Bishop to repay misused funds

Speaker Bronwyn Bishop will repay the taxpayer money spent on a helicopter ride.

Bishop to repay misused funds

The Speaker of the House of Representatives Bronwyn Bishop has said she will pay back the $5000 in taxpayer money, with a 25 per cent loading, that she spent on a chartered helicopter ride from Melbourne to Geelong last year.

Ms Bishop has been in the firing line this week after her expense account showed she had spent $130,889.80 on official travel in the second half of last year. This amount includes over $88,000 she spent on a 15-day visit to Europe while she was running for the presidency of the Inter-Parliamentary Union based in Geneva, as well as an 11-day trip through Asia, which cost $42,805.51.

There have been calls for the Speaker to resign in the wake of what has been deemed a gross misuse of taxpayer funds. As a result of the uproar, Ms Bishop vowed to pay back the money spent on a 90km helicopter ride from Melbourne to Clifton Springs, near Geelong, for a Liberal Party fundraiser last year.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten was scathing in his remarks about the Speaker’s abuse of privilege, saying, “This is an out-of-touch, arrogant Government who are cutting the incomes of vulnerable Australians, yet at the same time they’re wafting around above our heads in taxpayer-funded helicopters when you could have just driven down the road like the rest of us.

“It is such a colossally arrogant thing to do.”

He has also called on the Prime Minister to repudiate her actions for her “shameful” use of taxpayer money.

Even Treasurer Joe Hockey admitted that Ms Bishop’s use of taxpayer funded allowances “did not pass the sniff test”, and has called on her to state her case in the wake of his declaration last year that “the age of entitlement is over, and the age of personal responsibility has begun” – which Ms Bishop seems to have taken as lip service.

Considering Ms Bishop’s colossal expense account, paying back the $5000 for her chartered flight may not be enough to save her.

What do you think? Is Ms Bishop within her rights? Or do you feel her expenses are a gross misuse of taxpayer money? Has she abused her privilege and brought the position of Speaker of the House of Representatives into disrepute? Should she also pay back some of the money she has spent on overseas travel? Should she resign?

Read more at The Sydney Morning Herald.





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    17th Jul 2015
    9:58am
    She should pay back the money she wasted on her overseas travels too. Shame on this greedy, self indulgent woman.
    Stoker
    17th Jul 2015
    12:31pm
    And Sarah Hanson-Young, out there cruising in the Mediteranian.
    Brissiegirl
    17th Jul 2015
    1:42pm
    She's the one who tell all of us to get on our bikes and stop polluting while she steps out of taxpayer funded limousines and flies around polluting the skies.
    Brissiegirl
    17th Jul 2015
    1:43pm
    (I'm referring to Hanson Young)
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    1:49pm
    I find it inconsolable that Peter Slipper was hounded out of office and through the courts, that Julia Gillard was hounded out of office with the assistance of the Murdoch propaganda rags and that we now have the next Royal Commission into LABOR whilst Bronwyn Bishop has misappropriated a significant amount of money and apparently has no case to answer. And lets not forget that the Tony Abbott travels rorts were also shrugged off.
    I don't mind the media and the public getting stuck into the crooks but what really offends me as an Australian is the corruption which allows one side of politics to avoid serious action whilst the other side is fair game at any time. We need a Royal Commission into how it is that the Liberal side of politics is continually protected from litigation and the sacking of the dishonest politician concerned.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    2:44pm
    mick as usual you don't have a full understanding of the situation. Were you aware what he said about oysters?!
    And for your information Julia Gillard was sacked by the same person who put her in the job. Yes that's right the same person who dropped the F word at the nice little pie lady, who incidentally has been a Labor voter since she migrated from China 25 years ago.
    Sceptic
    17th Jul 2015
    2:51pm
    The Royal Commission is actually inquiring into the corruption of the unions mick, not Labor. But then as most of the Labor politicians are ex union officials, perhaps your description is correct after all. Bronwyn Bishop's action in using this mode of transport is completely unforgivable, and despite the fact that it may well be within the guidelines, displays a pathetic lack of judgement. Especially as Speaker she should be above reproach. However your hate of anything that isn't of the left side of politics should not blind you to the many instances of similar behaviour from the ALP and Greens. Including the most recent one of Mr Shorten's revealed in the Royal commission. BTW, do you really mean to say inconsolable?
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    3:41pm
    Mick, don't forget the free education worth $66,000 for Abbott's daughter. It makes me sick as well. If we had a decent opposition, we might one day, see these rorters brought before a Royal Commission but with the wishy washy Bill, if he wins the next election, he'll let them all off scot free.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:48pm
    Jen,
    You cannot throw stones when you're guilty of the similar violations yourself.
    That's how you'll get 'Dobbed In" yourself.

    You never see a crow fly with a "Flock of Swallows" & visa versa.
    "Birds of a feather Flock Together"!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    6:01pm
    Fully understand. Frank of course always equates the two. Great picture Frank. Get out the violin. And by the way do you recall what Abbott said to the (Labor) Education Minister after he had recorded an interview with her as the other side. He thought the cameras were off and got caught out. A nice piece of work. But we already know that.

    To be perfectly honest Sceptic my "hate" if you want to use the word is of the sort of corruption we are seeing from THIS government. Whilst I support neither side I have been known to tolerate governments like the Howard government. The LNP is always a mouthpiece for the rich and not trustworthy but this government has broken new ground on betrayal, lying and deceit that should have seen it resign in shame after 6 months.
    Call me a spotted dog if you like but please do not call me a "leftie". My views are moral and perhaps the comparison you make with the left mirror these.....but I have not voted Labor since I was wet behind the ears. As YOU both know I keep plugging away for Independents because I want to see proper government restored rather this corruption which lurches one way and then the other.
    Kato
    20th Jul 2015
    9:50am
    There is one word which is the true word to use THIEF. and therefore should be tried as such.
    KSS
    20th Jul 2015
    2:18pm
    Jen the scholarship offered to Ms Abbott was from a private college, not the public education system or tax payer. And in case you are not aware, private colleges offering Certificate, Diploma and even degree courses are NOT funded by the Government. TAFE is the only publically funded training college along with 40 Australian universities, (There are also two international universities, and one private specialty university that don't count). It is unfair to include this in your rorting diatribe when Ms Abbot is not a public figure drawing a salary from taxpayer funds. And before you start, she is not responsible or accountable for her Father's position or actions. So why drag her into anything?
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    10:03am
    Time to go madame speaker. Disgraceful behaviour
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    1:51pm
    Tony Abbott had a travel rort charge levelled at him before the last election. Whilst guilty he also did not have to account. Why?
    Sceptic
    17th Jul 2015
    3:16pm
    Interesting responses today. The majority of the posters consider that the taxpayers have been rorted out of $5,000. But most of those same posters have applauded suggestions that people spend like mad or buy a more expensive house if you have assets above the pension threshold level at the time of the introduction of the pension rules changes in 2017, just so they will qualify for a part pension. And who will be paying for that pension, the taxpayers.

    And do not start with the old chestnut "I have paid taxes all my life have paid for my pension." There is no reserve fund for pension payments, and taxes also pay for other things during your lifetime.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:48pm
    Sceptic - good points - I am a self funded retiree so miss out - that this OK but I have colleagues in same boat who work to adjust their financial affairs to get a part pension - I know one who gets a $1.10 per week - he really doesn't care about the age pension its more the benefits such as reduced phone, electricity, gas.water etc that he worked out is a little more than $3k per year (after tax) and also the Health Card. My solution give all those of aged pension the discounts on govn services and Health Card and make it even more difficult for those who are self sufficient to get aged pension.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:41pm
    I am sort of with you on this one bob. If add ons were not means tested as they are retirees might be a bit easier on the old age pension and not try to get around the rules.
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    5:50pm
    Your are spot on Sceptic, spot on!!
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    5:52pm
    I recently wrote to Morrison suggesting that the government look at giving everyone over 70 years of age the concession card.

    This may stop many "rearranging" their finances to get a part pension.

    I know of many people who do this.
    Anonymous
    20th Jul 2015
    1:41pm
    As a speaker, Bishop is biased and undemocratic. Australia can do very well without her.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    3:59pm
    The Speaker of the House is SUPPOSED to be unbiased but no appointment ever made by the current government fits this requirement. You only have to look at the number of pollies thrown out of the Chamber by Bishop to work out how biased she is: Labor 400, LNP 8. Tells a story. But then unlike the Rudd government Abbott, on taking power, gave ALL of the ambassadorships to his cronies. Rudd did a 50/50 split.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    10:04am
    It does rather put Mr Slipper's misdemeanour of about $800 on mis-used taxis in the shade doesn't it?
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    12:33pm
    Yes, Peter Slipper wasn't given the option of simply repaying it. He was dragged through court.

    Bronwyn Bishop spent $90,000 on a trip to Europe where, I believe, she applied for another job. How she believes that's an expense taxpayers should pay, is beyond me. All up, she's spent over $300,000 in 12 months on "expenses."
    ghoti
    17th Jul 2015
    1:22pm
    Slipper was eventually found not guilty. By then his career, reputation, marriage etc had been destroyed. Was there an apology from Abbott? I didn't hear of one. Was Brough sanctioned at all? What is Ashby doing now? No doubt he was rewarded handsomely for his role.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    1:28pm
    Small fry was replaced with a shark.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    1:52pm
    All of the above are correct. What we are witnessing is systemic corruption at the highest levels which protect the Liberal side of politics. We need a Royal Commission run by a totally independent panel of judges.
    Sceptic
    17th Jul 2015
    2:53pm
    If you make a charge of corruption against anyone mick, you better be prepared to defend it with provable evidence.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:47pm
    I see your point Sceptic but where there's smoke there's nearly always fire. I would love an explanation as to why only one side of politics REPEATEDLY has a case to answer whilst the other shrugs its shoulders and mostly walks away. This is what is playing out at the moment. Bronwyn Bishop is by no means a benign little old lady and has been caught with a lot more than a couple of fingers in the till.
    As I said we need a Royal Commission into both sides of politics with an emphasis on how donated money and legislation are connected. They are. Cause and effect?
    Anonymous
    19th Jul 2015
    11:02am
    The difference with Slipper is that he was trying to hide what he did by falsifying cab vouchers...he was found guilty by the Magistrate.
    Jen
    19th Jul 2015
    11:22am
    No difference, both were rorts, both were caught.
    Adrianus
    19th Jul 2015
    12:25pm
    Some of those rides were to gay bars, so there's no way they could have been work related, could they?
    Anyway when the dust settles it is wrong to waste taxpayers money like this.
    I was livid about Labor's waste and I am just as mad about Bishop's needless extravagance. If she had a valid reason she has had ample time to explain herself, unless she can say no more while the investigation is running it's course?
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:03pm
    Attending a Liberal Party organised fundraiser IS NOT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS. This is a private function for election funding. NOthing to do with government business.
    If I have not made the point please note what has happened since: THE GOVERNMENT HAS REMOVED ITS LINK ABOUT PETER SLIPPER FROM ITS WEBSITE. I wonder why!
    So by all means Frank print the next piece of LNP advertising but the facts are the facts. Clearly queen Bishop needs to go rather than use the royal wave and fob off when questioned about her dishonesty.
    Brissiegirl
    17th Jul 2015
    10:21am
    Bishop should no longer be Speaker. Slipper's conduct was even worse because of his vulgar commentaries about women's anatomies. He only stayed in the job because Gillard needed him. Abbott does not "need" this silly person and should exercise far better judgment than Gillard did. Repay the money and go Mrs Bishop. End of story.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    10:40am
    While I would never defend Mr Slipper, what Gillard did was a political masterstroke. By making him Speaker she effectively increased her very slim majority in the House. Thats called politics and it was a clever move before all the dirt on him had come out. After all, he was a Lib so she could hardly have been expected to know the internal goss about his behaviour before the Libs turned on him and exposed what only they had known but kept quiet for years.
    Brissiegirl
    17th Jul 2015
    11:04am
    Gillard hung onto Slipper long after she knew about his disgusting misogynist conduct. Am I being too hard on Bishop? Is repaying the money sufficient acknowledgement of poor judgment?
    nena
    17th Jul 2015
    11:06am
    I could not agree more...and in a democratic system as ours the speaker should be somebody who is unbiased...she remind me of a primary school principal...and that was in the 1940s...Of course, T. A. needs her support for his inadequacy is pathetic...
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    11:11am
    Happy cyclist
    How much MORE does either party know about ANY of their Members in Parliament of the Senate.
    Should it be considered "A Crime" if they do not volunteer this information? After all, if they KNOW, they MUST be considered an ACCESSORY to these crimes !!!
    If I steal from my neighbour and - when caught - volunteer to refund the item/money stolen will a Criminal Charge be implemented or will it be wavered??? I am certain I would be charged by some "Event Happy Cops". And so I should!!!!!
    IF SO, why are we not instigating criminal charges for our (well paid) misbehaving Parlementarians.
    WHY ARE THEY ABOVE & BEYOND THE LAW ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Just being removed from their position as speaker (or what ever) is JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! CRIMINAL CHARGES MUST BE IMPLEMENTED!!!!!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    1:55pm
    Respectfully to a couple of the posts above.......my understanding is that Slipper was a Liberal Party member and it appeared that Gillard was happy to let him be Speaker in the interests of fairness, just like Rudd divided ambassadorships equally between the parties. How different the current regime is.
    ghoti
    17th Jul 2015
    2:15pm
    Weren't Slipper's vulgar commentaries spoken in private? Who amongst us would be happy to have everything we say in private published for the world to see? What about the private sayings of the greatest misogamist of all, one T. Abbott? Slipper was caught by a nasty revengeful scam orchestrated by the LNP - probably by T. Abbott himself (remember his role in sending Pauline Hanson to jail?).
    If Ms Bishop didn't realise at the time that claiming for a helicopter ride to a Liberal Party fundraiser was contrary to the guidelines then she's guilty of incredibly poor judgement and should go. If she did but made the claim anyway then she should go. If she can't see even now that it was outside the guidelines then she should go. Those other LNP pollies who knew she took that helicopter ride but did nothing about it are guilty of collusion - they should go too. T. Abbott, in particular, should be above reproach, but he ain't (we pay, for example, for him to go ride his bike; and he's quite happy for one of his daughters to be given a $60,000 scholarship for which she didn't apply and which some allege she didn't deserve).
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:52pm
    Well written ghoti. You are pointing out the bleeding obvious: that there are different rules for this government from those Labor is required to obey. Also, there are few consequences for the LNP side whilst Labor MPs are publicly pursued by the vested media interests and are dragged mercilessly through the courts.
    I have no issue with sending crooks through the court circus as long as this is CONSISTENT. That is the issue.
    ghoti
    18th Jul 2015
    5:18pm
    My apologies: Mr Abbott is the greatest misogynist of all, not misogamist. A misogamist is someone who hates marriage (so I've learnt). Mr Abbott, who hates marriage equality, approves of marriage between a man and a woman, even though as a misogynist he basically hates women.
    islandguy
    17th Jul 2015
    10:28am
    I'm 60. I have $15,000 in super. In one arrogant act she's wasted more than I'm expected to live on for the next 20 years.
    rattler
    17th Jul 2015
    1:53pm
    Me also she is a disgrace it just tells me how much (or not) these politicians care about the little people. The just have no concept of how we live on a budget.
    bobby
    17th Jul 2015
    10:33am
    A saying comes to mind, "people who live in glass houses.............." Members of both sides of the House have their fingers in the public purse in different ways. What Bishop did was ill-considered and she should be reprimanded severely and should repay monies wrongly appropriated but she should not be called on to resign unless she does it again. Maybe both leaders should reconsider the way they use public funds for private purposes.
    LeonYLC
    17th Jul 2015
    12:42pm
    Absolutely
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    1:35pm
    If an ordinary worker did what she did they would have been criminally charged with fraud. Australia doesn't need parasites.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    1:58pm
    What needs to happen is laws which require political criminals to resign and to not be protected by their self regulated industry. And of course travel entitlements need to be tightened.
    In all this I have a suspicion that the Liberal Party slush fund may pay Bishop back anyway. But since there is no federal ICAC in existence how can a criminal ever be found out if this occurs.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    2:27pm
    Tony Burke just announced that they will refer Bronwyn Bishop to The Australian Federal Police to investigate the form that she signed to see if she committed an offence.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:44pm
    jackie,
    100% support
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:48pm
    Another waste of taxpayers money. No wonder we pay such high taxes.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:53pm
    What you mean Bonny is let your crooked friend get away with it. Would you feel the same if a Labor MY did this?
    Anonymous
    19th Jul 2015
    11:06am
    She may have been playing within the rules but as Nick Xenephon said the rules need tightening up so there is no ambiquity in future.

    As both side of parliament stretch the rules I wonder if this will "actually" come about. They all like to have their snouts in the trough at some time or other.

