The PM, the Press Club & pensions

PM faces National Press Club to spell out agenda for families and small business.

The PM, the Press Club & pensions

Yesterday, beleaguered Prime Minister Tony Abbott fronted the National Press Club to spell out his policies and strategy for the coming year. In the wake of a massive election defeat in Queensland, the Prime Minister took the chance to accept responsibility for some political misjudgements – particularly the so-called ‘captain’s pick’ of Prince Philip for an Australia Day knighthood and also his need to be more consultative with political colleagues. A Fairfax-Ipsos poll on the same day showed the fortunes of the Liberal Coalition government had fallen to their all-time low in the two-party preferred vote – 44 per cent supporting the Coalition compared to 56 per cent for Labor.

Mr Abbott commenced his speech to the National Press Club by saying he had spent the summer talking to Australians from all walks of life as well as his colleagues. He then went on to paint a picture of an uncertain world and the need for a stronger economy. Indeed he liked the word ‘strong’ so much, as one commentator noted, he used it 14 times. Mr Abbott claimed that a stronger economy:

“ …helps everyone who’s doing it tough” including:

  • parents wrestling with school fees and health costs;
  • small business people anxious to keep their staff;
  • seniors whose superannuation has to fund their retirement;
  • volunteers wondering if they can still afford to serve the community; and
  • young people looking for their first job and their first home.

He then outlined some specific policies intended to help achieve such economic strength, including the ditching of his much loved Paid Parental Leave (PPL) scheme in favour of more affordable childcare, a tax cut for small businesses and more general tax reform.

Mr Abbott finished his speech with a plea to be allowed to deliver the “stable government that you elected us to be just 16 months ago”, in order to ensure “hope, reward and opportunity”.

Read the full transcript at TheAustralian.com.au

Opinion: Don’t mention pension cuts?

Yesterday the PM’s National Press Club mea culpa canvassed most of the big issues swirling around federal politics this week. The silly ‘captain’s picks’ by a (now) contrite PM who is desperately eager to consult more with his colleagues. The disaster of the Queensland State Election is a visual reminder to all federal politicians how quickly an annoyed electorate will vote them out. A new, more popular tilt at providing affordable childcare for ALL rather than welfare for the well-off as mooted in the PPL. And an incentive in the form of a tax break for all small business owners.

To date, the Abbott Government has struggled to get its key legislation through the Senate. In particular changes to education, health, (particularly Medicare) and financial services regulations have been seen as a reversal of fundamental policy statements on the eve of the 2013 election. And so they still wait to be voted into law, with a volatile crossbench seemingly unable to be coerced to help. The same can be said for the proposed Age Pension changes, yet to pass the Senate. The PM stated, categorically, the night before he was elected that there would be no cuts to pensions. Yet the 2014/15 Budget contained proposals to cut the rate of indexation of pensions (ultimately costing pensioners $80 per week according to the Australian Council of Social Services) and to raise the pension eligibility age from 67 to 70.

Given the back down on key elements of health policy, the PPL and the stalling of higher education measures, it is fair to ask what is happening with the proposed changes to the pension. And it is on this subject the Government has gone ominously quiet. The incoming Minister for Social Services is Scott Morrison. His track record in the immigration portfolio is formidable. He is one of the few Abbott Government ministers to successfully push through radical reform, albeit with very questionable human rights issues. So it’s time for those on an Age Pension to be afraid – very afraid. The toughest minister in the cabinet is in charge of steering through legislation to reduce the pension.

Today the PM has declared his concern for Australian families and Australian small business. He mentioned senior Australians whose superannuation will fund their retirement. But not one word was said about those on pensions. We could be forgiven for believing this is because Mr Morrison will make these cuts his first priority. In the rush to come up with new policies for families and small business in order to save his own leadership, the PM seems to have made yet another major blunder. Older Australians have slipped off the agenda while pension cuts are set to roll, there are a LOT of older Australian voters and their voices will be heard, loud and clear, if they believe their needs have been overlooked.

Read more about the planned pension cuts and our petition to protect the Age Pension here.

What do you think? Did the PM’s National Press Club speech impress you? Are you concerned if the focus is on families and small business? Will the proposed Age Pension changes successfully pass through the Senate?





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    Mrw
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:02am
    His speech was About Abbott, not Australia. The blind ideology slightly singed by his need to defend his presidency (sorry, that just slipped out. I can't think why). Still no conception of human rights abuses, still unable to see his inability to understand settled science, still killing off science and community law at every opportunity. Not even able to see that this has steadily destroyed his personal credibility let alone his very questionable judgement. Expect anothe work choices style of carefully stacked and probably non transparent IPA -drafted policies attacking pensions Medicare etc etc. don't hold your breath for pensions. Expect all elderly to be lumped into a single dependency cost (ignoring the high powered young old up to about 75 widely recognized by gerontologists as a huge positive but unpaid force for good). Please, prove me wrong!
    Dotty
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:27pm
    I agree with you entirely ! It is always about Tony Abbott and not what he was Elected to do ! Dotty
    Jackie
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:24pm
    It was all about him, as usual. And he virtually threatened his cabinet to behave, or else. I didnt get any vision or plan, just the same old, same old. Must think we are stupid - we just want an election DQ (double quick) and give him the surprise of his life.
    Travellersjoy
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:37am
    The LNP is the last place pensioners should look for a decent standard of living.

    They are the Party of the 1% (IPA stooges), and have no idea how the rest of Australia lives - or survives - and could care less, so long as our national wealth gushes upwards.

    Pensioners need to look elsewhere for civil society, respect, and consideration, because Abbot, Morrison, et al come from the Ayn Rand school of ideological stupidity. Ideological because when she was broke Rand lived off a state pension she had spent decades preaching against.

    Work 'til you drop people, or vote for someone else.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:52am
    I agree. I watched Morrison do a good imitation of Joseph Goebbels on the 7:30 Report last night. And this is one of the people being considered as the preplacement for Tony Abbott.
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:25am
    Morrison made short work of the leading questions that Ms Sales asked him. It was refreshing to see his gloves off approach which left he looking like a stunned mullet by the time the interview was over. It was good to see someone turn the tables on the smug sanctimonious and self righteous ABC lefties for a change. I wonder when Morrison will appear of Q & A.
    retroy
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:20pm
    I wish I had seen it but perhaps I can see it when it comes on "iview".
    That will enable me to further evaluate the trollish hyperbole remark above.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:01pm
    wally: this government is used to dishing it out. It comes as unnatural to any of them when they are asked to account. I recall Greg Hunt arrogantly crying the "you have high electricity prices bacause of the Carbon Tax" (a lie) one time too ogten and Tony Jones actually openly laughed at Hunt in front of the camera. After that Hunt never again repeated that dishonest crap.
    retroy
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:51pm
    I have now seen the 7:30 report and hyperbole does not adequately describe the comment.
    Goebbels indeed.
    What one eyed twaddle comes from a self professed independent thinker.
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:56pm
    In every interview I have seen with Scott Morrison he is always in control and never appears intimidated to me
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:11pm
    Morrison is cock sure but I thought that he a bit rattled and taken back that anybody could dare to disagree with this government. But then that has been the deal since day 1: do as I say not as I do!
    TREBOR
    4th Feb 2015
    6:10am
    The reasons behind high costs of electricity etc are, from many, many sources, fairly and squarely with 'privatisation' and the multiplication of pay for multiple service providers.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:35am
    mick, because that Tony Jones laughed out loud at Greg Hunt only proves my point about the smug, self righteous and disrespectful attitude that Jones and his ilk in the ABC (Another Bunch of Communists) have and blatantly display toward the LNP and its ministers. Only Malcolm Turnbull appears to be spared this sort of crap when he appears on the ABC. But then he is suspected of being a "closet Labor man" anyway and is only in the Liberal Party because that was the only seat he would have a chance of winning. Sort of like a rat in cat's clothing.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    11:45am
    Good Grief !! Its getting worse !! Now we've got Malcolm Rat ??
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    5:39pm
    I've still got my Mickey Rat T shirt from the '80s. Do you think Malcolm might like it?
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    7:45pm
    My mates got a SHAME FRAZER SHAME one that I see every now and then !, :-)
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    12:45pm
    I could use a Shame Frazer t shirt myself. And I'll bet John Howard and Tony Abbott would like to have a couple too, in view of what Big Mal's verbal gastric outbursts have been over the last few years.
    LENYJAC
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:42am
    THIS SELF CENTERED CLOWN SHOULD STOP (THE DOWN ON) US SENIORS AND LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO "NO MORE NEWMAN"
    Ming
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:48am
    We look forward now that the inmates look like getting the keys to the institution. They did not do too good last time. How do you suggest the state debt be cleared, or is this something that we created in our generation but the next generation can worry about it.
    Jen
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:54am
    Ming, not by simplistic household budgetary measures, that's for sure. Austerity is slowing this country to a halt, apart from the harm it's doing to the people. Look at how much debt we have now, despite all the cuts! And Abbott's going to spend $20 billion on Japanese made submarines. But he won't, because he and his party's not going to be around long enough to do that damage, with a bit of luck.
    KSS
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:59am
    What cuts would those be Jen? Given the Senate has not passed any of them.
    Jen
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:23am
    How many hundred examples would you like KSS?

    http://sallymcmanus.net/abbotts-wreckage/
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:29am
    Is Jen suggesting that the Senate has been obstructing Abbott's proposals hundreds of times?
    doclisa
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:58am
    Wally..what is obstructing, and what is good governance. Most of their attempts at legislation go directly against all the evidence that austerity budgets do not work.
    I think the people and the government has been grossly mislead by the political promises not kept, and the surplus or deficit is not really an issue, that is just crap economics on behalf of the government. He has closed down jobs in the manufacturing industry and the public service, he is attempting to decimate our education system and make sure that the youth of today will never be able to get a full education. He is trying to sell our Medicare system to the rich, after we have built it up, made it something that works for the benefit of the many. All of this work and cost will be lost when he sells this public benefit as a mere service industry to pay for subamrine to be built in Japan. Really. what is obstructing!
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:40pm
    Doclisa, obstruction in my dictionary is defined as blocking. Whether or not this is good governance is a matter of opinion. If, as you say, the debt owed to the Chinese is not an issue, I would suggest you tell that to the Chinese and that Australia is not going to pay another brass razoo. What do you think the Chinese reaction to that would be? Are you trying to pin the blame for the closure of Ford, Holden and Toyota's cap factories onTony Abbott? As far as a gratuitous attempt to ruin an Australian export industry, look no further than Julia Gillard's Live Cattle Export Ban to Indonesia. That nearly ended cattle sales and resulted in the shooting of cattle that could not be sold and their owners could not afford to feed.
    Well might you mention the lack of money and the resultant cuts to Medicare and educational grants. If Australia was not obliged to pay $11 Billion per year to China as interest on Labor's debts, that $11 billion could be spent on the programs you mention. So do you stick your head in the sand and pretend the debt does not matter until the International Monetary Fund steps in as it has in Greece?
    Why are Mr. Shorten and his Senate cronies blocking and thwarting Abbott's efforts to repay the debt to China? Is Abbott or is Shorten promoting policies that will benefit Australia in the future?
    Hawkeye
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:00pm
    Wally, say what you will about the Senate blocking (your words), but the fact is that the Senate is a house of review, and they are elected and paid to do just that. On review, if a piece of legislation is found lacking, then they MUST reject it. That is simply what they are supposed to do.
    IT IS CALLED DEMOCRACY.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:08pm
    Jen: Add in the new jet fighters...which have a poor track record from what I have read.

    wally: if you want to discuss "onstruction" then remember that Abbott voted against EVERYTHING that ever came from Labor. The only Bill he supported was a payrise for federal MPs. The current opposition has NOT opposed everything but selectively opposed legislation. This is what any government working in the intersts of the nation as a whole would do. It serves nobody to have an opposition which vetoes everything and this is simply a tactic to get hold of the reigns of power by claiming bad government when the reality may not be the case.
    I know you have a leaning towards this government but you have to be fair and realise that there are a lot of facets to what a good government and treachery against the nation is not one of them. I don't care who it is but if you intnetionally drag a nation into the gutter then you have no place serving in government. This is the sort of behaviour of traitors, not governments.
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:56pm
    Wally the live export trade has to be shut down and for good I don't care from which side of politics. Farmers are trying to raise animals on land that it not suitable, so they go under, tough! But this vile trade has to stop!!
    Jen
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:16pm
    You're so right trood. Very few put that as a priority, but any party that supports live export is not showing they've yet joined the 21st century. We're supposed to be moving forward in civilisation. There is nothing civilised about live export and I would never give my vote to a party that supports it.
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:29pm
    We seem to forget our "ELECTED" upper house was put there for a reason. A house of review. Also for the same reason senators were overlapped to try and prevent a government from having total control over the states.

