6th Dec 2014
Human Services industrial action
Human Services industrial action

Following the offer of a below inflation pay deal to Department of Human Services officers, industrial action will commence on Thursday 11 December.

The Community and Public Sector Union (CPSU) has put its 30,000 staff on notice of its intention to implement a series of work bans and internal protect action. The actions will include not wearing corporate uniforms and reading an authorised CPSU statement before dealing with any customer inquiry made over the telephone.

The union hopes to avoid industrial action which affects customer services and payments, but the work bans signal a rocky time for Human Services staff and customers, while negotiation between the union and the Government are ongoing.

“Due to the lack of progress at negotiations and the Government’s unworkable bargaining policy we plan to start with a series of low level work bans designed to put pressure on DHS management and the Government while minimising inconvenience to DHS clients,” a notice to CPSU members stated.

A spokesperson for the Department of Human Services said in a statement, “We are extremely disappointed the CPSU has chosen to undertake a broad campaign of industrial action, as bargaining discussions are ongoing towards a new enterprise agreement and we are meeting our good faith obligations”.

The good news for customers is that both sides are determined that customers will not be affected.

“Industrial action to date has not had an adverse impact on our customers as we have in place contingency plans to address potential disruptions,” the Human Services spokesperson said. “The department remains open for business, and we have robust processes in place to ensure the delivery of health and welfare payments is not affected by any industrial action.”

In the event that Human Services is unable to process payments, there is the safeguard for customers for the Reserve Bank of Australia to re-run payments from the previous fortnight.





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    Brissiegirl
    8th Dec 2014
    10:01am
    I don't know how long this country can continue with its ingrained entitlement mentality. Union fat cat leaders keep upping the demands, people want more and more for less and less, we will be a third world country soon. So much debt, so few taxpayers.
    btony
    8th Dec 2014
    10:16am
    And the banks keep making more billions, just who has the entitlement mentality?
    If Its good for the "top end",its good for the bottom end
    Brissiegirl
    8th Dec 2014
    11:07am
    Banks don't worry me. They are private enterprises and private enterprise has to make the best money it can for shareholders and investors. If centrelink staff don't like the pay, they can look for something better in the private sector. I'd rather see profitable banks than the entire system falling out from underneath us. Also I don't have any jealousy for successful businesses. Unlike the ABC, a monolothic billion dollar socialist organisation that is funded by oftentimes dissatisfied taxpayers who don't hold the same political beliefs.
    Crazy Horse
    8th Dec 2014
    11:50am
    As anyone who has dealt with Centrelink knows they are severely under resourced. Put simply they do not have enough staff to do the job. The staff are under severe stress. They want to be able to look after us.

    Good on them.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    12:29pm
    Wise words, Brissigirl !
    Gra
    8th Dec 2014
    12:45pm
    Can you tell us why Centrelink staff should not be entitled to a fair salary? Why should they have to settle for a salary increase which is less than the CPI so that in fact their earning power is going backward?
    People like Brissiegirl have the blinkers on and can't or won't accept the fact that we NEED public servants. Maybe she would rather see the Police Force privatised, Centrelink privatised and so on.
    We only have to look at the power companies and Commonwealth Bank to see what privatisation does - it makes organisations that don't give a damn about the customer, it's all about making a huge profit for the shareholders and paying multi million dollar salaries to the chair polishers at the top.
    KSS
    8th Dec 2014
    1:15pm
    You are quite correct brissiegirl. If the reports in todays newspapers are to be believed written by the past head of an electricity supplier in NSW the union leaders were responsible for over $300 increase in prices due to their demands and fat salaries.
    Hasbeen
    8th Dec 2014
    2:13pm
    Crazy Horse if the poor Centrelink dears are under stress in their nice low demand low work rate office, a couple of weeks in most private industry would kill them.

    Gra when people are overpaid by a factor of 3 for the job they do, some time, even public servants have to be pulled back into line with the real people working in the real world. That time has come.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:49pm
    Gra - The staff are entitled to a fair salary,
    and they are receiving fair salaries.

