153 asylum seekers remain at sea

The Federal Government is refusing to comment on the fate of the 153 people.

153 asylum seekers remain at sea

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has refused to comment on the fate of 153 south Asian asylum seekers being held at sea by Australian authorities until the current court case has been resolved. Of those detained on the boat, more than half are believed to have come from a Tamil refugee camp in southern India. Under Indian law, if the refugees left India by illegal means, the country cannot accept them back.

Acting on behalf of refugee advocates and the Tamil Association, solicitor George Newhouse has sought to protect the 153 people claiming to be Tamil refugees. 41 Sri Lankan asylum seekers were returned by Australia to Sri Lanka on Monday.

''What I'm saying is that any other ventures that are the subject of matters before the Australian courts are matters that we will address in those courts and we have always maintained a very strong process for how we manage communications regarding our operations,'' Mr Morrison said.

''That communication protocol has been put in place by Lieutenant-General Campbell, who heads the joint agency taskforce in Australia that has command over these matters. As the minister of the government, I'm going to adhere to those protocols because they have been very important to the success of those operations.'' Mr Morrison said.

''And to the various obligations that we have under the various conventions of which we are a signatory to and the Australian Government rejects any suggestions that we have acted contrary to any of those obligations that we have,'' Mr Morrison said.

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Opinion: Return to sender

If the speculation rings true, the Australian Government are looking to send the 153 Tamil asylum seekers back into the hands of their persecutors. Judging by the actions of the Government on Monday in handing over 41 Sri Lankan asylum seekers, it’s safe to assume a similar approach will be taken with the 153 currently being held.

This Coalition Government, a government I and a majority of Australians voted for, has reached a new low over the past week in their handling of this situation. The lack of information provided to the voters of Australia is appalling. To suggest that operations could be compromised by disclosing information is hard to believe and the suggestion of sending asylum seekers back into the hands of those they are fleeing is disgusting.

Regardless of whether the 153 asylum seekers arrived in our waters, we have an obligation to ensure they are returned to a safe environment and if that can’t occur, re-located appropriately.

What do you think? Should the government be providing the public with more information on the matter? Should the 153 asylum seekers be returned to the country from which they fled? 





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    btony
    10th Jul 2014
    10:06am
    just tell em what we want em to know, and we'll hide the rest.
    If youre hiding something , youre doing something wrong, illegal or unsavoury.
    What else can you expect?
    The Sri Lankans said these boaties came from the refugee camps in India, why send the back to Sri Lanka?
    btony
    10th Jul 2014
    10:07am
    them
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:34pm
    (Supposed) refugees is a real nation dividing issue.
    On the one hand you have the Sarah Hanson Youngs and ambulance chasing lawyers who push a morose and twisted face in front of the cameras and bleet emotional gah gah stuff hoping to achieve a open gate policy without thinking about the consequences. The result is an ever growing number of ECONOMIC refugees rorting the system.
    On the other hand you have those who understand that a nation cannot have an open gate policy as there are already no jobs for locals and we also import almost everything to sustain the nation. It is common sense.
    So there we have the two sides with governments inbetween. Good luck!!
    nightie
    12th Jul 2014
    5:38am
    maybe I have been misled but aren't the tamils terrorists? They don't seem to care that their families have put very young children on the boat..........I just think that they should go through the official channels and apply through the UNHCR once refugee status is approved..........why is it that they never seem to have passports, particularly when they come from a second country to their original country............
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    8:52am
    Yes the Tamil Tigers are terrorists like ISIS and are responsible for nearly 100,000 deaths. The Tamil Tigers recruited children and killed civilians. They staged a revolution and lost. Now Sarah Hanson Young and her labor mates want some may all of them to come here. Maybe they can train in the desert?
    Adrianus
    14th Jul 2014
    6:52am
    btony, the story about them coming from India was a furphy. Possibly a ruse by the smugglers and promulgated by the ABC. India will not take back refugees once they leave. It has now been revealed that these "refugees" were coming to Australia to seek work.

    10th Jul 2014
    10:07am
    Well if you feel that bad OPEN your home to 6 of these folks, and others can do the same.... put these folks and families up..... you can convert your garage to living space, add new toilets. Now that's an answer......ALL who disagree with the Govt just open your homes. Let your Federal member know that instead of returning these boat people or sending them to some detention center, that YOU have your home open and will pick them up from the closest point of entry.... come on now...go for it. Some of you may have spare rooms since your children have moved out...IT'S a great thing you can do and it puts these boat people straight into the community...GO ON NOW CONTACT CANBERRA with the offer... a wonderful gesture...and tell the Govt you will pick up all costs.
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:19pm
    Well said PIXAPD....... if the Greens and all the goodie-two-shoes want to help these people who are trying to enter our Country ILLEGALLY, then they can house them AND pay for them!

    We can't believe the BILLIONS of $$$$ that have been wasted on these people and on overseas aid, when we have SO many AUSTRALIANS in desperate need of a home and financial assistance.

    It's time we told the world the we are FULL and look after our own people and the immigrants that arrived here LEGALLY.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:36pm
    This is the issue which killed off the last government. I contacted Wayne Swan, the world's greatest treasurer, 12 months before the election to tell him that his government was going to be voted out if they did not fix this problem. Swan being Swan ignored the advice.
    minnie
    10th Jul 2014
    2:39pm
    Pixapd, you're behind the times many many people have said since the Howard years they'd open their homes to Asylum Seekers while their applications were processed and beyond. I have great difficulty that people in this country have been so brainwashed to think it's illegal to seek asylum and it's NOT! Did you also think it was a good idea to give the jews back to the Nazi's?
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:48pm
    'Did you also think it was a good idea to give the jews back to the Nazi's?' <<<< ONLY A LOW PIECE OF WORK WOULD SAY THAT COMMENT
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    3:55pm
    mick he ignored you because it is secretly their policy to encourage the boats. The ALP want us to believe they had lost control over our borders and at least 50,000 so called refugees had arrived while at least 1200 didn't make it and were lost at sea. I'm confused because surely they cannot be that useless? Can they? Meanwhile Chris Bowen was telling us the immigration figure of 20,000 could not be increased. When pressed by the interviewer retorted "because we simply cannot afford it." This morning I ran into an Indian friend I had not seen for a year. He is still waiting for his son. Was told 4 years ago he will be here soon, soon.... 50,000 had jumped ahead of him. ALP floated the idea of asking them to pay $50,000 and Australian Government would fly them here. If you have $50,000 how badly off are you? really?
    robin hood
    10th Jul 2014
    6:16pm
    GOOD ON YOU PIXAPD BET THEY WONT WANT ANY COMING IN NOW..ALL THESE DO GOODERS
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    6:32pm
    Spot on PIXAPD
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:33pm
    Strewth !! This is Better than Watching Beavus and Butt Head !! Keep it up !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    6:36pm
    Yes sir, captain Peacock.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:43pm
    Is that Necessary Mr Humphries ?? Put that Away !!
    Aussiefrog
    10th Jul 2014
    6:59pm
    Pixapd you're right on the ball and Minnie shame on you to make such a statement!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:13pm
    Ill ask Mrs Slocum.:)
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:16pm
    Humphreys had His Pink Tie caught in His Fly !!!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:39pm
    Ask for Grainger. he sees really well.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:41pm
    OH !! I see the Problem !! Mr Lucas is good at releasing those things !!
    lasaboy
    11th Jul 2014
    12:51am
    Minnie, get your head in the game, they are not legal asylum seekers, they have tried to enter the country illegally, and have been caught in the act, the guys I feel sorry for are the legal ones who are left in limbo while our courts are caught up while these cue jumpers have their day in court.
    Oars
    11th Jul 2014
    7:24am
    Oh yes well said Pixa too true. But you forgot the policing bit. Since these local doo-gooders are going to pay for these illegals, then do they pay for the added police that will be needed to control their imported crime too? We will be a nation of garage crime stoppers. That could become a new TV series- so who gets the filming rights? The whole thing is RIDICULOUS, and unrealistic.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    3:00pm
    I think Crawford Productions has gone now ?? They would have loved that one ..
    MATLOCK VIGINTEES !!, COP SH*T !!, SOLO 457 !!, STUN GUN ONE !!,......

    10th Jul 2014
    10:13am
    The GOVT can start the Asylum Seeker Carer Scheme, where they pay folks an amount to OPEN their homes, saves the cost of detention and gets them into the community.
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:48pm
    YES! Take the names of all those people who want them here and THEY can house them, feed them and look after them for 10 years.

    Better still, see if they want to start up an exchange deal. LOL
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    4:35pm
    PIX..How much is Carers Pay ?? My Chook Shed is Empty at the moment, room for a Dozen or so nice and Cuddly they will feel at Home like on the Boat !! .. Itll beat picking up Cans on the side of the road !! And the Layers Pellet Bin is still Half Full, so Tucker wont be a Problem for a while !!
    robin hood
    10th Jul 2014
    6:19pm
    AND WHAT ARE THEY LETTING IN??? THE GUY WHO STABBED ANOTHER GUY IN SYDNEY THIS WEEK CAME IN ON A BOAT FROM IRAN!!!! DOESNT THAT MAKE PEOPLE THINK TWICE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE LETTING IN???
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:47pm
    Robin... I didn't DARE Mention that Earlier in Fear of a Race Riot !!!..
    Friar Tuck...
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    8:43am
    One only has to pick up the papers and almost on a daily basis there is a shooting, or a crime of some sort and you dont have to be Einstein to know the backgrounds of most of them.

    We have enough home grown crooks without importing them.
    This country has been seen as a "soft touch" until the current goverment got into power. They are doing what they said they would do "stop the people smuggling" The are trying their best but the Greens etc are doing their utmost to thwart them.