    You can see what happened in Queensland when a one term government had total control without a Senate. They can virtually pass anything even restrict freedoms.

    I know that having a Senate is extra costs but what is the price of freedom. Our soldiers died for freedom in the past. One can say this was the ultimate price.

    You can just imagine what this government would have done if there was no Senate.

    Getting rid off the Senate is a politicians dream especially a heavily ideological one. Don't go that way people.
    Kato
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:31pm
    Wally Tony Abbott was not called Dr No for nothing when in opposition he opposed everything put before him to the detriment of Australia and it's people. ask him why the debt and deficit he helped create is worse now.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:15pm
    Kato: True...but Abbott voted for a payrise. Funny how he could support that.
    I just finished watching 7:30 Report tonight. Peter Dutton, an Abbott cronie if ever there was one, was crowing about "saboutage" and a "fair go". So when did this government and its leader EVER give the previous government a fair go let alone not saboutage it. Annd to boot I have not heard an attack on this government based on teh sex of its leader.
    It strikes me as bizarre that this government of all governments is complaining about unfair treatment. What hypochrisy.
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:51pm
    We all know what Abbott stands for, but what does Shorten stand for? Does the opposition believe that by blocking and interfering with Abbott's efforts to repay Australia's budget debt they are acting in Australia's best interest? How does this policy of obstruction advance Australia's best interest? Or is Labor just cranky because Abbott and the LNP upset their applecart and regained control of the government and their actions are motivated by spite and a desire for payback?
    Abby
    7th Feb 2015
    6:00pm
    There is moves ahead to have Shorten charged with rape which will do nothing for ALP cause
    particolor
    7th Feb 2015
    6:22pm
    OH ! BOY !! The Return of The Slipper ??
    particolor
    7th Feb 2015
    6:35pm
    Either get a Fine Tooth Comb and go through the WHOLE BLOODY LOT of them ,Their Past History right down to the Finest Particle of Dust ! OR Sack the Bloody Lot of them and Start again With Fresh Angels Who have been Subject to the Above Scrutiny before even Bothering to Swear them in !! ..
    Ming
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:42am
    This website is symptomatic of the media in general. Always stirring up fear among people particularly the old. Never focusing on the debt of the nation, for which we pat $1,000,000 per month in interest. No government is going to see the older generation denied sufficient to live a good life. However unless the wasteful spending is brought under control the young people of today will have a monumental task when they are in their sunset years. It would be more appropriate if the media was to recognise that there is a looming problem and put forward suggestions to alleviate the problem instead of frightening people.
    Helen-gran
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:27am
    Well said Ming. When you see the damage, negativity & propaganda fed to us by the media, you start to believe in much less "freedom of the press".
    Jen
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:55am
    Oh that's funny! ^^^
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:57am
    Ming: you make no mention f the $8 a year, every year, which taxpayers are now paying to the fossil fuel industries. This was the result the industry helping to elect this government and the repeal of a perfectly good and well accepted Carbon Tax.
    And whilst you are on teh debt you make no mention about the fact that Australians kept their jobs during the GFC when in the rest of the world they were sacked.
    And last of all you omit that fact that this government has been after workers to repay the debt whilst the big end of town is exempt.
    Lets call a spade a spade. "Debt" may be but the game at hand needs to be the issue and WHO this government is governing for....and it certainly is not average Australians.
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:04pm
    Mick, as a self proclaimed non supporter of any political party, I am surprised to see you fall for the Liar Party's line that Kevin 07 saved everybody's job. In fact it was the Chinese and Indians buying all of the coal and iron ore Australia could dig up that kept the Australian economy afloat. Those exports kept Australia's export income, and the tax revenue they generated, going and to ride out the worst of the GFC.
    As far as the Carbon Tax and the Mining Tax are concerned, they represent the best efforts of Julia Gillard to sabotage the Australian economy by damaging Australia's export industries. The Live Cattle Export Ban to Indonesia nearly wrecked that industry and wound up throwing a lot of workers in the livestock industry (including Aboriginal workers) on the industrial scrap heap.
    As far as your assertion that Abbott wants to tax the working stiff so he can let the rich people off tax free (when he is not throwing tax payers' dollars at them) overlooks the fact that Gina Reinhart and other mining magnates have provided jobs for those in the mining industry. I do not think anybody working in a coal mine is crying about that as bitterly as you are.
    You might also remind your self that due to Kevin 07's efforts to save us all from the GFC and other Labor calamities, the budget surplus his government inherited was squandered and by 2013 Australia owed hundreds of Billions to China. Further, it costs Australia $11 Billion a year just to service the interest owed on that debt, to say nothing of reducing that debt itself. So how do you think Australia is going to repay that debt?
    If you got your $900 stimulus payment, free pink batts, a tv set top box and maybe a chance to pay for the NBN when it comes to your neighbourhood, are you going to thank Kevin, Julia and the Labor Party? You should be thanking your children and grandchildren because their tax dollars are going to pay for the handouts you got as well as all the other money Labor threw around willy nilly.
    Do you think Bill Shorten will be a better economic manager than the 3 Labor stooges Kevin, Julia and Wayne Swan if he becomes PM in 2016? Do you think he will do a better job of reducing the debt than Tony Abbott? Or will Shorten stick his head in ...........and pretend it doesn't exist.
    BTW, what ever happened to Australia's budget surplus that Cosello gave us in 2013? You do not say.
    Misty
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:19pm
    Ming with a government like the one we have now people, or should I say some people, because there are a few commenting on here who either have their heads in the sand, are deaf, cannot read, wear blinkers and live in Ivory Towers and obviously have no fear, but the rest of us who live in the REAL WORLD have very good reasons to be afraid of those in government, Federally at least.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:11pm
    wally: whilst you are right about how Australians were not thrown on the scrapheap you miss the point I was making. Neither YOU nor YOUR FAMILY lost their homes during the GFC because anybody working before it hit continued to work after. That is the issue!
    Debt is nver real flash be it personal or government but sometines debt is a short term necessary evil.
    So whilst you attack the previous governments you need to get a bit of perspective mate. At least the previous governments never came after average Australians whilst delivering the rich a tax cut. That is what is truly evil.
    Patriot
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:29pm
    Touche - Misty & mick
    And don't forget the $8.8 billion that Joe donated to his banking MATES - The Reserve Bank which is NOT OWNED by US but by the International bankers !!!
    The private wealth of the Hockey family is an estimated $10 million (all belongs to his wife - of course - Joe is penniless).
    Joe's wife - millionaire banker Melissa Babbage - was an executive banker with Deutsche Bank

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724463/nside-privileged-life-Joe-Hockey-doesnt-think-poor-people-drive-cars.html

    This could explain why the Top End of Town gets treated so well !?!?!?!?!?
    Rod63
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:30pm
    " they represent the best efforts of Julia Gillard to sabotage the Australian economy by damaging Australia's export industries."

    What rubbish.

    You've just lost any credibility you had, Wally.
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:02pm
    Yes, 1 million a month in interest....that is not chicken feed.
    I honestly think many people in this country think there is a bottomless pit of money.
    Kato
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:39pm
    Radish me thinks it was the pollies who thought mining was the bottomless pit? the problem with that is they are all bereft of ideas to sustain the Country into the future.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:18pm
    The same old chestnuts which ignore CONTEXT to sell the "interest" picture. What these posters never mention is the $50 billion debt THIS GOVERNMENT has run up and the fact that THIS GOVERNMENT has removed the Debt Ceiling so that it can borrow on forever. That is the game plan.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:00am
    Mick, I agree that when we get into debt as a short time proposition, it is indeed a necessary evil. But how do you define what a short term period of indebtedness means? This is drifting into a discussion about how long pieces of string may or may not be, but it should be made clear what sort of timeframe exists for repaying the debt. Abbott appears to be trying to find ways of reducing government cost and wasteful spending, but it seems that Labor and their mates in the Senate are doing their best to sabotage these efforts. And for what purpose? Do they really think that they are acting in the best interests of the Australian public?
    Theo1943
    4th Feb 2015
    1:36am
    A Million Dollars a month? Wow!That's like 4 cents each. That's terrible. How can I possibly afford that?
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:38am
    Theo, polish up your specs. The interest paid to China to service the ALP debt they saddled the Abbott government with is $11BILLION a year, not the million a month you posted.
    Anonymous
    4th Feb 2015
    4:37pm
    It appears to me that very few on this site are at all concerned about the huge debt we have to repay....sometimes we have to look beyond our personal wants and look at the good of the country as a whole.

    Living beyond a country's means can have disastrous results...look at Greece!!
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    4:47pm
    I was thinking about going there to live ! But I noticed they have a worse Funny Immigrant Problem than us ??..
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    4:49pm
    Hey Mate ---- The interest is one billion a month. $1,000,000,000 How does that look ????? We better start digging holes in the ground and hope we strike pay dirt or we won't be the lucky country any more.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    5:42pm
    The book The Lucky Country was written before Gough became PM.
    Anonymous
    5th Feb 2015
    1:16pm
    OOps that is correct 1 billion a month not a million.
    I heard that works out at $25,000 for every person in Australia.
    The debt bill is going to be raised another $40 billion apparently due to falling commodity prices etc.
    That is why we MUST get this debt paid off quickly.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    2:08pm
    Don't look at Me, I'm as Broke as a Stone ?? :-( ,,,
    Importing all those Goat Farmers cost us more than that ??
    PlanB
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:49am
    The speech Abbott gave was all about him and his terror of loosing the top job, he never answered and questions put to him after the speech and we could tell that the Journalists were NOT at all impressed with him.

