NBN rival to launch in 2016

Global telco MyRepublic this week announced its plan to launch services in Australia.

NBN rival to launch in 2016

Earlier this week, Singaporean telco MyRepublic announced plans to launch services in Australia by mid-2016 as a rival to the NBN. Co-founder Malcolm Rodrigues heavily criticised the NBN suggesting the government had “completely stuffed it”.

Telstra’s outgoing chief executive David Thodey labelled tier-three disruptors including MyRepublic as the biggest threat to the company, more so than TPG or Optus.

MyRepublic currently provides services in Singapore, Indonesia and New Zealand with a 100Mbps unlimited plan being sold at $79.99 per month to our Kiwi neighbours. “We're going to come in with an unlimited 100 megabit per second offer at the $80-$90 per month range.” said Mr Rodrigues

Mr Rodrigues believes that Australia will fall behind as a nation if, by 2020, 50Mbps is used as the national internet benchmark. “More and more Australians will leave the country looking for jobs and you'll continue to be a resource based economy – the hope of building IT jobs and a digital economy will kind of be more difficult to achieve,” he said.

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Opinion: Competition good for consumers

MyRepublic co-founder Malcolm Rodrigues didn’t hold back his critical opinion of the internet landscape in Australia. He pointed out the short-comings of the NBN and current broadband providers, stating that MyRepublic would be entering the Australian market with competitive plans far below the current rates offered by the current telco (or providers).

Unlike companies that have in the past promised the world and failed to deliver, MyRepublic has already proven itself with successful launches in Indonesia and New Zealand in recent years that deliver low-cost, unlimited 100Mbps plans. Executives at TPG, iiNet, Telstra, Optus and even the NBN should be worried as the entry of MyRepublic into the Australian internet market next year promises a huge shake-up in the price of internet access.

It’s been several years since a major player entered the internet market in Australia and there can only ever be positive outcomes for the consumer when competition increases. Based on the overseas pricing of MyRepublic and the recent statements by Mr Rodrigues, I wouldn’t be surprised if Australian internet prices dropped by 10–15 per cent as current providers strive to remain competitive.

What do you think? Will you consider moving your internet plan to MyRepublic once services launch in Australia? Have you looked around for a better internet deal recently? Do you agree with Malcolm Rodrigues that Australia will suffer with an internet benchmark speed of only 50 Mbps?





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    Lippy
    11th Aug 2015
    10:20am
    When rollout of FTTN started, the current government just does not get it that they should have stuck with FTTP/H plan. As a ex-Telco worker, the statement made by this new player is correct, Australia has a sh*t network and I have seen the little money spent to fix the copper network. Now LNP are rolling out FTTN and the part of the network which is sh*t is what they are still going to use. NBN need to listen to what the public want and not what this government is wasting money a temporary NBN. My provider has been great, but I think they need to ASK the customers what type of service they prefer as an option, not what the government says is the best and fastest way to roll out the NBN within reason. http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/telecoms-and-nbn/68953-singapores-myrepublic-to-enter-australian-broadband-market
    ozzie
    11th Aug 2015
    11:22am
    Agree, Lippy....I too am an ex-Telco worker & understand the "Turnbull MTM" with FTTN instead of Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) (FTTP was the original NBN intent). The MTM/FTTN is "rubbish and is outdated technology" NOW before it is even deployed....there are 2 important factors why the LNP "neutered" the NBN. (1) to protect the Dowager Emperor's Foxtel network and try and make it still viable, and (2) to keep the Telstra share price high to the benefit of the "rich mates" in the "top end of town" happy with their TLS:ASX shares. Foxtel are going out backwards as they fight to make any profit.....but keep shooting themselves in the foot. Telstra reaped $11B for the "sale" of it's copper network, but is now going to carry out the design work for Turnbull's FTTN.....so Telstra almost become "quasi owner" of a network they sold & don't have to pay any of the $11B back. Indeed, they will reap benefits of contracts with the NBN by designing the FTTN + upgrading the "Street Cable Foxtel" to DOCSIS 3.....thereby giving another legup to the Fox Corporation & Telstra. Without FTTP, anything else is useless, worthless, out of date, inferior and a waste of money....
    Waiting to retire at 70
    11th Aug 2015
    1:34pm
    Politics in Australia has been a career path for 20 years. Defrauding tax payers and lying are the norm in that 'profession'. These are the people WE have elected to deal with the great 'moral issue' of climate change, amongst other things. Including the building of a fibre network as the foundation for new IT industries for Australia. Bovine Excretia to them!

    Ignoring the physics of thowing light down a glass fibre and claiming it can be done just as quickly via radio frequency induction, is only 'politically scientifically' correct'. Same sort of 'science' is used on climate. So why do it? Why say it? Lippy and Ozzie are from the telecommunications industry, why don't we listen to such people?

    Why would a politician like Malcolm 'turncoat' Turnbullsh*t, who does know better, ever say RFID is faster than the speed of light? Yes, just a bit rhetorical, my 8 year old knows better! But Mal is a politician and only understands 'political science' and exploiting Australian taxpayers.

