Diabetes growth hits ‘critical mark’

Diabetes will overtake heart disease as the leading lifestyle disease in Australia by 2017.

Diabetes growth hits ‘critical mark’

Within two years, current trends suggest that diabetes will overtake heart disease as the leading burden of disease in Australia.

Burden of disease is a measure used to assess how much a disease or injury impacts the healthcare system, quality of health and life, effect on the budget and repercussions to family and society on the whole.

The latest statistics from Diabetes Australia Victoria, show that last year, 74 Victorians were newly diagnosed with diabetes each day. Applied nationally (based on population percentage), this figure comes out to 299 new cases every day or 109,135 for the year.

Figures also show that the number of people living with diabetes in Victoria has just passed the critical mark of 300,000, with a further 500,000 at high risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes – for which there is no cure – makes up just 10 per cent of all cases, whilst Type 2 diabetes is different because “We do know from evidence that regular physical activity and a healthy diet can reduce the chances of people being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes by about 60 per cent,” according to Diabetes Australia Victoria Chief Executive, Craig Bennett.

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Opinion: A life-long burden

In 1989 the rate of diabetes was at manageable levels in Australia, but since the population has started to eat less healthily and exercise less, this rate has almost tripled. In 2011–12, 4.2 per cent of Australians have diabetes. The statistics are staggering and the trends suggest that we could be heading to upwards of five per cent of the population being affected by 2020.

Diabetes can also lead to much worse health issues down the road. In 2007–08, data showed that of the 520,000 people with diabetes, 58 per cent also had heart disease, while 10.7 per cent had suffered vision loss. Lower limb amputation is also a major risk factor.

As our nation grows larger, so will the serious effects of diabetes – both in the homes of our loved ones, and in the health budgets handed down by future governments.

What do you think? Does more need to be done to increase the frequency of exercise and to reduce unhealthy food consumption in this country? Do you have diabetes? How does it affect your day-to-day life?





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    Blossom
    19th Feb 2015
    11:56am
    I think that as fresh fruit and vegetables increase in price people will resort to what appears to be cheaper foods. e.g. In Adelaide at the moment some shops are charging $4.90kg for bananas. To make matters worse sometimes they look perfect on the outside and still really firm but when you peel them the outer appearance is prefect but when you cut them or in my case one literally broke in 3 pieces the centre was brown. Stone fruit is expensive when you take into consideration how much of the weight is stone. Unfortunately unless you have poultry there is a lot of unavoidable waste with vegetables too. People on tight budgets are also turning to cheaper lower quality cuts of meat which often have a higher fat content. In some areas our water quality leaves a lot to be desired.
    Some people actually resort to buying water that doesn't leave a revulting taste in your mouth.
    I know all producers of food have to cover their costs and I agree that charges have to cover that for them to live on. I can see both sides of the prices issue.
    Some of today's older generation were raised by parents who had to take the cheapest options on which to survive. e.g. My Mum and my Aunties were given white bread with dripping and homemade Plum Sauce on it as a snack after school. Having helped my Mum make it when I was a child I realise the healthiest part of that would have been sauce as it had only wholesome food in it, no additives. The plums came off trees from your backyard. Most properties don't have enough bare soil to grow any of your own food unless you have a suitable spot to grow some in containers. I think they are some of the reasons that a lot of people are not eating as healthily as they should.
    Blossom
    19th Feb 2015
    12:08pm
    A lot of foods have hidden carbohydrates (sugar is a carbohydrate) and fats.
    For those who are interested google carbohydrates in various types of foods.
    Many people are not aware that there are good and bad carbohydrates. Some turn to sugar too quickly and give us a quick energy spurt then long time of fatigue and if you aren't careful you stay on that merryground. The foods that take longer to digest give a much more stable blood glucose level, and keep us satisfied for longer. There is even at least one vegetable with contains salt when it is picked.
    Because I make too much insulin I had to go to a dietician and I also did some reseach on this. We basically need a good balance of protein and good carbs which also give essential supply of vitamins and minerals etc. I confess that I go through stages of finding the motivation to adhere to as healthy a diet as I should.
    Precious 1
    22nd Feb 2015
    8:34pm
    The climate here in OZ is making people very laxzy plus so much more money available...everyday I hear of people going on trips overseas etc as well as at the same time building a house...unheard of years ago...they getting fatter (me included) shear lack of exercise then the heart starts giving probs and it goes on and on...these are the young I talk about not retirees who have done the hard yards..Laziness is going to be the death of many.......
    Paulodapotter
    19th Feb 2015
    12:32pm
    There seems to be two issues here. There appears to be a distinct difference between inherited diabetes and acquired diabetes when discussing Type 2 and how it should be managed. In the case of acquired type 2, diet and weight may be the things to be treated as the condition can be reversed/cured. However, in inherited diabetes where genetics play the biggest role, it seems treatment and/or management is really an individual matter and, as yet, there is no cure. I would be interested in hearing your responses on this comment.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    1:03pm
    Paulodapotter; Type 1 diabetes is a chronic illness where the pancreas stops making insulin. It cannot be prevented and if left untreated will kill. It typically affects those under 30 and accounts for about 10-15% of all diabetes.

    The other 85-90% of diabetes cases are Type 2 and most cases could have been prevented. It used to mainly affect older people (age being a risk factor) but is now being seen even in children as a result of lifestyle choices. In Type 2 diabetes, the pancreas does produce insulin but either not enough or, more likely, the body is resistant to it so it can't do its job of clearing glucose from the blood. Type 2 diabetes can be managed and even reversed by good diet and exercise regimes neither of which needs to cost a lot. Making better food choices may cost a little more but is offset by not having the 'junk' and regulating portion control. Exercise can be free - just walk at a pace that makes you puff a bit for about 30 minutes a day. Add in some body-weight exercise to protect muscle mass and you are well on the way to preventing/managing Type 2.
    Grateful
    19th Feb 2015
    1:06pm
    Type 2 diabetes is also commonly considered by the medical profession as an "avoidable" condition i.e. a "self inflicted wound". FACT!!

    Instead of trying to implement huge, and PROVEN to be ineffective, programmes to try to assist and avoid this disease, we should first do two things.
    First, IDENTIFY those that have acquired Type 2 diabetes by their OWN lifestyle, i.e. self inflicted (VERY EASILY DONE, all the data is there with their doctors).

    Then, like we have done with cigarette smoking, where the medical profession has also considered many of the side effects of smoking are "self inflicted", the BIGGEST and most effective cause in the huge reduction of cigarette smoking is when the price of cigarettes was increased VERY significantly.

    Once we have established who have self inflicted their Type 2 diabetes, significantly raise the price of that medication and certainly remove it from eligibility from the Seniors' Health Card, which is costing the rest of the community hundreds of millions of dollars, in perpetuity.
    So many of those "self-inflicted" diabetics simply take that medication BUT CONTINUE with the same lifestyle that caused the condition in the first place!!!
    These people not only continue with the medication, continue with the same lifestyle but also continue to return to their GP for regular "monitoring"!!

    And we wonder why the health budget has exploded!!!!!

    I bet you will then see many more people walking instead of just hopping in the car and giving up all of their biscuits and mid meal snacks VERY QUICKLY!!!

    Called TOUGH LOVE!!!!
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:07pm
    Paulodapotter
    Whilst genetics seem to play some part in this (as any) issue they are NOT the determining factor.
    Genes may LOAD the Gun but "Your Lifestyle" fires the bullets.
    YOU'RE STILL IN CONTROL and need to accept responsibility!
    More info can be found by typing in Bruce Lipton on YouTube.
    He is a scientist who - after some 40 years - finally is achieving some recognition & validation of his research!
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    1:37pm
    The problem with your solution Grateful of increasing the medication cost, is that the same medication is used by the minority who did not 'self-inflict' the condition.

    Removing the concession health card is an interesting solution but what do you do with those who have Type 2 diabetes AND some other chronic illness? Or does the diabetes 'trump' everything else?