    I am sick to death of him repeating himself and waving his hands around and also sick of his sporting analergies, i fact I am sick to death of HIM!
    disillusioned
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:05am
    And I'm sick of him owning up to or saying sorry for something he has already done. It is his mantra and how he deals with everything - he doesn't care so long as he gets his way. He is a disgrace.
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:07pm
    Disillusioned, do you go around apologising for things you haven't done yet? If you do, it must be very tiresome for you.
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:58pm
    Well said plan B, same old, same old bullshit he has been spruiking all along, the sooner the LNP see the light and dump this donkey the better
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:14pm
    PlanB Well at least He's given up fencing !! He's put the Knighting Sword away !! Or so He sais ?? ..Another Broken Promise coming up !!..
    Strummer
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:50am
    Abbott berated Gillard for her entire premiership about lying to obtain power, he then proceeded to do exactly the same thing in order to gain power for himself. Nothing this man says can be believed. His ego won't let him jump and his party hasn't got the nerve (remember the Costello / Howard circus) to dump him so I guess we're stuck with him for another 18 months. Bugger
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:58am
    Abbott lied. Gillard was his scapegoat. Now that he is PM different rules apply. I am not having a bar of that!
    tia-maria
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:55pm
    jarker, yes mate your right........and I am sitting back watching PM Abbott getting what he deserves...........
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:45pm
    I'm waiting for... The Lesser Of Two Evils Party... to comment now ?? :-)
    bebby
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:52pm
    jaker and tia-maria, I believe it's called Karma.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:54am
    Karma sure caught up with Julia andKevin07 big time!
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    12:17pm
    I think some of You lot would Drag Billy Hughes back on stage and Blame Him for Something if You could ?? :-(
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    5:55pm
    Billy Hughes? He had a shifty look about him and that's enough to hate him for!
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    2:14pm
    Shifty aint a Patch on Beady Eyed !! :-)
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:53am
    I saw a lot more in this speech than met the eye.
    The first thing was self protection with Abbott's attempt to snooker his colleagues with talk about the previous government dismissing elected PMs and hinting that this sort of destabilisation does not happen on the conservative side of politics.
    The second was Abbott's attempt to say he has changed, that he was listening and that he cared about average Australians. The next set of lies as this spotted dog will never change and is still the servant of big business working for big business. Average Australians should expect continued attacks.
    Wayne Swan said it all on Q&A last night when he called the Abbott government a "wholly owned subsidiary of Newscorp" ie the Murdoch Press.
    So if voters think that this despot is going to care about them in the future then voters clearly believe that the pope is not a catholic. Abbott used to be a convincing liar but he has now reached the same point in time that most of our recent PMs reach: when it is time to go they refuse to leave and have to be dragged out. Personally, given that the paid government trolls have stopped supporting Abbott on this website I believe that the decision has been made. Given the faces of Abbott's colleagues at the speech yesterday how could anybody think otherwise. We'll see.
    PlanB
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:05am
    Yes Mick I saw in a few things he --Abbott --said about & to his party members, and it was almost a threat, although subtle , against them throwing him out, he is terrified of this happening and it would really hurt his Narcissistic ego
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:16pm
    Nice to see your report of Wayne Swan's gassing on about how Rupert owns Abbot and the LNP.
    Do you remember Wayne Swan's performances as treasurer in announcing budget surpluses year after year (that just as predictably evaporated except as figments in Wayne's imagination) that ender in 2013 with Australia in debt to China to the tune of hundreds of Billions of dollars? If you do, how can you give any credence to anything that Wayne Swan says?
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:14pm
    After the election Abbott went straight to Murdoch HQ. Servant reporting to master. Swan has got it right.
    Hundreds of billions of dollars of debt to China? Really? Can you give me your sources wally?
    Hightower
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:13pm
    Thank God for Rupert! Somebody's got to provide some balance to the drivel that comes out of Fairfax and the ABC
    retroy
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:23pm
    I recall Krudd in a photo walking down the street in NY with Rupert after their lunch date.
    Jen
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:24pm
    Rupert Murdoch should be given no credence whatsoever in Australian politics. He's not even Australian. Does the owner of Microsoft or any other big business meddle in our politics? No, we wouldn't stand for it! But Murdoch meddles constantly. Anyone who buys his rags deserves the Government we've got.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:32pm
    Thanks God for Rupert????? Are we referring to the man who sold out his heritage to become and American and now dictates to Australiana? So what is so wonderful about this man? News of the World??? That's the publication which tapped the phones of the royals and everybody else of interest.
    The Murdoch empire is a business which behaves outside of the laws of the land and which is of the opinion that its head can elect whatever PM HE WANTS. I find that offensive and wrong.
    The sooner Murdoch gets out of politics and sticks to honest journalism the better for th enation.
    Kato
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:57pm
    Just you watch out Rupert will have you on his twitter.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:09am
    mick, are you in denial about Australia's debt to China? Why is Australia obliged to pay $11 Billion annually just to pay the interest on the loan? Would you prefer to have the IMF step in to take over Australia's debt problem (should Australia default or repaying the debt) the way it has with Greece? Or does Shorten and his Labor cronies hope to gain political mileage should their efforts in the Senate result in Australia defaulting on the loan and bringing down the wrath of the IMF on Australia?
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:42am
    PS to mick. When you say you saw more in Tony Abbott's speech, was that you typing that statement or was it the funny hallucinatory mushrooms you've been gorging yourself on?
    Anonymous
    7th Feb 2015
    6:22pm
    Wally, there is no debt...what on earth are you talking about;),
    If another financial crisis hits we just borrow more money, easy peasy.
    pate
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:08am
    You should have heard the rude creature when a certain journo who was interviewing him asked if he knew of any of his own party who would be willing to take on the job of PM. Ha ha!!
    PlanB
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:13am
    Yes saw that too Pate.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:00am
    Missed that one but I recall that Abbott was very rude to a journo who interviewed him last year when he thought he was off air. He wasn't. And the journo ran a fair and courteous interview and did not deserve what she got.
    wally
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:21pm
    Considering the unending barrage of innuendo and leading questions the government ministers get from ABC journos and their imitators in the media, (contrasting sharply with the sycophantic, toadying questioning style accorded to Green and Labor politicians get from these same people) it is no wonder that Morrison, Abbott and others lose their patience with them.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:20pm
    wally: you are such a one eyed dead loss. Sorry.

    The whole point about the ABC is that it ATTACKS BOTH SIDES. The problem with you and your hero (Tony Abbott) is that neither of you can handle being put on the spot.
    What you never address is that the election campaign which put Abbott into office was a propaganda campaign which was totally one sided and only ever attacked the sitting government, never the opposition. I never saw you squealing about how unfair the ABC was at that time.
    So get real, please. The ABC and SBS are the only two broadcasters who do not take sides...despite those who cannot handle the heat claiming the opposite.
    But don't worry wally, Abbott cut their funding and tried to put the ABC out of business. That was after he muted selling the ABC off to a commercial interest.
    If you cannot see the forest for the trees then you need a reality check.
    *Imagine*
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:04pm
    I think that Joe the treasurer was let off lightly on Radio National AM this morning. The ABC were much kinder than I would have been. He was all but taking credit for low fuel prices and how it is good for the economy and how it is equal to a couple of rate cuts in value. This from the same brain that just regulated a rise in the fuel tax, making fuel more expensive (except for those who can’t afford to drive remember.)
    Was this really a news item, or was it political satire? I Imagine our leaders think that we are all uneducated idiots. Well that is on the cards too, isn’t it?
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:49pm
    And remember the fuel tax is a monetary value not a percentage. The actual cost of fuel could go down to one cent but the final price would be still 39 cents because of the tax. Sorry a bit of mistake there. GST is also levied on top so make that 43 cents.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:12am
    mick, the ABC might attack both sides of politics, as you say, but they seem to be attacking Labor and the Greenies with a wet noodle and using a claw hammer on the LNP.
    Ausdigga
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:39am
    Regarding the thirty first award to Phil the Greek, sycophantic suckhole were the first words that sprung to my mind !
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:54pm
    He deserved better !
    TREBOR
    4th Feb 2015
    6:12am
    I agree - I'm sure I could find a better term than 'sycophantic suckole'....
    Gee Whiz
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:42am
    Tony Abbot talked for a long time, and apart from dumping the billion dollar paid parental scheme said very little. There was nothing in there for the pensioners and the less well off in society.

    It really was about Abbott saying sorry for his blunders ,without actually saying sorry.

