Cost of imports to skyrocket

The Government plans to increase the GST on imported products purchased online.

Cost of imports to skyrocket

In a bid to level the playing field between digital and bricks-and-mortar sales, the Government is planning to increase the GST on imported products such as those purchased online.

Federal Treasurer Joe Hockey hinted last week that he had "found a way to ensure that those providing goods from overseas into Australia do not get any advantage out of the tax-free threshold”. He is now reportedly pushing a plan to reduce the GST-free low value threshold (LVT) on goods bought online from $1000 to $20.

The new rule would be applied from July 2017 should his proposal be approved by state treasurers at a Treasurers’ meeting next month.

Australians spent $17.1 billion online in the last year. Around $4 billion of this went to overseas online megastores such as Amazon, with none going back into the Australian economy.

A similar idea has been floated in the past, but analysis showed that the cost of administering such a scheme would far outweigh the potential gains. It was estimated that lowering the threshold to $20 would bring in $550 million but cost $2 billion to process.

The Government’s proposal is another show of support for small business, which struggles to compete with online retailers.

“We’ve now found a way to ensure that those providing goods from overseas, into Australia, do not get any advantage out of the tax free threshold,’’ said Mr Hockey. “This is hugely important for small business.”

The Treasurer and his assistant will propose the Government’s plan to state treasurers on 21 August.

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Opinion: Who foots the bill?

This move may level the playing field between small business and online retailers, but at what cost to the Australian consumer?

Lowering the GST-free threshold, or low value threshold (LVT), on imported goods will remove one more way in which consumers can potentially get ahead of the high prices we already pay for goods in this country.

How much more will we pay for imported goods? Consumer advocate CHOICE estimates that Australian consumers could pay mark ups in the vicinity of 256 per cent on goods under $100 by the time they pay the proposed GST and processing fees.

There are arguments that Britain, Canada and the US all have GST applied to goods valued at less than $1000 (Canada C$20, Britain £15 and the US applies tax to all imported goods). But there is also evidence that Australians buy online for the wider range of products available to them, as well as to lower costs.

Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg may argue that the current threshold is "fundamentally unfair", but the countries he’s measuring against have much larger populations and a wider range of choice, so this proposal will not only increase the cost of goods, but also further reduce the buying options available to Australian consumers. It is likely that it will make online shopping no longer an option for most of us.

By reducing the LVT, it is more likely that consumers will foot the bill in the long run, making our country, which is already one of the most expensive places in the world to live even costlier. And it’s another example of a Government trying to stick it to the little guy.

Even the Productivity Commission agrees that the cost of processing such a tax would be high – potentially higher than the perceived gains. Mr Hockey believes that advances in technology will make this process less expensive, but where are the figures to back up his statement?

It’s not that this tax should be ruled out completely, but lowering the threshold from $1000 to $20 will not only increase the cost of living for many Australians, it will also eliminate any leverage consumers have in keeping local business pricing competitive and fair.

Small business may be better off for Mr Hockey lowering the GST-free threshold, but it’s we, the consumer, who’ll foot the bill, and whose bottom line will be most affected.

What do you think? Do you shop online? Would you be happy paying more for imported goods? Will this proposed tax increase your cost of living? Do you think there’s a better way for the Government to boost our economy that doesn’t come at such a high cost to the consumer?





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    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:16am
    Joe is obviously not a very good "money Manager!
    Winning the "Court Case" and having to pay an estimated $500,000.00 costs is "Not Very Smart". Same with the GST on Imported goods.
    Lowering the threshold to $20.00 is just rediculous and only will benefit Wealthy retail Stores like Uncle Harvey and the likes.
    People on low incomes will have to pay a lot more for their goods as they will be "Marked Up" drastically. Also the "Cost of Processing" will have to be met "Directly or via Increased Taxes".

    NOW, if we were to implement "Trade Barriers" and start manufacturing these goods in Australia again, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CASE all together.
    We would employ more people and - as a consequence - our taxes could reduce as fewer people would be "Out of Work" and there would be "More Taxpayers".
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:58pm
    And it will be a Pleasure to get a Nut and Bolt (Made In Australia) that doesn't Snap in half ! <(Made in Somewhere ?) :-)
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:07pm
    I certainly agree with your sentiments Patriot. Australia has been sold down the river by both sides of politics for too long. Whilst Trade Barriers may horrify many the reality is that we need to make our own OR GO BROKE eventually. Given that we are borrowing year in and year out whilst many Australians are out of work the picture should be getting clearer to those who subscribe to economic rationalism. Of course the sting in the tail is higher prices for locally manufactured goods. A small price to pay for sustaining the nation I would think.
    The best way to add the GST to goods imported from overseas is to put this on the banks and card companies......ALL TRANSACTIONS TO INCLUDE GST. So what compliance costs are we talking about?????
    Theo1943
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:35pm
    Mick, I don't understand the compliance problem either. I used to buy ebooks from Sony. The only way you can do this is to have US address, so I picked an address in Denver, Colorado. Because I "live" in Colorado I had to pay State taxes there on all my ebook purchases of 6 or 7%. This was automatically added to my purchase cost and, presumably, remitted to the Colorado Tax collectors. In most cases the tax was less than 25 cents. This did not appear to be a problem for anybody, including me.The tax was calculated based on my Denver postcode/zipcode. It's obviously just a but of software that needs to be configured. Now if they wanted me to work out the tax and send it to the ATO, that would never work and would be a waste of time to suggest. My ebooks still worked out to be less than half the price of buying in Oz and a lot of the books were simply not available here because of trade/industry deals or embargoes.
    KSS
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:52pm
    Yes Theo1943, geo-pricing is part of the problem - especially for digital goods that cost no more to sell here than elsewhere, your e-books for example but also downloadable software, music, films etc etc
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:13pm
    Theo: all payments go through BANK ACCOUNTS. Credit cards too. Its simple: set the rules with these companies so that if they do not charge the GST and forward it to the government at the time of processing then their right to trade in Australia would be stopped. Could even do a deal with Paypal as the only (potential) middle man. I really cannot understand how this can be a problem for our government.........unless it has deals in place and does not want this to happen.

