Abbott to shirtfront Putin at G20

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Russian President Vladimir Putin will be attending the G20 summit in Brisbane next month and Prime Minister Tony Abbott told reporters on Monday that, “I am going to shirtfront Mr Putin – you bet I am – I am going to be saying to Mr Putin Australians were murdered, they were murdered by Russian backed rebels.” Mr Abbott’s comment is in regard to the shooting down of MH17, and is indicative of the growing tension between Australia and Russia.

Mr Abbott said he accepted Russia had not wanted the tragedy to occur, but that “we are very unhappy about this” and that “we now demand that you [Russia] fully co-operate with the criminal investigation”.

“There’ll be a lot of tough conversations with Russia and I suspect the conversation I have with Mr Putin will be the toughest conversation of all,” said Mr Abbott.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten was of the view that Mr Putin shouldn’t make the trip to Brisbane at all and that his attendance was “rubbing our faces” in the aftermath of MH17.

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Opinion: politicians united against Russia

In a rare showing of unity between the two major parties, both Mr Abbott and Mr Shorten have continued to speak out against the actions of Russia, surrounding its alleged involvement in the MH17 disaster, and the actions of the country post-disaster.

The scene is set for the G20 next month in Brisbane, and while I can’t picture Tony Abbott “shirtfronting” Mr Putin (an Australian rules football term for shoulder charging), I have no doubt that he will be loose-lipped in his talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin. It’s refreshing to see our politicians finally speaking out on the world stage, and condemning such actions, when in the past, we would have kept quiet to keep the peace.

Do you think Tony Abbott’s stance towards Russia and Mr Putin on this issue is in the best interest of the country? 

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    You could say diplomacy isn’t his strong point.

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      Well I think He is very Dopelomatic !!

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      perhaps its not his strong point, but i think he will be diplomatic. using strong words which he needs too. Cause this EX KGB man needs to be told, he may not take it on board, cause russians just are that way. Many just think they know it all! and can be rude, often tho through miscommunication.

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      With his ‘You bet you are’ comment (clearly talking to himself) on his remark yesterday about shirt-fronting the leader of another nation, and the absent-minded way he said it with his eyes full of the hundred yard stare – he’s clearly repeating the voices he’s hearing in his head. He’s insane.

      The only way to stop this is to ask the Queen’s representative in this country to use his powers to dismiss the government and order a fresh general election. This government is unaustralian, a disgrace and an international mockery. Enough is enough, people. We have to act now before it’s too late.

      https://www.communityrun.org/petitions/stop-this-government-s-madness

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      I agree completely, That our PM has no tact at all and spokes off his mouth when he should keep it shut ,
      Dotty

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      Not diplomatic? I guess that you one-eyed lot haven’t noticed the improved relations with Indonesia, Japan, India and China after the damage that Labor did to our relationships with these countries

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      Yes we did !! They all like the place that much now they are Buying it !! ..Great Salesman !!

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      Can’t help wondering what Jen, particolor, Coachman and Dotty would say to Putin were they the leader of Australia and speaking on behalf of the families who lost innocent loved ones murdered by a Russian supplied missile.

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      Menzies sold Iron to Japan if You want to go there !! And they gave it back with You know what on Darwin, Etc. !! .. I can think of Many other Irresponsible Acts that I don’t Condone either !! Who tells You what You can and cannot do with a Jar of Vaseline when You get it ??

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      What else would you expect from an oaf like our PM? This is why Tony Abbott is the worst PM I can remember…although Billy McMahon might be a close second. At least Billy had a moral code and some self control as well as knowing how to behave in the company of foreign dignitaries. Abbott has no idea. That is what oafs are like.

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      What else would you expect from an oaf like our PM? This is why Tony Abbott is the worst PM I can remember…although Billy McMahon might be a close second. At least Billy had a moral code and some self control as well as knowing how to behave in the company of foreign dignitaries. Abbott has no idea. That is what oafs are like.