    I have no problem at all with refugees coming into this country but they have to be properly vetted. People can say anything and most arrivals do not have paperwork of any kind and it is extremely difficult for their claims to be verified.
    Gee Whiz
    10th Jul 2014
    10:17am
    Just because Scott Morison refuses to comment on illegal immigrants doesn't mean they shouldn't be sent back to where they come from. if they're trying to come in the back door send them back.

    These people aren't refuges anyway. Some are wearing gold Rolex's, have credit cards, and mobile phones. On top of that they pay up $10,000 to a people smuggler.

    I haven't got any time for the Abbott government, but credit where credit is due, they have stopped the boats.

    And lets face it the only reason these people want to get into Australia is they have heard of Centrelink and all the freebies the Aussie taxpayer gives them.

    If they are genuine immigrants let them go through the same formal application process as thousands of other people have to do.
    Rob
    10th Jul 2014
    10:27am
    Yes it marvelous how they manage to bypass countries in an effort to get to Australia. Rudd and Gillard have a lot to answer for.

    We seem to be having a spate of "attempted suicides" at Christmas Island - If I was cynical I would suggest it is solely about publicity?
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    10:44am
    Maybe if Pensioners here all said they are going to suicide unless they get a RISE...be interesting....LOL
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    11:16am
    Never see members of the Sri Lanka cricket team seeking asylum when they come here...wonder why that is?.......mmmmmmmm
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:26pm
    Yes, Australia is seen as a complete PUSHOVER.....we are scoffed at by other countries overseas and seen as a complete joke.

    It's an embarrassment to call yourself an Australian, these days.

    Just visit your local Centrelink office and watch what happens there. You can play "spot the Aussie" for some amusement.

    It's appalling that senior Australians and those with a disability are left to stand in a queue, whilst the foreigners are pulled out of the queue and given priority treatment, instead of waiting their turn like the rest of us.

    AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:39pm
    I'm not too sure that so called assylum seekers (economic refugees) have credit cards and Rolex watches Gee Wiz. But more importantly what they don't have is PASSPORTS, which they are told to throw overboard so that the Australian government cannot easilt process them. This should indeed result in swift return to point of departure.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:19pm
    I agree with everything you've said, I don't have any time for Abbott either but at least he's stopping the boards. I find it appalling that they have access to the Australian legal system at taxpayers expense. If the blackmailing women with children are threatening to kill themselves so their children can stay here they should be told that their orphans will be returned to Sri Lanka. And why a boatload of women and children? The sympathy ploy ? Once they are in bring the rest of the relatives in later, Were full!
    Judy in the hills
    10th Jul 2014
    10:22am
    In my "ignorance" I had always pictured refugees as being extremely poor and probably poorly fed, very poorly clothed and also probably not at all well, in severe need of refuge, etc. But really modern refugees seem to arrive with the latest in mobile phones, have neatly cut hair, modern western style clothing often, and they look generally very fit and well cared for. We see worse sights amongst our Australian young and old on the streets. It just doesn't add up to me. The world is currently full of people trying to move to a so called better country - what about staying and fighting for their own country, for what they want their own countries to become. Most countries of the world have had to do this in some form.
    Rob
    10th Jul 2014
    10:28am
    Well said
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    10:45am
    Why change their own country when they can BLUDGE off another ? in most countries if ALL the people rise up against a brutal Govt they can pull it down, Or send in the USA and they can bugger it up good and proper
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:30pm
    Well said, Judy. They are not poor, they are not victimised or downtrodden.... they are just coming here FOR A BETTER LIFE.

    Well, we want a better life in Fiji..... so seriously thinking about applying for Asylum there. That's fair, isn't it? Our Govt doesnt want to look after us, despite living here all our lives and paying taxes, so we might as well go live somewhere else, cos Australia has gone down the gurgler.
    tia-maria
    10th Jul 2014
    1:51pm
    Also well said Judy,But remember these asylum seekers know very well their given the royal treatment, and they play on this???........medicial/clothing/meals/tv/mobil phones computers/ etc........Even More so better treatment than many Taxpayers of Australia who work hard..............I asked myself why shold the Asylum seeker received such from our government.after all their breaking our laws coming in by the boat loads
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:51pm
    GURGLE ! GURGLE !! GURGLE !!!
    soph
    10th Jul 2014
    10:26am
    If they return these people back to Sri Lanka, it will be the last straw as far as I'm concerned. And yet, will I condemn them to a life in a detention camp? I know I will am going to try as hard as I can to remove this government from power at the next election.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    10:48am
    YOU must be quick and give the GOVT your solution to this problem...we all await your plan....
    Abby
    10th Jul 2014
    11:29am
    Mr Carr the former Labour foreign Minister said the Labor government returned a boatload of Sri Lankan asylum-seekers about August 2012, none of whom were treated inhumanely. Rather, they were interviewed and then released.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    11:51am
    Yes they get released then seek out another boat for another $5000 or whatever the cost. Some fellow interviewed on TV said he keeps trying, he must have lots of money
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    11:54am
    I mean if we had a border with some country and folks there were getting tortured and beheaded.... we wouldn't wait for refugees to cross our border, rather we'd be in there getting them out..... BUT these boat people seem to be quite rich and not real refugees
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:41pm
    You might like to read my posts above soph. It is not an easy problem to solve.

    10th Jul 2014
    10:35am
    On the other hand these asylum seekers pay BIG MONEY so they are not as poor as they make out, how many have tried and failed then try again and each time they pay. A minefield would solve the problem and when a boat hits a mine it can be considered to be FATE. Should a boat get through the minefield that too is FATE and they get asylum...that seems a FAIR way to go about it.
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:38pm
    We should just do as Japan does.... seeing as we are all buddy-buddy with them again.

    Japan does not accept Asylum seekers AT ALL. I think they are pretty damn smart.

    I love the Italians, Greeks and Vietnamese that came here to make a new life. But I object to all the others that want to inflict us with their problems, their religions and their scummy way of life.

    They have no respect for our Country or our way of life (well the one we had). They expect handouts and a cushy lifestyle, when they have paid no taxes or helped in any way or form to contribute to the infrastructure that we have in Australia.

    But they don't mind clogging up our hospitals and our roads, buying up our businessess, pushing into our Communities and telling us what to do.

    What a nerve! I bet we wouldn't be able to do the same in the countries that they came from.
    Tom Tank
    10th Jul 2014
    3:12pm
    Actually Japan does take Asylum Seekers, not many at the moment but the numbers are building.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:11pm
    Why only last week they took one, and in six months time will most probably take another Two !!
    biddi
    10th Jul 2014
    9:32pm
    I believe Japan has Korean refugees. Also, not appreciated
    tj
    10th Jul 2014
    11:01am
    Maybe we should just appreciate the fact that there are not people drowning at sea like hundreds before.Just let the govt.get on with the job that they said they was going to do and remember these boat people are ECONOMIC refugees,not at all refugees in the true sense of the word.Would be nice if the media and the hysterical Sarah Hansen-Young took this into account

    10th Jul 2014
    11:05am
    Let's all get into a boat and sail off the SRI LANKA...will we get accepted...mmmmmm....into a PRISON most likely..what NO payments either.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:42pm
    A sobering comment PIXAPD. I wonder if Sarah Hanson Young is aware. Maybe send her a suggestion.
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:53pm
    Sarah Hanson Young needs a wake-up call. How can you be so naive, yet get into politics???

    No doubt it is the pension that she knows she will get when she retires that gives her so much confidence and arrogance.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    2:58pm
    Aly ..Of coarse it is ! they are Economic Politicians Nowadays !!.... Pretend I Care !! A few Years here and I can Retire for life, Cigar and a Nice Red Forever !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    6:38pm
    Cigar and a nice red, you not talking about Joe and Matty are you.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:03pm
    NO !!! ALL OF THEM !!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:05pm
    They Belong in the Actors Guild !!..
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:15pm
    Mick Sarah is always airware.
    Abby
    12th Jul 2014
    8:04am
    Sarah Young is in Politics for the same reason as the the rest of the Pollies for the perks and the salary and to entertain us in Parliament with her crocodile tears at drop of the hat.
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    9:11am
    *Abby, I'm not so sure that Sarah Hanson-Young or her hard left mates are that stupid? I suspect something more sinister at play. We should be concerned about the Greens motives. Where do asylum seekers get the money to pay the people smugglers?
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    9:17am
    From the Aid Money sent to Colombo ..Like any other Aid receiving Country !!
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    9:23am
    Is that what happened to the $400m Gillard sent to Indonesia?
    Wasaherebelieveitornot
    10th Jul 2014
    11:12am
    What I find hard here is that the real refugee going thru the correct channels like the Red Cross etc will suffer because of these illegals, also I wonder living in the western suburbs of Melbourne and watch (illegal or legal) immigrants picking their many children up from schools or shopping centre in cars and SUVs I will not even afford if I sold my house. I did actual sell my home to one of these people in another state and their rudeness and lack of manners to other does nothing for the Australian way of life or values it was a small town and the common dislike for these people was unbelievable consider there were quite a few poor immigrants live in the town that got a lot of support from the locals


    On the illegal boat people I see it that you have two choices, believe the government most people voted in ( I believe the better choice). Or the Australian press which have more hidden genders than any government, they are only interest in selling papers or TV time they have been proven to be totally dishonest if it suits their needs, headlines mean everything to them and don't let the truth get in the way.

    Tell those countries that we give big donations to that very illegal that leaves their country by what ever means Australia will deduct the cost of dealing with them from that country donation, then it would not cost us tax payers any more.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    11:25am
    That's right..... we give foreign aid to some countries that do nothing about boat people coming from them....stop aid to those countries and they'll soon tow the line.