    Hey Theo.....I hope you waxed the sticks after you read the book.
    buby
    30th Jul 2015
    9:58am
    You are so right there Patriot, but NO that would be easy!!!!?
    Jen
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:17am
    It's not just the cost to the consumer, it's the cost to the small business owner as well. In Australia there are thousands of work at home businesses, many of them run by stay at home Mums. Some are websites, some are facebook businesses. I have a website and I know that my business will not survive another 15% impost on top of the 30% exchange rate difference, on goods purchased from around the world, in US$. What I bought 2 years ago was 30% cheaper than I'm paying now. Another 15% plus the added book work, and my 5 year old business will close down. I've been hoping to sell within 2 years, in order to retire but it will be worthless. But I doubt Joe will give us a thought.
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:29am
    Jen,
    So right!
    Yet another "FACADE" of the GEM The Current "Mob of Bullies" in Canberra is hatching out in order to convert the middle class & lower into serfdom.
    These ELITE (supporters) are going to find it "Very lonely" at the top!
    Theo1943
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:48pm
    Jen, please explain further. If you have any kind of computer accounting/invoicing system GST is automatically done for you. If you are charged GST when you buy from your supplier, you claim that back from the ATO when you sell the product. You pay the ATO the difference between the GST you pay and the GST you charge. If you are not registered for GST your turnover needs to be less than $75,000 per annum, and you can't claim back the GST you paid. However, you also don't charge GST to your customers. $75,000 turnover does not get you a lot of money in profit.
    http://www.business.gov.au/registration-and-licences/Pages/register-for-goods-and-services-tax-(GST).aspx
    If you're not registered for GST in your business, you have no compliance costs.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:14pm
    Well all be REWWNED ! :-(
    Gerg
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:33am
    Comparing USA and UK imported goods regime is somewhat tenuous. They both have very close neighbours so that process helps to deter people brining goods back from short trips tax free, almost like going shopping just across the border. Imposing a GST on imports to Au will not only cost the country the excess cost of collection it will not impede online overseas purchases because the price differential will still favour overseas good in most cases.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:16pm
    Why not collect the tax FOR AUSTRALIA and at the same time help out own businesses. Sounds like a no brainer to me.
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:41am
    Good idea as it will give Australian stores a level playing field. I don't buy anything for overseas as I like to support our own businesses.
    Jen
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:46am
    So do I, but Australia has almost nothing in the way of manufacturing, so almost everything needs to be brought into Australia, paid for in US$.
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:47am
    Bonny,
    Like the retail Stores who import the goods from China and make a HUGE Mark-Up???
    This - once again - supports the filthy rich and employs only a few people.
    This whilst if Hurts So Many !!!
    Trade barriers & Start Manufacturing in Aust would be a lot more beneficial and then the increased costs would be absorbed in the Fewer Taxes/Community Support etc.
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:03am
    If you don't like huge markups then simply don't buy the product or wait for it to be on special. I do.

    If everyone paid a bit more then manufacturing will become profitable in Australia. America is changing back so I can't see why we can't too.

    If someone takes a chance with a business and employs people then if they are successful they deserve a decent return for their efforts. I have no problem with the Gerry Harvey's of this world myself.
    Jen
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:36am
    Oh I bet you don't, Bonny!
    Anonymous
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:40am
    Bonny do the businesses you support sell Australian products or Chinese products?
    I am sick of Australian shops selling Chinese produce at prices that could have covered Australian made goods. They wont support Australian industry because the profits from Chinese goods are six more than from Australian goods. We need to support Australian manufacture, that is what creates jobs.
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:47am
    jackie
    Indeed, we're paying the prices "AS IF" they were manufactured here whilst we really are ONLY supporting the trader with HUGE profits.
    TRADE BARRIERS properly imposed would FIX ALL!!!
    Anonymous
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:09pm
    The retailers I talk to who complain about people buying online also complain about paying wages to Australians. They want to sell at prices that compete with China, but they want to do it by forcing Australians to work for nothing. Some even come right out and say our manufacturing workers should be sleeping in boxes and living on rice, like in Asia, so that we can compete. I don't want to support businesses operated by people who think that way. Yes, we need trade barriers, but clearly extending the GST will cost more than it raises and create an administrative nightmare, as well as hurting importing businesses. Just another example of the LNP's poor economic management.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:04pm
    Can you can get a Sleeping Box and Bowl of Rice on line ?
    Frankly
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:00pm
    manufacturing here in Australia is out of the question. Our population is too small and costs of shipping too high and wages are too high. We are stuck in the resource based economy, that's what we are good at. Although we do have untapped potential in IT, high tech, alternative energies especially solar, etc. We need to focus on what we are good at and increasing our income so we can pay for the high cost of living here.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:26pm
    What Rot ! We had it all here once with half the Population ! We could make and buy anything from a Tooth Pick to a Helicopter ! And weren't the World Champion Whingers like now !! Tell Tones about Your New Found High Tech Solar Etc. ! He might be interested in that ! :-) What are we good at now ? Importing Leeches ? :-(
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:42pm
    particolor
    Settle down now otherwise we'll have to order some "Statins" for you Blood pressure!!!!
    ALL Agreed with though!
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    6:00pm
    I have to agree with Franky.
    When the unions demanded Sydney rock oysters for workers on building sites I knew we were bound for problems. Because that was just for morning tea.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:06pm
    I haven't taken as much as an Aspirin in 15 Years ! Nor been to the Doctor in that time either !! :-) The Poor Buggers must be suffering ? :-( Get the Doctor a Doctor !:-)
    Frank.. Did they get some Stout to wash them down with ? :-)
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:20pm
    At it again Frank.
    I agree with paticolor. Australia used to make almost everything but wanted cheaper goods. Now our jobs are all but gone and as normal when the competition goes prices go up. How dumb and greedy we all are to want exactly what is bad for the country and good for US. Now our grandchildren will be the ones to pay the price.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:26pm
    ERM !! It wasn't The People that made it disappear ! It was Successive Governments Crawling up To Overseas Whatevers ! And now we are suffering for it ! :-(
    Patriot
    24th Jul 2015
    7:47am
    particolor
    Although I - generally - agree with you.
    IT WAS US who did NOT apply adequate DILLIGENCE principles to "Keep the BAST***s Honest" that allowed them to "Get Away With It".
    It happened on OUR WATCH!!!