    Perhaps as with cigarettes, high sugar, low nutritional foods should come with a graphic picture on the packet and a much higher price!
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:40pm
    KSS
    Agree
    Grateful
    19th Feb 2015
    4:30pm
    KSS. You are right, but, my suggestion places responsibility on the GP. If they legitimately diagnose Type 2 diabetes in their patient and can easily identify that it is "lifestyle" and thus, self inflicted, the the GP simply does not provide a prescription for the medication, or, stipulates on the prescription that it is not under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and that the full price has to be paid. Soon get changes in "lifestyle"!!!! But, needs GP's with integrity.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    4:49pm
    Gratefull
    A month after I had my Gangrenous GalBladder removed I went to my doctor. I would have hoped that HE would have rang me suggesting to come and see him as there may be other factors that were wrong and needed some "Fine Tuning". Alas, no such Preventative medicine.

    I told him which tests I wanted and he generated the paperwork.
    I asked him if - now not being able to STORE bile - if I should routinely take Bile Salts (which I already ordered from Canada) and he suggested that, as they were not on the Government list, he could not comment on that question!
    He suggested to definately eat margarine (transfat) as this was the recommendation of the Heart Foundation and he printed out this page of their website.
    Coconut oIL also was "Not on his List".
    I have not been to a medico since but, when the need arises, I certainly will not re-visit this Government SLAVE.
    ONLY COLLECTIVELY WILL WE BE ABLE TO FIGHT GOVERNMENT INSTILLED CRAP LIKE THAT. Fear of being deregistered, fear of being different, fear, fear, fear.
    It is the Government's driver that will subject us to SLAVERY!

    In my younger days I would have "Picked him up by the Scruff of the neck" and held him against the wall whlist "Working him Over".

    The StoryLine now is: "How can we (generally) be expected to have the "drive & understanding " to take responsibility for our own actions when the Government - obviously - so actively promotes this not to happen.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    7:03pm
    Sadly Patriot some 'mainstream' medical professionals are not up to date with the latest research - partly because it often comes from overseas then needs to be repeated here to pass Australian standards. This is particularly true where non medical solutions may be available e.g. Exercise physiology, nutritional support, naturopathy, and even acupuncture. The moral is we have to be our own health advocates. We also shouldn't expect any medical professional to know everything about everything. With the advent of Dr Google, we can all research our conditions, be discerning about the source of the information and then discuss it with our GPs. As long as it is not going to harm us, then go for it. It might just work.
    Poppysmum
    20th Feb 2015
    12:09pm
    I hear you, Paulodapotter - I was diagnosed with Type2 Diabetes in 2003 - I am not overweight, I have a normal BMI, I exercise, I have not suffered any damage at all from the disease. So what would Grateful recommend for me? BTW yes, there is Diabetes Type 2 in previous generations on both sides of my family. I abhor the previous suggestions to raise the price of medications - totally self righteous diatribe.
    Precious 1
    22nd Feb 2015
    8:31pm
    Alcohol is the perpetrator if not hereditary factors so probably BOTH...many friends of mine say exactly the same...You`ll never get the people off the drink and cases will be astronomical eventually meaning some will just die with no diagnosis.......
    Harry
    19th Feb 2015
    12:39pm
    There seems little doubt that a sedentary lifestyle combined with massive intakes of carbohydrates is perhaps the most important contributor to the Type 2 diabetes epidemic. But Type 1 diabetes has also seen tremendous growth over the same period, and no one knows why. The onset of T1 diabetes seems to have nothing to do with the lifestyle of the sufferer, and occurs most often in young people (which is why it is sometimes called juvenile diabetes). My son, for example, developed the condition at age 2.

    But back to T2. It's time we insisted that government brought in strict controls on the food industry's practice of lacing many foods with various sugars. It now also seems likely that our nutritionists have overemphasise the importance of carbohydrates in the diet, and fats are no longer taboo.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    1:40pm
    Whilst there may be a case to be made Harry re the sugar issue (which I strongly support by the way) there is such a thing as personal responsibility. Adults make their own choices about what they put in their mouths. If they decide to make poor choices then so be it. There is such a thing as personal responsibility but the health costs to the community will continue to increase if they don't make changes to their lifestyle.

    However, making anything with an ingredient list that reads like a chemistry experiment more expensive is appropriate in my opinion. Or perhaps look at it the other way, make fresh foods less expensive to encourage more sales there. And particularly in regional, rural and remote areas where fresh food, if available, is very expensive.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:47pm
    KSS,
    If/when making JUNK more expensive, such should be a "SurCharge" which is collected by OUR Government and MUST flow directly into the Budget items supporting MEDICARE.
    NO CONSOLIDATED REVENUE CRAP.
    heyyybob
    19th Feb 2015
    2:00pm
    Dead right KSS. Your life - YOUR responsibility. If, by now, the majority of the population doesn't have an idea of what (food/lifestyle) is wrong for YOUR health and your longevity on this planet then a helluva lot of taxpayers money has been wasted :( Majority of us need to get up off our fat bums and put (literally) more effort into maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Eat better, eat LESS, exercise as best you can and DO take responsibility for YOUR life. It is yours and yours alone ;) Before anyone starts going on about 'those who have no choice, no chance, genetically this 'n that etc' I am referring to the millions who DO have the choice to lead healthier and longer lives but who CHOOSE to take the simpler and lazier path. Iss ssimple, yes ??
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    2:05pm
    KSS,
    Such Surcharge also should be applied to TakeAway places.

    OOPS - We cannot do that as we might get sued after signing the Trans Pacific Trade Agreement!
    After all - even without signing that agreement - Phillip Morris is suing Australia in an International Court for "Loss of Income" because WE - via the Australian Govt. - have legislated to put "Health Warnings" on Cigarette Packets.

    HUh - What's the whining I am starting to hear.
    Oh - its the Corporations (already) who are just starting to ring their "Stooges in Canberra" to prevent such a SurCharge!
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    2:11pm
    heyyybob
    Not what the Pollies are looking for at all.
    Fancy taking control of your own life!?!?!? Where does this leave them???
    Also, reduce the "Bottom Line" of the Corporations?? Naughty!
    That's why there are problems for makinf your suggestions come true.
    heyyybob
    19th Feb 2015
    2:17pm
    Patriot. If you wait for the majority of politicians, bureaucrats, money grubbing corporations and their shareholders etc to have sense of responsibility for YOUR health and longevity then you WILL die an old man/woman ;) Oooops, what am I saying ??
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    2:32pm
    heyyybob
    AGREED That's why I'm NOT
    That's why I'm attemting to promote that we don't wait for them BUT TELL THEM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
    This for our sake & the sake of those who come after us, is OUR RIGHT & DUTY as per Australian Constitution.
    This document has not been LEGALLY changed/abandoned as yet via a referendum so LET's keep them to it!
    THIS IS WHERE OUR POWER IS - and It's LEGITIMATE!!!
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:01pm
    UNFORTUNATELY, THIS POSTING WILL BE SOMEWHAT LONGER THAN 8 LINES:

    Now here's an excellent opportunity for OUR politicians to EXERT their (Love For) Authority and - at the same time - save millions of dollars on the Health Budget and preserve the dignity of many of the people they - SUPPOSEDLY - SERVE!

    Dr. Fuhrman lists: "the 6 worst food for diabetes"
    1 Added Sugars
    Since the "War on Fats" took the flavour out of our supermarket foods, concentrated sugar was added as a "flavour enhancer". Whilst the "Tide has Turned" and we now are starting to agree that (good) Fats are an extremely important part of a healthy diet, the manufacturers are still contaminating the produce we buy from the supermarkets with the highly ADDICTIVE & DEADLY substance that is called sugar.
    2 Refined grain products
    Grain products were starting to be refined because of almost infinite "Shelf-Life". "Bugs" are smarter than us as they refuse to eat it as it "Does NOT sustain Life".
    On the other hand, "Whole Grains" contain anti nutrients like Phytoacids and Enzyme Inhibitors that are designed to protect the seed but cause a depletion of minerals in the food we eat whilst they also "deactivate" some of the digestive enzymes in our gut.
    3 Fried foods
    The Transfats used by "Takeaway" food restaurants (???) are deadly and so are many of the "Flavour Enhancers many of these elect to use (Neurotoxins).
    Frying - in general - has the ability to add "Carcinogens" to the food by overheating (Burning) processes that occur.
    4 Transfats
    Despite margarine, most cooking oils & many pre-prepared meals (are individual items) are "Full of Them". Despite their deadly legacy, the "Heart Foundation" still promotes many of them as healthy.
    5 Red & Processed meats
    "Back Home" - on the subsistence farm - meat was on the menu 2 to 3 times per week if we were lucky (???). This limitation whilst we "Killed our Own". The quantity was the size of your hand (max.) rather than the "Slab of T-Bone" most of us (including undersigned up until 10 years ago).
    When one gets diagnosed with cancer, the first restriction usually is "Red Meat". What SHOULD this tell you.
    Processed meats (salami & ham for instance) contain some very unpalatable additives.
    6 Whole eggs
    One of my personal "Vices" as I eat quite a few more than recommended. However, they are from free range hens that get ample "Green Feed" and they "Fill in" some of the gaps/opportunities left by meticulous adherence to the first 5 points.

