Nothing new for pensioners

Those struggling to survive on an Age Pension will have to do so for a little longer.

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It seems that those struggling to survive on an Age Pension will have to do so for a little longer. As expected, there are no additional payments or increases available for Age Pension recipients. However, much fanfare has been made of the Clean Energy Household Assistance package which will be paid from this month. An increase of $388 per annum will be paid to those on an Age Pension, Disability Support pension recipients and self-funded retirees who hold a Commonwealth Seniors Health Card. But let’s not forget that this is being introduced to cover the increased household costs resulting from the implementation of a price on carbon pollution. Find out more about Clean Energy Household Assistance.





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    MargretaZ
    9th May 2012
    2:00pm
    and the carers lose out too! No increase and a possible decline in the standard of living for many pensioners!
    Sconny
    9th May 2012
    5:00pm
    The Gillard government has missed a great opportunity to regain a little credibility with older Australians. There is absolutely nothing of any substance for any Australian Pensioners/Seniors in this latest budget. As a labour supporter all of my life I am in despair at the decline of a once great working class party. I shall still continue to support Labour because to vote for one of the other minor parties is a vote for the chaos which we are currently seeing. I shudder to think however what chaos would arise from returning a Coalition government headed by a Clown with absolutely no empathy for ordinary working class Australians.
    workingoldie
    10th May 2012
    8:19am
    Just what "empathy" has been shown by this government? And what is an "ordinary working class" Australian? Families with kids are being given a boost which will also help the dole bludgers and those on welfare who could work but don't . It would have been nice to at least see carers get something - they save the government heaps and really struggle.
    cat
    10th May 2012
    5:00pm
    i fully agree with you on all you have said
    i still vote labour even though i some times wonder why, but then think there isnt anyone better to vote for anyway .
    and yes i know i spelt labour the old way ....i am NOT American and do not see why we should follow them in our way of spelling or anything else
    Nan Norma
    4th Jul 2012
    5:06pm
    Aren't many, if not most,carers on pensions anyway..
    Dotty
    9th May 2012
    7:03pm
    Yes it seems like we are a forgotten lot us aged pensioners in this Budget!
    Like you Scotty I have been a labour voter all my life and any alternative is not even a thought !
    But it would have been nice to get at least some recognition in this budget!
    Dotty.
    workingoldie
    10th May 2012
    1:49pm
    This said it all "any alternative is not given a thought" If you don't think then you have only yourselves to blame for being offered nothing by this or any other government. It is time all those on a limited income stood up to be counted and I for one, hope to do so now that I have finally retired from work but not from living.
    kushka
    9th May 2012
    9:10pm
    having developed a love of opp shopping for clothes ,shoes ,and a frugal shopper in the supermarket buying only when on special and in quantities to last quite some time ,I wonder looking at some of the shopping trollies if some people are a little to set in their ways ,feeling it beneath them to buy day old bread ,cakes ,cheaper butter spreads ,jams ect ect ,so since I always loved getting a bargain and done so for the 52 years I was married ,now on my own since my treasure passed away ,I find I manage just fine ,not being a big eater helps and refusing to buy meat at todays prices ,getting protein from Yoghurt marked down of course ,I feel lucky I never had a chip on my shoulder that only the best brands were acceptable ,yes I know some who really feel buying cake or day old bread requires an explanation at the checkout its only for the possums ,much to my amusement ,but its a shame ,there is nothing wrong with these marked down products ,I have no need for false pride ,and can save from my pension ,why not try it ,Kushka
    Sconny
    9th May 2012
    9:22pm
    Kushka I am unsure if your comments were made 'tongue in cheek' but if you can save anything except maybe the odd dollar AND pay rent from your pension then I will take lessons from you AND in any event WHY SHOULD we just exist on stale bread and out of date commodities? Sconny
    Pass the Ductape
    10th May 2012
    8:07am
    A little harsh with this comment Sconny!
    I don't think Kushka's comments were meant as tongue in cheek, but never-the-less the aged pension was only ever introduced to help those of us who were not able through various means, to end our working lives with a sufficient nest egg to see us through until the end of our days. It is designed only to help supply food, clothing and shelter - not provide funds enough to accommodate world trips etc.
    We could ague all we like about how each of us might have arrived in a position that requires us to rely on the aged pension and some will manage quite well on the pension - possibly because they are better money managers or are particularly frugal like Kushka - and others will not.
    Each circumstance will be different, but overall, when you consider the additional benefits that aged pensioners enjoy, (medicinal being just one of them) coupled with an automatic rise in the pension rate at various times through the year which is indexed to the cost of living, then I feel we shouldn't complain too much.
    cat
    10th May 2012
    5:04pm
    we do have to live a little Krushka, and not just exist.....................
    i dont smoke or drink alchohol, or go out , but do like to garden and do my craft, there has to be something to look forward to each day
    workingoldie
    9th May 2012
    9:25pm