    23rd Jul 2015
    10:47am
    Sounds a reasonable idea to me at least some small businesses in Australia that pay rents and other overheads etc. may be able to compete. These online businesses really stick it to them at the moment.

    It may also help to employ more Australian people which can"t be a bad thing and perhaps another way not to impose more taxes on other Australians.
    Jen
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:34am
    I doubt it. But an awful lot will lose their livelihoods.

    23rd Jul 2015
    10:47am
    Sounds a reasonable idea to me at least some small businesses in Australia that pay rents and other overheads etc. may be able to compete. These online businesses really stick it to them at the moment.

    It may also help to employ more Australian people which can"t be a bad thing and perhaps another way not to impose more taxes on other Australians.
    Jen
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:35am
    robbo, it's small businesses that will be put out of business.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:33pm
    If you don't think that we are all connected in this then you are not thinking correctly. If a local business goes broke then the salespeople lose their jobs. Also, these businesses buy goods and services domestically so these businesses suffer as a result. And so on.
    I may be a bit tough on the rich who avoid their responsibilities but I do recognise that we are all in a symbiotic arrangement.
    We need to stop overseas predators and multinationals from ripping the heart out of the country.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:43pm
    Its gone too far now ! and cant be repaired ? We need Mandrake the Magician not Hokey the Doozle !! :-)
    Ming
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:48am
    Not before time
    Hasbeen
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:50am
    They must be Greek!

    People on here mostly want more & more services, & they want them for free. Services cost money, particularly when provided by slow working public servants. If people want more money spent on them, someone has to pay. It appears that like the Greeks, older Ozzies want someone else, anyone else, to pay.

    It comes down to more or higher taxes, or collecting the taxes some are dodging. Importing stuff direct from overseas currently allows some to avoid paying the tax everyone else pays, the tax that pays for pensions, health care, schools, & everything else we want.

    Apparently the government should clamp down on the rorts of others, but leave their little con alone.

    Have you heard anything more selfish or more Greek than that recently?
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:34pm
    The Greeks had 2000 years to get ready for the Olympics and still they were 4 years late! I say if you want something done in a hurry, give it to a Chinaman!
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:41pm
    Strewth !! They will have that Coal out of here in no time ! :-)
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:35pm
    Read my earlier post Hasbeen. This is not rocket science and doing this through the financial institutions is the way forward. If they have to be tax collectors they will be albeit begrudgingly.
    Anonymous
    24th Jul 2015
    5:43pm
    If I was in business of manufacturing goods I would go overseas to get produced. Be a fool not to; wages too high in Australia. Bonds went offshore for that reason and 1850 jobs lost.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    5:49pm
    Nobody is Mentioning the PRICES IN THE SHOPS HERE MATCH THE WAGES ???
    Young Simmo
    24th Jul 2015
    6:05pm
    Probably because like us everybody is wondering what to do with all that left over pension money.
    I am tossing up whether to give it to the Retired Politicians Xmas fund, or the State Gov't.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    7:20pm
    And I was tossing up between Bread or Butter ? Bread won ! I can eat that without Butter, and dream of a Past Life in Port Arthur ! :-)
    Tom Tank
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:53am
    While I do buy online it is either from a local supplier so GST is already included or product from overseas which is either not available in this country or at an outrageous mark-up.
    This move will cost more to administer than it will bring in.
    There is such a double standard from this government with decisions being made that defy reasonable logic in protecting some businesses but throwing others to the wolves.
    Even financial institutions overseas have questioned some of the direction we are being forced down.
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:11am
    It will be bought in as self assessment with big penalties if you get it wrong.
    Golden Oldie
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:22pm
    I look online, then go to a pphysical shop if possible to purchase. If the price here is too high I generally go without, as the cost of postage is astronomical in some cases. For example, I priced a patchwork template in the US that I could not readily obtain here, and found the price was about US$15 with postage at US$35 for 10 of them. I only wanted 1, so did not purchase.
    I later found a small business that made them to order, so got it locally.
    Tom Tank
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:09pm
    If there to be penalties associated with self assessment then there must be some policing of imported products hence a cost. Will the costs associated with the policing be covered by the GST paid? Somehow I doubt it.
    I do believe in supporting local businesses, e.g. I check in supermarkets as to where the goods are sourced from and pay extra to buy local. I do object to outrageous mark ups however because of a monopoly situation due to a distributor agreement.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:40pm
    The coal industry does not have a problem Tom. How strange.
    PlanB
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:13am
    Maybe they should look at supporting our FARMERS and OUR BUSINESSES here and NOT import the darn food THAT WOULD BE A START!
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:14am
    Trade barriers???
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:17am
    We export our best food and import rubbish. Fish is a good example.
    PlanB
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:23am
    Also Tassie fish is caught and SENT TO MALAYSIA TO BE CLEANED AND THEN SENT BACK HERE!!!!!