    The above discussion is "Well Accepted" in just about ALL circles concerned with HEALTH. Of course the industries associated with the above products are in "Noncommittal & Denial" modes as facing the truth would adversely affect the "Bottom Line" of their enterprise.
    Governments - generally - being controlled by the Giant Corporations associated with the Food Industry, protects these organisations rather than protecting the citizens! After all, since incorporation, rules have been introduced the Law MUST treat Corporations just like people as they have identical rights!!! HOW SAD IS THAT!!!

    Now that we have analysed (some of) the problem, let's examine what OUR government could/should (???) Do on these points.
    0 EDUCATE - EDUCATE - EDUCATE The Taxpayer!!!
    1 Legislate to retain Healthy Fats in our food and ensure that Concentrated Sugars as additives become illegal!. BAN Artificial Sugar substitutes (Aspartame and others) as these are DEADLY as their attempt to be metabolised by our bodies result in formaldehyde byproducts.
    Wonder why the worms won't even eat us after we "get Planted".
    2 Only "Whole Grain" products on the shelves with financial incentives provided for bakeries that are prepared to introduce processes which counteract the anti nutrients in our breads in order to return (at least) this item to - once again - become the "Staff of Life". Unwholesome "White Death" products should attract penalties implemented via legislation. ADD IODINE!!!!!
    3 As a minimum legislate against TRANSFATS and tightly regulate MANY of the food Additives utilised in this industry
    4 Even the EVIL organisation called the FDA in the USofA has been forced to legislate against TRANSFATS. Is the dignity of Australian lives less important ???
    5 Whilst the meat industry is highly profitable, it is also extremely damaging to the environment, animal welfare & Human health.
    Feedlots should be "Shut Down" because of:
    A Animal welfare/cruelty issues
    B Grains used for feed are unnatural to the animal's diet and therefore create acid bodies which lay down WRONG Fats (Omega 6 and not Omega 3's) & necessitate excessive use of antibiotics (we're eating them) to sustain these animals as a living entity until they are ready for slaughter.
    C Legislate against the use of additives in salami etc. (at home we ate salami all year without any preservatives) and sprays in shops to make OLD meat look fresh!
    6 Eggs, well I'm convicted. My argument is that I did not have much of a chance on this one as I was born on an organic chook farm.
    Abandon cages which - automatically - will abandon 95% of antibiotic use and provide access to green & bug foods.

    WHY WE WILL HAVE PROBLEMS TO GET IT DONE
    1 It will HURT major Industrial Corporations who LOBBY the Government all the time and effectively are protected
    2 It will HURT the Medical Industry & Big Pharma as we will be getting healthier rather than sicker and so, we might become harder to convince to take their drugs which do not cure anyway
    3 Whilst our existence on this planet may not be extended by much, life itself will certainly be extended by many years as it will become more rare that we take the last decades of our lives (???) to die. Existing in an undignified manner CANNOT be classified as LIVING in my opinion. Such would also - just by this item - reduce the suffering/burden of our loved ones who (hopefully) do not enjoy us suffering for many years!
    4 Reduction of the "Aged Care" costs which will reduce Corporate profits in this area also
    5 Pollies will SEE their powers being reduced & slowly "Slipping Away).

    WHAT YOU CAN DO
    1 Grow some of your own food. Even a Balcony can grow health giving herbs. Ample info on the web. Eat more raw food as our enzyme activity reduces as we get older and absorption of nutrients will be maximum at high enzyme activity.
    2 Go to farmers markets and get much fresher rather than processed food. Not only will you support your own health but also the AUSSIE farmers rather than Corporate - usually - foreign owned - conglomerates.
    3 Get into fermentation of food to supplement your enzyme, vitamin & mineral supply naturally and repopulated the Bacterial Cultures" that are SUPPOSED to live in your gut! Your quality of LIFE will improve SO MUCH!
    4 Grind & bake your own breads in the "Old fashioned" manner to eliminate the unhealthy aspects of grain consumption
    5 Get a few chooks in the backyard (if you have one). Your own fresh eggs, produce pets and reduce "land Fill". Whilst it probably will not save much money, you'll be amazed at the flavour of the eggs!
    6 Make your own "Small Goods" if you really need/want them
    7 Use (Cold Pressed) olive & Coconut oils only! Olive oils for salad dressings (once again make your own-no preservatives and much nicer) and Coconut for cooking & medicinal consumption (as amongst other issues it is claimed to negotiate the onset & cure of Alzheimer's)

    FINALLY
    Many of the above can be made into projects that involve other members of the family (kids & Grand kids) and so RECONNECT them (& US) with the REAL world again!

    And finally, stay on this planet for as long as possible & in GOOD HEALTH just to annoy the Bast**DS in Canberra.
    After all, we (collectively) have not don OUR duty to "Keep the BAST**DS honest" so now is our duty to resolve this issue rather than leave it for our (grand) kids to escape from the SLAVERY they are enforcing upon us!

    VISIT A POLITICIAN TODAY AND - IF NECESSARY - HARASS HIM/HER TO HAVE THESE ISSUES "HEARD & DEALT WITH".
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    1:12pm
    Phew! Patriot most of what you say just won't happen.

    I think the most expedient demand should be for truth in labelling. This should cover everything from country of origin of ingredients, to health claims, to nutritional content and the ingredient list. And print it all in text that can be actually read in the supermarket without a magnifying glass!

    However on the egg front. Keep eating. There is nothing wrong with eggs including the yoke where most of the good stuff is. The one time baddie - cholesterol- has now been acknowledged as bunkum. So enjoy them guilt free:-)
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    1:13pm
    Patriot, why do you spoil a perfectly sensible article with your final remarks about the Bastards in Canberra? Can't help yourself, can you?
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:19pm
    KSS,
    Agree with the eggs - That's why I keep sinning!
    Mine are grown in "The BackYard".
    I wasn't quite prepared to "Cop" a Backlash" on this issue by disagreeing with an Aushority on such matters!

    Agree that LABELLING in a "Meaningfull Manner" is a start. However, just observe the problems with GMO labelling in the USofA.
    Monsanto is mighty Powerfull & MEAN!!!
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:20pm
    Oldi81
    Why call a Spade a Shovel???
    The Pollies in Canberra are certainly NOT working for us and enhancing our freedoms. Instead they are legislating us into slavery!
    I think that calling them BAST**RD if very mild.
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    3:07pm
    Ah well. :-(
    MITZY
    19th Feb 2015
    4:22pm
    Patriot: Well put and valid points. However, until the person has one foot in the grave they will not even attempt to change their lifestyles. Two good quotes from somewhere in my past indicate: "If you're green inside, you're clean inside" and "We dig our graves with our knives and forks". I used to spend a fair bit of time in the supermarket reading the labels on everything, until it took me half the time to shop there once I directed my feet to the fresh food section. (I was around 40 years of age at the time - now I'm approaching 74).

    Truth in labelling will not work for certain sectors of the population as they don't have time to read the labels, they live in a "frantic" world and to keep them going they consume heaps of coffee and other stimulants. Mums balancing toddlers on shopping trolleys etc. will not read labels they want to get in and out of the supermarket with screaming kids as quickly as possible, and of course when you're young your "immortal"; poor people will not read labels - they will look for the cheapest items on the shelves and the cheapest meats etc. and we all know what the ingredients in cheap products contain.