    CHARITY begins at home..........
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:44pm
    Indonesia gets a motza and the hide of this regime is that it wanted its boat people trade on top of our foreign aid....which is likely to have provided weapons for the INdonesian military. So why give aid like this??????
    Sparkles
    10th Jul 2014
    11:14am
    I know these people want our lifestyle but so does most of the world. So why are they more special than all the others? It is impossible to take everyone just because they want to be here. Send them back and make them get on the queue
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    11:17am
    correct........there are NO SHORT CUTS
    Leo
    10th Jul 2014
    12:20pm
    I cannot believe that this Minister has the public to answer to who have given him the privilege of having a job in the Parliament and yet he keeps every thing from the people. He should be sacked or told to tell the people that elected him by the so called Prime Minister.
    tj
    10th Jul 2014
    12:27pm
    HI could you repost that so it makes sense
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:47pm
    The previous government gave regular updates....and was savaged with the information. This government has lied about everything since before it was elected so don't expect it not treat the public with the same contempt as it governs.
    Australians need to see what they were conned into electing. A good lesson. I just hope that next time round they vote for Independents so that both sides get the scare they need to fix up their corruption and deceit.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:32pm
    Libs are now Recruiting Heaps of Pretend Independents !! There !! That should take care of that little Plot !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:20pm
    tj, you kiddin, this site aint got enough room.
    sri lankan jaffna tamil
    10th Jul 2014
    12:27pm
    I think, we Australians are clueless when it comes to Sri Lanka.
    Sri Lanka is now a peacefull country when it comes to ethnic problems . Yes, there are a few flareups. I got family in Sri Lanka (Colombo), They are in there 50s and 60s. They are all happy and wont dream of getting on a boat OR coming to Australia.
    Most of the Sri Lanka businesses in Colombo are run by Tamils who left Jaffna because of the tamil tigers.
    Please go there on a holiday. The Australian $ is about Sri Lankan Rs 125. See for your self. I make it a point to go there at least once a year.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:49pm
    Thank you for the information. I was unaware. This puts the some of the lies in the media into perspective, but then the media has a reputation of never letting the facts get in the way of a good story.
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    5:08pm
    Especially the ABC. They appear to be so anti government they will say and do anything to make them look bad.
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    5:27pm
    sri Lankan Jaffna tamil , I have to agree with you. We are clueless about Sri Lanka and in many other ways too. All media has a bias or political agenda.
    KSS
    10th Jul 2014
    6:27pm
    I have been to Sri Lanka, as you suggest Sri Lankan jaffna tamil, and I agree it is a beautiful peaceful place. I did not stay in the South but travelled all over the island. Fabulous.
    Watto
    10th Jul 2014
    12:28pm
    They all seem to have the latest mobile phones , ipads etc.

    Where does the service provider for these items send the invoice,.....and who pays when they are in Oz .?????????????????????????????
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    12:31pm
    Most likely the TAXPAYER
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    1:26pm
    The mobile phones seized from refugees had stored numbers of people here in Australia.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:51pm
    Nearest Centrelink Number Mainly !!
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    5:21pm
    Somebody here in Australia is selling the idea to them. The ABC and the Greens seem to know a lot about what was going on. One ABC report I read stated they had lost contact with the refugees. Apparently they were in continual phone contact until phones were seized. I suspect Centrelink would be on speed dial and unlike us they would not wait an hour everytime.
    Polly Esther
    10th Jul 2014
    12:55pm
    Short answer- No and yes. The long answer- No way and yes of course.
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:23pm
    and stay on course.
    KSS
    10th Jul 2014
    12:57pm
    It is interesting that the 41 already sent back were screened and judged to be economic refugees. One was reported to have been assessed to have a genuine claim but when told he would not be brought to Australia but taken to Manus then elected to return to Sri Lanka.

    The convention to which Australia is a signatory states that the person seeking asylum must make their application at the first safe country they get to. If these people are now coming from India, they are not complying with the law. India is a safe place for them yet they seem not be making their way to the Australian High Commission to make their claim. Nor are they making a claim at the Australian High Commission in Colombo. No they prefer instead to pay thousands of dollars to get on a boat instead.

    I am all for taking genuine refugees and even increasing the number we take if necessary. BUT I want them to come from the very long lines of those who have been waiting in refugee camps for years not those who try to manipulate the system with money and threats of self harm.

    As for whether we should be told every detail about every case of course not. The police and armed forces do not release every detail about their operations in order to protect those very operations. So it should be for customs and immigration. Unfortunately the previous Governments published way too much information which effectively became 'how to' documents for the people smugglers and a script for the unauthorised arrivals. Now there is no script and no manual. That is a good thing.
    doggone
    10th Jul 2014
    12:58pm
    i am amazed at the assumption by people like gee whizz that these people have gold rolex watches, credit cards and the like.
    how do actually know?
    same with judy in the hills where is your actual evidence?

    or, have you been watching those low browed "current affair" shows on tv which love to feed prejudice and demonise people.

    have you people actually delt with these people, that i find hard to believe as even the governemnt denies the australian people any actual knowledge of what is going on.

    that said i agree with stopping the boats but please don't demonise.

    and its ironic that the first european settlers in this country, capt phillip and the first fleet were themselves boat people.

    and in later years people flocked to australia to avoid persecution or to better themselves economically.

    it seems the red neck approach is alive and well.
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    9:00am
    capt phillip set a bad example
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    1:04pm
    It's a cover up. What happened to the openness and transparency this government promised. Tony Abbott is determined at all costs to be seen as the person who "stopped the boats". It's a good idea to adopt an asylum carer scheme. Should be looked into. If it meant saving my children's lives or being able to feed, clothe and educate them, I too would get on a boat. If Australia accepted more refugees, maybe there would be less people getting on boats. We take very few compared to other countries. I certainly believe in screening and protection, but not the inhuman way this government is dealing with it. There are many stories going around about, gold Rolex watches, credit cards, mobile phones etc., many people want to believe that rubbish. I like to see the facts and I like freedom of the press and openness. We are not getting it.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    1:51pm
    Lied to Mar. This will be the legacy of this government.
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    5:36pm
    Lies , infrastructure, and DVD's.

    10th Jul 2014
    1:06pm
    For all of those who are so worried about illegal boat people, open your homes, take them in, provide for all their needs for the next 10 years. It is strange that when these illegals come and are offered money to go back they take with willingly. Most are simply economic refugees, they are not genuine.
    As far as I am concerned we should send ALL boats back to the place they originated from, to all the countries who complain about what we do, let them take them all in.
    This may be the largest island and smallest contenant in the world but we do not have unlimited resources. What of all the Aid that is given, we should take care of our own first and then worry about the rest of the world.
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:57pm
    Yes indeed..... charity begins at home.

    I wonder how many Australians are homeless/sleeping rough during this freezing weather, that should be looked after FIRST.
    tia-maria
    10th Jul 2014
    1:58pm
    tactful,First I would never open my home up mate we dont know them??? one can only imagine what some of their back grounds could be????............YES I AM BEHIND YOUR COMMENT 100% cheers
    ps I bet the ones saying let them into your homes their not practing what the preach??????
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    5:49pm
    Don't be so Harsh.. They have FLUNG Their Front Doors Wide Open !! Come One Come ALL !!!..
    Goody Two Shoe Society of Australia ....
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    1:08pm
    Good on you doggone. Can't believe the prejudice! Who said Australia is NOT RACIST!!!!!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:50pm
    DEFINTLY NOT.. I still play Space Invaders on My Computer !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:27pm
    Absolutely not. I and friends play with coloured marbles.
    Young Simmo
    10th Jul 2014
    1:16pm
    Scott Morrison's strong unbending, positive confidence, tells me he would do a wonderful job as Prime Minister.
    Anybody agree ?,?,?.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    1:45pm
    Yes yes yes !!!!!
    tia-maria
    10th Jul 2014
    2:02pm
    Young Simmo and Pineo ...no doubt your Liberal supporters
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:02pm
    Australia does not any government as corrupt as this (Howard left over) crew.
    We need strong HONEST leaders, not cretins owned by vested interests who work for their backers first and the nation last.
    Young Simmo
    10th Jul 2014
    2:09pm
    tia-maria, I was a Lib from 1958 till 2014.
    Last time I went for the PUP as it is time for a breath of fresh air.
    I don't have any regrets, and I don't think I am an orphan on that count.
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    5:40pm
    Every party I vote for is ridiculed and called names. I'm tired of backing the dogs, thinking of going for PUP next time?
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:06pm
    Choose the on with the Cute Pink Nose !!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:19pm
    The Party with the Sexiest Swim Wear aint much Chop !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:29pm
    That twitch in Tone's eye is not cause he is a winkin at ya.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:48pm
    Two Frogs and Eye of Newt !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:50pm
    And that's in the speedo's.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    3:03pm
    Rain Bow Balls
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    1:28pm
    Obviously, the boats have not been stopped. It's just hidden and the Govt., has found a cruel,inhuman way of dealing with the problem.They say "stop the boats because people die at sea". Yet, they are not concerned they might die or be persecuted when they send them back, as well as be more at risk at sea. Others say it's the "cost to our country", but yet the Govt. Can afford to spend millions on trying to find a lost plane or buy new jet fighters for the defence force. I could go on. They need to put more money into processing them quickly, not keeping them in detention for years.But for the Grace of god it could be any one of you.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:04pm
    The question is if this bunch of lying pollies has hidden the true numbers from the public view????
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    5:23pm
    Capital "G" for God Please !!
    KSS
    10th Jul 2014
    6:30pm
    What you mean your usual 'other' news outlets haven't told you the numbers of boat arrivals in the last 9 months? Its all a conspiracy that there have been none (or is it ONE) is it? Really......
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:28pm
    Some times a Landing Craft makes it, but we are Sworn to Secrecy now in Russia !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:31pm
    Are the Russians coming?
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:40pm
    Never thought of that ?? ..But Probably not long now ?? Crimean's Escaping Persecution !!.. HELP !!
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    1:28pm
    Operation Sovereign Borders was implemented by our Government for our safety and the good of our country. I total applaud their stance that they are taking and regret that it was not done sooner. The Government has an obligation to its people to protect us from illegal activities.
    EELS
    10th Jul 2014
    1:44pm
    Well said Pineo!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:06pm
    This government is full of deceit, including on this issue. Having said that it has taken the correct course of action. But the underlying question is about propriety, honesty, transparency and accountability. On all of these the Abbott dictatorship is a failure. "she.....sorry....he lied"!!!
    KSS
    10th Jul 2014
    6:33pm
    Mr Abbott said he would stop the boats. He has. He didn't 'lie' about that.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:35pm
    The boats did stop today !! They couldn't Leave in that Stiff Southerly !!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:02pm
    Next LIE KSS: did you see the 7:30 Report (Sydney) tonight? Greg Hunt stated several times that the reason for high electricity prices is the Carbon Tax. You'd agree with that wouldn't you????
    Here's the truth (about the Abbott government LIE), from an independent highly respected BUSINESS newsletter. Scroll down to the pie graph (the donkey). A fantastic graph which tells the real story....that over-investment in poles and wires was the culprit, that the liberal state governments caused this and that the Carbon Tax was working well with 10% of electricity production now coming from rooftop solar, not coal. Here is the link. Please be bothered to spend the time to have a look:

    http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/7/10/policy-politics/palmer-joins-hewson-ret-love?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=819639&utm_campaign=cs_daily&modapt=