    She will not resign and eventually there will be something else leading the headlines.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:04pm
    I thought Xenophon said the rules 'needed' tightening up.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    10:36am
    I think 80% plus politicians are good people and want to do a good job. We should jump all over the 20% vigorously where community standards are not met.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    10:42am
    Spot on Rob.
    Gee Whiz
    17th Jul 2015
    12:45pm
    Very naive to believe 80% of pollies are good people. The only one I would trust out of the whole federal government is Nick Xenophon.
    Gee Whiz
    17th Jul 2015
    12:45pm
    Very naive to believe 80% of pollies are good people. The only one I would trust out of the whole federal government is Nick Xenophon.
    Gee Whiz
    17th Jul 2015
    12:45pm
    Very naive to believe 80% of pollies are good people. The only one I would trust out of the whole federal government is Nick Xenophon.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    12:55pm
    I agree, wish he would run for PM.
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    1:29pm
    Andrew Wilkie's another.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    1:33pm
    Jobs with all those perks and benefits only attract greed.

    Our politicians can receive pensions at a younger age and still work in high paying positions, they are not means tested and their pensions are paltry like the rest of Australians. There has to be reform for political salaries and pensions.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    1:57pm
    If people believe all politicians are so bad, why don't they do something and run themselves? Its so easy to be an armchair critic, yet we, everyone, have voted them into office. Take Jacki Lambie as an example, she was really at rock bottom, even tried suicide, but then got herself together and ran for Parliament because she wanted to help veterans. While I rarely agree with anything she says, I highly commend her for getting off her behind and doing something instead of all this armchair whinging. Its just so easy to complain about everything and do absolutely nothing yourself to change things.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:01pm
    Rob: that gave me a giggle. Are you talking about the Liberal Party side of the equation here, the ones put into office by political fundraising dinners with the big end of town who then expect a return on their investments once office is attained? Or are you talking about the Labor side of politics which still has a significant union representation together with the history which it cannot shake.
    Good politicians? No self interest in the lifetime superannuation? Care about the country but routinely sell out all of us? I respectfully have to disagree with you.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    3:53pm
    I'm beginning to think Bishop was on official business. The more Labor get excited about this the more I think there is no case against Bishop because I know Labor's track record on getting things right.
    mick we all know that the unions pick up the money from the big end of town and pass it to Labor and the Greens.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:56pm
    Frank: you are full of it AGAIN. You know that Bishop was on a private fundraiser for the Liberal Party but you choose to lie about this anyway. And then you come back to your normal impotent attack on Labor....when we are talking about an LNP MP who has tried to defraud taxpayers.
    I say again, you have no credibility Frank.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    6:49am
    mick, if the speaker were to attend a similar function held by the unions and their party. How would the speaker arrive and who would cover the cost? And don't say by plane and without a silk for the drop.
    I guess that's a poor example given they have other more preferred methods of raising their cash flow requirements.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:06pm
    So the response to the FACTS are another LNP advertisement Frank? And you wonder why you have no credibility on this website.
    Kato
    17th Jul 2015
    10:47am
    Tony should expel her from the house. Far to many snouts in the trough.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:02pm
    Unfortunately comrades Kato and branded with the same mark.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:58pm
    English: fail.
    I meant to say that they were all branded with the same mark. Got to leave the Happy Hour to later.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:55am
    I don't have a problem with what Bronwyn Bishop did. She did the honourable thing in that since there was a slim doubt about it she just paid it back plus 25%.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    11:14am
    Oh, Bonny, please! There is no 'slim doubt' whatsoever and putting BB in the same sentence (or nearly) as 'honourable' is really cause for ribald laughter.
    Rosscoe
    17th Jul 2015
    12:26pm
    Honourable thing, Bonny????? Bishop is only paying it back because she was caught out!!! Get rid of these pigs with their snouts in the trough!
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    12:37pm
    "Honourable?" Resigning would have been honourable.
    LeonYLC
    17th Jul 2015
    12:43pm
    But would she have paid it back if the issue wasn't raised publicly? How many others are out there doing similar things with taxpayer money?
    Grumpy
    17th Jul 2015
    1:20pm
    Bonny, the money was spent on an extravagant way of attending a State Liberal party fund raiser by the "non- partisan" Speaker of the Federal House of Reps.
    She knew full well that no reasonable person could classify this as in pursuit of her Parliamentary duties. She was therefore clearly attempting fraud against the Commonwealth. Fraud is a criminal offence for which she should be prosecuted, as Peter Slipper was. For TA the downside is, of course, if found guilty she would be barred from ever becoming a MP. This is why Libs will never do the right thing in such cases, even where as clear cut as this one.
    Notwithstanding rubberiness of the rules on travel expenses anyone other than Pollies would be expected to apply the reasonableness test before claiming. Does she really believe this claim was reasonable? If so her judgment must come into question.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:49pm
    Especially as she is the one who makes judgements on others in the parliamentary house.
    thommo
    17th Jul 2015
    1:51pm
    Your're at it again Bonny. You nasty cynic. You obviously have no idea of fairness (or honesty) among a bunch of thieves.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:07pm
    Bonny: that is sounding very much like a 'Frank' response. IT WAS A LIBERAL PARTY FUNDRAISER. NOthing to do with government business. Only funny business.p
    Bishop pulled a fast one and thought she had got away with so that makes her no better than a common criminal. She is not a noble savage and should resign or be sacked.
    bebby
    17th Jul 2015
    5:56pm
    Bonny: I am amazed you think that attending a Liberal Party Fundraiser had anything to do with using taxpayers money for her transport. She earns 341k a year, surely she (or the Liberal Party or maybe Mr Murdoch) could have picked up the tab.
    mangomick
    17th Jul 2015
    8:54pm
    Thanks Bonny. You have put credence into the saying, "there is always one in the crowd"
    No right minded person whatever their Political view could condone such an action It shows utter contempt for the Australian public and gives licence for the Australian peoples contempt for Politicians like her.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    8:59pm
    Tells a story mago. The real question is if bonny is genuine or not.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:09am
    Yes Bonny, it was very honourable of Bishop to repay the amount with the penalty imposed by Abbott. The other side have a different way of handling these matters of course.
    Take the Slipper case? OK it was only $900 but still...
    How about the Thompson case?
    Was it on his recommendation that hookers be covered by medicare? another Labor brain snap.
    What about the Shorten matter?
    It took 8 years for him to come reluctantly clean. And only because of the RC.
    Then there's the Williamson case where the law had to step in and lock him up for 7 years.
    Then there was Gillard's boyfriend, supposedly going to lead the ALP one day, but setting up a spurious union slush fund of his own. Perhaps to prove to his peers he is the man for the job. "We are you , you are us" sort of thing.
    What we come to expect from the born to rule arrogant rank and file union bosses. And they rail against poor little Bronny who was just trying to do her job?
    What a bunch of losers! Don't let these people near the keys to treasury again!!!
    Anonymous
    19th Jul 2015
    11:08am
    Rosscoe, if we goetrid of the pigs with their noses in the trough who would be left in Parliament??
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:07pm
    Maybe only Nick Xenophon. Nice to have an Independent who goes in to bat for ordinary Australians. There should be more of them.
    nena
    17th Jul 2015
    11:01am
    What a parasite she is...she has no idea about earning a living...How come she so promptly offer pay the abusive expenses... that is it...she has plenty and believe she deserve even more...go and do some decent work and see and understand others workers...I'm seek in the stomach...
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:04am
    We don't know the rules or the circumstances so we can't judge here. Obviously the rules need to be clearer as one other Senator pointed out so this thing doesn't happen.
    Nan Norma
    17th Jul 2015
    11:13am
    Bonny I don't care we don't know the rules, this is blantent greed and selfish abuse of her position in any body's language. I'm sure the atitude is "If we don't get cought, good, if we do we'll just pay it back and better luck next time. Why is it these people don't land up in court more often for spealing from the boss, us the taxpayers.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:28am
    I disagree the rules are the most important thing here. If she played by the rules then there is no problem full stop. That's why we have rules and don't have to rely upon someone's mere opinion of what they think is right and wrong.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    11:35am
    Actually, we do know the rules and she didn't.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:37am
    Funny as I have no idea what the rules are myself and no way I'm going to trust the media on this one.
    geomac
    17th Jul 2015
    11:39am
    The rules are clear. You book the taxpayer for govt business. Doing your job as an MP not a party fundraiser which is clearly outside the guidelines. Even then it was a waste of money as Bishop had a govt car and driver at her disposal to make a 1 hour trip.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:51am
    OK if it wasn't allowed she has paid it back plus the penalty so she has played by the rues and that should be the end of it.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    11:54am
    Hockey said she didn't abide by the rules, Bonny. That wasn't the media. That was the Federal Treasurer. But in the end, I don't think it's the rules that are the issue. Political leaders should be ETHICAL and MORAL and CONSIDERATE OF THE TAXPAYER. Not that any of them are. But they SHOULD BE.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    12:59pm
    Bonny,

    They are saying she played by the rules. Have they shown the rules to clarify this. No.

    I understand that a document was signed saying the expense was for government business and to do with here job as the speaker.

    Since when was going to a liberal fundraising event government business.

    By the way signing this document for a fraudulent claim apparently is a criminal offense.

    Get the AFP onto it.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:10pm
    The rules are clear Bonny: government business acceptable, private business not acceptable. The business was a PRIVATE fundraiser. Bishop chose to not take an 80 minute car trip and to add insult to injury billed taxpayers for her dishonest behaviour. As though she did not know what she was doing. And this is what I have against most of the LNP.....they act dishonestly and corruption seems to be only a short distance away. No conscience. No morals.

    17th Jul 2015
    11:08am
    I am glad we don"t have to pay for her hairdresser
    Brissiegirl
    17th Jul 2015
    11:11am
    Funny.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:28am
    She does her own hair every day.
    nena
    17th Jul 2015
    11:30am
    Well, the hairdresser bill should be very high...and what about if we also had to pay for her... (yes, you got it) OK it is not her fault...Mother Nature has its ways....
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    11:39am
    We are still paying for Julia Gillard's hairdresser :(
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    12:00pm
    Gillards hairdresser is on the dole what was his name Tim ??????? who cares another bludger.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:11pm
    How do you know Bonny? Do you work for her?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:13pm
    Inside knowledge, Bonny? (damn we need emoticons here)....
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    2:21pm
    How do you know she dies her hair herself every day Bonny?, do you know her personally ?, do you live with her? if it was a media report I thought you said you didn't trust them.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:45pm
    She told us that when she had lunch with Annabelle. Don't tell me you missed that show.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:51pm
    Frank: did they let you out of the bunker at Liberal Party HQ? I noticed you went missing the other day when the blatant Murdoch orchestrated media rag, the Telegraph, ran its normal vile anti Labor propaganda piece. And of course the Party came back with all the old lies about a Carbon Tax and the like.
    Surely your employer has more to offer Australia than more lies and malicious conduct?
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    5:59pm
    Labor hasn't learned any lessons. The carbon tax is secretly ready to return. Bill will say otherwise to get your vote. A cheetah never changes its spots!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:08pm
    Frank: that is the next lie that this government is running with. Now I understand why you disappeared for almost a week. Planning this expose with your boss eh?
    Maybe tell this community WHY the Carbon Tax scare campaign always was A LIE...the hallmark of this government:

    1. Carbon Tax scare campaign designed by/for the coal industry to cement its energy monopoly.
    2. Carbon Tax well accepted by most big business (not coal industry).
    3. LNG pushed lie that "you have high electricity prices because of the Carbon Tax" exposed as a scam. If not then WHY did electricity prices not drop by 60% when the tax was repealed?
    4. Taxpayers now putting in $8 BILLION A YEAR (look it up) through lost taxes to the fossil fuel industry.
    5. Last of all a whole swag of coal mines have closed down in Queensland. Can't blame the Carbon Tax for that one Frank!!

    As I keep saying Frank YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY because your posts are deceitful and meant to mislead those who do not have the necessary knowledge.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:12am
    When Bill Shorten says....

    "there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"

    you know exactly what he means.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:11pm
    Your attempt at a quote shows that the corruption from this government flows in your veins Frank. That is a quote from Julia Gillard.
    If you want a discussion about the 'big, bad Carbon Tax' then this is one you will lose. It was not the reason for high electricity prices (a LNP election lie). It did not cause job losses (as evidenced by the closing of mines long AFTER the policy was repealed) and it was working (which horrified the coal industry). WE ALL KNOW WHY THE CARBON TAX WENT.
    Adrianus
    20th Jul 2015
    4:34pm
    mick, I think you read too much Murdoch Press.

    17th Jul 2015
    11:09am
    She definitely won't resign as she has deluded herself into believing she has done nothing wrong - just like any other typical politician would do. Her public statement contained no apology, as politicians are too righteous for any wrong-doing, are above reproach, and to say they are sorry is a sign of weakness, fault, and government inability - oh, perish the thought! Yes, this does reek of cynicism.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:52pm
    This is the arrogance of class. What do they say: "nothing corrupts like absolute power". The smiling assassin certainly lives up to that one.
    wally
    17th Jul 2015
    11:12am
    Some of our respondents seem to think that Madame Speaker should be chained to a lamp post, stripped to the waist and flogged without mercy with a cat of nine tails for what she has done regarding her helicopter flight. Some others think she deserves this sort of treatment anyway, just because she is a politicians. She, like other politicians who have embarrassed themselves on both sides of politics need to remember that not only should they do the right thing, they should be SEEN to be doing the right thing. Or at least not get caught doing what seems to be the wrong thing.

    Others have mentioned instances where politicians from both sides have been caught out before. Whether deliberately, (in cases where the "rorts" have been repeated over a period of time), or instances of "one offs", (which appears to be the case in Ms Bishop's recent escapade), the distinction should be made between those who do so once through negligence or oversight and those who persist in repeated abuse their position in over use ot their "perks".

    So it has all happened before, and will happen again. Lots of sound and fury will ensue, and when the uproar subsides and the media finally loses interest, it will be back to business as usual.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    11:19am
    I don"t know about chaining her to a lamp post but we definitely don"t want any part of her stripped.
    Strummer
    17th Jul 2015
    11:28am
    I definitely do not want to see Madam Speaker stripped to the waist. I've just had my breakfast.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    2:55pm
    wally: there are rorts and there are rorts. What was Peter Slipper's sin? $20? Compare that to this one.......with no witch hunt. Just moving on. Says a lot.
    "Stripped to the waist"? Please no. That would be a horror story on top of corruption at work!
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:12pm
    Correct: actually Slipper rorted $954. Bishop rorted over $5000.....and that is before you look at her huge travel bills which are close to $1 million.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    11:19am
    Attending their own party fundraisers is not what she was elected to do , I don't mind if she has to use tax payers money to go to official parliamentary engagements but not to raise money for her own party and on top of that to want to make a grand arrival, unbelievable.
    MITZY
    17th Jul 2015
    11:33am
    I agree, as stated in the media, why did she even have to take a helicopter flight when she had a Commonwealth Car at her disposal and the distance she had to travel was negligible. It was a grand gesture at the taxpayer's expense.
    Any Liberal Party or Labor Party function for their parties, should never be at the expense of the taxpayer. Its all wrong and arrogant too.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    11:35am
    I don't know for sure but isn't the Speaker supposed to be impartial and not to attend their party meetings?, I understood that was a condition of the position of Speaker of the House.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    1:37pm
    The best crooks are the ones that know all the legal loopholes. Those legal loopholes have to be closed to no longer be abused.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:47pm
    jackie,
    OWNING the SYSTEM (effectively that is) makes an even better crook!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:00pm
    Misty: My understanding is that the current speaker (Bishop) has thrown out Labor members around 400 times whilst she has only thrown out government members on 8 occasion. Tells a story.
    Impartial? No....a dead set Liberal Party stoolie tilting the table. What ever changes with this most despicable bunch of Liberal Party misfits who have no respect for the law or honesty of any kind.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    3:16pm
    mick, those numbers absolutely tell a story!!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:10pm
    The story they tell Frank is that the speaker is a BIASED LNP PLANT. I cannot make it clearer than that.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:16am
    mick you obviously have not watched much of question time. I think 10 year olds would behave better than your labor mates.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:13pm
    Statistics are statistics.
    Tarabelle
    17th Jul 2015
    11:22am
    She believes she is entitled. Her spending is a reflection of this - and her arrogance. Very interesting to watch her performances as Speaker.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    11:56am
    They all think they are ''entitled''. And they are all arrogant. And it's time the rules were changed AND the politicians were changed. We need leaders with ethics and integrity, not selfish, self-serving egotists who believe they have superior entitlement and have no regard for the people they are paid so generously to serve.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    12:01pm
    Rainey, they are not all arrogant. Some politicians are hard working people who never get caught up in this sordid stuff. Unfortunately it could be in part because we don't seem to acknowledge the hard work many of them do that more decent, hard-working people don't run for seats. So that leaves space for the less honourable ones. sort of a self-perpetuating problem.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:13pm
    Here is a person whose supposed to know rules. she uses the rules of the parliamentary house to strenuously (very one sided it would appear) to keep the house in order.

