Federal Budget 2014 summary

Find out what made it in and what was simply deemed too unpalatable.

Federal Budget 2014 summary

Today Rachel and Debbie travelled to Canberra to attend the Budget lockup and find out what Joe Hockey has in store for older Australians.

It may have been his first Federal Budget, but that didn’t stop him from hitting hard and few Australians have been spared at least some budget pain. For the last couple of weeks we’ve been reading about possible cost savings and revenue raising measures, so let’s find out what is included and what was simply deemed too unpalatable for the Australian public to digest.

Federal Budget 2014 summary

  • Temporary Budget Repair Levy of two per cent on incomes of $180,000 or more, for three years from 1 July 2014
  • Young people will be required to work for the Dole
  • Pensions will be indexed to the Consumer Price Index only, from September 2017
  • Age Pension eligibility age will be raised to 70 by 2035
  • Tighter rules for pensions being paid while outside Australia
  • Indexation freeze on asset and income thresholds for pensions for three years from July 2017
  • Reintroduction of fuel excise indexation from 1 August 2014
  • Introducing a co-payment of $7 for all visits to the doctor and out of hospital pathology and imaging
  • Cessation of the Seniors Supplement after June payment this year (July 1)
  • Lower deeming thresholds to $30,000 for singles and $50,000 for couples combined
  • Thresholds to be frozen for Private Health Insurance Rebate and Medicare Levy
  • Streamlining of government operations by abolishing over 70 bodies, boards, committees and councils
  • Cut of 16,500 public servants
  • Increase in investment in infrastructure to fast track projects considered urgent
  • Establish a $20 billion Medical Research Future Fund
  • Introduce an Emissions Reduction Fund
  • Rephase increase in superannuation guarantee





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    13th May 2014
    9:12pm
    Not tough enough on people on welfare who do not need ....child care not means tested ...etc they wimped it ...
    Misty
    13th May 2014
    10:04pm
    Pete don't you mean not tough enough on the wealthy and Big End of Town?.
    Mike Omment
    13th May 2014
    10:06pm
    not a lot to complain about.....a good and sensible budget
    Misty
    13th May 2014
    10:13pm
    I just listened to John Hewson on The Drum thrashing this budget, left right and centre, although he did agree with the Medical Research Fund so even some LIEBRILS don't like it.
    Luchar
    13th May 2014
    11:04pm
    Sorry, Misty, but most conservatives stopped listening to John Hewson about twenty years ago.
    MICK
    13th May 2014
    11:52pm
    Pete: The words of a rich Australian who has his henchmen in charge to discriminate against those who are too stupid to realise what they have done.
    Hasbeen
    14th May 2014
    12:36am
    Did any of you read Pete's comment.

    He said Not tough enough on people on welfare who DO NOT NEED. Surely we should agree that welfare for people on over $100,000 a year should not need welfare.

    I also agree child care should be means tested, & women on welfare, who do not work, are being paid in welfare to mind their kids. They should not get heavily subsidised child care.
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    6:05am
    Does having PPL at 100,000 mean that all those in the Public Service (including the ABC) who get full pay parental leave at 150,000 PLUS the minimum wage . Get a reduction ??
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    6:17am
    Still have too many bludgers on the government teat ....are we still paying for subsiding solar and buying electricity back at twice the price I can get from my nearest coal fired generator...
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    2:54pm
    Thoroughly agree with you, Hasbeen. Just because someone is "entitled" to a benefit, doesn't mean they "need" it. Means-testing of many benefits and allowances would ensure that those who need help the most, get it, and those who are able to pay their own way, with money to spare, do so. This latest budget not only kicks people when they're down, it stomps all over them. Tony Abbott says that he doesn't like the budget, but it will only affect 3% of the population ((Parliament Question Time, today 14/5/14). What planet is he living on?
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    4:06pm
    He lives on a Planet Far Far away in another Constelation,3rd Boulder from Their Sun LIBERATO !!.. On a Planet named RIPPOFF !!!
    Misty
    13th May 2014
    10:18pm
    More pain when the States raise the GST to pay for the hospitals and schools now that the Feds have washed their hands of them. Schools will get 5 Billion Dollars less and hospitals will get 15 Billion Dollars less so guess who is going to pay for this?, us taxpayers of course.
    MICK
    13th May 2014
    11:52pm
    And this is the next new tax which Abbott has orchestrated and lied about.
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    3:52pm
    I wonder if when they Depart their Luxurious Life Style, they have this on their Stone.
    Here Lies a Lyer
    He lied all His life
    Its OK He's a Polly
    With Forked Tongue
    Goodnight!!...
    A Cigar would be Joyous
    With a 51 Wine
    But Bugger Im dead!!
    I will have to Decline..
    Parti.....
    lindylou
    13th May 2014
    10:31pm
    Morbid, I can see many things that ALOT of people can complain about.
    Seriously gobsmacked at some of the things introduced. Talk about hurting the ones that are down already (and no I am not one of them, but I do have a heart and care about others).
    Ashamed of our Government for kicking so many that are already down.... :(
    Luchar
    13th May 2014
    11:16pm
    "lindylou",
    People would complain about a lot of things regardless of what Hockey said. In the past there have been posts on this site from the whingeing left blaming John Howard as the real the cause of our economic problems because he was too generous with his handouts and didn't leave enough in kitty for the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd economic vandalism. Now those same people are going to complain because Hockey wants to take back a small part of it.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:00am
    I assume you voted for these bandits lindylou.
    lindylou
    14th May 2014
    12:35am
    Mick - I definitely did NOT
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    6:09am
    Like the majority of Australians I did , and now they are doing exactly what we voted them in ( in a landslide) to do .
    We are paying 1 billion dollars a month in interest to foreigners ....dead money ..
    cosluv
    14th May 2014
    1:11pm
    I prefer dead money to dead pensioners/needy folk
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    4:13pm
    This Budget reminds Me of that Seagull that Stole My last Chip !! Last time I was at MANLY !!
    Gwenwiver
    13th May 2014
    10:32pm
    "Lower deeming thresholds to $30,000 for singles and $50,000 for couples combined" - Can someone please explain what is meant by the deeming threshold?
    Gra
    13th May 2014
    11:17pm
    I'm no expert Gweniver but I believe the deeming threshhold refers to money pensioners may be fortunate to have saved. If you are single and now happen to have more than $30,000 in the bank then the government deems (believes) that money to be earning a certain rate of interest - whether you are or not, they don't care - but will reduce your pension accordingly.
    geomac
    14th May 2014
    12:48am
    Rather than tighten the ''taper'' rate that the pension falls with each additional dollar of income, from September 2017, the thresholds for deemed income will be lowered. This is where income from investments is deemed to earn a certain amount of interest, regardless of the actual income.
    A home-owning pensioner couple, for example, is deemed to have earned 2 per cent on the first $77,400 of assets and 3.5 per cent on the rest. From September 2017, the 2 per cent will apply only on the first $50,000 and 3.5 per cent on the rest.


    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/pension-whittled-away-but-super-untouched-20140513-388bs.html#ixzz31bi82u9S
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    1:10am
    Gwenwiver - The deeming rate is set by the Govt for any surplus monies you have on hand.

    If you have say, $100,000 in a bank account, not earning any interest, the Govt deems that you are earning a certain percentage of interest income on it - even if you aren't.

    The interest deemed can also be applied to bullion, loans, bonds, debentures, gifts, shares, and managed investments.

    The "threshold" is the amount set by the Govt where differing interest rates apply.
    At present, any monies or the above-mentioned financial assets are deemed at 2% income for amounts up to $46,600 for singles and $77,400 for couples.
    Over those current "threshold" amounts, the deeming rate is currently 3.5%.

    As you can see, the threshold has been moved downwards so that more income can be classed as coming from your monies or financial assets.