    One journalist dared to ask about French Telecom shares refuted to be held by politicians. He was told they would be put into a trust. Who is the beneficary of that trust? Oh, and by the way, who owns some of the companies rolling out our node infrastructure to 'every street' in Australia. Aller sur , devinez!
    particolor
    11th Aug 2015
    3:42pm
    What a Stinky Guvmint ! :-(

    11th Aug 2015
    10:33am
    Governments should never go into business , especially high tec . It should have always been left to the market to provide what consumers want .
    If we need to subsidise remote users that is a separate discussion ...
    Pablo
    11th Aug 2015
    11:54am
    If the Government (ALP or LNP) did not push ahead with any variety of the NBN, we would still be left with Telstra's well-outdated network which is as slow as a wet week, AND expensive! Telstra is the one and only one to blame for our extremely poor performing broadband network which HAD to be improved and updated to meet the needs of the 21st century, something Telstra was never prepared to do.
    Graeme
    11th Aug 2015
    11:59am
    If you leave it to the market, then the only areas that will get coverage are the high profit areas such as the big cities and the rest of the country can go to hell. The only way to get coverage for all of Australia is to have the government involved. Some how I can't see My Republic offering service to small UNPROFITABLE towns, they are only interested in the cream.
    ozzie
    11th Aug 2015
    12:43pm
    Pablo, the 4 twisted pair copper wire network was never built for high speed data....it was built for the POTS, or plain old telephone service - PSTN.....high speed data was never in anyone's mind when the PMG/Telecom/Telstra rolled out copper....

    Graeme - you're right "on the money"....left to Private Enterprise, you would only see the "Profitable Areas" get FTTP. The only reason Telstra has such a vast network (PSTN & Mobile) is due to their USO, or "Universal Service Obligation"....everyone - wherever they live is entitled to a plain telephone service at the same price as anyone else. If the live beyond wireless or copper reach, the get a Satellite Home Phone. We've seen in the recent past, TPG going "toe to toe" with the NBN by putting FTB or "Fibre to the Basement" of hi-rise apartments......one Fibre Cable & connect 10's or 100's to the NBN. This type of "cherry-picking" is what you'd see on a grand scale if left solely to the "market".
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    7:16pm
    Hello Pete,
    Sorry mate, but that is utter American Corporate propaganda rubbish. There is NO free market, it is closely controlled by the big end of town's financial interests. The closest to a free market is the labour market in the USA which gives workers very little rights which is why they are so poorly paid and a large number rely on tips to survive.

    Re the Libs NBN: If you put in RUBBISH, you GET out RUBBISH and that is what the LIBS NBN represented.... RUBBISH. They had to finance it themselves at TRIPLE the price of Labor's NBN (internationally proclaimed the best in the world). The Libs could not even sell their rubbish, as NO private financier wanted it!

    Labor's NBN was top of the world, fastest possible, future proof (upgradable), ONLY $37b (costings audited) as compared to unaudited costings of OVER $100b of the Libs disaster, most reliable (no copper and was not affected by the weather) AND WAIT FOR IT!!!.......... would have provided the govt. with PROFITS AFTER REPAYING the TOTAL COST of THEIR (Labor) NBN in the year 2034. The Libs NBN was a $100b disaster that would NEVER repay itself OR provide profits to the govt!!!

    Next: Why should a few PRIVATE UNKNOWN (mostly foreign) wealthy elite OWN a monopoly that controls a country's communications and accrues massive wealth whilst the Australian people PAY for the cost of that enterprise.

    Labor's NBN was a WIN/WIN for the nation, for the people of Australia and for the economy (due to the entrepreneurship of the Labor Govt.) because it was a winner for now and in the future.

    Labor's NBN was an excellent ENTERPRISE which was ESSENTIAL to Australia and was Australian owned and profits come back into govt. coffers (less tax for average taxpayers) AND this WONDERFUL NBN (Labor's) was provided to EVERY HOUSEHOLD in Australia which means that EVERY CHILD had access and not just a wealthy few.

    Liberal's NBN was a disaster from the start... nobody wants it BUT many private megacorps are making a lot of money out of this BUNGLE.... $100b+ to be more precise. Telstra is laughing all the way to the bank, as they have SOLD the USELESS COPPER to the Liberal govt. when it will simply be thrown out AND Telstra will be paid exorbitant maintenance fees to maintain this costly copper for years to come.

    Useless for Australia BUT extremely LUCRATIVE for megacorps, it seems.
    JAID
    11th Aug 2015
    11:20am
    There is no need to be disgruntled here. The decision to build the NBN was misguided but it was a decision thought on balance to be in the countries interest at the time and by those voted to power. The current government is correctly attempting to achieve an approximate balance of individual opportunity without progressing further down the regressive path which a national scheme in this case always really was despite best intentions.

    There is also no doubt that the existing NBN roll-out has been an advantage even if that is going to be seen as a relatively short term advantage as technology rolls on. It has offered fast and cheap connection relative to the copper based ADSL/ADSL2 before it. Mr. Rodrigues' comments are self-serving. The results which his team will offer are the results which are available wherever competition can make itself felt with today's technology. The 'stuffed' opportunity he talks of is opportunity as of now not of a half dozen years ago.