    Now we are saying that she made a mistake misinterpreting about a rule about travel entitlements.

    In that case how many parliamentary rules has she misinterpreted.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:01pm
    If you have a look at the huge amount Bishop spends on 'travel' you get a sense of the contempt she has for us all.
    Strummer
    17th Jul 2015
    11:23am
    Resign! And give up all those perks? Not likely. This is the same woman who proclaimed "Do you know who I am?" when a pilot told her she couldn't use her mobile phone on an aeroplane. Pigs at the trough indeed!
    Oars
    17th Jul 2015
    12:08pm
    The tart who was witnessed to say "Do you know who I am ?" is one of the labor party tragics who "represented" Robertson- married to another DelAboosybritches . Why not focus on thos two ??? One eyed drips !!!!
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:17pm
    When we have an obviously LNP hack coupled with the disgusting narrative no wonder we are in the state we are in.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:04pm
    Oars: O'Neill was a Labor MP and she was rightfully hounded out of office. Bishop is a Liberal Party MP and is being protected by the Party machine. What sort of message does that send? Clearly the last 2 years of attacking ordinary Australians whilst governing for the bid end of town tells a compelling tale.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    11:25am
    Ms Bishop has been caught out on this one, trying to cram in the day. Seems like the high cost of the chopper was maybe a last minute idea. None the less Abbotts 25% penalty is warranted because the travel expense was to attend a Liberal Party Fund Raiser.
    I also think she has demeaned the position of Speaker.
    However, I do think it is a bit rich of Bill Shorten, who was last week found to be colossally arrogant in his shameful 8 year late declaration of some $70,000 worth of previously undeclared Electioneering funding. As an out-of-touch, arrogant Union Rep. who presided over the cutting of incomes of vulnerable working Australians at Cleanevent.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    11:29am
    These vulnerable working Australians trusted their union rep.
    Brissiegirl
    17th Jul 2015
    11:38am
    Don't forget that Bill the union rorter saw fit to throw the f word at the nice little pie shop lady. So much for standing up for workers.
    Polly Esther
    17th Jul 2015
    11:59am
    Bill Shorten will never ever be the woman Bronwyn Bishop is, why?
    because he doesn't have the balls.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    12:11pm
    Yes, he tried to lie his way out of that too. The security camera also had audio so we all had a glimpse of the real Bill. Very much like the Rudd meltdowns we were exposed to. Why take it out on the little pie shop lady? Then make up some story about her slurring Julia Gillard? This is how he treats Labor voters. Further evidence that many are being taken for a ride.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:09pm
    Franks: So here is the Liberal Party stoolie at work again.
    You begrudgingly understand that Bishop has behaved in a dishonest manner.....and then you have the hide to again attack the previous PM (Gillard) who your employer hounded out of office and through the courts but who ended up with NO CASE TO ANSWER.
    I am thinking that Gillard should be coming after you Frank for smearing her reputation. Not a shred of evidence. What a piece of work.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    3:14pm
    I am thinking that the people in white coats are coming after you mick.
    What courts did Julia Gillard attend???? Please explain???
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:14pm
    Gillard was crucified at the LNP initiated Royal Commission and was shown not have a case to answer............despite you continued insistence that she was guilty of a crime. She wasn't and never was. Well you knew that didn't you.
    She did not get hauled into the courts. You have that one right Frank.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:19am
    Thank you mick.
    Now tell me how I smeared Gillard?
    Polly Esther
    18th Jul 2015
    1:44pm
    No Frank, mick is surely the one who is smeared, he is again talking like as if he is in the grip of the grape. LOL
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:16pm
    Your continual allegations over the past 2 years Frank where you claim that Gillard has been guilty of corrupt behaviour. Forgotten already? In case you did not notice she was acquitted of all charges made by this government in opposition....and you.
    Adrianus
    20th Jul 2015
    4:38pm
    I have been a member of YLC for only 12 months? Again you make up stories to suit your argument.
    Phil1943
    17th Jul 2015
    11:25am
    Yet another sign the senior Libs just don't get that the 'age of entitlement' is over. She'll probably get away with her expenses fraud just by apologising to the PM (who says he's her 'love child') but she should really resign from the Speaker's position.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:10pm
    Phil: our age of entitlement is overs, theirs never is.
    Not Senile Yet!
    17th Jul 2015
    11:25am
    She new that she was attending a Liberal Party Conference!
    She also knew that it was inappropriate to claim the expense of the helicopter ride.
    Given that it is clear that she tried it on to claim it as an expense.....it amounts to Fraud!!!!
    Never mind asking for her Resignation......it is clearly her Party's Responsibility through Tony to SACK her!!!!!
    If it was anyone else......we would be sacked AND CHARGED with Fraud!!!!
    So sick of the Party Machine Club attitude!!!!
    Stop voting these Party Puppets into OUR Parliament!!!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:11pm
    Yes. It was fraud. Peter Slipper was hounded out of office for, I believe, a $20 cab charge. Bishop needs to be sacked!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:14pm
    Thanks for the last bit. I keep trying to educate people that the only way to fix the political system is to VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT - BOTH SIDES.
    The only way to do that is vote in Independents. Heaps of them. Then real democracy would be reestablished and genuine collective bargaining would occur.
    And whilst I am at it please make sure that if you decide to vote INdependent then make sure that your candidate's preference does not flow to this disreputable government as I understand that a number of Independents may be put up by the government to do exactly this.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    3:32pm
    For God sake mick, you are losing it!! Hold yourself together! Sacked for a 15min chopper flight???!!! Go into the garden and take a couple of deep breaths.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:17pm
    What it was is corrupt behaviour, not an oversight. Peter Slipper was hauled through the courts for $954. Bishop was > $5000. SHE NEEDS TO GO.
    Bes
    17th Jul 2015
    11:26am
    Apparently the rules for politicians are: If you get caught out offer to repay the amount.
    Now wouldn't that be great if we could all get away with that arrangement?
    Free of earning interest on our savings, forgetting to tell Centrelink if we should earn a little.
    Anything gifted to us pensioners from our kids would not become an asset! Etc etc etc.
    If we can have a Royal Commission into the suspected unlawful dealings of the Unions then the spending of politicians should be the Inquiry.
    Messrs Abbott and Hockey and Co are well and truly beginning to look bloody ordinary and are going to struggle in the next election.
    The government of the day should be working to the Very Best of Their Ability in the Very Best Interest of the Australian Taxpayer......and that includes setting a good example!
    Is there such a team on the horizon?
    The actions of Ms Bishop and others like her only serves to ignite 'protest' votes of the ever increasing numbers of disillusioned 'swing voters!'
    It is not good for future governance of Australia when we can't trust the people we vote for!
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:20pm
    It's the same thing that can be applied to a thief who is caught stealing.

    "Well we caught you for this one, how many others are there that we didn't catch you"
    MITZY
    17th Jul 2015
    11:27am
    The majority of both sides of politics are continually doing these rorts over and over and over and they never learn. To me robbing the taxpayer to feather their own nests and indulge in their "self-importance" is the bottom of the barrel.
    If this woman had rorted the same way in a private company she would have been sent packing straight away. She won't be too happy that her party put in place fines for this very demeanour and will also pay a fine for it. Caught by her own party's rulings.
    Go Bronwyn, go quickly, you have cheated, you have deceived, and above all you are a very biased Speaker in the manner in which you have performed in that role.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    11:46am
    Mitzy I don't agree with your first sentence - I don't believe the majority are continually rorting their entitlements. Personally I don't believe it should be difficult to craft some clear cut rules to cover MP entitlements. And if the rules are clear then any breaches should be immediately sanctioned. The flip side is that if the arrangements are within the rules then applying those rules should not be open to criticism. i.e. the ethical or legal argument.
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    12:05pm
    Mitzy, there is no evidence at all that the majority of politicians are rorting the system. The system is generous and they benefit from that, but that is a far different thing from rorting. However, those who are caught in this stuff should be sent packing the sooner the better.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:23pm
    It is possibly true that the majority are not doing this.

    Yet the government seems to be quite happy to declare to the world that the majority of DSP recipients are rorting the system.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    1:43pm
    MITGZY
    I suggest it to be "LIKELY" that the 1st sentence in your posting IS CORRECT!
    Bronwyn Bishop should Not ONLY pay back the amount, get sacked but ALSO she should be charged with FRAUD.
    Steeling is an offence in Australia and the same laws must be applied to parlementarians as apply to US.
    After all, in the eyes of THE LAW, we're all equal - ARN'T WE ??????
    Bes
    17th Jul 2015
    3:45pm
    The Grand Bane of Australia!
    Go on Tony Knight her !
    MITZY
    17th Jul 2015
    5:12pm
    Rob: Why would they want to craft something to make it clear ... they would rather it be unclear so they can work around the ambiguity. After all the majority of them are lawyers, aren't they?
    As long as everything remains as "clear as mud" they're very happy.
    tisme
    17th Jul 2015
    11:41am
    she should resign and enjoy her tax payer funded retirement. to many of them misuse public money.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:43am
    Why? She has paid back the money plus 25% penalty so it all done and dusted.
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    12:48pm
    Oh so that makes it right, Bonny? The LNP dragged Peter Slipper through court over his $900 taxi rides. He wasn't given the option of just "paying it back."

    I'd like an investigation into the rest of the $330,000 in expenses she's claimed in 12 months, in particular the $90,000 spent on a European jaunt where she applied for a new job!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    3:11pm
    This Thatcher worshipper is a proven dishonest person and should have a criminal record too.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:24pm
    Bonny: Why are supporting a criminal? Bishop only paid back the money because she had to. And remember that Peter Slipper was forced to resign and was dragged through the courts for over a year for an indiscretion of $954 (just looked that up).
    Peter Slipper asked that he be able to repay the amount like Tony Abbott did but refused. How unusual!
    Your post reeks of complicity Bonny. Who are you? A Bishop staffer?
    Denny
    17th Jul 2015
    11:46am
    I am amazed at the cost of her trips and would love to see the details of how she managed to run up such bills. Surely everyone in Parliament should be practising economy in these times.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:26pm
    yes, apparently the cost of one trip was the same total combined cost of 4 other MP's on the same trip.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:25pm
    Bishop runs up huge travel bills. Blind Freddy might seriously think that they are all work related. I am wondering if some are holidays dressed up as 'work'. It would be good if this could be investigated.
    MammaBird
    17th Jul 2015
    11:47am
    The problem I have with this is the lack of ability of these people to judge the publics opinion of what actions they are considering. It shows a total disconnect from the standards most people believe acceptable. As such they are not fit to hold public office.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    12:01pm
    I'm not sure there is such thing as an agreed public opinion. Clear cut rules and enforcement of those rules are answer.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:29pm
    There are indeed quite a few MPs who are not fit to hold office.....but the electorate keeps voting for them. Seriously, who in their right mind would vote for Pyne, Bishop, Hockey, Corman or Abbott? Whilst these people may be clever politicians they are poison to us all as they continually trash the nation with no respect for it or the future of any of us.
    dougie
    17th Jul 2015
    11:51am
    All Politicians should have their travel and living expenses checked monthly by an independent officer. These expenses should be checked against a clearly defined list of authorised expenses and should not exceed a set amount. The only variation to this should be when entertaining overseas guests and this should also be heavily scrutinised. No too hard I would think.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    11:55am
    Agree Dougie.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:30pm
    A good start.
    bartpcb
    17th Jul 2015
    11:55am
    As Speaker of the House she has shown blatant bias toward the right wing. Her attendance at Liberal party recruitment functions is simply a confirmation of that bias. Her credibility is as tenuous as was Mr Slippers' who was another right wing member. She should stand down.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    11:58am
    The Speaker of either party is under current rules encouraged/entitled to maintain party affiliations. I must admit I would support separate election for position of
    Speaker.

    I'm sure there would some outstanding candidates who would stand for that role as an independent person.
    Jacka
    17th Jul 2015
    11:56am
    She should be sacked. Any public servant would be sacked. If the other politicians didn't have their snouts in the trough, she would be sacked. Disgraceful !!!!! Jacka.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:59am
    Why because she is human and made a small mistake and paid the penalty? Good heavens looks like the tall poppy syndrome is still alive and well.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    12:03pm
    Bonny - I think your a flogging a dead horse here. We expect and pay for our representatives to exercise better judgement than this.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:08pm
    I think she did exercise very good judgement and she rectified the matter in the appropriate way. If that's not good enough for people here then so be it. Worrying about such trivial matters like this is just silly.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    12:10pm
    And if that is what Rob thinks Bonny then you better believe it, you are out of touch and out of step with everyone else on this,
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:15pm
    Nope I'm not out of touch just realistic enough to believe people are human and make mistakes and if they follow the rules and fix them then that should be the end of the matter. If we all lived this way then it would be a much better place for all of us.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    12:20pm
    Bonny the problem she faces was signing a document that stated she was on official government business. (as I understand it)
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:22pm
    Isn't Liberal fund raising part of government business? After all that's what gets them elected in the first place.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    12:37pm
    I don't believe it is Bonny but I can't find anything on Google that says this is so, but I think this why she has to pay the money back and if it is it should be banned from all sides ,that is not what we pay our MP'S to do, go to political fund raising events. They can do it in their own time and with their own money and transport.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    1:49pm
    Bonny,
    If/when I a - as a human - drive through a RED traffic Light at 2 0'clock in the morning and get caught by the camera or a "Cop Car" will they not fine me.
    NO, the max. fine will apply although no-one was injured or hurt!!!
    Bronwyn Bishop, the example you set to your constituents is appalling!
    Go & Find yourself another job whilst Criminal Charges are applied.
    SIMPLE - Isn't it
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    1:57pm
    No that's the problem the rules whatever they are have been seen already to be able to be interrupted both for and against her. So she did the honourable thing and paid back the money plus the penalty as a jester of her interrogatory.

    Running a red traffic light is clearly in the wrong and you deserve to get caught. This has no relation to BB what so ever.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:53pm
    Bonny
    Do you have ESP????
    If you don't know the rules - as you have admitted a few times now - how is it possible to make the remarks you're making.

    Running a Red Light without anybody being HURT should not be punished at all!!!!
    That is as long as nobody was hurt or any damage occured!
    Australia IS - according to OUR Constitution - a Country in which Common Law prevails & is THE LAW.
    Under those condition - seen that NOBODY WAS HURT - it SHOULD not be possible to "Find me Guilty". This in accordance if Common Law Principles' You MUST have done damage before you can be Accused and TRIALLED before a Jury.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:32pm
    Bonny: "Isn't Liberal fund raising part of government business?"

    Are you for real? What part of the national interest is fundraising for the next election? And we all wonder why the country is being sold out and some people slap the bastards on the back.
    bobby
    17th Jul 2015
    12:02pm
    It would be hypocritical to make her resign. But if she does go then I would like it to become a precedent for all members who misuse taxpayers funds. Oh Hell! We would have to have elections annually because neither party would have enough members to govern.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    1:50pm
    Why would it be hypocritical???
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:36pm
    If they can be jailed for fraud whilst in office then they would all behave or at worst hide their deceit better. I'd suggest that a Royal Commission into Liberal Party election funding might turn up some interesting data. Link that to policies enacted in the parliament and there I am sure lies the basis of significant corruption allegations.
    We need SENTENCES FOR CORRUPTION and a PATRIOT ACT to deter those who get themselves elected for other than the national interest.
    ghoti
    18th Jul 2015
    5:05pm
    Tony Abbott, April 21 2012:
    "(This goes) to the integrity not just of the Parliament but of the Prime Minister and of the Government. The Prime Minister cannot wash her hands of this business the way she has tried to wash her hands of the allegations concerning Mr Thomson because Mr Slipper is no mere backbencher. Mr Slipper is the Speaker of the Parliament. Mr Slipper occupies a very, very important office. He is the guardian of the standards of the Parliament, the protector of the reputation of the Parliament and now there are these extremely serious allegations against him and that’s why the only proper way forward is for the Speaker to step aside while these allegations are being dealt with. If he doesn’t do so voluntarily, the Prime Minister should indicate that she will require him to step aside until these matters are resolved."
    see https://web.archive.org/web/20120511152707/http://liberal.org.au/Latest-News/2012/04/21/Tony-Abbott-Doorstop-Peter-Slipper-MP.aspx
    You might not detect it, Bobby, but I smell the faintest whiff - a mere smidgin - of hypocrisy here.
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    5:49pm
    Totally.
    Oars
    17th Jul 2015
    12:06pm
    Then that means that the previous "prime Minister Jukliar " will pay back the 43 Million rort she engineered for her Union mates too??