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      Alzheimers has cut in. Help?

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      The Old Scientists were working on a cure for that Mick! But when they got back from Lunch they had Forgotten what they were working on ???

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      I don’t remember that either.

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      Whitlam takes the prize as the worst PM ever , the first to be dismissed …
      Second worse toss up between Gillard Rudd and Keating …

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      As for the best I would say Menzies Hawke and Howard in that order…

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      Pete: my recollection is that Kerr and Fraser plotted to throw out a democratically elected government because the establishment did not approve. What is yours?
      Your idolisation od Menzies and Howard are interesting. Whilst I was not interested in politics when Menzies was in I do recall that he was a royalty stage door Johnny. As for Howard he was, like Tony Abbott, the representative of the big end of town. Next you’ll say that Work Choices was a great policy. So why do you think that even Rupert Murdoch turned against the Howard government?
      You need to stop idolising those who do not deserve your loyalty and stop treating political parties like a football team. You may have the ‘flavour’ you prefer but just like a bad hamburger…..when it is time to change to KFC its time. Political parties only deserve our attention whilst they behave themselves and do a public good. This one is not doing that and the media demonization of the previous government should be seen in the light of what the big end of town wants (money) and what it is prepared to do to get it. Its not footie Pete!!

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      Pete: my recollection is that Kerr and Fraser plotted to throw out a democratically elected government because the establishment did not approve. What is yours?
      Your idolisation od Menzies and Howard are interesting. Whilst I was not interested in politics when Menzies was in I do recall that he was a royalty stage door Johnny. As for Howard he was, like Tony Abbott, the representative of the big end of town. Next you’ll say that Work Choices was a great policy. So why do you think that even Rupert Murdoch turned against the Howard government?
      You need to stop idolising those who do not deserve your loyalty and stop treating political parties like a football team. You may have the ‘flavour’ you prefer but just like a bad hamburger…..when it is time to change to KFC its time. Political parties only deserve our attention whilst they behave themselves and do a public good. This one is not doing that and the media demonization of the previous government should be seen in the light of what the big end of town wants (money) and what it is prepared to do to get it. Its not footie Pete!!

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    It is obviously a metaphor; whether used wisely is another matter!
    metaphor
    [met-uh-fawr, -fer]

    Examples
    Word Origin

    noun
    1.
    a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”.
    Compare mixed metaphor, simile (def 1).
    2.
    something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.

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    Tony Abbott is a simpleton who appeals to the simpleton voters in Australia, of which there are far too many, and usually right leaning. How could anyone think that Russia has been more cavalier with the use of arms and killing of innocents that the coalition of the willing, of which Tony and his like are major contributors. Yes, we lost people on a plane flying over a war zone (what the f…?) shot down by people with too much armament and feeling like potting off an attacking jet (oops, not a fighter jet). But what about Iraq – 800,000+ innocent people died there and are still dying at much more than 34 per day. And that illegal invasion has caused the whole mess in the Middle East, including the creation of ISIS which is now armed with the USA weapons left behind. Bring Putin on board, embrace him, get him to work with us, not ostracise him. He loves the ostracism from the West, it makes him more powerful internally. Give him no reason and the Russians no reason to fear us.

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      He is not a simpleton far from it but the sad thing about politicians is that they act they way they think the majority of Australians want or expect them to act. Politics is about the lowest common denominator unfortunately.

      I find it interesting that people are only too willing to criticise America or Australia post the event for war involvement but are only too willing to criticise the same countries if they don’t get involved.

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      Nobody Criticises Switzerland ??.. Do they !

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      Cricky, He is no simpleton that’s for sure. It is the act of a decent and courageous person who will disapprove of the murder of innocent people.

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      Hear hear to your comment Crickety

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      It is exactly what Putin needs, & by the look of Europe & the US, about the only place he’s going to get It.