    You would have a "captive" audience on what you have written from this website's frequent visitors because the majority of them would be in their twilight years with a fair few medical problems and willing to listen to their doctor and extend their lifetime a decade or two longer. I read once that we could all live to 120 years doing the right thing. However, probably it would be a bit lonely reaching 120 years when all our friends and family had departed earlier due to the motto
    "I'm not here for a long time, just here for a good time".

    If what you have written helps even a small contingent then it is well worthwhile.
    Exercise, not smoking, moderate alcohol but preferably none, meditation, yoga, deep breathing and a sensible fresh food diet nuts and seeds (unsalted) and smaller portions all help. I read we should throw away our large dinner plates and eat our meals off an entrée plate. The meat, fish, chicken etc. should only be the size of the "palm" of your hand and the rest of the plate full of salads and/or vegetables. You should wait 10 minutes after eating this small meal and if you are still hungry eat a tiny amount more followed by a piece of fruit. Drink between one and two litres of water per day and avoid caffeine.

    It would be nice for any of the sufferers with diabetes to RIGIDLY stick to a programme like this for exactly one month and report back to you via this website to announce the results of this experiment. A month gives you plenty of time to turn yourself around and the benefits of how you feel when completed encourages you to keep doing it, it becomes a "lifestyle".
    Cheers.
    Precious 1
    22nd Feb 2015
    8:38pm
    Not a mention of Alcohol..........
    Oldie84
    23rd Feb 2015
    11:23am
    You are absolutely right Mitzy, but is it really worth the few days more in exchange for the misery you have to inflict on yourself? :-(
    I do things in moderation But will not spent the rest of my few years (days) like a monk.
    Paul241
    19th Feb 2015
    1:02pm
    I despair when I heard on 2 ABC news reports about "preventable type 2 diabetes". I suffer(?) from inherited T2. It is controlled very well by medication and what I and my doctor think is a good lifestyle. I'm advised by very wise people that there is no cure and it is doubtful I could have ever prevented it. People still express surprise when I tell them I have got T2. I am a male, over 60. I'm not overweight, relatively fit, eat sensibly and drink very little alcohol, I have never smoked. The perception is that if you areT2 you are fat, lazy, smoke heavily and only have yourself to blame. A meeting with a diabetes educator was a waste of time when she advised me there was,little she could advise me on unless I was overweight and smoked. Education is certainly needed to slow down this epidemic but we have to temper this with the fact that genetics are a very powerful fact of life. Sometimes the educators need educating rather that go for a sensational headline that frustrate some of us.
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    1:20pm
    I understand you well, Paul.
    Kopernicus
    23rd Feb 2015
    6:23pm
    Paul, you represent a small minority of type 2. I am really amazed at your experience with the DE, you should have been thru diabetes management targets, monitoring of BGL's, complications monitoring, medications etc etc. Try another one cause the name of the game is self management, the more you know, the better you can implement the ideal regime. Seeing a dietitian is the other side of the coin.
    Perhaps in the future, despite your best efforts, your treatment may include medications (cause you already have good weight and activity level) and ultimately insulin. This is not a mark of failure, but choosing a regime that affords adequate contriol of the diabetes.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:03pm
    DON'T BE A GUTLESS WONDER - JUST DO IT - VISIT A POLITICIAN AND IMFORM HIM /HER OF "YOUR WILL".
    This is YOUR RIGHT & DUTY as per the Australian Constitution!
    Harry
    19th Feb 2015
    1:03pm
    Coincidentally, this article in today's Fairfax press emphasises the importance of fibre in the diet...
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/the-one-food-that-can-help-you-lose-weight-20150219-13iape.html.html
    Even though fibre is a carbohydrate, its effect is negative on insulin requirements (besides fibre being of essential health value). In Australia, this negative effect is taken into account in the Nutrition Information on packaged food, so the carbohydrate content reported is the effective content; whereas in the USA, the fibrous carbohydrate content is listed separately, and you have to subtract it from the total carbohydrate content to find the effective content (which is what determines how much insulin is needed to digest it).
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:12pm
    Harry,
    TWO types of fibre
    Insoluble - Acts as a broom in the intestinal tract
    Soluble - Binds cholesterol and other indesirable substances and SLOWS release of sugars produced from carbohydrates via the digestive processes
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    1:28pm
    You are talking about glycaemic load here Harry and that is not taken into account on packaging labelling even with those that sport the glycaemic index logo. Quite simply manufacturers do not have to list the fibre content of the product in Australia. They MUST show the fat and carbohydrate (sugar) content though. That is why for example a can of chick peas will not necessarily show the fibre content when clearly they have a good fibre rating.

    The USA food supply is even worse than Australia. Especially with the high fructose corn syrup in just about everything. That never really took hold here - although adding sugar certainly did. There are even more 'fake' foods there and lots of it!
    MITZY
    19th Feb 2015
    4:32pm
    The sugar content in the manufactured foods has undergone so much testing by these chemical magicians who assist the food manufacturers with their test trials that they now have the "right" "ideal" "to-die-for" taste test applied to the sugars.
    If you were to consume sugar (say a couple of tablespoons) in its finished processing state it would make you feel sick, however after being chemically balanced it has just the right taste to make you keep coming back for more.
    How is this allowed? The hidden sugar is "lurking" everywhere without it being doctored to our taste buds.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    6:54pm
    Yes Mitzy, food manufacturers call it the 'bliss-point'. Its the point where the sweetness is such that you want more. Any less and you could leave the product alone. Any more and it is sickly and unpleasant. They aim for that quite literally 'sweet-spot'.
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    1:19pm
    It's not quite so simple, I have lived with Type2 now for on to 25 years or so. I stopped work in my seventies, always active, reasonable eater and drinker. Had not even heard of the disease until a routine Health check, something I did every two years, brought it out. After that of course I found out a lot of people I knew had it. Nobody actually spoke about it. Why I got ? No one could tell me, I regularly did Aerobics, swimming, weight training and when younger Squash. You tell me.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    3:01pm
    About 40% of Type 2 diabetes diagnoses are not caused by lifestyle factors.

    It was always something that if it came, came with age. That's why it used to be known as 'adult onset diabetes.' The risk factor increases over the age of 55 generally, over the age of 45 if they are overweight or have high blood-pressure, and for some over 35 their ethnic background is a serious risk factor e.g. Aboriginal, Chinese or Indian to name a few.

    The change from not calling it 'adult onset diabetes' came because younger and younger people were being diagnosed. Now children are developing it - unheard of just a few years ago.

    You are doing great controlling it for so long oldie81 but keep up the activity and most importantly weight-training. That has been proven by Baker IDI in Melbourne to be more effective than aerobic exercise for controlling diabetes.
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    3:05pm
    Thanks KSS :-)
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    3:50pm
    KSS

    Whilst it is not easy to find Australian data on the subject, I think that we all agree that the American Diet has deteriorated in a somewhat similar manner.

    I assume that your reference to : "About 40% of Type 2 diabetes diagnoses are not caused by lifestyle factors." . . . . Means (assumption) that these are genetic factors. You fail to clearly specify this.

    I refer to the link below with American Statistics on the subject:
    Http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fdiabetes%2Fstatistics%2Fslides%2Flong_term_trends.pdf&ei=-mHlVNSjEoia8QWQ_IGQDw&usg=AFQjCNFpGKhHQWUsAiOpcIstaTRqDcaLWw&sig2=6Vcvy2DAcqt6pFLUw825RQ&bvm=bv.85970519,d.dGc

    1958 0.93% of the population had diabetes
    2010 6.95% of the population had diabetes

    As the report does not distinguish, I assume that I & II are included in this report.
    I personally believe that 1958 forms the Baseline with Diabetes I (mainly) being related to many other factors additional to nutrition.

    If your suggestion is correct, genetics has deteriorated by a factor of (7.5 @ 40%) equals to a factor of THREE times as being the change in Human Genetic Material relating to susceptibility to Diabetes.
    Either Evolution or Creation MUST be allocated to be the cause of such a massive genetic change could NOT take place in such a Relatively short time.
    I am convinced that NEITHER of these ASSUMPTIONS is correct and that the "Change in Diet" is the cause of this.