    The unions want more in their coffers,
    to replace the thousands of $
    used for corruption purposes !
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    8:15pm
    What Corruption are You Talking About ?..
    Radish
    10th Dec 2014
    2:15pm
    Spot on Brissiegirl. We cannot keep thinking that everything is OK...it is not dire...at the moment but ten years from now what will the situation be if we don't start reigning in debt. We cannot keep on borrowing and borrowing. The piper has to be paid!
    buby
    8th Dec 2014
    10:08am
    and everytime they Make new businesses that are actually on a Sub leased agreement, prices will go UP also. Instead of prices coming down they go up because they have to pay for the leasing agreement, and make a profit somehow. ITs bloody rediculous!! Like selling off of the electric, and gas, and Centerlink. The biggest mistake was selling off the Commonwealth bank so to speak.......What the hell was the government of the day thinking!!!! Yeh mostly about the dollars sign obviously not about Stability!!!
    dweezy2176
    8th Dec 2014
    10:10am
    CentreLink has a corporate uniform? Amazing! Where I am I wear better clothes for gardening than some of the local office staff. As for reading their "Bill of Rights" that should be amusing given most of them go to lot of effort to say & do as little as possible!
    Public Service rule 101 ... never threaten/start industrial action as people might notice an improvement in service!
    Simo
    8th Dec 2014
    10:21am
    Hmm Centerlink Staff Striking well that might improve things, and any way you can do it all on line now and soon there will not be the need for an Office for Centerlink>>> Then the pOOR Loves will have to Work like everyone else..
    Gra
    8th Dec 2014
    12:37pm
    You obviously don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about and just see this as another avenue to kick a public servant. Public servants are no different to employees in the private sector, there are some ordinary ones and there are some bloody good ones who do not deserve to be labelled as a lesser person. If you can do all you need to do online well good for you, it probably saves some decent person from having you look down your nose at them.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:44pm
    You just may have a point there, Simo.
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    10:12pm
    I don't have a problem Whatsoever here with the staff !! They are Great !! Its only they are rushed off their feet ??.. I don't go there often, I use online mainly, but when I do go they are Most Helpful !!!!
    Adrianus
    11th Dec 2014
    3:26pm
    Has anyone noticed the 30,000 Public Service people not at work? If they don't want to do the job unless they get another $12 per fortnight, then many of us unemployed will gladly do the job!
    particolor
    11th Dec 2014
    7:06pm
    Id do it FOR $12 Bucks a Fortnight !!??
    Simo
    8th Dec 2014
    10:21am
    Hmm Centerlink Staff Striking well that might improve things, and any way you can do it all on line now and soon there will not be the need for an Office for Centerlink>>> Then the pOOR Loves will have to Work like everyone else..
    defa
    8th Dec 2014
    12:34pm
    whilst we can lodge documents online and make reports using the Seniors app, Centrelink staff are still required to manage backoffice processes. It takes far too long to speak with a human being on a telephone call which demonstrates insufficient staff but Centrelink is not alone with that - every large organisation has implemented telephone systems which make you hold on "forever". In addition, not everyone has the means or the capacity to acquire or manage technology so there will always need to be a human being to deal with people's problems.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:42pm
    Deep down, I think the workers know they're on a good wicket,
    but too much force by unions
    may actually succeed in making the situations worse.
    particolor
    10th Dec 2014
    8:37pm
    They cant see You Crying on the phone !!
    Adrianus
    11th Dec 2014
    3:28pm
    I think you may be right miss aisle. I can see some staff reductions coming.
    Lula
    8th Dec 2014
    10:23am
    Congratulations to Centerlink staff. They should not accept below standard working conditions for an already very demanding job.
    dougie
    8th Dec 2014
    10:55am
    Do any of you who deride the staff at Centrelink understand some of the abuse and misuse that is ordained upon them by we the members of the public. People are rude - demanding - demeaning and not understanding of what their entitlements are or how they go about securing such entitlements. The abuse laid upon staff by clients is unreal and the recipients to a certain degree have to accept this behavior and try to work with the client to secure an outcome. At times they must wish to hang up and let the client disintegrate in space. We go awry at the time it takes to make a phone contact but the people we wish to speak to are probably helping someone with a problem like our or even worse. There are more of us out here than there are of the client officers at Centrelink. Just a little patience on our part may help those people trying to help us.
    CindyLou
    8th Dec 2014
    5:11pm
    Sweeping generalizations dougie...
    SOME people are rude etc., however, from recent observation of centrelink's interactions with two family members I have a very poor view of the majority of the workers competences and intelligence. They appear to be in 'la la' land, eg, having people come back and forth unnecessarily, do not communicate well in relation to requirements etc. Generally I have a very poor view of this govt dept now having seen first hand my family members interactions.