    I'm with you Kushka - I love looking for the bargains and,as a result,can afford to buy a few little treats for myself as well. However I am not at all impressed with the budget or the present government. I have not been a one eyed party supporter but look at what is offered and try to assess on merit - not just because they are a member of one party or the other.Labour have done next to nothing for the pensioners but you still vote for them "because you have done it all your life"Sticking to a vote for labour or liberal helps no-one - this government did not get in on merit but by Greens backing it and they have - or had -the power ,not labour. Now a lot of rats are deserting a sinking ship - be interesting to see what happens before the end of the year.
    kushka
    9th May 2012
    11:01pm
    Sconny,have you ever actually had a feel of day old bread ?it isnt stale at all ,if yu buy a fresh loaf do you throw it out next day , no it's still fresh ,I freeze my day old bread in bags 4slices at a time next time in a supermarket have a wee feel of the trolley bread,you may change your mind ,Kushka
    workingoldie
    10th May 2012
    8:15am
    Nor does it have to be day old - bread and milk are both very cheap now. A "Use by " date is not an indication of inedible - it simply protects the manufacturers from a lot of greedy people who sue at the drop of a hat over anything. Most stuff will last for long after . Start cooking - a chicken can be as low as $5 ,casserole beef same. I can get a meat meal for $1 any time by "existing" on the goods you turn your nose up at and also buy the odd steak or lamb roast.
    buby
    10th May 2012
    9:09am
    really we are being taken care of, the Ndis, is being put into place, which takes care of the disabled which we all will become in due course i'm sure. Obviously you have not been reading about it.
    and if your NOT a smoker, or a drinker you can survive nicely on the pension, and if you own your own home unlike me, then you are luckier still......the lazy bums on centerlink, could be helped along to get a job i'm sure, some mothers, don't need a cut while the children are still young i think thats a bit harsh?
    but for a change i'm not crumbling. and i'm disabled and i manage to save....
    I grow a few veg, its NOT hard....LEarn something new besides the computer. you'd be surprised how you can save yourself money?? well done kuska.
    ronleo
    10th May 2012
    8:47am
    i'm a pensioner and I work in aged care ,as I could not survive on pension alone I pay rent ,and with the cost of electricity I just cannot afford to retire completely. and I can not wait for the day we get rid of labour .
    Jennome
    10th May 2012
    11:19am
    Do you seriously think you'd be better off under Abbott & Co? Get real.
    starbright
    10th May 2012
    10:41am
    You will get the abbott moron soon enough
    Misterpeter
    10th May 2012
    10:48am
    We are pensioners, never been unemployed, could not afford insurance and lost the lot in the cyclone, but are very happy to be alive, we now rent a house cannot afford to keep our block [rates etc] so had to let it go for food and living money, now we get enough to servive only, we have the chance through our grandchild working for a airline to go to visit family in Europe on a return plane after the Olympics with a trip back on the pre Christmas flights,
    I think after 60 years in the workforce we should be entitled to a free offered holiday yet we still cannot afford it, we must sit at home and just look at each other, and wonder if we will ever see our grandchildren, we have always voted Labour until the last Qld election The time has come BYE BYE Julia we need to keep active and not always ill through not eating properly
    Sconny
    10th May 2012
    11:51am
    2 years into a Lib/Nat buffoon govt I'm longing to hear the comments of those willing to throw away Julia (or Kevin) & the only party that really cares. As for me well I'm a single rent paying age pensioner - worked all my life up to retirement including 12 years in the service of my country. No matter how many of you pooh pooh and put down you won't convince me that I only have the right to exist not to live a modestly comfortable and stress free life
    cat
    10th May 2012
    5:07pm
    good on you, Sconny
    i agree
    MargretaZ
    12th May 2012
    12:52pm
    I'm with you! I abhor Abbott and his team because all they do is hand out jibes and negative nonsense! Since when do we care if they behave badly in another job, or aren't planning to have another baby just to get a bonus!
    byebyebirdie
    20th May 2012
    4:16pm
    Oh boo hoo. What a load of wingeing. My mother his 86 and due to living frugally and my father working hard, they managed to bring 6 of us up successfully and taught us to manage our money in our working years so we do not have to depend on a pension as well. She still pays tax for you people to spend and gets no concessions either. Admittedly their money was made during mostly Liberal years... tell me which Labor governments have left a state or our nation in a better way financially than when they came to office... I can't hear you. No, all they know is to spend and they teach those depending on government payments to do the same obviously. Be thankful you live in Australia as the pension here is much better than any alternatives. I guess if you don't prepare enough for the future you need to suck it up and live within your means in retirement.
    tomtom
    28th May 2012
    9:47am
    Good God,has this paper been taken over by no brain Laborites? has age faded your brains - seriously,what has Labor done that is REALLY good - they change PM's like I do underclothes - seriously,I think Sconny is a paid S... Stirrer for the Labor party.People,think what you had,now look what Gillard is giving - NOTHING.
    Thai Traveller
    10th May 2012
    1:06pm
    Good on yer Kushka! When I was living on the Gold Coast, I shopped at a wholesale butchers and grocers. Meat had a great discount on Mondays and Tuesdays for pensioners, cheese was well discounted too, and fresh fruit and veg from mainly local growers.