    The result of this change in threshold, is that if you currently have monies or financial assets above $30,000 (single) or $50,000 (couple), and are receiving a pension, you will see a reduction in your pension due to the new, lowered threshold.
    cosluv
    14th May 2014
    1:17pm
    so we should start hiding money under the mattress.
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    4:17pm
    The Bank of Mattress holds no love for Me !! The 50 Cent coins leave My Knees Bleeding on Naughty Night !!
    Gwenwiver
    13th May 2014
    10:39pm
    Again another question based on this "The Seniors Health Card will be harder to qualify for, with the untaxed superannuation of new applicants now counting" Can anyone explain what "untaxed superannuation" is?
    geomac
    13th May 2014
    11:13pm
    My understanding is profits from super which is not taxed at present . You can get 100,000 profit from your super but pay no tax .
    Gra
    13th May 2014
    11:24pm
    @ Geomac - anyone who can earn $100,000 profit as you put it - I take it you mean interest - shouldn't be receiving a government pension anyway. Anyone that has $25M socked away in their super sure doesn't need a Seniors Health Card.
    geomac
    14th May 2014
    12:46am
    Gra
    I was explaining untaxed super Gra not pension eligibility .
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    2:58pm
    Well said, Gra, well said.
    Crazy Horse
    13th May 2014
    10:55pm
    Don't blame me. I didn't vote for these economic illiterates to implement there extreme ideology.
    Luchar
    13th May 2014
    11:46pm
    "Crazy Horse",
    I suspect that you really intended to submit this comment on 13th May, 2013.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:03am
    Well 2 of us didn't vote them in. But what about the rest of short sighted Australians sold a one sided propaganda campaign?
    cosluv
    14th May 2014
    1:16pm
    make that 3 of us.. I didn't vote for the pompous fools either
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    4:30pm
    My old Neighbour told Me He didn't vote for the Liberals either !! He voted National Party ?? WTF ???
    Kali-G
    13th May 2014
    11:08pm
    Last month our Foreign Minister gave $50 MILLION handout to SUDAN!!!!!!!!
    and I guess the arms dealers will be the beneficiaries.
    Our foreign aid is FAR TOO HIGH!
    Cut it out ans save $ 9 BILLION dollars EVERY YEAR!
    Charity begins at home.
    These idiots screw the ordinary Australians so they can throw it away on people overseas.
    Gra
    13th May 2014
    11:26pm
    I agree wholeheartedly, the majority of the foreign aid provided by our government does nothing but support those people who have a deep hatred of the western world.
    Luchar
    13th May 2014
    11:29pm
    Are you certain it went to arms dealers, Kali-G? Are you certain the $50 million didn't go towards providing food or health facilities for some of the most poverty-stricken people on earth. These are people who would think all their Christmases had come at once if they could live in the conditions which our asylum seekers complain about. There probably are countries which do not deserve to receive our foreign aid, but Sudan is not one of them.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:13am
    I could not agree more and I wonder how much goes to Indonesia who not only get Aid money but also run a people smuggling scam which makes them more money and cost us countless billions.

    So why does the media not report on what you have put forward? Is it that the media is controlled by business interests and avoid topics of public interest? And what budget hole is there if we stop wasting what we have? NIL!!!
    buby
    17th May 2014
    1:03pm
    Yes Kali_G I stand behind you with that comment, charity Should begin at home!!!
    buby
    17th May 2014
    1:07pm
    YES LUchar IF it goes to the stricken and hungry, it be great but half from what i been reading, the african governments love the handouts, and guaranteed, it does not FEED the needy and hungry!! But buys more weapons.
    YEH IFFFF
    Yeh i beleive too much goes overseas, NO wonder we got NO money!! and so they are going to try to bleed us dry now??? WTF
    Rob
    13th May 2014
    11:25pm
    Should have gone harder on the welfare handouts for the better off. But I think most Australians were expecting harder impacts.
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    4:22pm
    Oh we were !! We were expecting to be put through the Stadium Roof ! Not just out of the Ring !!!
    musicveg
    13th May 2014
    11:35pm
    It gets me why charge $7 to see a doctor with $5 going to the medical research when I can tell you how to get healthy, just cut out processed (dead)foods,eat fresh,green and wholefoods,reduce chemicals in your food and what you put on your body,around your home,in your garden, and exercise everyday.
    Ahjay
    13th May 2014
    11:54pm
    Don't eat sugar,drink fruit juice,(eat whole fruit instead) if the label says lite or no added sugar,don't touch it.use dripping and butter rather than vegetable seed oil products and you have got the complete package. NO MORE DOCTORS.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:16am
    True. Ann can somebody explain to me why Australians need to go to the doctor every couple of weeks unless they are chronically ill? My family would be lucky to go once a year but then we do look after ourselves.

    I actually think that the co payments are a good idea as it will slow the rorting which costs us all: its only FREE if nobody has to pay.
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    3:06pm
    Mick, you've obviously (from your comment) never been unfortunate enough to suffer from chronic medical conditions that necessitate frequent visits to the doctor. I can tell you it's no picnic, and those of us who are so affected are not "rorting" the system. We see the doctor because we need to do so, for our ongoing survival, and to have some sort of quality of life. And to have to deal with chronic illness on a pension, when that's your only form of income, means that $7 to see the doctor, along with increased costs of prescriptions, can break some people. A little compassion and understanding from you would go a long way.
    carmencita
    13th May 2014
    11:47pm
    Health and education are the most important part of our everyday lives, yet these are cut to the bone. Fair to whom is this budget? Yet MPs salaries and allowances are not affected. they are paid too much for sitting on their butts. They are like TV presenters, they just present what their hired think tanks brief them to do without being in touch with what half of Australian population are being faced with in their struggle for living. If fairness is to be achieved, MPs allowances and perks should be scrapped, get rid of unnecessary government positions like Office staff in MPs offices because they are the ones doing MPs works, cut down car and petro allowances as well as entertaining allowances, MPs should use public transport, instead of making the public pay for their first class travels, etc...
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:17am
    I am told that Heads of Staff get around $800 000 pa. More than the pollies themselves. Ridiculous!!
    lindylou
    14th May 2014
    12:43am
    Well said Carmencita...... Agree wholeheartedly
    FrankC
    14th May 2014
    1:43pm
    And stop paying out money to past PMs and for their offices and cars and petrol. The cost of the offices is ridiculous. Don't they have an office in their large homes, you can't tell me that a large home nowadays was built without one, even the slightly older ones. Then again, why do they need one, what are they doing that requires it. They are getting paid handsomely so pay it out of their own pocket, not the taxpayers.
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    3:09pm
    Tony Abbott earns $507,000+ a year (nearly $10,000/week), and Ian Watt (who works as Secretary of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet) earns $800,000+ a year (over $15,300/week). A Disability or Old-Age Pensioner gets $21,892 a year ($421/week). And Tony Abbott has the gall to say that "we all have to share the pain of the budget"??? Seems to me that someone earning money like him or Ian Watt isn't feeling a whole lot of pain. Oh wait, I forgot that they've generously decided to freeze politicians salaries for 12 months, and that will cost Tony Abbott $16,000 a year (3.2% of his pay). So he can afford not to get a pay increase that equates to 73% of what a pensioner has to live on for a year. Yep, it's tough at the top.
    MICK
    13th May 2014
    11:50pm
    Your say that "...few Australians have been spared at least some budget pain".

    The truth is that average and poor Australians have been targeted and are being hit on all sides. The only thing which is going to hit the rich is a deficit tax of 2% which only lasts 2 years whilst other Australians do their "heavy lifting" ongoing. Yeah right.

    So I wish all of those wonderful Australians who voted for the most dishonest, conniving and nasty government in living memory well. It is said that a population gets the government it deserves. A pity that Australians are not smart enough to see through con men before they do their work. Good luck.