    Colin T. Campbell went to the Philippines with the objective to increase the Protein in the diet of the children to "Bring them better health". He found that, kids of the affluent families (diets much richer in animal protein) , were the ones affected with health problems (diabetes etc.) rather than those from the poor families (diets much richer in Plant proteins and nearly void of Animal protein). Protein intake overall was also considerably lower. In other words he disproved his own Hypothesis and, as a TRUE Scientist & Researcher reported & admitted such.

    I can only assume that the deterioration in the American statistics is caused by making the SAD diet MORE SAD. The Australian diet has followed much the same FATE and - in my opinion - if generally not much LESS SAD.

    Because of these Logical assumptions, I have to agree with Dr. Bruce Lipton that genetics may load some bullets in the chamber of the gun BUT LIFESTYLE pulls the trigger in "Just About" ALL of the cases.

    Such - in my opinion - is proven by oldi81 and I congratulate him on his wisdom & intelligence to "Stave Off" the ultimate.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    7:10pm
    Patriot: Whilst there are similarities between the USA and Australia there are more differences especially in the food production area. Look at Diabetes Australia for local figures. Or go to Baker IDI the research unit in Melbourne for more data applicable to Australia.

    I agree that genetic predisposition to any condition does not mean it is inevitable. Knowing the genetic link is the start of improving the odds and in some cases beating them. As you say you may be holding a loaded gun but you don't have to pull the trigger.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    8:08pm
    And if you are looking for more evidence:

    "Update 2014". IDF. International Diabetes Federation.

    Williams textbook of endocrinology (12th ed.). Philadelphia: Elsevier/Saunders. pp. 1371–1435. ISBN 978-1-4377-0324-5.

    Shi, Yuankai; Hu, Frank B. "The global implications of diabetes and cancer". The Lancet 383 (9933): 1947–8. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(14)60886-2. PMID 24910221.

    Vos T, Flaxman AD, Naghavi M, Lozano R, Michaud C, Ezzati M, Shibuya K, Salomon JA, Abdalla S, Aboyans V, et al. (Dec 15, 2012). "Years lived with disability (YLDs) for 1160 sequelae of 289 diseases and injuries 1990–2010: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010.". Lancet 380 (9859): 2163–96. doi:10.1016/S0140-6736(12)61729-2. PMID 23245607.

    IDF DIABETES ATLAS (6th ed.). International Diabetes Federation. 2013. p. 7. ISBN 2930229853.
    Harry
    19th Feb 2015
    1:19pm
    I'm sorry, Patriot, but you and Dr Fuhrman are completely wrong about the impact of fats on diabetes. It's certainly true that an excess of fats can compromise your health (although maybe not as much as we thought), but they have zero impact on diabetes. As a diabetic, eating fat will not raise your blood sugar level - only carbohydrates (even good ones, like watermelon!) will do that.
    Let's be clear about the facts. A balance of carbs, fats and protein in the diet is essential to good health, but diabetics need to know that it's the quantity of carbs that is directly related to how much glucose in total is produced in the blood, and hence how much insulin in total is needed to process it; and it's the glycaemic index (GI - the rate at which the carbs are converted to glucose) that affects what the level of glucose will be at any time. For example, rice generally has a very high carbohydrate content, but white rice has a higher GI than brown rice, which is therefore preferable for keeping blood glucose levels even.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:33pm
    Harry,
    Agree GOOD FATS are an Essential part of life and are NOT detrimental.
    Whilst Fuhrman does Not Qualify, I assume that he refers to the TRANSFATS so prevalent in our supermarkets.
    For people with (a tendency towards) diabetis the Glycemic Load (includes both Index and Quantity is very important).
    With reference to your Brown Rice.
    White rice may be more nutritious than brown as the Antinutrients have been removed and therefore will NOT affect other food in your gut already.
    Brown Rice Should be Soakes/Fermented (as in olden days) in order to reduce the anti nutrients and classify it as a MUCH healthier food.
    Processes for this can be found on the web.
    Phytic Acids "Lock Up" minerals in the gut.
    Minerals are essential in the "Replication Processes of new DNA" as they are "the Glue" between the Codons in the DNA chains.
    Lack of adequate quantity & diversity of minerals leads to mutation in "Cell Regenerations" and consequently to degenerative diseases.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    2:02pm
    Patriot there can be too much reliance on the glycaemic index when choosing foods. The glycaemic index simply measures the amount of glucose in the blood an individual substance will produce. The base mark is pure glucose which has a rating of 100. The slower the glucose is detected in the blood, the lower the index number. We are encouraged to choose the lower numbered foods.

    The problem with this is that we rarely if ever, eat foods in isolation. A slice of white bread for example has a glycaemic index of 71 - the same as whole wheat bread by the way. 71 is a high glycaemic food and you would probably avoid it. But you wouldn't eat it by itself. You usually add something to it like butter, say ham and some salad? All of these extras alter the glycaemic load of that slice of bread. It would be absorbed more slowly because of the fat and fibre in the additions.

    Glycaemic load is a measure that takes into account the amount of carbohydrate in a portion of food together with how quickly it raises blood glucose levels.

    Basically things are more complex than is sometimes portrayed. If we were to shop the perimeter of the supermarket and stay out of the aisles, we would all do a lot better.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    9:50pm
    Harry,
    Fuhrman clearly states "Transfats". He does NOT refer to normal - natural - fats!!!
    Transfats are artificial fats made from oils by attaching one or more Hydrogen atoms to them. This makes them spreadable rather than liquid at room temperature.
    As they do NOT occur in a natural state in nature, our bodies do NOT recognise these structures and therefore CANNOT process & utilise them.
    They become a Burden to the system and are therefore harmfull.

    I make butter equivalent myself from High quality Butter (as raw as I can get it) and the finest quality of Virgin Olive Oil (cold Pressed).
    When these are mixed @ 50% ratio, this makes quite a pallatable spread for bread/toast.
    It's easily spreadable straight from the fridge and, as one can select high quality ingredients, the integrity of the endproduct is KNOWN!
    ballaratboy
    19th Feb 2015
    1:42pm
    Gee, there are a lot of medical experts posting here today, lol.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    1:50pm
    ballaratboy
    Participate & don't attempt to frustrate!
    "Prove Wrong" & be positive sothat ALL of us "Get-it-Right".
    I classify your input sofar as "Condecending, Totally Negative & CounterProductive".
    There you go!
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    2:07pm
    Just as there are a lot of politicians on other days eh ballaratboy? ;-]
    Wader
    19th Feb 2015
    2:14pm
    I was diagnosed as "insulin resistant" 15 years ago and told it was the first step towards diabetes. After a lot of reading which I won't bore you with, I'm convinced by the idea that some people simply tolerate carbs less well than others, have have been like that all their lives, reaching eventually a tipping point of reistance. Like many , my childhood diet was largely home/farm grown whole food, high in complex carbs, varied protein and lots of fruit & veg. Adult diet included the "energy giving" high carb cerial, morning tea biscuit, lunchtime sandwich, afternoon tea cake, dinnertime potatoes, and so it went on until I became less well even though eating what I thought was varied good healthy food.

    To lessen the insulin surges that the diagnosis said my system couldn't cope with, I just keep on an even keel by moderating carbs. I lead a moderately active life but do not "exercise" as such. I don't have diabetes but am still insulin resistant and always will be. Are we talking about two separate issues as some believe?
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    2:39pm
    Insulin resistance is generally the precursor to Type 2 diabetes - the warning sign if you will. The fact that you have not developed diabetes after 15 years shows you must be doing something right. You have at least maintained your condition. For many, taking action in the insulin resistance stage can reverse the condition completely which is why there is so much information about it.

    The foods you were eating as an adult as you now know were high sugar foods even if they were masquerading as healthy. You've done well to arrest the deterioration of your condition.
    Harry
    19th Feb 2015
    2:19pm
    @Ballaratboy - When you are a T1 diabetic, or your son or daughter is one, you need to know a lot about managing it. Ignorance is not an option.