    We will move on.
    LiveItUp
    11th Aug 2015
    11:27am
    I had an open mind about the NBN until I signed up for it about 2 months ago. The reason I decided to change was the ongoing problems we have with our current system.

    Today I am no closer to getting the NBN than I was 2 months ago as no one seems to be able to get their act together and sort it out for me. If this continues then I'll be signing up to this new provider before I get the NBN.
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    7:53pm
    Bonny

    Your troubles won't go away, even with the Libs NBN, as the Libs NBN uses the SAME copper that the other system used. Unless of course you have an extra $5000 - $10000 extra cash to put in a PSEUDO Labor NBN (still absolutely substandard and NOT upgradable).

    If the Libs didn't pander to Murdoch and his megacorp cronies, they would have finished Labor's NBN and been proclaimed heroes. Overseas, they were calling Labor's NBN a 'world wonder' because of the expanse and extent of the brilliant, future proof, incredibly fast NBN being installed in EVERY household Australia wide. Providing the whole nation with innovative technology which could have put Australia 20 years ahead of the rest of the world. Instead we are now 20 years behind with the rubbish Lib NBN. See above for further facts about that rubbish nbn.
    geomac
    12th Aug 2015
    1:17am
    Bonny I doubt you are being factual or to put it another way I think you are making that up. Which ISP ? Is the NBN already in your area or have you somehow signed up for NBN that is not yet in your area which is equally dubious.
    geomac
    12th Aug 2015
    1:20am
    Bonny can you explain this , your post below 12.08pm
    The NBN works out cheaper than my current services with more bells and whistles.
    ANONYMOUS
    11th Aug 2015
    11:28am
    As a pensioner living in and enjoying the age of technology ................. I am always looking for a cheaper deal and if I get faster too ............... all the better.

    The powers that be, starting at the top ............... are stifling, talking down and strangling our country.

    Whilst I prefer to do everything I can to support our own country, providers, farmers etc ........... because Australian pensions are so low ............... I have no choice but to look for a better price ............ as every cent counts.

    Hopefully the Mulitnationals and the Government won't block it for us.
    Lippy
    11th Aug 2015
    11:51am
    If you only use no more than 5 GB of data a month, it is cheaper to get a mobile plan like Amaysim for under $45 month and you can make all your calls, sms and surf the net. Line rental is about $22 to $30 month then your internet plan which can start from $40. When you add it up, the NBN looks expensive if you don't use the net all the time. Thank god this government has not made a threat to take away the utility allowance (yet).
    Sen.Cit.90
    11th Aug 2015
    12:57pm
    Hi Lippy, I'm also with Amaysim cost $10.00 each 3 months: One can use the $10 worth of Internet. If you do not use the $10 then the balance is added to the payment (if on time) If not paid on time then the balance is not credited and start with the $10 again.I use the Internet only for browsing and emails and I've $90.00+ in credit.(no contract involved)
    Sen.Cit.90
    13th Aug 2015
    2:49pm
    Sorry if anyone took notice of my comment above about Amaysim;
    I confused my reply with ISP instead of Mobile phone!!
    A Senior Moment of an 86 y.old :-)
    RogerA
    11th Aug 2015
    11:35am
    Launching a rival to the NBN? Fibre to the home is a natural monopoly, because it would be incredibly silly to have two rival services dug in along the same street verge. Likewise, 'water to the home' and 'sewerage from the home' and 'footpath to the home' are natural monopolies. Now, in theory we could privatise a natural monopoly and regulate it as Government sees fit, or, what the heck, leave Government as the owner. So, Government (even the Abbott Government) will retain the NBN position we have now (though, of course, the way the Abbott Govt runs the NBN could be improved). Here is another thought, in years to come, we may get to really appreciate the way that Malcolm Turnball 'sweet talked' (Alan Kohler's words, if my recollection is correct) Abbott away from a complete wrecking of the NBN. The present situation is a sort of 'Malcolm's Wall'.
    LiveItUp
    11th Aug 2015
    11:41am
    I see the NBN becoming just like the electricity network. In fact it is already being sold that way. You have to sign up with a retail provider who then gets you connected to the NBN. You can then change your provider just like you do with electricity. Government now has another asset to sell which we have all paid for.
    Reeper
    11th Aug 2015
    11:51am
    I live in what is loosely considered a Perth southern suburb. I can't get ADSL2, and when I first got ADSL the techs found the 'Green Dalek' on our street to be full of corrosion and a neigbour had been patched into what was our line to the exchange. They resolved that, but I am more or less stuck with Telstra; that hasn't been bad and I haven't had any complaints. The NBN is a dream although surrounding sub-suburbs have it, my installation aren't even calculable.
    I would just love some improvement on what I have and if MyRepublic comes my way there will be a welcome mat for it.
    The NBN was doomed for failure from day one. The original costings showed the government of the day didn't have a clue what they were doing but still committed to a sub-par system which is proving very difficult to improve.
    The whole national telecommunications network should have been upgraded decades ago but I reckon we will still lag behind Romania when the NBN is 'completed'.
    Paicey58
    11th Aug 2015
    11:59am
    If it's cheaper and works better why wouldn't you get it!!!
    I wondered why all the internet providers have been doing great Deals lately? Now I know that they new a cheaper version was coming and we're trying to lock in their customers so they didn't leave them. Sneaky.
    LiveItUp
    11th Aug 2015
    12:08pm
    The NBN works out cheaper than my current services with more bells and whistles.
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    8:14pm
    Paicey58