    14th May 2014
    12:15am
    As a pensioner NOTHING in this budget causes me concern, I am always thankful and grateful for the pension I freely receive no matter what the amount. About time others were thankful too instead of complaining and whining all the time. Our currency has the word Australia on it; so pay custom to who it is due, it's due to Australia then pay it.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:24am
    The issue is that this government would love to abolish the pension altogether. They can't but they can reduce it year in and year out and this is what they have done in the budget: linked the pension to the CPI rather than average earnings. And yes there is a difference.

    Remember too that pollies have not only doubled their own salaries in a 1 year period but get their over generous superannuation as soon as they retire or are thrown out of office.

    It is good that you are content with your lot PIXAPD but as far as a fair go is concerned understand that pensioners are a target because they do not unite and vote against bad parties preferring to vote for the same party they may have supported for a life time. That is a real problem and sounds very much like dementia. The 2 sides of politics would be grateful for that as they would be out if pensioners did the unthinkable: voted unanimously when attacked by governments.
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    12:52am
    I suppose in the end each person has to work it out for themselves, some are content others are not and never the twain shall meet.
    sidney70
    14th May 2014
    8:34am
    Hear, Hear PIXAPD. It is better to give than receive.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    11:52am
    Well I guess on has to have something to give. Whatabout bringing back unearned income tax.

    That is a tax on income that has been earned without working. A great proprtion of the fat cats earn from just moving money about, (e.g. Forex) which actually does nothing for the economy except damages it. It is earning money from nothing.

    I just read an a long article about in the age that in the the USA the divide between the super rich and the downward trend of the poorest (even the middleclass) is getting so bad that it is becoming like what caused the french revolution. Here the aristocracy has simple been replaces by the super rich. We all know what eventually happened to the french aristocracy.

    The top 10% in the USA get (I won't say earn) 56% of national income. The top 1% get 20% of the income. And that is not counting capital gains. This probable doesn't include what these people have salted away into tax havens.

    The Republicans want to drop the company tax rate from 35% to 25% which Obama is vigorously fighting.

    Is this what Hockey and Abbott is trying to head for?

    They seem to forget that there is over 20% of young people out of work, ( I guess this will be higher now if they are including up to 30 year old) Most are only two willing to find a job. Do they thing that this large segment of the population (most at voting age) will forget when the next election comes by. Add to this the 30% of seniors who also are being dropped on the pile. Don't think they have much chance.

    When figures like the above come out it causes resentment and bitterness then antisocial behavior. Can you blame them when a fat cat cigar smoking politician says we must share the pain when they see most of the pain being borne by them.

    Labor as much as the liberals are to blame here. Responsibility gets thrown out of the window come election time when their positions become on the line. We could see that both with Howard and Rudd throwing money are like confetti.
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    1:49pm
    'More blessed to give than to receive'<<<< INDEED..for it was a great blessing to me TO GIVE tax for 47 years...........hee, hee.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    12:28am
    And whilst I have the floor readers should realise that AUSTRALIA WILL HAVE THE HIGHEST PENSION AGE IN THE WESTERN WORLD at 70 years of age. What a wonderful statistic to flash around at international conferences.............."yeah, we really stuck it up those pensioners".
    Ruthie
    14th May 2014
    12:46am
    Smokin'Joe and his cigar-toting mate Cormann are deceit and arrogance personified. If the government really wants to lower the deficit, they should eliminate the tax concessions for millionaire superannuates; that alone would raise $34 billion. And as David Marr pointed out last night, John Howard in 2007 was so desperate to get re-elected, he pissed the profits from the mining boom against the wall and gave $70 billion in tax cuts. As a pensioner, I truly know what it is to struggle and a comment from some pensioners saying about being healthy - how lucky you are not to have chronic medical problems. My prescription bill last week was $92, plus another $23 for a non-PBS item. I also note, that Peter Dutton has put a surcharge on one of my PBS items, so that the cost has gone from $6 concession price to $10.80 and it is not something I can do without. Did i hear right tonight that the price of concession PBS items will rise to $10? Not sure if that was correct. If so, I will no longer be able to afford essential medicines and have a thought for people with cancer who have to pay thousands of dollars for cancer fighting drugs. Joe Hockey declares that a co-payment will lower the level of debt and then find that $2 will go to GP and the rest to support the medical research project. Who has to pay - the less well off in our society> Don't blame me I didn't vote for Tony Abbott and look forward now to the next election. For too long now this heartless government is more interested in the almighty dollar and their rich mates than caring for the more vulnerable in our society. What happened to a fair go for all Australians. Who of you would pay $22000 for a meeting with Joe Hockey?
    Anonymous
    14th May 2014
    1:23am
    Ruthie - Right on. Business gets a 1.5% tax cut out of this budget - at a time when over 80% of businesses are recording record profits.
    Look at the banks monstrous profits!
    21% and 24% for some credit cards when they can borrow money locally for 2.5% and overseas for 0.1%!!

    This "deficit tax" on the wealthy is less than what the wealthy would spend on champagne in a week.
    Meantimes, the pensioners and the sick get to bear the brunt of the "budget savings"!

    This Govt is one of total deceit and pandering to big business.
    The corporate bosses will be laughing all the way to the money bins this week!!
    Election promises mean nothing to this crowd.
    The actual budget deficit has already been proven to be far less than Hockey claimed it was.
    Jen
    14th May 2014
    6:32am
    Perhaps if the big miners had to pay the same rate of tax and the same for fuel as we pay, the Government could leave the pockets of sick pensioners alone. Perhaps if we didn't pay well-paid women $50,000 to have a baby, the Government could leave the pockets of families alone. Perhaps if we didn't spend billions on fighter aircraft, we could all live in peace. As an aside, Google Australia earned $468 million last year and paid around $450,000 tax. Not a bad deal. All profits left the country.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    9:52am
    Voters were conned by the media which is owned by big business. So don't expect anything else other than what occurred when you vote in the rich man's party. That is how it works.

    Did anyone notice that the rich had almost no hits other than a 2 year Deficit Tax and that business had nil tax hits. So ordinary Australians are the "heavy lifters". It was always going to be so. Congratulations to those Australians who voted in this pack of despicable, lying Howard left overs. You get what you get.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    12:01pm
    And here is one of the causes why we are here today. $70billion in cash tax cuts did not affect the balance of payments left to Labor. This reduced the amount of revenue that was subsequently got by the Labor government each year. This effectively made the balance of payments chickenfeed. But Rudd did exactly the same unfortunately for him he wasn't chucked out so had to wear it.