    I'm just glad that I have absolutely no need to interact with this organization as I don't think my b.p. and stress level could tolerate the madness.
    Tom Tank
    8th Dec 2014
    11:46am
    If it is anything like some negotiations have been going on in Victoria then elements of Workchoices are starting to re-appear. Surprised anyone that Unions will resist this?
    micky d.
    8th Dec 2014
    11:56am
    I'm uncertain what it is that the staff are pressing for by their proposed industrial action so I am unable to comment on that particular issue. However, I do read that people are denigrating the staff for not being helpful and efficient at their work.
    I can only say that, with one exception, I have always been met with politeness and helpfulness in my dealings with Centrelink.
    They do, I'm certain, have to question and fend off many applicants with less than reasonable claims. That might make them "cranky".
    We should give them credit for a difficult job which appears, in the main, to be well done.
    As I said, I do not know what the issues are that cause them to propose their industrial action. Perhaps someone could elucidate.
    wally
    8th Dec 2014
    12:17pm
    Union leadership at it's finest. So the Uniion bosses want the taxpayers to pay more to Department of Human Services staff? What happens next? If the union members get a pay raise, do their union dues go up? Will the Union fat cats give themselves a pay raise for "a job well done"? What do the expect the Federal government to do? Are they going to cut spending in other areas to be able to pay for these new demands? Or is Tony Abbott supposed to follow that well worn track that Rudd and Gillard created to beg more "alms" from the Chinese?
    Are the union bosses and their fans in this forum aware that Santa Claus has left the building? It appears not.
    Gra
    8th Dec 2014
    12:49pm
    You're a Wally alright. Did you ever voluntarily take a pay cut while you were working? You gripe about Centrelink staff trying to get a fair deal, did you gripe when our politicians were granted double figure salary increases? I doubt it, this is just another excuse to have a go at the unions and the workers.
    KSS
    8th Dec 2014
    1:05pm
    Gra I would love to accept the same offer that Centrelink staff are refusing. It would be a marked increase on the $0 rise a year I have had over the past 41/2 years.
    Unemployed for 14 months immediately before that and no pay rises in the 5 years preceding that either. So nearly 11 years since I received any level of pay increase. You bet I'd accept gratefully whatever Centrelink are rejecting.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:38pm
    I think you're spot on, Wally.
    The unions only think of their own pocket
    (especially, with all that corruption with union money)
    Doesn't matter one iota to unions if it's fair or otherwise.
    The people working for the govt.
    should be grateful for the work.
    KSS
    8th Dec 2014
    3:49pm
    Yes Miss Aisle, and as has been proven in the recent union corruption cases what do they spend union money on? Meals, alcohol and prostitutes! Not furthering the interests of the membership.
    B5YCK
    8th Dec 2014
    3:51pm
    Private enterprise create jobs.
    Unions muscle their way in and destroy them.
    Unions have never created jobs, they destroy them.
    Give me one xample of unions create a job except of course for their leaders.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    6:26pm
    Originally, the unions were good, but for many years now,
    they completely abuse their power.

    Only think of lining their own pockets,
    & how many have splashed out on a lavish life-style
    through corruption.
    They're bullies with no conscience.

    Aussie products would be much more competitive on a world scale
    if the unions hadn't been so relentless.
    Enormous amt. of damage has been done by unions.
    wally
    9th Dec 2014
    11:46am
    Gra. I was in the Storeman and Packers Union 25 years ago and any payrises we got were eaten up by bracket creep that rose automatically as our paypackets increased. The supposed "For the workers" mantra spouted by the union leadership at the time was all window dressing and disguised the fact that the union bosses got the cream and the workers got the crumbs that fell off the table onto the floor. The higher wages and benefits that the union bosses got for the Auto workers was good while it lasted, wasn't it? Until 2016 and 2017 when Ford, Holden and Toyota close up shop. So the union bosses managed to finally kill the geese that laid the golden eggs. Do you remember the British Leyland car plant at Pagewood in NSW? They had a strike there and British Leyland closed up shop while the strike was on. Everybody lost their jobs. Is that what you would call the Union bosses acting in the best interests of the rank and file?
    So you think I should be upset because the politicians give themselves a pay rise? How do you know I don't? Are you a mind reader among your other huge talents? If conclusion jumping was an Olympic event, you'd be a gold medalist for sure.
    Adrianus
    11th Dec 2014
    3:54pm
    wally, the union bosses have been getting paid off not to cause trouble and the workers who go in everyday keeping their nose clean, doing their job are the pawns in their little rort. The game is almost over. The only stronghold left is the Public Service sector.
    wally
    12th Dec 2014
    10:08am
    Yep. The union membership has been shrinking for quite some time and unless the union bosses change their attitude and stop manipulating their members for their own personal benefit, the downward slide will continue. Today's union movement is like the dead fish that rots from the head first.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    12:28pm
    Unions always appear to want the upper hand -

    "A spokesperson for the Dept. of Human Services said in a statement -
    We are extremely dissapointed that the CPSU has chosen to undertake a broad
    campaign of industrial action, as bargaining discussions are ongoing
    towards a new enterprise agreement &
    we are meeting our good faith obligations."

    Why do the Unions have to jump the gun
    if bargaining discussions are ongoing?
    Why do not put all energies into ideas for discussions ?
    They like to play the "bullies"!
    KSS
    8th Dec 2014
    1:12pm
    Because Miss Aisle, they always use threats and intimidation to get what they want.