    Because all the rubbish in the adverts are just that, rubbish. The Libs NBN is rubbish and would not provide higher speeds than I already have and in fact, there is a big possibility that my speeds will diminish. It is also still dependent upon the COPPER, so will still be unreliable and prone to problems in wet weather, not to mention the need to air condition the stupid NODES.

    No, the Libs NBN is a fiasco with an exorbitant price tag ($100b+) TRIPLE the cost of Labor's NBN, because I presume, the costs of the nodes and total mismanagement and pathetic negotiations with mega corps involved in NBN corp.

    The NBN proposed by the Singaporean Telco is more in line with Labor's NBN ($37b paid off and profits coming in by 2034). So, it would not only be cheaper to instal, it would provide hugely greater speeds, more reliable service (no copper and the problems associated therewith), and of course cheaper to the customer.... far superior to anything that NBN corp. can offer.

    Bonny
    You said above, that you hadn't been connected to the Libs stupid NBN, so the bells and whistles you speak of are mere advertising/propaganda. If you get better speeds you will be one of the lucky ones but your internet reliability will not change and may even get worse, if the nodes are not up to our Australian summers. Copper inhibits performance of the Libs NBN, especially in wet weather and the Nodes may cause even more hassles in summer heat because they need to be air-conditioned. Archaic, is the best word to describe this pathetic NBN.

    Nothing about the Libs NBN gives any hope of Australia's innovative technological future or its economic wellbeing. That is why this Singaporean Telco is GOOD NEWS, we may still be able to claw something back for AUSTRALIA.
    Fredklaus
    11th Aug 2015
    12:08pm
    nbn,18 months after start of laying cables in caboolture region,still no internet,local member has twice sent letters to us boasting about getting us nbn now telstra is saying maybe FEB,2016.Only alternative mobile which is very expensive.welcome some cheap alternatives,we are being screwed in Aus by Telstra & gov
    Lippy
    11th Aug 2015
    1:01pm
    Well after the elections, Sandstone Point should have been completed by 2014 before Caboolture, now Bribie Island and Caboolture should have been running from July 2015, but Wyatt Roy will not come out and say why the delay. Like his great leader Tony, EVERYTHING is all talk, action then shhhhhhhhhhh. I can say that Telstra staff on Bribie were told the same as you have been told, Feb2016 with Sandstone Point by June 2016. Just don't hold your breath please, it's just a political game these clowns are playing with the public and come next election, more big events will be mentioned (hahahaha)
    mIKER
    11th Aug 2015
    12:23pm
    As mentioned by previous correspondents the FTTN plan proposed by the LNP will not deliver the speeds of the service FTTP/H initiated by the Labor Government. Sadly Captain Abbott was intent on wrecking anything proposal by Labor and lacked any semblance of technical know-how to back his pick. Luckily Malcolm Turnbull managed to save the basic network, but he knows as well as anybody (when he isn’t wearing an LNP hat) that the current scheme is at best second rate.
    If for no other reason, we should tell Captain Abbott where to hide his FTTN pick at the next election and get back to a sensible and effective hi-speed delivery of fibre services to the premises.
    greatgolly
    11th Aug 2015
    12:30pm
    Since moving to Burpengary East, I have continually tried to gain any NBN information until a couple of weeks ago, stating basically, "Hell will freeze over before you will get the NBN!"; not polite I know, but after communicating with our MP, yes, that statement was backed up, and further communications with our server, they too, agree that hell will freeze over before we get the NBN! One telco actually asked my age and told me I would be long dead before getting the NBN, so I will have to suffer with ADSL+, won't I?
    dougie
    11th Aug 2015
    12:55pm
    Aint competition grand. Maybe this is the reason that Telstra just a couple of weeks ago sent me a message to say my downloads have been increased by 40gb per month at no extra cost. I doubted this but sure enough when my account arrived the variation had been added to my entitlement. All I need now is NBN to allow me to make use of this extra download. Coming to a place near me in November. Wacko!
    Susanne
    11th Aug 2015
    1:09pm
    Will it be compulsory to switch if not I have an unlimited download and pay nearly half as much with a reasonable speed by iprimus
    Golden Oldie
    11th Aug 2015
    4:18pm
    Yes, if you don't switch you will lose your current system in about 18 months after the NBN comes available to you home. The current system is switched off. This has already happened in some areas, and people are horrified to learn that they have lost their landline phone.