    @Patriot - Lighten up!
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    2:37pm
    Harry,
    I have compassion for your situation.
    And no, I won't "Lighten up' on cases like ballaratBoy as remarks such as this/hers are downright uncalled for.
    If I'm wrong - prove it and I've learned something.
    Stop the Purposely frustrating remarks without positive imput!
    Young Simmo
    19th Feb 2015
    3:39pm
    OK, I am probably going off at a tangent here, but it's supposed to be a free country so I'll do it anyway.
    I am 75 and had Type 2 for at least 6 or 7 years, which causes my Peripheral Neuropathy, which is never ending burning stinging feet. I have tried about 5 different tablets, stick on plasters, special socks and a foot massager. Nothing has helped and I know I am no Orphan when it comes to this problem. If any one has had an ounce of success at getting some comfort from this by product of type 2 Diabettes please share your secret.
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    3:47pm
    Sorry Young Simmo, can't help you there. It's weird, these effects, I have swollen ankles nowadays. Normal when I get up fine, but by midday swollen.
    Can just hope nothing more serious comes along.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    4:09pm
    Oldie81
    I suggest that Collection of Lymphatic fluid (congestion) is causing your feet/ankles to swell. Lymphatic Fuild runs along similar lines as your (blood) veins. However, the lymphatic system does not have a pump as such and excercising on a lymphasiser (small trampoline) oR just plain walking gets is going and moves the fluid around the system. Deep rather than Shallow (as we just about ALL do) breathing moves the diaprAgm (MIDRIF) which then acts as a pump.
    Fatty Liver problems may also contribute.
    I have had the same problem for many (about 20) years and the medicos were not capable to find the cause of it. I kept assuring them that it was not: "A shortage of PIlls".
    Finally - a few years ago - I was "Laid Up" with a gangrenous GalBladder as a 30mm Rock was formed in the Neck of this organ.
    Can you imaging the accumulation of toxins in the Inter-Cellular System of the body which was and "Overload" to the Lymphatic system.

    My problem has now much reduced and I am currently (I hope) resolving the final problems with 3 to 4 glasses of organic vegetable juice per day which included Freshly grown Barley grass.
    Also vegetarian (exept the odd sin) and totally organic unprocessed foods.
    This supplemented with fermented foods to re-establish essential beneficial GUT Bacterial Cultures.
    It's not the Years but the quality of them that counts!

    As my "Old Man" used to say: "You'll pay for your GOOD TIMES when you get as old as I am". HE WAS RIGHT!!!
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    6:22pm
    Thanks Patriot. I don't do much walking (other then move a lot around the property) because at my age my feet are protesting. I'll add a few of your suggestions but other than Yoghurt and cucumbers I can't think of many. At least my heart is not the problem. Echo-cardiogram says so).
    Young Simmo
    19th Feb 2015
    6:55pm
    Yeh Oldie81, I also share your foot probs. Not sure exactly when they blow up but by most nights they are real balloons, the left being a bit bigger than the right. Most mornings when I get up they are skinny tight shrunken things covered in black veins. Does that ring a bell?
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    7:17pm
    Young Simmo and Oldie81 check this out from the Mayo Clinc - very reputable :-)

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/peripheral-neuropathy/basics/alternative-medicine/con-20019948

    If anything is of interest do a bit more research on it and see what you think. Can't do any harm....
    Young Simmo
    19th Feb 2015
    7:41pm
    Thanks KSS, I just popped in there, and there is a lot to read and check up on. Actually I blame myself for my current problem, as Alcohol pops up all the time when reading about Peripheral Neuropathy. After spending about 30 years in the West Australian Goldfields, and drinking in excess of 15 cans every single day and more on Sat and Sundays, I never gave a thought to what was waiting for me. It probably wouldn't have made any difference even if somebody had warned me, as we live for today.
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    11:14pm
    Yep, exactly the same but without the veins. Doctor gave me some pills to reduce the fluid. Helped some but not much. :-)
    Oldie84
    19th Feb 2015
    11:18pm
    Thanks KSS, will check it out in the morning. My alcohol intake is 99% a glass with tea at night. Only drank to excess (and then some) in my young years.

    19th Feb 2015
    4:23pm
    I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes some years ago and said to the doctor what happens and what do i do to prevent or get rid of it and be direct tell me the truth.She told me I could go blind they might have to chops bits of me off and my teeth might fall out.(most are gone anyway).
    She also said you are miles too fat go on a diet and see the dietician next door so I did and she sorted me out. I cut out sugar' no takeaways eat fruit and did some exercise.
    It took me a good three years but I lost around 25 kilos not that easy in your sixties.
    I still diet to this day but only during the week and on weekends I am able to have a beer and perhaps eat a few naughty things without going overboard.
    This fixed me and I don"t have type 2 any more thank goodness.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    7:22pm
    That's the beauty of it Robo, it can be reversed in many people if only they would listen and act as you obviously did. Well done.
    ranga
    19th Feb 2015
    4:39pm
    Eliminating fructose from the diet, and that means limiting dietary intake to low fructose fruits - not many of those. Eliminate vegetable oils aka pretend oil as in oils ain't oils.....
    Cost of diabetes to nation !! when offered 2 blood glucose monitors, free of charge, from 2 different sources, within a month certainly ups that figure, so too - see the diabetes nurse this week, then check back with your doctor next week. Mmmmm?
    RSS
    19th Feb 2015
    5:14pm
    A lot of hoo ha has been going on for a number of years about food & what's good for you. Food should be simple, fresh, without additives, no processing & grass fed beef, chicken, lamb. We have to go back to basics....none of these highly processed b/fast cereals, which are full of sugar & have absolutely no nutrition in them. Eggs are the go healthy & filling & also fruit or vegetable smoothies. Fats are no longer the 'bad guy' in all this, SUGAR is. People are too busy & are looking for easy ways out. Cooking at home can be simple - you don't have to produce gourmet type meals. Just healthy wholesome meals with lots of veggies. Bread is another killer especially for Type 2 diabetics, and also too much fruit(fructose). Everything in moderation, if one eats correctly, you will not have the 'munchies' at 10am & 3pm as food has to be nutrient dense. You can use cheaper cuts of meat(grass fed).....slow cooking is great for these, & it is not necessarily more expensive, there is less waste. There are going to be more obese people around & T2 Diabetes is going to escalate if something isn't done about all this processed food. Just look at the fat bellies in both men & women !! Back to basics....grow your own veggies, or visit Farmers Markets, have some chickens for eggs, & buy milk (full cream) from a reputable dairy farmer & support the good work that they are trying to do. People have to remember that fat is not BAD for you - low fat stuff is worse - all sorts of processing there to make it low fat, but the carbs are higher !!
    I basically have full fat yoghurt(organic), make my own ricotta with full cream milk & cream, eat some of the fat off my meats(grain fed where possible) & I make beautiful chicken or beef stock. A mug of that is lovely instead of a coffee sometimes. I have a slightly high cholesterol reading but am not too worried as the ratios are OK.
    There has to be a switch around.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    5:26pm
    In other words.
    Our parents & before them knew what they were doing.
    The world was a place with much increased personal values & dignity then.
    Life was much simpler and more enjoyable when we did not have to "Keep Up" with the Joneses!
    STUFF THE BANKERS === WE SHOULD SUE THEM!!!!!
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    7:27pm
    Yes RSS but I think you mean eat grass fed meat NOT grain fed. They feed cattle grain to fatten them up!

    Basically shop the perimeter of the supermarket. If your Great-Grandmother wouldn't recognise it, don't eat it.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    7:39pm
    Guys,
    Michael Pollen suggests NOT to eat anything with a "BarCode'.
    Similar to what you suggest KSS.
    In other words, go back to basics as a few others have promoted!
    Young Simmo
    19th Feb 2015
    7:46pm
    That's right, eating BarCodes causes NARROW VISSION.
    You know, what politicians all have.
    ekbg2002
    19th Feb 2015
    5:35pm
    I think a distinct difference needs to be made here regarding Diabetes Type One and Diabetes Type Two.....having partner with Diabetes Type One since in early 20's, on insulin, strict weight carb diet.......we find many people with diabetes type two believe they have "the same thing" and THEY DON'T!
    Pleased to read figures % in type one diabetes (which is often genetic) and type two (which is normally life style)? I think labelling it just as 'DIABETES" is not right.....Diabetes Type Two ought to have a different name.
    My mum and cousin and Diabetes Insipidus which is to do with pituarity gland and again nurses just don't get it, even testing her blood sugar levels.....
    Just a thought - an article stating "diabetes" leads people to believing diabetes 1, 2, insipidus - are all the same thing, and they certainly aren't.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    7:56pm
    You are correct of course ekgb2002 and the distinction between Types I and 2 was brought up at the beginning of this thread.