    Get a baklance on things you died in the sand lefties. All polies play up- but the Labor party has it as an art form.
    ghoti
    17th Jul 2015
    1:11pm
    Oars: When the previous time that travel expenses rorts were exposed (which included Abbott having to pay back thousands of dollars and some LNP drip from WA flying to Queensland with his wife, on taxpayers' money, to buy an investment property), there was just one Labor Party rorter identified compared to several from the LNP. What evidence do you have for "the Labor party has it as an art form"?
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    1:52pm
    Oars,
    Provide the PROOF - and if provided - they should indeed be charged
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:38pm
    $43 million? Please explain that one.
    The corruption I am aware of is the current government which repealed the Carbon Tax for its mates in the coal industry. The tax had nothing to do with jobs and nothing to do with high electricity prices as we continually hear the government liars cry out.The cost to the public Oars: 48 BILLION EVERY YEAR. That is what taxpayers now chip in.

    17th Jul 2015
    12:11pm
    Oh that YLC feel that the biggest problem that we should consider is this subject ..
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    12:12pm
    Look over here guys someone has scratched themselves ignore the train wreck across the road ...
    LeonYLC
    17th Jul 2015
    12:38pm
    It's obviously not the 'biggest problem' that we are facing, but it is an issue for discussion, especially when you consider that Ms Bishop's travel expenses equate to what six Age Pensioners would receive in a year. Maybe there's savings the Government can find that don't come from pensioner and superannuant pockets?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    12:58pm
    Get real Leon why are you wasting everyone's time on this subject
    Where have the govt made savings on superannuants and pensioners . Pensioners would get a raise if labor would pass the pension reform . Those saving for their retirement pay tax on their savings and some dopes call this a concession.
    If you want to look at savings the taxpayer could make to make a dent in our billion dollar interest bill a month it ain't going to come from Ms Bishops travel bill .
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    1:01pm
    Their are a 120,000 readers of this site all aged over 50 that is a lot of accumulated wisdom and you waste it on undergrad discussions ...
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    1:45pm
    If you want a subject that might interest all your readers rather than the few interested in politics .
    Why not join a discussion I put up in meeting place " let's get real " I think .
    Where I am putting up a proposition to increase the pension and increase the amount that one can save for a non govt pension ..
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    1:53pm
    Pete,
    $5000.00+ might be "just a flee bite" to you.
    However, it is NOT to most of us!
    CHARGE BB WITH FRAUD AND SACK HER!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:07pm
    Ok Patriot ? You spend your time on suggestions of what the govt will do with its windfall of 5000 and I will spend it on ways to increase the pension. Without adding to ouR debt ..,
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    2:08pm
    Pete, YLC is not wasting your time, if you are not interested then just don't engage. the fact that this has raised many, many more responses than anything else recently suggests that lots of people are very interested in this.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:18pm
    This is part of the root problem with Australian politics - a thing that impacts on us all. It is the incredible sense of entitlement elected servants of the people assume they have once they are in place. Way past time for all the opportunity for this false sense of entitlement to prosper to be removed.

    THAT is an important first step in restoring government by the people and for the people and not just OF the people.

    Bravo YLC!!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:30pm
    Ok ok I will retract my statement that YLC has 120,000 wise readers it's obviously not the case..
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:55pm
    Pete,
    Principles are important you know.
    It is a proven fact that kids who like to hurt animals have a much better change to become violent criminals.
    Same principles apply to our Parlementarians!
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:57pm
    TREBOR
    SO Correct!!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:21pm
    Pete - the issue you raise about pensions being raised and money put aside for retirement, and equal treatment for all, has been discussed at massive length here on this forum. I think they've done a great job with it so far and many relevant issues have been raised as a result of the airing of super and pensions etc.

    It is just such fora that politicians get their lackeys (a room full of Bonnys) to check so as to gain a feel for the pulse of the people affected.

    All everyone asks is for fair and equal treatment for all under retirement income packages - and the issues involved are simple enough. Simply put - EVERYONE who pays tax as part of a family unit contributes to their own government pension as part of income tax - those who put away super get tax benefits those who do not have no chance to get - then pensioners who work are taxed on aged pension in addition to earnings.

    Now a fair system would be to pay everyone the pension and tax all income above that level.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:38pm
    So you want to raise the income tax levels and pay everyone a pension .
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:19pm
    But I wouldn't accept a pension as I just don't need it and I'd just pay it all back in tax. Seems like a silly idea to me with lots of paperwork and unnecessary expenses.
    Pollyanna
    17th Jul 2015
    12:11pm
    I agree with Jackie she should pay back all the money on her overseas travel as well as the helicopter ride. But it is not only her, so many of our politicians use overseas travel to serve to the extreme.
    They are here to serve our country not to gallivant all over the world
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    12:14pm
    You don't wasn't those that pass our laws to be educated to what other countries are doing ..
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    3:13pm
    I agree Pollyanna
    BundyGil
    17th Jul 2015
    12:13pm
    This woman is a disgrace to the pariament on many fronts. This is just a couple of her many, many, inappropriate actions, in and out of parliament
    She needs to go, as does the government, which shows time and again they have no idea of right and wrong while claiming to be christians. The pope had a message for them last week, which they conveniently ignored.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:20pm
    And who are you going to replace the government with? Surely not that alternative government we through out for a reason last election.

    Well funny that you mention christians who believe that if they just pray their sins will be forgiven. Maybe BB should have just prayed instead.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:01pm
    BundyGil
    Tony IS (claims to be) a Christian. He studied to be a priest but abandoned this PATH!
    And Jesuit educated
    And a Rhodes Scolar

    We are able to replace the government with more honest & practical people.
    The country would then NOT BE ON IT's KNEES!!!!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:21pm
    Bonny - this sort of nonsense by elected servants of the people is precisely why we keep being kicked back and forth between two loser parties here. One side gets in and stuffs up - we kick them out - they are replaced by another side that stuffs up - we kick them out - and on and on and on. I've long advocated that we need a new party that will actually address the issues properly, rather than continuing to try to get some sense and reality out of the two over-established parties we currently suffer, both deeply embedded in their sense or entitlement.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:22pm
    .. or is that :-

    Senseless Entitlement, or

    Ageless entitlement.....???
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:58pm
    I agree with you about our government parties with party being the appropriate word. Who would vote for either of them? certainty not me.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:00pm
    TREBOR
    Or is it just a distraction that is purposely created to keep US occupied.
    This in order to allow THEM to enter the "Trojan Horse" through the BackGate???

    Whilst I do not conclude that your suggestion is incorrect I would also not exclude diversion tactics !!!
    THEY ARE CUNNING!!!
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    3:39pm
    Patriot have you considered a job in Hollywood?
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:43pm
    Bonny: there are 2 ways to make the parliament work as it was designed to work:

    1. make donations illegal, both during office and after, including family members and company structures and trusts.
    2. Vote in Independents.

    The problem we have is that voters have been 'farmed' for decades and many think that you can only get real government with one on the 2 major parties. The reality is that this is the problem. VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT and make a difference....and one whose vote does not flow to this bad bad government. Your call.
    Rob
    17th Jul 2015
    12:15pm
    I reckon we should give the Governor-General a real job and make him Speaker.
    BundyGil
    17th Jul 2015
    12:21pm
    This woman is a disgrace to the Parliament and the country, with self indulgent inappropriate indiscretioms both in and out of Parliament and needs to go.
    The government also nesds to go,wikt
    Rosscoe
    17th Jul 2015
    12:29pm
    This is straight out fraud and the Australian Federal Police should be called in.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:02pm
    Agree!
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:06pm
    Federal police have much better things to do than this.
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    2:44pm
    Yes, let the courts decide. And if it was fraud, as I believe it was since she was going to a Liberal Party Fundraiser, (i.e. not WORKING) then she should be punished by the courts just like any other Australian would be, who defrauds taxpayers.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:43pm
    Agreed.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    3:48pm
    I'm starting to think Bishop was on official business.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:20pm
    The next lie Frank? You can try but you can't hide. Bishop WAS NOT ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS. That is the issue.
    Get Real
    17th Jul 2015
    12:30pm
    Typical of this 'do as I say, not as I do' government. The other day there was a report on TV of a woman who had to fight to have her disability pension restored. To hear of her plight was distressing! Dave
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:32pm
    Sensationalism by the media again where we only hear half the story.
    Stoker
    17th Jul 2015
    12:48pm
    Whats the Gov. got to do with the lady's disability pension, I thought office staff and Dr's made the decisions on proper entitlement, if a couple of public servants 'twisted' the lady's story then perhaps they have been shifted sideways, off the front desk. Get Real, politicians do not sit on the front desk.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    2:15pm
    Bet you wouldn't be saying that if it was an opposition or greens member Bonny.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:44pm
    Bonney: you are playing the Liberal Party violin. Rules for some and (different) rules for others.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:21pm
    Same goes for all pollies.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:19pm
    Not even in the same class as the current government. Here you have the proverbial 'do as I say, not as I do' mentality and the total arrogance of denial and dismissal when caught out.
    Supernan
    17th Jul 2015
    12:31pm
    Pollies & their perks ! The sad thing is they all think it is ok to try & get away with it. On Their salaries too ! Yet Pensioners are treated as second class citizens because get angry when they cut our pensi. And keep tinkering with the pension rules so no-one can plan ahead ! Why dont they get fined ? Pensioners would be fined if the Gov caught us disobeying the rules.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:37pm
    And pensioners don't try to get away with it. Good heavens me I suppose to believe that. I agree they do get angry when they get their pension cut because they got caught out and play the poor pensioner card to the max. The pension is too generous now already but everyone seems to just want more and more.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:06pm
    Bonny
    I do not need biniculars to detect from 2 miles distance that you're a PLANT for the NLP.
    You should attempt recognise that BB did a GREAT UNJUSTICE and got caught with FRAUDULENT ACTION.
    Don't "Be a girl" and always change the subject but- instead - admit that a CRIME was committed.
    PlanB
    17th Jul 2015
    2:12pm
    Bonny you have to be bloody joking that pensions are too much, you obvious are not on one so how the hell would you know?!
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    2:17pm
    Yes, Patriot, I'm thinking Bonny is actually BRONNIE! There can't be any other explanation.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:46pm
    Bonny: what do you think would happen to a pensioner who defrauded Centrelink out of $5000? That's right: straight to court. This is where Bishop needs to go.
    Sevi
    17th Jul 2015
    12:33pm
    Raising money for the Liberal Party....hmm, so she wastes $5000.00. If she didn't fancy being driven or didn't have the time why didn't she use Skype? Now that's saving money, it's free. You can't tell me she didn't know the time and date of the event.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:46pm
    It appeared to be outright corruption by another name.
    ronnieb
    17th Jul 2015
    12:36pm
    Captain Tony's team sure know how to overcook the entitlement dollars, yet it flies in the face of Joe's proclamation that we are "beyond the Age of En titlement". Does the Speaker have to be a lifter or leaner to qualify as the most selfish MP in Parliament?
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:49pm
    Captain Tony has one set of rules for his own and another entirely different set for the opposition. It says something about the system and who is pulling the strings that he can get away with this sort of behaviour.
    Not unlike judicial sentences though. A rich man can almost always expect a much more favourable outcome than an average citizen.
    Not a Bludger
    17th Jul 2015
    12:37pm
    Doesn't some minor thing like this bring out the moaning lefties in droves.

    What about all the rorts visited upon we long suffering taxpayers by Wayne Swan, Kevin 747, Bob Carr + wife, Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard + first bloke, to name a few - who can forget the first bloke taking himself & his mates to football matches etc FOC in COM 1 complete with chauffeur.

    Just let the Speaker get on with continuing the first class job that she has been doing.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:39pm
    I agree she has rectified the matter so that's the end of the matter.
    LeonYLC
    17th Jul 2015
    12:41pm
    It is definitely a problem with a lot of politicians from both parties. This is just the latest instalment, and probably won't be the last time we hear of this sort of misuse of funds.
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    12:50pm
    "first class job?" Well if nothing else, I've had a good laugh here this morning!
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    12:51pm
    Me too. I just can't believe that people could get so worked up about such a trivial issue myself.
    geomac
    17th Jul 2015
    12:57pm
    So the outrage by liberals against Slipper for 900 bucks was just a charade then. Why is Bishop allowed to pay back 5 grand but Slipper was denied paying back 900 bucks ? Abbott paid back ten grand. No Bonnie she has not rectified anything. The worst speaker in memory bludger IMO not first, second or even third class. Kerosene Bishop to chopper bishop.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    1:01pm
    Why didn't she take the com car and then she could have donated the $5,000 to the Liberal Party Fundraise,r it would have been the sensible thing to do surely if you had any sense.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:36pm
    Is that so Bonny, you seem to be so worked up that you have commented more than anyone else on this topic.
    Rosscoe
    17th Jul 2015
    2:44pm
    Bishop doing a first class job as a speaker? Most disgraceful speaker in history!
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:04pm
    Rosscoe
    Agree - watching kids quarrel in the "Sand-Pit" is nowhere near as frustrating as watching parliament on the Idiot Box.
    BB as Speaker Makes it even worse!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:51pm
    No a Bludger: And doesn't the concept of equal justice bring out the right wing stoolies when their man is being asked to have the same rules applied as the opposition. Remember Peter Slipper? You were crying for blood there were you not? Yeah right.
    ranga
    17th Jul 2015
    12:52pm
    Bronwyn's first act should be to ditch the eyeliner. YIKES.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:04pm
    How about a haircut
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:51pm
    A "haircut" is what the electorate is getting under this government.
    Leebee
    17th Jul 2015
    12:53pm
    We all agree that the woman should be tarred and feathered...However the awful truth is its our fault that this happens. We have the power and the numbers to have the polly-perks changed, and yet we do nothing. Sadly folks, because of our tolerance we get the government that we deserve.
    Pollyanna
    17th Jul 2015
    1:03pm
    How can we stop the polly perks. Does anyone know how many billions of dollars we pay out to ex polllies. They get an office, desk, secretary, car travel and a huge salary for life.
    How can we stop this
    PlanB
    17th Jul 2015
    2:14pm
    Yes if they cut out the perks for Pollies --they would have the budget back in the black very soon, why should they get more than ordinary workers
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:05pm
    Leebee
    Your sentence is "SomeWhat" light I think!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:52pm
    We get the government we deserve. If we keep putting the bastards back in then how is it ever going to change?
    rtrish
    17th Jul 2015
    12:54pm
    The most partisan Speaker I can ever remember. Not even a pretence that this was for approved travel - it was a Liberal fund-raiser. She has to be seriously challenged on this.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:53pm
    Arrogant piece of work isn't she.
    stake
    17th Jul 2015
    12:59pm
    goodbye bishop
    Troubadour
    17th Jul 2015
    12:59pm
    BOTH sides of Parliament have misused funds - it sees they are all careless in failing to check before the event what is and is not permissible. However the use of a private helicopter for what is a reasaonably short journey easily done by car, like the rest of us have to do - is a GROSS misuse.
    nena
    17th Jul 2015
    1:12pm
    Having read near all comments here I can see now that the speaker of the house has left with only one friend...Bonny
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:10pm
    nena,
    Bonny is just a "Blind & Faithful" Servant of the NLP.
    She would be better off to realise that: "there is NO HONOUR amongst thieves".
    Whist she is is likely to be a fierce supporter only, she'll get dumped quickly when the "Going gets Tough"!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:36pm
    and 'Bonny's' stories change all the time about income, super and so forth.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:56pm
    Yeah nena. Given Bonn'y comment about Bishop doing her own hair Bonny seems to know).
    I hold suspicions that Bonny may be a LNP stoolie in the room.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    4:01pm
    Good lord you people are slow! Bonny is Bronny Bishop!!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:21pm
    Maybe a staffer?
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:21pm
    Maybe a staffer?
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:50pm
    Nope I retired from the grind of trading time for dollars many moons ago.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:21pm
    Really Bonny. You know the old saying though" if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and acts like a duck then its a duck. Respectfully.......some of your posts are the proverbial duck dinner. Nobody could make such posts given the facts, which are clear cut.
    Oars
    21st Jul 2015
    5:18pm
    Patriot- you say there is "no honor amongst thieves" how long have you been in the clergy mate?. This is Australia- the land of opportunity and corruption with a smile. Wake up - we are just learning from the Northern Hemisphere- as they filter into our community. Another feather in the cap for "multiculturalism": - wot a joke ???
    KSS
    17th Jul 2015
    1:14pm
    Adam Gartrell of Fairfax has already come out and admitted that what Ms Bishop did was within the rules for the Speaker. The Speaker role has different rules applied and Ms Bishop has not in fact broken them. [http://media.smh.com.au/video-news/video-national-news/bronwyn-bishops-expenses-explained-6688623.html]

    Whether there is a moral issue over this helicopter flight is a different matter and perhaps the rules do need to be changed/clarified to prevent this sort of unnecessary (if within the rules) expenditure in future. But to say she has abused tax payer money is more than a little disingenuous.