    11th Aug 2015
    1:15pm
    Competition is a very good thing, it not only helps promote cheaper prices but encourages the entrants to keep their game lifted in all respects to promote sales. Without competition the buyer is only subsidising a lacklustre, monopolistic, take-it-or-leave-it, devil-may-care, couldn't-care-less, shoddy, lazy, uninterested, organisation - just like our government.

    11th Aug 2015
    1:19pm
    Anyone know the take up for the high speeds available on NBN
    Lippy
    11th Aug 2015
    3:11pm
    Only the current government knows and they don't say too much. If you ask them, they will tell you anything to make you happy, but is it true???????
    By the way, they did revise the speed from a minimum 25Mbps to 12 Mbps but that is a secret which was published on ITWire site. Onya Malcolm.
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    8:23pm
    Lippy
    CLEVER you! Certainly not one of the easily conned.

    Those speeds are download speeds and what is essential to businesses is the upload speeds which are even more pathetic. It can take nearly a whole day to upload specific data to send overseas and then at the last minute lose the whole lot due to the archaic nature of the system.

    Australian businesses cannot compete with MOST of the world because of our internet system which severely hinders any competitive edge.

    Asia and many third world countries have BETTER internet than Australia and I am talking about WITH the Libs NBN..... how embarrassing!
    BrianP
    11th Aug 2015
    1:22pm
    Yes - we live in the WA country town of Bridgetown. We would certainly consider moving our internet plan to MyRepublic once services launch in Australia.

    At present we live in an estate developed 10 years ago with fibre-optic cable already in the street for internet. Just to show the lack of attention to detail Telstra wholesale, NBN and Government planners currently have, we cannot get fixed broadband or NBN here. Reason? - No more upgrades are being done to provide ports to connect. Also NBN will not cover our part of town.

    So we have to make do with the old wireless mobile internet. Expensive, unreliable and too few GB download to run our businesses. So far Government handling of NBN has been disastrous for us and many country town businesses. Bring on MyRepublic and more competition!!
    Cal
    11th Aug 2015
    1:57pm
    As a pensioner I too have explored the NBN- which is available by Fixed wireless- but at present think the price is too high. I am however being forced into it because my current speed is so slow since all the NBN cabling went in that I sometimes can't get log onto anything at all. One would almost think this is planned!
    Lippy
    11th Aug 2015
    2:37pm
    The NBN is available though many providers, not as I heard around Grafton NSW were Telstra set up a stand and wanted people to pre-register as they were the only company that could offer fixed wireless. Their monopoly days are long gone, but they try so hard to convince the public they are the one and only provider. We need competition and we have it.
    crazy one
    11th Aug 2015
    2:34pm
    Over the years the Government has stated that we need a better network but they turn around and say that they have no more money to continue so if they stop giving themselves pay rises we will have. It is god to hear that there is some one else that is coming here to apply some competition within this area and it should have been done a long time ago as every thing is getting out of hand so I say good luck to them and hope nothing stops them start up here.
    GeeDub
    11th Aug 2015
    2:41pm
    Have I seriously missed something here? What 'network' (line facility) is this proposed new mob going to use? If it's the current part-mess then how can they offer better performance over what exists - which 'we' all seem to think is pretty shabby? And, if this isn't what they are to use ...then?
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    8:39pm
    The Libs NBN is costing +$100b whereas the Labor (FAR FAR SUPERIOR) NBN was cost audited at $37b to every household in Australia. Labor's NBN would pay itself off and then make a profit for the govt. by the year 2034. Yes, the Libs have GROSSLY mismanaged the whole internet proposal and provided Australia with an archaic, useless NBN system (other countries are pulling this system out and putting in Labor's NBN).

    The Singaporean Telco, is obviously going to do this slower than Labor was, expanding gradually throughout Australia AND are taking a typical LONG term profit making view. Indonesia and New Zealand are providing them with profits right now and so will Australia, eventually.

    I am so used to US style megacorps, raiding countries and taking their wealth, that this corporation appears to be an unusual phenomenon. So I looked them up and it appears that they are NOT one of the top heavy and bloated with oligopoly billions type megacorp in the telstra industry but a new smaller but faster and cleverer corporation who has a different view of the market and is simply DOING IT! The bloated oligopolies are that slow that they are still sitting back thinking that they will prevail whilst doing nothing but rake in their billions.
    oztru
    11th Aug 2015
    9:05pm
    Yes, I agree GeeDub. How will MyRepublic attain these speeds if they are using the mishmash currently on offer with FTTN?
    Anonymous
    12th Aug 2015
    2:25am
    oztru

    They are NOT using the Libs NBN to nodes. They will be laying their own fibre to the PREMISES. My previous comment does explain how they can do that.
    Biddy
    11th Aug 2015
    3:29pm
    I to have asked my provider for connection to the NBN it has been in my area for sometime and when I queried the price I was told it would cost me in the sum of $179.00 up front to have it put on,I have had broadband and bought my own equimpent but pay $39.90 per month for unlimited usage,I have stayed with the broadband because being on a pension the intonal up front payment deterred me some,I would welcome anyone or company that can undercut the Governments NBN,I have been advised that the NBN was free by many people but everyone whom I have asked in the telecommunication side want to charge me the total amount I have stated,if there is to be another company come in to Australia then maybe I should wait as I have heard that the NBN is not that crash hot after all so if the FTTP/H plan is better then maybe I should wait,like everything this Government touches turns out to be crap anyway so why is this NBN going to be any different,should I wait and see what happens before signing up
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    8:44pm
    Biddy

    Do wait because the NBN proposed by this new Singaporean Telco is FAR FAR superior and is based upon the NBN set up and partially installed by Labor before the current idiots canned it. It is fibre to the premises.... no copper, no nodes and way faster speeds and reliability. Best of all, it will be cheaper!

