7th Jan 2015
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New rules for DSP paid overseas
New rules for DSP paid overseas

As of 1 January 2015, the rules for those on the Disability Support Pension intending to travel overseas have changed. You can now only be out of the country for four weeks in a 12-month period before your payment is affected.

If you have booked and paid for travel before 14 May 2014, you will be able to retain the existing six-week payment period as long as this travel is completed, and you have returned to Australia, before 1 January 2016.

Those who are assessed as having a permanent and severe impairment, with no future work capacity, can have their payments made for longer.

If you have already travelled overseas for four weeks in a 12-month period, there are certain circumstances which will allow you to travel and have your payment unaffected. These are as follows:

  • an acute family crisis
  • humanitarian reasons
  • receiving eligible medical treatment which is unavailable in Australia.

Before planning any travel greater than the four-week limit, you should consult with Human Services.

For more information, visit HumanServices.gov.au.





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    betteroverseas
    12th Jan 2015
    1:24pm
    these new changes are going to cost the govt more by those on DSP abroad being forced to bring thier families to Australia, where as before they were out of the country not collecting all the ancillary benefits such as medical expenses, free rego, utility rebates, free public transport, rent assistance and public housing to name but a few. Wives will be put on carers pensions and DSP recipients will just stay on DSP as the job networks are not geared to place them in work... the actual humanitarian impact will be immense as many families will be destroyed by these changes with some DSP recipients being forced back to australia and unable to support thier families abroad. Shame on the aussie govt. next will be the OAP. do you think you will be able to retire with your old age pension abroad for a better life? think again. just my opinion.
    aly_rob60
    12th Jan 2015
    1:46pm
    Hi betteroverseas......agree with everything you are saying here. Our Govt is a disgrace, the way that it treats genuine Australians in need. Happy to spend billions on sending troops and guns to a war that has nothing to do with us, buying more planes for the airforce, buying bomb-proof BMWs for the pollies to travel around in and yet tell us we have no reason to feel threatened!

    would be interested to know if you are living overseas and where? we are thinking of moving to Fiji :)
    Precious 1
    12th Jan 2015
    4:52pm
    Some seem to by all accounts...medical care best in the world in UK evidently as I once pointed out to a supposedly lower cost dental service for oldies......anywhere and everywhere good if you got well balanced finances in place earning good interest too...some like Bali.......also the Philipines but many go to UK where they came from once widowed or other.......I not sure if they get small amount from here then though.......
    Crazy Horse
    12th Jan 2015
    3:33pm
    Don't blame me. I didn't vote for the idiot.
    particolor
    12th Jan 2015
    9:38pm
    That makes 2 of us !!
    Anonymous
    15th Jan 2015
    2:14am
    Crazy Horse….. I love your avatar, brilliant.

    We should ALL be posting "Don't blame me. I didn't vote for the idiot" on Twitter and hope it goes viral and there is a good chance of that.