    Diabetes Insipidus involves a different hormone i.e. not insulin but antidiuretic hormone (ADH) which is made in the hypothalamus in the brain not the pancreas and stored in the pituitary gland. Diabetes Insipidus affects about 3 in 100,000 and affects the kidneys and water storage in the body not blood glucose levels.

    So it is much rarer which is why people get confused that's if they have even heard of Diabetes Insipidus. People get confused by Type 1 and 2 so not surprising really.
    KSS
    19th Feb 2015
    8:10pm
    I just want to say, how good is it when everyone plays nice'?

    No insults, no name calling just respectful and supportive posts.
    RSS
    19th Feb 2015
    8:27pm
    Yes, KSS I did mean grass fed. Poultry are the only ones to have some grain in their food, because that's what they eat, plus a few bugs & of course the veggie scraps ! I have a husband who has had T2 Diabetes for quite a few years & he has controlled it by minimum medication, exercise, & minimising carb & fructose intake. It can be done ! I don't think some dieticians get the picture either - that's what we've experienced.
    Patriot
    19th Feb 2015
    8:31pm
    KSS
    Respect for onanother's opinions weather you think they are right or wrong.
    As we both know, NOBODY is right ALL THE TIME
    ekbg2002
    19th Feb 2015
    8:48pm
    It's great isn't it KSS....I probably worded mine wrong, but was trying to say I believe Diabetes Type One and Diabetes Type Two "need" to be given different names, as people mistakingly believe when dx with type two they have type one and ask hubby for advise ... all the time ... LOL.
    gnasher
    19th Feb 2015
    9:10pm
    The pharmaceutical companies are laughing. I would like to see some research into NSAID drugs and the upswing in Type 2. I remember when there was only Brufen, then a swamping of the market with different brands, and don't get me onto the COX2 drugs. Yes, diet has a lot to do with obesity, but pharmaceuticals are an unknown quantity. Blame people for eating too much, we'll count our money.
    Paulodapotter
    19th Feb 2015
    11:29pm
    Having read most of the comments, I find that very few of you have an understanding of what Type 2 Diabetes is and particularly what inherited Type 2 is. The best explanation of the latter was given by Paul241 and Oldie81. Inherited Type 2 is not curable and many people have it despite a healthy lifestyle just like incurable Type 1. Very little distinction is made between inherited Type 2 and acquired Type 2. The increasing prevalence of acquired Type 2 is the main issue for our health services and any politically motivated carrot and stick manipulations would only result in more hardship for those who have incurable diabetes. It's better to look at lifestyle issues and education to make inroads into that dilemma. I have diet controlled Type 2, and there is no cure - only management. I'm lucky that my condition is not more severe and I hope that research will eventually find a cure for those less fortunate than myself.
    Anonymous
    20th Feb 2015
    11:42am
    I'm one of those people Paulodapotter who didn't fully understand. Thanks for explaining which lead me to google and get more information.

    20th Feb 2015
    8:48am
    I firmly believe that when the likes of McDonalds, KFC etc started up in this country that was the when we saw the rise in obesity and the rise in diabetes.

    Many do not cook any more and junk food makes up the majority of their diet.
    Oldie84
    20th Feb 2015
    1:41pm
    Maybe you are right with the rise of obesity but in my case I have never frequented these outlets. I hate that sort of food. I can never understand how parents let their children tuck into this stuff.
    Paulodapotter
    20th Feb 2015
    6:13pm
    Actually, there is little correlation between the advent of fast food and diabetes. Chew and spew has been with us since the middle ages. It's lifestyle that has changed. We are more sedentary now than ever before and part of that problem lies with stranger danger, TV and computers. Kids don't go out to play any more and they don't exercise until some of them get into the disco scene. Most people work in offices and those that don't, use machines where once brute force was used. We are still locked into the three meals a day syndrome, but our bodies don't require the level of intake. Culture has a significant influence on our food consumption.
    VicCherikoff
    20th Feb 2015
    12:56pm
    There seems to be so little understanding of the real culprit to diabetes and its source. We all know about good and bad fats. Well, we also have good and bad sugars. Sucrose is a bad sugar and half of the sucrose molecule is the mono-saccharide, fructose. This is the real BAD guy.

    Fructose does not stimulate insulin production by the pancreas and it gets
    Abby
    21st Feb 2015
    2:48pm
    It is sad that the Heart Foundation continues to issue Heart Ticks to foods that are laced with sugars.
    Patriot
    21st Feb 2015
    3:34pm
    And with Hydrogenated Fats
    Abby
    21st Feb 2015
    5:25pm
    It almost seems as if their ticks are sold for donations ???
    Young Simmo
    21st Feb 2015
    5:46pm
    Yes ABBY, and I believe it is something like $50,000 a time. Still just think how many people you can poison for that money, then it is all win, win for our doctors who put us before their bank books.
    Feel free to correct me if I am slightly wrong.
    Patriot
    21st Feb 2015
    7:28pm
    The executives "In Charge" are making good money though.
    Bet they're sinking plenty of into their super!!!
    Anonymous
    21st Feb 2015
    7:49pm
    You pay the going price Abby and you get the Heart Foundation tick it would appear.
    Young Simmo
    21st Feb 2015
    8:03pm
    Yes Radish (F), the big question is, does the tick mean it is good for you? or the Heart Foundations kitty just got a bit fatter?
    Anonymous
    22nd Feb 2015
    2:57pm
    I read where McDonalds have lost the tick on their so called healthy options menu. They were paying $300,000 a year for the tick. Big bickies for the Heart Foundation to lose.
    Anonymous
    24th Feb 2015
    10:35am
    Young Simmo I take no notice of the "tick"..
    Read the labels yourself.
    This may be of help to some:

    https://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/sites/default/files/files/eatingwell/efh_food_label_example_130621.pdf
    Abby
    24th Feb 2015
    1:46pm
    It is a good idea Radish - unfortunately one needs a magnifying glass to read the microscopic labels that some of them are.

    It is a shame that some of the labels no longer supply info in calories and use kilojoules insted when most diet plans from the rest of the world are in calories.

    Furthermore I find the new labeling system which is a little larger totally useless...it would be far more useful to enlarge Nutrition Information table.
    Anonymous
    25th Feb 2015
    7:46am
    Abby, yes you certainly do need to hang a magnifying glass around your neck when you go shopping that is for sure :). A friend of mine is borderline diabetic and I had a discussion re labels etc and how time consuming it would be for her. Told me she only had to do it once or twice as she now knows which products she can buy that have the least, sugar, fat, salt etc in them. Made her own list and has bought so often she goes exactly what to buy now. She is full bottle on it and I admire her for being proactive. She said she does not want to get diabetes and is doing her best to avoid it and for the last 5 years she has done just that. She weighs 55 kilos and looks great as well.
    Abby
    25th Feb 2015
    11:32am
    Unfortunatelly if she has hereditary type 2 Diabetes she will eventually get it.

    My bro battled it for over 15 years and on a recent call has advised me he is a Diabetic

    Of course if she has the acquired type 2 Diabetis she should be able to maintain it with diet and exercise.

    You do get to the stage where you buy same brands and food because of poor labelling on food.
    Precious 1
    22nd Feb 2015
    8:28pm
    ALcoholic is the worst perpetrator of diabetes..also can be hereditary...plus not drinking enough water........
    Oldie84
    24th Feb 2015
    4:33pm
    Oh Precious, maybe that is what caused it. I love a glass of wine and can't stand water unless it has bubbles in it. In my young years I believed too much water put weight on you. But the we also took salt tablets. :-)
    Kopernicus
    23rd Feb 2015
    7:16pm
    I've spent many more than 35 years working in Health with people of all ages and diabetes was the most common issue I had to deal with, via - one on one appts, group education, inpatients, pediatric clinics etc. Unfortunately, I need to observe have to say much of what's been written here is not accurate, misleading or misunderstood eg overstating

    Type 1diabetes is result of autoimmune disease, body knocks out insulin producing cells, blood sugars hit the ceiling and diabetes roars into life with frank symptoms. Type 2 is creeping, it's really about insulin resistance (body start to require more and more insulin to do the same job) until it can't do it and blood sugars rise. There may be no overt symptoms for years, yet quiet damage may be occurring.