    The Libs NBN was crap and antiquated before they even suggested it and at a cost of TRIPLE that of Labor's brilliant NBN, it is as per the norm a total fiasco for Australia.
    neil
    11th Aug 2015
    5:49pm
    Bring it on FAST. Unless you live in a major capital city the internet is crap in Australia compared to most other countries when using wireless modems and the cost is TOO high and downloads are soo limited as in monthly plans. Optus had a reasonable plan until about 12 months ago, $3 per day unlimited now no unlimited plans for wireless on any provider, as usual they all do much the same, BORING
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    8:58pm
    neil

    The Libs NBN is total rubbish and will not help a lot with those in outer areas. In fact it could be worse than the current ADSL+. The Libs NBN will still be unreliable and unstable and the speeds pathetic and the costs of it will be higher than they should be - because their disgustingly inept NBN system cost TRIPLE that of the FAR FAR SUPERIOR Labor's NBN which the Libs closed down. Cancelling Labor's NBN contracts cost millions and millions alone AND for absolutely nothing but a USELESS outdated and in fact antiquated system that has put Australia 20 years behind the rest of the world. Labor's NBN would have put Australia 20 years AHEAD of the world and thereby assist with Australia's innovation and technological future, ensuring a better economic future for all Australians. Particularly as the Labor's top of the world NBN would have gone to every Australian premise, either private or business. No child would miss out and every new premises would be required to be connected.

    11th Aug 2015
    6:50pm
    Whoop Whoop Whoopee.....

    No way will I go with the Liberals absolute shite NBN, so I will definitely be going with the Singaporean Telco.

    No Australian owes anything to the NBN or the Liberals who sold out Australia simply to give Murdoch a little extra time to get his Foxtel rubbish in order, by cancelling all Labor's TOP of the RANGE NBN (at reasonable rates) and putting in a PATHETICALLY USELESS NBN at TRIPLE the cost (over $100b - refused to get costings audited) of Labor's NBN ($37b - costings audited).

    I am as pleased as punch. Ordinary Australians will be able to afford Labor's NBN, instead of just the select few.

    Re: the question "Australia will suffer with an internet benchmark speed of only 50 Mbps?" Firstly, NOT many people will get anywhere near that speed and MANY will have speeds that are less that what they have already under ADSL 2+. Besides the unreliability of the Libs CRAP NBN, the very, very slow speed of 50Mbps is ridiculous and USELESS if Australia is going to expand and grow economically. Not only that, there is no ability to UPGRADE and increase that bulldust speed (MOST ordinary consumers will be on 25Mbps and less). The amount of money they have paid to Telstra for the 100 year old copper that is terribly degraded AND the amount they are paying each year to have Telstra maintain that copper is unbelievable and is NOT part of the $100billion that has been estimated for the Libs crock of shite NBN. The Libs NBN is way, way out of date and not being upgradable is already past its use by date.

    Unbelievably ecstatic that the Libs pathetic but exorbitantly expensive NBN will go down before it gets a chance to get going.

    My ONLY dislike is that with LABOR'S NBN, Australia would have had a UNIFORM TOP of the (international) RANGE NBN that had INCREDIBLE SPEEDS, the whole system and speeds UPGRADABLE and IMPORTANTLY, it would have been Australian and available to EVERY Australian. Every child would have had access and not just those children of the wealthy and well off.

    The NBN is and has been the cause of my deep disgust of the LIBERAL Govt. who were falling over themselves to sell out this nations future just to appease Murdoch and other (mostly foreign) megacorps. That is why Abbott (the maggot), was called on to topple Turnbull (the turncoat), who at that time, was backing Labor's NBN.
    mountainman
    11th Aug 2015
    8:04pm
    There pushing nbn wireless in the bush which I purchased thought this would be a lot faster than ADLS 2 put to my surprise it probably comes up equally so whats the point of wasting money installing it
    Anonymous
    11th Aug 2015
    8:49pm
    You got it in one mountainman. Another example of how disgustingly inept and useless this current federal govt is. They are selling out Australia so fast there will be little left and only two years have elapsed which is unbelievably treasonous, in my humble opinion.
    Young Simmo
    11th Aug 2015
    10:39pm
    Well Mussitate is back, I was under impression you were away being treated for your MRWL, problems. Normally that takes a life time to get over, how did you get out so quickly? OK, the penny has dropped, and the doctor has decided that in your case it is unrepairable.
    Fortunately most normal people will just ignore your dribble.
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    Mentally Retarded Attitude With Liberals.
    Anonymous
    12th Aug 2015
    3:01am
    Young Simmo

    Aaarrrhhh! my favourite 'little' person. How the hell are you simple simmo.

