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Unfairness in reinstatement of Pensioner Concession Cards
Author: YourLifeChoices
Unfairness in reinstatement of Pensioner Concession Cards

While 93,000 pensioners will see their Pensioner Concession Cards reinstated in October, there are some who, due to the timing of when they lost their Age Pension, won't. David is one such pensioner who is so incensed, he decided to contact Human Services Minister Alan Tudge to voice his displeasure and request an explanation.

Here’s what David had to say – do you agree?

“The Hon Alan Tudge MP,

I received a phone call today from your department in reply to an email I sent on Friday regarding the Pensioner Concession Card. The explanation I received was very confusing.

The conversation I had was, the pensioners who lost the Pension Concession Card on the 1 January 2017 would have it reinstated on the 9 October 2017, and exempted from an assets and income test.

I understand this will only happen if the legislation is passed. The bit I didn’t understand was, that pensioners who lost or will lose the pension from the 2 January 2017 due to a change in circumstances will not receive the concession card.

Is this correct, and if so, how is this fair? This means a pensioner who could have more than  $150,000.00 over the threshold on 1 January 2017 will have the card reinstated. But a pensioner who from 2 January may exceed the threshold by, let us say  $15,000, would lose the card. This does not make any sense.

I hope this inquiry can be answered in writing to the satisfaction of all pensioners that are going to read this reply, especially those who may be affected by it.

Please advise me if my request has not been clearly understood.”

What are your thoughts? Will you also miss out on having your Pensioner Concession Card reinstated?

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    Retired
    29th Jun 2017
    10:29am
    This is sooooooooo unfair, how can this be explained !!
    Janus
    29th Jun 2017
    11:32am
    Easily explained: this government has pensioners and self funded retirees in their sights, so don't expect any favours, or fairness.

    I wonder why they have decided to punish us all for saving up so we can spend it on services and keep people employed when we retire thus both freeing up and creating jobs?

    I also wonder why the Liberal and Nationals have decided that the support of this section of the voting public is not considered necessary. I thought they were a major part of their vote count. They have certainly lost a huge number of supporters, and the latest stats tell us that we are increasing in number. Amazingly stupid!
    AutumnOz
    29th Jun 2017
    1:12pm
    They probably think we'll all starve to death before the next election so they don't need to worry about us voting against them.

    They have a very big shock coming their way
    Rosret
    29th Jun 2017
    2:04pm
    AutumnOz big shock? We are a huge baby boomer problem. No party is going to go out of their way to help us.
    thommo
    30th Jun 2017
    8:40am
    to Janus...you're right. This government has and will lose voter support, especially from age pensioners, because of they way they've been treated by the LNP government. Especially due to the change in the assets test, after Abbott made solemn promises at the 2013 election that there would be no such changes. They're a bunch of lying mongrels, and the pensioners will rise up and trounce this govt at the next election, and good riddance to them.
    But Labor isn't any different.Shorten won't restore the assets test, and the only way Labor will win is if they get ride of Shorten, and replace him with someone with more nous, such as Tony Burke.
    Rae
    30th Jun 2017
    8:53am
    It appears the LNP desire to lose the next election and are working very hard to make sure that Australia is wrecked before they go.
    When you look at what they are doing nothing else makes any sense.
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    7:31am
    You got that right Rae. Nothing else does make sense.
    Janus
    29th Jun 2017
    11:36am
    I would not waste the email voltage on sending anything to the Minister of Pensioner Punishing.

    Just go straight to your local member of federal parliament, and deliver your abuse/complaint personally. Very satisfying, especially when you explain the rule of sevens (every complainer tells another seven people, on average), and that us older folk know how to vote.
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    7:45am
    Not satisfying when your local MP is Labor, minority party or independent. Then you have to write to the LNP members.
    Blondie
    29th Jun 2017
    11:59am
    The reason the LNP get away with treating the vulnerable in our society so unfairly, is the great Australian disease: Terminal Apathy!!
    KSS
    29th Jun 2017
    12:11pm
    Your circumstances changed (your words) and you are clearly no longer entitled to the card.
    AutumnOz
    29th Jun 2017
    1:17pm
    Circumstances apparently, or should that read allegedly, changed.