    Whilst there may still be a place for unions in today's workplace, their tactics have not changed in the last 50 years. Thuggary 101 is all they know.
    btony
    8th Dec 2014
    1:13pm
    Isnt the Dept of Human services being the bully here ? As the boss ALWAYS is.
    miss aisle is a troll anyhow, entirely ficticious as are Frank and Solomon
    KSS
    8th Dec 2014
    1:17pm
    btony I don't see how the DHS can be the bully IF they are continuing discussions and meeting their obligations.
    btony
    8th Dec 2014
    1:21pm
    K S S, you've never been in a union and had to fight to get anything, its the boss who uses intimidation to get what he wants, i.e there will 'be no more offers' "jobs will have to go" ," can't afford it"etc ad nauseum. This is always the argument of the boss.I've never been to any negotiation where the boss asks"what are you looking for? That happens in fairy tales
    btony
    8th Dec 2014
    1:27pm
    How do I know you've never been in a union? You're own admission in a previous post"I haven't had a payrise in nearly11 years".
    LNP and the boss loves ya , but it don't pay the bills.
    KSS
    8th Dec 2014
    1:39pm
    No btony I am not in a union and I work for not-for-profit NGO - and have done for the past 10 years+. No big fat salaries for anyone here including the CEO. We are constantly under resourced both financially and with people to do the ever increasing work. So now who are you going to insult?
    btony
    8th Dec 2014
    2:09pm
    There is no insult there K S S, and I find it a bit odd you're insulted, youve never been in a union but you never fail, like a lot of others here, to criticise them because you believe what you read and hear, so it must be true, it's in the paper. I guarantee your CEO would gladly see you working for half what you get now without a thought for you or your welfare
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:23pm
    btony -
    Resorting to the troll comments again, are you.
    If you have proof, show it,
    otherwise put a sock in it!

    What a poor outlook you have on working for a boss !
    Instead of being grateful for a job,
    YOU want to be treated ABOVE the boss -
    "what are you (employee) looking for" ??
    YOU should be asking the boss -
    "Is there anything else that needs doing?" Pathetic.
    btony
    8th Dec 2014
    6:29pm
    miss aisle, for your information I have never used the word 'troll 'before today on this site, get your facts right.I never had to ask the boss ís there anything else needs doing',I was the team leader,so I knew what was needed
    Unlike you I have never had to resort to kissing the bosses bum in order to keep my job, I did a fair days work for a fair days pay, and I might add was treated as an equal by almost all bosses I worked for.
    So keep your stupid comments to yourself, Frank, Solomon,miss aisle.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    7:04pm
    You're definitely confused btony.
    You're continuing with the troll comments where others have left off.
    How original ! Your one time is - one time too much !

    "I've never been to any negotiation where the boss asks "What are you looking for?"
    That's a bad attitude - he does not have to ask you anything !!