    Whether or not the lying Abbott regime is stopping the boats or not is yet to be seen. What we do know is that information is being sanitised and withheld.
    doggone
    10th Jul 2014
    1:32pm
    young simmo are you for real?
    morrison as p.m?

    he loves secrecy so much that he resembles what happens in dictatorships.
    after all the nazis never told the world what they were doing in europe and when losing the war decided to cover up, hide and keep the secrecy of what they had done.
    a true democracy has transperency not secrecy as morrison displays.
    Young Simmo
    10th Jul 2014
    1:34pm
    Scott Morrison has the score on the board, more than Gillard and Rudd did.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    1:58pm
    Military operations should be kept secret. After all, we can not let those that do illegal activities have the upper hand. Can we??
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:08pm
    So are you picking and choosing issues now Young Simmo?
    Perhaps look at the ENTIRE record and the bigger picture. Or are you one of the Abbott drones who cannot see past the media lies and vested interests which control this government?
    Young Simmo
    10th Jul 2014
    2:15pm
    mick, I reckon I have you sussed out like, when you go to a football match you ask the umpire who is going to win before you scream around to the booky shop.
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    5:49pm
    Scott Morrison is certainly made of the right stuff. Who would want his job? I see him as a future Prime Minister for sure!! He has done what the previous government tried so hard to do but they could only stand there crying. Sarah Hanson Young was the biggest sniffler. Her moaning and whaling carried on for days. They had no idea! But Scott Morrison on the other hand just gets the job done and has no excuses. He's the guy you want on your team!!!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:41pm
    I reckon Julie Bishop is the Gal for the Job.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    8:19pm
    One wrong word from Them Over There and She'll Sit on Them !!!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:04pm
    Stay with the issue young simmo, not gah gah nonsense.
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    10:00pm
    on a cross bench.
    douwe26
    10th Jul 2014
    1:35pm
    How come refugees are more important than our own people and pensioners who always seem to miss out on their`e entitlements
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    1:45pm
    I agree. We don't look after our own. It's a disgrace.
    tia-maria
    10th Jul 2014
    2:00pm
    douwe26 SPOT ON MATE
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:23pm
    STONE THE CROWS !! I get More than Enough and can Bank $300 a Fortnight !!..
    But I do live on Dirt after it !!
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    1:36pm
    tj . What's a refuge "in the true sense of the word" ?
    EELS
    10th Jul 2014
    1:49pm
    'a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster'
    The majority of those turning up in boats cannot be cited as being in that classification.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:35pm
    My Place With Barred Windows !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:43pm
    Used to be the reading room when I wanted to escape the wife and kids after work.
    tj
    11th Jul 2014
    10:51am
    do you really have to ask?
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    1:42pm
    Scott Morrison should be ashamed to call himself immigration minister. He would have made a good candidate for the Gestapo.
    Young Simmo
    10th Jul 2014
    1:51pm
    Scott Morrison is doing a perfect job.
    Just to bring you up to date, he is the Immigration Minister, not Big Mouth Entertainment Minister for small brained Aussies.
    He does the job and talks latter, unlike Potato Head who always talks about what he might do.
    EELS
    10th Jul 2014
    1:52pm
    Get over yourself and think just what you are accusing him of. Are they being mistreated and herded into death camps? Please don't equate what is happening to them with what the Nazis did. It is disgusting to speak about this in the same context.
    Juris
    10th Jul 2014
    2:01pm
    Did you every experience the "nazis" or the "gestapo" first hand Mar? - or are you just rambling on. Your examples are so way off that you cannot be taken seriously.
    micko
    10th Jul 2014
    2:02pm
    Govt was elected to do the job of stopping the boats....last time I looked they're succeeding....majority happy, minority whinging.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:10pm
    "micko" is not me (mick).
    Hey dude: are you are liberal party troll or what? We'll see I guess.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:14pm
    And while I am at it I'll use the "mandate" word your fearless leader throws around like confetti. Abbott NEVER had a "mandate" to do most of what he has tried on. When challenged he turns the argument around to doing what he was elected to do.
    The reality is that "stop the boats" and "repeal the carbon tax" were the only two madates. The rest is BROKEN PROMISES, or worse still promises which Abbott never had any intention of keeping......better known as INTENTIONAL LIES.
    Tell that to your boss!!!
    micko
    10th Jul 2014
    2:40pm
    Hey Mick....you're very naive if you've ever believed any promise a politician has made!!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:52pm
    nah he just wouldn't look the part with a mo.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:06pm
    I stopped "believing" a long time ago because both sides are dishonest. Its just that one side is totally devoid of any honesty.
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    1:53pm
    Pineo, who protects us from the Govts. illegal activities?
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    2:01pm
    What illegal activities???
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    2:02pm
    We all know that all Politicians are nothing more than criminals. They only look after themselves and "don't give a rats" about us.

    They make the Mafia look like pre-schoolers.

    It's time we Australians stood up and gave the major parties something to think about, as they are just as bad as each other.

    Vote for the Independents (not the Greens) and give them the kick in the pants that they deserve.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:17pm
    Isn't it strange that politicians of any persuasion refuse to be accountable for corrupt behaviour or their pay deals. It must be nice to be able to act like a criminal and not be accountable.....with the exception of the electorate, which often does not occur because the media will not print some things.
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    2:53pm
    Yes, Mick..... that is one of our major problems in this country.... the Politicians are not held accountable for their mistakes/corruption/back door deals.

    Imagine, the ASIC doing an audit or inquiry on both the Opposition and Government members!!!!

    My God, we would need the "Spanish Inquisition".

    No Australian business can be run this way and company directors are held accountable, so
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    2:55pm
    .......so

    Why are Governments treated the same? AFTER ALL, ITS OUR MONEY they are wasting.

    10th Jul 2014
    2:00pm
    The Owl and the Pussy-cat went to sea,
    In a beautiful pea-green boat,
    They took some honey, and plenty of money,
    Wrapped up in a five-pound note.

    I'd give them asylum
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    5:28pm
    Pea Soup and Toast for Tea Anyone ??
    China
    10th Jul 2014
    2:10pm
    If we allow these people into Australia, it doesn't take long before they can become Australian citizens which opens the doors for them to bring in their relatives.
    They bring with them, their culture,religion, habits etc.
    You only have to look at other countries ie England, to see what immigrants have done to the British way of life in many ways. Crime has increased. There are nearly as many Mosques now as Churches And the experts predict Britain will become an Islamic State in approx. 50 years. Please do not tell me it will never happen in Australia it's, already started.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:18pm
    Correct...the UK has a place where they have Sharia law now..... vermin multiply fast..... The shorter word for multiculturalism is spelt....... DOOM
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:20pm
    The absolute worst thing any group can bring is its religion. whilst this is not bad under some circumstanses what they bring is often a generic 'religion' which has been perverted and is then used to set up an alternative society which is at loggerheads with the incumbent one. This is what many Australians fear with Islam....or rather the way certain clerics are interpreting it.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:20pm
    Am I being xenophobic??????
    Not Amused
    10th Jul 2014
    2:23pm
    Well said, it's already started mostly due to self-serving, appeasing, self-congratulatory politicians. Australians criticise every religion but are too scared to criticise islam - what does that tell you about their increasing power and control. Our social cohesion is severely damaged. Even Pope Francis admitted recently that some cultures are so diverse they cannot be integrated. We have enclaves here and even a recent very strong objection process to the Bendigo mosque was defeated by a few appeasers. I'm fed up with it and good on Tony Abbott for standing up to the onslaught and pity help Australia if Labor and the Greens ever get back, it will be all over red rover.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:31pm
    Islam is of that Anti Christ spirit....... it is a total denial of Christianity..and even though some here might be atheist...it does not change that fact..and I am not afraid to say it...there is no concord between Christianity and Islam.
    Tom Tank
    10th Jul 2014
    3:19pm
    Sorry PIXAD but Jesus Christ is held in high regard by Islam as a prophet. Islam's objection is not to Jesus but to the distortion of his message by the so-called Christian Churches.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:26pm
    PIX ..Enjoy Your Multi Cultural Society like others do !! Like Our government say You Do !! Don't be so Bitter and Down on our Brothers from other lands ! Let them ALL in !! Go and visit Your Local Mosque and enlighten Your self, Convert Even !! Before You are Swamped and Forced too !! ..
    Now lighten Up..
    Aloysius
    10th Jul 2014
    3:50pm
    If you read the Qu'ran you will realise that Islam is intolerant of all other faiths and the, unfortunately increasingly common, extremist wing argues that all infidels (including Christians) should be killed.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    5:10pm
    Islam denies that God has a Son....... wickedness indeed

    The Quran lies and says, God has no son, the Quran lies again and says, that Yeshua did not die, thus the Quran denies the gospel www.richard-2782.net/islam.htm