    particolor
    How was your festive celebrations… hope you didn't overdo it! I put on 2 kilos and have a red nose from too much sun (naughty particolor… it was NOT the drink).
    particolor
    15th Jan 2015
    7:13am
    Mussi the Red Nose Reindeer...
    Precious 1
    12th Jan 2015
    3:37pm
    Travelling overseas on disability allowances etc...probably going to see pop stars...Its outrageous I reckon...the moment these people leave this country their benefits ald all that it entails should be stopped immediately...there are so many other cultures doing this spending 6 months here and the other 6 months there...it all came out some years ago about this scam......in fact some never return funnility enough if anyone had the time to check with visas and passport documents....but stil collect from here...Change the darn laws year behind the times with bthis hypocrisy.....no wonder we running into trouble and having to have cuts here and there
    Anonymous
    12th Jan 2015
    7:28pm
    Why? Does Jo Bloggs' job and holiday pay and stuff cease because she takes a trip overseas?
    particolor
    12th Jan 2015
    9:40pm
    Because its Very Naughty to visit Syria !!
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:33am
    seeing pop stars? hahaha. this really shows your just another of the uninformed sheeple who watch too much tv. were having cuts here and there due to the mismanagement of the countries wealth by those at the top. people from many other nations like sweeden, norway etc can travel and live abroad if they want. Those countries have a far better social system than we do and better managed wealth.People on DSP are a drain WHILE IN AUSTRALIA. while abroad they dont get all the DSP add ons and if married are put on a married rate despite the wife not living in Australia or having an income. and as for visas etc its all linked these days with the taxation and centrelink...
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:33am
    seeing pop stars? hahaha. this really shows your just another of the uninformed sheeple who watch too much tv. were having cuts here and there due to the mismanagement of the countries wealth by those at the top. people from many other nations like sweeden, norway etc can travel and live abroad if they want. Those countries have a far better social system than we do and better managed wealth.People on DSP are a drain WHILE IN AUSTRALIA. while abroad they dont get all the DSP add ons and if married are put on a married rate despite the wife not living in Australia or having an income. and as for visas etc its all linked these days with the taxation and centrelink...
    Nan Norma
    12th Jan 2015
    5:42pm
    I know someone that left his family here to return to his home country. Married had two more children, continued to collect the disability pension and continued to make money.
    Misty
    12th Jan 2015
    6:11pm
    Most countries nowdays have a reciprocal agreement between countries so you get the part pension from one country and part from another to make up a full pension, you can rarely get a full pension from 2 different countries.
    Anonymous
    12th Jan 2015
    7:30pm
    There will always be exceptions - if governments have a case that someone is rorting - all well and good, but I see no reason why Joe Cripple shouldn't be able to have a holiday overseas for as long as he likes without being punished for it.
    Anonymous
    15th Jan 2015
    2:18am
    Agree with you The.Grappler….
    Nan Norma, that rorting is sooooo contorting, it sounds like a pub story. Every now and again an ugly one slips through the noose (always seems to be the ugly ones!) BUT that is NO reason to punish EVERYONE.
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:38am
    i agree guys, sorry Nan Norma but many of the bad ones are getting sorted these days and the ones that make the media tars everyone with the same brush, saying all DSPers are rorting the system. its just the media. its the way we've become so used to believing what we see on the news.... sheeple.... waaaaah!
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:38am
    i agree guys, sorry Nan Norma but many of the bad ones are getting sorted these days and the ones that make the media tars everyone with the same brush, saying all DSPers are rorting the system. its just the media. its the way we've become so used to believing what we see on the news.... sheeple.... waaaaah!
    Hillbillypete
    12th Jan 2015
    6:36pm
    So what is the go if you are on AGE Pension and your wife is on DSP?
    Anonymous
    12th Jan 2015
    7:31pm
    The Department of Second Class Pensioners will take care of her overpayments.
    Bulldog Bob
    12th Jan 2015
    11:13pm
    Hi Hillbillypete, my wife and I have the same problem. Me on the age pension whilst she's on the DSP. The answer is that you are ok but the wife is stuffed. We booked in July 2014 to go to Barcelona for our sons 40th birthday. We were booked to be away for 38 days. Then this new blooming rule comes in and we are forced to cut 10 days off our trip, costing us big bucks to make the necessary changes, and its not covered by travel insurance. Had to make the change because instead of just suspending the pension if the wife is away for more than 28 days, they now cancel it and she is forced to reapply. Crap like that we don't need with the wife's epilepsy problems. Best of luck mate
    Anonymous
    13th Jan 2015
    12:27am
    If you can afford to go to Barcelona for 38 days whole both on a pension, then you have NOTHING to complain about.
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:46am
    hey Bulldog Bob, dont be discouraged by negative comments like Solomons, theres alot of negative people here. sorry you had to make these changes. My mum suffers from epilepsy and its a scary thing, especially when travelling. I hope you have a wonderful time mate. some people here are so biased about travelling out of the country, they belive its better to save and spend 4 grand on a chinese ran bus tour of australia with the money going offshore than to travel on an australian air company abroad. you earned your pension and deserve to spend it wherever you like!