    What a stupid idea that is and what is the footprint --16000ks there and back
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:15pm
    Bonny.. I cant help but notice that ! :-( Same with Meat ! We Export the BEST and eat the rest :-(
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:28pm
    I can recall goods being labelled "Export Quality" and we were charged extra for that sign.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:43pm
    All's fair in Love and War ! I can remember that "Export Quality" And when I unwrapped it saying "I'D HATE TO SEE THE OTHER STUFF ? :-( "
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:38pm
    We cant even make our own decent toilet paper. I picked up a roll the other day and it said we love your bum. I'm really worried about how things are changing.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:48pm
    Try the 3 Ply next time Frank ! :-)
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:52pm
    Trade barriers?
    They will be back around the planet when countries end up like ours. Australia has bee sold out by deadbeat governments for decades and we are heading for a Greek tragedy......no businesses which export and imports of everything.
    I'd be voting for trade barriers sooner rather than later and the retooling of our country to give our children jobs, not welfare.
    Patriot
    24th Jul 2015
    7:52am
    mick
    ALL countries - RIGHT around the WORLD - are going like GREECE.
    The International Bankers OWN US ALL with money they have CREATED OUT OF NOTHING !!!!!
    fOR THE REST: "Trade Barriers & Retooling MUST & CAN be the only solution!!!"
    PlanB
    24th Jul 2015
    9:18am
    Buy Quilton Toilet paper it is 3 ply AND Aussie too
    MICK
    24th Jul 2015
    9:21am
    Called spending more than you earn syndrome.
    I agree with your sentiments although trade barriers are emotive words which bring instant denial from all of the countries who actually need them. The big problem is that the west has gotten used to living off the third world...........and we don't want to change. We will have no choice at some stage other than refusing to pay our bills like the Greeks do. Even they (the ordinary folk) are now starting to suffer. But as usual the rich folk of Greece have been allowed to withdraw their hundreds of billions of dollars and skip the country.....all under the previous government. Funny that.

    23rd Jul 2015
    11:31am
    I shop online because everything in shops is ridiculously marked up despite it being made in China. Now the government wants to get on this exploitation as well is pathetic.
    Sen.Cit.90
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:14pm
    Yes jackie, I too shop online for the same reason e.g. 2 Walking stick rubbers; Hong Kong free post; $3.70 Same Rubbers also made in China, Aussie seller $10.42 free post.
    Elastic Laces (to aid arthritic hands) Aussie seller $14.99 China Seller $1.89

    23rd Jul 2015
    11:43am
    "Who will foot the bill?" - the same people who ALWAYS foot the bill -THE TAXPAYERS!!
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    8:33pm
    Fast Eddie, do you have another name?
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:53pm
    Never much changes Eddie.
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    11:46am
    I notice that we now have a choice. We can buy an imported car cheaper than one built in Australia. I suggest that the lowering of the LVT to capture some GST will not result in higher prices if you deal with countries with which we have a FTA?
    Anonymous
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:16pm
    Rubbish, Frank. Of course it will result in higher prices. And the administrative costs will be horrendous. Plus, it will put many small importers out of business. But it will help large rip-off franchises. Last month, we paid $75 (delivered) for a product that was on sale in SupaCheap Auto for $229.00. Why wouldn't we buy online? It's nothing to do with GST. SupaCheap could buy that product at retail, pay $7.50 GST, mark up 100%, and still sell way cheaper than their marked retail price.

    I buy my woolens from UK because I can buy pure cashmere and merino delivered to the door for the same price I pay for poor quality acrylics here - and BOTH are imported. The stores just choose to buy from Asia instead of UK. Why?

    It's NOT avoiding GST that is pushing prices up in our stores. It's the management policies.
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:19pm
    Rainey
    So right!
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:27pm
    Rainey .. I had the same thing happen ! I needed a SMALL Computer Insert for My Carburettor $449 + GST from Super Cheap ? WTF ? I found the same thing in America on line for $38 :-) The attitude here in Australia seems to be .."You need that part and Your Bloody car is not going anywhere without it !! :-( :-(
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:22pm
    Australia, where rich people can be on welfare and at the same time run an import business without paying tax.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:39pm
    Sounds good to me Frank ! :-) Don't tell the Boss ! :-(
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:11pm
    I like to buy my woollens from New Zealand and whenever I'm in China I buy my silks there, tailor maid of course. Whenever I go to Tasmania I always ask for Australian made products. I don't know why people find that funny?
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:27pm
    I want one of those Tailor Maids from China ! :-) Can I get one on the net ? :-)
    Young Simmo
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:40pm
    particolor, I would prefer an Aussie Maid,,,,,,, bigger boobs.
    Theo1943
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:43pm
    Yes you can, but you would not be advised to google Maids from China.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:48pm
    With My luck Id get a Blow Up Doll ! :-( Made In Taiwan. :-(
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    5:54pm
    The biggest whinger of course has been Gerry.
    I can see him counting his magic millions now! :/
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    6:56pm
    AND IT WORKS ! :-) :-) He's still on Side !
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:56pm
    What a load of economic rationalism crap Frank.
    The issue is WE NEED AUSTRALIAN MANUFACTURING. If competition is unfair then bring back the dreaded trade barriers to fix that.
    Gerg
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:24pm
    I wonder what helicopters cost online
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:28pm
    Single or Return ?
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:57pm
    Local or imported?
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    9:29am
    Able to 80K's on a single Flight !
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    1:26pm
    "That'll be Five Grand please Lady !" :-)
    "Keep the Change !" :-)
    Idontforget
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:36pm
    Regarding outrageous markups.

    Approximately three years ago I needed a veterinary instrument. The item was manufactured in the USA and the price in Australia was $922.00. I imported this very item from the USA and landed here it cost me $236.00. The sobbing and hand wringing to have GST applied to items under $1,000.00 by many, but of course not all big businesses is nothing more than to hold the Australian public to ransom.
    KSS
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:49pm
    idontforget, if you had added the GST you would have paid $259.60 - still way short of the Australian price so I doubt you would have made a different decision about where to buy.

    I agree with you. This demand by retailers to apply GST to on-line sales is nothing more than a smoke screen for the fact that people are choosing to save money, put extra on their mortgages and so on rather than rushing to the shops to spend up big. Retail has had it tough for a couple of years now and I am sorry for them. But adding GST to items bought overseas is not the answer to their problems nor the saviour of their businesses.
    Patriot
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:27pm
    Idontforget
    GREED by those NOT IN NEED!!!
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:40pm
    The USA has a very strong manufacturing sector which seems to bounce back quickly. I wonder why that is?
    Theo1943
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:44pm
    Most of their factories are just over the border in Mexico Frank.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:50pm
    Made by Mexican Maids ! :-)
    KSS
    23rd Jul 2015
    12:37pm
    I do occasionally shop on-line. However, it is mostly for gifts for people living overseas. So for example, if I want to send a gift to the UK, I may buy from a UK store and have it delivered directly to an address in the UK. Why? Well the cost of the item is far cheaper to begin with even with the 20% VAT (UK GST) added than the same item in Australia AND I don't have to pay the exorbitant postage rates that Australia Post charges.

