Cholesterol medication controversy

At least one in 10 Australians aged over 65 takes cholesterol-lowering medication

Cholesterol medication controversy

At least one in 10 Australians aged over 65 takes cholesterol-lowering medication. The most commonly prescribed are statins such as atorvastatin, simvastatin and rosuvastatin. According to an article in the June edition of Australian Prescriber, however, the risk of the side effects of these drugs in older people may outweigh the benefits of remaining on statins.

The authors of the article, Associate Professor Sarah Hilmer and Dr Danijela Gnjidic of the University of Sydney, explained that research has shown statins to lower the chance of a heart attack in older people who have suffered one previously. The benefit of statins in those aged over 70 who do not already have heart disease is less clear.

“Statins can cause side effects, and these are more likely in people aged over 70, especially those taking several other medicines … Muscle pain or muscle damage are the most common side effects that cause people to stop treatment. Statins can also cause liver problems … Statins have also been found to contribute to memory loss or confusion in some people.” These quotes from the article outline just how serious the side effects of statins can be.

It is important that you don’t stop or change the way you are taking medication before consulting your doctor - stopping suddenly can be damaging to your health, depending on what drug you are taking. If, however, you are concerned or have questions about the medication you are taking, consulting your doctor is the best way to get answers. They will be able to help you weigh up the benefits and harms of a particular drug.

You can read the full article by downloading the June issue of Australian Prescriber





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    BettyBoo
    18th Jul 2013
    11:37am
    My husband was prescribed statins for nearly 30 years then he decided to be more pro-active in looking after his health. He began walking daily, cut out all sugar as far as possible from his diet, shed 16kg in weight and 15 cms from around his waist and, after discussing it with his GP, stopped taking the statins. At his last two health checks his cholesterol has remained stable and well within the normal guidelines. Far better, if possible, to live a healthy lifestyle than to rely on a chemical fix.
    SuzeB
    18th Jul 2013
    1:40pm
    I hope your husband continues to be well. My GP recently told me my cholesterol was heading up, although not high enough to be dangerous or require medication. I was not yet in the overweight zone. However, I introduced more vegetables into my diet, cut back on animal fats and without any real hassle on my part my weight started slowly creeping down. I've only lost about 3kg but, as I say, with only minor diet adjustment. I also lift weights, but need to walk more. I've yet to have my follow-up cholesterol check but I'm optimistic there's improvement.
    BettyBoo
    18th Jul 2013
    2:41pm
    Way to go SuzeB. I hope all your hard work pays dividends at your next check up.
    Precious
    2nd Aug 2013
    2:49pm
    I was taken into Hospital three years ago re rapid heart beat that just wouldnt calm down...I had several thoughtful ideas and diagnoes from several Drs...I was promptly put onto statins, Warfarin, and many other tablets which were mounting up by the week...I felt so ill that I truly thought I would die.....side affects were terrible...so each tablet had to be stopped down now to one tab low dosage fr heart health, chlorestrol to date...The side affects re warfarin were ballooning legs, shiny red and stiff.....I frankly told the Spec that I wouldnt take them anymore and he eventually agreed there may be no apparent need and it didnt really matter....stations well I was vomitting daily and even when I went a train ride had to get out the train to vomit....I was tired all the time my blood like pale pink water....and I could go on and on...I had never been under the Dr in either this country or others I had lived in before so all these toxins would have been a lethal chemical mix to my body......now my obs are normal and have been if ever they were not in the first place.....I`m aging now gracefull and happiliy but need to say that be very careful what you are all taking as it isnt always the best way to go....My muscles were almost destroyed etc and the hair fall was and still is bad too.....I had electric shock treatment to correct the hearbeat...I found out since that whenever I do get extremely hot my heart starts to race.......
    Hasbeen
    18th Jul 2013
    12:16pm
    After my first heart attack I was put on this medication by the hospital cardiologists after the instillation of a stent.

    My GP took me off them, as I don't have high cholesterol.

    The cardiologists put me back on them after my second heart attack & again my GP took me off them.

    After my third heart attack a cardiologist finally started answering some of my questions. Have you noticed that medical doctors seem to assume all patients are idiots who could never understand anything?

    From her I learned that in my case the medication was not to treat cholesterol in my blood, but to consolidate that which was already lining my arteries, making it less likely to flake off. It is the bits flaking off that were giving me my attacks, fortunately for me, reasonably mild attacks. That was 5 years ago, after 3 attacks in 26 months.

    I do have most of the symptoms mentioned, but then so do most clapper out old farts my age, so I'll stick with the medication for now.