    Economists have been saying time and time again that it is the revenue that was the problem not the spending. When you give away the revenue and then had to do what Labor did to get use through GFC then you can see why. If this $70Billion of revenue hadn't been given away we would not be suffering today.
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    3:18pm
    Ruthie, if I had a spare $22,000, I would definitely pay it to meet Joe Hockey, as long as he brought his mate "Phoney Tony" along. And as long as I had a cast-iron guarantee that I wouldn't end up in jail for firmly planting my feet as far up their lying backsides as I could get said feet.
    Pass the Ductape
    14th May 2014
    3:29am
    Same old same old! One government hands it out and the other side of politics arranges to grab it back again. The common dominator is one where those on the lowest incomes and pensions, continue to pay the lion's share of any recovery.
    Luchar
    14th May 2014
    12:03pm
    Ductape,
    How do you work out that "those on the lowest incomes and pensions continue to pay the lion's share of any recovery"? Every cent of benefit handed to pensioners and low income earners comes out of the taxes paid by those who earn a taxable income. And as we are now informed, 40% of income earners pay no net tax - that is, 40% of income earners get more back in benefits than they pay in tax. So, Ductape, who is really going to pay the lion's share of any recovery?
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    10:35pm
    And Luchar, everyone seems to forget that these on lowest incomes also pay tax, gst on services payment for products (except on some foods) and a heap of other things.
    Kristo
    14th May 2014
    4:13am
    If you receive the supplement fortnightly yo have appeared to have lost a big chunk of disposable income. $62.90 pfn max for singles for example. That figure also has rolled into it the pharmaceutical. utilities. gst and telephone payments.
    The devil is in the detail so when the full text comes out we will see I guess.
    Kristo
    14th May 2014
    4:57am
    Looks like it depends whose summary you read in the media analysis on this. Other outlets say its withdrawn for Seniors Health card holders.
    Debbie McTaggart
    14th May 2014
    11:52am
    The Seniors Supplement which is being withdrawn after June this year is only paid to Commonwealth Seniors Health Card holders, this is is not the pension supplement which is paid to those who receive a pension.
    Bella
    14th May 2014
    7:04am
    What about all the baby bonuses ,stay at home and still getting paid to play mum.....young girls never worked a day in their life and just breed babies to different fathers and collect Hugh amounts of money every week. Generally the guy lives in and possibly gets the dole. Makes me sick what a lazy selfish generation of youths ( not all of them, we have some great young people) but we also have a whole new breed of bludgers. We never got paid to have kids or stay home and look after them. At the expense of some hard working people...the prisoners in jail get more than then pensioners supplied. Put them to work making new roads like they do in the states....wake up Australia...
    grandma
    14th May 2014
    3:25pm
    Definitely on the right track there Bella, I believe they should help with the first mistake, we can all get in that position [though with birth control these days it should not happen]. After the first child then they can support the rest. In the case of a marriage breakdown however different rules should apply. They should force marriage counselling session on the couple and garnishee the other partners wages to pay the benefit to the single partner who is supporting the child.
    Ruthie
    19th May 2014
    10:20am
    When I had my baby (nearly 42 years ago), I received the princely sum of $2. I was forced to have 6 months out of the workforce with no support whatsoever! I was allowed to draw my super to survive and then found I was not allowed to rejoin. I had been working for 12 years and my super (personal and not employer funded) amounted to about $1000. When changes came in in 1993, I was told that I could buy back service. When I applied I was informed that I would have to buy back at 1993 rates and pay for all the compound interest, plus an amount the government would have paid (and never did) - all at 1993 rates. The cost would have been $300000 and that would pay me $300000, so effectively $0. I still have the letter from the Tasmanian Education Department informing me of this. I wrote to then Liberal Premier of Tasmania, Ray Groom, but with no luck. He informed me that there was a small number of women (I think about 6) who were in my position and it would cost the government too much. Then they gave themselves a 40% pay rise. It was interesting and galling to find that if I had a certain male appendage , I could have bought back the $300000 for about $87000! Talk about discrimination. Three years later I had to retire due to ill health and was forced onto a disability pension then later an age pension. Now I am forced to help pay for the excesses of the Liberal Party. I noticed in thew weekend papers that Joe Hockey had a dinner with G20 Treasurers in New York recently all funded by the Australian taxpayers. The cost of the dinner was $50000 and yes a top chef accompanied him and the most expensive foods for the meal were flown from Australia. Think of the airfares as well! A single pensioner, as I am receives a bit over $21000 per year - $423 per week. This dinner cost what I receive over 2.4 years. And don't you all love all the corruption re Libs funding through illegal slush funds coming out at ICAC? Enough of the corruption and greed by this mob.

    I am heartened to hear this morning the overwhelming rejection of the Lib budget and how much their popularity has dropped. I knew this would happen prior to the election, but unfortunately the Murdoch papers trashed the Labor party and many believed the rubbish they published. Tony Abbott is just now bleating on on national ABC about the setting up of the medical research program and how he was instrumental in setting it up. Of course, now the pensioners and other ordinary hard-working Australians are to pay for this program. I thought the so-called co-payment was to help with Medicare, but now most of it is to be put into this project and $2 to GP's. Think of all the paper work for GP's and also think of the couriers of pathology services collecting payments and having no protection from criminals.
    Bella
    14th May 2014
    7:09am
    I know of millionaires , who invested '$ one million dollars in a scheme just before the Howard government went out of office, where as they would get $80,000 per year tax free for the rest of their life, never get the million back. But pay no tax...the two people I am talking about from the one family have millions...and they both get $80,000 a year tax free.
    So the poor will never prosper from the rich...money makes money that is the cold hard fact
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    9:55am
    Tell ICAC if you have information. They'll love it if it is crooked. And given what we have seen out of state liberal of late it would not surprise me as the whole party is likely tarred with the same brush.
    Betty Blue
    14th May 2014
    7:34am
    You are a rat Joe Hockey. You are reducing Pensions income by $876 p.a. from June . Will our rents be reduced by that much or our medical costs? No! and now even in the rare instances where we can find a doctor who bulk bills in the country areas we still need more money to collect a script.
    How hypocritical to offer to refuse a pay rise that you weren't even going to get.
    Come walk in my shoes for a month!!!
    Swinging voter
    14th May 2014
    9:15am
    What will pensioners now pay for scripts?
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    9:56am
    People get the government they deserve. So did you vote for this bunch as well? Bet you did.
    Debbie McTaggart
    14th May 2014
    11:54am
    The Seniors Supplement which is being withdrawn after June this year is only paid to Commonwealth Seniors Health Card holders, this is is not the pension supplement which is paid to those who receive a pension.
    Ruthie
    19th May 2014
    10:31am
    To swinging voter - pensioners will pay $6.80 per script up from $6.00 - for me that equates to about an extra $14.40 per month or $172.80 per year. Add to that fuel excise and the co-payment ( I have a number of chronic medical conditions) to my GP and then of course, I normally have specialist visits each year - so far 12 this year.
    sidney70
    14th May 2014
    8:25am
    Ho Hum. Another year ,Another budget!!
    WTF
    14th May 2014
    8:43am
    will money (if kept in my TAB account) escape deeming?
    sidney70
    14th May 2014
    9:10am
    If it is kept in My account it will.I will give you my account details.
    niemakawa
    15th May 2014
    6:59pm
    No.
    Swinging voter
    14th May 2014
    9:14am
    I thought the LNP refused to raise the superannuation contribution from 9-12%. I thought super was on its way to phasing out the pension. I thought petrol was already too expensive and low-income Australians struggle to fill their tanks. I thought the doctor (now including pathology, x-rays) co-payment was to improve the budget but it's going to medical research, who told us that before the election? Joe better enjoy his celebratory cigars because he won't be doing another budget. People have long memories and the internet makes sure we don't forget anything these days. I thought they would sensibly make haste slowly, skilfully repairing the budget over two terms with the support of a trusting public. Obviously I thought very wrong.
    particolor
    14th May 2014
    9:55am
    Obviously !!
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    10:00am
    Duped weren't you? I have never ever seen a government which had no intention of keeping any of its promises once the election was over. Once in every promise was ditch. So the lying was intentional.

    This government needs to be removed as it is perverse and and is showing signs of a dictatorship as it behaves in a manner which no other government I can ever remember has. It is one thing to change your mind about a policy once in power but another thing altogether to INTENTIONALLY lie your way into power and then laugh at voters the day you are elected and throw every promise out the window.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    12:15pm
    Unfortunately for people like Hockey and Co. Social media now will amke sure people will not forget.

