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Medicare to undergo revamp

The Federal Government announced yesterday that the efficiency and value of every subsidised test, treatment and procedure will be investigated in a review designed to revamp the Medicare system and free up money for use elsewhere in the healthcare budget

According to Minister for Health Sussan Ley, many Medicare items are no longer used or were found to be used inappropriately. “Patching it up with bandaids is not a solution”, she said during the announcement of the decision.

Ms Ley said, “The Medicare system is sluggish, bloated and at high risk of long-term chronic problems.” Last year the Government paid out $20 billion on more than 350 million Medicare services.

According to research from leading academics, there are at least 150 ineffective, expensive or outdated Medicare-funded items. Associate Professor Adam Elshaug from Sydney University stressed the importance of reducing inappropriate tests and procedures to deliver better healthcare for Australians.

“It's also ensuring we save those dollars and those dollars can be allocated elsewhere in the healthcare budget”, Mr Elshaug said.

In addition to the overhaul, the Government made it clear there would be no GP co-payment and that there were no plans to introduce one.

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    Tom Tank
    24th Apr 2015
    10:09am
    Given this Government's record of lies and deceit can their statement on improving Medicare be taken at face value?
    The LNP in the past have been quite obvious about dismantling Medicare and they are of course supported, or driven by, The Institute of Public Affairs with their extreme right wind agenda.
    Anonymous
    24th Apr 2015
    10:19am
    What is Shortens ideas on Medibank oh" thats right he hasn"t got any /
    Kato
    24th Apr 2015
    11:57am
    More than likely Shorten will borrow the same ideas that his mates the Liberals adopt . Flog the failed overseas ones. The changes to welfare are mirror image of the changes that were implemented in the UK. The reality is having sold off the farm all sides of politics are bereft of genuine ideas and reform.
    Reeper
    24th Apr 2015
    11:58am
    Earth calling Tom Tank, Earth calling Tom Tank........mmmmm, must be blind and deaf to commonsense
    tia-maria
    24th Apr 2015
    1:05pm
    ROBO, we had enough of you yesterday stirring the pot up to boiling point.........Liberal Party is in also wake up as their going to cause a lot of damage with health system
    Anonymous
    24th Apr 2015
    2:13pm
    Hey tia-maria I obviously got you going I hope you are not one of those freeloader pensioners that I talk about, or worst still a leftie.
    moke
    24th Apr 2015
    2:15pm
    When I went to work you joined a medical fund or paid out your self if you were working and earning money, Only the aged and poor got help with medical bills and hospitals. Back to the old days would certainly give the Gov some money.
    tia-maria
    24th Apr 2015
    2:37pm
    ROBO, first mate its all about your attitude and next everyone is entitle to one opinions...............Did you get me going?? NO ?.. but your attitude shows me you have no respect for anyone but your own opinions ...........cheers
    Anonymous
    24th Apr 2015
    2:49pm
    I have respect for those who earn it and of course we are all entitled to our own opinion and I am sure I differ from you in nearly every thing, but thats life.
    Have a good weekend and we will see what next week brings
    Tom Tank
    24th Apr 2015
    3:00pm
    Nice to read that Reeper has nothing to contribute but personal attack. It is a pity some people never grow up, probably because they never have to face the reality of life.
    tia-maria
    24th Apr 2015
    3:31pm
    Tom Tank you hit the nail on the head mate
    MITZY
    25th Apr 2015
    10:46am
    Sum 1: Neither the Coalition or Labor are much better than each other.
    When you keep blaming Labor for their six years it would be advisable to look at the 2008 TREASURY REPORT and also the IMF Reports that said the HOWARD Government was the biggest wasting government we ever had!
    In the 2008 Treasury report it stated that the Howard Government blew/wasted $314 Billion, nearly 1/3rd of a Trillion Dollars - 94% of a $340 Billion China/Economic Windfall buying votes with its Tax Cuts; Baby Bonuses etc. in the 2.5 years from the 2004/2005 budget until 2007.
    This waste equates to over 1/3rd of Billion Dollars each and every day for 2.5 years and we didn't have a single thing to show for it.
    It cost us dearly in crumbling infrastructure, a dysfunctional health system (Federal share of health fell from 50% to 41% leaving the States to pick up the difference); aged care, land care, education, Murray River, homelessness (entire families) increased 17% in the Howard government, despite the "Rivers of Gold" pouring into Treasury.
    The Howard Government left Labor no option but to borrow to stave off the GFC because the Coalition wasted 1/3rd of the Trillion Dollars in their last 2.5 years in office. And, nothing was done about a Paid Parental Leave Scheme in that reign, or an NDIS, or an NBN.
    It depends which way you present figures as to debt/deficit etc. but if you are going to blame Labor for everything, as usual, Labor had to do the Coalitions job for them, i.e. start the re-building.
    I know one particular poster on this site always indicates the Coalition has to clean up and reduce debt after Labor, but sometimes the rhetoric is distorted somewhat.
    Why have the voters kept changing from these two major parties since just about forever? Maybe its because neither one of them has all the answers.
    The voter is fairly astute and they know when its time to change.
    BBQ
    24th Apr 2015
    11:36am
    I would be asking the questions 'How often and at what total cost have the outdated expensive items been used in the last 12 months' Bet you would find that most haven't been used for years! Sounds like a lot of smoke and mirrors to me1
    Jen
    24th Apr 2015
    11:42am
    All I know is, this government is not going to be doing the people any favours. Let them call it what they like. It will mean a higher cost of living especially for those who can least afford it.