    On the rare occasions I have actually bought something on-line for myself from an overseas store it is either that the item is simply not available in Australia or the cost (even if I have to pay postage which is rare) is much cheaper even allowing for currency exchange.

    Adding 10% GST will not change on-line shopping behaviour if the savings to be made are more than 10% which they generally are. And how much will it cost to collect the GST on say a $50 item - more than the $5 you collect?
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:31pm
    How Much for a 69 Grange on line ?
    KSS
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:45pm
    Anywhere from $419 to $1190 per bottle depending where you buy from. GST included!

    see here:
    http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/penfolds+grange+bin+95+australia/1969

    Oh the joys of internet shopping ;-)
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:07pm
    Its Ok I found a Bottle hidden in the Bushes at Parliament House ! :-)
    jeffr
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:32pm
    What will a $1000 be worth in ten years time compared to it's value now? The expense of collecting GST will have risen and the purchasing power of your $1000 dropping dramatically. Mr & Mrs Joe Public ends up once again paying for an ever increasing government bureaucracy.
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    5:50pm
    About $737.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:01pm
    The ATO forces business to collect tax for it. Why can government not force the financial institutions to do likewise? There was never a problem collecting FBT and the like so why is the GST an issue? This is s red herring from the government.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    1:39pm
    Paying GST on Imported Goods would still be WAY Cheaper than buying it here ! Now without the slightest hint of Whinging just compare the price overseas and then Locally !! I know where Your Going ! On the Net Pronto ! :-) :-)
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:24pm
    I take it you're not concerned with the 256% price increase for your keyboard purchases?
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:31pm
    I wasn't talking about Trivial little Items that You can get in Big W !! (On Special)
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:36pm
    So you were talking about regular purchases of items valued at $999.00.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:36pm
    Frank You have to be frugal on a Pittance ! Only buy Stationary at Dirt Prices in the School Holidays ! :-) And Meat on a Sunday night in the Supermarket, just before it turns GREEN ! And they mark it down for Peasants ! :-) :-)
    Young Simmo
    23rd Jul 2015
    5:56pm
    No point in rushing things parti, wait till it turns green and get it for a really low price, in fact they might pay you to take it away.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    6:54pm
    Bleach it and put it in the Mince on Monday !! :-)
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:30pm
    It goes green fast because it's halal certified. Anyway, I buy all my consumables fresh and over ripe. At my age you cant afford to buy green bananas.
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:00pm
    I don't think I've eaten mince since I saw a tellie show with Jamie Oliver showing how they make pink slime and add it to mince to make it go further.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:05pm
    Frank is not a poor man particolor. He just has a poor attitude and few morals given what Frank does on this website...and probably others.
    You are right about there often being more than a 20% difference in price. Sometimes it can be huge and we have seen some overseas stores who either block access to their websites if you have an Australian IP address or who just refuse to sell into Australia and force you to use their Australian website.
    Adrianus
    24th Jul 2015
    7:12am
    mick you have no idea.
    when Simon & Garfunkel penned the words for "the boxer" they could have been writing my life story.
    mick your hatred and politics of envy will only motivate you so far and it must be hell on those close to you.
    MICK
    24th Jul 2015
    9:16am
    My "hatred" is of corrupt politics, the buying of policy by the rich and their businesses and the system set up so that the rich get rich because they are legally able to avoid the taxes average battlers are forced to pay. No envy. I don't exactly spend 2-3 months overseas every year on a beer diet.
    Pardon me for demonising the scams and the side of politics which is taking corruption to a new height. You fit in well Frank.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    9:43am
    In a clearing stands The Boxes and a loser by his trade
    He has squandered his Existence
    For a pocket full of Mumbo Jumbo
    Uttered from Tones and Joe ! :-)
    Adrianus
    24th Jul 2015
    10:02am
    I fit in well because I think the coalition is less corrupt than the Unions.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    10:12am
    Using the Holier than Thou System has never worked !
    Co operation and Understanding And working towards a Mutual agreement is better than Shrieking at each other across a Chamber where nobody is listening ! :-(
    Frankly
    23rd Jul 2015
    2:54pm
    I don't buy anything online from overseas, but I spend part of the year living and travelling overseas and stock up on items which are sooo much cheaper there compared to here. It makes it worthwhile paying the extra in added luggage fees, just to buy ordinary consumables. It's the price we pay for having a low population density and high infrastructure costs. We are already the second most highly taxed country in the world after Denmark!
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:36pm
    Consumables ? I'll be seeing You on "Border Security" soon ! Cant wait for that Episode. :-)
    "Anything to Declare Sir ?" .. "No ! Only these Cloud Ear Mushrooms,20 Apples an a Big bag of Icing Sugar !! :-) :-)"
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:46pm
    I went overseas to Tassie earlier this year and goods actually seemed cheaper there in the big supermarkets than on the mainland. I have heard that the big supermarket price their goods according to location and the wealth of a area. The cost of goods then has little do with what they cost to be put on the shelf and more to do with what the supermarket thinks people will pay.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:57pm
    Yes ! Its based on how much You can Bare !! UM Bear, No Bare !! :-)
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:04pm
    Franky we are highly motivated and aiming to be number one.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:31pm
    We need a better Telescopic Sight !
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:08pm
    The cost of the flight is much more than any potential savings. Most travellers just buy the duty free grog.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:08pm
    The cost of the flight is much more than any potential savings. Most travellers just buy the duty free grog.
    particolor
    26th Jul 2015
    8:08pm
    And then go home by Helicopter ! :-)
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:21pm
    Will we end up like certain states in the US where if you live in a state that has tax similar to GST others states have banned you for buying from them? Will other countries ban us in a similar way?
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:12pm
    What other countries will do is to hit our exports with tax when they have clean energy and we have coal fired energy. We are so short sighted that we ignore where the environmental issue is going. Never simply been just about air quality.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:12pm
    What other countries will do is to hit our exports with tax when they have clean energy and we have coal fired energy. We are so short sighted that we ignore where the environmental issue is going. Never simply been just about air quality.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    9:48am
    But we wont get Mad ! We'll get even ! We'll Smoke them out !! :-)
    Young Simmo
    23rd Jul 2015
    3:48pm
    I love internet shopping especially when I can buy this for $203 including delivery from Sydney to Carnarvon. The local bike shop would want 5 or 600 bucks.
    http://www.oo.com.au/Stowabike-Folding-Dual-Suspens_P370104.cfm
    Adrianus
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:01pm
    134.99 from the UK get 2 now and avoid the GST or buy one at half the price! But hurry these prices can change faster than Bill Shorten's mind.
    http://www.tesco.com/direct/stowabike-26-folding-dual-suspension-18-speed-shimano-gears-foldable-mountain-bike/319-8181.prd?skuId=319-8181
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:08pm
    Something's Fishy when You can buy something on the other side of the Planet for a 1/4 of the price you can get it here ?
    Young Simmo
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:33pm
    Frank if that 134.99 is British Pounds, it would be $286.21 Aust, plus freight from Pommy Land to Aus. I like my $203 and sitting at my front door.