    People are supposed to update their details with Centrelink but as far as I can tell there is no obligation on the part of Centrelink to take note of the updates, if there was there would not have been so many people treated unfairly last January and March, not to mention the months previously to them.
    boxer
    29th Jun 2017
    12:21pm
    I agree with David same thing has happened to us, we only went over by a tiny amount in the review in March. If 93,000 lost their pension then it cannot be a huge amount that tipped over in March review, seems mighty petty to me
    floss
    29th Jun 2017
    12:21pm
    I know for a fact the information that C.Link used on Jan 1 2017 to check on our assets was not correct due to the fact we were told that C.Link would do the check and no input was required from us.There is a good chance this would apply to many others.I would urge all others effected they should lodge a protest as you are allowed.The whole mess should be cancelled and corrected. The ball is in your court so show some guts like David ,well done.
    floss
    29th Jun 2017
    12:26pm
    KSS we know what you are up to but I guess that is the way you were bought up. Sad really.
    mogo51
    29th Jun 2017
    12:50pm
    Of course it is, but at what stage do you think Politicuans worry about fairness?
    niemakawa
    30th Jun 2017
    3:53am
    During an election campaign, then all the spin and lies get a good workout. Change will never ever happen if the majority of people continue voting for more of the same.
    AutumnOz
    29th Jun 2017
    1:10pm
    Anyone who lost their pension card and had a reduction in the part Age Pension needs to get a list of the assets Centrelink has credited to you.

    A few weeks ago I got a printout from Crentrelink and I discovered some of the assets had been entered twice, mainly when I had seen someone in the local office to update my details, instead of updating the items they had been listed twice leading to a very mistaken amount of assets credited to me.

    You need to keep an eye on all payments from Centrelink as you cannot see what they have credited you with at their office.
    Alexii
    29th Jun 2017
    2:10pm
    I was just going to write a similar post to AutumnOz's one. You need to check your assets and their total against the total showing in the pension advice email or letter they send you. I had blithely accepted the total as being correct as all the assets listed were correct until at some stage last year I happened to add them up and found the total they listed was greater than the actual total and therefore the pension paid to me was far less than it should have been. I don't know how long that has gone on for. I'm still waiting for back pay. Then they resurrected an old, matured term deposit to list that in to my assets! So the total appears to be correct and of course is is not the correct total for me so my pension continues to be less than it should be. It really makes me wonder as to how many others actually have incorrect totals. What really amazed me in the first place was that their total could be different to the total of all the listed assets - one would expect that a computer program would add the assets as listed correctly.
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2017
    4:04pm
    Alexii maybe they added their Tip!!!!. Jokes aside, yes I always add up the assets listed (verify them against my records)and compare with the actual total they come up with. You can never be too careful.
    Rae
    30th Jun 2017
    9:09am
    You know the couple of kids in your school class that always knew everything and were total pains. They are in charge now and as you'll recall they never could do anything right while believing everything they did was perfect. Expecting a Government in this much debt to be able to count correctly is expecting a bit too much apparently.

    If your assets are anything like mine then they are worth far less today than three months ago thanks to this worthless bunch.

    Australian shares and property are falling quite substantially.