    I call it The Dilution of Medicare.
    Kato
    24th Apr 2015
    12:05pm
    Same old rhetoric from Hockey this morning on tv. So yes you can expect it to come back in some form.
    tia-maria
    24th Apr 2015
    1:09pm
    Jen and Kato, your right about this government......... they promise the earth to gain power..........Now the down falls with come at high cost to our health system and next Baird will sell off our Public Hospitals to the highest bidder.........
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:35am
    Don't forget the water supply is going to 'need' privatising for best cost-effectiveness at your expense. I understand Ganges River Spring Water (Imported from India) has certain health qualities...
    Renny
    25th Apr 2015
    7:51am
    One of the first things mentioned was blood glucose test strips for diabetics. They want rid of them and to only do three monthly blood tests. All the research proves that daily frequent testing leads to improved management. That leads to many people not needing any medication at all. It's a cost cutting exercise.
    Renny
    25th Apr 2015
    7:51am
    One of the first things mentioned was blood glucose test strips for diabetics. They want rid of them and to only do three monthly blood tests. All the research proves that daily frequent testing leads to improved management. That leads to many people not needing any medication at all. It's a cost cutting exercise.
    Kato
    24th Apr 2015
    11:52am
    Ms Ley said the system is sluggish, bloated and at high risk of long-term chronic problems.”
    She just nailed the chronic Illness that is the political system in Australia.
    Jen
    24th Apr 2015
    2:03pm
    That's exactly what I thought when I heard Ms Ley.
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:36am
    Never a truer word was spoken, Kato...
    wally
    26th Apr 2015
    11:25am
    Kato, do you suspect that Ms Ley is referring to Medicare's problems as a result of increasing a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy created by the past Labor government to Kow Tow to their Union masters in enlarging the union membership in the bureaucracy?
    Reeper
    24th Apr 2015
    11:56am
    Medicare is itself in need of help; those who doubt that are probably still struggling to believe the world isn't flat. It is a system which came under abuse by users and providers from day one, and barely a month passes that someone isn't facing prosecution for that abuse.
    The system has self-bloated and those that rort it have made a good system into a nightmare which can't cover it's own running costs. There are only two solutions; increase user payment or, clean the whole system out. We all saw the tantrums which ensued when that horrible Tony Abbott suggested users pay a tiny bit more so a good clean out is the only answer. Now, we are seeing the usual idiots complaing about that! What we aren't seeing from these people are alternatives.
    What do people expect? You want affordable health care but you don't want to pay for it, you don't want all the crud cleaned out from the system to make it more affordable, but you offer no alternatives. If Medicare isn't improved then there will be no health care within the means of most Australians..... but a lot of you obviously don't care!
    Kato
    24th Apr 2015
    12:11pm
    Couldn't agree with you more reeper. She should be starting the clean out at the top end. The medical providers. And while she is at it sort out that dogs breakfast called private health for never has there been a bigger rort.
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:38am
    If we look at the reality of super tax subsidies and how that turned out to be another way of letting the mates have a huge handful of taxpayers' money legitimately - I'd say the Medicare system has some high end freeloaders to cope with........
    Renny
    25th Apr 2015
    7:53am
    We've got affordable quality healthcare. The only issue is this govt wants to prop up its rich mates and themselves at the expense of the rest of us. I truly hope you never get a serious illness - will that make you a freeloader too?
    SGW
    24th Apr 2015
    12:27pm
    Kato Said: She just nailed the chronic Illness that is the political system in Australia.