    Mr Shorten is clearly using this to create a smoke screen to divert attention from his own appalling track record of abusing the union movement for his own aspirations at the expense of some of the most poorly paid workers in Australia he was meant to represent. I suggest he remove the log from his own eye before drawing attention to the speck in someone else's!
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    2:35pm
    The Speaker is only allowed to use taxpayer money in relation to her particular job, attending State Liberal Party Fund Raisers is NOT PART OF THE SPEAKER'S JOB, so in that case she has broken the rules.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    3:59pm
    So now it is Shorten's fault that he is the recipient of the next Royal Commission? Lets get it straight KSS, this blog is about Bronwyn Bishop's dishonest bill which we are all paying.
    There is no legitimacy in charging for a PRIVATE FUNCTION and then billing it to taxpayers. I don't care what so called media clown says so. It is what it is.
    KSS
    17th Jul 2015
    5:19pm
    Mick if Mr Shorten had not behaved in the way he did, threatening employers, demanding payments to the unions, signing up people to union memberships they knew nothing about, accepting money for a union man to be on his staff during his election campaign is not his fault, then just what does someone have to do to be made responsible and brought before the Royal Commission? It IS his fault he was questioned over his actions.

    Mr Shorten has not had a good few weeks and this feigned outrage he is displaying is out of all proportion to the incident with Ms Bishop. It is clear he is desperately trying to turn the focus off the shonky deals he brokered between himself, the Labor Party and the unions. And all at the expense of some of the lowest paid workers in Australia.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:26pm
    KSS: Shorten threatened employers? Really?
    Changing the subject is not going to absolve Bronwyn Bishop of her attempt to scam taxpayers.
    Whilst unions need to behave or be prosecuted I also want to see big business which buys legislation prosecuted to the full extent of the existing (and new) laws. We have a one sided accountability with corruption occurring on the other which is simply let go because it is so well disguised and hidden from the public gaze.
    Jen
    17th Jul 2015
    1:24pm
    On her 2 week European trip, Mrs Bishop and two staff members spent $25,400 on accommodation and food, $42,400 on airfares and almost $14,000 on ground transport over the fortnight. They also pocketed about $6000 in advances and for minor and related expenses.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:00pm
    I even hold doubts about this 'expense' as I understand that the expense related to Bishop trying to get a job.
    How about a bit of real journalism here guys.

    17th Jul 2015
    1:27pm
    75 pensioners paid for Bishop's helicopter ride. It's about time the Australian public started waking up to these legal crooks.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    1:32pm
    No BB paid for it plus a 25% penalty.
    PlanB
    17th Jul 2015
    1:37pm
    Not until November does she pay so she said, IF this sort of rort is ilegal then the rules HAVE to be changed
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    1:40pm
    How many of those pensioners should not be getting the pension and when are they going to pay it back?
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:12pm
    Bonny,
    As I said before: "Don't be a girl"!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:23pm
    How many exactly, Bonny? You're the one posing the question......
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:47pm
    Good heavens everyone knows what lengths pensioners go to to get the pension. Most get away with it but some don't and then it's an outcry.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:03pm
    Bonny: please identify yourself to the YourLifeChoices team. The rest of us need to know if you are working on this site given the continual inexplicable comments that no reasonable person could or would make in this case. In case you have not noticed you are pretty well the only poster who believes Bishop has no case to answer......ok, maybe Frank would agree with you and then turn it into a Labor and union post.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    11:04pm
    I don't personally know or have met any of the YourLifeChoices team or Frank or any one else on this forum. My biggest concern is that Australia has become a welfare nation and the tall poppy syndrome is still alive and well.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:23pm
    Not tall poppy syndrome Bonny. Australians hate corruption.
    PlanB
    17th Jul 2015
    1:30pm
    Yes B. Bishop should resign, over this Helicopter ride, what an arrogant piece of work she is and such a Insincere smile and a total BITCH as a speaker too.

    She is 72 or 73 and has no personality so why would she think she had a chance at the job she went for –AT OUR EXPENSE
    HOLA
    20th Jul 2015
    8:25am
    Poor old Bronwyn - she wears enough make up to paint the Harbour Bridge and enough powder to blow it up. She should be given the flick, she's past retiring age .
    tia-maria
    17th Jul 2015
    1:38pm
    Bronwyn Bishop,
    Because you stole from the taxpayers of Australia you need to stand down from your position effected immediately.............no excuse.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    1:41pm
    I think she has done an honourable thing and stood stand up high with pride.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    1:56pm
    I guess it should read now "Tried to steal"
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    2:01pm
    Just a thought. She did a dishonorable thing. She gives it back and now that makes her honorable.

    Isn't this bit like a thief, stole, got caught but he gave it back now he's not a thief anymore.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:04pm
    Funny definition of a thief.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:14pm
    Bonny,
    Again: "don't be a girl".
    BB Committed FRAUD - CLEARLY!!!
    Happy cyclist
    17th Jul 2015
    2:26pm
    Patriot, stop wasting your time arguing with "Bonny", if she is not actually Bronnie herself then she is on her staff and she certianly is a lone voice in this debate.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:00pm
    Bishop thinks she can go on for ever or take it with her to her grave. What a parasite.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:04pm
    RESIGNATION REQUIRED. NOW.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:37pm
    "I think she has done an honourable thing and stood stand up high with pride."

    I hope her katana was sharp....
    tia-maria
    17th Jul 2015
    9:14pm
    Bronny what so honourable about hiring a chopper at the expensive of the taxpayers.............and being caught out for it.......stand down full stop
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:28am
    It's really funny how there is not a whisper from all of you with the large scale problems of corruption being uncovered by the TURC. Geomac stood alone defending his idol Shorten. However, poor little Bronny takes a chopper ride and you want blood, ooh no... call in the police!! I hear you say.
    This is absolutely comical.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:24pm
    Another commercial from our government compliments of Frank. Never any different.
    Robin7
    17th Jul 2015
    1:43pm
    All our pollies have their snouts in the trough - their "wage" is barely half of what they really take from you. They have "allowances" for expenses that are Not audited, they dont have to be spent, they are paid into their bank accounts regardless.
    Just one example - Your pollies are paid generous allowances to send you regular personal letters - The only regular newsletters I get are from the Lord Mayor of Brisbane. WE can predict when an election may be in the offing because the State/Federal members will suddenly send one, in fact we just got the Federal MP's letter this week...
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:58pm
    Robin7
    Agree
    That MUST Stop!!!
    thommo
    17th Jul 2015
    1:49pm
    She is just another spiv and malingerer, just like the rest of her fascist cronies in the Fed Govt.
    PlanB
    17th Jul 2015
    2:05pm
    Yes dead right Thommo
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:08pm
    Well what are yo going to do about it then? Winge so more and do nothing.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    2:14pm
    thommo,
    So right!
    PlanB
    17th Jul 2015
    2:16pm
    No I will be complaining to my Member and more of should
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:06pm
    The public need to hit the media en mass and not buy papers like the Telegraph if it runs the blatant propaganda it runs in the lead up to every election recently. Murdoch may need Abbott and his team of misfits but the nation deserves better.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:00pm
    I bet there was very little said about this in the telegraph except that "Shes a jolly Good Fellow"

    17th Jul 2015
    2:07pm
    She's not alone - the entire current structure for politician and flunkey travel is way over the top and quite unnecessary in many cases. Now somebody try the old worn-out 'pay peanuts you get monkeys' - we get goddamned monkeys on both sides intent on sucking deeply off the public purse at any excuse anyway - and the results are right in front of us all every day with high unemployment, low standards of living, constant furore over such things a paid for pensions ans so forth.

    My rule of thumb is this - if we were to hold a popular vote for plenipotentiary President tomorrow - who would you vote for? I always come up with not one single name I would offer my vote to.

    Bronny should have known bnetter than to imagine she was as Entitled™ to the same treatment as Obama, the chinese or North Korean 'president', or Obama etc in her travel arrangements.

    A hire car or taxi both ways would cost a heap less, and this was just a case of lese majeste ?, and presumption that a lifetime peer ™ should be fully covered for any whim.

    The hue and cry throughout the land was thundrous when Peter Slipper was caught out rorting the Entitlements ™, and the call was loud for his head on a platter for $900.

    Let Bronny accept the same standard for $5227.27 - ESPECIALLY when the whole trip was for a PARTY function - not as part of her job.

    Time to get rid of the Entitlements ™ and bring in a justify your expenditure regime.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:04pm
    Gee TREBOR I had to put that long word into google (plenipotentiary).

    Anyway, If she had taken a taxi and then claimed the cost back and said it was on government business. Wouldn't the same apply. defrauding the tax paying public.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    6:40pm
    Yes - just saying.. had she taken a cab perhaps nobody would have even noticed. Perhaps that is a call to arms to dig deeper.... sift more finely.... catch them all... put Fat Hank and his Centrelink sleuths onto them all...
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:45pm
    Didn't happen with Slipper tho did it.
    bandy
    17th Jul 2015
    2:09pm
    Hi people just to give you a comparison,I receive the old age pension live in a third world country saved for over 3 yrs for a trip to Macedonia(cheap country to visit) cost all up $3500 In round figures for 3 weeks the speaker $5000 for a joy ride in one day,makes you wonder & I think Im fortunate which I am Cheers
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:06pm
    Good post. Keep it up.
    Cogsen
    17th Jul 2015
    2:15pm
    Are we witnessing the birth of "Greece II" in Australia??
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    2:29pm
    I don't think so and apparently Bronwyn doesn't think so the way she is spending our money.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:42pm
    Austerity here we come. If you have any money no pension and only then will you receive a pension half what you receive today. No estate for the kids the government will need that to pay it's debts. Cash in the bank takes 50% haircut.

    Make the most of it while you can.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    3:17pm
    I think Bronwyn could do with a 50% haircut Bonny.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    3:17pm
    I think Bronwyn could do with a 50% haircut Bonny.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:14pm
    I agree Cogsen.
    This has been developing for a long time and this government with all its talk about restoring the Budget as it sent billions of dollars to its vested interests is just getting us there faster: sell our food land to the Chinese government, close down every bit of manufacturing we have, increase imports....and then sell off every bit of infrastructure we have to foreigners.
    Whilst I deplore some of the prop government garbage bonny has written today I do agree with her post here. And if readers think that 'she'll be right' then God help us. She won't!! THis is the perfect storm heading our way and this government's way of fixing the problem is to attack average Australians whilst it continues to ignore things like the superannuation tax shelter for the rich which soaks up billions of dollars of taxpayer money. And then there is the $8 billion every year which goes straight to the fossil fuel industry................ And one wonders why the Grim Reeper is coming......... Must be Friday arvo.
    GiGi
    17th Jul 2015
    2:18pm
    I don't dispute that Parliamentarians need to travel, to keep themselves and their country in personal contact with the world. But how on earth can nearly $5.5 K per day on a trips to Europe be justified? How does one manage that? And, having managed it, how to you look an Australian tax-payer, one of your constituents in the eye? Bishop has been a disgrace as Speaker, a role in which she has been flagrantly biased, now she shows herself (surprise, surprise!) as having little public morality. She should have the honour to resign, but she won't of course, because honour does not appear to be in the nature of the woman. And, besides, resigning when caught out is no longer part of ther Westminister system. It's just so, oh I don't know, just so .... passé.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:25pm
    You can 'study' most things on the internet - as students are forced to do.......
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:08pm
    Maybe she was keeping in touch shouting with a louder hailer at the peons as she flew above them to her private function.
    Abby
    18th Jul 2015
    1:05pm
    What is wrong with modern technology ??? Like a phone ???

    There is NO need for the Politicians to be continuously traveling especially in times of some heavy lifting to be done.
    Cogsen
    17th Jul 2015
    2:29pm
    If anything, it proved one thing that the public are over-taxed!
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    2:43pm
    and pensioners overpaid.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:10pm
    B(r)onny
    The hourly rate you're getting paid for being so annoying & contancerous must be substantial!
    Other wise you would join the Neighbour's kids in the SandPit and would not need to be Intellectually challenged with our current debate!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:15pm
    Yes Bonny: "let them eat cake" whilst your end of town lives like there is no tomorrow.
    Theo1943
    17th Jul 2015
    5:34pm
    Bonny, a married pensioner gets $300 a week. Tell me how much you want that reduced to.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:45pm
    Bonny and the LNP want no pensioners at all.....work to 70 and drop dead. And then no pension at all. Correct?
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:08pm
    Gee $300 a week I doubt I'd spend that much a month myself.

    You can retire at any age but the pension should only be there for those who have no other means of support. I retired in my late 30s and it was the best thing I ever did.
    Jen
    19th Jul 2015
    11:04am
    I think Bonny's pulling a few legs here. ;)
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:28pm
    Less than $300 a week Bonny. I am uproarious laughter. You obviously have a fully funded house, no rates, no electricity, no insurance, no car and associated costs (rego, insurance, fuel, maintenance, etc.) and you eat grass.
    You've got that one right Jen. Maybe Bonny is losing it.
    HOLA
    24th Jul 2015
    9:21am
    I think Bonny is being looked after by a Sugar-Daddy. Or maybe she works for Ashleigh Maddison ?

    17th Jul 2015
    2:31pm
    Best thing to come out of this discussion is the clear identification of the party 'shills' here... now we can all go on without bothering to answer their endless refrains of the party line....

    I recall a US Mustang pilot in WWII got The Medal Of Honour for defending a damaged wing-mate against German fighters - even when his guns were jammed and he was forced to make mock passes at them.... another got one for single-handedly defending a bomber formation....

    Bonny - you deserve at least the same.....
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:41pm
    .... never hit the gun button on a 'Stang with the nose pitched up over 30 degrees.. that damned outer gun with the kink in the belts will do it every time.... best to remove the two outer guns entirely and use four....
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:16pm
    Spot on Trebor. The posts speak for themselves.
    Forget about 'Bonny and Clyde'. We have BONNY and FRANK.
    ghoti
    17th Jul 2015
    2:36pm
    I would like to know how she got back from Geelong. Did there happen to be a spare Commonwealth car waiting for her there? Or did it have to come from Melbourne to pick her up? Did we also pick up a hotel bill and other entitlements? What did she achieve on that trip that was of benefit to taxpayers? Like that LNP drip from WA, did she have an important "meeting" (a drink in a pub) with a colleague?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    2:39pm
    I think the chopper waited for her for the return run......
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    3:19pm
    Maybe she had a bad hair day and need the chopper to get her there on time.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:17pm
    I believe it was a return trip deal.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:41pm
    Phew - that's a relief - only $2600 each way or $30+ a kilometer
    Waiting to retire at 70
    17th Jul 2015
    2:38pm
    'Will no one rid [us] of this meddlesome Bishop?'. And that troublesome Abbott, for that matter. Apologies to King Henry II
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:19pm
    All it takes is voters who disregard the media propaganda coming from the Murdoch empire and from the big media players locally (all big business controlled).
    Oh, I forgot about the ABC.........but Abbott and his cronies are still working on that one.
    GiGi
    17th Jul 2015
    2:43pm
    Trebor, there is no point in being unnecessarily 'agin'. The internet is not a substitute for travel, personal experience etc. Our politicians should be able to travel - just not so expensively.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    2:46pm
    Has anyone bothered to check and see if the chopper pilot was a relative of Bronny's? Seems an awful lot to pay for that trip?
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:19pm
    Come now Frank. You mean you do not know?
    edly
    17th Jul 2015
    2:57pm
    Liberals do not take responsbility for breaches of rules. Remember Abbott! Just hound others and pretend to be self-righteous.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:20pm
    ANd had no case to answer with his own travel rorts. How does that work? Is it a network of mates protecting the Liberal side of politics? Please explain!
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    2:58pm
    What does "official purposes" mean? If Bishop was attending the function in her official capacity then she was quite entitled to charge the cost to the tax payer. I still cannot understand why the chopper was $5k though? What were the consequences of Bishop arriving 1 hour later?
    jeffr
    17th Jul 2015
    4:09pm
    Frank you never cease to amaze me, you tell Mick to take deep breaths, otherwise the white coats might turn up and you are obviously a Liberal supporter.
    Would you not agree to let the Federal Police decide if ANY politician is GUILTY of ANY crime. Perhaps you could also convince all of your other Liberal mates to agree and also ask Mick to get his mates to agree.That way all of us can get on with life.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:21pm
    What a stoolie Frank. You know full well that Bishop was on a private errand.
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    8:26pm
    jeffr, I am not a liberal supporter. I support Australia first and foremost. Having served my country I understand the true meaning of that. I would be happy for an oversight committee or the AFP if that what it takes to investigate the matter.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:47pm
    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha....... Frank you crack me up.
    Nobody believes anything you said above.
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    7:49am
    Lying, deceit, secrecy, propaganda, ignoring the law, selling us out to overseas interests, destroying the environment. It's the Liberal Way.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:29pm
    Methinks that average Australians are listening to the glossy advertising, believing the lies and think that the Liberal side of government is actually capable of running the country. Are people really that dumb?
    carmencita
    17th Jul 2015
    3:06pm
    Not only pay back the money but she should be prosecuted. If she signed the normal form she is liable for corrupt practices. This should also snowball to other parliamentarians and staff who are taking advantage of their positions by using taxpayer funded trips. It is hypocritical to preach about cost savings to the public when they are squandering taxpayers' money themselves.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:13pm
    100% support for such actions!
    Hang the B***erds OUT TO DRY!!!
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:14pm
    Or should that be LEECHES ??? Maybe BOTH !?!?!?!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:21pm
    Ditto.
    gle
    17th Jul 2015
    3:18pm
    Of course that money has to be repaid, not just the helicopter charge. $42,805.51 for a trip to Asia? Why is it so expensive? $8,000.00 to Europe, where did she stay what hotels, Also why do they have to fly 1st or business class if we are paying. I am amazed and just sick of hearing these things all the time. Who do these people think they are, get back to the real world all of you.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:17pm
    Quite easy Tomic was paying $7000 a night for a penthouse in Miami. (and that will be put down as expenses against his tax. Roll on the Buffet Rule)
    Kaz
    17th Jul 2015
    3:24pm
    I could not agree more Mick
    Paulodapotter
    17th Jul 2015
    3:48pm
    Now, now, ol' brass bottoms was born to rule. You just go easy on her. She can't 'elp 'erself.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    3:57pm
    She should go & Rule somewhere else.
    A little building that - in olden days used to be in a home's backyard - sounds a good start.
    Leebee
    17th Jul 2015
    3:50pm
    Bonney, you're not Bishops love child are you? I don't think I've ever come across such a cheek-turner as yourself. You're the reason these politicians get away with their fraudulent activities, you tell them that it's alright to rob from the poor to give to the rich. How did your feel about the Craig Thompson rip off...was that ok too?
    Bishop is paying for the trip now because she got caught not because she is a decent human being! Get real girl!
    Adrianus
    17th Jul 2015
    4:04pm
    Why pay out on Craig Thompson? As he said, he was only doing what everyone else in the union does.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:31pm
    Here it is again. Frank and Craig Thompson. LNP stooge.
    I am with you Leebee.