    And this horrible habit he has of repeating everything he says is enough to drive everyone crazy. He needs the help of a good speech therapist.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:01am
    It was another despicable speech from a totally discredited man. I wonder what the gen Ys who elected him for the PPL are going to do now?
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:58pm
    Bring up their own Kids like We had to do, I think !!
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:21pm
    Agree particolor. There is a view amongst genYs that the state should pay for their children to be minded. Why? Can I get the state to mind my house when I go overseas?
    Taxpayers are not responsible for looking after the children of working mothers. Whilst I understand the problem this needs to be resovled in other ways, not by dumping the kids onto the state.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:52am
    The entitlement mentality that infects so many Australians today is a legacy left over from the policies of Gough Whitlam when he convinced himself he was Santa Claus. It is and was especially pernicious when Gough used the taxpayers money to fund all of his schemes.
    Jen
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:48am
    Same old, same old. With every multi-repeated three word slogan, my eyes glazed over more with the sure knowledge that the more he repeats, the less truth there is in his words. The assurances of listening to the people immediately negated by his assurances that he will keep battling on because he knows what's best for Australia. Yair right! And for those hoping for a change of leadership: Bill Shorten got it right for once. It's not the salesperson, it's the product. We don't want your unjust policies. We don't want your cruelty. We don't want your austerity (we'd prefer to kick start Australia, not slow it to a crawl.) We never asked for lies, lies and more lies. We deserve better!
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    5:52pm
    And what exactly does Bill Shorten have in store for us should he become PM in 2016? And what do you have in mind for kick starting Australia, if, as our Labor posters tell us, Australia is doing just fine?
    Tigers
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:59am
    Nothing this man does impresses me. A resignation, now THAT would impress me, but he's too much an egomaniac to do that. The more I see of this bloke, the more I see how much like Kevin007 and Juliar he is.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    9:41am
    You don't go to the First Aid + Cabinet for a packet of Band Aids on a Sinking Ship
    Jurassicgeek
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:00am
    it was Abbott saying"please dont sack me" he will be a 1 term wonder ..just like newman
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:04am
    I recall the words of Gough Whitlam: "they may well say God save the Queen, but nothing will save...." Tony Abbott?
    I make the call that Abbott will be replaced. Quite apart from his unpopularity the paid Government trolls who post on this site have dosappeared. I would suggest that this is so as to not support somebody who has already been marked for redundancy.
    Sceptic
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:46pm
    And remember what followed for Gough. Two landslide defeats at the polls.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:21pm
    True...brought on by the media...to give th evested interests their government. That worked!
    Sceptic
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:22pm
    Give it a break Mick. Brought on by the media???? The man was a disaster for the country and if he had stayed in power we would have been in hock to the Arabs. Give the electorate some credence.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:39pm
    Sceptic: Obviously you have forgotten that for 2 years before the election this government could do not wrong.
    You have forgotten the witch hunt against Peter Slipper, Julia Gillard and others whilst not a mention of the coalition even though Tony Abbott had similar travel rorts to Slipper. Abbott got ONE QUESTION from the ABC (that's the apparent biased ABC) and that was it. Slipper gots months and it is still going on.
    And now in recent times when state liberal was caught out with fraudulent election funding the government is exempt because, surprise surprise, there is no federal ICAC.
    If you think that the media is not actively electing governments then you are ignoring the history and the obvious facts.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:57am
    mick, move to 2015, God might save the Queen and defend New Zealand, but do you think Rupee Rupert will save Tony Abbott?
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    6:00pm
    And who will save Australia?
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    7:54pm
    Wasn't the Dude with the Cigar Elected to do that ?
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    12:51pm
    parti, didn't you mention in your earlier post about using band aids to patch a sinking ship?
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    2:18pm
    NO ! I said they are as Useless as Pocket in the Bottom of Your Sock !! :-()
    ballaratboy
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:42am
    After reading some of the comments on this page, all I can say is some people must be very bitter. Sure, he has made some mistakes, we all do. But, look to the alternative, Bill Shorten and his same old tired incompetent team. Do you want us to be in debt forever? Do you want your children and grandchildren to have to pay off our debts? Do we want to end up like Greece? Most of our politicians are on the nose, but I think Abbott is better than Bill Shorten, who must be the most negative opposition leader I have seen in many years.
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:57pm
    Yes but the mistakes we make as individuals don't affect the nation. This is not "On the Job Training"
    tia-maria
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:59pm
    ballaratboy, sour grapes mate...........Liberal also had left their debts..........
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:07pm
    ballaratboy did you forget when Abbott was in opposition , all he could say to everything was NO NO NO! Worst prime minister ever and an embarrassment to our country, get rid of him ASAP!
    retroy
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:21pm
    I agree ballaratboy. He has made plenty of mistakes but the little union boss would make many more.
    We do live in a democratic capitalist society but some people want us to revert to socialism.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:48pm
    Its still OK here in our own Parthenon ??
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:39pm
    This post is reminiscent of the government trolls.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:02pm
    Troll Wars... The New Generation ??.. There You are Mick !! :-)
    mangomick
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:39pm
    Geez ballaratboy you make out that there is something wrong with Governments borrowing money today that future generations will have to pay back. Sydney Harbour Bridge was commenced in 1923 and wasn't paid off until 1988. Are you saying the Bridge shouldnt have been built until the Government had the cash???
    Theo1943
    4th Feb 2015
    1:39am
    What? You think Shorten is a more negative opposition leader than Tony was?
    Made some mistakes? Ten years ago I felt sorry for the Yanks who had George Bush, thinking how embarrassing that must be for them. Now we've got Tony!
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    9:58am
    Vaudeville Lives !! :-)
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    6:03pm
    Or the Canberra Punch and Judy Show.
    doclisa
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:50am
    Abbott has claimed being consultative before...he bounced between 'keeping the faith' just like an old time preacher, being a captain ( really! we thought he was a Prime Minister a much more serious role...people die or live on his decsions about our health, our freedom of speech, our immigration, not just lose a game,) and telling Australia 'Its You not Me" as he talks of taking us on a journey. My mother long ago warned me about getting into cars with boys, and the Party and Cabinet that Abbott leads is boys.
    He still does not understand that he has public responsibility with public assets that have been bought and paid for by the Australian people and we are not willing to have him sell them to build private tollways and allow the rich to continue to not contribute.
    Call an early election and get rid of him and his cabinet until they can do a course on what it actually means to undertake good governance. They do not see themselves as serving the people, just pushing them around to make us fulfill the Neo-con idealoge of the Liberal Party.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:59am
    Sort of like when Kevin 07 claimed to be an economic conservative during the 2007 election.
    surfer
    3rd Feb 2015
    11:51am
    Great stuff Abbott and I wish we had more politicians with the integrity and honesty you possess. After inheriting the billions of debt from Labor it has been tough for you to operate and bring our country back from banana republic days. Add to that a hostile senate with some imbeciles in control and no one could attend to the legislation we badly need. No even God could do that. So thankyou for your galliant efforts. I just hope the rank and file does not kick you up the bum. Advice-- Get rid of Hockey. he lacks the ability to get important information across to the public. You should be complemented on the job you have done. The gutless public insulting you and not having enough brains to understand the economic situation in Australia should bow out. Sick of ignorarmouses.
    Alula
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:52pm
    Abbott? Honesty? REALLY?
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:02pm
    Surfer, Surely you are saying this with tongue in cheek. I guess lying is not part of the integrity set.
    Misty
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:22pm
    surfer get your head out of the sand, I think you have been dumped by a big wave once too often, it can do things to your thinking you know.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:22pm
    The blind leading the blind surfer.
    tia-maria
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:58pm
    Hey surfer, gee mate its about time you stop sitting on the fence.......... and jump aboard the Labor vote for a change..........Real mate Abbott integrity and honesty????........just maybe arrogant and dishonest...........
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:10pm
    only 2 ignorarmouses surfer, you and tony
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:22pm
    Stamp your feet and Howl !! I wont take a scrap of notice !!
    bebby
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:07pm
    Surfer, You must be joking!
    mangomick
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:47pm
    Mrs Abbott....i never knew you could surf........
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:15am
    don't be so modest in leaving yourself out of your ignoramus count, trood.
    Kato
    4th Feb 2015
    10:12am
    He was magnanimous in leaving you out wally.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    11:48am
    Thanks Kato, that was short and sharp. Maybe trod can't count as he appears to have overlooked you too!
    Lula
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:01pm
    16 months of blunders in fundamental areas of concerns for Australians is enough. Not to mention our ruined international reputation because of Human Right abuses. His speech did nothing to eliminate distrust in TA's jugdement, more to confirm his total lack of awareness: he has learnt nothing from his mistakes. He is only driven by his market idelogy & cannot see the whole picture.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:25pm
    Both sides of politics have a lot to answer for Lula.
    The issue neither side can confront is where the jobs are coming from. As both sides sell off everything and close down local manufacturing the nation has to live off borrowings from the third world. This is a one way street to a Greek style economy. Give it time.
    We need new blood and it sure ain't going to come from Labor of Liberal.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:17am
    mick, let's hope the new blood doesn't come from Clive Palmer and his ilk! If it does, we can only hope it flows copiously.
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    1:02pm
    Lulu, try telling us about six years of fundamental blunders that ended in 2013 if you are trying to make a point. So does your post mean that you want to see a revival of the invasion of the boat people? Do we need more pink batts, dead installers, and an Education Revolution that benefitted Labor Mates in the building game but did nothing to arrest the decline in educational standards in our schools/ All Rudd and Gillard were doing was providing a combination of smoke, mirrors and window dressing to fool the voters so they could win the next election and keep their snouts, and their Labor cronies snouts, in the tax payer funded trough.
    cockrone
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:17pm
    The only positive I took from the Press club speech is that he (Abbott) has a plan to have a plan......
    KSS
    3rd Feb 2015
    12:35pm
    At least then Mr Abbott has a plan cockrone. The other side haven't had one for 7 years.
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:09pm
    And he wrong plan can be just as destructive as no plan possibly even more so.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:26pm
    The looks on the faces of his cronies said it all. This confirmed to me that Abbott is unlikely going to last much longer.
    Mrw
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:01pm
    I just loved Alula's clearly totally ironic counterfactual comments-why hasnt is dragged out more fact free LNP fans? Please, Alula try again..I was greatly entertained by your clear attempt at trolling! Do more!
    Reeper
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:22pm
    Zzzzzzzzzzzz! What a boring bunch of doom-children or more likely ALP-ophiles inhabit this page. You and your ALP government went into a frenzy spending the billions of dollars inherited from the Howard government so much so no one remembered to stop spending when the bucket was dry.....so it was carry on regardless using credit. Now, comes the crunch...it has to be paid back or your Great Grandchildren will be burdened with the debt. Go ahead, vote a policy free Shorten in and watch the pink glow drain from your faces when he hits you with the usual ALP 'sneaky' taxes under a variety of guises.
    Misty
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:26pm
    Why on earth do you bother to visit here Reeper if that is what you think , Right Wing or Left Wing, who cares as long as we are free to express our views without fear of reprisal, LIGHTEN UP FOR GOODNESS SAKE, not good for you health to be so pessimistic.
    Misty
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:29pm
    And another thing Reeper, just imagine how boring it would be if everyone agreed with you or maybe that would make you happy.
    Sceptic
    3rd Feb 2015
    1:52pm
    So Misty, Reeper should not air his views, but you must be free to air your views. Funny that this is always the wish of those of the left. Free speech, but only if you agree with me.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:30pm
    Reeper: whilst there are a coiple of posters who continue to push your line please tell me the story about you and your family who were thrown out of work when the GFC hit. Having it both ways aren't you?
    And then please mention the large debt the current misfits have run up as well as removing the Debt Ceiling which was put in place so that governments could not borrow on forever. Has that one escaped your notice as well?
    Your posts are mostly anti Labor rants and I am wondering whther this lack of balanced discussion means that you may be another avatar of th eposter who posts as Solomon/Frank/miss aisle. By all means have a say but how about not cherry picking your facts and not ignoring the reasons why some actions were/had to be taken.
    Polly Esther
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:42pm
    One may not always agree with others thoughts, ideas, and comments, and it has always been a show of courtesy , good manners, and a reflection of ones upbringing when one permits those others to have and express their thoughts freely without fear of abuse and name calling. This is still a free country, well it was when last I looked, and hopefully it can remain so. Remember no one knows everything about anything.
    Thankyou very much.
    Patriot
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:42pm
    sceptic
    Talking about free speech: go to the "attached link" and read how well your mate Tony & his crew are doing???
    http://consciouslifenews.com/beginning-australian-freedom-speech/1177034/
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:01pm
    Thanks sceptic. Your link is a sobering thought as to what we all stand to lose if we let politicians control who we speak to and what we say. It is frightening that the media is not making this an all out fight as th epotential of this bill is a propaganda exercise which will eliminate any free speech from those who understand that government decsions are being made against the interests of the nation.
    I hope that some of the folk who post their one sided stuff on this website bother to take the time and read what is on the link.
    Kato
    3rd Feb 2015
    10:00pm
    Geez there are some comedians on here. Sceptic if only we agree with me? willie poker remove it. surely it must be hurting by now.
    Dotty
    3rd Feb 2015
    2:26pm
    All I can say about Tony Abbotts speach at the press club was, that although in his sort of way he was contrite ! It didn,t hold for me as how many times has he done something stupid in as far as bringing polices out that were supposed to help the Economy only for him to withdraw them as not being able to afford them !
    I suggest he puts tape on his mouth and shut it as every time he open,s it he puts his big foot in it! Maybe he should have stayed on his Bike instead!
    Dotty
    downunder
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:07pm
    Looking into the audience there were mostly his own LNP cronies and a few journos. He could have held that speech in his own party room. Ten times 'mea culpa', but looking in his face you could clearly see that it only was skin-deep. He is and remains a dip-stick and should never been elected, but that is on a different page
    Patriot
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:50pm
    Don't forget he was educated in Oxford (grades were not all that marvelous I am led to believe) and his studies were financed via a Rhodes Scolarship which - many who have been educated there - think that they are more intelligent than the rest of us.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:54pm
    Er ! um !! DUH !!!
    surfer
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:01pm
    C'mon particolor-- I thought you had a few clues. That's pathetic.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:45pm
    There is Absolutely only One Way out of this !! Make it Illegal to Borrow Money Overseas !! And Make the ones who have Benefited from Free Dinner Tax Evasion pay down the Existing Debt !! If You earned the Money in Australia Pay the Tax !! NO LOOPHOLES !!...
    Oars
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:39pm
    So away we go in full swing- the Labor party's best attribute- muck stirring. When will they ever BUILD something that doesn't fall over or put us in the red. (Sorry about the pun- "RED" in case youse fullas didn't catch it.)
    All predictable negative comments - again.
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:49pm
    SPoken like a true right wing man.
    The question you should have asked is WHAT HAS A COALITION GOVERNMENT EVER BUILT FOR THE NATION. As for the previous government:
    1. The Carbon Tax which despite the coal industry attacks was doing precisely what it was supposed to do.
    2. The Mining Tax which took avery very small cut of the billions of dollars taken overseas by these companies.
    3. The NBN which is a must for any first world country despite it being demonised as a waste of money. It never was and those who think so need to look ahead to see what is coming....as if given the past 20 years that is not perfectly obvious.
    4. Protections against financial institutions plundering average citizens.

    I find your comment more of a government propaganda publication than fact Oars.
    The above are not "negative" comments. They are FACT. Your side of politics is the side which only ever pays money into the bank accounts of the wealthy and almost never does anything useful for the future of the nation.
    Don't waste your time Oars...or whoever you are.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    3:51pm
    Righto Stop all the whinging !! And get ready for Your 0.001% CPI Increase !! Enjoy !! :-)
    Virginia
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:29pm
    Why write such a trashy article and put fear into people which is totally unnecessary. We all need to stop and remember why he was voted in. Don't blame Abbott for the mess he was left. And remember it will get worse if we go back to Labour . Everyone has to pull their weight not just sit back and wait for handouts. We live in an incredible country and all people do is winge Get over it and get on with it. And don't believe everything you read!!!!!
    Anonymous
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:44pm
    Yes good article agree with you totally
    surfer
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:00pm
    Very True Virginia, Too many commo's on this site for me. Only have one point of view and don't understand economics. Well we will all have to tighten our belts, even all these over sensitive lefties. If you want further disaster, just bring Labor and the Garden Gnome back. Then watch as we become a third world country. Borrow and hope, that's the catch cry.
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:08pm
    We are not blaming him for the mess he was left. We are blaming him for the mess he is making trying to fix it.
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:10pm
    Yes surfer as long as everyone gets to tighten their belts not just the disadvantaged.
    *Imagine*
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:08pm
    Hey be careful surfer! Economics has to be tempered with social responsibility. For example many people on this site strongly opposed the idea that students should not pay back their HELP debt if they never got a well paid job or became full time parents. Some suggesting that it is taken from their estate when they die - good economics perhaps.

    However, a $40 000 HELP debt would generally allow the educated person to earn a good wage, pay higher taxes, have the money to spend more, creating more jobs and paying more GST.