    parti a Mountain Bike doesn't look anything like a fish!!
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:40pm
    Neither does a Helicopter ! :-)
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:45pm
    PS.. And if I ever buy one on the Net even, I am going to name it Bronwyn !! :-) :-)
    kjw
    23rd Jul 2015
    4:48pm
    My son buys Yugioh cards from the USA. If he could buy the specific cards he wants here he would do so. A card costing $50 here would cost $50 + postage + exchange on both the card and the postage. I have found several other things that I cannot actually buy here. Now we will have to pay all the additional costs + more.
    andromeda143
    23rd Jul 2015
    5:18pm
    This is just another nail in the coffin of the Liberals that they themselves are banging in, and all just to give their rich, bloated capitalistic mates like Gerry Harvey an extra income. The reason people buy from overseas is because local retailers like Harvey Norman overprice their goods to blazes. Just try going into HN and bargaining with them. They start with exaggeratedly high prices and then lower them if they have to to get the sale. They never think of the purchaser. If the customer is silly enough to pay the exorbitant prices charged by the likes of HN and Ted's Cameras then the retailer will happily take their money. If the customer votes with his feet then Gerry squeals to his Liberal mates and Joe comes running with plans to hit the little man.
    Hockey and Abbott have nobody but themselves to blame when they are unceremoniously dumped from office after only one term. Good riddance to them.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    5:23pm
    I've just sent them a Big Bag of Nails ! I got on the Internet CHEAP ! :-)
    Reeper
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:15pm
    Never heard so much unsubstantiated twaddle in my life. Whatever prices you pay in Australia, whether big or small retailers, isn't a direct response to profit margins.
    Every wholesaler and retailer has no shortage of overheads...much of which is called 'WAGES'...something everyone has to get who works.
    If you can buy better and cheaper from overseas, do so but I'll bet with a modicum of brain power you can always get a better deal with a bit of bargaining. I don't think we have paid floor price for a single purchase of homewares/goods for years. Wave CASH about and most retailers are very happy for the quick turnover...
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:31pm
    And that's Exactly what I do Reeper and it works every time !! Bank Notes speak louder than Credit Cards ! :-)
    andromeda143
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:42pm
    You obviously have a lot of experience of buying online, Reeper. I bargain both locally and online and I always do better online.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:19pm
    There are many reasons why so many goods can be bought much cheaper online than in Australia. Scalping by local business is one of them.
    Anonymous
    25th Jul 2015
    4:58pm
    After watching a segment on ACA this week the credit card is just as good as cash these days and I always pay by credit card and always get a discount. Makes no difference to the retailers .
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    5:15pm
    I get MORE Discount than you ! They Love the Smell of a Bundle of Federal Notes ! :-)
    Pass the Ductape
    23rd Jul 2015
    6:50pm
    It would have made much more sense to stop the fleecing of Australian consumers who pay an exorbitant retail price for products generally made in China where the quality of the goods purchased is so poor that its no wonder people are not disposed to buy - thereby contributing nothing via GST. Any subsequent increase in the GST rate will only exacerbate the problem.
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:14pm
    The quality of some electrical appliances is so bad they are down right dangerous.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:27pm
    I've got a Microwave that was Made In Australia. Its 30 years old this year and has Never Missed a Beat !! :-) TRUE !!
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    8:03pm
    I've just replaced my 20 something old Aussie made dishwasher with same brand but made in Europe. Old one was still working but it's wheels had fallen off and the baskets were a bit too heavy to lift in and out. I had 2 choices spend lots of money or buy a cheap one with 6 years warranty and when warranty expires and it packs it in just get another new one. Decided just to get a cheap one with an extended warranty and if it last longer then good if not then just replace it.
    MICK
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:24pm
    Agree Ductape.
    Chinese made goods are going the same way as Japanese ones were 50 years ago: improving every day.
    You cannot always generalise either. I bought a Sony Japanese made camera 2 years ago. Cost almost $700. A heap of crap! But if you buy a BMW you will find the alternator is the same as in most other cars and is great quality. Made in China.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    10:25am
    Mazda parts fit Ford Cars ! So there Mick :-)
    Pass the Ductape
    23rd Jul 2015
    6:57pm
    Oh hell! Why do I bother? No-one is listening anyway.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:12pm
    I think they have Duct out for Tea Mr Tape ? :-) Back soon ! But if you are talking about our Most Honourable Leader, Your Right He's not listening ! :-)
    LiveItUp
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:12pm
    I was in Hardly Normal the other day and a salesman was explaining how good their extended warranty was etc. He said that if my appliance fails within the period they just send me a new one and I dump the old one. He didn't know what to say when I said "What a waste". Now that is taking built in obsolesce to the extreme. I guess it's just too expensive here in Aussieland to even fix things.
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    7:19pm
    I did the same at Hardly Normal's and took the extended warranty And Strike Me Pink they Honoured it ! The Chinese Crap went haywire as expected and they gave me a NEW ONE of a Different Brand ! :-) I'm still in shock 6 months later !
    KSS
    23rd Jul 2015
    8:25pm
    Hardly Normal has salesmen?
    Jim
    23rd Jul 2015
    8:14pm
    Wages are not the biggest impost on business, it's all the related costs of operating a business,energy costs being one of the major costs that are crippling business,payroll tax is another. If we reduced these cost by 10 percent maybe we could employ a lot more people, resulting in selling more locally produced goods, which may drop the prices of locally produced goods, then put a tariff on imported goods, seems too simple, maybe overseas buyers will then be able to buy our goods?
    particolor
    23rd Jul 2015
    9:15pm
    That's too sensible to be even contemplated by our Ignoramuses !! :-)
    Robin7
    23rd Jul 2015
    10:48pm
    The Harvey Norman Tax. I wont buy a single thing from THAT store ever again...
    Anonymous
    24th Jul 2015
    7:23am
    I loathe Harvey Norman and their incompetent staff....where I live anyway. The Good Guys get all my business.
    LiveItUp
    24th Jul 2015
    12:01pm
    I too seem to buy more stuff from Good guys than Hardley Normal.