    17th Jul 2015
    4:01pm
    I want to know why she was wasting her time in Geelong Liberal wont win a seat there, it is full of freeloaders such as pensioners dole bludgers and other welfare recipients and we all know those of them that can write vote left wing.

    That should get a few of you going.
    Young Simmo
    17th Jul 2015
    4:32pm
    robbo, you have just convinced me to stay in beautiful "WA".

    Did you know that "WA" stands for, "WAY AHEAD" ?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:38pm
    I hope you barrack for freo Young Simmo
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:44pm
    Swans - they had the sense to get out while the going was good...
    Not Amused
    17th Jul 2015
    4:53pm
    robbo you have all the left-wing freebie types here today. Bishop made a mistake believing she hadn't breached the rules, but quickly paid it back, it wasn't prised out of her like Thomson and co. That's very different from what we are now seeing with Labor's union thugs and their conniving, using workers as their cash-cows, one of them yesterday charged with blackmail. Then go to the AWU-WRA threesome and where did all that money go? Just luck the union mafia didn't arrange for Bruce Wilson as our Prime Minister.What about the Widows' and Orphans' fund money - there was Gillard another politician, assuring the poor bloody workers their money would be o.k. Well Bishop and all her politician colleagues do get perks, they do make mistakes but deliberate rip-offs like is being exposed in the TURC every day? I think not. But I'll guarantee one thing there's always one lot which is far, far worse than the other and the ones that put our country into debt, put the sugar on the table to entice drownings at sea, invited all the Centrelink Seekers in (handing out money and comforts that could go to our own pensioners), they are the ones I most fear. The worst of the worst are Labor/union bosses and their Green mates of convenience. Yes I voted Labor because my parents taught us kids about Labor's hay-days but when I grew up and found out what a disgusting, self-elevating, incompetent rabble they are with all their union thug mates and their under-educated friends getting automatic selection for parliament seats I woke up. Mum and Dad, this is not the Labor Party you knew during WWII and the Great Depression. It's not a matter of Bronwyn Bishop's stupid error, it's a matter of who keeps this country safe, how our glorious soldiers would turn in their graves if they could know how badly they have been let down, and what a disgraceful social and financial mess we are in despite them giving their lives to keep Australia safe and just look at us, not too far behind Greece with all our whining, grab-all freeloaders that want Labor to do what Labor does best - facilitate the taxpayers forking out for their every want.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:24pm
    What do you mean "Quickly paid It back" when was the fundraising, wasn't before the last Vic election. Well that was over 9months again. You have a funny definition of "quick" no she agreed to pay it back because she was found out.

    And stop trying to confuse things by shoving into this forum things that have nothing to do with it. This is about poly rorting not about trade unions.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:52pm
    No Amused: that rant sounds like a Frank LNP advertisement.
    The facts are clear: Bishop DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE. She knew she was going to a liberal party fundraiser and she has been in politics long enough to understand what Government Business is and what a Private Fundraiser Function is.
    What we see is an attempt to defraud taxpayers. You cannot misconstrue this as an "accident".
    Not Amused
    18th Jul 2015
    10:44am
    Wstaton, don't tell me what to think and what to say. I'm not living in Commie China yet. Yes it is about poly rorting but most of the poly rorting that has been going on is from ex-trade union thugs and bosses with all their feather-bedding and stand-over tactics I'm not defending Bishop merely pointing out that there have been squillions of dollars removed from workers by some very, very questionable officials. This isn't the only case in fact it's mild compared to what we are finding out has been going on with unions (strongly allied with Labor in fact they control the ALP) for decades. Just don't tell me what to think or write - it's my overall opinion only - to which I am entitled - as are you to yours. One thing I try not to do is personally attack others for writing out their views. I will continue to write my opinion while I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to do so.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    11:26am
    Not Amused, I'm sure your opinion is shared by many others who have not lost the ability for logical analysis of the facts.
    My opinion is that your posts sum up what many of us may be thinking but afraid to say.

    Wstaton, you may have some success with your bully stand over tactics with your husband but they don't work on us.
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    12:32pm
    Fact: Bronwyn Bishop has spent 330,000 in the last 12 months on expenses. That's over $900 per day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. What are the taxpayers getting for that money? She's a shocking Speaker, the worst ever, so doesn't even earn her $300,000+ salary. What a terrible waste of our money, being spent on Bronwyn Bishop.
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:35pm
    Jen: my wife sung out this morning that Bishop had run up a travel bill of over $830 000 for 2014.
    The ATO has what is known as an arm's length transaction rule. For example if a taxpayer has a rental property in another country and goes there to have a look then he may be able to claim this a a tax deduction. But if the taxpayer then spends the next month holidaying in the country and tries to call this a part of the tax deduction then it is not permissible because that part was clearly not anything to do with the rental property.
    I'd like to see the above written into the parliament's legislature to stop the obvious taxpayer funded holidays dressed up as government business. I mena do we not pay the bastards enough already?
    Jen
    20th Jul 2015
    6:27pm
    Yes, Mick, I just read that. How on earth can you spend that much money? Add her salary and she cost us 1,160,000 for the year and for what? Abbott has cut funding for so many groups: mental health, women's refuges etc. and this wanton waster with delusions of grandeur has wasted over a million dollars of workers' hard earned money. She's not even a proper Speaker! We're being taken for fools.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    4:28pm
    I saw my pollie and discussed a few issues with him
    He seems to be of the opinion that, the day after the election, we "Go to the Bank" get a bunch of chequebooks, sign them and "Hand them Over".

    To him, We have given "The Party" a CLEAR MANDATE to do what ever they like for the next term and the only say we should have is at election day.
    WE DID NOT DEPART ON GOOD TERMS THAT DAY, and I promised that we'd meet again!!!
    THE SHEER ARROGANCE!!!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    4:36pm
    Ain't that the truth. I fail to understand that WHAT THEY PROMISED has expired after the election.
    My belief is that a PROMISE is a CONTRACT and is only to be changed in exceptional circumstances. Tony Abbott came into office and broke almost every promise he made AS SOON AS HE WAS ELECTED. If we had a media which was not owned by the rich and was not the mouthpiece of the rich then this would not have been allowed to proceed. IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE!!!
    Oars
    17th Jul 2015
    6:34pm
    Patriot- of what ??? That is the kind of advice the Greeks talk about. Duh ????
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    6:47pm
    Oars
    Don't understand your question!
    Would like to respond but cannot!
    scud
    17th Jul 2015
    4:34pm
    Her annual salary is $341,000 salary. And on top of this for the period 1 July - 31 December 2014 her expenses were $398,563 excluding any office fitouts. She charged taxpayers almost $90,000 for a two-week European trip partly aimed at securing her a new job. Why is the $5000 spent on a helicopter flight getting all the attention?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:45pm
    Tiny tip of the iceberg - we're working our way down one issue at a time...
    Young Simmo
    17th Jul 2015
    4:35pm
    What is the biggest cost in Aust, Pensioners or Politicians ?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:46pm
    per capita? No need for an answer.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:23pm
    Pensioners by a mile especially those who don't need it but collect it all the same.
    jeffr
    18th Jul 2015
    12:16am
    Bonny, this pensioner with perhaps another 10 years to go and a wife with another 20years+ to go need every penny. I want my wife to be comfortable as the alzheimer's takes over. Were not politicians with life long pensions, lurks and perks that astound many of Australian citizens. By the way, I try to vote for the HONEST politician of any persuasion. Trouble is they are all tared with the same brush
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:50am
    Julia Gillard's boyfriend Timmy gets a pension of around $150,000 pa if he outlives her.
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    7:54am
    And how much will Margie Abbott receive if she outlives Tony?
    MICK
    20th Jul 2015
    4:36pm
    A lot more than poor old Frank is allowed to say.
    Mike Omment
    17th Jul 2015
    4:36pm
    Todays B S award goes to Mick for his claim that "Julia Gillard was happy to let Mr Slipper be speaker in the interest of fairness".
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:52am
    yes morbid I noticed that too.
    What do you expect from a retired independent politician.

    17th Jul 2015
    4:40pm
    a pox on both houses - who does Bron Bishop thinks she is - not a PM or Minister and I think only the PM or say the Foreign Affairs Minister if looking after Heads of State should be allowed such luxuries.
    What also annoys me is that Bronnie as speaker is second highest paid politician and because she and Slipper before her and Anna Bourke before that were all elected before the super rules changed for pollies in 2007 she and the others get significantly improved payouts - its so wrong (and I'm a conservative voter). What is also wrong is that apparently its entirely legal under existing rules - Xenophon has said he will try and change them - all credit to him but it will come to a public outcry from us the general public - I've done what I can and written to PM, Treasurer and local member and told them not good enough. And they say we have a budget crisis ( and I believe do on a number of fronts and having managed significant budgets when working and also having degrees in Finance I reckon the budget is something I understand.
    What also angers me is the money we are paying to Public Servants (the standard answer is that we have to pay market rate to attract the best) - garbage - how is this for some examples - Head of ABC got $300k in 2007 not gets in excess of $800k - Head of Defence gets $500k (yet these military folk aren't driven by money - you could pay the Head $300k and you'd still get the best person as Head and they would be just as happy and that is just the tip of the iceberg - I am sure some of you read the papers this week about this bloke the Baird govn hired from Vic govn to head up some dept and incurred over $100k in removal expenses plus other costs - I've read elsewhere that we are the most over governed country of any western democracy - too many politicians, too many public servants - and here in my local area we have a local council moving a motion to approve same sex marriage - apart from the fact its outside their juristiction they should get on fixing curb and guttering and other basic services.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    4:48pm
    I'd willingly head up the Defence Force for $300k or maybe even $250k.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2015
    5:30pm
    Trebor - although i don't know you i bet you would get in and sort out the submarine mess and earn your $250 to $300k and probably force both major parties to develop a long term defence industry policy that creates jobs and hi-tec innovation for the long term benefit of australia
    Dotty
    17th Jul 2015
    4:48pm
    I bet she wont resign as she thinks she is above anything that the ordinary person on the street would be jailed for !!
    She is a greedy selfish self indulgent woman !!
    Dotty
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    6:45pm
    Agree!
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:53pm
    That is already becoming blatantly clear.
    Sen.Cit.90
    17th Jul 2015
    5:07pm
    Perhaps those among us who are dissatisfied with our system of government basically a to party affair. Read this
    http://swiss-government-politics.all-about-switzerland.info/
    Years ago we tried to form a similar government, it was squashed by the big boys.
    I would love to read your pros & cons.
    Sen.Cit.90
    17th Jul 2015
    5:08pm
    Two party affair
    Reeper
    17th Jul 2015
    5:10pm
    Once again, I am typing slowly so all you ALP slaves who can't read fast can catch up. Bishop's use of the system was tacky and as Hockey said inappropriate. But , it was within the guidelines for parliamentarians.
    What should come out of this is not attacking Bishop, but a serious review of the rules for the spending of public monies.
    Slipper was only eventually hit for a small amount, it was a lot more than the money that cost him his role.
    I would suspect an investigation of all politicians use of the public purse will reveal a lot more who spend friviously than Biship. So, everyone get back on their heads, pray Shorten isn't investigated or his mother in law, and move on
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:32pm
    Go back into your dustbin reaper.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    9:43pm
    I think you are wrong there Reeper as the Speaker is employed Under different rules to most other MP'S, THAT IS WHY IF SHE SIGNED THE FORM, KNOWING THAT ATTENDING A PRIVATE FUNCTION WAS NOT PART OF HER OFFICIAL DUTIES, then that could be classed as fraud and as such is an offence, at least that is what I understood from the press conference by Tony Burke today and is the reason it was referred to the Federal Police.
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:56pm
    Good try from another LNP stooge.
    Bishop attempted to pull a swifty. She was caught. And last of all she was NOT ON GOVERNMENT BUSINESS so the expense was not legitimate. End of story.
    Your attempt to turn this into anything other than what it is wrong and the only person I have heard insisting that the dishonest expense was legitimate is Bishop and a few of her supporters.
    Reeper
    17th Jul 2015
    5:10pm
    Once again, I am typing slowly so all you ALP slaves who can't read fast can catch up. Bishop's use of the system was tacky and as Hockey said inappropriate. But , it was within the guidelines for parliamentarians.
    What should come out of this is not attacking Bishop, but a serious review of the rules for the spending of public monies.
    Slipper was only eventually hit for a small amount, it was a lot more than the money that cost him his role.
    I would suspect an investigation of all politicians use of the public purse will reveal a lot more who spend friviously than Biship. So, everyone get back on their heads, pray Shorten isn't investigated or his mother in law, and move on
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    6:45pm
    Reeper
    I think the loss of Career & Reputation was much more costly though.
    BB should also suffer these consequences!
    She can NEVER be trusted again
    MICK
    17th Jul 2015
    9:58pm
    Spot on Patriot.
    geomac
    17th Jul 2015
    11:42pm
    Reeper
    Your logic seems astray. Why would slow typing assist anyone in reading the text ? Something is slow or should I say someone is slow ?
    midnight
    17th Jul 2015
    5:43pm
    Queen Bishop and King Abbot. What a farce... What a disgusting and hypocritical abuse of position, and what a smack in the face for ordinary Australians. Yes, she needs to go.

    17th Jul 2015
    5:55pm
    The Abbott Inquisition will get rid of her for not being sly enough.
    Patriot
    17th Jul 2015
    6:35pm
    jackie,
    The word Inquisition might be quite appropriate as Tony was educated at St. Ignatius Jesuit College, and so it is likely his "Thought Patterns" have been influenced by the Jesuits. It is certain he has been subjected to them!

    It is the Jesuit order which (On-&-Off) ran the European Episcopal Inquisition (about 1180 to at least 1850) in different countries across Europe.
    They "AUSRADIERT" the CATHARS in the Pyrenees of France and many other remnants of the Gnostic faith in many countries.
    The BARRAGE of CRAP & THREATS we have had to content with from Canberra in the past few years could be easily be identified as the "Fore Runner" to a new type of Inquisition.
    TIME will TELL !!!!
    seadog
    17th Jul 2015
    6:09pm
    Maybe we should also look at Senator Polley from Tasmania. Needs to fly to Hobart by private plane instead of using a car . 2 Hour trip but she will not explain why except to say talking to constituants?? Apparently us mere mortals just need to pay up and accept what is said.
    Young Simmo
    17th Jul 2015
    6:16pm
    100% of the commenters in here have misunderstood the entire story.
    Aunty Bronwyn had to use the chopper because, if she went by car it would have taken an hour and she would have missed out on a couple of Sherbets. So get things into perspective please.
    Would you have liked to miss out on a couple of free Jack Daniels.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:37pm
    Not sure how long the chopper part of the trip took Simmo but one has to add the fact that she had to be driven to Essendon to catch it.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:39pm
    Sorry Simmo forgot you live in WA "Essendon Airport" that should have been.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:40pm
    Ho! and that is in the opposite direction to Geelong.
    Young Simmo
    17th Jul 2015
    11:29pm
    Wstaton, I have dragged a caravan around Aus 3 times over the years, but never crossed the VIC border in our rush to get up to Cairns, so now I am completely confused. I will have to go to Google Earth.