    That same $40 000 might be paid to an unproductive age pensioner every two years for as long as they live. That may be 20yrs or $400 000. Should we take that back off the unproductive pensioner’s estate in the name of economics? I can’t imagine many people would want that.
    Kato
    4th Feb 2015
    9:58am
    Good point. Imagine. What if we used economics to calculate the value of volunteer work done by many pensioners. And then pay them a pension to the real world values if there labours.
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    10:23am
    You have both missed the point. Our national debt is massive. We cannot carry on borrowing. We have to pay off this debt, at a time where everyone wants hand outs. You can not create jobs without money. We can only afford one federal government. Cut out all state government. We are a tiny country by population and the burden of all this duplication and dead wood falls on all long suffering taxpayers. What do you think of 40% pay rises for Queensland pollies recently??? We are not talking about volunteer work, but the whole country.
    Judy in the hills
    3rd Feb 2015
    4:49pm
    To give him his due, at least Tony Abbott has admitted his mistakes, and promises to be better aware in future. I didn't notice Ms Gillard admitting any of her mistakes (but she made plenty), nor likewise - did Kevin Rudd admit ever doing anything wrong! Gosh no. It would always have been someone else's fault. So why didn't the writers/repliers get more stuck into those two a couple of years ago! Wouldn't be biased reporting at fault would it?
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:04pm
    Too busy enjoying whatever it was they got for all that Debt I suppose ?? What was it ???..
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:42pm
    So what weere all of these mistakes which Gillard made Judy?
    tia-maria
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:26pm
    Judy in the hills,......... start looking down the hill mate........ Tony never admitted to any thing.......he is too busy trying dig his way out of the hole he got himself into......to climb up the top again............and that Judy will never happen for Tony again.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:37am
    Gillard's biggest mistake was right after the 2010 election, when she let Bob Brown force her to go back on her no Carbon Tax promise to get Green support to enable her to form a government. I think she was in a stronger position than she thought.
    Did she really think Bob Brown and the Greens would join with Tony Abbott and the Coalition to form government? (That is an interesting "what might have been scenario" in itself had it come to pass. But as it was, she had the broken promise Brown had forced on her as a cross she had to bear for the term of her Prime Ministership. She also had to scramble around to keep the independent Wilkie happy and on side and humour his poker machine reform fetish to ensure that her fragile majority in the House of Reps did not fall apart on her. At least it kept her busy, if not always happy.
    Maybe the Labor Caucus had more to do with accepting Brown's Carbon Tax demand as the price of forming government than Julia did; nobody that know is talking, but she and her government were stigmatized by the Carbon Tax backflip and that did play a part in her loss of traction in the polls that led to her being replaced as PM by Kevin Rudd and ultimately Tony Abbott.
    Anonymous
    7th Feb 2015
    6:25pm
    If Labor were so good in office how come they got voted out??
    particolor
    7th Feb 2015
    6:53pm
    They are S**T Liars !! :-)
    mollie
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:15pm
    Remember you self centered lot: "Its not what my country can do for me, but what I can do for my country?" (JF Kennedy. )
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:29pm
    Tell Tony !!
    MICK
    3rd Feb 2015
    5:41pm
    I'd love to hear that coming from a politician....who meant it.
    Wstaton
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:12pm
    The problem here is that the conglomerates who owning more and more of Australia are not of this country.
    Kato
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:36pm
    Mollie it didn't do much for JFK?
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:50am
    It wasn't so long ago we were treated to people whining about having
    to pay the price of a glass of beer or a Big Mac when they went to see the doctor. I am sure these same folk were happy when Kevin07 gave them the $900 stimulus payment, free pink batts, free set top boxes for their old tv sets and the chance to buy onto the NBN when it came to town. I hope they thank their kids and grandchildren for these gifts courtesy of Kevin because our kids and grandkids tax dollars will be paying for all this largesse. And if Shorten and his Senate cronies have their way, our great grandchildren will still be paying off the debt.
    bebby
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:24pm
    Hey surfer,Judy in the Hills, Wally et al, why don't we all just agree to disagree?
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:53am
    bebby, that's a lovely thought, but it is more stimulating, as well as fun, stirring all the lefties up! Cripes, we might even educate 'em.
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    9:35am
    Yes Wally, that would be an achievment. Make them study economics
    spud
    3rd Feb 2015
    6:32pm
    How callous can this be? We all know living on the pension is hard enough so why cut it. $80.00 a week to some may not seem a lot but it's a large portion of the present pension which is inadequate. Pensioners already have enough financial problems without adding to them. Add this to the increase in private health insurance and we are out of pocket again. Spud
    Paulodapotter
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:13pm
    The coalition takes its advice from the IPA. This is the Institute of Public Affairs which is a right wing think tank that provides the coalition with all its policies. This had not been exposed to the public through the media though many of its administration appears on TV fairly regularly. Everyone should read it's manifesto to gain an understanding of the conservative's vision of the future. It will scare the pants off you and explains why the LNP has the budget agenda it is trying to push. With a bit of luck the Australian public will finally wake up to what's going on and get rid of them. I think the Newman ousting is an indication that some are becoming more aware. However, the big scream coming the right wing is unless we cut, cut, cut, we cannot address the deficit. Businesses know that cutting reduces jobs and productivity and is what businesses do as a last resort usually before liquidation or bankruptcy. The better businesses look at ways to increase productivity and revenue through adjusting pricing. The equivalent in government is to increase taxes on the wealthy and corporate tax avoiders while putting a massive investment into developing new industries and incentives to small businesses to expand their productivity and therefore manufacturing. In this country, we have managed to discourage our manufacturing industries, destroyed our almost burgeoning renewable energy incentives and poured money into mining and encouraging foreign companies to rip our resources along with their profits overseas. The answer to how we can address our income is to expand our productivity, not to sell off the only valuable asset we have, our country.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    1:01am
    With more people living longer and going on the age pension, it would be electoral suicide for any political party to actually cut the aged pension. Getting between a pensioner and his or her entitlements could be hazardous to your health and I think the politicians know this potential loss of votes could lose an election for them. So if you are on the age pension, I don't think you need to worry.
    Wstaton
    4th Feb 2015
    7:51am
    Dead right there Paulodapotter. I worked for two computer companies that had the same philosophy. Spent most of their time working out how to cut expenses get rid of staff when there was a bit of a turn down. Unfortunately they forgot there was upturns as well and couldn't get the staff when this happened. They spent so much time on expense cutting is that they forgot that they should also be working on how to promote growth.

    Guess what? They don't exist anymore.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:05pm
    Wstaton your experience with the computer companies going overboard in letting the bean counters call All of the shots just proves that administrations, both public and private, needs to develop a broader approach to running things. Or the suffer the same fate as the examples you cite.
    Kato
    3rd Feb 2015
    7:33pm
    The bottom line is this come next election no matter whether Tony Abbot or Scott the Hatchet man Morrison or Turnbull are there the Liberals will not be after the election plain and simple get used to it.
    AlbertC
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:08pm
    when abbot was asked if he would except a night he stated that it was up the Australia commission to make that judgment.! but what he wants i a knighthood from the queen because he knighted the duke queens consort now he thinks the queen will respond by making him a knight of the realm. the man has a black heart and is all self what he can get for him and his family just like the french queen let them eat cake with abbot its let the grovel and wally don't bank on getting that gentle touch on the shoulder because it will never happen in your life time have nice day.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:39pm
    And the Queens Response... "My Husband and I are not Impressed !"
    Put Him in the Tower !!
    PlanB
    4th Feb 2015
    5:50am
    Right you are Albert, he does have a BLACK heart, he is an evil man is Abbott
    Kato
    4th Feb 2015
    10:15am
    No response from the corgis?
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    11:03am
    Apart from Weeing on the leg of the Antique Queen Ann Table and the Dukes trouser leg ! No not a lot of response !! :-)
    Mar
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:22pm
    What did I think of the PMs speech? VERY UNIMPRESSED . Agree with you jaker, another 18 months, bugger!!!!
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    2:36pm
    Settle down Mar ! Only 17 months and 29 Days now ! But if You count February in a Leap Year its still 18 Months ?? :-)
    Mar
    3rd Feb 2015
    8:53pm
    The Captain made a few mistakes with his PICKS, but that's okay. He accepts he's made a few mistakes, told a few lies, but it's only because he's a jolly good fellow really, trying after all to right all the wrongs that the Labor Govt.,left him. What's wrong with all of us uneducated, that we cannot see his honesty, his integrity and that what he does is for our own good. We all have to wake up to ourselves and let him get on with the job of feathering his own nest. We will all thank him one day and HE might even get a knighthood.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:02pm
    And Mouthful of Feathers and No Chook !! :-(
    Paulodapotter
    4th Feb 2015
    1:06am
    Yes only an intellectual would say oops sorry, I won't do that again and again and again and again.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:08pm
    And you were thinking you were going to witness the Sermon on the Mount with Tony throwing bread and fishes around?
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    12:52pm
    Like a Seasick Seagull !! :-)
    musicveg
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:10pm
    Easy way to pay the debt, stop paying politicians to fly around the world "talking" about what they are "going" to do, stop paying politicians lifelong expensive pensions, stop subsidizing big business, should I go on? I am sure many others can think of ways to curb the governments wasteful spending.
    particolor
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:28pm
    Short of Jailing the Lot of them for Misappropriation of Government Funds. I cant think of anything else ??
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    1:07am
    A nice idea and probably a good start, but you'd only be scratching the surface. I'd like to see the pensions and rorts retired politicians get be subject to means testing (like what they ram down the throats of self funded retirees) and a sunset clause that winds down their entitlements to nil after they reach a certain age. For example, I wonder how many taxpayer funded free trips John Gorton or Gough took in their "sunset" years?
    Paulodapotter
    4th Feb 2015
    1:09am
    Maybe we could charge all politicians who meet in groups larger than two with conspiracy and throw them into jail like they have bikeys in good old QLD.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    9:52am
    The word is Consorting ! And I think the Present lot should all be Charged with it for even Meeting in Parliament !! :-)
    Kato
    4th Feb 2015
    10:10am
    And coming back with other countries failed ideas. And promoting them as groundbreaking ideas of there own.
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:12pm
    Paulo, look what happened to Newman in the recent Queensland election. I do think you could apply the consorting laws to the "Backroom Boys" of the Labor Caucus and the Liberal's Party Room for consorting with undeclared, closet economic vandals.
    Mar
    3rd Feb 2015
    9:24pm
    Spot On Musicveg!
    Paulodapotter
    4th Feb 2015
    1:23am
    If our governments encouraged education, science and manufacturing, ie productivity, instead of spending money on unwinnable wars, ADANI; digging holes and tunnels; political advertising; fossil fuel corporations; obsolete transport systems; over representation by politicians; duplication of public services; in fact practically all service industries (most of which produce nothing at all), there would be no deficit and we would have a chance of developing an infrastructure that still fails to meet third world equivalents despite the billions we have ripped out of the earth and practically given away to overseas corporations and countries.
    Paulodapotter
    4th Feb 2015
    1:25am
    I meant non-essential services of course.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    10:24am
    Like shofar driven Limos and Press Secretaries Etc. ?? What's wrong with Catch the bus and write a letter to the Editor ?? :-)
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:17pm
    How do you determine the difference between an essential and non essential service? Most of us would agree about essential services, but what is a non essential service? If we identify one, do we eliminate it completely or trim a little bit here and there? It does come down to which bureaucratic sacred cow is going to get the chop and which one doesn't.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    12:45pm
    They weren't Fussy in France !! :-)
    Hawkeye
    4th Feb 2015
    12:53pm
    Wally, are you a complete moron?
    You say we can agree on what are the essential services, then it follows that the non-essential services would be........

    wait for it.........

    wait for it.........

    ALL THE OTHERS!!!!!!!
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    6:20pm
    Hawkeye could you kindly advise us of your nominations for essential government services? Then nominate the non essential government services and rank them in order of less irrelevant down to the most irrelevant? Then show how you would to fund the essential services and explain why. After you have done that, which non essential services would you axe or allow to limp along on a reduced allocation.
    Please share your wisdom in this matter with us simple folk.
    Hawkeye
    6th Feb 2015
    2:18pm
    Wally, it's settled then, you are a complete moron (proven fact, not name-calling).

    I am not the one saying we can agree on what are essential services, you are.
    I believe that what is essential to some is not essential to others.
    In my above post, I was merely highlighting the stupidity of your statement.