    When the next election comes how can they now spout "Trust Us" in the leadup to the next one.
    Swinging voter
    14th May 2014
    12:24pm
    I was also angered by Gillard's obsession with power - to the point she did deals with green extremists in order to be PM. Between Gillard and Rudd's vote buying spree, they caused all this and are now running all over the world showing off their miniscule talents - on our money. But that doesn't excuse this government for telling lies the week before the election.
    cosluv
    14th May 2014
    1:35pm
    hopefully labor will get rid of that dickhead shorten soon..
    Tom Tank
    14th May 2014
    9:58am
    Abbot banged on about Gillard telling lies about the carbon tax but it appears that he doesn't think he has lied to gain office. Really Tony you should have remembered that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword".
    He, Tony, stated during the referendum campaign on the Republic that politicians cannot be trusted and he has certainly shown that he was applying his own personal standard of "honesty" to that statement.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    10:04am
    I find it hard to digest that this bunch have the gall to front the media and lie, lie, lie. Even when questioned they just ramble on about something but refuse to give a yes/no answer to the "you lied" question. It is a concern that Australia should ever have such a bunch. What will they do next?
    Oars
    14th May 2014
    10:43am
    Tom you seem to forget that Gillard spent $47 Billion on a range of school buildings that the recent audit found only $20Billion accounted for Many were not asked for, and others just didn't measure up.. Lie or no lie- Labor RORTED the Australian taxpayer that hurts their WERKER. How more simple can I make it. Aussies were "screwed" by a commo.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    1:18pm
    Not true Oars. There was some rorting but run down public schools got some of the cash the rich schools had gotten for decades. Unlike second swimming pools, state of the art computers and the newest buses state schools got some of their dilapidated and third world infrastructure fixed. The Gillard government did a fair job and I suggest you are quoting the rhetoric from the current slime as fact. it isn't.

    THE BEST WAY FOR RETIREES TO FIGHT THIS CONTEMPTIBLE AND LYING GOVERNMENT IS TO JOIN TOGETHER AND VOTE THEM OUT. I have suggested many times that pensioners, who make up around 30% of the voting public, should vote for a good Independent and bypass the 2 Woolies and Coles of politics parties. This will work as the bastards will have to fix their house if they ever want to get back in. And I dare say that Independents will actually work for the community, not the interests of big business (money, money and more money) and people will realise that they do not want Liberal or Labor again. This is the worst fear of both majors and I recall them demonising Independents before the last election. This happened bacause they are scared.
    Tom Tank
    14th May 2014
    4:23pm
    Oars you totally miss the point I made. Abbot hung Julia Gillard out to dry for lying to the electorate before an election. He has now done the same, despite trying to spin his way out of it, so he should now be tarred with the same brush as a liar who would do and say whatever it took to win office.
    Ruthie
    19th May 2014
    10:41am
    The most frequent mantra spouting out of Abbott's mouth is "We will get rid of the carbon tax." What an irresponsible fool Abbott is. We all know that he famously called climate change 'absolute crap'. Well now it has been revealed that the Coalition has so far received $7.3 billion from the carbon tax - more than $1 billion more than Labor . Oh, by the way, the extra on my power bills amounted to about $40 since July last year and the Labor Govt made sure pensioners did not have to carry any burden. Now we have Abbott and his fellow climate deniers dismantling renewable projects and the climate change commission. Here in Tasmania, the CSIRO is going to lose top scientists, oh, but I forgot we now don't need a Minister for Science ( first time since early 1930's. I am becoming more and more cynical as I despair over these fools in power.
    Gin
    14th May 2014
    11:02am
    Against all the money to be spent on research, why do we strive to be the best in the world???As a research patient I can justify my comments . My transplant cost one million dollars plus. Much of this spent at governments expense flying to and from Sydney and ret from Brisibane to be told on arrive that the prof. was out of the country?????Each fare was one thousand plus???How is the money to be accounted for, remember the millions already spent!!
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    1:21pm
    I have a bet each way here Gin. Australia comes up with some wonderful inventions but usually gives away for free what cost so much to discover....the sign of a stupid country.

    On the other hand visits to the doctor are now going to be hit with a co-payment and the money NOT put into hospitals as stated but rather sent on to the research fund. The next lie.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    10:39pm
    Yes Mick and this was because the government would not support them.
    Ozetwo
    14th May 2014
    11:21am
    I am totally over it. Given the swing against Labor, then many of the whingers must have voted for the Libs. How dumb of them to expect that the budget would be kind to the less well off at the expense of the wealthy. The next big move from this lot will be the reduction in workers wages to make us "competitive" so that they can pour more money into millionaires pockets. Wake up Australia.The average and poor Aussies will never be looked after by a Liberal government. The great lie that was played and totally believed by many Australians is that Australia is heavily in debt with it being likened to a household budget so that the naive could understand. The analogy falls down badly in that the country Australia as an asset with all of its in-ground wealth is worth a tiny bit more that a brick veneer in the suburbs.
    Whichever party is in I would prefer to see members only serve a maximum of a ten year term to get rid of the self serving career politicians who will do or say anything to keep in power and try to reduce what appears to be systemic corruption whichever party is in power.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    12:19pm
    I think this is one of the reasons that the president of USA can only serve two 4 year terms. Unfortunately this does not apply to congress or rep members.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    1:27pm
    The media ran the last election campaign. Big business owns the media. So understand that the propaganda election campaign was run by big business for big business. So is it any surprise that big business got a 1.5% drop in the company tax rate whilst average Australians were hit on all sides. if Australians were not so dumb they would have taken note of how the election campaign was going and the one sided nature of this + the Liberal can do no wrong theme as Labor kept getting 'exposed', for want of a better word. Australians were set up as the media is anything other than the free press.

    As for a 10 year term ask yourself this: would you want Tony Abbott and his Howard era left overs be in for 10 years? If your answer is yes then expect to get what Howard could not: Work Choices where we turn into a defacto America and people live in cardboard boxes or slums. Do yourself a favour: go to the US and check it out. I've been a number of times and it is sad.
    MarLin
    14th May 2014
    12:14pm
    It was former British statesman Benjamin Disraeli who said "It's fashionable for governments to create a crisis" - and that, of course, is precisely what this government just did to pre-sell their budget. Sadly, though, they have (unwittingly?) now sown the seeds for a REAL crisis: what do we think the under-30s without jobs and unemployment benefits are going to do? Some will bludge of their families and some will live on the streets. But I fear a great many will do what the poor do in other countries, ie turn to crime!
    MarLin
    14th May 2014
    12:16pm
    ...I should have added: and make it unsafe for you and I to walk the streets!
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    12:26pm
    And of course this will lead to reduced freedoms for all of us as more police are requited (At the cost to the states of course) extra powers given and our freedoms subjugated.

    All because this government widening the breadth of inequality.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    1:29pm
    Disraeli also coined the phrase "lies, damned lies and statistics". So what dod Abbott say about the economy and the supposed debt BEFORE the election.
    rtrish
    14th May 2014
    12:54pm
    Thank you to Rachel and Debbie for going to Canberra and "enduring" the lockup on our behalf!
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    1:31pm
    I watched the movie "V for Vendetta" last night. The irony that this was put on th night of the budget does not pass me and Tony Abbott reminds me of one of the lead characters. Funny that.
    Bes
    14th May 2014
    2:27pm
    Well Joe, thanks for nothing! What taxes I paid during my working life were squandered by politicians. I retired and get a pension. Politicians as far back as Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and Howard, along with members of THEIR governments are all STILL on the payroll Joe, just like YOU will be!!
    But YOU want an Australia WITHOUT aged people.
    You want to dip us into the fountain of youth and have us work until 70, which by the way, I am and do Joe.
    But the fountain didn't work for me, so I HAVE to have regular blood tests and HAVE to get regular prescriptions to stay alive. So now Joe, you have found a way to TAX THE SICK!
    To help you out we ourselves have handed down our own budget:
    The car that we intended to purchase is cancelled, we'll spend a little extra on repairs and keep old faithful. (better the devil you know Joe!) A saving of several thousand dollars.
    We shall not be giving to any more charities as Your Medical Research Future Fund will look after all of that. A saving of $400 based on no more payments to Heart Foundation, MS, Cancer research and various other charities.
    I work as a volunteer at the hospital too Joe but now the price of petrol seems set to rise so we'll be taking a look at that travel expense as it transpires.
    Buying online is now a priority, whoever's economy it helps Joe!
    And maybe regular 'garage' sales to help out with a little cash. (Not for your ears Joe!)
    We'll certainly be looking very hard at the next election of course, unless you beat us to it and mandatory euthanasia is introduced!
    Sorry for working all my life, raising a family and paying tax, being careful and purchasing a house etc but most of all I'm sorry for being old, I thought politicians would plan like we did!! How wrong can you be?
    And on top of YOUR budget Joe, we in WA have Mr Barnett to contend with! (the Unlucky country eh Joe?)
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    3:51pm
    Top post. It tells a 2 speed story: rules for some and different rules for others. But you have to come to grips with who the Abbott government answers to and who paid for its campaign costs. If one were to look closely I am sure you would see some pretty rich folk along with coal companies (paid to dismantle the carbon tax....which incidentally is actually working) and the mining industry (who will now not have to pay a mining tax of any sort) as well as whole host of other self interest groups.