    I haven't actually ever dealt with Centrelink and am grateful. It seems that they just make stuff up as they go along.
    Travelling Man
    29th Jun 2017
    1:14pm
    You're quite incensed about this seeming unfairness, David, and rightly so, especially when one sees would-be economic queue jumping immigrants up on Manus Island receiving $37.000 each for perceived hardship after they trashed their accommodation. However in life there are always winners and losers! Those who lost their Pension Concession Cards on January 1 last following the new asset and income test were very unhappy. Now with the prospect of regaining the PCC status in October they are happy again. In these matters Centrelink must have boundaries and unfortunately you did not meet their criteria. So what can you do? As far as I can see the only solution if you want to regain your PCC is to spend any excess money and reapply. Best of luck.
    Alexii
    29th Jun 2017
    2:15pm
    Isn't it a crazy system that encourages pensioners or part pensioners to spend their money on things such as holidays - and those holidays could be overseas ones, travel on foreign ones airlines and ships so the pensioners money goes to foreign interests rather than to here in Australia. Just so long as you do the trip with no more than 42 days outside Australia. So a 30 day cruise around the Pacific?
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    7:42am
    No, Travelling Man. The advice to write to politicians and visit your local MP (if the local rep is LNP) to object to this unfairness and declare that you are campaigning with others dealt unfair blows to ENSURE THE BASTARDS ARE VOTED OUT is the correct response. And while telling them, also make the point that the idiots have created a situation where it's unwise to save much for retirement and better to spend up big on a fancy house or a lovely world cruise, as the ''Sweet Spot'' article points out, so STUPID policy is driving the deficit up. If the LNP want to wreck the nation, they are doing a great job. Tell them that, and tell them why. And tell them they will NEVER EVER EVER get your vote again unless they reverse ALL their attacks on retirees and start treating our generation with respect.
    floss
    29th Jun 2017
    2:19pm
    A good article to read is the SuperGuide news letter great stuff in it and explains our situation very well.Have a good day and spend spend spend may as well then join the line. Only joking.
    Bill
    29th Jun 2017
    3:46pm
    I live in NSW. The little blue vouchers that used to come with the concession card, where are they now? Does anyone know?
    missmarple
    29th Jun 2017
    4:00pm
    yep Bill I think the so called refugee's have them, why not they get everything else for nix
    tango18
    29th Jun 2017
    7:24pm
    If you are referring to the travel vouchers for 4 free one way trips per year on trains, well they went quite a few years ago. Now you go to the station, show your Pension Card and your details are entered into the computer system. You only have to do this once. Then you can book any time, in person, by phone or on-line. A very simple system. Also as your details are on record you can then go anywhere in NSW country areas for $2.50 and can book your seats up to 7 days in advance.
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2017
    4:08pm
    One mess after another. It would be far more simple and cost effective, to give all those who qualify an aged pension plus a PCC. Pensions regardless of income or assets, a right not welfare.
    GeorgeM
    29th Jun 2017
    10:45pm
    Absolutely the only way to go. But the morons who threw away our mineral wealth (unlike the Arabs) will not listen! Hence, the only option left is for the large retiree group to throw them out - Liberal / Nats, Labor & Greens all of them!
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2017
    10:58pm
    George, Governments prefer to spend a dollar to save a cent. Admininstative costs of virtually all Government schemes far outweigh the income generated.
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2017
    11:03pm
    George, you may find this article interesting.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4647570/UK-veterans-party-fight-seat-election.html#comments
    Rae
    30th Jun 2017
    9:14am
    That would be fair though and apparently we no longer do fair anything in Australia. Giving all over 67 a pension and taxing all other income makes too much sense.
    GeorgeM
    30th Jun 2017
    3:13pm
    Thanks for the link, niemakawa. A retiree voting group as in the article sounds great, however most candidates who support retirees have generally been unlikely to win here, and we need a method to get rid of the current leeches first.