    How true
    Oars
    24th Apr 2015
    12:27pm
    Tom. When you were given a reduction in pocket money as a kid, did you go and blow the lot on rubbish? Think a bit before you unleash those socialistic views. Maybe you can blame the successful for being wealthy. That's another old bleat from the "bleaters". Tom, wake up mate. Labor left us almost without pocket money, and are now cutting holes in the kids pockets with negative attitudes. What would YOU do ?
    Jen
    24th Apr 2015
    2:10pm
    That's nonsense Oars and you know it. Australia was in one of the best fiscal positions of any country in the world at the last election. But if you say it was bad then, then it's 10 times worse now. And if Tom's views are to be sneered at as "socialist views" then yours are teaparty views. Ridiculous.
    Tom Tank
    24th Apr 2015
    3:08pm
    I am afraid Oars that if you think my views are Socialistic you have just clearly established your ignorance of such matters.
    Oars
    24th Apr 2015
    6:38pm
    So you two "sidestepers". Answer the question. What would YOU TWO DO if they cut YOUR pocket money. Forget the bleating bigotry. As for the Labor party being the reason for Oz to be in good shape- please read back through the MINING BOOM THEN. The Miners gave OPZ the high credit rating- then labor spent it all up and left a DEBT. Remember ??? I sure as hell do. and so do most realistic (unbiased) people. So there- I'm back- with facts not bigotry.
    gilstamp
    24th Apr 2015
    8:36pm
    Howard spent it in advance.
    MITZY
    24th Apr 2015
    1:02pm
    There's really nothing much to discuss with this at present. The review has not commenced yet. It would be more appropriate if Ms. Ley and her panel of advisers put forth what exactly their intentions are to revamp Medicare. At the same time the overall picture should involve the Private Health sector as well. Ever since Howard got thousands of people to partake of it, it has just gone up and up in its insurance costs. Now, with the last increase, people are wanting to get out of it, but because of the penalties involved to do so, they are stuck in it and really can't afford it, many pensioners in private health definitely must wonder how much longer they can afford it. If they want to cut something out they should stop the "freeze" on the rebates to doctors/patients. When this was done in the 90's it caused many doctors to stop bulk billing. This will happen again. People will not be able to afford to visit the doctor and then their health problems will mushroom, causing more costs to Medicare.
    Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what the "cut/slash" entails and we can have a good whinge then.
    wally
    25th Apr 2015
    4:02pm
    Surprise MITZI. (Or should I say SHOCK1 HORROR1?) I agree with you on this one. Some of our respondents go into meltdown whenever the government says it Is going to look into a review of public service procedures. Using that approach, our usual suspect respondents would equate going to see their GP for a 10 AM health check and carry on as if they were going to wind up becoming heart donors for a noon time heart transplant operation!
    But then the Shock, Horror and Mum/'s Agony headlines have always been attention grabbers and have sold millions of newspapers over the years. So the fear and panic of "Who's going to do what horrible thing next" crops up in political debate time and time again. We will see a lot more of this sort of playing on people's fears of the unknown future to push one sort of political agenda or another for a long time to come.