    17th Jul 2015
    6:19pm
    I would like to see the rules really tightened up.
    Some would not like to see it though, I bet...from all sides apart from one of the honest (I hope) pollies Nick Xenephon.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/senator-nick-xenophon-wants-crackdown-on-politicians-expenses-20150717-giespo.html

    17th Jul 2015
    6:30pm
    mick, mick you really make me laugh with your comments, if anybody dares to have a thought which differs from mighty mick, he or she has to be a troll or a stooge or an insider of the liberals, all depends on the alias used by mick, jen or misty after all they are the same person.
    but really what took the cake was to ask a person in this comments list to identify herself, you made out she was a staff member of mrs.bishop, how about YOU mick identify yourself e.g. a paid up member of the labor party, still employed by the labor party , etc.
    I agree what mrs.bishop did, re: the helicopter ride from melbourne to geelong could have been better handled and maybe never should have happened, however you are right on one fact you keep on stating, as you call him, the grim reaper, shorty, bill the knive, is still putting his register of interests in order, last week he discovered he forgot that another $200.000== he received for his election expenses were not on his register. also mick I have not heard you complaining about the canberra thug of the cfmeu union,

    a union which put hundreds of thousands of dollars into the labor party, kivalu, being arrested after he allegedly extorted $150000== from the workers, all this came out of your hated royal commission into the unions, also known as the labor party, or them, the cfmeu , having to pay more than $3 million and having to put their membership fees up and you still think the sun shines out of labor's ar..
    Oars
    17th Jul 2015
    6:38pm
    This looks a bit more like reality. Thank you for reminding us all of the massive debt my grandkids will have to pay -no thanks to the last labor rorters cleared out the front pantry. Who would be Mother Hubbard- you seem to think that maybe printing money is the answer- no but the real value of our buck has slipped away and may keep going that way unless the 30% of drips don't start working FOR this nation, instead of trying to sabotague it.
    Wstaton
    17th Jul 2015
    6:50pm
    Let keep this on topic shall we, less of this fluffy stuff that has nothing to do what this article is all about. "Political Rorts" whichever side they come from.
    Misty
    17th Jul 2015
    9:55pm
    Heemskerk99 I am offended by your comments above, I do not know Mick or Jen so be careful what you say or you may find yourself facing a Defamation of Character charge ( Only joking of course ) but I am really annoyed by the assumptions you make,
    please try to act like an adult and be civil at least if you can't be accurate.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    9:26am
    That's right heemsy the unions have put up membership fees to boost their anti Abbott war chest. They are planning something big.
    Finni
    17th Jul 2015
    8:17pm
    They all should have to pay their own first, then claim it back from a govt dept. Maybe treasury, I would be willing to help out and publish the payments
    Snowwhite
    17th Jul 2015
    9:03pm
    Frank you really should get your facts right.
    Again you actually believe what you read in the Murdoch press??? or were you actually present at said little pie lady episode????
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    1:24pm
    Snowwhite see for yourself, its all over youtube. Turn your sound up. Of course Bill didn't know the security cameras were rolling and included audio.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=w56fXnfRRiU

    What I find interesting is Bill Shorten's account of the episode.
    To his credit he phoned the little pie lady and apologised but that was after he himself on the security video. A little like the disclosure of the 2006/2007 bribes from the big end of town which he should not have accepted as a representative of the vulnerable workers.
    Ozetwo
    17th Jul 2015
    9:43pm
    Let's forget about everything. After all, she has paid back $5,000 of the $130,000. What a lot of honest and transparent politicians we have.I am so glad I took the advice of Rupert's media and voted them in. What a lucky country we live in to have such totally honest people who put the voters interests and those of the country first.I think they deserve another pay rise.
    LiveItUp
    17th Jul 2015
    10:26pm
    I agree pollies need to be paid a lot more so we get better people into parliament. I for one wouldn't be a pollie for the pay they get.
    Misty
    18th Jul 2015
    1:33am
    You 2 have got to be joking, this is the best laugh I have had for some time, keep it up please we need some comedy to brighten our day, Ozetwo and Bonny or maybe your comment was tongue in cheek Ozetwo?.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    7:55am
    Ozetwo I think it is a stretch to suggest we pay them more because they got massive rises when Gillard was PM.
    PlanB
    18th Jul 2015
    8:32am
    WHAT!!!!!!!!! they get huge pay and HUGE perks after they leave too --they should be stopped --the perks, I am sure thats why they are in politics as they know nothing about running a country
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    11:22am
    Yes I agree with Bonny they give up Careers Where they could earn more money for public service ..And then of course you have the union hacks ..
    What a wonderful example Ms Bronyn Bishop. To all the whiners and whingers on Here .
    A 72 year old woman still going strong in her career...
    Misty
    18th Jul 2015
    12:05pm
    What a terrible example BB is as a politician, worst Speaker ever and now one of the worst for running up expenses using tax payer's money and I am sick of comments here saying " Well so what?, other pollies have done it, the Unions have done it, WELL REALLY?, in case you haven't caught on yet it is BRONWYN BISHOP WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE NOT ANY BODY ELSE
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    12:26pm
    I read that she's spent $300,000+ in expenses in 12 months. That works out at $822 per day, 7 days a week. How is that even possible? Exactly what is she achieving for the taxpayers for that money? She's a very busy lady, but busy spending our money, obviously. Sack her and get a real Speaker. I just read the amount is actually $330,000.
    Young Simmo
    17th Jul 2015
    11:14pm
    Well, Well, Well, I saw on the news tonight that our Politicians have spent $20 million on travel and phones in 6 months.
    Go figure.
    Young Simmo
    17th Jul 2015
    11:19pm
    Re-subscribe
    Waterbaby
    17th Jul 2015
    11:22pm
    It amazes me that this behaviour is still referred to as a rort and then shrugged off. Lets call it for what it is.
    This is OUR money put there for responsible use. This is THEFT, pure and simple. If anyone else in the public charged up $5000 of their employer's money(we the people being the employer) they would be arrested and charged for embezzlement - pure and simple! She is NOT above the law and the law should be applied in the same manner it is applied to ANY Australian citizen. Not one law for them and one for us.
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    7:43am
    You hit the nail on the head.

    This bunch of pollies think they ARE above the law. Apart from rorts galore, what about the sneaky changes to our Constitution that Murdoch won't report on? What about human rights breaches? Paying people smugglers? Australians seem to think pollies breaking the law is somehow acceptable? It's NOT.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    9:16am
    Trouble is people like you both are only outraged at the waste and wrongdoings of one side of politics. This is why it is simply "shrugged off." What is more wasteful? A $5k, 15min chopper flight, or a $20m donation to Unions to train upcoming Union Leaders?
    How about the $1m wasted on holding a tax forum demanded by independent Rob Oakeshott? Total waste?!
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    9:43am
    Only in your mind Frank. Believe it or not, most people abhor thieves of any persuasion. It's just that at this moment, the Liberal party are killing Australia's society, values, environment, human rights, reputation and thumbing their noses at our constitution and laws. They take away from the vulnerable and prevent people making a complaint, then spend our hard earned dollars on self-indulgence and expect impunity. You're fighting a losing battle, Frank.
    Bigjack
    17th Jul 2015
    11:44pm
    Bishop should resign. She may be playing inside legalities but she has no morals. Her arrogance in asking taxpayers to pay for all her junkets (including her overseas travel to try and win another job is scandalous. Shame Bishop shame. Resign or if you don't Abbott should fire her.
    Bigjack
    17th Jul 2015
    11:44pm
    Bishop should resign. She may be playing inside legalities but she has no morals. Her arrogance in asking taxpayers to pay for all her junkets (including her overseas travel to try and win another job is scandalous. Shame Bishop shame. Resign or if you don't Abbott should fire her.
    Leebee
    18th Jul 2015
    2:49am
    Bonne 'Bishop' that's enough now...you're scaring me!

    18th Jul 2015
    3:02am
    Time this old biddy hit the road, she is disgracefully biased as the speaker and unbelievably greedy
    PlanB
    18th Jul 2015
    8:33am
    AND A BITCH TO BOOT
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    9:48am
    Many here might believe this is the only political forting happening in the LNP. http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/the-smell-of-kerosene.html

    It goes way back. And includes accepting Mafia money for favours. Now, our biggest problem is the fact this government is owned by Coal et al.
    geomac
    18th Jul 2015
    1:08pm
    I was under the mistaken impression that the AFP decided if chopper bishop had a charge to answer but not so.
    " Finance Department bureaucrats will decide whether a police investigation into Bronwyn Bishop's expenses scandal goes ahead.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bronwyn-bishop-expense-scandal-investigation-in-the-hands-of-finance-department-20150718-gif75a.html#ixzz3gCx1Gt5Q

    I doubt we will even get to see the form chopper signed for the charter flight. Let them eat cake is the Abbott response.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    1:32pm
    Ultimately the decision will rest with the PM, just as it did when Julia Gillard needed to make a decision on the future of the behaviour of Peter Slipper.
    geomac
    18th Jul 2015
    2:32pm
    Thats an odd statement Frank. Slipper got charged and was denied the opportunity to pay back 900 dollars. Finance department bureaucrats will decide and not the AFP. Slipper was found not guilty on appeal but was charged. Chopper will get off if your opinion is that it rests on Abbott. The procedure is that the finance department decides but apparently you know better.
    If we take your proposition then PM Gillard allowed the courts to decide. We have a good idea of what Abbott will do don,t we Frank. Thats your own assessment of the situation, the decision wiill rest with the PM.
    Abby
    18th Jul 2015
    1:11pm
    Bronwyn Bishop is 72 years old .....

    so is entitled to the old age pension as well as Parliamentary Superannuation

    She is actually saving us money by being there :)
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    1:29pm
    Yes and I think it was entirely appropriate for the Federal Police to refer the matter back to the independent umpire.
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    2:08pm
    This is all tomorrow's fish wrappers Bill is the gift that keeps giving .
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    2:13pm
    Oh that's hilarious. In the last 12 months, she's cost us $630,000. For what?
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    2:45pm
    Well I would have to analyse her and every members travel . But she not only has to travel back home every week , but also attend other Parliments around the world as our official representative as Speaker . She also attends conferences such as the Common wealth Parlimentary secretariat ..
    I think we are very fortunate to have a 72 year Woman with so much Parlimentary experience .
    On the other hand we have Jackie Lamb who Palmer bought...
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    3:11pm
    Frankly I would be less concern about Ms Bishop hiring a helicopter , than Mr Shortens free use of private jets of the Liebermen and Pratt families , including being flown back at the time of the Tasmanian mines disaster from the U.S.
    Misty
    18th Jul 2015
    3:34pm
    Why would you worry about using a private jet if it is free Pete?, I cannot understand your reasoning here, at least a free jet does not cost the tax payer any money unlike Madam Speaker who seems to think this is all a big joke going on her performance this afternoon with reporters, not a good look is it.
    Misty
    18th Jul 2015
    3:37pm
    Please Pete can you at least get some names right, there is no MP called Jackie Lamb.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    5:08pm
    Misty I'm afraid some people aren't aware that nothing is for free. There is a price to pay for everything and everything has its price. Both parties need to place their own value on so called freebies.
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2015
    10:09pm
    I would think the workers of the Lieberman family would be well aware of the cost to their pockets.
    peterseaford
    18th Jul 2015
    2:40pm
    Funny she could repay hers but poor old Peter Slipper was not allowed to pay back his taxi fare
    Abby
    18th Jul 2015
    6:37pm
    Bishop used her entitlement within her duties ... in actual terms did not have to pay the money back.

    Slipper used it to get his grog supply.
    Jen
    18th Jul 2015
    7:15pm
    The taxpayers are paying her to be an impartial Speaker. Not a fundraiser for the LNP. And if in fact she wasn't fundraising at the fundraiser, then she was there socially. Either way, she stole from taxpayers. She's also stealing her salary since she's not an impartial Speaker. The people have an awful lot to put up with at the present time. But not for long.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2015
    8:48pm
    Jen do you know what Bishop was doing in Melbourne? Maybe it is within her rights for taxpayer transport to and from her speaker duties? Get the facts before champing at the bit to crucify a decent person.
    geomac
    18th Jul 2015
    10:15pm
    Frank
    She used the to chopper to attend a fund raiser, plain and simple. There is no maybe to consider.
    Misty
    19th Jul 2015
    1:01am
    Yes and how funny it is that the transcript of Tony Abbott demanding Peter slipper's resignation has been deleted from their website, doesn't matter though it has been replayed so many times now that people won't forget.
    Abby
    19th Jul 2015
    6:06am
    Jen
    The Taxpayers are paying for a reality TV Show called Parliament Question Time .... it is a joke about one upmanship and prepared questions and answers

    Next time you watch it if you can get bothered ... watch them reading it !!!
    Adrianus
    19th Jul 2015
    8:10am
    Jen as Bronny Bishop said..."The booking was just made in the ordinary way, there's been a political beat up and I'm very sorry it has taken the heat off Mr Shorten and his triple whammy Carbon Tax bill,"
    Jen
    19th Jul 2015
    11:11am
    Except it's not a beat up in the eyes of the people Frank. We care not about HOW the booking was made. And that comment just proves the point made many times, that she's absolutely NOT impartial. So your point is?
    Misty
    19th Jul 2015
    12:09pm
    Frank I wonder was this a weekend, did she book the helicopter herself?, do her staff work weekends?, did they know in advancee she would be short of time, snowed in etc or did Bronny book this off her own bat I wonder.
    Adrianus
    19th Jul 2015
    12:31pm
    Apparently Bishop flew from QLD to Melbourne. I know the PM's office works 24/7, so I would imagine Bishop's staff would at least be on call. Anyway it's not acceptable and as time goes by waiting for an explanation I am running out of tolerance on the issue of waste by governments.
    Bigjack
    18th Jul 2015
    6:43pm
    Bishop, just go. Slipper had to go so you go too. You are an empty vessel rorting the taxpayers. Abbot fire her.
    Dollars over Respect?
    18th Jul 2015
    10:27pm
    A certain Beehive Bearing self-important politician has a long history of overbearing arrogance and and has publicly demonstrated this over many years. An extremely inflated sense of high-rank and position has seen her refuse to turn off her telephone on commercial flights, her insistence for government drivers to be available and waiting at all hours at airports and other pick-up points (on one reported occasion claiming she forgot that she had ordered a driver because she decided instead to take a taxi home and not wait for it)! Her 'independent' position in Parliament as Speaker has been abused from the beginning (a total dishonourable 'joke' being played out on all of us) . A history of many similar incidents demonstrates a belief that this Beehive Bearer is 'special', so this latest 'lack of judgement' claim doesn't wash as an acceptable excuse. She was caught with her hand in the cookie jar, so had no option but to pay back these misused funds - it is certainly appropriate for this BB head to roll (?). Why should the taxpayer pay for her to speak at a 'Liberal fundraising event' on how Parliament works and for it to be accepted as a legitimate expense - it's plainly not? What is now justified is that her entire expense accounts should be given a thorough examination to detect other 'errors of judgement' - wonder what else can be discovered? This sort of behaviour, if not stopped as soon as it becomes known, obviously leads to public distrust (and ultimately corruption if not audited, then, shown to have been corrected). People given the power to spend our taxpayers money must always act with utmost integrity and be above reproach.
    student
    19th Jul 2015
    10:25am
    If the travel by helicopter to a party fund raising event was within the rules, I wonder how many other pollies have claimed said allowance?? I have to agree with you $'s. The other female who represented Australia as Ambassador to Italy also had a liking for a lavish lifestyle both here and there, and granting visas to convicted criminals to come to Australia. I doubt these politicians will ever be worth the value they put on themselves.
    student
    19th Jul 2015
    9:53am
    the politicians make the rules/laws, so naturally they are going to make them to favour themselves. ALL the pigs are feeding from the same trough, ..... the trough that is funded by you and I. They make the rorts so they can use the rorts.
    Jen
    19th Jul 2015
    11:16am
    The woman's insufferable: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/bronwyn-bishop-digs-a-deeper-hole-for-herself-over-fundraiser-helicopter-flight-20150718-gifc1a?stb=fb

    "when she did stump up the cash, she released a two paragraph statement claiming she had done nothing wrong. It was an act performed under sufferance.

    On Saturday, she not only stuck by that view, but said she would keep using taxpayers' money to attend party fundraisers, something that is clearly unacceptable, regardless of whether it is within some nebulous guidelines or not.