    Perhaps you don't realise that there are whole government departments devoted to doing what you are asking me to do. You really are a moron if you think that one person could have all the answers. Perhaps you think that you are that one person. The mad monk thought he was, but has been proven as nothing but another (highly paid) moron.
    professori_au
    4th Feb 2015
    2:35am
    Despite promises not to touch the seniors pension cuts are already in motion. Today I received advice that my mobility allowance would continue till April and after that it will be discontinued. That little assistance is important to someone who is relying more and more on as I am finding getting difficult to walk far, therefore a vehicle is important to my mobility. The amount is minor to government but it does not even fully compensate for the running of a vehicle; not that I am complaining. It is a help. However, I serve in the community as an advocate. Also as asuport for a mother with disabled children where I take them shopping, to hospital doctors, specialist, etc. In other words as a carer as she does not drive and now that the National Disability Insurance Scheme has been handed the role of assessing the right to support it is even more difficult for her. She is required to have her youngest who attends a special school re-assessed. Now this child has been attending this special school since school started and is regularly assessed regarding his development, so the school has a full record to show he is in need of special support, which in this instance is to travel to and from the school on a special bus, under supervision. today I spoke with the mother and she told me she has to take the child to school and go back to the school to pick him up as travelling on public transport there is no supervision and no one with the necessary skills and knowledge if there is a problem. She has to travel approximately 1hr 20mins each way twice a day, i.e. three hours a day to take him and bring him back from this school. She has two other children who also have needs although not to the extent of the youngest, so here is a mother struggling to cope with what support she was provided with and that has now been taken from her. she has already had a reduction in some support funding. Now I might appear to have digressed but I am not as The support I give is support the government has a certain duty of care to provide. That is not happening. To get a reassessment? 1-2 waiting time for paediatrician, similar for a psychiatrist and then up to perhaps a 6 - 9 months waiting time for a NDIS person to make an appointment to interview. I spoke recently with a person involved in checking some of the complaints and was advised that the NDIS people are not trained in this area and in fact one person was a salesperson!!!!! If this scenario eventuates then it is likely that the child will have regressed where he will not be able to cope with secondary or high school. The special needs school does a fantastic job with these children in developing life skills and interrelating with the community. These are children suffer from autistic spectrum conditions and are the lowest priority and have been for as long as I have known. What is going to happen to them in the future? Being tied down to their beds and left to lay in their own mess and irregularly fed and mistreated? You don't believe this is happening. Then I am sorry but you have you heads in the sand and hiding from fact the same as these politicians. I sound angry? Of course I am. I have fought for the most vulnerable in our community most of my life having been a victim of physical abuse from so-called charity orphanages, so I have a vested interest in trying to make a better world for those less fortunate than so many of us. To top of this comment. Centrelink finished by writing that if I joined a voluntary group and or enrolled in an education or did some community service for a minimum of 32 hours per month. Really??
    I put half as much again into my community as an volunteer community advocate; educator and researcher into our Constitution per week. Now I really do understand a week is not a month but???? where do these policy makers come from and what real life experiences do they have. Not much I suspect. I have enough experience dealing with bureaucratic and corporate bullying to publish a book; one I am seriously contemplating. Abbott, Hockey, and those others in parliament are mostly coming from the more affluent areas of society and have never walked in the steps of the vulnerable people in our society. These are people who consider it is the poor's' fault they are poor yet are involved in destroying our economy; destroying our industries, rural areas and are ready to sign TTPL agreements to further reduce entitlements Australians have enjoyed for many years and our young have fought in wars to protect. As Hockey stated, "our country is made up of the lifters and the leaners". In this country the lifters have been the people who went out and "did" and who invested in the development of our country. The leaners have been people of the Hockey ilk who have accepted the benefits provided by the people and now wish to deny anyone else from enjoying the benefits he enjoyed, e.g. education at the taxpayers expense; a salary; super and other perks, well beyond entitlement but given to he and fellow politicians without consultation with the public. Oh but it is an independent committee, etc. Come on; how gullible do you believe the Australian public is. Independent no, these rely on the support of the parliament for their existence and their perks also. GRRRRRR I am so disgusted I have really digressed. Sorry folks but I am shall I say politely mortified at the mentality of these non-humans
    Jen
    4th Feb 2015
    9:07am
    I can hear it getting louder and louder. The people's murmur that things are not right, that this is a society, not a budget, that people want politicians to stop working for themselves and their mates at the big end of town and to stop the austerity. Austerity never did any country any good and it will never balance a budget. It stifles a country, nothing more. Time for them to think past the next election and do what we're paying them to do. Stop making excuses for their lack of progress, and start working for the future of Australians. I read this today:

    The current crop of LNP politicians both State and Federally, seem to think they are there solely for themselves and their mates and that they can do as they please, all the while blaming and making excuses for their lack of progress. They have no clue what being a politician is supposed to mean, that they govern in the interests of the state/country and the people. That they take what they have and using a vision for the long term, create jobs and services for the people. I absolutely hate this current crop of no-hopers, whinging and whining, whilst feathering their own nests and helping out their wealthy mates, wrecking the environment, removing the rights of the people, controlling the judiciary and various boards, for their own desires. They can only think as far ahead as the next election, and what lies they can tell to be re-elected. To hell with them all.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    9:17am
    Your both right Its turning into The Village Of The Damned !!
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    6:26pm
    "We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan
    professori_au
    4th Feb 2015
    2:48am
    And let me make this point. They claim to have a Mandate. They do not. The only Mandate that have been given in Australia is I believe is 8 out of 44. Governments claiming to have a Mandate are pulling the wool over your eyes. The electoral system is so corrupt that it cannot provide a Mandate. 1. There is no provision under the Commonwealth Constitution for political parties. The parties themselves are not the real problem The real problem stems from the factions that rule and govern the political parties. They select their preferred candidate to be hopefully elected and will serve them. Next we have preferential votes. This is a further opportunity for the political factions to pressure/influence the way the preferential votes go. Nowadays you have electoral/electronic programs that can also interfere and influence the elections. So they reality is that you do not get to vote for the person of your choice but for mostly an invisible face selected by the factions. E.g. a selected candidate moves into an electorate that you may not know or even heard of. SO THEY DO NOT HAVE A MANDATE TO PUT IN PLACE THESE CRUSIFYING GUT BUSTING IMPOSITIONS on the people of the Commonwealth and at the same time put taxpayer moneys in hidden account in tax havens in other countries. We need our parliaments to carry out the Will of the people. Transparency? Yes. Accountability? Yes. Integrity and honesty? Yes. A set of morals and Principles? Yes. Do we have them NO!
    PlanB
    4th Feb 2015
    5:47am
    Prof' you are so right, thats why no one will ever get anywhere or be even if they are elected, unless they are willing to tow the line from the Puppeteers, it is not the blokes that are in Government ONLY that make the rules they are TOLD what they will bring in --to fit to the rest of the Political system --read USA --
    as they / we -- are heading towards a World Government and they want our medical system ect to be the same as the USA
    Like you said the WHOLE political system is corrupt beyond belief !

    Government are really NOT ELECTED --they are SELECTED
    Wstaton
    4th Feb 2015
    8:34am
    Indeed so professori_au. We no longer have honest government. But I feel there is now becoming a groundswell and that is the reason these parties are now having problems.

    People are starting to jack up and party leaders are now starting to have problems with their leadership and low esteem by the populace.

    They seem to forget although a party may get 55% of the vote at voting time there are still 45% who didn't want them which is a sizable chunk of the population.

    This I see is why ideology being the main driver of parties doesn't work. People move to vote for a particular party not for the ideology but they perceive that they seem to have the policies that will work at the time.

    The current government has fallen into the trap of thinking only big business can get Australia out of the problems and have fallen into the trap that a lot of defunct business had fallen into and concentrating on drastic cuts mainly affecting the lower part of the population while letting off the higher levels of the populace because that is where their ideology lays.

    The opposite lays with the Labor party who concentrates on giving away stuff to promote areas a great deal that is not needed. This is because they see this as their lot and a way to try and keep themselves in power.

    This now starting to not work. The LNP is seen as pushing ideology, Labor is seen as being spendthrifts.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    11:09am
    And they all lived Happily Ever After in the land of Corporationalia !! :-)
    TREBOR
    4th Feb 2015
    6:05am
    It was unfortunate that he missed a chance to put a case before the people of Australia. That seems to be his trademark in government. Answers? There is a need to reduce costs of living, followed by cost of labour to match but not without reducing cost of living, and to install genuine infrastructure that will provide long-term - dare I say it - lifetime jobs again.

    Increased jobs will lead to increased revenue and economic activity.

    On the down side, some are saying that world conditions now will lead to a serious downturn for several decades. If that is the case, there is a need to look closely at alternative energies and so forth, and at the entire gamut of resources, production and marketing.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    9:23am
    Now that is a problem that needs fixing Urgently !!
    mollie
    4th Feb 2015
    7:53am
    To Mick
    Re the rude PM and the poor sniggering journalist- Some journalists are beyond the pale, they think they are God's gift to the masses, and do not report anymore, but put their own spin on what they report. Just watch.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    9:25am
    And here's another p0roblem of Misinformation by the Press !!..
    Who will fix this Mess !! :-(
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    9:48am
    Having been a worker all my life without being disgruntled at having to work or being a she holds the lantern while his mummy cuts the wood type. Perhaps we should get back to many years ago, where there were no handouts. Woman kept the house clean and looked after the children, meals and washing. Men got off their bums and did an honest days work for an honest days pay. Most people were very happy. It is the mad craze to own your own home at out landish values with huge mortgages that causes two family incomes a necessity. I wonder at the ridiculous price of child care how all this works out. Cut all ex politicians benefits immediately. We cannot afford them. The whole world is in down turn so wake up before it is too late. No government can keep up with present day demands and pay off the billions in debt at the same time.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    10:07am
    I was astounded to see so many seats in Queensland ?? 89 I think ? With Hangers on and Secretaries Etc. the Wage Bill must be Astounding ?? Let alone the other States !!
    I wouldn't even like the Bill for a Club House Meeting and Nosh Up ?? :-(
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    10:15am
    Australian tax payers money is thrown around with gay abandon by all politicians. No consideration is given to hard working people and the burden of tax, while pollies lord it over us. getting ridiculous salaries and entitlements. We only need one government in this tiny country by population. Cut out all state governments and run local governments with an administrator. Our country is full of dead wood. Economic problems are foisted on the vulnerable while pollies give themselves 40% pay rises as in QLD not long back. The taxpayers should revolt and get everyone on an even playing field. We have far to many drones and consumers and not enough real productive people. We are not the lucky country any more.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    10:42am
    I too worked all My life that I could with a Crook Hip ! Australia was Self Sufficient ! We made everything ! You could walk across the road at Lunch Time if you didn't like your job and get a better one !! And the only people that whinged then were the Poms !! :-) Boy what a Mess now !! Straighten up or Ship Out !! :-)
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    1:55pm
    Spot On. Sick of whingeing Poms, and we are heading that way. We are in a mess.
    musicveg
    4th Feb 2015
    2:00pm
    Surfer - which century are you living in? Women keeping the house clean etc!!- well most of them still do it AND go to work. I agree men should get off their bums and do more work especially around the house. It's is not the child care that should be cut but the baby bonus,we need less population.
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    2:05pm
    No, Just get back to the good old days, not long ago, when people were not saddled with huge mortgages they could not afford. Women should not have to go to work if this was different. You are working for the banks to make record profits. The children are the ones that suffer.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    2:17pm
    I agree with Surfer House prices are linked to Big Bank Profits and Unaffordable !!
    Dad Went to Work, Mum Minded the Castle, The Kids were Happy :-) and all on ONE Wage ?? And then GLUTTONY STRUCK !!.. "OOOW !!"
    TREBOR
    4th Feb 2015
    6:38pm
    Surfer, you've hit it on the head. I've long discussed the 'merits' of the MADIF - the Mandatory Dual Income Family. - and its very real inflationary effect on cost of housing - a basic, as well as its effect on costs of living and so on, not to mention the social impact of both a lower standard of parenting etc, but also of the absolute necessity under the MADIF for a mandatory high level of un- and under-employment.