    Are you surprised that I now have a different GP?
    Precious
    13th Aug 2013
    8:10pm
    I know exactly what you been through...We seem to live in a world now that pill popping is the norm...I chat to many on the internet from many countries and they say the same they are all on this preventative medication...The Dr on my radio station talks about the recently found info from either BMJ or others and to date he reckons there has never even been a paper written as to any better health from taking all these pills....I feel better than ever now and apart from artritis in the fingers and a few bones at times reckon I`m doing good as you say for an old F.....t.....My parents and rellies never even went to any Drs..altho Mum used to and take me with her.....I remember him sitting there an d telling Mum all about health probs etc and how to keep as healthy as poss...when we left his rooms it was down to the surgery where his lady there would make up an Iron tonic for me...Gee no wonder I`m as good as I am...all that iron......People used to live to really old age too and I well remember the old chap next door leaning on the front garden gate and a word or two with anyone who stopped by....he was over 100 when he never woke up and I dont think he ever saw a Dr in his life.....
    FrankC
    18th Jul 2013
    1:18pm
    When I was working in pathology at Westmead hospital, western Sydney, we had a lot of muscle biopsies, with the clinical details :" Lipitor induced polymysitis" (inflammation of many muscles ). I was on lipitor, and went and told the pathologist who had a cardiac clinic about that, and he put me on Crestor. I have never had a problem and have my liver function tests regularly, always in the middle of normal range, except for one of them (GGT) but that was because my cholesterol was raised in the beginning: 6.7. Many years ago , it was 8.2, and my GP did nothing then. I put myself on lots of oatbran , and fish 2 - 3 times a week, came down to 6.7. So speak to your GP about Crestor, if you are on statins.
    PRETTY BIRD
    18th Jul 2013
    5:10pm
    Crestor (Rosuvastatin) is a statin Frank , no different to the others
    FrankC
    18th Jul 2013
    1:21pm
    I am 72, and have been on this (Crestor) for 9 years.
    catsahoy
    18th Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    PRETTY BIRD, YOU ARE RIGHT, ALL THE MEDICATIONS FOR THIS HAVE THE STATINS, I WAS PUT ON LIPITOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I WAS GETTING MUSCLE CRAMPS, ESP IN MY LEGS, IT WAS AGONY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN I STARTED TO GET LUMPS IN MY BREAST, THINKING I HAD BREAST CANCER, THAT THE DOC. INFORMED ME IIT WAS THE LIPITOR, HE THEN CHANGED THE MEDICATION, BUT GOT THE CRAMPS WITH THEM ALL, I NOW HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP IT IN CHECK WITH DIET, I DO WALK APP. 10K A DAY, AND EAT FISH AT LEAST 3 TIMES A WEEK, IT IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT AFTER A SMALL STROKE 2 YEARS AGO, HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
    catsahoy
    18th Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    PRETTY BIRD, YOU ARE RIGHT, ALL THE MEDICATIONS FOR THIS HAVE THE STATINS, I WAS PUT ON LIPITOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I WAS GETTING MUSCLE CRAMPS, ESP IN MY LEGS, IT WAS AGONY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN I STARTED TO GET LUMPS IN MY BREAST, THINKING I HAD BREAST CANCER, THAT THE DOC. INFORMED ME IIT WAS THE LIPITOR, HE THEN CHANGED THE MEDICATION, BUT GOT THE CRAMPS WITH THEM ALL, I NOW HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP IT IN CHECK WITH DIET, I DO WALK APP. 10K A DAY, AND EAT FISH AT LEAST 3 TIMES A WEEK, IT IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT AFTER A SMALL STROKE 2 YEARS AGO, HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
    catsahoy
    18th Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    PRETTY BIRD, YOU ARE RIGHT, ALL THE MEDICATIONS FOR THIS HAVE THE STATINS, I WAS PUT ON LIPITOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I WAS GETTING MUSCLE CRAMPS, ESP IN MY LEGS, IT WAS AGONY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN I STARTED TO GET LUMPS IN MY BREAST, THINKING I HAD BREAST CANCER, THAT THE DOC. INFORMED ME IIT WAS THE LIPITOR, HE THEN CHANGED THE MEDICATION, BUT GOT THE CRAMPS WITH THEM ALL, I NOW HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP IT IN CHECK WITH DIET, I DO WALK APP. 10K A DAY, AND EAT FISH AT LEAST 3 TIMES A WEEK, IT IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT AFTER A SMALL STROKE 2 YEARS AGO, HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
    catsahoy
    18th Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    PRETTY BIRD, YOU ARE RIGHT, ALL THE MEDICATIONS FOR THIS HAVE THE STATINS, I WAS PUT ON LIPITOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I WAS GETTING MUSCLE CRAMPS, ESP IN MY LEGS, IT WAS AGONY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN I STARTED TO GET LUMPS IN MY BREAST, THINKING I HAD BREAST CANCER, THAT THE DOC. INFORMED ME IIT WAS THE LIPITOR, HE THEN CHANGED THE MEDICATION, BUT GOT THE CRAMPS WITH THEM ALL, I NOW HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP IT IN CHECK WITH DIET, I DO WALK APP. 10K A DAY, AND EAT FISH AT LEAST 3 TIMES A WEEK, IT IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT AFTER A SMALL STROKE 2 YEARS AGO, HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
    catsahoy
    18th Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    PRETTY BIRD, YOU ARE RIGHT, ALL THE MEDICATIONS FOR THIS HAVE THE STATINS, I WAS PUT ON LIPITOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I WAS GETTING MUSCLE CRAMPS, ESP IN MY LEGS, IT WAS AGONY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN I STARTED TO GET LUMPS IN MY BREAST, THINKING I HAD BREAST CANCER, THAT THE DOC. INFORMED ME IIT WAS THE LIPITOR, HE THEN CHANGED THE MEDICATION, BUT GOT THE CRAMPS WITH THEM ALL, I NOW HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP IT IN CHECK WITH DIET, I DO WALK APP. 10K A DAY, AND EAT FISH AT LEAST 3 TIMES A WEEK, IT IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT AFTER A SMALL STROKE 2 YEARS AGO, HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
    catsahoy
    18th Jul 2013
    10:53pm
    PRETTY BIRD, YOU ARE RIGHT, ALL THE MEDICATIONS FOR THIS HAVE THE STATINS, I WAS PUT ON LIPITOR ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY SIDE AFFECTS, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I WAS GETTING MUSCLE CRAMPS, ESP IN MY LEGS, IT WAS AGONY, IT WAS ONLY WHEN I STARTED TO GET LUMPS IN MY BREAST, THINKING I HAD BREAST CANCER, THAT THE DOC. INFORMED ME IIT WAS THE LIPITOR, HE THEN CHANGED THE MEDICATION, BUT GOT THE CRAMPS WITH THEM ALL, I NOW HAVE TO TRY AND KEEP IT IN CHECK WITH DIET, I DO WALK APP. 10K A DAY, AND EAT FISH AT LEAST 3 TIMES A WEEK, IT IS GRADUALLY GOING DOWN, BUT AFTER A SMALL STROKE 2 YEARS AGO, HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
    MITZY
    19th Jul 2013
    11:25am
    Any medication you take has some side effects. When you purchase it from your chemist it usually has a pamphlet with it indicating what those side effects are. Most pamphlets also indicate you should go to their website and read the full information. Most people never read these pamphlets they think the doctor is GOD and wouldn't prescribe anything to them that would harm them. You are responsible for your own health, no matter what. I'm 72 next month and do not take any prescribed medication whatsoever. I am one of the lucky ones. I had a slightly swollen right knee maybe 4/5 years ago (beginnings of osteoarthritis) and went to my GP (who I have visited 3 times in 13 years) and he suggested I take fish oil (which I didn't) and Glucosame 1500, vitamin C powder (whichI didn't) and multiBgroup vitamins (which I didn't). I decided on Glucosamine after studying about it and EPO (evening primrose oil instead of fish oil). Within about 2-3 months I had no sign of pain in the knee and no discomfort. I still take both those items religiously because if I go away for a week or two to visit friends etc. I never take these pills/capsules with me and I always start to feel the twinge in the knee. You can't get rid of osteoarthritis but you can control it.
    Instead of buying vitamin c tablets or powders, I have a more natural method.
    I have a Lemon Tree. I pick two lemons, wash them, squeeze the juice from them and put the juice in a blender. I then chop up the skin/pith into little pieces, pop the skin/pith into a saucepan and cover it with water. Bring it to a simmer, and simmer for 20 minutes. Add this to the lemon juice in the blender and add a big tablespoon of pure honey and blend. As it blends it starts to look like "lemon curd". I then pour it into a glass jar and keep it in the fridge. Every morning I take a dessertspoonful of this mixture and eat it. This is my pure vitamin C daily intake. My honey comes from a cousin who has beehives and produces his own, so I know I'm getting the absolutely purest of honey. He also gives me honeycomb too.
    Another good way to eat the lemon mixture is to spread it on your toast instead of jam (much better for you). It is a bit tarty, but you can add a little more honey to the mix, if you wish.
    student
    21st Jul 2013
    10:29am
    thanks Egyptian, I love lemons so will try it. I have a lemonade lemon tree YUMMMMMMM!!! I had to laugh at your "(I didn't)'s . I do the same thing except sometimes I even tell the Dr what is wrong with me and what I need :)