    As I have posted before, in view of the preferential voting system, I suggest after voting one for your "retiree supporting candidate", the next preference should go to the candidate most likely to challenge the sitting candidate, and the last to the sitting candidate - to make sure the latter loses. That should get rid of all sitting leeches also prevent / limit getting their fat pensions for life, then maybe they will start listening. The retiree group is large enough to make such a difference, especially in all marginal seats.
    Crimmo
    30th Jun 2017
    12:02am
    Welcome to 'Advance Australia Fair'. The greatest con ever imposed on the Australian people.
    niemakawa
    30th Jun 2017
    12:16am
    God save the Queen!!!!!
    Nerk
    30th Jun 2017
    7:53am
    Cut assets and take cash out of bank, bring it down to get pension back.
    niemakawa
    30th Jun 2017
    3:40pm
    I wouldn't put it past any Government to placet a yearly "cap" on what you can spend on recreational activities, e.g Cruises, holidays, entertainment . They will be asking for receipts to justify the expense, no receipt then it will be considered a deprived asset. Likewise with upgrading to a more expensive home, they will want to know reasons and they will then review your circumstances accordingly.
    Radish
    5th Jul 2017
    2:56pm
    LOL many already do it....that is why the mattresses are so fat ;)
    niemakawa
    5th Jul 2017
    3:00pm
    How fat is your mattress, Radish.??????????? Waiting for that rainy day perhaps.
    floss
    30th Jun 2017
    10:56am
    It is a shame this government has put honest people in this position Nerk.It is a shame honest people come last and the meek will inherit the earth what a lot of rubbish.
    Not Senile Yet!
    30th Jun 2017
    3:51pm
    They will do anything to save a few dollars while they either donate to overseas what they do not have or buy what they cannot afford for Defence!
    Totally lost the Plot!
    Sack the lot!
    Vote independant....they are the only ones speaking out!
    The Parties are All Corrupted!
    niemakawa
    30th Jun 2017
    4:00pm
    How would a house of independents with different political beliefs function? Is it possible to have a party of independents running the country?
    AutumnOz
    30th Jun 2017
    4:19pm
    This government isn't functioning well. You don't need a party of Independents just enough Independents to form a government - they can't do much worse than the current government.
    niemakawa
    30th Jun 2017
    4:21pm
    AutumnOZ a coalition Government made up of independents.
    AutumnOz
    30th Jun 2017
    4:37pm
    I hoped that is what you meant :-)
    It should work quite well as most Independents do have some ideas for running the country. With a bit of luck many of them will have very similar ideas and as I said earlier they can't do much worse than the current mess we are in....they will probably do a lot better.
    niemakawa
    1st Jul 2017
    2:25am
    This is sure to attract the attention of our Government and all the other Globalist parties. Wouldn't they just love to be able to do this.
    Germany setting a very dangerous precedent for the West.

    This must never be allowed to happen in Australia.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/06/30/germany-fine-facebook-youtube-50m-fail-delete-hate-speech/
    AutumnOz
    1st Jul 2017
    8:54am
    It is very stupid, and lazy, of any government which wants to fine social media for the content posted by users. Also allowing social media to arbitrate the information people are encouraged to read is a very foolish way to go as it is almost instant communication and is impossible to read all for malicious content before it registers on the website.
    We have already lost a lot of our freedom of speech under the guise of political correctness. Having said that we certainly do not want to lose any more of our rights.
    Radish
    2nd Jul 2017
    3:48pm
    Would it not make sense to give everyone a concession card over the age of 75 regardless of their assets. If people have done as Paul Keating said and saved and invested so as not to be a burden on the taxpayer in retirement why not give them the card. Would stop a lot of the shenanigans that go on where people hide money etc so that they get the card and a small pension.

    The more that are self funded the better so that those who are less well off get a decent pension.
    Anonymous
    5th Jul 2017
    5:42am
    Yes, Radish. All over pension age should get the concession card. Denying people benefits because they worked and saved is DUMB and economically destructive.
    Old Geezer
    5th Jul 2017
    10:57am
    Only those on the full OAP should get the concession card as why should everyone else have to pay extra to pay for the discounts people who can afford to pay full price get? It is simple very dumb giving the concession card to such people.
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    8:04am
    EVERYONE over pension age should get the concession, AND the pension. It would cost far less than the unfair dog's dinner we have now that is driving dishonesty and manipulation.
    Old Geezer
    3rd Jul 2017
    5:32pm
    Agree it is very unfair. Many who have the concession card are better off than many others who have to pay full price plus extra to cover these concessions.