    Bread is meant to age a day before eating, and I then freeze it and take out what I need.
    workingoldie
    10th May 2012
    1:22pm
    If they "cared" when they have been able to get into power we would all be a lot better off by now. I will be more than happy not to have to listen to Julia again. Until the end of May I am a registered Div 1 nurse and have been working until last October - 56 years in the workforce. I only did one day a week otherwise I was working for almost nothing after tax and reduced pension,so I did it for love,not money. I am also single and pay rent and I can do more than "exist" on the pension. Stop whinging and look around you - there are thousands out there whose shoes you would not want to have to walk in .If you are so unhappy about it do something constructive - maybe contact your MP - they will need all the help they can get to be re-elected.
    philgilbert
    10th May 2012
    4:13pm
    if all the age pensioners die , there would be more ways for the government to waste the money we old age pensioners pay there wages with , They do not have to worry about there pensions ---- maybe they should.
    MargretaZ
    12th May 2012
    12:55pm
    Isn't the usual rhetoric that we are an aging population? When we go, the next wave of older Aussies arrive! It will never be over! I think that Politicians should live in the real world, not just say they stand up for their local people. They have no B;;;; idea!
    Sconny
    10th May 2012
    6:58pm
    This for 'notworkinganymoreoldie'...You've now fired a couple of salvos seemingly in my direction...now its MY shot....I remind you that this is a forum for people to express their comments/frustrations....it AINT AS YOU STATE...WHINGEING...you keep buying your 'past use by date commodities' pal but don't invite this whinger for dinner at your place...as a 'nurse' you should know better
    workingoldie
    10th May 2012
    7:31pm
    Find it interesting that you manage to ignore any suggestion of you actually doing something about it instead of just expressing your frustration/making comments. No-one ever gets sick eating at my place but heaven help me if my guests were like you - positive thinking is far better than moaning - and you ARE doing that - in spades
    marg5au
    10th May 2012
    8:46pm
    Most aged pensioners did not grow up in a throw away society,we had to budget from a young age what with depression, WW2, rations and the like, but we were quite happy and learn to live on whatever we had, also to share with those who had less than we did,as long as you handle your money with care, you can be thankful for what you have, and make ends meet.There are a lot of things that are not easy, like waiting for hospital care, but again bulk billing can be had and that is a blessing, along with all the other discounts we get,. OK. holidays and some other things that we would love to have maybe out of our reach, but the more we feel very badly done by the faster we will feel old.
    workingoldie
    10th May 2012
    8:55pm
    Very well said - sick of hearing those they interview on TV saying they can't afford meat. Our generation were taught well but a lot of them seem to have forgotten how to live simply and enjoy life
    kushka
    10th May 2012
    10:16pm
    workingoldie we are obviously on the same page and a few others I am happy to see ,some people will never see we are not deprived of anything because we are carefull and we do have money for treats ,it is sad some have such a closed mind and seem bitter with their percieved depravation oh well at least some of us are happy and grateful with what we have ,we are the lucky ones willing to open our minds and help ourselves Kushka
    gonebush
    11th May 2012
    8:45am
    Good to see like me those who can manage on the pension,l live alone with a little dog,also rent ,dont drink,smoke,and l find no trouble with living on the pension ,have a car and find l dont use the car a great deal but its ready to go ,Yes it ok when we get our little pension adjustments these help also ,l get rent assistance l aso found that if you have a bread maker one can produce a fresh loaf for approx $1.70 and yes one can get a loaf of bread for one dollar but really its like a piece of foam anyway
    workingoldie
    11th May 2012
    2:37pm
    Thank goodness there are some of us with our heads screwed on the right way - perhaps we should all start up a U3A course on "how to live on the pension and still enjoy life." Failing that the ones who find it so hard should join Cath Armstrongs "Cheapskates Club" and get the daily newsletters with hints and tips to save money - they are FREE folks - just what you are asking for! I too have a dog to care for,don't smke but do have a couple of glasses of wine every night . Agree with you on the cheap bread but I do not eat a lot and buy when the good ones are on special.
    kushka
    11th May 2012
    2:27pm
    gonebush where are you going to plug it ,couldnt resist that ,sorry Kushka
    kushka
    11th May 2012
    2:27pm
    gonebush where are you going to plug it ,couldnt resist that ,sorry Kushka
    Misterpeter
    11th May 2012
    4:21pm
    Gonebush We see you do not use the car how do you shop do you "bush it in Ipswich" so you have shops nearby our local shop is 220klms each way and petrol at anything from 1.99 to 2.49 we would love to see some transport
    kushka
    11th May 2012
    4:57pm
    Dont know if I am Allowed to change the subject ,my problem is not how to manage money ,but how to cope when your husband of 52 years passes away ,does one ever get over it and move on ?not being a joiner of groups or going to pubs ,am I stuck trying to get through each day reading which I cant concentrate on anyway ,or watching TV which is watching other people act out other peoples lives on a screen which is soul destroying ,even my love of my garden has gone ,propergating cuttings of roses and plants of all kinds gave me great satisfaction while my treasure was alive ,giving them to friends when they were in bloom was great ,now I feel my life is over ,it's been 2 years now and I feel lost absolutely lost ,Kushka
    workingoldie
    11th May 2012
    5:59pm
    Would love to meet you Kushka but don't know which state you are in or how we can get in contact without putting an email on here. I am in Vic and know there are groups out there for widows and widowers. I have been on my own for nearly 30 years - from choice now as I met so many deadbeats out there.You never get over it and should not feel you have to - it gets easier but everyone is different.Do I gather that you do not have family / I have friends who joined the sort of group I am talking of. Another one is in Legacy and enjoys it - theatre outings are a good way to start,or going to the movies with a group. The idea of Senior Citzs has always left me cold but htere are alternatives. Ask the editor if you can get my email from them - I most certainly give permission for them to pass it on.
    kushka
    11th May 2012
    7:20pm
    workingoldie thank you for your response ,will ask my Son on Sunday to find how I can get your Email address ,dont know my way around computers very well Kushka
    Sandi (SA)
    12th May 2012
    12:45pm
    Kushka, get your son to join you to Your Life Choices and then working oldie can send you a personal message with her email address as she is a registered member.

