've heard a whole lot more about it were he Labor, Moslem or heaven-forbid, Green.
    ollie
    11th Dec 2019
    3:28pm
    They should change the name from parliment house to Alcatraz its where all the crooks and dishonest people hang out
    annie
    11th Dec 2019
    3:32pm
    Not all but a large majority
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:33pm
    It's where they should be confined all year round to do their job - same as anyone else in a job... they have countless flunkies in their electoral offices who handle the walk-ins and complaints for them...

    Do they really need to go around opening schools and such?
    Farside
    15th Dec 2019
    1:35pm
    Ollie, you are aware that Alcatraz has been a tourist destination for decades, right? It might be a memorable name with connotations but the prison closed in 1963.
    BillF2
    11th Dec 2019
    4:00pm
    I do not begrudge the minister having a holiday at his own expense, if it does not conflict with other important matters in parliament. However, this minister, and many other so-called Christian members of parliament, behave in a totally unchristian way towards refugees and their fellow countrymen. Their actions speak louder than words, and they do not deserve the position or the trust they have been given. Wouldn't it be nice to actually get an honest politician - one who works for the people and the country first. But to quote Michael Caton "tell him he's dreaming!"
    80 plus
    11th Dec 2019
    6:31pm
    why pick on the followers of Christ, we have treasurer who stated part of his religious duties was to promote the Israeli governments agenda. The retired foreign minister stated that she was going to treat Israel in a more? even handed manner.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:31pm
    Any religion will do, 80 plus, if they are hypocrites.

    Jesus would've driven them all out of the temple, and Jesus was a Jew!

    11th Dec 2019
    4:22pm
    This man is a disaster. Sack the bum. But then, the whole LNP is a disaster...

    11th Dec 2019
    4:22pm
    This man is a disaster. Sack the bum. But then, the whole LNP is a disaster...
    sainter
    11th Dec 2019
    4:55pm
    Scomo wouldn't sack the good Christian man,the same bloke who doesn't give a stuff about people on welfare,only if they owe money to Centrelink.I have a good idea for this minister,put him on a cashless card of payment so he can try his own medicine that he and his other heartless LNP mates like to dish out,see how he goes.
    sainter
    11th Dec 2019
    4:55pm
    Scomo wouldn't sack the good Christian man,the same bloke who doesn't give a stuff about people on welfare,only if they owe money to Centrelink.I have a good idea for this minister,put him on a cashless card of payment so he can try his own medicine that he and his other heartless LNP mates like to dish out,see how he goes.
    floss
    11th Dec 2019
    5:41pm
    Nero fiddled while Rome burned ,history does repeat itself.
    Alexii
    11th Dec 2019
    6:39pm
    Isn't it a joke for government to be paying to have a representative at Hillsong? The bloody hypocrisy of these so-called christian parliamentary bludgers on society.
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:36pm
    YTF would a government need a representative at Hillsong?

    Maybe they should just cop a proportionally allocated seat or ten, same as the Indigenous lobby want... a separate Parliament from which they can veto or approve measures...

    Maybe Slomo should appoint an Ambassador to Hillsong - plenty of old parasite mates out there panting for another shot at the public purse...
    Viking
    11th Dec 2019
    8:19pm
    I totally agree. But then Australia is supposed to be a secular State, that means having no concern for or allegiance to any particular religion. So that being the case, how is it we have an Embassy to the Holy See in Rome but nothing for the equally numerous Anglican mob or importantly the Lutherans or Jews, Muslims or Buddhists? If we are truly secular, surely our government should not be influenced by any particular faith nor should the PM claim to be a practicing Christian and then prove otherwise by his actions.
    Old grey
    11th Dec 2019
    7:27pm
    He's a Pentacostal, same as the PM, so he's safe from any reprimand. Religion and politics (particularly representing the Australian populace who are not very much into any religious conviction) do NOT mix
    Incognito
    14th Dec 2019
    1:58am
    Makes you wonder how many other pollies in the LNP are from his Pentacostal church.
    Old grey
    11th Dec 2019
    7:27pm
    He's a Pentacostal, same as the PM, so he's safe from any reprimand. Religion and politics (particularly representing the Australian populace who are not very much into any religious conviction) do NOT mix
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2019
    7:39pm
    .. and they complain about the Islamic extremists in Tehran or the maybe 20% ghazis, religious fanatic warriors, in Afghanistan, in amongst the 'farm dogs' who simply follow local custom of refusing any 'invader'...