    My daughter wanted to buy a mobile and Hardly Normal's online price was over $100 cheaper than even online. I rang the store to see if they had one and would they keep it until tomorrow at that price. No guarantee was given. So I remembered I had been given some Hardly Normal credit about six months ago so we paid for it online only to be directed to same store I rang to pick it up. Next day I checked price online and it was $171 more.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    1:05pm
    So Mum was Right ! :-) "Cheaper at Half the Price" :-)
    Young Simmo
    24th Jul 2015
    1:17pm
    My Mum was always right, other wise get ready, here comes the STRAP.
    Mind you back in the 1940s the strap was more normal than Fridges and Air Conds.

    What the hell is a Television????????
    Young Simmo
    24th Jul 2015
    1:19pm
    In fact up in Wyndham school we sat out under the Boab tree to do most of our lessons.

    24th Jul 2015
    7:19am
    I believe it will still be cheaper to buy overseas even with the GST charge. I have no problem with helping our own businesses stay afloat.
    Adrianus
    24th Jul 2015
    7:49am
    I agree Radish. I also think the lowering of the LVT will put a stop to the backyarders little tax avoidance scheme.
    Australian businesses which are doing the right thing should be encouraged to prosper. The backyarders are not going to employ anyone are they?
    Patriot
    24th Jul 2015
    7:58am
    Frank
    They usually employ themselves & their family.
    They also bring dignity to another family unit!!!

    Not a VALUE in the annals of the NLP Frank???
    Adrianus
    24th Jul 2015
    8:07am
    Well they can do it without hiding cant they?
    MICK
    24th Jul 2015
    9:12am
    Yeah Patriot. The big boys buy their legislation with election funding 'donations' (bribes?) and the little guys squirrel away a couple of dollars in cash...which they then spend and it helps the economy to function. No 6 figure salaries, Ferraris or yachts there.
    Adrianus
    24th Jul 2015
    10:19am
    There is an old saying that you cannot sell unless you are sold. Are you sold mick? Do you really believe this class warfare crap that you're peddling? Or is it just that your hypocrisy knows no bounds as long as you get paid.
    Yes, I'm onto you mick. :)
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    10:28am
    Do Spy's pay Income Tax ? :-)
    PlanB
    24th Jul 2015
    9:27am
    I read here that we aren't able to MAKE things here,

    Well we used to make EVERYTHING but the businesses got greedy and went off shore now we make bugga all
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    9:32am
    we don't even make them ? :-)
    geomac
    24th Jul 2015
    3:01pm
    Well I guess the govt will have to employ more customs staff to check goods coming in to make sure the GST is paid. A box with a watch in it can say anything on the invoice or address label. At the moment the aussie dollar is not as much value for buying goods abroad so any lowering of the GST threshold is a double whammy on the buyer. There is no incentive for the B&M shops to provide a competitive price if buyers are hit by that double whammy.
    So is it all talk that achieves little ?
    The AUD is of less value
    The cost of recouping the GST will negate the tax gained
    The consumer will pay more which goes against the reasons we were told we cannot afford to manufacture anything here ie cheaper goods.
    The govt will not hire the extra staff required to monitor the collection of goods for GST.
    Overseas businesses will accommodate the buyer not the govt as in description and cost of goods.
    The USA does not have a GST or VAT so Fryberg does not know what he is talking about.
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    3:11pm
    Well ! That's Quashed that ! Now back to the Brawling Board ! :-(
    Patriot
    24th Jul 2015
    3:51pm
    geomac
    Ah !!! One small detail though.
    The Govt will GAIN MORE CONTROL(S) OVER US.