    Once you are a member (it costs you nothing) your name will appear on posts in blue like working oldie's name, then all she has to do is click on your name and she will be able to send you a personal, private message
    MargretaZ
    12th May 2012
    1:09pm
    Hi everyone! Listen, I'm not whingeing ????? I just want to know how after budgeting, and being extra careful about any spending, I'm supposed to afford insurance for the contents and car, rego, tyres etc, hydrotherapy, medication and a hobby! I'm frugal, I cook my own meals, but refuse to live on bread and milk alone. My husband is disabled and diabetic. Our diet means he can remain relatively healthy. We go to the pool twice a week for therapy, and go to the beach for walks. We have debts from moving interstate, a family in Europe, and skype. This is our life! I love it, but would like a little recognition for looking after hubby and saving the govt thousands a month by doing so. Is that too much to ask? Should I have taxed the system by staying at work and divorcing him so the system would look after him instead? I made a choice, when I got married. Remember"for better or worse, in sickness and in health'"? I don't think Im unreasonable. I worked for a living for 40 years, and paid taxes.
    workingoldie
    12th May 2012
    6:33pm
    For that yes- I fully agree that you should get more for all the money you save the government. How the hell we get them to listen I don't know - really think there should be a Seniors party and try to get into government ourselves.
    Thai Traveller
    12th May 2012
    2:11pm
    can't you get Carer's allowance? I did when I was on the pension. It's $50 a week, and it helped. Family member, non-family. it's available.
    MargretaZ
    14th May 2012
    11:05am
    I do get that but as I say it doesn't stretch it that much. Hubby's diet has to include 4 veg and 2 fruit every day. He also has to have protein and fibre. Sometimes I think I'm a dietician, cook, carer and anything else that fits the bill.
    Misterpeter
    12th May 2012
    6:46pm
    There is a group now trying to form a Australian Grey Party Maybe if it gets off the ground it could give us some voice in government
    workingoldie
    13th May 2012
    7:06am
    Haven't heard of this one - maybe the media and government trying to keep it quiet? Any idea how you get in touch with the organisers ? I am in Victoria.
    tomtom
    28th May 2012
    9:59am
    To all of you wanting to know about the new grey party,you can e-mail,australiangreyparty@hotmail.com.The party is in its infancy,but support and assistance is required - PLEASE support