    Still docking that wee brain of yours at the door I see.

    By all means simple simmo, just support a government who is so UNAustralian and so INEPT as to flog off this country to foreign megacorps, mismanage the budget and to support corruptive practices. Who instal a USELESS NBN which is antiquated, SLOW, unreliable and makes Australia a laughing stock in the tech world and BEHIND even some third world countries.

    A govt. WHO's ONLY expertise is seen to be in their ability to genuflect and bend over for the leashholders of those megacorps..... the big boys.

    Now onto the more serious stuff.... do try hard to keep up and take at least some of it in dear thing.

    I did vote Liberal my simple simmo but actually used my faculties and recognised good governance from the abhorrently inept governance.

    The previous Labor govt I noted were particularly astute and rather brilliant in what they did for Australia during the GFC (best economy in the world; most egalitarian; first time AAA credit rating; first time currency included in international bag of currencies; etc) and I had the good sense to recognise that.

    This current Liberal govt is the worst of the worst and is merely the mouth piece of mostly foreign mega corporations. Hence, the implementation of Corporate wish lists as policies without any regard to their effects on Australia right now OR in the future. The total mismanagement of the budget and Australia's financial standing, is a significant hint, simple simmo.

    These corporate wish lists mainly require the average Australian to foot even more of the tax burden and receive less of the benefits, whilst those mega corporations get to pay less taxes and encouraged to expunge Australian Assets and suck out bucket loads (billions) of OUR wealth for themselves.

    Yes, simple simmo, I DO disregard this govt but not because they are LIBERAL but because they are inept to such an extent that I consider them criminal. This govt have little regard for this country or its average citizen and are there to simply fill their greedy big pockets.

    I have left some pain killers on your table simple simmo, that should help with the terrible headache you have from actually using your brain for a change. IF I go back to see they have not been used, I will know that (once again) you have FAILED to engage your brain and have forgotten which door you clocked your brain at.... sheez!
    Young Simmo
    12th Aug 2015
    11:45am
    Aah BOB_EACH WAY Mussitate, does that make you feel better.
    briand0
    11th Aug 2015
    10:45pm
    As a pensioner, i am worried about the nbn coming to the fraser coast hinterland. we don't have any smart phones so we rely on the copper, at the moment there are towers being built to supply us with some communications, but when the copper is turned off we will have no phone at all. we have tried satellite internet, but that was slower than dialup so we went to telstra who tell us on a speed test that we have 7mbps download when in reality there is only 116kbps on our adsl2 line. there must be a way to keep the copper boiling.
    oztru
    12th Aug 2015
    12:24pm
    Join the club briand0, we're also in that area and have satellite internet. I hadn't heard that they were turning off the copper. Are you sure that's correct?
    Young Simmo
    11th Aug 2015
    10:56pm
    Yeh briand0, we are in a similar situation here in Carnarvon, our old copper wires meander across the Gascoyne River and our service changes from good to horrible a dozen times a day.

    13th Aug 2015
    10:19am
    FEWER than one in four consumers who have signed up to get the internet over the National Broadband Network are on the fastest, most expensive packages.

    Executives at the government monopoly rolling out the super-fast internet will include the figures in presentations on their half-year financial results today.

    The NBN Co will also confirm that, as at December,
    19 per cent of users in fixed-line areas had taken up the service that lets them download at 100 megabits-per-second and upload at 40Mbps; and 4 per cent are on a 50/20 plan. About 38 per cent are on the cheapest, slowest, 12/1 service.

    The speed tiers are important to the NBN Co’s business case as customers on higher-speed plans pay more.
    GregB
    13th Aug 2015
    12:04pm
    Nobody could be worst than Telstra. They are the worst organization I have ever had to deal with. Service is just non-existant and they just don't care. I will certainly look closely at any new entrant.

    13th Aug 2015
    4:23pm
    Why does it take a foreign company to offer competition to a Govt monopoly .. Because Labor payed out billions to Telstra and Optus to not compete and for them to leave there fibre in the ground unused...

    15th Aug 2015
    6:04pm
    mussitate, you obliviously have forgotten the mess the previous labor government left us, for you to even suggest they could do the NBN cheaper than the present government, that has to be the biggest joke ever and to state that they, labor, would make a profit with the NBN in years to come, hallo, are they not the party who promised us, the taxpayers of Australia that every year while in government they would have a surplus, swanny stated this every time with a straight face as he gave us his labor budget, result a 300 billion deficit in less then six years, a first in Australian history and which our kids grandkids still be paying back, all I can advise You. go back to your backyard and play with your fairies, may be they can rectify your labor induced thinking !
    Anonymous
    24th Aug 2015
    7:39pm
    heemskerk99
    WHAT MESS!!! You obviously read Murdoch's rags ONLY..... all bulldust, misdirection and ambiguities designed specifically to mislead and confuse.