    Only those that qualify for the full age pension should get the concession card.
    Radish
    3rd Jul 2017
    5:43pm
    Watched Peter Costello on 60 minutes. He pointed out that years ago we had 5 people working to support one on the aged pension.

    Now it is two people to one pensioner. Blindy Freddy can see it is unsustainable.

    No point in wanting more and more pension as neither side will be in the position to give huge increases in the years to come.

    I expect to see even more tightening up.
    niemakawa
    3rd Jul 2017
    5:47pm
    So the other 3 are unemployed now. I did not watch the programme, but did Mr Costello give explicit reasons where all the money has gone? I think I know where, The other 3 are now supporting the lifestyle of newcomers.
    Old Geezer
    3rd Jul 2017
    6:57pm
    Agree way too many now on welfare and it needs tightening up as people now see welfare as a way of living instead of working.

    By the number of caravans heading north there are an awful lot of making hay while the sun shines. No idea where they are going as everything was full already when we left. Spoke to some of them and they were just heading north with no idea where they were going to stay as they had nothing booked. We were passing hundreds of caravans a day in some places.
    Radish
    3rd Jul 2017
    7:17pm
    We have friends who left Perth last weekend to go across the Nullarbor and up through the centre to Darwin. No idea if they have booked in anywhere but surely it must be quite stressful not knowing if you are able to get in somewhere for the night.

    Caravanning is not for us but good on those who do enjoy it. Must be lots of quite well of retirees even thought many say they can hardly make ends meet.
    niemakawa
    3rd Jul 2017
    7:19pm
    OG don't you wish you has a caravan. God luck to them, it is their money, their time. When the money has been spent, then they can claim a pension which incidentally is a right. If only Governments would recognise it as such, the the waste would discontinue. Pensions for all those who qualify regardless of income and/or assets. Simple and easy to manage, huge savings in the making.
    Radish
    3rd Jul 2017
    8:17pm
    It is definitely available to those who satisfy the assets and income tests.
    Old Geezer
    4th Jul 2017
    10:25am
    Nope don't wish for a caravan as I already have a new one with all the extras one needs to be fully self contained and self sufficient for days and weeks if water is available. Not too sure I'd want to live in one permanently though.

    Just spent 5 weeks touring around in my caravan and had fun finding places where the rest had missed. I did book a few places but mostly just whinged it and only had one plan B the whole trip.
    Anonymous
    5th Jul 2017
    5:48am
    OG, it seems you want to blow the budget completely by ensuring that everyone who isn't rich has to manipulate or cheat to be on a full pension because despite saving well, they don't have enough assets to achieve an income that matches that of a pensioner. That's really STUPID. But it's consistent with the attitude of the arrogant, ignorant rich who just want to see the less advantaged suffer and struggle while the rich have it all.

    What's weird is that the rich are too stupid to see what the long-term social and economic outcome will be. Economic unfairness and punishing endeavour and responsible living breeds increased ill-health, increased violence, increased crime, increased family breakup, increased addiction, increased mental illness..... All of which imposes huge cost on taxpayers and major social decline. Be careful what you wish for OG. You are condemning the entire nation to greater misery.
    Old Geezer
    5th Jul 2017
    10:45am
    If a couple retiring with $800,000 can't live on that and it's return for the rest of their lives there is something very wrong with their budgeting. Personally I would make more on that $800,000 than I would spend a year. Idea is to spend your money when you retire not hoard it for someone else to spend after you die.
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    8:02am
    Spoken by the world's most ignorant Scrooge! Just because YOU can do something, doesn't mean others can. Assumption and anecdotal evidence again, OG. Nothing factual or logical.

    We are not all investment wizards. The current levels of return are very low and investment risk is very high. When health and personal care costs are high, budgeting is not the issue. Many who budgeted very well in earlier life cannot manage on low incomes when their health or physical capacity reduces.