    Argue it as you wish - the reality is that house prices began to soar in the early 1980's etc, when dual incomes became the standard by which mortgages were offered by banks etc.

    This lead to the rise in demand for higher SINGLE incomes - which naturally flowed on to DUAL income families, and thus became a never-ending race for higher and higher wages.

    Again - argue the social merits or otherwise of 'women's rights' etyc - but those are the undeniable facts. Without the equivalent of a Dual Income nobody can afford a houyse - so the price will perpetually escalate as long as the demand fo single incomes to meet that standard remain, and these then flow to both partners in a Dual Income Family at the same time, leaving the Single Income STILL behind.

    A race nobody can win given the destruction of society as it once stood.
    professori_au
    4th Feb 2015
    10:25am
    Hi All:) I find it encouraging to read the past recent comments as people realise they have been sold out by a foreign power. One thing I have come across is the disbelief when I tell people that we are not being government by a lawful government but corporations. Lawful government being you and I.
    Another correction:( to my frustrated comment about pensions and support. I said 1-2 but did not clarify what 1-2 meant. I apologise. !-2 means 1-2 years waiting times for a paediatrician and psychiatrist plus a further 6-9 months waiting time to get approval for the child to travel on the disabled bus under supervision this year. Selling out the Australian people is not making the country viable. As is happening now industry training has been placed in the hands of private providers, who have in many instances "Mickey Moused training for profit, not to improve employment opportunities for the young, elderly or unemployed. There are no jobs for either the elderly or the young. This is leading our population down the road to disenchantment and depression, loss of self-esteem and self respect. Those politicians, who should be showing by example are attempting to blame shift onto those who cannot defend themselves. All of these community services have been handed over to the private sector and increasing the costs; reducing the quality and then claiming subsidies and grants for doing a lousy job. Although I am supposed to be retired, as an advocate I keep receiving examples of the greed and corruption of what used to be charities assisting the poor and who are now registered corporations interested in revenue. Oh we do help, they say. Yes some very limited assistance and not not a a productive level of subsidies and grants they collect from our corporate governments. I have written some examples of the level of how the value of grants are bled off for the benefit of the corporations and no one seems interested in pulling them into line. I see attempts are being made by political and other vested interests to water down the work of anti corruption committees. This is an example of how corruption is damaging this great country
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    10:46am
    YES !!! We've Noticed !!
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    12:40pm
    I get begging letters from charities in the mail all the time. I just put the begging letters from charity A into the return envelope that came with the letter from charity B. And vice versa. Then I mail each other's begging letters back to them. The trouble is, the begging letters must be computer generated, as the same ones keep sending me more begging letters and I keep switching and swapping them and sending them back. Maybe if more people did as I do, they would take the hint. BTW, my charity donations are in the form of purchases from Op shops.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    1:53pm
    Same here !! Vinnie's Boutique !! & Salvo's Emporium !! :-)
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    6:22pm
    You can't beat 'em, although some of their shop managers that do the pricing confuse their Salvo or Vinnie's op shop with Harrods or Sachs Fifth Avenue. You just have to shop around.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    6:58pm
    All of the Pricer's here at Vinnies Boutique are of lets say Vintage ! And Know what a Pensioner will pay ! :-).. Salvos think they are Myers thou !! :-( But thank God Vinnies has most of the Good Stuff !! There are other Assorted Bargain Barns (Charity's) so You just shuffle around till You find it !!
    wally
    6th Feb 2015
    12:29pm
    Yup.
    professori_au
    4th Feb 2015
    10:32am
    The captain as you say admits he has made mistakes and told lies. That is for public consumption; the gullible ones at that. The real issue is: What has he learnt and what is he going to do about it. I do not believe this man is capable of learning from his mistakes but will continue with his Me, Me egoistic attitudes. That comment applies to many others within parliament on both sides. I am cautious of the simplistic argument that Labor goes into debt and coalition has to being us back into credit. Both Labor and Liberal are no longer one working for the worker and the other for the rich. There is very little between them, so much so that we should rename them laborals.. Ambition and greed are in the way of the leaders and they no longer work for the people
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    10:52am
    Do You think we should tell them off Prof ?? Id like to give them ALL a DCM !! :-)
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    12:26pm
    On the whole, no politician likes to admit being wrong for fear that his/ her fellows would turn on him/'her like a pack of rabid weasels and tear him/her to shreds. To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Consistency is the hob goblin of small minds" and that just about sums up what we are witnessing today in the Coalition. If Tony learns anything, it should be to think before opening his mouth. And let that be a lesson for all of them. And us too, for that matter.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    12:41pm
    The only Perk they should get is a ROLL OF STICKING PLASTER !!
    wally
    4th Feb 2015
    5:37pm
    parti, why not just give 'em a stick? Repeatedly.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    7:40pm
    A Stick of What ? I'm sick of all of them both sides and Middle . A Big Roadworks Broom is Needed ! Sweep them all out and put them on the Dole !! Untill they find a job,? This could take some time !! I wonder if the Centrelink Employees gets the Sack for Uproarious Laughter when They see their Résumés ?? :-) :-)
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    12:31pm
    A big stick. Like a waddy. Or a cricket bat.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    1:42pm
    Did You know its Illegal to use a Cricket Bat on a Rat or a Bureaucrat ??
    wally
    6th Feb 2015
    12:30pm
    But if you have a smile on your lips and a song in your heart, it is OK.
    Jen
    4th Feb 2015
    11:45am
    Tony Abbott can't seem to keep his foot out of his mouth. He has an inability to realise how offensive he is. This, from Animals Australia who have a campaign just starting with nearly 1.3 million signers in it's first couple of days, shows what an ugly, black-hearted person he is:

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott has been roundly criticised for some major gaffes recently. His speech yesterday at the National Press Club was meant to get his personal performance and that of the government back on track.

    So it was astonishing to hear him proudly say this in defending his government's achievements:

    "The live cattle trade that Labor closed down in panic over a TV programme is booming again."

    We've heard him say this before. For most Australians though, our involvement in the live export trade is anything but a matter of pride. It's a source of angst and shame.

    And these comments are not only out of touch with community sentiment, but they trivialise the horrific cruelty that over a million Australian animals were subjected to in Indonesia for more than a decade.

    The Prime Minister has promised to listen more to his colleagues — colleagues who include your Federal representatives — so they need to hear just how out of touch his statement is with community sentiment.
    surfer
    4th Feb 2015
    5:00pm
    Selfish greedy bastards is my interpretation for them all. I am amazed at farmers that have taken the trouble to raise these cattle stand by and turn a blind eye. Surely we could have world class abbatours to handle this and make much more money for Australia. We produce the meat, why give the processing to other countries. The world demand for meat is enormous. We don't need muslims to show us how to handle this work. We are all a bit dilly.
    TREBOR
    4th Feb 2015
    6:45pm
    "How would they like their Throat Cut While Their Brain is still Ticking ? Its Utterly INHUMANE and Barbaric !! "

    Seems to be a common thread in Muslim mythology - though only adopted by some.
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    6:27pm
    Seems that ISIS/ISL murderers' preferred method of Killing their victims in orange jump suits is similar to the Halal method of butchering their livestock.
    professori_au
    4th Feb 2015
    1:51pm
    Probably would be a good start Particolor and then start again with electing people we select, not factions. The prospect of turning it around to an honest parliament is enormous. they have virtually destroyed everything.
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    2:29pm
    They have all but Destroyed Our Way Of Life !! :-(
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    2:32pm
    PS.. We'll end up doing the Poms out of a job! And they will Whinge about it ? :-)
    TREBOR
    4th Feb 2015
    6:46pm
    Aye - but not theirs, particolor - not theirs....
    particolor
    4th Feb 2015
    8:28pm
    Aw ! I dunno Smiling Joe isn't smiling as much now ! Noticed ?
    Ritza
    5th Feb 2015
    10:25am
    Very glad to see all this discussion on politics...seriously.

    There are many people out there who do not care about what is happening in our parliaments.

    Decisions made there affect us all.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    1:34pm
    I know stacks that don't give a Stuff about Politics !! Wouldn't work in an Iron Lung ! But You should hear the Squeal if their Dole aint there ?? :-(
    Ny19
    5th Feb 2015
    12:11pm
    I thought Abbott's Press Club speech was woeful. Same old....same old....BS.
    wally
    5th Feb 2015
    12:33pm
    No Sermon On the Mount. No bread. No fishes. Just what we expected.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    1:45pm
    But the Dinner was DEEELISHUS !!
    Boomer
    5th Feb 2015
    6:53pm
    I thank my lucky stars that I don't need to rely on the pension because most companies wouldn't keep you on even if you still felt okay enough to work to age 70 and the govt have their head in the sand if they think all employers are the same as the like of Bunnings. It will force people on even less benefits than the pension until they turn 70. We cannot continue to have big unfunded Labour promises but to attack pensioners and the young unemployed is unforgivable so I will vote Labour for the first time.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    7:00pm
    OK Boomer !! :-)
    That's One...
    professori_au
    5th Feb 2015
    8:51pm
    Do what the Icelanders did. dismiss the parliament. They are not lawful government anyway.
    particolor
    5th Feb 2015
    9:25pm
    OK by Me !! Good enough for Icelanders Good enough for Auslanders !!
    professori_au
    6th Feb 2015
    3:39pm
    after ww2 parliament recognised the value of an educate and well trained workforce to develop this country. The downside of this is that when you educate train people to study, research and ask questions, you put yoursekf in a position of facing questions about how you behave. That is one of the reasons why vested interests have set about destroying our education system. Trained and educate people ask Questions. HOW DARE THEY! HOW DARE THEY EXPECT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY! So they decided to stop teaching the Constitution from the curriculum in schools, choosing to replace it with Citizenship. What is the difference you ask. The Constitution teaches you about Your Rights, in particular the Common law rights that apply to all Australians. Citizenship merely teaches you how alleged governments wish you to behave and it also takes away most of your rights. It also takes away the lawful government, which as I frequently espouse, You and I the people and replaces it with corporate government where the parliament is not the servant of the people but the master
    particolor
    6th Feb 2015
    4:58pm
    And the Head of the Master Race aint looking all that Cute at the moment !! He might Challenge them to a Sword Fight ?? :-)
    moke
    7th Feb 2015
    5:02pm
    Ah! Mr Morrison are you aware of how many pensioners there are and they all vote tread very carefully if you like being in your portfolio
    particolor
    7th Feb 2015
    5:29pm
    Where One puts Ones foot can determine Ones future ......
    particolor
    7th Feb 2015
    7:12pm
    But a waste of time !! All the Contracts have been Signed WE ARE SOLD !!..
    They even signed a Contract to Lend Disease in Victoria just in time before being Executed when the Parisians came !! Now its 1.2 Billion Dollars for Breach of Contract ?? :-( Foreigners Cant Lose with Our Mugs in what Used to be Our Country !! ..
    I love a Sunburnt Country !
    A Land of Weeping Clowns !..
    Finish it of Simmo !! :-)
    pate
    8th Feb 2015
    10:20am
    He lies like a pig in mud!!!!

    10th Feb 2015
    8:47am
    PLEASE READ AND PASS ON..
    Author : Dr. Dale Kerwin
    School of Education
    MT Gravatt Campus, Grifffith University
    Ph. 07 3735 5884 | fax. 07 3735 5991
    email:mailto:d.kerwin@griffith.edu.au

    Subject: Change the Entitlements

    I absolutely agree, if a pension isn't an entitlement, neither is theirs. They keep telling us that paying us an aged pension isn't sustainable.
    Paying politicians all the perks they get is even less sustainable! The politicians themselves, in Canberra , brought it up, that the Age of Entitlements is over:

    The author is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in Australia will have this message. This is one idea that really should be passed around because the rot has to stop somewhere.

    Proposals to make politicians shoulder their share of the weight now that the Age of Entitlement is over:

    1. Scrap political pensions.
    Politicians can purchase their own retirement plan, just as most other working Australians are expected to do.

    2. Retired politicians (past, present & future) participate in Centrelink.
    A Politician collects a substantial salary while in office but should receive no salary when they're out of office.
    Terminated politicians under 70 can go get a job or apply for Centrelink unemployment benefits like ordinary Australians.
    Terminated politicians under 70 can negotiate with Centrelink like the rest of the Australian people.