    Having said that, you just might be right in suggesting that the cost of medical services are going to rise, just like everything else, from fruit and veg to Ford Falcons since 1970 or 1980. But should we want a return to dental and medical procedures and practices as they were 45 years ago? I think not.
    eggles01
    24th Apr 2015
    2:11pm
    can anybody tell me why labor members like T T are allowed to to leave comments on these types of media i am sure that T T would like to go down the same track as the rudd the dud and juliar governments or should i say the gangrene party by borrowing many more billions from china and then pay it back by selling Australia to them to say thank you
    Anonymous
    24th Apr 2015
    2:29pm
    Good comment eggles01 ,the gangrene party that is a new one to me and I like it, but we are all allowed a say I guess it is called democracy and it wouldn"t be interesting if we all barracked for the same side
    tia-maria
    24th Apr 2015
    2:44pm
    eggles01, wait a minute I will give you a small lesson down memory lane if you like????
    BUT it was the Liberal government who changed the nursing system from working on the wards to going to University..........and bloody hell mate what stuff up that's been.....so we cant blame Labor for everything or can we blame Liberal as saying goes..........BUT be very weary for Mr Baird will do damage to the hospitals in time and Medicare I hate to think...........TRUST no politicians
    Tom Tank
    24th Apr 2015
    3:05pm
    Ah dear me those of the Right cannot cope with an honest statement. I am not, have never been and never will be a member of any political party.
    I think for myself and base my comments on the evidence that is there for all to see. It is so true that 'Some only see what they want to see and disregard the rest". Thanks to Simon and Garfunkel for that little gem even if it is slightly altered.
    Patriot
    24th Apr 2015
    3:27pm
    eggles01 & ROBO
    TT Is allowed to express "The Facts" because this is (only just) a Free Country!
    I am certain that "Paid Plants (trolls?)" from Political Parties will - in the not too distant future, make it an offence to "Express One's Opinion" if this opposes the "Prevailing Government Line".
    You TWO certainly seem to object to have opposing opinions expressed.
    FIGHT THE FACTS - NOT THE MAN !!!!!
    KSS
    24th Apr 2015
    3:43pm
    The issue isn't which side of the fence people are deemed to be on that is the problem. Of course everyone is 'entitled' to their opinion without needing approbation from anyone else. What is not OK is the rudeness, name calling and insults that fly not only at those in public office but also directly at other contributors should they happen to disagree with the writer of them.
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:42am
    "All lies and jest,
    Still a man sees what he wants to see
    and disregards the rest"

    .... brilliant song... Paul Simon wrote it..

    I agree with KSS - let's stick to the issues and leave the ad hominems out of it. Respect the right of others to hold a view and express it - that is why they are here.
    Oars
    25th Apr 2015
    6:01pm
    I notice a disgusting habit of thoise who idealise labor- as though it supports thde worker. When the recent downturn of the economy occured ( remember you die hards it was only five years ago_ the workers lost their jobsm, yet the labor party's Union mates has thousands of dollars. Rember the twit who used union fees to pay for pros.? Oh- I see that's all past now. Another thing these lefties cry out when their party is caught out- and that's pretty frequently- they defend these shockers with " the liberal party does that too. So their logic is if you stick your head in the sand, see no wrong with your enmtrenched labor party mentality, all they have to do is spit outr vile that they brew up in their regular "hate meetings." I have been to many, and I wanted to staple up some of those curling bottom lips. They looked like a urangatang whose just had their d*** shopped off in the mating season. Why not admit that labor rorts are shockers and try to improve the worker's rights without blaming the "bosses". They too are workers- they take their work to bed with them many times. By the way, the liberal party has over 50% of the primary vote, yet only 2% are from the top end of town. Get some facts before you dig further into the sand.
    Mike Omment
    24th Apr 2015
    3:29pm
    Jen ,thanks for re writing history.Thats very clever
    Sum1
    24th Apr 2015
    5:37pm
    Labor inherited a $30 billion credit and in 6 years turned this into a $670 billion deficit. I wonder if the average wage earner has cottoned onto this clever strategy and borrowed then squandered their way to prosperity. Jen seems to be happy with Labor putting the country into near receivership.
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:44am
    Wee Johnnie sold off the farm to get a 'surplus' then successive governments had no solid revenue package to derive income from - now the bit is in deeply since the short-term thinking of the 'resources boom' has collapsed, with ore selling under the cost of production....