    Nobody is suggesting hoarding money to give away after you die. I am concerned with it lasting through maybe 30+ years of high inflation. But as for bequeathing some to make life easier for the next generation, why not? We worked for it. We earned it. We went without to keep it. Why the hell shouldn't we leave it to our kids if that's what we saved for. Only a stinking vile communist thinks the state is entitled to the proceeds of an individual's hard work. Go to Russia, OG. Or Communist China. People with your communist mentality are NOT WELCOME HERE.
    wogaroo
    4th Jul 2017
    10:39am
    look, this government don't want poor people or pensioners to live beyond 70yrs of age..For the last 3-4 yrs their mantra has been that us oldies are a blight/burden on this society.
    I am 70 yrs of age and speak to quite a few oldies, they read and hear what our pollies in parliament are saying! Same as what i do! I know a couple who have lost $480.00 of their pension per fortnight. Sheriff Scotty is going to help them out with a one off payment of $125.00 to assist in their power bill!! Go work out!!
    Old Geezer
    4th Jul 2017
    3:02pm
    Obviously that couple that lost $480 per fortnight have more than enough to live on without it. Let's face it to lose that sort of money they must have oodles of capital to use instead.
    Anonymous
    5th Jul 2017
    5:39am
    You also think money falls from heaven, OG! You are such an ill-informed fool! Countless thousands who lost hundreds per fortnight DO NOT have enough to live on without it and are now scrambling to reduce their wealth so that they can achieve an income at least equal to the OAP.

    They are forfeiting the future medical and personal care and old age care that they saved for and will be a much bigger burden on the State in the future because they were punished for being responsible. And their children will lose inheritance that might have helped them own homes and kept them off the OAP forever.

    And the whole purpose of this cruel and unconscionable act was to apparently to give more to those who saved a few hundred thousand - but not quite as much as the losers. The truly needy GOT NOT ONE CENT MORE. (Oh, but the pollies got big pay rises and the rich and big business got tax cuts.)

    It's STUPID and IRRESPONSIBLE and ECONOMICALLY UNSISTAINABLE and the only people who endorse such policy are brainless green-eyed monsters who have neither respect nor empathy for others and can't do math, let alone comprehend the social consequences and long-term cost of disincentivising endeavour and responsible lifestyles.
    Old Geezer
    5th Jul 2017
    10:55am
    Rainey it hasn't stopped the migration north and the amount of money being spent is astonishing. Retirees are certainly living very well indeed. The sale of caravan and recreational vehicles is increasing at an unbelievable rate. If this is not the best time in history to live then I have no idea what was.

    You need to open you eyes and see what is really happening.
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    7:57am
    More dumb comment based on anecdotal evidence because you see SOME people doing something and wildly and stupidly assume it means everyone can. You really are delusional, OG. Hundreds of thousands of retirees are struggling. 1/3rd of retired Australians are living below the poverty line. Homelessness among the aged is an increasing problem. Many with savings are now positioned such that their savings won't last long enough or cover their health and care needs.

    YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR EYES. You are the one who can't see what is real. You think because you see a few folk with luxury caravans and because you have a load of money, that means everyone is in the same position.

    Sure, recreational vehicle sales are increasing, because people HAVE TO SPEND now because there is no benefit in saving unless you are super rich or an investment wizard. 300,000 people were punished harshly for saving well and put in the position where having less would make them better off. Many will buy recreational vehicles and take a holiday. Many will cruise. Many will buy bigger houses or extend theirs. And the young will say ''live for today. No point saving because the lying cheating fraudulent government just rips it all off you later and you gain nothing.'' So the cost of supporting the aging will continue to skyrocket, and fools like you will keep insisting more cruelty will somehow solve the problem stupid meanness and cruelty created.