    POWER = MONEY!!!
    particolor
    24th Jul 2015
    4:32pm
    If they keep snooping like they are, they will end up getting Poked in the Eye ! :-)
    Patriot
    25th Jul 2015
    5:54am
    particolor
    Hope so!!!
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    10:49am
    After watching Lateline on the ABC last night, YES ! The ABC for the ABC Haters ! :-) I don't think its wise to be on the Internet any longer ? Between the Ruskys looking for a FREE LUNCH in Your bank account and Sites getting Hacked for Blackmail Info, Personal Details for Identity Theft !... I give in ! ... Doesn't anybody on Earth now Earn an Honest Crust ? :-( :-( Sneaky Pollies, Cookie Hunters and assorted Snoops are ever present too !! :-(
    Have a NIIIICE DAY ! :-)
    Ausdigga
    25th Jul 2015
    11:05am
    Have a look at the price difference we pay compared to other countries for just one online item ,Wikicamps and you get an inkling of how much and how often we are screwed !
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    11:54am
    Australia has the Best Screwdrivers in the Known Universe !! :-)
    Patriot
    25th Jul 2015
    12:03pm
    particolor
    Indeed,
    They are SCREWING is very effectively & Efficiently done isn such an insidious fashion that many of us "Don't even know it".
    They indeed: "ARE THE BEST".
    Or are we - collectively - just STUPID???
    Adrianus
    25th Jul 2015
    12:12pm
    Sidchrome are the worlds best spanners. They've been handling tough nuts for 70 years. But they weren't always made in Taiwan. Let's get tough on unions and keep our businesses local!!
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    1:17pm
    We went from Torpedos to Toledos after the war ! And have been Screwed ever since :-)
    Frank.. Ya Canna Hand a Man a Granda Spanna ! :-)
    MADE IN AUSTRALIA :-)
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    1:21pm
    And NO We are Not Stupid ! Just Hyjacked by a Supremist Guvmint !... Democracy Means do as Your Bloodywell Told ! :-(
    Young Simmo
    25th Jul 2015
    1:28pm
    That's interesting parti, always thought Democracy meant,
    Demo Crazy, short for Demonstrate a Crazy Government.
    particolor
    25th Jul 2015
    1:53pm
    Demos would be Unnecessary if Guvmints did as they were Elected to do !! :-)
    Not Lie like Satin to get elected and then ..Cop This You Lot ! :-(

    25th Jul 2015
    5:00pm
    I saw on TV this morning something running along the bottom of the screen said that the $1,000 limit for imported goods may drop to $20.
    Did a search and found this...looks as though it is being contemplated.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-24/gst-threshold-for-online-shoppers-could-fall-to-20-dollars/6645012
    Adrianus
    26th Jul 2015
    7:51pm
    Interesting article. It's the right thing to do and it's the right time to do it.
    Tudley
    26th Jul 2015
    7:29pm
    Problem with Joe is that he couldn't pass his grade 1 arithmetic exam.Why cannot he work out that there is a better way to stabilize the economy.Put a stop to the banking fraud like Iceland did and are now forging ahead.Jail the crooks and make the people;s Banks create the the currency without the interest attached.note every dollar in circulation is now carrying an interest debt and then some. So much for ShocKey Hockey.
    Patriot
    26th Jul 2015
    9:05pm
    Tudley
    That would very much upset his "Missus" because she was once rising to become head of global finance for Deutsche Bank and so is closely related to the International banksters (mates???) you refer to! Joe Hockey once proudly dubbed her ''the girl from Roselands with nothing except a huge brain''.

    Shows the MOTIVATION of the BEING!!!???

    Your words are VERY TRUE & are THE ONLY SOLUTION to the CURRENT MESS!!!
    The rest are MERE TRIVIALITIES once the "Money Issue" has been resolved!

    Indeed, Iceland is in the process of "Turfing the International banksters out on THEIR BUT".
    Creation of Money for the "Benefit of the PEOPLE (not the banksters)" has also begone to be discussed in the UK & Dutch parliaments.
    Below are just a "Few Links".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qieVZb4Ml9I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlzC_XMQzI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGoCQFbvHzs

    Is the JUGGERNAUT on the move and "Has the Pin that held it In Place for such a long time" BEEN RELEASED?
    Let's hope we have the GUTS to CARRY it THROUGH & ESCALATE it!!!
    geomac
    27th Jul 2015
    5:22pm
    Customs data provided to the commission estimated that in 2010-11 up to three quarters of international mail parcels were valued between $1 - $100.

    The commission said reducing the threshold to $100 could raise roughly $500 million but would cost consumers and businesses $750 million in current customs processing charges and predicted the actual handling costs would be higher.

    "Effectively, it may cost the community over $1.2 billion to facilitate the collection of $496 million in revenue," the commission said.

    But Mr Hockey said agreements struck at the G20 Australia hosted in November last year, meant the cost of imposing the GST on goods bought from overseas would be less.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/gst-threshold-for-imported-online-purchases-could-be-reduced-to-0-warns-joe-hockey-20150727-gil4qa.html#ixzz3h4ewioIZ
    Young Simmo
    27th Jul 2015
    5:56pm
    As long as we the people are paying Hockey's accommodation bill to his wife, Hockey doesn't give a stuff.
    Bishop / Hockey has a strange ring to it, and I don't mean in a religious sense.
    geomac
    28th Jul 2015
    1:28pm
    Crikey
    With so many costs and no benefits, it is unclear exactly why DFAT and Andrew Robb are prepared to damage Australia's national interests by embracing ISDS in the TPP, which because the US is a signatory would reverse the Howard government's decision to exclude ISDS from the Australia-US Free Trade Agreement.

    ISDS, like much of the rest of the TPP, is more like a power grab by powerful transnationals, facilitated by ideologically obsessive governments and cocktail-circuit diplomats -- many of whom will go onto corporate careers and board memberships themselves -- at the expense of democracy and good public policy.
    stake
    30th Jul 2015
    12:58pm
    just as an opener how about having a look at members of parliaments entitlements and scams, all of them!
    Young Simmo
    30th Jul 2015
    2:08pm
    Yeh stake, I asked some time ago if anybody could say the TOTAL cost of Politicians including retirement, and the cost of pensions. But nobody came up with any numbers.
    I am only guessing but reckon a couple of hundred politicians probably cost more than 10% of Millions of pensioners.
    particolor
    30th Jul 2015
    3:42pm
    Whirly Birds Are Go !! :-)
    Adrianus
    30th Jul 2015
    3:53pm
    This is why nobody wants Bishop sacked. Have you heard of Pandora's Box?
    particolor
    30th Jul 2015
    4:20pm
    Another remark like that Frank and I will have You removed from the Chamber Pot !! :-)
    eggles01
    30th Jul 2015
    11:08pm
    hey joe how about just putting 20% gst on all items over $1000 purchased overseas instead of just hitting the below $1000 buyers who are mainly pensioners,and the underprivileged who cannot afford to go further into poverty
    particolor
    31st Jul 2015
    9:25am
    Hear ! Hear !! :-)


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