    The truth of the matter is that ordinary Australian people are little more like cattle who can be easily conned and programed by governments with their slick advertising campaigns. The blinkers were taken off for me a decade ago but sadly most Australians are sheep to the slaughter, or is that cattle.

    You sound like hard working Aussie who has always played by the rules. I do feel for you. But we are dealing with immoral people in parliament who don't care as they play their perverse game.

    In all of this the culprit is that government of both persuasion are more than happy to flog anything of value off to foreigners for a quick buck. This means that we then have to import (and pay) for what we need and that these industries then contribute to the bank accounts of foreigners, not us. To give you the extreme case we are now flogging off freehold (=gone forever!!) farmland to FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. So where is this going to end for our inhabitants as thousands of ship loads of food are taken back to China whilst a growing local population gets hungrier and hungrier. This is exactly what happened to our gas assets and Australia now does not have enough gas for its inhabitants despite being in a land overflowing with the stuff.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    10:45pm
    WOW Bes, I wish I could put it all in context like that.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    10:48pm
    What happens when there is nothing left to sell?
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    2:34pm
    Getting into the spirit of things, I thought I'd join Joe Hockey in his pain of working out budgets, and yesterday I sat down and worked out my budget for the next 12 months, taking into account anticipated expenses covering rent, food, electricity, prescriptions, petrol, 'phone, insurance, everything I could think of that I would have to pay out. Then I broke the expenses down to what it would cost me every 2 weeks.

    I found that I have an excess of money at the end of every fortnightly Disability Support pension payment, and I couldn't believe my good fortune. I couldn't sleep last night for trying to work out how I would spend this enormous windfall each fortnight. Because, let's face it, $7 will go such a long way.

    Following Joe & Tony's generous Budget, I've now been given so many options for treating myself with my $7. I can spend it on a visit to the doctor one fortnight, the next fortnight I can spend it on a prescription the doctor wrote the last time I saw her, then the following fortnight I can put some petrol in my car so I can get to my volunteer work. I'm positively spoilt for choice.

    My budget didn't include spending on car maintenance, vet bills, going out for coffee or meals, buying small gifts for friends and families birthdays, Christmas gifts didn't get a look in, and Heaven help me if I'm suddenly hit with unexpected expenses. Saving for a holiday? ... I might have enough for a day trip to the seaside every 12 months if I forgo luxuries like heating the house, or buying clothing (from Op Shops).

    Decisions, decisions. What to do? Think I'll blow 70 cents and send a letter to Joe and Tony and ask their advice on how best to spend my riches. After all, they'd be sure to understand how hard it is keeping to a budget when you're on a limited income ... wouldn't they?
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    2:43pm
    I worked all my life, paid taxes, and through work accidents (& other issues) I've ended up on a pension. It's a struggle every day, and the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. I'm spitting chips at how Joe & Tony's budget targets those who can least afford it. Let's pay women on $100,000 a year paid Maternity Leave, while pensioners (whose only income is the pension) struggle to find money for the basics to survive. Let's give tax breaks to people who earn obscene amounts of money so that they don't actually pay any tax. Let's give discounted prescriptions and Health Care cards to people who have million-dollar homes and money to burn, even though they don't need the discounts. Let's give ex-politicians generous travel perks for them and their partners, and let them get enormous pensions while they go on to earn huge salaries in other jobs when they retire from parliament.

    Tony Abbott earns $507,000+ a year (nearly $10,000/week), and Ian Watt (who works as Secretary of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet) earns $800,000+ a year (over $15,300/week). A Disability or Old-Age Pensioner gets $21,892 a year ($421/week). And Tony Abbott has the gall to say that "we all have to share the pain of the budget" and that it's a "hard but fair" budget??? Seems to me that someone earning money like him or Ian Watt isn't feeling a whole lot of pain. Oh wait, I forgot that they've generously decided to freeze politicians salaries for 12 months, and that will cost Tony Abbott $16,000 a year (3.2% of his pay). So he can afford not to get a pay increase that equates to 73% of what a pensioner has to live on for a year. Yep, it's tough at the top.

    There's going to be a huge fall-out from this budget, and a lot of very unhappy people. If the Liberals get voted back in at the next Federal election, it will be nothing short of a miracle. They're cutting money from health and other areas, saying that the State governments will have to deal with it, or find the money themselves. So not only is there pain from the Federal budget, there'll be a whole lot more pain when State governments cut services and raise fees to cover the money they won't be getting from the Federal government. I've been on a public hospital waiting list for hand surgery for nearly 18 months, and I shudder to think how long the wait will be now. In the meantime, I have to decide whether I spend money on food or prescriptions for pain relief, severely restricted in any activities that require me to use my hands or attempting to do things and damage my hand even further.

    OK, rant over (for now). I'm going to make a coffee, while I can still afford to turn the kettle on, and make a nourishing and exotic lunch of Vegemite on toast, while I still have food in the fridge.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    3:54pm
    So who did you vote for?

    And if you can see what is going on you'd have to suspect that Abbott intended the states to bring in their own GST so that he can sit back and say that it wasn't him. Add that onto the already high tax increases.

    But I did shout what was going to happen during the propaganda fueled election campaign the media ran. So now we have the government the community wanted and deserves. Not pretty Jan!
    Muffy's Mum
    14th May 2014
    5:48pm
    I certainly didn't vote Phoney Tony and Fat Joe in. I don't know how either of them can sleep at night, as they're not only kicking people when they're down, they're stomping on them in an attempt to extinguish all visible signs of life. I'd rather have teeth pulled without anaesthetic (if I could afford to go to the dentist) than vote for the Liberal Party.
    Kato
    14th May 2014
    4:01pm
    You expect pork barrelling from all runners up to an election. but to say on more than one occasion trust us we are not increasing taxes, we are not touching pensions amongst others, and then to break that trust is a broken promise but is a complete and blatant lie, the sad thing is that they can stare down the camera and say we didn't say that we said this. and aw cmon people expect us to fudge a bit, well fudge a bit on your pension or welfare payment, I doubt they would look at it like that. what they have done is stolen from the poorest and rewarded the richest. I would not count on people forgetting by the time the next election comes around Tony, Joe and co.why because social media has you on record and will not let you forget. These politicians are a disgrace to the Australian way of life, a total embaressment. the soldiers men and women who sacrificed so much to make this a better country your legacy has been trashed by lying politicians meant to follow your example
    Kato
    14th May 2014
    4:03pm
    A gutless budget with no real vision. when you had the gastric band placed Joe it must have squeezed your testicles because you presented a budget without balls.
    A increase in the GST of 5%, make the States drop there illegal taxes recording fees stamp duties etc. just a five percent increase would have done more than what you delivered. but by deception you will make the states crawl to you to increase the GST and go to the next election blaming them and trying to make yourselves look like the goodguys. and by doing that you will have gotten what you wanted kick the poor down the rung even further
    Swinging voter
    15th May 2014
    12:04am
    Not only will there be an increase in gst, the rising fuel taxes, the co-payments for medical and medicines will remain forever (and increase, no government ever removed or decreased new taxes) and all the other imposts will remain in place. The $7 co-payment to fund medical research is untimely and has nothing to do with fixing the budget.They can fix the Rudd Gillard mess without bludgeoning us into financial misery. If they had to abuse us with a medical co-payment, implying that we are all hypochondriacs going to the quack for nothing, they should have made the first 10 visits co-payment free to encourage people to see to their symptoms. Go to an emergency dept. and be hit with doctor $7, x-ray $7, scan $7, 3-4 blood tests $21, ecg $7, better still don't go, stay home and die. All that medical research will be a terrible taxpayer funded waste because it will eventually keep people alive too long and that sure isn't government policy.
    Kato
    14th May 2014
    4:04pm
    By forcing the states to take control of Health and Education, one has to wonder why we need you federal pollies at all. Hand all control back to the States and let them control there own revenues. Then they can fund all there own projects
    Kato
    14th May 2014
    4:06pm
    Darn, Health and Education was in a mess the last time John, Joe and Tony were finished with it. might as well do it again.
    MICK
    14th May 2014
    5:53pm
    You have to stand back and look at how we are doing as a nation Kato:

    1. Close to the most taxed country in the world when you add in all taxes
    2. Selling or sold most of what is worth owning in this country other than the homes people live in and farming land which is now available for sale to foreign governments (derrrr!!!) with apparently 10% gone although governments refuse to supply the exact figures.
    3. Manufacturing continues to close the doors and we import goods...which have to be paid for....somehow.
    4. Even non manufacturing jobs sent offshore because it is cheaper.

    When you stand back it is clear that little is left. Both sides of politics have engaged in the 'sell' mentality. Whilst this works in the short term (it brings money in) it is a failure in the long term because once this money is spent then what then.

    So we are heading for the bottom. As I said we are now selling our farming land, the very thing which provides food. This is a fool's paradise and THE MEDIA TAKES NO INTEREST as though this were an inconsequential practice. It isn't. My prediction is that Australia will continue on and then start selling the mineral companies themselves and THEN THE END WILL ARRIVE. God help all of us as anybody with two razoos will then be canabalised to get money. It will not be pretty and ignore the call if you wish but it is coming. I'd give it 20-30 years. Good luck gen Y. Thank us apathetic boomers for caring more about ourselves than about our children and their children.
    Kato
    14th May 2014
    8:25pm
    Yes Mick, I fear you are right. For me' no problems, as I don't think the old bod, has twenty years left in it. but hurt for our youth, and my younger children.
    Blossom
    14th May 2014
    9:45pm
    Child care used to be means tested. It was that If you were studying to return to the workforce because have a baby and are left alone you did get a higher rebate.
    Blossom
    14th May 2014
    10:01pm
    Re the fuel excise that means that the cost of transporting groceries will also increase so expect your grocery bill to increase. Last time the transport industry was given an increase in rebate the got a increase in other charges so they ended up worse off not better. Diesel costs less to refine so why is it more expensive even with the rebate they are credited later. Large truck motors are not built to take other fuel. The company I worked for paid a fortune to have one converted to Natural Gas - not a viable decision - also there are very few outlets in Adelaide- in fact back then there was only one. The truck could only be used for metro or very short out of town trips as consumption wise it was a fuel guzzler.
    Blossom
    14th May 2014
    10:33pm
    On another site I read that the Govt. has cut funds to Animal Welfare.
    Maybe they can support Royal Society for the Blind Guide Dogs for the Blind Section who train dogs free of charge to Legally Blind people. The Govt gives them no support at all. They have corporate assistance in the form of food, vets, and other essential equipment for the dogs. They also rely on donations from the general public. Apart from the first few weeks, people volunteer as Puppy Educators and train the pups at their home for approx 12 months. Prior to going to Puppy Educators the puppies are trained to do a "wee" on command. The rest of the training such as sit, drop, sit and wait at kerbs etc are volunteers during that time. They have to take them for long walks every day. I had neighbours who now have their second puppy so I have learnt some of the training methods. With breeding they ensure that there is no inter-breeding. One female from Adelaide was sent to Brisbane and mated. All dogs are checked to make sure there is no risk of hip dysplasia which can be genetic.
    Blossom
    14th May 2014
    10:47pm
    I don't know whether or not the system has changed but a neighbour of mine had to retire early because of a bad stress fracture in his spine. He went onto a Disability Support Pension (the specialist told him he couldn't keep working),which is higher than Age Pension. When he reached Age Pension Age his pension was changed to Age Pension. Their income dropped quite a bit and by then his need for medication increased which meant more trips to the Dr. sometimes just to get scripts. Some Drs. don't bulk bill Pensioners and you can have a reasonable gap to pay every time you have to go. Now there is an additional $7.00 per visit.
    Some patients will wait too long and end up in a public hospital which will cost the Govt. even more. People already avoid going to Emergency Depts of Private Hospitals in SA. If you are a pensioner you are charged $220.00 which you can't claim from Medicare or Private Health Insurance at all. If you aren't a pensioner it is $280.00 at one particular hospital. I don't know what the other Private Hospitals charge. One of them asks you to pay up front even if you go in by Ambulance. They ask for cash or credit card, often before you even get to the Emergency Dept.
    Wstaton
    14th May 2014
    11:02pm
    America here we come!!!!!!
    Koala
    15th May 2014
    4:59pm
    Nah - just move across the ditch to Kiwiland
    Koala
    15th May 2014
    4:58pm
    Hockey ‘astounded’ at GP fee fury
    Australian Treasurer Joe Hockey Delivers Post-Budget Address STOP moaning about the extra $7 fee every time you see the doctor — it’s less than a handful of ciggies or a couple of beers, says Joe Hockey

    Too right Joe
    niemakawa
    15th May 2014
    6:57pm
    A budget for the future. Australia is living above its means. Most of the aspects that may affect pensioners do not lick in immediately. At least everyone will be giving a helping hand to repair all the damage left by the previous incompetent government. Mr Abbott has stated that he will go to the polls if the measures are derailed by the senate. He will win by even a greater majority than in 2013.
    Muffy's Mum
    15th May 2014
    11:25pm
    Dear God, Niemakawa, what planet are you living on? Show me a pensioner who's living beyond their means, and I'll show you an honest politician who's never told a lie. Most pensioners struggle to cover even the basics, never mind living beyond their means. Easy to blame the previous government, but nothing changes the fact that Tony Abbott is a liar. You think he'll win another election? Not after this Budget from Hell, put together by Phoney Tony and his mate Jackass Joe.
    niemakawa
    15th May 2014
    7:00pm
    A step forward.
    Muffy's Mum
    15th May 2014
    11:28pm
    A step forward for big business and wealthy people, while they're stepping over and on all the struggling masses. Yep, they're wiping their feet on us, as they gaily step forward, laughing all the way to the bank.
    DogLover
    15th May 2014
    10:54pm
    So Warren Truss says that people, when they retire,(who have worked and paid tax for many years) should not take a cruise or overseas holiday and use that money instead of taking the pension. Lucky politicians-they can afford these holiday luxuries whenever they want! And Joe Hockey suggests giving up smoking and drinking beer to afford going to a Doctor. But what about people who do not smoke or drink alcohol who need to find the extra money? The list of advisory committees that are being axed means that the aged and animal welfare, as well as others, will suffer.

    16th May 2014
    10:55am
    We have the Labor party which stands for wicked things like same sex marriage and yet opposes welfare cuts. We have the Liberal party which opposes wicked things yet cuts welfare. The two parties need to morph together, then there will be no wicked things made legal and no cuts to welfare.
    CindyLou
    16th May 2014
    8:27pm
    With the deepest respect I have to state that i believe your use of the language ''wicked things like same sex marriage' is Inappripriate and offensive. Two people, of the same sex in a relationship may annoy others etc., however these folk who are in such relationships are not in a wicked relationship. Rather it is their own perinal chose.
    What I see as wicked is a category of low lifes which includes; murderers, rapists, domestic vice perpetrators, child abusers, terrorist etc.