    13th May 2012
    4:29am
    Pensioners will never be recognised until they are seen to change their vote at the ballot box. There are an average of more than 20,000 seniors in every federal electorate in Australia. If just 1,500 Labor voters in each Labor electorate, were to write to their sitting member & tell him/her that they intend to vote Liberal at the next poll & send a copy of the email to the opposition contender, it would result in the loss of 15 seats & believe me, they would both listen.
    workingoldie
    13th May 2012
    7:12am
    And shout louder instead of just sitting around talking about it to each other. Glad someone is talking sense instead of the "I always vote Labourites" Seems there are a few out there who are trying to do something if you read Misterpeter above. After the farce of Greens having power this time we would only need a couple of members to get in and sway the vote !
    alamoe417
    16th May 2012
    5:25pm
    I personally think Joe Hocking would go well. I like the way he thinks, more sincere, and if he took over from Tony Abbott, Im sure things would get better, instead of going worse. The Grey Party are forming and if you wish to have your say, contact Debbie McTaggart, and she will give you the details of how to contact.
    workingoldie
    16th May 2012
    6:44pm
    How do I get in contact with her ? I am in Victoria. Thanks
    normie 39
    16th May 2012
    7:10pm
    After viewing most of the comments and being a 73 year old male pensioner I do agree that once retired and having to fend for ourselves without a fortnightly or monthly pay, the Centrelink payment can be daunting.