    12th Jan 2015
    7:48pm
    Makes Absolute Sense.
    Unless you are on permanent disability, why are you not in Australia to be re-assessed or looking for work.
    Its to stop the rorting and abuse that labor policies encouraged.
    Anonymous
    12th Jan 2015
    8:23pm
    Again - how is a person on pension not entitled to take a holiday overseas if they can save for it, without being punished? Again Jo Bloggs' job etc do not cease when she takes a holiday....
    Anonymous
    12th Jan 2015
    8:49pm
    You did not read the article.
    It does not impact those you are on a pension, only DSP and then only if you are temporarily disabled.
    Its to prevent rorts, so its a good thing, No? Or do you support rorting the system ?
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:51am
    the new impairment tables are extreme and many DSPers are being told if they apply for UP (unlimited portability) they will have a good chance of being put on newstart. this is a daunting thing for those with families abroad. whilst still being manifestly disabled they could end up on newstart, or tying up the free legal system through the SSAT. The new laws should have been made retrospective to account for those already abroad.
    Reeper
    13th Jan 2015
    10:49pm
    I am a pensioner and have never heard so much crap from a group of people as I read here. So much supposition, innuendo and politically driven bulls**t from what appears to be people expecting everything for nothing. Most of the comments regarding bringing more family from overseas is pub talk with little or no substance. I will be laughing myself to death when you all vote the ALP back in and they have to find the money to replace what they spent under Rudd and Gillard...perhaps there should be a special pension for some of you called "Short Memory Supplement". And, aly_rob60 what a wanker you are....don't you look outside your own lounge room and see what is happening in this world, and what may happen if countries with the courage don't step in...you certainly deserve a disability pension
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    11:07am
    your the type of person that makes Australia ugly reeper. calling others wankers because of thier views. what a bitter ugly person you must be. I feel sorry for your family and wife, if you have one. and your the one who is stuck in your lounge room drinking $5 beers watching tv and dreaming of the former life you had. its not pub talk at all. I can do this and at the expense of the aussie govt and soon as im at OAP age Ill bing my wife, kids and old age pension back to Asia. If I dont sell up and invest in Asia I can bring my family to aus, my wife CAN apply for a carers pension, I can stay on DSP (as due to my disability I CANT work-despite wanting to). Ill get free mediacl, public housing, free rego, dental, eyeware and all the other things I dont get while abroad. Dont think this is pub talk as Im part of an online community of DSPers sharing information where several people have done just that, and are actually better off financially in Australia despite being subjected to anti Asian biggoted uninformed people from time to time. I see whats happening in the world, especially in countries with a better economy and social network than austtralia, where people have freedom of movement despite being disabled. I'm not into politics, but can see that the aussie govt will always take from the poor and make them out to be the rorters.
    Not Senile Yet!
    14th Jan 2015
    12:20am
    This is nothing short of Discrimination against Disabled Citizens!!!
    Shame on you bigots who deem it rorting to take a holiday longer than 4 weeks.!!!!
    most and I mean Most...who do go overseas have saved for a long time to do so!!!! Most and I mean Most have passed all the required tests to receive a disability pension.....so just what is the issue????
    The issue to me is that the Government feels that it OWNS the disability pensioner's rights because they pay them a pension!!!
    What a load of CRAP that view is....over policed control on a citizen rights to choose...if you ask me!!!
    Sounds like something the Nazis would enact...or maybe the Communists.....but here in OZ....under a democracy??????
    What on earth are these dumbass policy makers thinking????
    betteroverseas
    15th Jan 2015
    10:24am
    well I for one suffer from a debilitating disabilitry that is getting worse with time. The govt said 8yrs ago that it was ok to travel abroad and get married have a family. so i did. I've been living in Asia on my DSP for 10years on and off and abiding by the rules in place. I have no work capacity under the old impairment tables. under new tables even people with cancer that are dying are being refused disability, even A 64yr old legless car crash victem was refused DSP under the new tables. The new cuts on portability were implemented by Gillard from 3 months, down to 6 weeks. We as a family survived this. but now are considering moving the family to Australia so my wife can care for me better there. At the moment we rent a humble house my 2 kids are getting a good education and my health is better than in Australia. Its a common misconception that people on DSP live like kings abroad, however its the way the media portray us. The dfifference is Im part of a good caring community and living my life with some dignaty, and finally got to have a caring family and a wonderful wife. something I never had in Australia. When abroad we dont get the ancillery benefits such as rent assistance, free rego, public transport, public housing, rent assistance or any of thye other add ons. some DSP pensions are even cut to the married rate. Above all I pay my own medical expenses abroad. I'm very tuned in to this subject as it has a severe impact on my family so I do know the rules and it shits me when i see others comment on things they know nothing about! but after all its the general publics opinion these days due to the smear campaign by the media demonizing us. I spent most of my life on the land, when i was struck with this disability I was running a large beef cattle stud property, I didnt ask to be like this and would g;ladly have my old life back. The new impairment tables and rules are draconian and no thought has been given to those who have already set up lives abroad. While the govt says its to save 5 million they forget to tell you the cost to peoples families or the extra benefits those people get while in Australia, that they dont get abroad. Its all a big lie and most of the unimformed public believe it. Dont think your old age pension is safe either- it will be next to be restricted.
    buby
    18th Jan 2015
    1:42pm
    I met a young man who once told me his father had a lot of wifes, and he had a lot of brothers and sisters.......and laughed like hell at the system, who was looking after the lot of them. Muslims they were. they had it all worked out. and They didn't Work!!!!
    Definitely something wrong alright........trouble is the Real Single Aussie woman will suffer, as probably her marriage broke down etc, and tough doing it on her own........
    so YEH them mussi's worked it all out......and Screwing our system for a long long time now!!!
    Shello
    29th Aug 2015
    12:03pm
    I'm planning to travel to the U.S. next year for 6 weeks to visit my best friend (she has had to move back home to the U.S. to care for elderly mum). I am on full DSP

    So under these rules it says I can't go for more than 4 weeks.... What will happen? Will I just lose payment for the extra two weeks?

    This isn't very fair for people just wanting to travel.
    VikkiKay
    19th Jun 2017
    11:24am
    I was born with bone problems and I am in a lot of pain. I have had to struggle all of my life and have suffered mobility and chronic pain since birth. I did not ask to be born this way. It is hard enough trying to cope and trying to live a somewhat normal life. I work part-time because it is all my body will allow me to do. My wage is small and I get a part DSP. I am slowly paying off a house in a low socio economic area that I could afford as well. I have always had to struggle and persevere through pain and exhaustion just to do everyday things like working, housework, trying to buy a home and trying to keep myself as fit and healthy as possible. It is extremely exhausting tring to keep this up all the time. If I went overseas it will take me longer to be able visit places. 28 days for me to be able to visit somewhere overseas like Europe would not be long enough for me as I would have to rest. I do think that I deserve to be able to go on an overseas holiday and not be penalised.


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