    I have met many same sex couples who are kind, generous and their relationships are loving. So what if same sex couples choose to have a piece of paper cementing their relationship...big deal...I am not mean spirited to criticize others. It's not Christian nor is it nice to perpetrate hateful comments.
    niemakawa
    16th May 2014
    8:36pm
    Cindy Lou. Personally I respect the choices of how people live. What I do not accept is that same sex couples always expect special treatment. Gays and Lesbians forever seeking rights over and above those given to hetero-sexual couples. It seems they must feel uncomfortable with their own lifestyle, always seeking recognition. They need to just get on with life as they choose, without all the dramatics.
    Muffy's Mum
    16th May 2014
    9:25pm
    Niemakawa, the vast majority of same-sex couples do not seek special treatment over & above that given to heterosexual couples. They seek some type of equality in the way they are treated, rather than being treated like second-class citizens. The vast majority are supremely comfortable with their own lifestyles and sexuality, and far from seeking recognition, they seek to be able to live their lives in relative anonymity, as many heterosexuals do. The dramatics are generally the making of those people who denigrate anyone who is not heterosexual.
    niemakawa
    16th May 2014
    9:35pm
    Muffy's Mum. So why are they always bringing attention to themselves? It is reasonable that some people find homosexuality abhorrent and unnatural . These these people also have a right to their opinion. But homosexuals will not accept this and go on and on wanting recognition by everyone. Not going to happen so best they keep quiet and get on with their lives and acknowledge that their lifestyle is not going to be acceptable to all.
    Muffy's Mum
    16th May 2014
    10:03pm
    Niemakawa - So how would you support your assertion that homosexuals are "always bringing attention to themselves"? Is this based on their once-a-year "Mardi Gras/Gay Pride" march? The vast majority of homosexuals do not want nor expect approval of their lifestyle by those people who deem "homosexuality abhorrent and unnatural". They recognize that all people have a right to their own opinion. What they would like is for the people who may not agree with or approve of homosexuality to also recognize that homosexuals also have a right to their opinions and lifestyle, and should be allowed to "get on with their lives" without constantly being harassed, demeaned and treated like lepers. Wanting recognition for their right to "live and let live" is not the same as wanting approval of their lifestyle.
    niemakawa
    16th May 2014
    10:12pm
    Well I would suggest that the vast "majority" of homosexuals target those clubs and magazines that are specifically designed for the "gay" market and ask them not to promote the lifestyle of homosexuals. Apparently to most homosexuals it is natural so no need for such publications. That is where the problem lies.
    Muffy's Mum
    16th May 2014
    10:42pm
    So it's not o.k. to have magazines aimed at homosexuals, and clubs where they can go to meet friends with similar interests, but it is o.k. to have magazines aimed at heterosexuals (think "Playboy", etc), and strip joints that are patronized by "normal" men? Ah Niemakawa, stop now, before you really shoot yourself in the foot, and destroy your own argument, without any help from me. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. Although you'll probably disagree with that too.
    Anonymous
    17th May 2014
    10:08am
    Sodomites, Katamites, Lesbians.....all such practices are wicked, indeed...those who do such things do not inherit the kingdom of God.
    Anonymous
    17th May 2014
    10:11am
    'Men play the part of women, and women that of men, contrary to nature. Women are at once both wives and husbands......O miserable spectacle! Horrible conduct' ...Clement of Alexandria c. 195............NOTHING has changed
    Muffy's Mum
    17th May 2014
    5:46pm
    Ah PIXAPD, I wondered how long it would be before someone so kindly quoted the Bible, to show us the error of our ways. And if our politicians are going to enter the kingdom of God, then I sure as hell don't want to be there with them. Because they've done a sterling job of stuffing up this country, and stomping on the battlers who live here, and they'd likely do the same thing in Heaven.
    Ok
    16th May 2014
    12:04pm
    Do we really want our working children to pay back all the money wasted by the two chief lunatics of Australia, I mean Kevin Rudd and his boss Bob Brown? Common sense has to return and it may hurt all of us. We let the drongos rule to long!
    CindyLou
    16th May 2014
    8:41pm
    Agree, a stitch in time saves nine.
    We have a great country, even our very poor are better off than many unfortunate people overseas.
    DogLover
    16th May 2014
    8:39pm
    Why is no-one mentioning the removal of benefits, in the way of cheaper prices for utilities and transport and other items, pensioners currently receive using their Pension Concession Card? The removal of these cheaper prices will be harmful to lots of pensioners.
    Kato
    18th May 2014
    5:43pm
    When I was young we were always told strong leaders lead by example, I do not see any of that in this Fudget.no courage, no vision, if they or anyone else thinks that kicking the poor and the young down so that they stay down, is any of those has an identity crisis which requires professional help. The treasurer and his finance minister need to tell the Australian people how much it costs to fund every politician and there high amount of staffers, in Canberra, every meal, every allowance , every cup of coffee, every freebee, each and every area where there is waste, remember that the costs are still there even when they are not. Identify how many politicians and staffers are just making up numbers and then explain to them that there age of entitlement is over, as for them stating that the states are there own sovereign Governments? if they believe that for one moment in a honest appraisal, Then the States should control there own revenue, thus the federal Gov't is superfluous to the Taxpayers and people of Australia. it is a dinosaur being protected by the greedy for there own selfish interests. Tony Abbott saying that the fuel excise affects politicians is an insult to every Australian, politicians get driven and flown everywhere at taxpayers expense. Stop the overseas rorts to study rail, roads etc, this has been going on since federation and is a blatant drain and rort on the taxpaying public, Prime minister Mr Hockey and co, we have technology use it, as you are saying to our young, learn and earn, do the same you should be using technology to see those things without having to leave the country, there is the internet once you politicians stop holding up the progress of it. we now have video conferencing in case you haven't learn that yet. tell us how many politicians you have at the federal level that is duplicated at the state level and the cost of that to the taxpayer and reduce it. Don't keep on telling us to tighten our belts if you can't do it yourself, above all step up and stop telling lies.
    Muffy's Mum
    18th May 2014
    6:28pm
    Couldn't agree more, Kato. When the politicians no longer go by the old adage "Do as I say, not as I do", then and only then will they earn a modicum of respect from the masses they are meant to represent.
    Kato
    18th May 2014
    6:02pm
    We are happy to talk about different details with minor parties and independents in the Senate but they've got to accept that we are the government.
    Rhodes scholar this guy? not in the senate Tony. why do you think that. call an early election and you will find that you have less seats all round. you know that, and it is why you wont do it.
    Kato
    18th May 2014
    8:49pm
    I pay $4200 pa for private health, I have to have top cover for my wife who has multiple illnesses, I pay the medicare levy,thus nearly six grand pa,yet if I have a MRI ,scan or ultrasound, a injection for an old back injury only part of this is covered by Medicare, the Private provider covers none of it. why because it is counted as non hostpital visit. Ask the private provider and they tell you are covered up to the medicare level? why is this we should be given the choice to pay the medicare levy or a bit extra for Private health care not both, in that argument both Hockey, Corman and all there cronies lose as I pay a co payment everytime I see some one.
    Jurassicgeek
    27th May 2014
    2:22pm
    they should go after Gina..she is raking it in at the expense of aussie workers....
    Bushlady
    21st Jun 2014
    2:04pm
    I am so upset with the discontinuation,( Cessation of the Seniors Supplement after June payment this year (July 1) This is a great concern to me. I now live in a shed (Tin) No heating or conditioning, I burn candles , instead of having lights, I have a hot water system, which chews up the power. I can't afford power really, but, what can I do?., . I have no "No big bank account", Like a lot of pensioner, that don't really need the payments.. Please , please don't cut the Supplement ..I am doing it very hard!












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