    Smoking Joe has doubled the deficit in less than two years.
    Sum1
    25th Apr 2015
    4:12pm
    Didn't realise that Wee Johnnie ( shows your bias and churlishness) sold off the farm. What were those farm details again?
    Didn't realise that we now owe $1340 billion.
    Didn't realise that Labor did not receive any windfalls from the huge mining boom from 2007-2013.
    Thanx for that well researched and informative run down. Trebor.
    wally
    25th Apr 2015
    4:13pm
    The Gillard/Rudd government's "Abbott Proofing" policy of signing Australia up to financial obligations and commitments that the incoming LNP had no choice but to honour. This accounts for the necessity for the Treasurer to raise the debt ceiling and borrow more money to honour the commitments Gillard, Rudd and Swan left as a "housewarming present" for the incoming government. Especially as they concealed the true amount of debt that Labor had run up prior to the 2013 election
    Grateful
    24th Apr 2015
    3:51pm
    Will they also take a good hard objective look at how specialists, in particular, totally flaunt the so called "schedule fee"??? What a joke that is, they are a law unto themselves and would be one of the greatest rorters to our health budget, but, who will get the blame and where will the cuts come from? Yes, the poor chronically ill patient!!
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:47am
    Good point - the only solution to free range charges by specialists etc is totally socialised medicine - which we do not have here in any sense... we have a middle of the road health system in perfect keeping with the principle that an effective governance is a combination of capitalism and socialism (the latter often mistaken for the dread communism)...

    So - what do we do? Impose set fees on doctors, make them state employees, or let them free range?
    Grateful
    24th Apr 2015
    3:51pm
    Will they also take a good hard objective look at how specialists, in particular, totally flaunt the so called "schedule fee"??? What a joke that is, they are a law unto themselves and would be one of the greatest rorters to our health budget, but, who will get the blame and where will the cuts come from? Yes, the poor chronically ill patient!!
    Abby
    24th Apr 2015
    7:22pm
    Totally agree Grateful
    the money that the so called specialists charge is scandalous.
    pate
    24th Apr 2015
    4:39pm
    I they did not keep paying Big Phara to poison us all & teach doctors about nutrition instead of pills we would be healthier & therefor not need to use Medicare so often.
    Patriot
    24th Apr 2015
    6:57pm
    pate,
    That's "A bit of truth" that the corporations certainly did not want to "Fall off the wagon".
    If, additional to that, we would stop "Adulterating the food supply" by returning to "Good-Old Unprocessed food" we might just about have the prevailing "Sickness Industry" to its knees. Would increase the "Dole Cues" somewhat but - we the people - would certainly be "a lot healthier". "Tony & Joe" just would "Squeeze the Pensioners & Ex-Service people" a bit more financially to be able to afford it all.
    Or would the enormous savings on Medicare (The sickness Industry Department) be able to "Foot-the-Bill?"