    Lifestyle approaches like weight loss in the obese and physical activity increases improve the function of insulin and help to control diabetes. There is also the immediate effect of eating. ALL carbs, are broken down to sugars and blood levels will rise, but only for the next 2-3 hours. How high? Depends on the TOTAL amount of carbs, the GI of the carbs and your insulin fuction. There is far too much hype about sugar, it's a carb like many others, eg if you add a tsp(5g) of honey to your toast, the toast (15g carb) will have 3 times the effect on your BGL (depending on the GI of your bread).

    What to do - see a dietian and a diabetes educator for a start. An individual program should be developed for you (I always attempted to negotiate the diet with the client to enhance adherence). There are many possible ways to modify your diet to make it appropriate.

    As to label reading, get some help if you need it, but it's not for everyone. The Nutrition Information Panel (NIP) has all the required info, but you need to translate it into the actual amount you will consume - that can be tricky.
    Kopernicus
    23rd Feb 2015
    7:47pm
    Just a few words about trans fats. Yes, they do occur in nature but we've been able to produce ones that don't. Yes, there is agreement that they are bad for us. Why use them, they extend shelf life and retain integrity when reheated eg chips in takeaways.

    On the plus side, the production of them in margarines (hydrogenation) has been replaced by a benign process (esterification) resulting in negligible trans fat content. On the down side the rules on labelling are so leaky that declaring them is religiously avoided. The rule is that all the fats (sat, mono, poly, trans) need to be declared ONLY if there is some claim about fat eg "Canola". Hence you'll find this info on all marges and oils and trans fats will be low. BUT, if a fat is not named, then this requirement can be circumvented by employing the term "vegetable oil'. Moreover foods like doughnuts, cakes, takeaways may contain little or nil info, yet be replete in trans fats.

    I recall Nutella having 4% hydrogenated peanut oil (trans fat) on the ingredient listing years ago. This diappeared as soon as trans fats were getting called out and replaced with veg oil and no hydrogenation needed to be revealed. Pathetic!

    As to Heart Foundation (NHF), they focus strictly on cardiovascular relevant food stuffs. Sugar don't fit into this job description.

    Moreover, NHF has a strategy of shifting industry mean on things like sodium or sat fat content ie you need to meet criteria which below this average. To their credit, they have achieved movement in that direction. BUT Joe Blow thinks anything with a tick is fine (it is better than average) but it may be still unsuitable for him. I had some interesting correspondence with NHF about cheeses with 25% fat. Sure, it was less than 33% average but not by that much and did the consumer understand this? I didn't think so.
    Abby
    24th Feb 2015
    2:05pm
    RE; "Heart Foundation (NHF), they focus strictly on cardiovascular relevant food stuffs. Sugar don't fit into this job description".

    Latest research shows that sugar is a major cause of Heart Disease through contributing inflammation of the arterial walls by insulin spikes which damage the endothelial lining of blood vessels.
    Young Simmo
    24th Feb 2015
    2:31pm
    Well at the risk of starting a fight, I believe life is a LOTTERY, and it doesn't matter what you eat.
    WHY? My father died on his 43rd birthday in 1953 of a heart attack, when there was none of this modern information about.
    I am 75 and travelling along nicely, and I eat and drink everything I want including salt and sugar. I could have spoilt the last 30 or 40 years by avoiding all these BOOGY foods but have chosen to eat what I like.
    YES; "Life is a Lottery".
    It's up to you whether you enjoy or suffer.
    Oldie84
    24th Feb 2015
    4:27pm
    Young Simmo you are right. Sometimes one can despair over the conflicting research results, one minute eggs are bad for you and the next the opposite. Butter? oh how awful, we all die of heart failure, next thing you know its natural and you must have it. I am with you; everything in moderation, no gutsing. Live life and enjoy. I've managed to get to 81 and live a full life.
    :-) :-)
    Oldie84
    24th Feb 2015
    4:27pm
    Young Simmo you are right. Sometimes one can despair over the conflicting research results, one minute eggs are bad for you and the next the opposite. Butter? oh how awful, we all die of heart failure, next thing you know its natural and you must have it. I am with you; everything in moderation, no gutsing. Live life and enjoy. I've managed to get to 81 and live a full life.
    :-) :-)
    Abby
    24th Feb 2015
    5:02pm
    I have a problem with foods that all seem to have too much sugar .... I do not like the taste of over sweet drinks and food.

    For an example look at cereals ..surely if somebody wants to add sugar they can but you definitely cannot take it out. Cereals are recommended as good breakfast food for children ..they are full of sugar Why ? It only rots their teeth and makes them obese yet they have the heart tick on them ?
    Anonymous
    25th Feb 2015
    7:51am
    Abby, like you I find lots of foods oversweet including the CSIRO cereals. Hubby eats but I dont. I much prefer oats and I put in my own sweetener i.e. prunes or maple syrup in limited quantitites. Sometimes I dont even bother.

    When I make biscuits and on the rare occasion cakes, I always cut back the sugar. If a recipe calls for 1 cup I cut back to just slightly under half a cup. Made a banana cake the other day which had 3 bananas in it and if I had put in the full cup of sugar as well it would have been far too sweet for us. The half was fine.
    Abby
    25th Feb 2015
    12:56pm
    It makes you wonder if the companies put all that sugar in purposely to make children acquire the taste and craving for sugar.

    In US the 2015 Dietary Guideline Advisory Committee just released new recommendations to limit added sugars to 10 percent of daily calories.... and we keep giving healthy heart ticks to sugared foods

    Up until a few hundred years ago refined concentrated sugars were unheard of, now it is in most packaged foods. Some research says that refined sugars are as addictive as drugs
    Not Senile Yet!
    25th Feb 2015
    3:38pm
    Yep...Yep...Yep!!!
    It is ok to Legislate 160% Tax on Tobacco and Tobacco Products including their packaging and stuff the money into the Bottomless Pit called General Revenue....been ok since 1920...that's when it hit 100%....now it's ok to keep slugging the Addicts.....in the name of saving them from themselves!!!
    Time to apply the same principle to the Fast Food INDUSTRY that refuses to reduce the sugar and additives from their product.
    Whack them 160% tax!!!!!
    But no more into General Revenue......the tax should go straight to Medicare.....to assist those that need it!!!
    As for the Smokers Discrimination tactics of the Government......same principle.....the tax should go directly into Medicare.....not General Black Hole....where it disappears!!!!
    As for those with Hereditary Issues...... a doctors acknowledgement to Medicare should allow for a more discriminate handling of cost of Medication......given the increased revenue to Medicare!!!
    With regard to the Ned Kellies in Parliament.....they all belong to a Party.....easily recognised by their obvious Puppet Strings!!!!
    Simply refuse to give them your VOTE next election!!!!
    They can't or won't change anything....their Party won't allow them!
    So STOP Voting for them!!!
    Young Simmo
    25th Feb 2015
    3:56pm
    It has been obvious to me for years that the Gov't are a pack of bear faced liars of the worst kind. What with all the tripe telling smokers to stop and the Gov't only increase the cigarette tax by a few precent. That is to ensure hat people keep buying and smoking Cigarettes. If they put the tax up buy 3 or 400% people would stop buying and the liars would miss out on all that tax. I just hope that Joe Hockey's pet rooster gets lung cancer.
    Patriot
    25th Feb 2015
    5:59pm
    I have more compassion for innocent animals. Why not arrogant Joe himself?
    He's the smoker!
    loraines
    2nd Aug 2017
    11:11am
    Why repost an article and comments from 2015? Statistics are out of date, thinking about diabetes moved on. It seems irrelevant in many aspects.
    TMac
    8th Mar 2019
    10:34am
    its not rockets science..... keep your weight down to within normal range for your age, eat healthy meals and do some decent exercise for 30-60 min/day