    Talk about a contradiction - "had to resort to kissing the boss's bum.."
    Then - "....was treated as an equal by almost all bosses ??
    Confusion ???
    wally
    9th Dec 2014
    9:42pm
    Not all bosses are the same to work for. They are individuals. Some are okay to work for and others, you wouldn't *#** on 'em if they were on fire. Some of us have been lucky enough to work for good bosses, while some of us have not. Simple. In my working life I was in 2 unions. The first was interested in collecting union dues and pushing a left wing political agenda. The second also like collecting union dues. Our union reps in the ware house liked to bung on a 12 hour stop work at about 11 AM. That was so they could go to the pub where they could spend Friday arvo perving on the strippers. (At least that was the rumour).That forced the warehouse management to bring us in Saturday morning and pay us time and a half overtime rate for the first four hours and double time for work we did after that. Sometimes we got double time if we were called in on Sunday. In the four years I was there, we only went on one strike that I was say was justified and that was to save one of our workmate's job. The rest were attempts to rip off the company for overtime and these strikes were at the whim of the union reps. The bubble burst when we were on strike and the company got a judgement against the union. We all got courier delivered letters telling us that we would be sacked if we did not report for our next shift. I was lucky as I got my letter at about 10 PM. Other blokes got their letters put in their letter boxes, which they did not find until the next day after they were due to start their AM shift. They got sacked. No payout for long service or accumulated sick leave. I thought that the union would have put a picket line across the front gate to the warehouse as a show of strength and solidarity. There was none. Those of us that went in kept our jobs. The union had gotten those blokes into the mess that cost them their jobs and then did nothing to help them. I knew some good people there and thanks to the union, I have not seen them since the strike. We did not have many strikes after that, but the union bosses of our union lost nothing except credibility. And I do not think they cared, either.
    Adrianus
    11th Dec 2014
    3:50pm
    btony, you must have had a mistrust of those you worked with.
    So, " I've never been to any negotiation where the boss asks what are you looking for?"
    The reason why your boss never asked is because you had already established your negative surly attitude. They knew your position already. Negotiation is about achieving mutually agreeable outcomes. Are you skilled in that? It's far easier to blame others for our failures btony.
    Polly Esther
    8th Dec 2014
    12:45pm
    So, from what I can decipher, things are going to remain pretty much the same, aye what?
    After all, tis the 'silly season' approaching.
    tisme
    8th Dec 2014
    1:23pm
    to all the 'workers' out there , spare a thought for carers on the job 24/7 for 1.50 an hour , with no union support no nothing
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:25pm
    Absolutely, tisme !!
    Ming
    8th Dec 2014
    1:29pm
    Just get Labor in government all over the country. That will fix the problem, throw money around like there is no tomorrow... don't worry the magic pudding will provide. Get real some of you.
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:31pm
    Exactly, Ericjoan,
    There wasn't this much whingeing,
    when Labor wasted & gave away borrowed
    $billions ??
    Get a grip, people!
    pom13
    8th Dec 2014
    1:44pm
    Don't worry, I understand the government has thought about incorporating medicare & centerlink help desks into Telstra help desk then every thing will be solved!
    Seagull
    8th Dec 2014
    3:10pm
    Where is the money coming from? The deficit this year i predicted to be around $50,000 million dollars,plus we are paying $12,000 million dollars a year interest on our debt.We haven't got enough tax payers, 16% of taxpayers pay 64 % of the collected tax. That means 36% of tax is payed by 84% of the working population.If we carry on giving everybody what they want, Something will have to give. i.e. living standards , bracket creep, The question is dose want to be like Spain, Greece, 40% unemployment, no pension etc. We have a choice fix the budget now or cop the consequence?
    miss aisle
    8th Dec 2014
    3:28pm
    Yes, Seagull,
    If only people could look around & be grateful,
    instead of nitpicking every little thing.
    MITZY
    9th Dec 2014
    5:12pm
    We haven't got enough taxpayers because we haven't got enough jobs to go around, I don' think so.
    We haven't got enough tax to go around to service the basics because a certain percentage of taxpayers, i.e. a small percentage with plenty of money and the ways and means to avoid their tax payable by legal skulduggery, are cheating on the majority of us by not paying their fair share.
    chub
    8th Dec 2014
    3:18pm
    Dweezy...... how right you are, the last time I had to go to the Office (Centrelink) I was seen by a guy who looked like he was a homeless person, he had not shaved, had greasy hair and was wearing really daggy trackie pants.......Have these workers NO pride?? Then he was very condescending..... I didn't want to be there anyway......and so it goes ....Growing old is not for the fainthearted.....
    MITZY
    9th Dec 2014
    5:14pm
    CHUB: At least you managed to find one person at CentreLink who obviously needed a pay rise to buy some decent clothes to go to work in!!!!!!!!
    Bebe
    8th Dec 2014
    4:10pm
    Spot on Brissiegirl. Bebe.
    tj
    8th Dec 2014
    4:11pm
    What was the last thing Jesus said to the public service .? Don't do a thing until i get back
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    9:21pm
    In the Fullness of Time !!
    Jurassicgeek
    8th Dec 2014
    5:08pm
    they are entitled!!!! ...just like or soldiers and anyone else who has an award !!!. Abbott is just trying to save money at the wrong end of the wage scale. The mega rich pay sweet FA tax in comparison and huge multinational companies contribute very little....banks continue to make record profits....but the big savings would happen if we cut aid to those countries run by corrupt regimes.of we know most of this money is not used for for its intended purpose...we should stop all this aid nonsense until our own back yard is cleaned up.We support large numbers of people who are plotting against us and who have no intention of assimilating or honoring our system. Instead our gutless government is reducing pensions and cutting back on health services and generally targeting those who have least to give....
    Gazza
    8th Dec 2014
    7:32pm
    Spot on Jurassicgeek charity begings at home.