    Oops, I better be careful as - otherwise - some troll(s) will "Get-Up" and suggest that NOBODY talk to me because it offers me the opportunity to reveal more (unpalatable) corporative truths/secrets!!!
    buby
    25th Apr 2015
    12:19am
    trouble is pate, Most of our foods now are genetically modified, so we not getting the proper vitamins most likely and that why we need the extra Pills. No wonder we sicker than ever. Perhaps we should strive to cut back on how many cigars hockey is smoking perhaps that would help to clear his mind!!! He should know better, those things will kill ya, and i'm sick of putting towards him buying them. Why can't he look after his health better huh!!! and our pockets>?
    Not Senile Yet!
    24th Apr 2015
    11:54pm
    Yeah Yeah Yeah!!!!
    Left...Right..Labor Liberal....POOHEY!!!
    Blame Blame Blame!!!! It's your parties fault...no it's not it is your parties fault ...not mine....Blah Blah Blah!!!
    You are ALL missing the Point aren't you????
    Every other Country in the WORLD wish they had thought of ...and Have...a Medicare System like OURS!!!!!
    In America....people have their teeth falling out of their heads....because they cannot afford to pay for the Dentist...Doctor...or have expensive tests!!!!
    Here we are ....with the best system.....but with a Party System that wants to DISMANTLE it any way they can!!!
    Both Parties simply do not want to pay any more money into it....they would rather ditch it and save OUR money for themselves and THEIR idealistic Policies!!!
    Yes it does need a review....Medicare has to be serviced and reviewed to keep it relevant....just like a car...it needs a grease and oil change....but NOT by Blatantly Biased Politicians with the agenda of getting rid of it!!!
    So the REAL question is....just WHO do you trust to do a thorough Job WITHOUT an Agenda that is about getting rid of it altogether!!!
    Medicare was never intended to be a Free for All for anyone...be they patients or Doctors or Private Businesses!!!
    It was supposed to be for those who had no other alternative!!!!
    We currently have a Party in control of a bunch of Puppets called MP's.....which has it's own agenda of Privatising everything that can make money!!!! To turn us into Australians that have American Idealism and Policies.....to swing into Privatisation just for the sake of it!!!
    Are we so blind that we cannot see that in 150years and with less population than the Yanks have in one city, we have achieved what they simply could not in terms of a better more caring nation with regard for our own citizens......and we have done so without Slavery!!!
    Do we need to abandon our achievements to copy cat a Nation that is now self-destructing from within from Violence and Crime alone???
    I think not!!!
    I also think that neither Political Party in their Current Form are FREE of Corrupt Views of what they want versus we the Public's views of what WE want for the Future of Australia.
    They tell us we need to be innovative and creative...whilst they simply copy-cats out of date Policies from overseas....or do secret Free Trade Deals that put not just a couple of people out of work....but thousands upon thousands!!!
    They shift the retiring age without organising a transition phase for older workers to re-train and then make cuts to education subsidies and grants!!!
    The Government cannot even upgrade their out of date Penalty mentality clauses built into their system/legislation!!!
    They have allowed Private Enterprise free reign in putting the price of Electricity, Gas, Water, and LAND up by more than DOUBLE the CPI every year since they sold ALL of it Off!!!
    It is inflation that is really killing our economy....eating into budgets....not just yours and mine....but also theirs...and also medicare!!!
    It is the rise and the rise of basic costs well above the CPI that is eroding away at everyone!
    Super Insurance went up by 25% in 2012-3....then again in 2014-5 by a whopping 35%......that's 60% in 4 Years.....absolutely ridiculous.
    In the last 10yrs everything has automatically risen by more than the CPI...including all Government charges and Fines....yet the Average Wage has not been granted an equivalent increase!!!
    Quite the Opposite in fact....Less than the CPI in most cases!!!
    How can anyone expect the worker to have anything left to purchase anything...including cheap imports....when year by year everyone is having their buying power reduced????
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:49am
    Wow! You're not senile yet! You've virtually hit every nail right on the head.
    Not Senile Yet!
    25th Apr 2015
    12:06am
    Further to the above....The Government is not protecting the Businesses from Cheap imports that no business in Australia can compete against.
    In third world economies.....there is no Legislation or Worksafe Rules.....it is a free for all...and most workers are on slave wages with non-existent regulated conditions!!!
    Businesses here cannot compete not only because of wages but also because of the sheer differences in scale of economy!!!
    30 million people in Oz is a small town in most Large Countries that have 300 to 500 Million population!!!
    The economy of scale alone makes it impossible to have FREE TRADE Deals....we are simply treated as a dumping ground!!!
    It is the Government Party Machines that need to become creative and stop doing secret deals that assist no-one and ultimately cause the erosion of their own tax income through los of jobs and wages tax as well as Company Tax!!!
    carmencita
    25th Apr 2015
    12:42am
    How could an academic make such broad statements. An academic is good for classroom theories. Ms Ley is just another stooge for this govt. Most times politicians make such broad statements to get what they want supposedly for the good of everyone. Nobody is reviewing their salaries and allowances. Perhaps it would be good to review if these allowances are used for the good of the community particularly those travels which includes members of MPs family on a free ride.
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:52am
    After reviewing the super tax subsidy situation - I've arrived at the radical conclusion that all these things are designed along Marcos lines to benefit cronies most.. with a few crumbs thrown to the peons to make it look good...
    Patriot
    25th Apr 2015
    7:14am
    TREBOR,
    If only the crumbs were "Tasty".
    TREBOR
    25th Apr 2015
    1:31am
    Let me see the list of sluggish and out-dated things that need to go......