    5th Jul 2017
    5:32am
    It's not just unfair. It's economically unsustainable and STUPID. The government keeps increasing the incentives for people to REDUCE THEIR SAVINGS, and then wonders why the numbers applying for pensions keep rising. DUMB DUMB DUMB.
    Old Geezer
    5th Jul 2017
    10:47am
    No it's not dumb at all. I see it as a great move to get people to spend their money instead of hoarding it which is very dumb indeed.
    Old Geezer
    5th Jul 2017
    11:00am
    Is it also right that people who live in a caravan or motorhome full time and get the OAP should get rent allowance so that they can live in some of the most desirable areas in Australia?
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    7:44am
    And when the money is gone, the government cops a massive hike in the cost of the OAP and then fools like you whine about the increased burden on taxpayers. But you are all way too DUMB to see what's ahead.
    Retired
    5th Jul 2017
    12:28pm
    Rainey, you're wasting your breath arguing with Old Geezer as he still doesn't get it. He sounds like an ignorant know it all (knows nothing) type.
    Old Geezer
    5th Jul 2017
    1:27pm
    OG unfortunately knows a lot more than he makes out he does. He gets it all right and he sees it well too. He is far from ignorant and people try to discredit him just because he tells it how it really is. Open you eyes and clean the wax from your ears and you too will see and hear what is really going on.
    Anonymous
    5th Dec 2017
    7:35am
    No, OG. You are delusional. You don't get it at all. You only think you do. You are an ignorant egotist who THINKS he knows things but really hasn't a clue. But like all delusional egotists, you convince yourself you know more than others. Thus far, you have written nothing but baseless nonsense quoting wild assumptions. Not a single comment based on FACT or supported by EVIDENCE.
    ggeorge
    27th Jul 2017
    11:26pm
    100% agree with what David is saying re 93,000 pensioners will see their Pensioner Concession Cards reinstated in October, I’ve been to hell and back last couple of days disputing with ministers office about such a ludicrous legislation which doesn’t make any sense! I call upon every Dick, Tom, and Harry out there who’s been affected by such a ludicrous act not to lie down and take it! No way!!!! Here is an angle which they can’t get away with look in this article financial review this link http://www.afr.com/news/policy/budget/budget-2017-turnbull-woos-older-voters-pensioner-concession-cards-are-back-20170509-1nxw1t
    Stating the very statement announced by the treasurer Scott Morrison his own true words no one else’s this is what he said word to word!!!! "To support older Australians we are restoring the pensioner concession card to those impacted by the pension assets test change introduced earlier this year," Treasurer Scott Morrison said in his budget speech.
    Now read it carefully (to those impacted.......) not addressed to the ones 1st 2nd or 3rd of January crap!!!!! But to all those impacted by it!!!! I strongly call upon each one out there to call Scott Morrison’s office to eat his words or deliver what he stated!!!!! I did it loud and clear this morning also ask for Michelle when you call his office on that number is the one I called (02) 6277 7340 don’t allow them politicians who are there because we voted for them get away with it??? I like to hear from anyone out there who wishes to contact me my email to get all together as a solid unit and combat such a ridiculous out come? What is it when you think about it?? For example 2 people john who lost his pension on the 1st of January and Paul lost his pension on the 2nd of January, John gets his free asset tested pension card free of any asset test but bad luck for Paul??? What are we running here a proper government policy? Or some lottery luck of the draw??? Give me a break!!!! Can’t let or allow such a bloody joke is the best word to describe it!!!
    ggeorge
    27th Jul 2017
    11:29pm
    100% agree with what David is saying re 93,000 pensioners will see their Pensioner Concession Cards reinstated in October, I’ve in contact last couple of days disputing with ministers office about such a ludicrous legislation which doesn’t make any sense! I call upon every Dick, Tom, and Harry out there who’s been affected by such a ludicrous act not to lie down and take it! No way!!!! Here is an angle which they can’t get away with look in this article financial review this link http://www.afr.com/news/policy/budget/budget-2017-turnbull-woos-older-voters-pensioner-concession-cards-are-back-20170509-1nxw1t