    Gazza 8th dec 2014 7.3opm
    unicorn
    8th Dec 2014
    5:28pm
    Yes Jurrasic Geek what I have been thnking the last 10 mins fter reading through most of the answers here a lot have said there are not enough taxpayers - right but paying Taxpayers like our richest woman who pays nil, time & time again. Smart accountants and our dumb accountant Smoking Joe Hockey is stupoid he cant add 2+2 I kep saying it & until he does he'll never be a treasurer "earning" top wages.
    wally
    9th Dec 2014
    9:13pm
    uni, does this mean that you do not like Joe Hockey? Your comments demonstrate more heat than light on the topic.
    austhome
    8th Dec 2014
    5:52pm
    This is the same type of thing that Abbott and his like tried to do to the defence forces which was to give a pay rise less than inflation. Now they're doing it to centrelink staff, so who's next on the Abbott hit list.
    Disco Diver
    8th Dec 2014
    5:58pm
    Give them a pay rise the same as the ADF are going to get (1.5%), see if they like that one.
    particolor
    9th Dec 2014
    7:40pm
    Or 0.03% CPI .. Like Pensioner get ! Yep ! That's about Right !
    Troy
    8th Dec 2014
    6:09pm
    Love reading the comments of all the lib union bashers on here. Truth is Unions are piss weak these days because of all the scabs that rely on the staff with a conscience to fight to keep conditions. Because yes that's what this fight is mainly about, conditions. Not only do they want to give us a 0.4 % pay increase which is a joke, but they wont to take back sick leave, holiday leave, just to name a couple of a list longer than your arm. Oh did I mention sell us out to Telstra who then may send the work overseas to the Phillipines, yes no one tells u that do they? Going to be great to ring up and speak with Wong about your annuity or missing dole cheque...good luck with that. Having worked in the private sector for half my working life for public service, give me the private sector for a rest and some respect anyday. I don't profess to know how the whole public sector works but I know at dept of human services as some people have stated they work bloody damn hard and under immense pressure. The amount of knowledge one has to have far outweighs the average wage paid. Not to mention the computer systems which fall over most days. Dept of Human services will also be the test case for so many other agencies whose workers are now just trying to save their job being privatised and shipped off shore. Irrespective of what ill informed perception some of you have of the public service, I can assure its incorrect and you should all be worried as it might have been future positions for your kids or kids kids that we are trying to save now!
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    8:24pm
    I liked one of them Especially !! He ! He !! The One that always Agrees with Big Business getting MORE Loot !!.. Must Have a Monza of Shares ??
    Troy
    8th Dec 2014
    6:10pm
    Hey Disco Diver, wow 1.5% we have no hope of getting anywhere near that :(
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    8:21pm
    Will anyone Notice ?
    Ill miss my Hours nap in the Waiting Room !!..
    Tony and Joe got one ? We only want a Little Bit !!
    genimi
    8th Dec 2014
    9:29pm
    I worked for Centrelink and it's predecessor for 34years and let me tell you I certainly did work hard and I watched as workmates were physically assaulted (as was I at one point) for no better reason than that a drug addict being unable to control themselves. This sort of thing occurs on an almost daily basis, so yes, the staff are under enormous stress. But this is not about that, this about Mr Abbott eroding people's ability to keep up with cost of living. This is an issue that so many of you have already bagged the government for. The principle here is exactly the same, the erosion of conditions, so try to put your prejudices aside and look at the principle under attack.
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    9:37pm
    I sympathize with them rally !! I only put the Nap bit there because they seem Understaffed ..
    And the Druggy Bit You wrote there, I would cut them off Immediately and call the Police .. Not that much happens to them nowadays ???
    Jack
    8th Dec 2014
    10:28pm
    An Australian Government admin worker is already paid far higher than a worker on a Fair Work Award and I believe their entitlements are also higher. In every workplace you have good and poor service and my experience with Centrelink provided a very poor service. If, as they say, they are understaffed, why not employ more staff rather than giving a pay rise as a pay rise will not reduce their workload.
    miss aisle
    9th Dec 2014
    12:17am
    Maybe they're not the ones complaining about their wages, Jack.
    Maybe just the union trying to revv them up.
    Adrianus
    11th Dec 2014
    4:01pm
    Jack, you make a good point. If they are overworked why not reduce the workload in lieu of a pay rise?
    Miss Elizabeth
    8th Dec 2014
    10:29pm
    I am shocked by many of these comments. I have had a lot of dealings with Centrelink staff during my professional years and now as a pension recipient. In the main my experiences have been very positive. Client services are seriously understaffed. It is very hard to get someone on the phone and someone needs to sort out the computer systems. My local Centrelink office staff are polite, hard working and and work in very stressful circumstances. They suffer, at times, verbal abuse from very frustrated clients.
    particolor
    8th Dec 2014
    10:40pm
    Agreed !!
    Kato
    9th Dec 2014
    11:14am
    It is shocking, how easily the IPA and LNP sabotaged democracy to get power over our national wealth. Like a fifth column they have infiltrated public institutions since Howard legitimised conflict of interest in public office. Our whole public sector has been corrupted by the Chicago school promoters and direct beneficiaries.

    Like a fifth column, they must be discovered and removed to be replaced with PUBLIC servants with the interests of Australians in heart and mind. The so called 'national interest' has become code for fascism.
    Kato
    9th Dec 2014
    11:15am
    “Nothing has been considered, nothing has been proposed, nothing is planned.”

    What a mess. What an incompetent and lying Govt we have.