    Again, thanks for the tip.
    unicorn
    18th Jul 2013
    1:55pm
    I have never had a choice as my husband has been on lipitor for at least 15 years and before his operation went on a strict diet & daily walks I used to walk 10 miles but he would only manage about three and we would meet then come home. In only 2 weeks before his operation he went down from &.6 to 3.5 yet his doctor said it was impossible but his cardiologist saw different. Unfortunately I wasn't given any choice have only ever had lipitor but as my 2nd last blood test proved my cholesterol going down and my GP not very likely to change them. As the last test was exceptionally low I took myself off them. But then I went up again not dangerously high but a bit higher. However now am due for another blood test & if I am still low I will ask for a change. I don't believe in Lipitor or any other drugs most of the time.
    catsahoy
    19th Jul 2013
    9:33pm
    EGYPTION,the lemon and honey mixture sounds ok, will give it a try, i like the tangy taste,so stronger the better, certainly cant hurt,and the vitamin c with the lemons will be a bonus, thanks for that one,
    vickster
    18th Jul 2013
    2:03pm
    I have to say I had high cholesterol for years, had 2 strokes recovered well, the doctor had me on Lipitor the vascular surgeons had me on blood thinners, Clobidogerol, I had a massive change of diet cut out sugar and bad fats, gave up red meat to allow the liver to cleanse, last blood tests were excellent liver function great cholesterol perfect, I now only take a blood pressure pill and alternative meds, the main one that I swear by is The Miracle Enzyme - Serrapeptase, look it up, it's much safer than lipitor etc
    Sylvia
    18th Jul 2013
    3:35pm
    I also have high cholesterol levels, for years I took a statin and this kept my cholesterol in check, but over the years I got to the stage where I could only walk short distances with out pain, the drug was destroying my muscles, I never carried a lot of weight, was always active, and ate properly, in fact I have very good diet, and only eat small amounts of white meat, eat fish, rarely any eggs, mainly vegetarian dishes. I hardly use any fats or sugars, after lots of tests a specialist said to me "It is not your diet , it is just genetic and your liver is very good at making cholesterol" I have seen a naturapath with the co operation of my Doctor, after having a knee replacement , I have Osteo arthritis and was in a lot of pain, I was put onto high doses of krill oil and Coenzyme Q 10 and some natural pain killers,ect, after about 3 months I felt better than I had in years, and able to walk pretty good again, my cholesterol is still high, about 6.7, but I am at an age now when I feel maybe some of us will always have this problem, I have tried every thing that they have bought in over the years, Crestor, I got muscle cramps again after one dose, I stick to my diet, and and thank heavens the pain is managable now,.
    My mother lived until she was 99 and never had a cholesterol test! she didn't even know what it was! I guess we are all different and need to find what suits us. If there was a magic cure I would love to try it, I agree with Vickster
    I prefer to take alternative medicine if possible.
    vickster
    18th Jul 2013
    4:56pm
    well said Sylvia, good diet, exercise and alternative therapies and meds are the way to go in my book
    student
    18th Jul 2013
    5:47pm
    Thanks vickster for that, I'll talk with my Dr about Clobidogerol . I was prescribed Lipitor about 8 years ago and ended up on morphine for pain very soon after. I now take Ezetrol (approval from Canberra)10mg (child dose)and only have a couple of side effects now. The pain comes and goes and then I have to take morphine for a while. I am vegetarian now and swim 1k/day and walk every day if the pain allows. My mother's bad cholesterol was 12!! when she died (NO... not from a heart attack) and I have been told mine is inherited , not from diet. I honestly think somethings are better off not being told.
    aussiebill
    18th Jul 2013
    5:26pm
    As one who has taken Lipitor in the past the side effect that I experienced after 18 months on LIpitor was numbness of my feet. That was 2009 and I am now on Ezetrol without any side effects from that medication but the balls of my feet and toes are still numb 4 years later.
    After Lipitor I was placed on Lipidil and that caused skin eruptions and rashes at the back of my knees. As a result of that I have been on Ezetrol without any problems. However the downside is it only reduces cholesterol levels to 4.7 compared to less than 4.0 on the statins. But better that than coping with the side effects of the statins.
    Blossom
    24th Feb 2017
    1:49pm
    I would have thought 4.7 is good. Normal is/was 5.0.
    I have had aches& pains plus stomach upsets from every one that I have tried.. Stomach problems with only "baby" dose.
    KKKKatie
    18th Jul 2013
    6:20pm
    Have you googled Lipitor and Crestor? Interesting.
    Blossom
    24th Feb 2017
    1:44pm
    Both of them give me nasty side effects.
    Tricky
    18th Jul 2013
    7:57pm
    I'm 66 and was put on statins about 5 yrs ago, after a while the pain in my shoulders, elbows and neck became unbearable, I mentioned this to my dr at the time and he changed me from Lipitor to Crestor to some other statins over about a year with the pain getting much worse, I saw a different dr who put me on ezetrol , the difference was amazing for about 2 yrs however I now find that the old pain is returning, will have to visit the dr again
    student
    19th Jul 2013
    7:55am
    Like you Tricky, I seem to be unable to take statins. I am off to my Dr today to tell him about the side effects of Ezetrol. Yep the pain is back plus a few other things (high b/p one) I am sure the medications are more dangerous than high cholesterol.
    student
    25th Jul 2013
    1:19pm
    as a side note to the effects of statins, my b/p had returned to normal (128/80) from 155/95 + when on statins.
    CC
    18th Jul 2013
    8:40pm
    I was on cholesterol medication for years and had numerous aches and pains. My cardiologist recommended a calcification test and said if the result was a zero, I could come off the statins. The result was zero and despite my last cholesterol count being 9.3, the cardiologist said he has no issues with this, he has more issues with the statins, reckons they are poison.
    CC
    18th Jul 2013
    8:40pm
    I was on cholesterol medication for years and had numerous aches and pains. My cardiologist recommended a calcification test and said if the result was a zero, I could come off the statins. The result was zero and despite my last cholesterol count being 9.3, the cardiologist said he has no issues with this, he has more issues with the statins, reckons they are poison.
    Innyoo
    18th Jul 2013
    11:36pm
    my husband was on Lipitor, from that he had memory loss, eyesight loss, liver damage and diabetes ( that is becoming clear as a side effect). When he stopped taking it, his eyes got better, his memory improved, but the diabetes and liver damage aren't as reversible. There are other much safer things to take, but I think from reading above, that most people who improved their health had a major change in diet and exercise- that is the most effective treatment for most health problems.
    HOLA
    19th Jul 2013
    8:08am
    I was on Lipitor for a few years because of high cholesterol. The readings came down to an acceptable level 4.5, but the doctor changed me on to Crestor. I have taken these for about 2 years and my levels are great. Never the less I ended up having to have a triple by-pass l4 months ago as three of my arteries were 7o% blocked. I have complained to my doctor of pain in my elbows and forearms and she said to take Panadol. I had to see another doctor for a prescription and asked him if Crestor caused pain in the arms, and he asked if I had ever had my enzymes tested. I said no, and he said to ask,at my next blood test , he said if my enzyme levels are high in the muscles then I would need to change my prescription..Why can't doctors agree on the same treatment. My cardiologist said I should take Crestor for life. Are we the guinea pigs for medications? Sometimes I think doctors get kick backs from the drug companies to keep prescribing their drugs.
    bubyshka
    26th Jul 2013
    7:16pm
    Why can't doctors agree on the same treatment. My cardiologist said I should take Crestor for life. Are we the guinea pigs for medications?
    Yes I THINK WE are HOLA
    bubyshka
    26th Jul 2013
    7:17pm
    Sometimes I think doctors get kick backs from the drug companies to keep prescribing their drugs.
    i was told THEY DO