      The milksop gently gently approach from what has to pass for leaders in Europe, & the idiot golf player the yanks somehow managed to saddle themselves with are never going to say boo.

      This has encouraged Putin to become increasingly adventurous. He has his hand on the valve to cut of the gas supply, Europe has become completely dependent on, with their stupid romance with wind & solar power.

      By pandering to their green ratbag fringe they have laid themselves at the mercy of Putin, & are now finding that is a commodity in very short supply, almost as short as their energy supply has become without Russian gas. & the nuclear some were stupid enough to turn off.

      You lot should thank god someone is prepared to stand up to the man.

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      Your Right ! Base Load Blav they call him !! Vee Haf a Vay of NOT Gassing You !!

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      “MR PUTIN !! In My Office, NOW !!!”

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    I wonder if He knows that Putin is a POLAR BEAR in Disguise ??

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    Frankly I am embarrassed by Abbots posturing on the world stage.
    he is almost as idiotic as Rudd was….
    I can just see Vladimir Putin having fits of laughter……and asking his aide: who is this dimwit Abbott????
    The last time Abbot and Julie Bishop criticized Putin, he retaliated by cutting off all australian pork imports, worth many millions of dollars to Aussie farmers!!!!!
    All he did is to hurt Australian Farmers!!! and he want to make Australia “open to business”??????
    Now Argentina and Brasil et al picked up those contracts……
    Well done Abbott !!!!!!

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    Australia acts like a barking dog on behalf of the USA. Why should we make the world our enemy? We started with China in the pretext of human rights and ending up with Russia under the pretext of its Ukrainian supporters shooting down MH17. So far no evidence for this. No evidence that Russia has any involvement in this terrorist act. It might be that the Ukrainian forces shooing the airliner to cause trouble for Russia.
    As for Putin, his fault is that he does not support the war the USA and its allies including Australia waging on the people of the Middle East. Hundreds of people in the region is being killed and forced to be refugees for the aim of the USA which is controlled by the Jewish lobby to safeguard and make secure the State of Israel despite the Israeli barbaric and continued occupation of Palestinian land. This occupation is the longest and most fascist and brutal in human history. Zionist fascist trends is to attack any country or any significant person who oppose its domination. Australia, is one of those country who is made to be slave to the Zionist agenda.
    Australia must and should pursue an independent foreign policy that is built on real peace, non-interference and non aligned.

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      Ah, but he’s nice to the Sri Lankan murderers.

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      Quote: Israeli barbaric and continued occupation of Palestinian land. This occupation is the longest and most fascist and brutal in human history. End Quote.

      During 1967, Egypt..Jordan, and Syria attacked Israel.

      Within six days, Israel had won a decisive land war. Israeli forces had taken control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem, from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria.

      Israel fought for survival, now Palestinians are crying foul, initiating rocket attacks and blaming the Jews for defending themselves.

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      Emps: Your reading of history needs revisiting. Israel had already plans in place for that attack. They did it in 1956 but were repulsed. Israel is built on expansion and occupation. Its DNA is terror and ethnic cleansing. Its policies is to expel all Palestinians and steal their homes. Palestinians treated as no human at all. Its a real apartheid state, and therefore should be boycotted and isolated. Between the lines you say that if you have enough military force its OK to invade other peoples’ land and keep it. How is this different to Nazi practice in the 1940s?

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      You only mention Nazi’s nas, muslims practise ethnic cleansing too, look at yugoslavia, they lived just fine until the country tried to stick up for themselves they let the muslims come in to live then they bred like mice, then were taken over and broken up. NO more yugoslavia. There are quiet a few countries that practise ethnic cleansing i suggest you do some more research?

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      Yes !! Look at Africa ? Step over someone’s Border there and You will get To To’d or something ??

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      There is an interesting article in the current New Dawn magazine (at most newsagents) Sept-Oct re MH17 and it looks like the Ukrainian government forces are to blame.