    Stating the very statement announced by the treasurer Scott Morrison his own true words no one else’s this is what he said word to word!!!! "To support older Australians we are restoring the pensioner concession card to those impacted by the pension assets test change introduced earlier this year," Treasurer Scott Morrison said in his budget speech.
    Now read it carefully (to those impacted.......) not addressed to the ones 1st 2nd or 3rd of January crap!!!!! But to all those impacted by it!!!! I strongly call upon each one out there to call Scott Morrison’s office to eat his words or deliver what he stated!!!!! I did it loud and clear this morning also ask for Michelle when you call his office on that number is the one I called (02) 6277 7340 don’t allow them politicians who are there because we voted for them get away with it??? I like to hear from anyone out there who wishes to contact me my email to get all together as a solid unit and combat such a ridiculous out come? What is it when you think about it?? For example 2 people john who lost his pension on the 1st of January and Paul lost his pension on the 2nd of January, John gets his free asset tested pension card free of any asset test but bad luck for Paul??? What are we running here a proper government policy? Or some lottery luck of the draw??? Give me a break!!!! Can’t let or allow such a joke is the best word to describe it!!!
    ggeorge
    27th Jul 2017
    11:35pm
    100% agree with what David is saying re 93,000 pensioners will see their Pensioner Concession Cards reinstated in October, I’ve been arguing last couple of days disputing with Ministers office about such a ludicrous legislation which doesn’t make any sense! I call upon every Dick, Tom, and Harry out there who’s been affected by such a ludicrous act not to lie down and take it! No way!!!! Here is an angle which they can’t get away with look in this article financial review this link http://www.afr.com/news/policy/budget/budget-2017-turnbull-woos-older-voters-pensioner-concession-cards-are-back-20170509-1nxw1t
    Stating the very statement announced by the treasurer Scott Morrison his own true words no one else’s this is what he said word to word!!!! "To support older Australians we are restoring the pensioner concession card to those impacted by the pension assets test change introduced earlier this year," Treasurer Scott Morrison said in his budget speech.
    Now read it carefully (to those impacted.......) not addressed to the ones 1st 2nd or 3rd of January crap!!!!! But to all those impacted by it!!!! I strongly call upon each one out there to call Scott Morrison’s office to eat his words or deliver what he stated!!!!! I did it loud and clear this morning also ask for Michelle when you call his office on that number is the one I called (02) 6277 7340 don’t allow them politicians who are there because we voted for them get away with it??? must all stick together as a solid unit and combat such a ridiculous outcome? What is it when you think about it?? For example 2 people john who lost his pension on the 1st of January and Paul lost his pension on the 2nd of January, John gets his free asset tested pension card free of any asset test but bad luck for Paul??? What are we running here a proper government policy? Or some lottery luck of the draw??? Give me a break!!!! Can’t let or allow such a joke is the best word to describe it!!!
    boxer
    11th Oct 2017
    12:38pm
    Agree this is so unfair, some of those getting it back will have perhaps $200,000 more than us, yet we don't get it. It is a trivial amount for the goverment, but for us that extra $2000-3000
    is very important, perhaps they just want us to spend our money quicker and then we can
    re-apply for the pension

    5th Dec 2017
    7:49am
    The entire pension system is a disaster, and getting worse with every change. Totally unfair - even cruel. An administrative nightmare (and one C/link is obviously failing to cope with!). Far more costly than it needs to be. And leaving hundreds of thousands in poverty while some party on a pension despite being millionaires.

    The Greens voted in favour of the assets test change only in exchange for an undertaking to completely review and overhaul the whole system. Never happened. Lying LNP defrauded them and the people - AGAIN.

    We should all be DEMANDING that the entire system is properly reviewed and totally overhauled to be fair, sensible, manageable, economically sustainable, and to achieve three goals: lift struggling retirees out of poverty, provide long term security and certainly for retirees, and incentivize saving more so that the future cost of supporting the aged falls.


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