    19th Jul 2013
    9:24am
    Statins can cause the big C too, so says research
    catsahoy
    21st Jul 2013
    9:47pm
    HAVE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE CANCER PIXAPD, BUT A LOT MORE HAS COME TO LIGHT ABOUT THIS MEDICATION, AND CONSIDERING THE AMOUT OF PEOPLE THAT TAKE IT, I THINK ALL POSSIBITTIES NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED, CAN BE QUITE SCARY WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL THE MEDICATIONS WEARE GIVEN, I HAVE A WONDERFUL CHEMIST, WHO NOW GIVES ME A COMPLETE PRINTOUT OF ANY NEW MEDICATION IM GIVEN AS IV HAD SO MANY REACTIONS TO 'SO CALLED SAFE MEDS I GET A BIT FRIGHTENED OF TAKING ANYTHING,
    catsahoy
    21st Jul 2013
    9:47pm
    HAVE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE CANCER PIXAPD, BUT A LOT MORE HAS COME TO LIGHT ABOUT THIS MEDICATION, AND CONSIDERING THE AMOUT OF PEOPLE THAT TAKE IT, I THINK ALL POSSIBITTIES NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED, CAN BE QUITE SCARY WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL THE MEDICATIONS WEARE GIVEN, I HAVE A WONDERFUL CHEMIST, WHO NOW GIVES ME A COMPLETE PRINTOUT OF ANY NEW MEDICATION IM GIVEN AS IV HAD SO MANY REACTIONS TO 'SO CALLED SAFE MEDS I GET A BIT FRIGHTENED OF TAKING ANYTHING,
    maggie01
    19th Jul 2013
    12:34pm
    Is it true that if you come off cholesterol medicine it can cause a attack?
    I take Lipex 40
    Young Simmo
    21st Jul 2013
    9:58pm
    I hope you get an answer maggie01, as I stopped Lipitor 3 days ago. Come on there must be at least one CARDIO type person reading these pages. After reading all this stuff, it seems that there is a chance Lipitor is causing all my body pains.
    HOLA
    22nd Jul 2013
    4:08pm
    YOUNG SIMMO; As mentioned above, I was on Lipitor and then changed to Crestor and then needed a Triple By-Pass l4 months later, 70% blocked arteries. Cardio said I must stay on Crestor for life. I don't like the effects Crestor is causing in my arm muscles..Was told by another doctor to have enzyme levels tested with a blood test, if high, I should come off or put on a lower dosage of Crestor. Fed up with all these pains.
    Young Simmo
    22nd Jul 2013
    4:36pm
    Yes Hola, I went onto Lipitor about 2000 and had a triple bypass 18 months later. I don't think it was connected to the Lipitor as much as 45 years of non stop heavy smoking. Having said that the last 11 years have been a dream run on my Fully Reconditioned Engine. I don't do burn outs these days, but can cruise all day at 110 Kph.
    Young Simmo
    19th Jul 2013
    12:44pm
    Some of these comments are incredibly interesting for me. Back in 2000 my doctor put me onto 20 mg Lipitor, then 40 mg then 80 mg which I have been on for the last 13 years. I have been suffering with burning stinging feet for the last few years. Had about 4 different types of medication, a cream and special plaster on the bottom of my feet. Nothing has helped. First the Doctors said it was bad circulation, and after $300 on a Dawn Fraser con job my doctor now tells me I have neuropathy, which is a nerve problem. Reading the above messages tell me to either change my Lipitor Meds or stop them altogether. At 74, right and wrong does not come into the equation, quality of life is number one for me.
    student
    21st Jul 2013
    9:45am
    Check out the Mayo Clinic web site and you will find out just how bad Lipitor is. I am sure Drs know the side effects but don't want to tell us incase we decide not to take the meds (challenging their authority). WOW .. 80mg!!

    I ended up under a pain specialist and I had a procedure to kill the nerve endings in my back . It worked for a while so I started back on the statins (not Lipitor) again and ended back at the Pain Specialist again :) I'm off the statins again and have no intention of going back on them. I'll take my chances and have a better quality of life. However, it's up to you if you stop taking Lipitor or not, but don't come off them cold turkey.
    Young Simmo
    21st Jul 2013
    9:57am
    Thanks for the tip student, I did stop cold turkey a couple of days ago. I will go back on to half a tab for a week or so then stop altogether. I have had this incredible Burning stinging feet for about 3 or 4 years. Had 3 or 4 different types of tablets plus cream all no good. Now a really painful aching arm up to my shoulder and into my neck, could be the Lipitor from what I have read here. I will go and see the Quack for the 100th time tomorrow.
    student
    21st Jul 2013
    10:18am
    hey Simmo, I've finally woken up to why we get all of these illnesses as we get older..... It's only because we are old that we have the time to be ill :) I'm sorry about the pain in your feet. I'm lucky, I have very little feeling in my feet . I had the burning/stinging pain in my lower back and all sorts of meds (tablet morphine etc) didn't help and two series of facet joint injections had no effect. The radio oblation procedure worked for about 2 years ... so I started on Ezetrol ..(a statin 10mg) and sure enough, back came the pain :) I have heard that Lipitor is the most prescribed drug in the Western world ... someone is making a lot of money :) What did people do before statins were discovered?? They still lived good and productive lives.