    Islam is an enemy of the Cross, an enemy of the gospel, the ENEMY OF YESHUA

    ISLAM IS A 'NON PROPHET' ORGANISATION
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    5:17pm
    No Muslim knows God, nor are any known by God or by his Son
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:36pm
    Folks, Enoch Powel was RIGHT.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    8:16pm
    So was Baden-Powel !! You'd have to Scout around for Better !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    10:02pm
    Thanks for Guiding me in the right direction.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    10:15pm
    I got My Frying Pan and Knots Badges last Week !!
    Tom Tank
    10th Jul 2014
    10:48pm
    What a load of rubbish about the Quran and Islam. Bigotry and ignorance are obviously alive and well amongst self proclaimed Christians.
    Yes there are extremists amongst Moslems just as there are amongst virtually all other religions and Christianity is certainly not short of them either. It doesn't mean all Christians are extremists any more than all Moslems are.
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    10:50am
    The Quran lies and says, God has no son, the Quran lies again and says, that Yeshua did not die, thus the Quran denies the gospel www.richard-2782.net/islam.htm
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    10:51am
    Islam denies that God has a Son.
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    10:53am
    Islam is an enemy of the Cross, an enemy of the gospel
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    11:03am
    Tom Tank... I realise you are friend of ISLAM and an enemy of the Cross. for ISLAM is an enemy of the Cross and of that anti Christ spirit, denying that God has a Son
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    11:11am
    Point 1. What the Koran says about Jesus not being the Son of God; 'The Jews said, "Ezra is the son of GOD," while the Christians said, "Jesus is the son of GOD!" These are blasphemies uttered by their mouths. They thus match the blasphemies of those who have disbelieved in the past. GOD con-demns them. They have surely deviated.' GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son.To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth.GOD suffices as Lord and Master ' Sura 9:30; 4:171.

    Point 2. What the Koran says about Jesus not being crucified or died; 'And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him-they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him' Sura 4:157


    SUCH ARE THE LIES OF THE QURAN
    Tom Tank
    11th Jul 2014
    10:24pm
    To clarify PIXAD I am not an enemy of Christianity or of Islam or of Hinduism or any other religion. I am a seeker of truth and while you obviously believe that you know the truth I am afraid that is in your mind alone.
    You have a belief and you are entitled to that and I respect your right to that belief but it is obviously not the truth in my view. I would like to think that you would also respect my right to my point of view but I somehow think that will not be the case.
    The three religions that spring from Abraham all have their very good points but they also share a conviction that they are the only true religion. Is it any wonder that more people have been killed in the name of these religions that for any other cause.

    10th Jul 2014
    2:11pm
    I got no problem with helping those who really need it..... if the GOVT want to fix the deficit all they do is NOT give any Foreign Aid for a couple years. There was some POMMY on tele recently complaining about Australia and some American clown on Q&A raving on about Australia...... we are a weird mob and if others do not like us they they can bugger off, we make our own decisions...BOTH the UK and the USA are in a mess..so we do not need some pommy or yank telling us what to do
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    2:47pm
    I agree.... no problem with those that really need it, but the latest torrent are non-deserving people doing it all illegally. Hey, we have a system..... get in the bloody queue!

    As far as the deficit goes, YES.... stop the Foreign Aid and obsession with joining the UN, who have proven themselves to be useless..... good on you Ruddy, for that huge expense.

    I object to other countries telling us what to do, when they are in the exact same predicament, themselves.

    Why don't we have Referendums any more? What happened to our Democratic society?
    Not Amused
    10th Jul 2014
    2:17pm
    They are not refugees, they are seeking Centrelink benefits paid for by taxpayers. Only 45% of Australians pay tax. Rudd and Gillard let 50,000 illegals in through their utter stupidity, sending a message that Australia is willing and able to accept any country-shopper who eyes us off. Soon 100,000 then how many more flooding in 1,000,000? Australia doesn't need to be a dumping ground for the overpopulated countries. We have enough problems without worsening our already deteriorating social cohesion. My great uncles died to keep us free of foreign invasion, they would turn in their graves if they could see the Hanson-Youngs, Milne's and human rights lawyers of today favouring people smuggled cashed-up cheats who break our laws before they even set foot on our ground.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    2:22pm
    It is amazing how many people on this post are on the same page. If we translate this to the rest of society then both sides of politics need to sit up and take note.
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    2:20pm
    Lived next door to a Hitler Youth, Juris.
    KSS
    10th Jul 2014
    6:41pm
    I lived next door to a tabby cat. Does that make me an expert on the feline world?
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    8:42pm
    I lived next door to a Policeman,Who had Me under suspicion of being a Neighbour for 6 Years !!

    10th Jul 2014
    2:24pm
    The White Australia Policy was the best thing we ever had...it was not racist but designed to keep the ferals out of this nation
    aly_rob60
    10th Jul 2014
    2:58pm
    Yes, I agree..... who abolished or removed that policy? They need to be taken out back and have a severe talking to! Seriously.

    I am not a racist.... but I wont watch the country I was born in, go to rack and ruin, without standing up and saying what I think.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    3:02pm
    The term White Australia Policy comprises various historical policies that intentionally favoured immigration to Australia from certain European countries, and especially from Britain. It came into fruition with the Federation in 1901, and the policies were progressively dismantled between 1949 and 1973

    The policy was dismantled in stages by several successive governments after the conclusion of World War II, with the encouragement of first non-British, non-white immigration, allowing for a large multi-ethnic post-war program of immigration. The Menzies and Holt Governments effectively dismantled the policies between 1949 and 1966 and the Whitlam Government passed laws to ensure that race would be totally disregarded as a component for immigration to Australia in 1973. In 1975 the Whitlam Government passed the Racial Discrimination Act, which made racially-based selection criteria illegal. In the decades since, Australia has maintained largescale multi-ethnic immigration. Australia's current Migration Program allows people from any country to apply to migrate to Australia, regardless of their nationality, ethnicity, culture, religion or language, provided that they meet the criteria set out in law

    ONE BIG MISTAKE AND DOOMED THIS GREAT NATION
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:49pm
    Enoch Powel was right again.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    8:21pm
    Al Grasby !!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:14pm
    I don't think that I can ever agree with the White Australia Policy. But bringing in people with diametrically opposed (religious) views which promote conquering other views rather than integration are not the answer. You know the old saying 'a nation divided against itself cannot stand'.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    9:26pm
    Its Hard to tell the time when the Hour Hand has Dropped off the Clock ??..
    Parti..14
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    9:52am
    The White Australia Policy was the best thing we ever had...it was not racist but designed to keep the ferals out of this nation

    Now the ferals are running amok shouting JIHAD...when the first bombings begin in Australia...tell me then about NOT keeping this nation clean.
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    10:20am
    My Great, Great Grandfather as an alderman on Tenterfield Council welcomed Henry Parkes the evening he gave his great Federation speech on 25th October 1899, and he never mentioned ferals
    Baz
    10th Jul 2014
    2:28pm
    The vast majority of boat people come because there are no avenues for them to obtain a visa. 90% of them have been found to be genuine refugees up to now, which is probably why the govt (both this and last one) have suspended processing. Contrast this with people arriving on short term visas by plane and then seeking asylum, only 20% being found to be genuine refugees.

    We shouldn't punish innocent victims because of where they come from - is it racial or religious, I wonder.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:42pm
    OK then let's invite every feral there is, proclaim around the world that Australia is OPEN FOR INVASION...free home, car, PC and everything else PLUS Govt payments, get their bills paid for...free food, petrol,,and the AUSTRALIANS will work 'til they drop to pay the tax necessary
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    4:22pm
    Pix ..Are You a People Smuggler ?? You got that out of The People Smugglers Manual !!
    KSS
    10th Jul 2014
    6:45pm
    "We shouldn't punish innocent victims because of where they come from"

    No we shouldn't. We should be taking those refugees who have done their time in the refugee camps. Not those who are able to pay for a boat ticket to by pass the system. I also support those who arrive by plane and ask for asylum. They are playing by the rules, can substantiate who they are, have not destroyed their passports and have the right make their application at the airport.
    Young Simmo
    10th Jul 2014
    2:30pm
    Well even though it is not 100%, it does seem that the majority of commenters in here agree with me when I say, Scott Morrison would make an excellent Prime Minister.
    That sort of support makes my day.
    Adrianus
    10th Jul 2014
    6:01pm
    Yep, he seems to be able to do what in 6 months what labor could not do in 6 years!!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:15pm
    Yeah? Good try.
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    2:31pm
    It is an embarrassment to call yourself an Australian these days.We are seen by many as selfish, lacking in compassion, prejudice and racist. What happened to the good, old values. What are we afraid of?
    Not Amused
    10th Jul 2014
    2:42pm
    We are afraid because our jobs growth rate is around 100,000 per year. We have 250,000 immigrants pa mostly low-skilled. Why aren't the countries in the people smugglers region taking people of similar culture, religions and beliefs? They come here then try to change our way of life to the same as what they say they were running away from? Our young people can't find work. We are experiencing deteriorated social cohesion. Don't tell me you haven't seen Australia's urban "no-go" zones? We have 45% of people paying taxes. We can only share so much before we start looking like a third world country ourselves. There are Australians who can't get housing. People who pay to force their way in here are not fleeing war zones. Have a look at these roid boys arriving at Christmas Island and tell me that they are here for the right reasons: http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/08/paul-murray-on-2ue-right-now-131332.html#tpe-action-posted-6a0177444b0c2e970d0192acb30eeb970d
    Why aren't these muscled up men in their own countries, fighting to build better governments instead of chasing a slice of everything our ancestors did to make our country safe and prosperous? We are decent people but not that decent we are going to be bludged off.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    3:34pm
    Not Amused has hit the nail on the head. Very impressed with his truthful comments.
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    6:42pm
    Mar, have you ever asked why these refugees are heading past India, China, and all the way to Australia? easy answer- those countries don't accept them nor will they ever pay for outsiders. It's simple. If we stop paying them handouts totally until any newcomer has worked here for (say) 20 years, then you will see the numbers of boats, planes, dingies etc drop off. It's MONEY they are after not just our freedom. Think about it. Ask a Chinese, Indian, Singaporian how much dole or refugee benefits their countries pay out- zilch.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:18pm
    The media beat up is not the same as the reality. Australians are extremely generous. Even the media cannot deny this. The nation has always welcomed immigrants, but we do not appreciate those who come, have no intention of working (ever) and who want to set up their own state in the country.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    9:30pm
    Which is Absolutely the Case Now !!
    Tombo
    10th Jul 2014
    2:33pm
    For "Doggone' and "Mar" who wanted "hard evidence", perhaps they should refer to Fairfax reporter Jason Koutsoukis who tweeted yesterday: 'Sujeewa Saparamadu, 42..wife of..the man who organised the voyage..complains that Australian officials confiscated her iPhone 5, her daughter's digital camera and her husband's gold credit cards.'
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:35pm
    What about any Swiss bank accounts...ha ha
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    2:35pm
    PIXAPD. I think they missed a few!
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    2:38pm
    YES...hee hee
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    2:50pm
    Young Simmo, nearly 100%?? You MUST be joking. Wishful thinking?
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:19pm
    Perhaps Young Simmo is working for Tony in his day job. Just ignore him.
    Young Simmo
    12th Jul 2014
    5:10pm
    OK Mar I'll be honest and say 99%.