    Under the previous Labor Govt. Australia was proclaimed the BEST (yes, BEST) ECONOMY in the WORLD; gained AAA credit rating - first time ever; had its currency included in the international mix - first time ever; was joint WORLD best as the most EGALITARIAN in the world; and WAIT FOR IT mateee, we also had one of the LOWEST govt. DEBT in the world!!!!

    NEXT.... NBN.....
    The massively superior and STATE of the ART Labor NBN was costed and AUDITED to be $37-$40b all up to connect the whole of Australia.

    The Libs PIECE OF RUBBISH NBN will come in at $100b which the Libs refused to get AUDITED and this exorbitant amount does NOT include the EXTRA POWER (equivalent to TWO power stations) COST that is necessary to air-condition the stupid NODES required on every BLOCK AND does NOT include the cost of BUYING the 100year old COPPER from Telstra NOR the cost of maintaining that COPPER for the future years!!!!!

    So YES, Labor's NBN is far, far superior at a mere quarter of the cost of the Libs useless, out of date, unable to be upgraded RUBBISH NBN...FACT!

    Now on to your other STUPID other statement.... of course Labor's NBN would produce a profit AFTER paying for the NBN by approx. the year 2034... FACT..... whereas the Libs NBN would NEVER repay the cost of their NBN for THREE reasons:
    - it costs a lot, lot, lot more;
    - it is antiquated already so will not be of any use... errhhhh RIGHT NOW; and
    - the way ANY NBN was to make money was through SPEEDS and embarrassingly, the Libs NBN way to SLOW, SLOW, SLOW!!!!!!!!

    It is the speeds of the Labor NBN that will make money..... the Labor NBN could go as fast as current technology will allow it and is able to handle a great deal more speeds, as soon as our technology catches up. THAT is where the money comes in... if you want these incredible speeds, you pay for them. DUH!

    NOW.......on to the DEFICIT.....
    Under Labor, Australia had one of the LOWEST govt DEBTs in the WORLD duh!!!! The Libs have TRIPLED that DEBT... which suggests you should leave yourself alone for awhile in order to allow time for your brain to eeerrrrhhhh THINK!

    EVEN whilst Labor was able to keep the GOVT DEBT LOW, it was still able to give the little people HUGE tax cuts to counteract the carbon tax (income tax lower limit - amount that NO tax was paid on, went from $6000 to $18200 which was massive savings for the people); Labor could also look after pensioners, disabled, & unemployed; and revive the economy, and keep small businesses healthy and hence the economy.

    Not only that, Australia's WEALTH was SPREAD OUT among the people, instead of being HANDED to the FILTHY RICH (the USA has 1% owning 90% of the wealth which is disgusting and is the cause of the USA being brought down to its knees).

    You, heemskerk99, really do need to full your head out of your b*cks*de and THINK!
    rmks
    24th Aug 2015
    6:09pm
    The prices in the article dont sound that cheap. What data limits will there be? and who cares if a page takes a few seconds to load?
    Anonymous
    24th Aug 2015
    7:48pm
    Why pay $100b ++++ for a system that is antiquated, slow and out of date and is nearly as slow as what we currently have. NOT only THAT but the slowness of the internet cripples Australia's businesses, innovation and international dealings.

    The Libs NBN will STILL NOT allow business to UPLOAD their designs, projects or proposals to international contenders reliably, quickly and easily...... it can take up to a whole day sometimes and if there is a hiccup (which is likely with the use of 100 year old copper), you would have to start all over again.

    Innovation - speeds and reliability are essential if we are to extend medical knowhow and assistance to country hospitals, to young interns, universities. The young need speeds and reliability to enable the creation of future designs and new technology and develop science scenarios, etc, etc.

    The CRAP being dished up by the Libs NBN, may give their (foreign) megacorp mates lots and lots of OUR money to put in their pockets BUT it is CRIPPLING Australia's future and very way of life!!!
    RichF
    26th Sep 2015
    4:15pm
    If you live out of a major city BUT reasonably close to a small town, you could always try Virgin Mobile Broadband. We have two computers so we bought two dongles and have separate accounts. The dongles cost about $50 each but once you've got them that's the end of your capital cost. If you don't use the net much then a yearly sub is your best bet - - $150 for 10gig. You can do an awful lot with that amount of download provided you aren't into nicking films from the rightful owners or watching porn by the mile. So that works out to something between $300 (minimum) to our present (this twelve month) total of $450 between us. Did I mention that that $150 we each pay has a 'life' of 365 days. That's right...not a month. Not three months but an entire year to use it up. Sure it's a lot slower than whatever flavour of NBN you choose. It's slower than ADSL2. It isn't even as quick as plain vanilla ADSL, but as we can't get any of the above because all lines and DSLAMS have been used up and NO MORE will be installed we are stuck with mobile or dial up. Ah! There's something that's even slower than what we have. We win at last.
    Malcom Turnbull
    16th Dec 2015
    6:31pm
    Ok, so everyone hates me.. boohhoo :( I did manage to find a cheaper, faster and more affordable plan for my mum though, its only $25 per month, see http://nbnsp.com.au/pensioners/