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      I don’t think it really matters now WHO Fired it ! ( My Sympathies) they are both Nut Cases !! Fighting over who knows what ?. But You Don’t Fly a Passenger Plane over A WAR !!

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      Spot on, nas43n. There’s no proof that Putin was responsible for the shooting down of the airliner over Ukraine. In fact there’s evidence suggesting that it might have been the Ukraine givernment side. I think it’s likely that it was a tragic accident, whoever was responsible. The crisis in Ukraine was almost certainly fomented by USA/NATO in violation of an agreement with Gorbachev. Abbott – and Shorten – can’t, however, wait to blame Putin, even though they have no evidence. As for Abbott saying he’s going to “shirtfront” Putin, what a novel way to conduct international diplomacy! Yep, threatening violence is sure to work.

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      ghoti,

      Seems to me that not only do you spend too much time listening to the rantings of Jackie Lambie, you also take her seriously.

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      The way the argument id flowing, I am surprised that our Lefties have failed to blame Abbott for shooting the airliner. Ghoti has pinned the blame on the U.S.of A. and seems to think Putin’s ambitions in the Ukraine have had nothing to do with the airliner’s being shot down. Try telling that to the families of the victims.

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      wally: I understand you have a pro Abbott leaning but please try to be factual. Calling those who see this government for what it is “lefties” is a cheap shot. Its not that people love Labor. Rather its that people see the corrupt nature of the leaders of the current government. This is something you do not want to see.
      I do agree with you with the rest of your post and as for the airline shot down I am all but certain that Putin did not order this and that it was a rogue operator who gave the order. But then Putin would have been behind the separatists. I mean he has to protect his gas interests because all of Europe are buying the product. And yes the families of the victims are the ones left with the results whilst Putin struts the world stage promoting his business interests.

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    I didn’t mean that Abbott has no brains, but his policies are those of a simpleton with no view to the future beyond the short term.
    Rudd did a lot for Australia, and if left to continue, we would not be in this pickle we now find ourselves in, with the lies about budget crisis and the cuts to those who can least afford it.

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      Yes ! He is just Good at leaving Himself Open to Ridicule !! Couldn’t He have just said.. “Ill have a word with the lad !”..??

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      Amazing how quickly our reputation and our sense of belief in our Government has crashed. We might not have liked the Labor Govt. but we at least knew they were doing their best for Australians. They were open and honest in comparison to the secrets and lies of this Government. This dangerous fool should be locked up for crimes against Australia.

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      Yes Cricky, If we still had Kevin calling the shots, we would owe even more $Billions to the Chinese and wind up like Greece. Who do you mean when you mention cuts to those who can least afford it? Are you talking about more boat people soaking up more taxpayers’ money that could be spent on health and aged pensioners? Or do you mean the extension of the “Bribe a Bludger for Votes Scheme” that throws money at those families that have three generations of unemployed people who have never paid taxes (except for booze, smokes and maybe petrol) have never held down a job and never will. I think I prefer the pickle we are now in compared to the pickle we would be in if Rudd were still in office.

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      Yes Cricky, If we still had Kevin calling the shots, we would owe even more $Billions to the Chinese and wind up like Greece. Who do you mean when you mention cuts to those who can least afford it? Are you talking about more boat people soaking up more taxpayers’ money that could be spent on health and aged pensioners? Or do you mean the extension of the “Bribe a Bludger for Votes Scheme” that throws money at those families that have three generations of unemployed people who have never paid taxes (except for booze, smokes and maybe petrol) have never held down a job and never will. I think I prefer the pickle we are now in compared to the pickle we would be in if Rudd were still in office.

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    Shirtfronting. Never heard that word before. I have heard of shirtlifting. let the jokes begin.

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    My cousin in the UK asked me is Abbott as stupid as he looks, I replied even more so! Abbott has made Australia the laughing stock of the World.

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    Only way to settle this both wearing speedos and a ride off around the gold coast.all proceeds to charity.

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