    mick, that sort of comment makes you sound like a looser, but I suppose you are used to that status.
    doggone
    10th Jul 2014
    2:52pm
    eels the nazis covered up by what they were doing in a viel of secrecy.

    we have a veil of secrecy being thrown over by scott morrison.

    if he has nothing to hide then he should be more open.

    do you REALLY know what is going on???

    i agree with stopping the boats but not the secrecy.
    EELS
    10th Jul 2014
    7:30pm
    I don't want to know how its done. I just want the boats stopped.
    CindyLou
    10th Jul 2014
    9:43pm
    I think it is offensive to compare our government to nazis.
    I have worked with unaccumpanied minor refugees, many of whom had thrown away their passports and hence were given a birthdate (same date for all of them). Unfortunately I observed a poor attitude, they displayed a sense of entitlement, had computers etc, use of phones to make very lengthy calls calls to their homelands. The workers taxied them to appointments, however the young people didn't co-operate and if appointments were missed due to their lax attitude the young people didn't care they inconvenienced workers...further i had serious doubts about several of the young people's alleged age being under 18...

    Back to the original theme of this post, I am most angry to see posts comparing our politicians to nazis.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    9:49pm
    Your expecting someone to say stop insulting Nazis aren't You?? Well nobody has Yet !!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:06pm
    I'm very concerned that they may be running short of Free Food out there on the High Seas !!
    I've got a Packet of Sea Biscuits, Half a Jar of Vegemite and tin of Sal Vital I can kick the appeal off with..
    Other donations will be Appreciated !!
    Tim@toc
    10th Jul 2014
    3:14pm
    Sal Vital? Is that something like Epsom salts?
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    3:15pm
    Magoo's revenge
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:37pm
    Tim ..To some a Close Cousin to Draino !!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:39pm
    PIX..AAH! WALDO !!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:45pm
    Holy Books also accepted such as Korans Etc.., As they were Accidently lost overboard with the Passports !! Also offers of Accommodation on Arrival from Concerned folks Appreciated !!..
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:10pm
    gee and here's me thinking Sal Vital was a Federal Pollie, knew his cousin ENO'S.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:46pm
    Alka Seltza Will be along Shortly when He is Whistled Ashore By the Navy !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    8:01pm
    and keelhauled with some fleet.
    Tom Tank
    10th Jul 2014
    3:11pm
    Most of the comments have totally missed the point as the question was about the secretive nature of the government.
    We keep on being told that if we have nothing to hide then we should not be worried about CCTV cameras, personal emails being accessed by ASIO, and other activities of government bodies.
    So taking the government at their word what do they have to hide about the boats "arriving". Forget about the obsession with sending them all back the question is what if the government keeping from us? What are they hiding? Well the cost is one issue of course.
    There does appear to be a contradiction in some of the arguments put forward earlier and that is that one hand statements are made about the valuable possessions these "boat people" have but they then are accused of being economic refugees. Perhaps it could be explained to me how they could be both.
    I was an economic refugee back in the 60's, along with thousands of others from the UK, and I came out with virtually nothing. With 14% unemployment in my hometown that was surprising.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    3:21pm
    Every Govt has secrets...lots of skeletons in the AUSTRALIAN CLOSET...some are knocking on the door
    EELS
    10th Jul 2014
    7:33pm
    But you didn't come without getting accepted first before you left the UK did you Tom Tank.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:20pm
    Why be secretive when you are an established liar. Perhaps this government does both well.
    Tom Tank
    11th Jul 2014
    10:34pm
    The point I was trying to make was that if they have so many possessions they must have resources so are they fleeing from poverty or from oppression?
    All I am doing is trying to show weaknesses in so many of the arguments being put forward.
    Stopping the boats was originally proposed in order to stop people coming to Australia. This was then changed to stopping the people smugglers and now it has been changed again to saving lives at sea. This is starting to sound like the Iraq war when we had a whole progression of reasons for the invasion when each one was proved to be wrong in turn.
    Would it be simpler to be honest with the people of Australia and tell the truth, oops sorry there appears to be a congenital inability to do that and perhaps the truth is a word not recognised in the LNP.
    Tim@toc
    10th Jul 2014
    3:12pm
    What do I think? I think most of the public have other things to worry about. They certainly don't need to know. You and the rest of the media should keep your collective noses out of it. I hope the Government and Scott Morrison stick to their policy on this.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    3:37pm
    Spot on Tim!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:22pm
    Most people don't care. I agree. That is the precise reason why dishonest politicians get away with misconduct.
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    3:14pm
    Welcome Particolor. Where have you been??
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    3:56pm
    They threw Me Overboard When they found out I was a Christian .. I fought My way through the Shark Soup with a heavy package of Passports and Korans I swam into !!
    Dry Land at last !!
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    3:18pm
    Well said Tom Tank.
    biddi
    10th Jul 2014
    3:21pm
    Regarding the 'asylum seekers' ..... I support Scott Morrison and the Govt. 100 per cent.
    As for Sarah Hanson-Young, the less said the better .....
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    3:40pm
    Hear hear!!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:23pm
    Be careful biddi. Never get into bed with the devil.