    They have no plan except that which is ordered by the richest, most powerful and most manipulative influence in Australia today...the Mining and Media Magnates, the 1%. Anyone else who votes for or believes these cruel and disgusting 'representatives' are kidding themselves
    Retired Knowall
    9th Dec 2014
    12:08pm
    I think it's great the way Centrelink employes intellectually challenged staff. having had minor interaction with Centrelink I can understand peoples frustration with this organisation, but give these disabled people a go.
    As for their stop work action....I don't think anyone will notice any difference.
    Suddha
    9th Dec 2014
    4:28pm
    Well said Brissiegirl. These people don't seem to work hard anyway and are paid generous salaries. If they think they can do better, they should resign and go find some other place to work (bludge) and see how much they would be paid. Unions should pull their heads in, as more and more people who really want to work are losing their jobs and these clowns want more & more.
    MITZY
    9th Dec 2014
    5:37pm
    What generous salary do they receive Suddha? How much per week, fortnight, etc.? Do you sit at CentreLink from when they open until they close for the five days of each week and physically watch each and every one of those staff members doing their job. You can't tar every one of them with the same brush.
    It just like the other comment above saying he/she found one of the staff with track suit pants on and was untidy, unshaven, greasy, etc. etc.
    I haven't had a problem with my local CentreLink office, the staff have always been helpful and courteous, but I am in a country area and that particular office would not have to deal with the "great numbers" of the general public that some of the city branches all around the country. I can remember visiting a friend in Bankstown a couple of years ago and visited a CentreLink office which had two full floors of people to deal with, I couldn't believe what I was seeing, it was busier than opening time at David Jones & Myer on Boxing Day sale time.
    As there are limited opportunities to get a job at present, these people working in already under-staffed situations and dealing with the general public for all sorts of different reasons will end up with P.T.S.D. and cost the taxpayer more in the long run. They need to keep up with cost of living adjustments to their salaries but it also seems more staff is required too. More staff means more taxpayers. And we certainly need a lot more of them. How many jobs did our PM say he was going to create?
    particolor
    9th Dec 2014
    7:46pm
    Out local Housing Aria Supervisor is off on Stress Leave, I was just Informed !! !!
    wally
    9th Dec 2014
    9:48pm
    Okay parti. Fess up. What did you do to the Housing Area
    Supervisor?
    wally
    10th Dec 2014
    11:52am
    It is funny about the public service, the bureaucracy and the work ethic (if ethic is, in fact, the appropriate word) these sorts of places engender and perpetuate. My suspicion is that public servants operate under a "tick the boxes" regime. This is where you are deemed to have been doing a good job if the appropriate number of boxes on your report card have been ticked by your supervisor. Does a person who is almost guaranteed a lifetime job going to do more in that job if the chances of promotion are blocked by a log jam of superiors who are likewise frustrated through lack of promotional opportunities? Where is the incentive to excel at work? The bureaucratic system would appear to be based on an "ant hill" model where the worker ants stay worker ants until they die.
    So one goes to work, goes through the motions and does enough to get all the boxes ticked and goes home. Then one repeats the process the next day. For the rest of his or her working life. As MITZI points out in an above post, with the limited number of jobs available, people in the public service are loathe to give up the job security, superannuation and other benefits that the public service offers to them So as long as things appear to going along smoothly, who in that situation would rock the boat and endanger their job?

    9th Dec 2014
    10:05pm
    Oh for heavens sake. Sack them all and outsource the service
    particolor
    9th Dec 2014
    10:09pm
    Starkle Starkle Little Twink, whom the hell You are I think ?..
    particolor
    10th Dec 2014
    4:02pm
    Sol.. Apply for the job above !!

    Ant Eater Needed !!
    Reeper
    9th Dec 2014
    10:36pm
    I have a great deal of respect for those who work at Centrelink having seem some of the problems they have to put up with. That respect will fade if they follow the snout of the overly compensated CPSU Officers. Unions are unfortunately one of the biggest causes of the failure of major industries with excessive and continuous claims. Unions should be looking after the workers, not creating situations which place their jobs at risk. We know the ACTU is actively undermining the current government with a mixture of untruths on top of the mistakes actually being made. Shorten is an abomination who is using his links with rabid Unionism to try and feather his own nest. Be aware Australian workers, a change of government at the next election will see the power of Unionism increase and the power of the average Australian diminish - strikes by those servicing the most vulnerable is nothing more than social blackmail
    Anonymous
    10th Dec 2014
    12:29am
    So very true Reeper.