    In my case I had a messy divorce where the female retained a much bigger proportion of the proceeds as she was able to obtain a percentage of my Superannuation even though I was still working.

    When the dust settled, and an early retirement at age 62 made me give up work I had enough to buy outright a relocatable home in a great village.

    My rent is subsidised by Centrelink and I live on my own. I have learnt to cook and that is the big plus as I could not afford to eat out every night at clubs...
    etc.
    I check out the weekly supermarket specials via their catalogues, and they are all available on the net.

    Aldi saves me some dollars each week week with Cereal, Crumpets and fruit and vegetables.

    Re having a break/holiday. Any one reading this are on the net and it's possible to look up the specials which are always on offer for a one night overnight stay within range of the NSW Railways destinations.
    I have been to Grafton on several occasions and the Railway benefit will take you to Yamba or Iluka or even Byron Bay if you book your one or two day special accommodation.

    So learn to think outside the square while keeping body and soul together and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
    I know this won't apply to every one, but at least give it a try.

    Normie 39
    Thai Traveller
    16th May 2012
    7:55pm
    hi Normie.

    interesting letter. Could you e-mail me at: masuk39...at...gmail.com?
    MargretaZ
    17th May 2012
    11:44am
    I think I agree for the most part, but there are times when an extra few bucks can make a difference. I work in a strict budget and count on myself and my husband, not on handouts. We struggle because the cost of therapy is very high, and there are no programs to help. I have spoken to and emailed my local member. He called me, and said he will look into the issue as many older Australians are in need of therapy. This is a big issue in my book. If we look after ourselves better and get the right nutrition, aren't we less likely to tax the health system? People who live on their own are lucky in my book. I have the responsibility of another person's care and well-being to consider, 24 hours and 7 days a week. I wouldn't change a thing, but I would like for the govt to show some minor appreciation for the effort, time and money I save them. I really don't think everyone understands that carers are people too! Unless you do it, or have done it, you probably don't realise that your time is not your own.
    Grateful
    17th May 2012
    3:45pm
    When Johnny Howard introduced the GST in 2000, after vowing that his government never would in the previous election(!!!)(They all lie) pensioners were granted a 2% increase in the pension to "compensate" for the extra costs of the GST (10% tax on nearly everything).
    With the single pensioners' rate now $755 p.f., or, $19,630 p.a., that 2% "compensation" represents around $392 p.a.
    Does anyone believe that single pensioners only spend $3,920 p.a. on items that attract the GST? (10% of $3,920 = $392).
    I would think much more like $15,000 p.a., which SHOULD provide a $1,500 p.a. GST "compensation" in the single rate pension. In other words, single pensioners who have normal basic expenditure, are now around $1,100 p.a. worse off now than they were in 2000, JUST FROM the "compensation" that the experts considered was necessary with the introduction of the GST!!
    Australian pensioners really are fortunate compared to very many others, but, we certainly are entitled to a much fairer go and I reckon that if we all continue to hound our P.M., next year's Budget will be an ideal opportunity before the next election to show her true colours. People power DOES WORK!!
    I won't get involved in a political argument, but, in all of my years, I have NEVER seen a Liberal government give pensioners anything but token consideration and with the "excuse" that "we will have to cut expenditure" and especially if they introduce that 6 months paid maternity leave, you can bet that it will be years before we get anything other than the current arrangement (if we are lucky) if the Coalition is elected and thus exponentially exacerbate our current plight.
    byebyebirdie
    20th May 2012
    5:34pm