    10th Jul 2014
    3:27pm
    The time has come the Walrus said........ time for Midsomer Murders
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    5:44pm
    The Choirmaster did it..... all that carry on with the undertakers wife..
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:52pm
    Thanks for that PIX..I can delete the Recoding of it now that I WAS gunna watch later !!!..You'd be a Treasure to take to the Flicks ???
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:57pm
    sex lies and videotape
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    9:46am
    HA HA....Most of Midsomer Murder are repeats...been screened many times....there was a new series with a new Barnarby and Sgt.....but it did not last long....they should show more of them
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    3:29pm
    Tom Tank. it seems to me it's the same old story.
    Genuine Refugees(whatever that means) against economic refugees.
    Deserving poor against non-deserving poor.
    and we are all judges and jury.
    Your right, the question is should the Australian public know what is going on
    In their country ? Or should we all put our heads in the sand and pretend its
    Not happening, because we don't want it to cost us anything(except when it hits our hip pocket). Once the Govt. Gets away with it, it will grow like Pinnochio's nose)
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    3:37pm
    The Minister is doing what other officials are sworn to do- to carry out legitimate policy that may include secrecy , and not to be burdened by"do-gooders" who are enticing these illegal operations. Do you want to know all about other security risk operations on the evening TV too ? Wake up you dummies- this is 2014 not 1880.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    3:48pm
    Another very correct statement Oars. I am pleased we have concerned thinkers with us, on the protection of our boarders.
    Tom Tank
    10th Jul 2014
    3:50pm
    This is not a security risk operation. The Government declared it to be one but that is an excuse only. Totalitarian governments of all types have used that excuse through the ages to simply cover up what they don't want their people to know.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:24pm
    "The Minister is doing what other officials are sworn to do". Yep. Lie.
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    3:47pm
    Oars. I think the issue is that it may not be legitimate, but due to secrecy we do not know. This was a Govt., who said that unlike the last Govt., they would be open, transparent, honest!!!!!! Thank God, we have some do-gooders as there is an awful lot of bad-doers.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    3:58pm
    As I mentioned earlier Military operations should be kept secret. To not do so could jeopardize the operation. Is that too difficult to comprehend? Even people say they are honest, open and transparent, but how many are?
    wally
    10th Jul 2014
    3:56pm
    Hi Mar. Regarding your comments (2:21, Thursday) about returning to Australia's "Good Old Fashioned Values," do you mean restoring Australia's White Australia Policy of the 20th Century? As far as compassion is concerned, perhaps you and other do gooders would like to post a good behaviour bond of perhaps $25,000 to ensure the good conduct of a refugee that you would billet in your own home at your own expense to save the taxpayers the needless cost of housing and feeding these parasites. In short, put your money where your mouth is.
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    4:00pm
    Good one Wally.
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    6:27pm
    Wally- you make a lot of sense. The idea of paying outsiders at all while our oldies are suffering is disgusting. Let any of you "doo gooders: put up or SHUT UP. Benevolence starts at home- and home REALLY is crying out, in case you lounge squatters are unaware of it.
    Boarder patrol and preventing these illegal operations should be left to experts.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:41pm
    How Quick do You want a Rare Strain of Imported Measles !! and worse ??
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    4:03pm
    Wally, It's not worth commenting on that amount of prejudice.
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    6:50pm
    But you did Mar !!!
    wally
    10th Jul 2014
    11:32pm
    Not worth responding to because of prejudice? HA. It would seem you have no answer because you let your heart run riot over your brain. Are you really suggesting that Australians should allow our country to be over run with hordes of people and that we should bankrupt ourselves and our country to cater for their every whim? How long would you say it would take for Australia to take pride of place in the ranks of the Third World Galaxy of Bankrupt and Anarchic Hell Holes? Is that the future you want for Australia and our children and grandchildren? Where would you draw the line to say "Enough is enough?"
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    4:05pm
    I don't know Pineo, You know it all so you tell me!
    Pineo
    10th Jul 2014
    4:15pm
    Not much point! we all have our own opinions!
    moke
    10th Jul 2014
    4:40pm
    Minnie I wonder how many of these good people would open their homes to our own needy. I guess not many and I firmly believe Charity begins at home.
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    6:29pm
    Moke- you too get it.
    Reeper
    10th Jul 2014
    5:37pm
    Anyone who wants to open our doors to back-door entrants, should be given them to look after, be responsible for and support them until their individual cases are resolved. The Hansen-Youngs and 'caring' advocates usually have political agendas, so let's have them put their money where their mouths are and physically take responsibility.....bet their fervour soon dies off.
    Anonymous
    10th Jul 2014
    5:47pm
    A few folks here have already vacuumed their carpets...and have their credit cards ready to receive some..they can open their front door to the back door bell ring
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    8:02pm
    can they manage to do that, ring it I mean.
    dowdy
    10th Jul 2014
    5:53pm
    I wonder when the phrase "do-gooders" became a derogatory term - something to be condemned. I also question the popular belief that most of the asylum seekers are economic refugees. The statistics, when we were able to get them, demonstrated that a very high percentage of the asylum seekers were genuine. The recent boat load of Tamils sent back to Sri Lanka were n a refugee camp in India, where they had gone because they were in danger in Sri Lanka. They are now in prison there. Please look at the information from Lambadusa, a little island off Sicily, where hundreds of asylum seekers arrive every day, and are welcomed by the community. As the psalm says "Harden not your hearts...."
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    6:30pm
    Are the ones who arrive at Sicily trained into the local Mafia- or what ???
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:02pm
    AY !! Abdul !! Wanta Nica Payin Job ?
    EELS
    10th Jul 2014
    7:41pm
    I think you will find Dowdy that almost all of those on board were Sinhalese who are not in any danger. There were a few Tamil shipmates amongst them.
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:27pm
    Some well said comments dowdy but it costs a lot of money to get onto one of these boats. This is not the realm of refugees because refugees generally have no money.
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    6:13pm
    dowdy, I think the term do-gooders came from people who actually felt guilty because they did nothing at all. The world has a humanitarian crisis. The asylum seekers who come to Australia are a very small part of it. The Government policy at the moment of dealing with asylum seekers is draconian to say the least. I feel ashamed of it, and I find it sad to read so many harsh comments. I agree with you "harden not your hearts..."
    Ballgameskeith
    10th Jul 2014
    6:16pm
    Nice bit of "dog whistling" Drew, cannot hear anything except a lot of yapping!
    MICK
    10th Jul 2014
    9:27pm
    Woof!!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    6:35pm
    They should be given food, water, clothing, and OARS, a CD player with the song ROW ROW YA BOAT .
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    6:59pm
    Gently Down the Stream !
    Merrily Merily Merily Merily !
    To Australia's Peaches and Cream !!
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    6:36pm
    Just watched parliament today on the news. Best circus I have ever seen. What chaos.How long can this go on!!!
    Oars
    10th Jul 2014
    6:49pm
    Just like the "good ol' days" when "Pommie-Stryne" was exacerbated by Juliar.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    7:56pm
    Mar... Till they Retire on Meggagazzilions and the Next lot of Actors come in !!
    Kato
    10th Jul 2014
    7:59pm
    bullens is still going round and round
    Mar
    10th Jul 2014
    8:53pm
    Moke/oars/and many others. You will all be pleased to hear that a group of people in Adelaide have offered to house the mothers and children from the detention centre(until they have had clearance). They are waiting to see if they will be allowed to do this. Thank God for the Do-Gooders.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    9:02pm
    The ones already here have all tried that !!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    9:04pm
    14 now on constant Suicide watch in detention !! Its Epidemic !!..
    Not Senile Yet!
    10th Jul 2014
    9:15pm
    One Aboriginal Leader turned to his second in command......"We gotta do something about these boat people....if they keep coming they will outnumber us!"
    The second in command replied...." Your right chief, but what do you suggest?"
    And the Aboriginal people are still trying to get rid of us!
    Bet they are laughing at how the worm has turned!
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    9:54pm
    After The Great Flood Noah's Family said the same !!
    jimjon
    10th Jul 2014
    10:12pm
    Why do I always think of Concentration camps and swastikas when I see pictures Scott Morrison?
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    10:19pm
    Have Your Anxiety prescription Checked !!
    wally
    10th Jul 2014
    11:42pm
    Hi Jimjon. When you think of honour killings, the stoning of female rape victims and beheading those who do not agree with you, do see pictures of Kevin Rudd, Bob Brown, Julia Gillard, Christine Milne and Sarah Hanson Young?
    jimjon
    10th Jul 2014
    10:19pm
    After WW 2 Australia accepted thousands of refugees from Europe and they greatly helped develop this country. In the 60's, we received thousands of Vietnamese refugees by boat, and most were processed and allowed to remain here
    Now this Government appears to be reverting back to the Jewish problem before WW 2 when many of those were not accepted, and many returned to the country they were trying to flee from.
    Supernan
    10th Jul 2014
    10:26pm
    No-one wants an open door policy in any country. But we take fewer refugees than any country. Contrary to what every one believes, refugees dont get massive benefits. Only what Centrelink gives to any Aussie in need. And, on restrictive visas, they are not allowed to work & only get 6 weeks benefits & rely on charities. Much of what they get supplied free comes from donations from support groups. The least we can do is follow the legal guidelines of asylum !
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    10:41pm
    We'll I'll go pickin strawberries !!.. Where did You get that Novel ?? I want to read it !!
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    8:46am
    I would venture to say that many would never work in this country at all due to their age, no skills, language etc and will be on welfare until they die. How long could a country afford to do this if boats were allowed to arrive as they wished. Of course if those who are in favour of open slather were prepared to open their homes, have a reduction in their own concessions and benefits it may be of help.
    Paddles
    10th Jul 2014
    10:40pm
    I suggest that many of you need to check out the accepted definition of the term "refugee".

    My authority has it as ................"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster".

    That is a good starting point to arguments about the bona fides of illegal immigrants and, if you wish to cavil at my terminology, then do a bit of digging into our legislated policy for legal entry into Australia.

    Far and away, it seems that the bulk of the "boat people" are seeking a better life and prospects than are on offer in their country of origin and who can blame them? Whilst a worthy and understandable ambition, it should not be supported at any level when it puts the future of those who have waited diligently in the legal queue on hold, due to the numbers.
    Gee Whiz
    11th Jul 2014
    7:01am
    Yep! Couldn't have said it better myself.
    Young
    10th Jul 2014
    10:49pm
    These people have money and want more by coming here.They are economic immigrants.They are not persecuted asylum seekers.Send them home.if they must come let the greens and so called do good ers invite them to live in their homes.
    particolor
    10th Jul 2014
    11:07pm
    We had a terrible Cold day here !! I'm going to seek Asylum in Hawaii !!
    wally
    10th Jul 2014
    11:34pm
    Hi Particolor, Me come too!
    Kathleen
    11th Jul 2014
    12:53am
    Reading on other sites I have noticed that the children sitting on a boat in the middle of the ocean would most certainly be welcomed by many Aussies. Mothers so desperate that they want to commit suicide would also find a home in Australia. Do not underestimate the generosity of many people who care and empathise with these boat people. Once screened these poor unfortunates would find help in Australia from ordinary people. A common thread coming through is people care about the environment, feel for the legitimate boat people, want everyone given a fair go. This is Australia after all!
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    9:08am
    They will have them pulling that Prank here soon if they don't get their way !!.
    If they had all that dough to get on board the leaky crate in the first place why didn't they get on a plane and come faster and safer ???
    Young Simmo
    11th Jul 2014
    1:30am
    OK, I know this is way, way, way off subject but I need an answer. Can somebody please tell me and probably a few others why on TV news we are told, " His Identity can not be revealed"
    It seems to me that our Judges and Magistrates, ( Who I used to think were intelligent people) just want to protect the Vermin in our society.
    I could be wrong, but I am starting to think our Judges and Magistrates feel sorry for these animals and protect them in case the Judges and Magistrates get court one day.
    Am I right or wrong ????????
    Not Amused
    11th Jul 2014
    9:53am
    My grandfather spent 3 years waiting in considerable pain for knee surgery. When boats were deliberately burned as a result of people smugglers' paying customers having committed arson by setting fire to boat engines so they would be rescued by the Australian Navy, some of them were burned. My grandfather, one of our exemplary elders like most never broken a law or misbehaved in his life, saw pictures on t.v. of illegals being stretchered onto aircraft and flown to emergency wards in WA. The destination-seekers were even paid the courtesy of being sheltered behind huge canvas barriers so their identities would not be known. Such was grandfather's personal pain and despair, he cried. Not for himself, not for the illegals, but for the preferential treatment handed out to people who caused their own problems. I think he was insulted by the contrast in rapid availability of first class health and social welfare for entitlement seekers compared to our own hardworking nation builders.

    11th Jul 2014
    10:06am
    The White Australia Policy was the best thing we ever had...it was not racist but designed to keep the ferals out of this nation

    Now the ferals are running amok shouting JIHAD...when the first bombings begin in Australia...tell me then about NOT keeping this nation clean.