    And as for the sniff test, Bishop could not disagree more."
    Renny
    19th Jul 2015
    11:35am
    It's fraud. I've read the rules and there is no ambiguity. Travel needs to be for Parliamentary purposes (eg meetings or meetings of Parliamentary party), or for electorate purposes. This was clearly not either of those things. It is criminal and she should be charged - as should any MP rorting the system. They are putting out this 'confusion' about the rules to stop people questioning them. I don't care which side they belong to. I'm sick of being treated like a fool by them.
    Jen
    19th Jul 2015
    11:47am
    The integrity of the AFP has been compromised. Is there nothing sacred in Australia any more, under this government? They investigated Slipper but no, not Bronny. The case has been passed to the Finance Department under the investigation of Jane Haldon, a friend and confidante of PM Tony Abbott. I've just seen photos of Jane Haldon laughing with a bunch of LNP front benchers at a LNP fundraiser. (Fundraisers seem to take up much of the LNP time. No wonder Bronny calls fundraising for the LNP "work." Errr...in her role of independent Speaker.) So Bronny's being investigated by a mate. Wonder how much that will cost the taxpayers.
    Fred
    19th Jul 2015
    5:28pm
    It's time we had a royal commission into politicians perks. This is just one more example.
    That other silly woman is travelling around the Med indulging her obsession with refugees at our expense. Who the hell authorises these people's expenses. They are supposed to represent us and our problems not swan around the world for their own gratification.
    geomac
    19th Jul 2015
    6:18pm
    October 13, 2013:

    Mr Slipper tells Insiders he wrote to the Department of Finance on four occasions asking for the matter to be dealt with administratively "but they used the excuse that, because it had been referred directly to the AFP, they could not become involved".

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-18/bishop-getting-different-treatment-to-slipper-labor-mp-says/6630658

    Chopper Bishop must be charged or not only are the rules a sham but the Finance department is partisan in its decisions. That the trip was outside the rules is beyond doubt.
    Adrianus
    19th Jul 2015
    8:54pm
    Why was Labor slow to report the matter to the AFP? Further evidence that Labor just want to make some political ground on the issue.
    We need a better party in opposition.
    geomac
    19th Jul 2015
    9:28pm
    In what way slow Frank ? It was only revealed in the last week or so. The finance department only reveals the expenses every six months. It takes even longer to get party donation details well after the election.
    So in what way slow Frank ?
    Adrianus
    19th Jul 2015
    9:33pm
    They should have referred the matter to the AFP before Bishop reimbursed the expenditure from her pocket.
    Maybe they wanted this issue to last because they have nothing else. No policies. Nothing.
    geomac
    20th Jul 2015
    12:47am
    Frank you cannot be serious. Its been exposed this week and you reckon it would make a difference if she paid or not and how do you know she has paid it back ? I have read she will pay it back but it makes no difference to the offence or it being followed up by the AFP. If the AFP does not charge her then a double standard is in force. Then we have the finance department and the AFP as political stooges who are right wing. It is impossible for any other conclusion. 5 grand versus 900 bucks plus Bishop has said she didn,t even check the paperwork. Excuse me ? Thats another one to add to the list.
    Your grasping at straws Frank.
    Adrianus
    20th Jul 2015
    9:41pm
    Labor has known about this helicopter flight for 6 months. geo, you and many others have fallen for the Labor political machine. Like I said, that's all they have to deflect the heat from Shorten.
    student
    21st Jul 2015
    12:34pm
    we have to sign our tax returns (even if done by a professional) to say all is right and above board. I find M/s. Bishop's excuse she didn't check her return for payment of travel expenses disgusting. Is she trying to blame her staff for her neglect of duty?? I wonder how many of her staff are eating out of the proverbial trough too?? I am just so sick of politicians and the way they think they are entitled to anything they want.

    19th Jul 2015
    7:46pm
    amazingly mick the labor man persona, did not answer my questions in regard of him being a paid up labor member, a union representative, or about his aliases, e.g jen, misty and of lately the return of jensievers, after all they use the same words, such as trolls, members of the liberals, insiders, avartar's, what ever that word means, sounds indian to me, must be some sort of curry, I left school when I was 15 to do an apprenticeship in the building industry I worked my guts out, used to get up at 5.o'clock in the morning to make sure my employees would have a great start to the day, the coffee and or tea be ready, or some who might not have had breakfast, there was always bacon and egg's sandwiches ready for them and I was lucky if I get home at seven or eight o'clock that night to look at more work and priceing jobs to keep my workforce employed, mick tell us what was your hardest day in your working life, apart of holding your hand out for your salary, to call it wages would be a insult to your mentality and probable walking over the workers backs. you now say that I am not entitled to a decent retirement, I did not drink or gamble like you and your mates, I still cannot afford world tours like you, I also am not jealous of people better off than me.
    maybe mick has gone on another worldtrip, probable paid for by the labor party or his union.
    he can't be to bad off if he can afford those trips, however my suggesting to him is to see a psychiatrist to help him to get over his phobia of rich people and using other peoples names to get his message across
    geomac
    20th Jul 2015
    12:49am
    Heems
    Do you ever address the topic ?
    Adrianus
    20th Jul 2015
    8:27am
    heemsy, I fully understand your message. First to arrive on the job, last to punch off. Doing everything within your power to inspire and promote teamwork. Doing whatever you can to make the on job experience as pleasant as possible. I understand because I did the same thing. Advancing wages to cover car expenses etc. You would have made sure to put away some retirement savings for your workers to go with the bacon and eggs, as well as solving a myriad of other problems they may have had.
    Problem is though, if you were a sole trader you would have put yourself last on the list for any benefits. And we all know the result.
    There are free loaders on the government teet and it's time it stopped.
    It would be most annoying when you feel like you're the only one putting in. I can assure you there are many decent people doing it tough out there in the same manner.
    Misty
    20th Jul 2015
    12:01pm
    Heemskerk99 sounds to me like you are extremely jealous and bitter person, so what if you started working at 15, look at all the Framer's children, they work from practically when they start to walk and you don't hear them complaining do you. I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF TELLING YOU I AM NOT MICK OR JEN SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DOING SO, is it so unbelievable to think that other people can have a different opinion to your narrow minded one?, and also that other people can have similar opinions and be different people?, apparently so in your little one eyed world.
    Abby
    19th Jul 2015
    9:08pm
    The politicians are living off us like they are royalty, Tony Abbott goes on fun runs, Julia Gillard went to a wedding at the Taxpayer expense ..... Sarah Hanson Young from the Greens had a holiday paid in Italy.... assisting the people smugglers in the Mediteraneanand so it goes on and on.

    So you think vote Independent ? .. What about Nick Xenophon decided to go overseas and interfere in the political arrangement of another country and that resulted in his being barred from entering that country.

    It is not just the Feds that are on the gravy train, the state and council also avail themselves to these perks ...Greg Combet spending $ 72,000 to take his girlfriend, first class , to Europe before Labor lost the last election.

    Under Gillard's reign they arranged over 30% increase in their salaries ... The Politicians have set themselves up a very cosy arrangement - much like their superannuation and other perks courtesy of the taxpayers of Australia.

    It is the 20th century and with the technology available there is no need for them to traipsing around the world.
    Misty
    20th Jul 2015
    11:53am
    Abby Nick Xenophon stated on TV that he paid for his trip to Japan out of his own money, was that the trip you mean or are you referring to another one?.
    Abby
    20th Jul 2015
    12:52pm
    It was about attending an illegal rally in Malaysia

    As I say if these Politicians want to go and save the world that is OK but should do it out of their own pocket and NOT the taxpayers.
    Not Senile Yet!
    20th Jul 2015
    2:19am
    Human Beings become corrupt when they believe that they are entitled to what they are not!!!!
    ALL Humans.....be they Left Wing or Right Wing!!!!
    The problem here is that the Corrupt Humans Make their own Rules!!!
    The Control of ALL Mp's Expenses and the rules applied need to be removed from Parliamentary Influence Immediately!!!
    BOTH Parties and their Members have been abusing the system for the Past 20years or more by interfering with the rules and who checks on who......time to address it.....time to make them ALL accountable for every cent!!!!
    Not a good look is it.....attacking Pensioners and Disabled by labelling them Welfare Bludgers.....whilst stealing from the Cookie Jar????
    She should not resign.....she should be sacked.....not by the PM either!!!
    The Federal Police should investigate her for Fraud.....based on fraudulent claim for Expenses that were not legitimate!!!!
    As should all Mp's who choose to defraud the Public Purse!!!!
    This one rule for US and another for THEM has to stop!!!
    As for the Lefties & Right Whingers on here.......Thieves or Fraudsters.....do not get the option to return the money unless they Plead Guilty......even then they do escape Prosecution!!!
    Not Senile Yet!
    20th Jul 2015
    2:23am
    By the Way Leon......wrong title for the Article!!!
    It was not Misused Funds.......it was a Fraud!!!!
    A Fraudulent Misuse of Taxpayer's Money....nothing Less
    Get it right......or are you scared of the protected species called MP's as well???
    Adrianus
    20th Jul 2015
    7:50am
    Leon simply wants to be as accurate as possible. We should put some pressure on the Politicians to lead by example when they talk of stopping waste of tax payer funds.

    20th Jul 2015
    11:38am
    The SPENDER of the House should resign and Abbott, if he had a spine, should give her the chop.
    Kaz
    20th Jul 2015
    12:26pm
    Stop the union bashing, like everything else, there is good and bad.
    Stop bashing each other and keep to the topic.
    Some people eventually believe they are the elite and should be privileged - Bishop is a prime example and truly cannot comprehend what the fuss is all about.
    Tony Abbott also cannot see - this is frustrating to us because we can see why it is unethical.
    Misty
    20th Jul 2015
    6:53pm
    Totally agree with everything you have said Kaz.
    Old Silver Fox
    20th Jul 2015
    12:32pm
    Think about this also .... not only has she spent more on these rorts than most people have to live on .... they are calling for an increase in the GST which would be unnecessary if they banned pollies travel and other perks.
    Dollars over Respect?
    20th Jul 2015
    2:38pm
    Dougie (your comment of 17th Jul 2015. 11:51am makes perfect sense. Surely there is some finance department currently charged with this sort of check? If not, let's hope, through public pressure, we can cause this desperately needed independent review system to be set up. We must abolish unclear guidelines, which allows for rorting and other opportunities for the pocketing and the misuse of 'our money' - it's constantly proven over and over to be possible under the existing inadequate 'rules'. A truly 'independent' review and control system is essential because politicians (of any persuasion) cannot be entrusted to put such critical controls in place because they stand to lose out big. We need their perks to be abolished after their resignation from public service (no business would/could support this so why should we) and their superannuation agreements should also be in line and comparable with those available to the general workforce. They have the privilege of 'serving' in an egalitarian society and those who believe they are 'special' need to be reminded of this.
    A. N. Onymous
    20th Jul 2015
    4:17pm
    Apologies if this has been mentioned by someone else, as I have not read all of the comments here.

    If anyone is interested:

    https://www.change.org/p/federal-government-remove-bronwyn-bishop-from-her-position-as-speaker-of-the-house-of-representatives/

    Currently at 44,871 signatures. Over 200 signatures added in the last fifteen minutes.

    I do not sign or follow all of the change.org petitions that are referred to me. Of the ones I have signed and/or followed, this has definitely been the fastest in terms of signatures being added.
    A. N. Onymous
    20th Jul 2015
    4:28pm
    Apologies if this has been mentioned by someone else, as I have not read all of the comments here.

    If anyone is interested:

    https://www.change.org/p/federal-government-remove-bronwyn-bishop-from-her-position-as-speaker-of-the-house-of-representatives/
    Misty
    20th Jul 2015
    6:51pm
    Yes, I have signed it already yesterday.
    D'Arcy
    20th Jul 2015
    4:29pm
    The Speaker is not a god who is beyond the law. Peter Slipper discovered what happens when you are found guilty of stealing and so should Bronwyn Bishop. A police investigation to identify whether or not any wrong-doing is involved.
    Magooleigh
    20th Jul 2015
    5:13pm
    Total misuse of Public money and blatant double standards - Peter Slipper also wished to pay back his mere $950 but was refused this outlet and then hounded. "What is good for this goose is good for the gander." (Not however if they are mates of Tony Abbott)
    Chris B T
    21st Jul 2015
    10:46am
    Funny thing about snouts in troughs when you look from the outside, both sides of the trough all you see is Arxxholes. The little space at the ends is the same.
    Jon S
    21st Jul 2015
    2:29pm
    When I was an employee of the Australian Department of Defence, if I had used my Government credit card for this purpose I would be under warning for dismissal. I would have to write a paper "..... showing reasons for continued employment." Any second violation and I would have been dismissed.
    Oars
    21st Jul 2015
    5:11pm
    This is a pitense compared with the TAX PAYERS MONEY we pay for all the ex-ploticians. All these "has-beens" are paid a huge pension ( $18K/yerar ,plus allowances for an offiuce and travel with their family. These allowances have nothing to do with advancing thius country, so they too should be fined and stripped of these privelleges???

    Facts all of this. Please tell me what I missed out. Oh yes- the Government car to take themselves to the airport on a tax payer's money./
    Oars
    21st Jul 2015
    5:12pm
    Correction; These retirees/reatards ( and there hundreds of them still bludging- are paid an average of $180, 000.00 per year plus the rest of lurks.
    Geminiwoman
    22nd Jul 2015
    11:24am
    I wonder if all politicians paid back money that was unneccessarily spent, we'd probably have enough money to run the country for years. They keep telling us that we have to "tighten our belts", pensioners have to go without, yet they spend taxpayers money like there's no tomorrow. Note I say TAXPAYERS money, not government money. After all, the money belongs to the Australian people, NOT the government.
    Jen
    22nd Jul 2015
    12:12pm
    Geminiwoman. They don't seem to realise that every $1 they spend, a worker has had to WORK for it. They throw it around like confetti.

    However, I think it'd take more than removing politician's greed to keep the country running - corporations and miners would need to lose their taxpayer funded welfare.
    Geminiwoman
    22nd Jul 2015
    11:37am
    For "donkey's years" now I have been saying that it should be mandatory for governments to publish "profit and loss" accounts showing the Australian people EXACTLY where the money goes. Perhaps that is something we should all be trying to implement, after all, most businesses have to produce these to the government, why should the government not have to show the owners of the money where it's going.

    22nd Jul 2015
    5:18pm
    Mrs Bishop has no understanding of what it is like to be a battler ripping of the tax payer she thinks is her right.
    She should be sacked .
    Not Senile Yet!
    24th Jul 2015
    11:21pm
    The biggest welfare cheats are our Mp's and ALL of them deserve to be thoroughly audited by an Independent Board who do not answer to either side of the Political Parties!!!
    Those found in breach of the Claim Rules.....thus committing FRAUD....which is a fancy name for stealing under false pretences....should be made pay all of it back and DISMISSED from their Office as MP's.....regardless of Party!!!!
    At a time when they are labelling Welfare Dependants as Fraudsters and cheats for Claiming what they are not entitled to.....you would think that they would not do the same with their expense accounts wouldn't you????
    What is the difference here????
    There is no Difference.....an act of Fraud is an act of Fraud....their penalty should be the same as anyone else......go to court and face the Judge with a please explain.
    Making a mistake or bad judgement also applies to the everyday robber or thief......being an Mp does not exempt you from Punishment!!!!
    As for those who say once it is paid back all is forgiven......a lot of people that are in jail would welcome that opportunity!!!!!
    This is one rule for everyone and another for MP's.......and it is WRONG!!!!
    professori_au
    14th Aug 2015
    7:34pm
    Fact: Bishop has been in politics for many years and would be fully aware how to use the system so cannot claim she id not know. it would be interesting to know just how much the system has been rorted by her and other politicians. Time for a clear up and a clean out!
    Fact: Fundraising is an organisations issue and not the taxpayers problem.
    Fact: political parties are not recognised in the Commonwealth Constitution
    Fact: They are elected as a result of a flawed and corrupt electoral system designed to allow political parties to select their own candidates
    Fact: The preferential voting system is corrupt as it allows the political factions to influence the voting even more.
    Fact: when you seek funding support from a political party you also give your allegiance to them.
    Fact: When elected you are elected to carry out the will of the people, not some foreign power or political party.
    Fact: Once elected by their constituents they will not discuss matters that involve nearby constituencies, claiming it is a curtesy not to do so. Rubbish! when you are in parliament you vote with the party on matters that affect every person regardless of where they are.
    Fact: If you were really working for your constituents you would also work with each other, getting feedback and information from the public to ensure an informed decision.
    Fact: Under the commonwealth constitution 1900-1901, the people are the highest authority, i.e. the government and the parliament is its servant.
    Fact: do I need to go on. Let's elect independents accountable to their constituents and bring in a law that if they fail their constituents they can be dismissed without waiting for an other election


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