    An army in Afghanistan holds only the ground it physically sits on...
    Bigjack
    11th Dec 2019
    9:50pm
    Absolute scandal! He has to go!
    DJ
    12th Dec 2019
    10:12am
    Having experienced several unfortunate dealings with this ministers department in recent times I seriously believe they should change the name of same to Centrestink. This latest episode by Stuart Roberts only proves that he is delusional in many ways, one of which is his lack of responsibility to the citizens of this country. One wonders who is running this country, surely it is not Hill Song? Roberts has to go!!
    sainter
    12th Dec 2019
    10:30am
    I don't care what religion members of parliament choose to have faith in,what I dislike is that religion seems to be high on the agenda of this secretive Govt,but it's no surprise this is what autocratic Govts use,they choose certain religions to make themselves appealing,it's a form of populism.In saying that Stuart Robert should be removed as a minister he has overseen disaster after disaster in his port folio and his answers to all this are just a total joke.
    sainter
    12th Dec 2019
    10:30am
    I don't care what religion members of parliament choose to have faith in,what I dislike is that religion seems to be high on the agenda of this secretive Govt,but it's no surprise this is what autocratic Govts use,they choose certain religions to make themselves appealing,it's a form of populism.In saying that Stuart Robert should be removed as a minister he has overseen disaster after disaster in his port folio and his answers to all this are just a total joke.
    Roy R
    12th Dec 2019
    6:05pm
    How can any member of the current government call him or herself Christion.. Ole JC will be turning in his grave.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:38pm
    Jesus would've driven them all out of the temple, Roy. They are almighty hypocrites and money is their real god.
    ex PS
    13th Dec 2019
    11:02am
    As long as the hold on government control is so precarious government members can get away with anything, SLOMO will not give up his power just so he can be seen to do the right thing.
    It's all about staying in power, as long as he can do that nothing else matters. As is being demonstrated.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:46pm
    Yes ex PS, they do what they want without any accountability.

    Labor are proving to be useless in Opposition, too. Why aren't they rousing people up against Morrison? Maybe because Labor don't mind a little coal-handling in Parliament, too.

    Still, this is a secular country and we shouldn't be showing any favour to this religion or that religion. They should shut up about religion when they are sitting in Parliament. Skip the (Christian) prayers too, please. It's excluding the rest of us who don't believe in it.
    Hoohoo
    13th Dec 2019
    3:51pm
    This religious nonsense should be confined to their private lives. I'm sure they don't want to protect my private philosophies in the same way they want to protect someone like Israel Falou's.

    These overpaid politicians only sat in Parliament for 35 days this year! And then they ask and receive time out for gallivanting about the globe on their religious follies. What a bunch of useless bludgers!
    Incognito
    14th Dec 2019
    2:03am
    35 days of sitting the rest gallivanting around the world at taxpayers expense.And what have they achieved this year?
    sainter
    14th Dec 2019
    9:42am
    This Govt wants to introduce religious freedoms,never heard anyone tell the likes of Morrison you can't attend church,when are these boofheads like Morrison,Robert and others in the LNP going to get it,keep religion out of politics.As for sitting for 35 days,this very minister wants people to do the impossible on Newstart,while he can going running around do his church thing anywhere around the world,try going overseas if your on newstart,good luck with that Minister Robert would cut your payment before you even boarded a plane.
    sainter
    14th Dec 2019
    9:42am
    This Govt wants to introduce religious freedoms,never heard anyone tell the likes of Morrison you can't attend church,when are these boofheads like Morrison,Robert and others in the LNP going to get it,keep religion out of politics.As for sitting for 35 days,this very minister wants people to do the impossible on Newstart,while he can going running around do his church thing anywhere around the world,try going overseas if your on newstart,good luck with that Minister Robert would cut your payment before you even boarded a plane.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    3:57pm
    If they get their protection of religious freedom Act through, I think we'll have to start up our own religion so the thought police can't arrest us.

    And I wonder how they expect they'll protect the religious freedoms of First Australians, when the locals from the Adani mine site now have to ask Adani for permission to conduct ceremonies on their own country. The Springs at the centre of their Dreaming is directly threatened by Adani taking mega amounts of water for free, even water outside the mine site. How good is Adani? How good is free water from the desert? How good is Morrison? And how good is (Labor's?) Queensland?