    I'm afraid I'm suffering from a serious case of Hypotrustitis with this government...

    How much money are they going to throw at a few old party hacks and cronies to get this one sorted out along their already established party lines? The information is already available and could be put together by two clerks in the public service - no need to throw $1500 a day at six or seven old mates to organise the paper-clips.
    Renny
    25th Apr 2015
    7:47am
    Never let facts get in the way of a good whinge eh? Our health system is one of the lowest cost in the OECD. The American one a lot of RWNJ's want is not only extremely expensive but very inefficient. Medicare, with its mix of private and public is a model healthcare system that works. But as it's the ''me the bigot' time in Australia all you LNP supporters who are worried about losing even a smidgen of your privileged existence are on the best up again. This particular LNP government is the worst one to ever happen to Australia and the sooner their nasty narrow-minded IPA agenda is gone from this nation (end their chief pollies with it). The better it will be. When did Australuans stop caring about each other? Or have you nasty selfish haters always been here but kept invisible by decent policy on both sides of politics. I hope you weasels aren't taking part in ANZAC Day because most of those men we sent to war fit your disgusting definitions of the issues. Not caring about the underdog is so unAustralian. I'm with you Tom Tank. I don't believe anything this government says. They're fascists.
    Sum1
    25th Apr 2015
    12:26pm
    Renny...bigot...nasty selfish haters...weasels...privileged existence.... you sound so tolerant of others views.... ergo a labor Voter.
    pate
    25th Apr 2015
    8:11am
    Whether you believe Tony & Joe or the opposition it doesn't matter cause back in the 70's I was put into hospital & had an emergency operation even in those days the whole procedure would have cost thousands I didn't worry about money because we had membership in the H.C.F. & was well covered but to my surprise when I was released I got my husband to bring in our membership receipts to prove it & went to te office at the hospital to "pay" the bill. On you don't have to worry said the girl it is all taken care of.Medibank will pay us. Now I wish we could afford HCF but on a pension we can't. A lady I know iwould be covered by a fund which her husband pays into but she does not use it and although should pay for medical care her doctor says what for you might as well claim it on Medicare I make enough on that. I ask yoiu what is the use of Medicare when everybody is ripping it off.
    Radish
    26th Apr 2015
    5:22pm
    I think it is shocking that the taxpayer forks out just over $6 for a pensioner to get Panadol on a script when it can be bought for less over the counter.
    I can remember being written a script for eye drops by my eye specialist and being charged $11 at the pharmacy.
    The next time I went to get some I saw them on the shelf for $6.20 so I tore up the script and bought them that way.
    KSS
    26th Apr 2015
    6:51pm
    Actually Radish, the cost to medicare for that paracetamol is almost $50. You can buy the exact same thing at a supermarket for under $2. So the pensioner themselves can save $4+ by this move. But just wait for the howls of protest.
    Radish
    29th Apr 2015
    10:10am
    The reason many will protest KSS is that once the level of $366 is reached for concession card holders their prescriptions then become "free".

    For those not on concession cards i.e. the general community, a level of $1454 has to be reached before your prescriptions become $6.10 each.



    a certain level re the cost of prescriptions they then become "free".
    Eileen
    27th Apr 2015
    1:17pm
    In spite of all the comments and discussion,Medicare has to be fiunded,I.e.paid for.
    If there is such a gigantic hole in the "Health Service/Medicare" budget the revenue has to be addressed.
    My thoughts are simple
    Add an extra .25 per cent to lowest income bracket that actually pay a Medicare levy
    Add an extra .5 per cent to the middle income group
    Add an extra 1 per cent to those on the higher incomes.
    Make the extra payment for those on the higher incomes who chose not to have Private Health Cover much higher and do something to make it more attractive for more people to take out cover.
    This means that the disadvantaged including most pensioners would not be affected and the increased cost of running our health services is spread fairly over those can only afford a little to those who can afford much more.
    just my thoughts
    pate
    27th Apr 2015
    3:35pm
    Eileen congratulations I think you have solved the problem, and actually i would like to suggest that they sack the so called treasurer who can't even add 1 + 1 to get 2.


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