    Australians blah plus think long and hard if they want a robust prosperous economy with a Liberal government at the helm or the road to economic ruin and years of strife under Labor
    particolor
    10th Dec 2014
    9:46am
    Selling the Farm down the road will do Nothing to fix this !! I wonder if the New Chinese Workers will have a Union ? Yeah Right ! "Here's Your Bowl of Rice for the Day and SHUT UP !!!"
    Not Senile Yet!
    10th Dec 2014
    8:39am
    OMG !!!! Some of the blatantly ridiculous Right Wing & Left Wing comments/views expressed on hear!!!
    How thick are most of you???/
    Political Parties are no more than Unions of the Wealthy named Parties.......they function the same way....are structured the same way......and bully when in power the same way!!!!
    As for the Workers wanting a pay rise equal to inflation?????.......
    Do any of you not understand simple Arithmetic????
    If inflation (Not CPI as it is more than CPI) keeps rolling along at 3 to 5 % and wage increases are kept to 1.5%......do you lot not understand that in 10yrs time your wages have devalued to the tune of 30%???
    If you do not understand that housing prices alone over 10yrs increase by over 50% you must be living on another Planet altogether!!!
    And their are people suggesting that workers should be GRATEFUL to have a job that pays low wages!!!!! Really???
    In third world countries...their economies struggle because the workers have little left from their wages to Spend!!!!
    Economies need workers to be reasonably paid in order that they can have spending power to buy what is being sold.......not rocket science folks......screw the worker and you screw the economy!!!!
    Mind you....the Employer needs to be protected and looked after as well......juggling game for Politicians......but allowing huge profits and poor wages is not going to work either!!!
    Inflation is the Real Enemy for BOTH the Workers and Employers.....not the Unions or Pay Increases alone.....pull the heads outa the sand and stop believing what biased people put on this site!!!!!
    Get you brain to think the issues through before you shoot your ill informed mouths off with drivel and biased comments!!!!
    Unions are only needed when the Employer becomes a bully and gets greedy or treats his workers unfairly......and sure some are worse than others!!!!!......
    Try to remember that workers only want more when their cost of living keeps rising faster than their wages!!!!!
    By some comments written here......some of you would make very bad bosses to work for.....and others would never qualify to get an interview!!!!
    buby
    10th Dec 2014
    12:33pm
    the banks are making billions btony, and the Government is giving your money away
    http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australia-to-give-dollar200m-to-global-climate-fund/ar-BBgzOXL?ocid=mailsignout

    The Liberals complained about Labour back to society, and what do the Liberals do......Hells bells. Again does the left hand know what the right hand is doing.
    I know we have global warming(oh sorry a bit off i know) but u ppl need to know where the money is going!! well some of it?? Other countries should be doing their bit. INstead they are too busy play at WAR, and making more pollution? when does it stop!!!
    particolor
    10th Dec 2014
    8:52pm
    I think Giving Your money away is the least of Your worries ?? Wait till the Recent Imports get going !! Go and watch...The Innocent Prophet... English Version..You/Tube ... I think the 200 Million Bucks is to send a Rocket to the Sun,to cut 2 inches off the wick to cool the Earth down a Tad ??
    Anonymous
    11th Dec 2014
    5:45am
    Another leftist idiot. This site is full of them. Bank shares down 10% over the last month .
    They are not making a sufficient return and prospects don't look good
    Sick of the greed of labor and their one eyed supporters
    geomac
    12th Dec 2014
    1:46pm
    " This policy is forcing working Australians to pay twice for health care - once through taxes and the Medicare levy, and again through the co-payment.

    A parallel is worth considering: there is no co-payment for police care if a person's car is being stolen. Taxes pay the total cost of care. Thus, we provide more support for care of property than for care of our health. This proposal aims to reduce that support for health even more.

    The co-payment is a price signal, but at $5 it signals nothing to a rich politician on $200,000 a year, even with 50 visits for the family over the year. For a low-income-earning family on $50,000, paying off a mortgage, it is a kick in the guts. "

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-12/woodruff-this-gp-price-signal-will-work-and-thats-frightening/5962594
    Adrianus
    12th Dec 2014
    6:59pm
    geo, I didn't expect to read an anti co-payment rant on this thread.

    The system is being abused. Last year there were 275,000,000 visits to the GP. I don't know how only 23m people need to see a Doctor on average once per month? If the system is basically good and of enormous benefit to the entire population then why not keep it going ? Why wait till it becomes such a burden that it needs scrapping.
    particolor
    12th Dec 2014
    7:23pm
    Somebody must have visited Quiet a Few times for Me ?? I didn't go once ??
    Adrianus
    13th Dec 2014
    1:21pm
    I went twice. but for some I imagine it must be a weekly or daily visit. I do hope there aren't Doctors abusing the system? It would not be fair if Doctors are playing God with our Healthcare Budget?
    particolor
    13th Dec 2014
    1:47pm
    Some thought it was a Cash Cow and were caught !! .
    Radish
    14th Dec 2014
    5:31pm
    I don't go to the doctor more than 5 times a year at the most and usually just to get prescriptions. Each visit I pay $70 a visit and get very little back. I cannot see why the doctors cannot just charge a nominal fee for ongoing prescriptions (mine are just for BP tabs) and maybe just the occasional visit to have a check up.


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