    Please be careful coming off Lipitor Simmo, and please see your Dr. I'm not sure if the feet pain will get better quickly but I will be interested in following the Young Simmo and His Fight With Pain story :) Being pain free is great ... it lets me feel OLD AGE pain :) :) Ahhhhh gosh, I love being old :)
    maggie01
    19th Jul 2013
    1:00pm
    Just as an aside do Eskimo people have a lot of fish oil? perhaps there is an additive that causes the trouble??
    student
    21st Jul 2013
    9:53am
    Maggie, that is a clever assumption. I've heard it works for Eskimos too. I stopped eating red meat and became vegetarian ( not an easy path for me) and eat oats and cinnamon and other things to lower my cholesterol but to no avail. My mother had a cholesterol reading (bad cholesterol) of 12 just before she died ( she died of emphysema ) and never took cholesterol meds in her kife. I'm going to take my chances.
    Penqueen1949
    23rd Jul 2013
    1:25pm
    Student, with extreme chemical sensitivities to chemicals including medication I'll be taking my chances too. I was put on a months dosage of a statin six years ago, took one pill and had epileptic type seizures all day. I did not take any more and never ever will. Most people get headaches with allergies, I have fits so avoid anything that makes it happen. Since I have been on thyroid medication my cholesterol has improved. I wonder how many doctors think to check a patients thyroid for being underactive. I think most just write a script for statins.....
    student
    25th Jul 2013
    1:31pm
    Pen, my daughter used to react the same way you do, with fits. Luckily she grew out of that reaction. At the moment, am trying to get my GP, the pain specialist and the neurologist to liaise with each other re: my health. I also need to see a specialist about my thyroid ( killed off with radio active iodine a few years ago) Typing these few words makes me realise I have become complacent and need to be more active with my health care.

    Pen, (more thinking) the problems mentioned are auto-immune problems and the thyroid is the main engine.

    Thanks to all posters for making me think again :)
    Peter B
    19th Jul 2013
    10:30pm
    Interesting article on the overstating of benefits of statins. No benefits to women!
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:81PX6q6xA2kJ:www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-01-16/do-cholesterol-drugs-do-any-good+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a
    Yes, Wright saw, the drugs can be life-saving in patients who already have suffered heart attacks, somewhat reducing the chances of a recurrence that could lead to an early death. But Wright had a surprise when he looked at the data for the majority of patients, like Winn, who don't have heart disease. He found no benefit in people over the age of 65, no matter how much their cholesterol declines, and no benefit in women of any age.

    19th Jul 2013
    11:56pm
    I have genetically high cholesterol at age 40 I was put onto lipid lowering medicines as mine was 9.4, then when Lipitor and other statins came out was changed to them. Like others on here the muscle cramps became unbearable and was inhibiting what I could do, new research shows 1 in 5 will have muscle effects to statins and also neuropathy. I stopped taking them tried Crestor same effect so now I don't take them and the benefit is in being more able to be active and pain free. Quality of life against Quantity but 4 out of 5 people won't have those side effects so they are the lucky ones. The suggestion is to always discuss it with your Dr. Before stopping taking a anti-cholesterols.
    Young Simmo
    20th Jul 2013
    12:08am
    That's an interesting comment Vivity. As you can see above I have been on Lipitor for 13 years, and only persisted because I could eat all the Prawns, Eggs and Thickened cream etc, etc that I wanted and still maintain a good Cholesterol count. All of a sudden I am thinking that the Lipitor is also causing some of my pains. I will have to have a rethink.
    unicorn
    20th Jul 2013
    7:48am
    CC what is this calcification test you speak of is it a simple blood twst or what please. ?

    21st Jul 2013
    7:48am
    There is much evidence tht inflammation within the body (NOT cholesterol levels) is what causes plaque build up in the arteries and eventual heart disease. Inflammation can be caused by many personal factors such as stress, smoking, viruses, consumption of refined and/or hydrogenated fats (man-made trans fats), an imbalance of omega-6 polyunsaturated fats to omega-3 polyunsaturated fats in the diet, excess refined sugars in the diet, etc.

    Cholesterol is a healing substance within the body (among many other important functions), and responds to arterial inflammation by getting deposited in combination with other substances, forming "plaque" as a healing agent on the artery lining.
    Basically, if you have significant internal inflammation, this plaque will be deposited as a healing agent regardless of whether you have high or low cholesterol. On the other hand, if you don't have excessive inflammation, high cholesterol levels just keep circulating without getting deposited on the artery linings. Therefore, it is more important to control inflammation rather than trying to artificially "lower your cholesterol" with possibly harmful drugs.

    why are the pharmaceutical and medical industry pushing for practically everyone on the planet to "lower their cholesterol"? Because flawed medical studies from decades ago that have been accepted as fact and never fully analyzed for their validity? Another answer is that this practice of recommending that half of the planet takes a cholesterol lowering medication (such as statin drugs), regardless of whether they truly have any real risk for heart disease, creates enormous profits for the drug companies.

    http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm
    http://www.thincs.org/
    http://www.truthaboutabs.com/cholesterol-myths.html
    Penqueen1949
    23rd Jul 2013
    1:35pm
    Exactly.... those so called medical studies were done eons ago yet are still regarded as gospel today. Once upon a time man actually thought that lead was harmless too.....
    student
    24th Jul 2013
    6:02pm
    Lipitor may be the most successful cholesterol lowering medication on the market but it's lowest dosage is high. Great posts kika and Penqueen.
    Young Simmo
    21st Jul 2013
    8:05am
    This is just a thought, however I wrote this many years ago and if it can help anybody with their challenge of a life time, you are welcome.
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    A letter from a quitter to some friends