    It seems nothing is sacred when it comes to the First Australians.
    Incognito
    14th Dec 2019
    2:05am
    These people think they are above the law and everyone else for that matter. High and mighty, privileged religious fanatics, what hope have we got for a balanced,fair and equal society for all.
    gecko50
    14th Dec 2019
    8:18am
    So parliament sat for a grand total of 35 days minus the 14 days he was on leave. Not a bad lurk sitting for 21 days!
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    4:01pm
    What a bludger! And he's in charge of Centrelink! Oh, the irony...
    Pardelope
    15th Dec 2019
    12:04am
    He should be hit with a "robodebt" demand and have to deal with Centrelink convoluted systems and requirements to prove his innocence.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    4:00pm
    That would be sweet justice.
    Rosret
    15th Dec 2019
    12:29pm
    I would really like everyone to put down their political flags for just one moment and not discuss this man but rather the law that has just gone through parliament.

    I have a really bad gut feeling about this law and the number of people who are going to be vilified, excluded and treated as lessor human beings due to this new law.

    If this man is going overseas to dunk people's heads in the water, leave or no leave, then he is a vested interest in a company (the faith business).

    This new law is much more likely to affect women. Anyone who lived in the era last century when gynos didn't hand out the pill or do necessary hysterectomies etc etc because of their religious beliefs would know how detrimental it this law may become.

    With this law should be a necessary declaration on all businesses houses and education facilities that do not employ, or will not give equal treatment to, or adhere to the wishes of another human based of religion beliefs. If they want to own these unchristian values let everyone see them bold and clearly.
    Hoohoo
    15th Dec 2019
    4:22pm
    I agree with you fully, Rosret. There should be no exceptions for religious institutions. Our discrimination laws already protect all of us from persecution (except on line).
    I think they should consider themselves lucky not to have to pay Rates and I don't suppose the profits from all their businesses get taxed by the ATO, do they? The Vatican is never short of money, that I know.

    But you know what this is really about? Gender. The same sex marriage argument showed them up for the bigots they are and now they're seeking to undo the fairness achieved by that vote because God told them to, it says so in the Bible that God wrote, nyair so there! God's on MY side. How can a woman have a wife? Only men are permitted to be allocated wives, not women! It makes me think of "The Handmaid's Tale."
    It is just so much childish, selfish and un-Christian thinking.

    God said no poofters and only men can be the head of anything and everything, (except the kitchen, the grocery shopping, the nursery, the cleaning, the cooking, viaducts? and and and and all the menial tasks that just happen to be unpaid).
    Incognito
    15th Dec 2019
    4:55pm
    I have read all your comments today HooHoo, and I agree with them all. Never watched the Handmaids tale, the preview scared me enough.
    Pass the Ductape
    15th Dec 2019
    4:59pm
    Just the same old typical pigs in the trough syndrome that most politicians appear to have. What's the really most amazing thing about it all is the we, the constituents, allow them to keep doing it! Just goes to show that we deserve to be the fools they're always taking us for.
    Rosret
    16th Dec 2019
    8:39am
    No, its not the same ole. I fear that with the Abbot government the ranks of the Liberal party were stacked with religious fundamentalists. We don't need extremists in Parliament. Neither the Greens, One nation etc etc.
    We need what the majority want - middle of the road mainstream, balancing the needs of what the people want not manifestos or biblical ideologies.
    sainter
    17th Dec 2019
    5:04am
    Agree with you Rosret,when the Abbott Govt was voted in there was an increase in these extremists idiots that you have mentioned,none of which are there for the ordinary citizen,but rather for their own ideologies.
    sainter
    17th Dec 2019
    5:04am
    Agree with you Rosret,when the Abbott Govt was voted in there was an increase in these extremists idiots that you have mentioned,none of which are there for the ordinary citizen,but rather for their own ideologies.
    johnp
    16th Dec 2019
    9:32am
    Was he also pocketing the profits from ?? Where it says
    ""His tour was promoted as a journey where people could 'walk in the footsteps of Jesus' at a cost $5600 per person""
    Rosret
    16th Dec 2019
    10:10am
    I guess that is legal.
    Frank of Brizzie
    16th Dec 2019
    11:34am
    Mr Robert has been caught out several times now and seems to have no regard for the task he has been trusted with. He also is a hypocrite being a religious person supposed to practice what they preach. Worst part is he is still there probably protected by his colleagues who are much the same. You scratch my back and I scratch yours. Have to stop I feel sick!!
    johnp
    17th Dec 2019
    11:27am
    Me also, quite nauseous actually !!


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