    The GST replaced a swathe of sales taxes and reduced the price of items, some of which had exhorbitant sales taxes. Wait until the carbon tax comes in!!
    bearbin
    18th May 2012
    5:56am
    Getting used to living alone is harder than one thinks, throw in becoming an "Aged Pensioner" for the first time is daunting. Neither is ideal. losing the love of your life is the worst scenario of all. Pensions do limit ones spending, but at the same time, I doscovered to my surprise, that my driving license is free to renew. My medicines are only $5.80 each scripts. WOW!
    workingoldie
    18th May 2012
    8:15am
    Only free in some states - in Vic it is full price. Same with a lot of other things - travel tickets vary also.and NT were getting a power supplement for 12 months of the year ,not 6 as here. Depends on it being a Federal or State charge. Come on Victorians - lobby for all charges being the same Australia wide - at the lowest rate presently charged by other states !!!
    doclisa
    18th May 2012
    3:25pm
    do you realise that in real terms the price of electricity has gone down over time and not up. We simply use more. Our homes are bigger, we have more appliances, and they are on standby all the time. Check what you use.
    plus the rise of the tax free threshold from $6,000 to $18,200 will make a huge difference to all of these people including low income earners and people higher up the scale of earnings.
    workingoldie
    18th May 2012
    4:17pm
    My power bills have been less than the previous 12 months for at least two years now. I do the same as when we were all asked to save water - do not use what you do not need. Turn off all appliances not in use as far as possible. Turn on the large ones like dishwasher and washing machine when it is off peak power and only do full loads - for a single person it cuts use dramatically. For heating - put more clothes on and keep moving -the excercise will benefit you in many ways. The state govt also gave 2 power surge switches that turn off the TV via the remote or automatically if I fall asleep while watching it.
    MAC22
    22nd May 2012
    7:04am
    If Pensioners want a voice here in Australia, there is an organisation that we can use. It is Australia wide and membership is $30 per year.
    There is a wealth of information with this organisation with one in every state. Unfortunately I had not realised such an organisation exited and is a mouth piece for seniors.
    Website is www.cotamembership.org.au and there is an office in every state. Check it out.
    Reppie
    22nd May 2012
    11:46am
    Am I mistaken? Does anybody else hear what I hear when the current ads are on re the carbon tax comp. for pensioners? That we no longer get it after eary 2014? Listen carefully to the ad when it is on next. I have a feeling we will be thrown in at the deep end come early 2014 with no help any longer. Good luck to all with this one!
    Misterpeter
    22nd May 2012
    12:22pm
    Reppie What do you expect of cause it will end
    Reppie
    22nd May 2012
    12:24pm
    well how do we manage without the help, having got use to it - almost. When is the next election? Bring it on!!
    carly
    23rd May 2012
    1:51pm
    why are some people so blind the pm is only looking after herself . now i look back the howard goverment was no so bad they went to an election on the GTS and they won, paid off all our debts and we went to elecion labour won and spent money on ever think put us in a mountain of debt and you offer money to people they take it without thinking as they are the ones and there children who will have to paid it back god help us all THEY BLAME ABBOTT FOR EVERYTHINK AND DONT LOOK IN THERE OWN BACKYARD
    MAC22
    28th May 2012
    5:58pm
    If you want a voice in your future when we are on our pensions, for heavens sake take action and join COTA so our voices can be heard!!!!!!!
    Just for seniors.....www.cotamembership.org.au
    Check out the website!!!!!!

    6th May 2015
    4:46pm
    It is really a sad situation when we talk about the issue of pensioners and the current budget structure. We always spare a thought for the older generation but it seems that it is not possible to come up with a win-win situation for both the government and the pensioners themselves. Over time, we still have


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