    Hello Peter and Thelma,
    Val said that you both quit smoking and I thought I would write you a few words of encouragement. I had my last fag on 13 June last year (2000) and am now past the worst of it, I hardly think about smoking and when I do the thought goes away after a second or two. Believe me it’s a nice feeling after 45 years of non-stop smoking.
    It’s also good fun putting no-smoking signs up around the house and car, and watching others who have to go outside like I’ve been doing for years. There was a quit program run at work and I joined in. I planned it about ten days ahead to stop at the end of a working block, I came home after night shift, had something to eat, put on a patch and went to bed.
    I used 1 patch per day for the first 3 weeks and then decided I was making progress and went to 1 patch every second day. I got out of it cheap as I only used 4 packets over 5 weeks instead of the recommended 10 over 10 weeks. There are a lot of milestones like, the first hour, first day, first week, first month and now I aiming at my first year. One thing that helps me is I know if I give in I’ll have to start counting again, and the thought of loosing 350 days of my personal battle is enough to bannish the thought from my head. Another thing that helps once you are down the road a little way is that, it takes a week for every year you have smoked to get rid of the gunk in your lungs. After about three months I started experiencing pains across my chest and having trouble swallowing food, and this persisted for a few months but is fairly normal if you are a long time smoker and is easing off now. After being 75 Kgs for the last 45 years I suddenly shot up to 90 Kgs and have stopped there for the last 8 or 9 months and it’s all behind my belly button. Another thing people kept telling me is, I would get my sense of taste back, that isn’t very noticeable but my sense of smell is very acute and almost annoying some times. I also started putting $70.00 into a canister each week but the novelty wore off after a couple of months. OK that’s enough waffling from me, just remember if you do give in, it’s ok to quit again soon after.
    Kindest regards,
    John.

    21st Jul 2013
    8:19am
    I suggest you read about the side effects of statins before you take it.

    “This week The Age reported that cholesterol – lowering drugs increase the risk of diabetes and memory impairment. This is really bad news for around two million Australians who take these medications believing they’ll lower their heart attack risk. While the report is concerning, it is also comforting to know that there is now too much evidence for health authorities to ignore the side effects of statins.”

    http://allthenewsthatmatters.wordpress.com/2012/03/04/the-madness-of-statins-a-must-read-for-everyone-especially-older-women/#comments
    Paddles
    30th Oct 2013
    10:17pm
    kika

    Of the numerous posts so far, you have come the closest to identifying the major problem in all this.
    To have a normally average healthy and tranquil life, avoid reading newspapers (especially the Sunday ones).
    catsahoy
    21st Jul 2013
    9:37pm
    WHAT I FIND CONFUSING IS WHAT EACH DOC SAYS YOUR CHOLESTEROL READINGS SHOULD BE, IT SEEMS THEY ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, MY FIRST DOC WHO PUT ME ON LIPITOR, MY READING WAS 3, AS I FOUND AFTER A FEW MONTHS THAT I COULDNT TAKE THE ANTI STATINS, THAT DOC SAID, WELL NOTHING WE CAN DO, HOPE FOR THE BEST, I HAD TO CHANGE DOCS ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO, HE NEVER MENTIONED CHOLESTEROL, BUT THEN HAD A SMALL STROKE , AFTER SPENDING TIME IN HOSPITAL WAS AGAIN TOLD MY CHOLESTEROL WAS A BIT HIGH AT 4, BECAUSE I COULDNT TAKE THE STATINS, WAS SUGGESTED I DO IT WITH DIET, AT LAST READING IT WAS 2.2, DOC THEN SUGGESTED HALF A LIPITOR EVERY 3 DAYS, AFTER 10 DAYS BACK CAME THE CRAMPS, THIS DOC SAYS 2 IS ACCEPTABLE. IT IS ABOUT 6 YEARS SOINCE I TOOK THEM REGULARLY AND THE CRAMPS STARTED BUT HAVE REALLY BAD KNEE PAIN SINCE, I WONDER IF ONCE YOU GET THE CRAMPS, WILL THAT HAVE A LASTING EFFECT EVEN WHEN YOU GO OFF THEM, AS THE DOC CAN FIND NO REASON FOR THE KNEE PAIN, HAS ANYONE EXPERIENCED THIS AFTER GOING OFF THEM?
    Young Simmo
    22nd Jul 2013
    9:35am
    OK, I have just posted this on an English forum, and thought I might chuck it in here even if it is slightly off subject. Call it desperation if it makes you feel better.
    Hello, this is my first excursion into this site except for my introduction. I am not looking for Medical advice from Medical people, as much as other peoples experiences.
    Briefly: I am 73 years, had Triple Bypass (CABG x 3) at 62, and in the Heart Dept I am travelling along quite nicely on my fully reconditioned engine and am a happy chappy. My problem that I hope some of you can relate to is like this. For the last 3 or 4 years I have suffered with Stinging / Burning feet. First I was told it was a Circulation problem (wasted AU$300 on a circulation booster). Then I was told it is Neuropathy (A nerve problem probably caused by Type 2 Diabetes). I have tried about 3 different types of Medication, some cream and even special elastic plaster tape stuck to the length of my feet. Nothing has changed my pain situation, in fact over the last 3 or so weeks the stinging in the balls of my feet and toes hasn’t changed. But I now have a painful bruised feeling in both of my heals. Going back to the Doc in the next day or so.
    I should add I am 6 foot one and a half Inches, not overly fit, but can still climb ladders and change the oil in my car. I like to think about average condition.
    There must be some people over there on the other side and other end of the world that can relate to my grizzels and grumbles.
    Paddles
    30th Oct 2013
    10:25pm
    Simmo

    This may be completely useless but I would, in your position, consider speaking to your Doctor about a trial of some vaso-dilator. Over many years in dealing with cardio-vascular disease, I have used (and still use) various dilators to control angina. Some years ago, a product that I was using was said to be eagerly sought by people suffering from CHILBLAINS. My immediate reaction was to laugh but when you think it through it makes sense in a way. In any case, it has no downside.
    student
    23rd Jul 2013
    11:06am
    Simmo, I can relate to your post. I ended up at a Pain Specialist ... Insurance Companies have them. My daughter works for AMP and I live near their pain specialist. I went through all sorts of mental and physical tests and then had different procedures. What was interesting was all the X-rays, ultra-sound tests and even MRI's couldn't pick up the cause. (I had abnormally low arthritis in my bones) After taking different tablets and morphine patches I am now on Lyrica, a med for nerve damage pain, and it is helping a lot. I also take Naprosin with the Lyrica when the pain gets bad . You will need a referral to the Pain Specialist but it's worth it. I think most major hospitals have a pain clinic.