    3. Funds already allocated to the Politicians' retirement fund be returned immediately to Consolidated Revenue.
    This money is to be used to pay down debt they created which they expect us and our grandchildren to repay for them.

    4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.

    5. Politicians lose their privileged health care system and participate in the same health care system as ordinary Australian people.
    i.e. Politicians either pay for private cover from their own funds or accept ordinary Medicare.

    6. Politicians must equally abide by all laws they impose on the Australian people.

    7. All contracts with past and present Politicians men/women are void effective 31/12/14.
    The Australian people did not agree to provide perks to Politicians, that burden was thrust upon them.
    Politicians devised all these contracts to benefit themselves.
    Serving in Parliament is an honour not a career.
    The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so our politicians should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will only take three or so days for most Australians to receive the message. Don't you think it's time?

    THIS IS HOW YOU FIX Parliament and help bring fairness back into this country!

    If you agree with the above, pass it on. If not, just delete.

    If you wonder why the above individuals are asking for your help look at the figures below.

    REMUNERATION - SPECIFIED STATUTORY OFFICES
    Date of Effect 1 July 2014
    Specified Statutory Office
    Base Salary (per annum)
    Total Remuneration for office (per annum)

    Chief of the Defence Force > $535,100 - $764,420

    Commissioner of Taxation > $518,000 - $740,000

    Chief Executive Officer, Australian Customs
    and Border Protection Service > $483,840 - $691,200

    Auditor-General for Australia > $469,150 - $670,210

    Australian Statistician > $469,150 - $670,210

    "PAY FREEZE, NOT FAIR. SOB, SOB"

    Salaries of retired Prime Minister and Politician

    Office Additional salary (%) Salary as of 1 July

    Prime Minister 160 $507,338

    Deputy Prime Minister 105 $400,016

    Treasurer 87.5 $365,868

    Leader of the Opposition 85.0 $360,990

    House of Reps Speaker 75.0 $341,477

    Leader of the House 75.0 $341,477

    Minister in Cabinet 72.5 $336,599

    Parliamentary secretary 25.0 $243,912

    Other ministers 57.5 $307,329

    Shadow minister 25.0 $243,912

    Source: Remuneration Tribunal.

    So if I press all the right buttons, the TOTALannual wages for the 150 seats in the Parliament are:

    Prime Minister $507,338
    Deputy Prime Minister $400,016
    Treasurer $365,868
    Leader of the Opposition $360,990
    House of Reps Speaker $341,477
    Leader of the House $341,477
    Minister in Cabinet $336,599
    Parliamentary secretary $243,912

    Other ministers* 307,329 x 71 = A$21,820,359

    Shadow ministers* $243,912 x 71 = A$17,317,752

    The TOTAL ANNUAL SALARIES (for 150 seats) = $41,694,311 - PER YEAR!

    And that's just the Federal Politicians, no one else!

    For the 'lifetime' payment example (below) I used the scenario that
    1. They are paid 'lifetime' salaries the same as their last working year and
    2. After retiring, the 'average' pollie's life expectancy is an additional 20 years (which is not unreasonable).

    It's worth remembering that this isEXCLUDING all their other perks!

    SO, for a 20 years 'lifetime' payment(excluding wages paid while a Parliamentarian)

    Prime Minister @ $507,338 = A$10,146,760

    Deputy Prime Minister @ $400,016 = A$8,000,320

    Treasurer @ $365,868 = A$7,317,360

    Leader of the Opposition @ $360,990 = A$7,219,800

    House of Reps Speaker @ $341,477 = A$6,829,540

    Leader of the House @ $341,477 = A$6,829,540

    Minister in Cabinet @ $336,599 = A$6,731,980

    Parliamentary Secretary @ $243,912 = A$4,782,240

    Other ministers** @ $307,329 = A$6,146,580 x 71 = A$436,407,180

    Shadow ministers** @ $243,912 = A$4,878,240 x 71 = A$346,355,040

    Conclusions:
    TOTAL 'life time' (20 year) payments, (excluding wages paid while in parliament) = A$833,886,220 - OVER $833 MILLION

    Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd, John Howard, Paul Keating, Malcolm Fraser, Bob Hawke, et al, add nauseum, are receiving $10 MILLION + EXTRA at taxpayer expense.

    Should an elected PM serve 4 years and then decide to retire, each year (of the 4 years) will have cost taxpayers an EXTRA Two and a half million bucks a year! A$2,536,690 to be precise.

    A 2 year retirement payment cut-off will SAVE our Oz bottom line A$792,201,909 *** NEARLY $800 MILLION.
    There are 150 seats in House, minus the 8 above = 142 seats, divided equally for example = 71 each for both shadow and elected ministers.
    This example excludes all wages paid while a parliamentarian AND all perks on top of that - travel, hotels, Secretarial staff, speech writers, restaurants, offices, chauffeured limos, security, etc. etc.

    150 seats, 20-year payment of A$833,886,220 less annual salary x 2 years of A$83,388,622. [$41,694,311 x 2]

    "Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better to change the locks."
    Doug Larson (English middle-distance runner who won gold medals at the 1924 Olympic Games in Paris, 1902-1981)

    YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU HAVE FOUND WHERE THE CUTS SHOULD BE MADE!

    ACTION: Push for a MAX 2 year post retirement payment (give 'em time to get a real job).

    Spread it far and wide folks. People should know.

    Dr. Dale Kerwin
    Jen
    10th Feb 2015
    9:40am
    Passed it on and posted on Fb. Whilst I believe we need to attract quality politicians, clearly, these enormous benefits are not doing the trick are they? They just attract thieves, charlatans and liars, people with utterly no clarity of vision whatsoever and those who have no interest other than feathering their own nest.
    surfer
    10th Feb 2015
    10:32am
    Quite right Jen. In Queensland last year they were awarded a 40% pay increase. How could anyone justify that for dead wood and losers on huge salaries. Australians are good at ripping off Australians. Just look at false advertising and fuel prices. Now the only solution is to get rid of massive duplication. We only need one federal government in this tiny country by population. Get rid of all state governments, we don't need them and now, cannot afford them. Run local government with administrators. (More dead wood) Make all the unproductive people in this country take pay cuts and give the real workers a fair go.
    particolor
    15th Feb 2015
    3:05pm
    What a Good Idea that Wont Happen Surfer !! :-(
    Alexia_x
    15th Feb 2015
    2:47pm
    I think Abbot had his usual, stupid and at this time semi-apologetic attitude and let everyone see once more how inadecuate he is.
    particolor
    15th Feb 2015
    3:14pm
    I See You've got over Valentines Day OK !! :-)
    professori_au
    16th Feb 2015
    12:58am
    Hi Everyone. I am pleased to see the increasing number of comments that are positive and that people are now starting to ask questions. The problem is that these should have commenced many decades ago. It is sad that people have to hurt before they start to wake up. That is what is happening all across Australia. That is what we have to do. Do not let the Berlin Wall, which is the front desk stop you from seeking a meeting with you. At the moment if one goes then that person is refused to get an appointment. However, if 20, 30, 100 or more seek a meeting then you can show the power of the people. they have yet to understand that despite being a factional candidate, it was the votes from a corrupt electoral system that conned people into electing them because they believed they had no choice. Corruption as I have said before runs from the top to the floor and we have unlawful corrupt parliaments that are not really the government. Here I go Again. Government is you and I the electors of the Commonwealth of Australia and parliament is our servant. Keep stressing that and those intellectually challenged politicians might; just might comprehend who they should be serving. Yesterday and today I received some information about our Victorian parliament and its activities at Christmas. I received a full newspaper add from the local paper 20th December of Acts/regulations passed by parliament to be gazetted 2 days before Christmas. The whole add was closely printed in a pale ink, with the print as large as the smaller telephone directories are printed. In other words unreadable. What has apparently happened is that Victoria has made laws that have never been through the complete due process. There have been challenges and so conveniently it has rushed them through in such a way that unless you knew what you were looking for then you most likely would not attempt to read it because it was too hard to read. In addition publishing 2 or three days before Christmas is a convenient way of getting them through as the public priorities would be about shopping. This is patently an attempt to mislead the public. I have started to examine them and it will be a long task, but an amazing large amount of the acts and regulation are to protect local government from scrutiny from the public and also to legitimise local government from imposing fines as a form of revenue. According to parliament anything local government wants to do the law will protect them. Unfortunately the parliament is filled with politicians who don't know what day it is and don't seem to understand that local government has no standing under the Commonwealth Constitution, except as a department of the state. Proof? 1974 and 1988 we had a referendum asking us would we accept local government as a third tier of government. It was empathically rejected. What did Victoria do in 1989? Victoria decided it would make its own laws and created the local government act 1989. without going into too much detail as I have written about it before. Victoria used the false 1975 Victorian Constitution as its power base to enact the 1989 local government Act, without any due process, without royal assent and without any application to the UK to repeal the 1855 Victorian Constitution. All invalid. Further to its invalidity is that it is inconsistent to the laws of the Commonwealth as being repugnant to the laws of the UK. Victoria has acted outside of its authority and has tried to claim sovereign rights. It does not have sovereign rights now as it gave this up when it signed the federation to become one with a larger sovereignty the Commonwealth of Australia. The states Constitutions are subservient to the Commonwealth. We must examine s parliament has gazetted at Christmas and see how they have taken more and more rights from you. You, the elector and ratepayer and even resident of the trading corporations posing as councils believe the parliament will protect them. A few I have read are clearly designed to try and block public outcry and the demand for accountability and transparency. What can we do? We do our homework. We challenge them to show where they got their authority. We do not like the Geelong council accept their opinion. I asked Geelong to provide me with a signed copy of their authority and when they gave just reiterated they got their opinion from the 11975 Victorian Constitution and the local government 1989 Act. I contacted them and stated I was not interested in their opinion but wanted the signed copies. This has been refused. And on council officer also advised me that the Commonwealth Constitution 1900-1901 was irrelevant to Victoria. Indeed! Our Constitution is also our Rule of Law and its is what gives us protection from the corruption and misuse of power by political factions.
    If we do not challenge them and demand answers as well as reminding parliament it is not government but the government's servant, elected by the people to carry out the Will of the people, not the vested interests of a few and foreign powers. Keep challenging and as we have a new parliament ensure they fully understand the people's Will. I will continue with my research and will challenge. I sent an email to one new MP who was claiming she would work in the interest of Victoria as she had a people's Mandate. I pointed out to her she was misusing Mandate as the only peoples Mandates were the I think 8 successful referendum held. These were issues voted on by the people. Political parties claiming a Mandate are lying as it is impossible for them to have a Mandate from the people. Why? Because the system is corrupt with political factions choosing the candidates and further corrupted by the preferential system, which put further power into the hands of the faction. You vote only on the candidate chosen by a faction and frequently they are moved into an electorate from outside by the political factions. There are many ways they can do this, money poured in by vested interests, media support and so on. Why, we had a Mr Smith whose nomination was accepted. No one ever saw him. Rumour alleged he was a real person who slept in his vehicle, therefore had a right to nominate. I am not sure how they got away with arguing that point. If he slept in his car, where was it located? He could have been anywhere. Strangely he got a few votes. I am not sure of the total but whenI lodged a complaint to the electoral office claiming it was a corrupt elections I was informed that was my opinion? What do you people think. Corrupt or Not?
    Jen
    16th Feb 2015
    7:42am
    The people have one very good method of change - social media, something past generations did not have.

    All we need is honest politicans with a view to the betterment of Australia and Australians. Are we ever likely to get them? The bar has been set at very low, with the public conception of politicians lower than carsalesmen. These are the people running our country, ruling our lives. What decent person would want to put their head on the line and take a stand? We have one independent here in Queensland who's doing just that: Peter Wellington. He has stated his mind clearly, over and over, exactly what he thinks about the underhanded methods of the recent LNP Government and he was our informant of what was really going on. He will make the new Labor Government raise its standards as well. People like Peter Wellington, who are fearless and can't be bought, are few and far between.