    There is evidence that Lipitor is a concern with heart problems. (Check out the Mayo Clinic site and type in Lipitor and get ready to be frightened)

    Good luck. Pain is so debilitating.
    Young Simmo
    23rd Jul 2013
    11:26am
    Hi Student, I am also taking Lyrica but not sure yet how much it is helping me as I have only been on it for about 6 weeks. I have moments where I think to myself boy, I feel a bit better. Then a half hour later I change my mind. I have aches and pains in a lot of places, and after reading the comments above I stopped taking Lipitor last Friday after 13 years on 80 mg. I decided I have been listening to Doctors all my life, and it is time to take on board the opinions of real peoples real experience. At my stage in life it can't hurt me and just might make life worth living.
    student
    25th Jul 2013
    2:06pm
    Simmo, I still have pain but not debilitating pain. If I get joint pain during the night I use Voltarin. I still get niggley pain during the day sometimes but it doesn't stop me from living. Usually resting for say 30 seconds will enable me to get going again. I feel as if the main ball of pain has been shattered and gone into small clusters in my body. I put this down to nerve ending procedures I have had but it may not be. My pain now (at this moment in time) would be a 1/10 mainly because I have been sitting for a while (on the computer and telephone). I also take an anti-inflammatory sometimes with the Lyrica. Talk with your GP or Chemist.
    catsahoy
    23rd Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    i also have been given lyrica, but does me no good, ok for headaches but thats about all, you can expect to see more docs prescribe this now as it has been put on the p,b,s, it was 95 dollars a month, . im really begining to think diet and getting out into the fresh air work better, even if it is just pottering around in the garden, i all helps, you must try and keep the musceles moving, i used to walk 10/12 k a day but lately cant do it, but do get about 7 a day in,and with taking an endone along the way i manage,but its hard at times,
    Young Simmo
    23rd Jul 2013
    11:19pm
    Yeh catsahoy, I do something like 10 to 20 Kms a day and it makes me feel good. Mind you the fuel bill for the Falcon goes up at the same time, you can't win them all.
    student
    24th Jul 2013
    6:13pm
    cats, you made me smile, and Simmo, you made me chuckle :)I agree with getting out in the fresh air every day, cats. I can walk a few hundred yards some times and then have to rest ... and I meet some lovely people when I rest at the local oval :) They think I am 'in trouble' !! Well I am I suppose but I'm really resting :) I wouldn't give away my pain for anything. I really do meet some lovely people and I'm out in the fresh air :) I can't take morphine tabs, but do take Nurophen before I go
    catsahoy
    26th Jul 2013
    10:47pm
    simmo, you deserve a slap,lol
    catsahoy
    26th Jul 2013
    10:47pm
    simmo, you deserve a slap,lol
    catsahoy
    23rd Jul 2013
    10:52pm
    i also have been given lyrica, but does me no good, ok for headaches but thats about all, you can expect to see more docs prescribe this now as it has been put on the p,b,s, it was 95 dollars a month, . im really begining to think diet and getting out into the fresh air work better, even if it is just pottering around in the garden, i all helps, you must try and keep the musceles moving, i used to walk 10/12 k a day but lately cant do it, but do get about 7 a day in,and with taking an endone along the way i manage,but its hard at times,
    unicorn
    24th Jul 2013
    7:54am
    Lyrica is meant for Fibromyalgia cases.
    student
    24th Jul 2013
    6:28pm
    My specialist made me aware of that unicorn. The Professor at the Pain Clinic tested me for neurological and psychological problems but all of their tests came back normal. My pain only started after I took Lipitor, and I was so glad my Dr (GP) realised that too. I am also aware some anti-depressants (especially ones from the 1960's) can help with pain management. Different types of pain have different remedies.
    babin
    24th Jul 2013
    1:51pm
    catashoy don't use capitols- it is a sign of shouting.
    catsahoy
    26th Jul 2013
    10:50pm
    sorry babin, will try to remember, didnt mean to offend anyone, apologies to all,
    catsahoy
    26th Jul 2013
    10:50pm
    sorry babin, will try to remember, didnt mean to offend anyone, apologies to all,
    Young Simmo
    25th Jul 2013
    1:53pm
    Well thanks everybody, as I have said before I have been on 80mg Lipitor since 2000 (13 years). Because of my many aches and pains, Burning Feet, Lower Back, Hip, Osteoarthritis in my neck Etc, Etc, I stopped taking Lipitor last Friday. I will see how I go over the next few months, and get a blood test for Cholesterol and way it all up. The modern GPs don't want to get off their Arses these days and just want to punch the computer for a prescription, and go back to sleep until the next sucker comes in. So I will give real peoples thoughts and suggestions ago and see if I am still here next year.
    student
    25th Jul 2013
    2:09pm
    Good luck Simmo and let us know the outcome.
    Beemee
    26th Jul 2013
    11:44am
    We finally have our doctor to look to alternatives in diet or herbs rather than take any man made medication. There is so much on the Net about B.P. Pills and Cholesterol, none are what I would call totally safe.
    My husband was on Micardis for about 2 years for BP, but it failed to do any good even at the highest 80mg dosage. So after much thought and reading about the side effects of it, I found it could be stopped immediately as it was safe to do. But rather than take the chance, I weaned him off of them by lowering the dosages slowly over a period of 3 months, to be sure.
    Since that time, his BP is still around 145 - 150 systolic and its been like that for over 40 years, and of course the doctor panics and says too high. Every one is different, my husband operates comfortably at the BP reading and always has.
    His cholesterol is about 6.8 to 7.00 and again its been like that for over 40 years.
    I am concerned with so many of the cholesterol medications and their side effects, I have friends who are on them and they are lethargic, unmotivated, lack stamina and often times lack full concentration. The age groups of friends are between 45-60 yrs. My husband will soon be 73, and he has none of the above symptoms our friends have.
    It makes you consider that cholesterol medication affects the mind as well as supposedly controlling Cholesterol.
    Unfortunately what the medical fraternity will not tell you about cholesterol medications, is when it controls or reins in the bad cholesterol, it does not isolate the good, it takes that out as well. Hence the side effects when taking this form of medication.

    26th Jul 2013
    4:00pm
    My cholesterol is high but I have always been wary of statin medications so have avoided them. After reading the above comments I'm glad I have. For a long while I managed to get my cholesterol down by taking Chinese red yeast rice. It's called LIPOPLEX and is produced by Metagenics. It contains a natural statin. After quite a few years on that though it stopped working for me so I had a break for a long time and have just started again about 3 months ago. Have yet to have a test to see if it is working for me again. I have several friends who take it with good results. I order it through the chemist.
    catsahoy
    26th Jul 2013
    10:43pm
    student, glad you can at least still smile, believe me im not bragging or trying to be smart when i talk about my walking, i have days [like today] when it takes all my time to get out of bed, i can relate to you with resting when you walk and meeting people, its a great way to meet, since ive had to cut my walking back i try to get about in the little garden i have, i just think if we can move, no matter how we do it, it will help,.i am convinced the cramps i get in my knees are the result of the lipitor from a few years ago, although i stopped taking it, the leg pain hasnt gone, i wouldnt take them again, would sooner take my chances. you say simmo makes you chuckle, yes he has a strange sense of humour,[expect a come back to this] ha ha simmo, you have made someone smile,
    Beemee
    30th Oct 2013
    12:31pm
    Having been down this road with our Doctor which following his advice just didn't work My husband was on Micardis for his high BP for about 18 months and slowly the dosage went from the minimum to the maximum, and still no change. For 23 years that I can remember his BP has always been between 135 - 150 systolic and its not likely to change.
    Then he started hammering hubby with his high cholesterol. That also has a regular 6.3 to 7 in over 23 years.
    But some good news on these silly man made medications, they control the LDL's (bad) but they do not distinguish between them and the HDL's (good). It will take both the good and bad down to a level that isn't good for anyone. Having a few friends on cholesterol tablets, I have seen changes in them that isn't for the good. They are lethargic, unmotivated and tired all the time. Their comprehension ability has halved making them appear dull witted.
    So I went into more study with my medical books (main stream and natural) to find out some actual facts instead of this hit and miss attitude.

    Fact: Doctors are reading the information you get from blood tests the wrong way.
    Just because you are 7 or 10 even, it doesn't mean there is a cause for immediate alarm, as there is a formula that should be used to really decide if you are a potential candidate for heart problems.
    It is NOT the amount of cholesterol but the ratios of total cholesterol to HDL; and also the ratio of triglycerides to HDL that matter the most. In both cases of course, the lower the better.

    Cholesterol to HDL - less than 5
    Triglycerides to HDL - ideally 1.5 ratio but definitely less than 3

    My husband's cholesterol test fit these parameters well even though he appears to be high as total cholesterol. So do check yours, you may be on medication that you simply do not need. If you are borderline or worse, remain on the cholesterol tablets till changing your diet to have them in the right ratios.

    Fact: HDL's are a special type of fat required by every cell in the body to function properly. 25% cholesterol comes from diet, but 75% comes from the liver where it is manufactured. The body uses the good HDL cholesterol to manufacture hormones such as oestrogen and cortisone and also nutrients such as Vitamin D. Excessively manufactured cholesterol and triglycerides or a body system for dis[posing the excess are inefficient, the blood fats build up along with Calcium deposits, clogging and hardening the blood vessels.

    So armed with this information, the liver is the root cause if your diet is under control, and there is also an Amino Acid that assists in the manufacture of cholesterol so it is that one we need to address to control the rest.
    No good placing a bandaid on a gash, don't treat the problem you see but rather the cause that you can't, and the rest will fall into place.
    Peter B
    30th Oct 2013
    12:38pm
    Everyone watching Catalyst on ABC Thursday at 8? Second part exploding the cholesterol myth. This week is on medications. It's a must see. Naturally, see your GP before taking any action on medication.
    Kt
    31st Oct 2013
    12:43pm
    yes Peter B ,Catalyst has the attention of many . Remember this is the opinion of only a number of people.
    The one thing said at the beginning was " these reports do not apply to the 1% of
    the population who have genetic "familiar hyperlipemia " . I am one of these people and have been on statins for 24 years.
    I was changed to Lipitor many years ago , after being on the trials for this drug ,and take (80mg) Lipitor plus 10 mg Ezetrol per day .
    I did not die in my early 50 's like my mum and my grandmother from heart problems . I am enjoying life at 70 ! So if these drugs are helping me live longer then I will keep taking them . Yes there is side effects from all drugs -but at least we are alive to feel them .
    Kt
    31st Oct 2013
    1:04pm
    OOOPS ,should be =familial+hyperlipidaemia / familial hypercholesterolemia, Kt
    unicorn
    1st Nov 2013
    4:26pm
    Oops too late, I had already decided not to take any more cholesteral tablets after nearly a month off them. at my Doctor's okay (for i month) upon my return to her she suggested I go back on a different brand because I did feel a bit better after being off Lipitor so I started back on the low dose??? and almost immediately got back to cramps & stiffness, so without any ado I just stopped them. After watching the show and listening to that much sense without the influence of drug companies.
    Young Simmo
    2nd Nov 2013
    1:33am
    Yeh unicorn, I tend to agree with you. At the risk of boring everybody, I am 73 and 30 years past my Father and expect to fall off the perch fairly soon. When this cholesterol thing started here a few months ago, I stopped the 80 mg Lipitor I have been on since 2000 and started again and now am going to stop for good. I have had much more than I payed for or deserve, and will take my chances. After a total engine rebuild, (Triple Bypass) in 2002 I am cruising. I met My Darling in May 1954 , got married in 1960, and now after a wonderful 53 years I am happy to go any day that fits in the Nature Cycle.
    unicorn
    2nd Nov 2013
    6:16pm
    Young Simmo, I tell you most Doctors are paid in one way or another by Drug Companies for recommending their drugs Lipitor, being the most prescribed pill in the "modern" world. In fact I receive an email from America which tells of sme of the "adventures" of these drug companies. One doctor who spoke out in America even had his rooms trashed and it was proven by investigation to be the drug companies that had done the damage thinking they would get rid of the problem of him speaking out against them when he had time to think about the damage. It didn't.! My husbands doctor typed out a list of his recommendations for him to follow but never once did he mention that he should take these cholesterol tabs yet he still prescribed them I think because he would not be game to tell him straight out that he should not take them, because of the drug companies. ,,Like you I have lived all my 73 years and been married for 53 (54 later this month ) and I think quality is better than quantity so no more Lipitor garbage for me...
    Young Simmo
    8th Jan 2015
    10:01pm
    Well with the odds seemingly stacked against me, and taking Lipitor for 15 years and my Cholesterol never going over 5, and having lived so far 32 years longer than my Father, I will stay with my habit and laugh all the way to the grave.
    Marlin
    18th Feb 2017
    9:15am
    COME ON!!!
    This article was originally published in the JUNE issue of Australian Prescriber of 2013. Then printed in this newsletter in JULY 2013.
    Can't you have more recent and up to date articles, rather than recycling old ones?
    This happens with regular monotony in this newsletter.
    When putting out articles on medications and health issues, it behoves you to make sure that the articles are CURRENT, up to date, recent and researched well.
    Young Simmo
    18th Feb 2017
    3:57pm
    Boy it doesn't take much to get the wingers out of the wood work, Marlin go and sweep your floors if it is that bad. No it is much easier to stay here and rubbish people making a contribution.


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