    We have various religions, buddhism, hinduism, and a variety of others NONE of them dictate to our Govt what we will or will not have, they live here in peace and go about their own matters....BUT in waltzes ISLAM and what happens, no sooner are they here then they are commanding what will or will not be done. In some schools, they do not want Christmas mentioned or displayed..so what does the YELLOW GOVT do ? they tell the school to stop displaying a nativity scene. I mean even the atheists who deny God would acknowledge such a thing to be wrong. Islam demands this and demands that WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE ? coming to OUR country and telling US what we will or will not celebrate..... I am not scared to tell them to BUGGER OFF and do not come back.
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    10:28am
    My Great, Great Grandfather as an alderman on Tenterfield Council welcomed Henry Parkes the evening he gave his great Federation speech on 25th October 1899, and he never mentioned ferals...Henry Parkes nor my GG Grandfather....hee, hee.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    12:47pm
    I hope You have no OFFENDED Them !!
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    2:17pm
    HA HA HEE HEE HO HO
    Tim@toc
    11th Jul 2014
    10:19am
    Barak Obama and Tony Abbott are shown a time machine which can see 100 years into the future. They both decide to test it by asking a question each.
    Barak goes first. “What will the USA be like in 100 years time?”
    The machine whirs and beeps and goes into action and gives him a printout, he reads it out
    "The country is in good hands under the new president, crime is non-existent,
    There is no conflict, The economy is healthy. There are no worries”
    Tony thinks “It's not bad this time machine, I'll have a bit of that” so he asks: “What will Australia be like in 100 years time?”
    The machine whirs and beeps and goes into action, and he gets a printout.
    But he just stares at it.
    Come on Tony” says Barak, “What does it say”
    Tony replies, “Buggered if I know! It's not in English!”
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    10:23am
    HA HA good one...hee, hee.....all better learn Feral then...lo
    carmencita
    11th Jul 2014
    1:28pm
    There are times when secrecy is needed to achieve a goal-in this instance to stop illegals from entering Australia. If these people are real refugees, why aren't they going to UN processing centres instead of violating the sovereignty of a country. We have enough trouble with our budget being in the red, these occurrences are additional financial burden to Australian tax payers. As it is many refugees admitted to Australia are involved in people smuggling which is a crime, so we are increasingly harbouring criminals.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    1:34pm
    Aiding and Abetting Criminals ..Is Punishable By A New House,10 Grand of Furnishings and fortnightly payment from Centrelink,And You don't have to Work for it ..
    Young Simmo
    11th Jul 2014
    1:45pm
    particolor, I made a similar comment a few days ago and got howelled down by a couple of Mental Retards, good luck with yours.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    2:06pm
    Simmo ..I don't give a Dingo's Dongle what anyone says to Me !!.. I live with Retards all around Me here in the NSW Housing Asylum and we are insulted Daily by the inmates . They think its funny and so do us Sane people !!.. Good Luck !!
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    2:15pm
    If captain AHMED working as a trolley collector in Canberra ..a people smuggler; can get a Govt house in Canberra, anything is possible
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    2:26pm
    Those FERAL INMATES are most likely BEHIND in rent too
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    2:44pm
    PIX.. Don't Make Me Laugh .. RENT ?? What's RENT ??.. I've seen notices of Arrears thrown over the letterbox wall into My garden for a Kings Ransom ! And that's what they think of them !!.along with the junk Mail and any other junk they can lay their hands on Mainly Polar Bear tins (Rum & Coke).Left over Maccers ..I saw a Letter the other week for 980 Bucks for an Unpaid Electricity Bill !! and a Foxtel one for nearly the same ?? .. The Land of the FREE !! Literally !! Have Fun !!
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    2:54pm
    The GOVT are scared to kick the ferals out who do not pay rent...some owe 1,000's, feral who used to live in these units..... bill came for him the other day, from PROBE COLLECTORS acting for the ATO...for unpaid tax of $2,250 ...... told them to look for him in Katoomba...... LOL
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    3:00pm
    Been fun here though, a feral from a unit across the way was arrested and is now in custody...ah quiet at last...they reckon he won't be back for 8 years or so...he was behind in rent too...do not think that's why he got arrested... LOL
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    3:10pm
    8 Years ?? That's what Ide get if I forgot to put out the garbage tin !!! But what did He do ??..
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    3:11pm
    Some ferals ask to borrow money, just colour photocopy a $20 note and hope they get pinched for passing counterfeit money
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    3:12pm
    Her Majesty must have wanted him to have a long visit in one of her Institutions
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    3:14pm
    With My luck He would get a Queensland Holiday and Me 10 Years in Long Bay for Forging !!
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    3:19pm
    HA HA..well at least you'd have a view of the Bay
    maczee
    11th Jul 2014
    2:13pm
    Look after our own first, we need homes for our homeless, we need better care for our sick and suffering, we need to get our education systems back on track for our youngsters, and we need to know our old are not hungry, or cold,
    These people were already safely away from their own country in India, they should be returned there, their point of departure, and make sure those who took their money to get here have their boats well and truly burnt. And stop giving preference votes to the like of Sarah Hanson Young, there is noway she should have any say as she only got in her seat because of preference votes that should be done away with, our votes are not to be used by any one else for what ever purpose.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    2:31pm
    I only turn the heater on here for 4 minutes in the Morning now, till My BLUE Hands and Feet thaw out !! Then I put on 8 pairs of Socks a World War1 Great coat and 3 Pairs of Gloves ..Send em up here in the Nude, India will never have looked so Good !!
    maczee
    11th Jul 2014
    2:17pm
    We need jobs for our own .......... Look after Aussies first, No way you can ask the street to dinner when you can't feed your own.
    Anonymous
    11th Jul 2014
    3:05pm
    Agree
    Adrianus
    11th Jul 2014
    4:29pm
    maczee I agree. However, Sarah Hanson-Young would say go to the bank and get a credit card!
    Adrianus
    11th Jul 2014
    4:56pm
    At the next election I think when all things are considered Tony Abbott will win easily on this issue alone. Many people feel Labor and the Greens were only pretending to be incompetent. They feel something more sinister was at play. This is just what people tell me.
    Gee Whiz
    11th Jul 2014
    4:56pm
    On another subject, has anybody else noticed the vitriolic attacks by the Murdoch press on Clive Palmer, and any other politician who isn't aligned with any of the LNP governments throughout Australia.

    Their gutter press tactics is to "photo shop" pictures of anybody it doesn't like and create any entirely different disparaging photo than what was originally intended.

    This disgraceful practice is apparently condoned by the Press Council Of Australia and is an indication of how far Murdoch s influence extends.

    Then the Murdoch media outlets, including the mouth from the south Andrew Bolt has the audacity to call the ABC biased.

    There is always two sides to every story but you will never find it reading the gutter press from the Murdoch stable.
    unicorn
    11th Jul 2014
    5:32pm
    My opinion is that Scott Morrison is only doing as he is told by his not so illustrious leader Tony Abbot who thinks if we the general public don't hear about them he will have accomplished what was said impossible to do. The boats don't come to Australia Tony's wish that you would all get that into your heads.
    Adrianus
    11th Jul 2014
    6:19pm
    I agree with you unicorn. Tony Abbott is showing strong leadership. I suppose that's what we need in a PM. But he needs to give us more welfare. And for G..... sake give us more information on where all the boats are around the world. That would be a big help!!!
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    6:21pm
    I'm getting Sea Sick !!
    Adrianus
    11th Jul 2014
    6:51pm
    Me too parti. The government have been turning back boats since last December and there have been no boats from Indonesia since May!!! I might still vote for these guys!!!! Wow!!! What a great job!!!
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    7:27pm
    Full Speed Astern !! "OH DEAR !! Captain Lanka has Taken Sick !! Must have Been the Curry those Indians Packed for us for Rations ?"
    41Alpha
    11th Jul 2014
    7:25pm
    We have to stop the flow of refugee's at all costs. When does it stop? when they finally out number us. A lot of ' refugees' are undesirable, a good example being those from Africa especially ( Nigeria and Somalia ) .
    Unfortunately we have to abide to the UN rules. It's time Western countries stood up the the UN.
    A great example of the UN stuff ups is Zimbabwe ( formerly Rhodesia), until the UN along with naive Western Countries, decided to ensure Mugabe came to power. What a stuff up, The bread basket of Africa has become the basket case of Africa. Over 60% of the population ( refugees) are now living in South Africa.
    particolor
    11th Jul 2014
    7:31pm
    Get Yer Ebola Here !! No Charge !!
    jimjon
    11th Jul 2014
    10:21pm
    Wally, I don't see the connection about the names you mentioned.
    Is sad people like you lump all Moslems as the same, They NOT ! Same as all christians in different countries are not the same. Remember Martin Bryant? And Wally, how many of the Moslem faith have you met, or even know? Get to know some, you might be surprised to see that they bleed like us, have aches like us, love like we do, and just because they honour God much more than Christians do, doesn't make them unacceptable.
    wally
    12th Jul 2014
    1:12pm
    jimjon. For your information (to further enlighten you, if there is a hope of that) you ASS-ume too much in your comments in response to mine. It may come as a shock to you, but I have worked with a very devout Muslim who was born in Tunisia, before and after 9/11 and have gotten along very well with him. Likewise, Ibrahim. Hasan and Hamid in two different motor repair shops have worked on my vehicles since the 1990's and I have found them both competent and capable. At no time has the matter of religion or religious differences been brought up in my dealings with them and I accept them as I would anyone else, with less friction than I have experienced with some self proclaimed, so called Christians.
    In my view, the Muslims that have migrated here through properly accepted channels are fine in that they want to merge seamlessly into Australian society. Unfortunately, many of the more recent, and more highly publicized Muslims that exercise their freedom of speech to spout Jihadist rhetoric, get all of the publicity to the detriment of their more moderate co-religionists.
    Lastly, I don't see the connection between the Nazi holocaust and Scott Morrison, either, except that you are taking a cheap shot at him, thereby destroying any validity of your point of view by resorting to overblown nonsense.
    Rosie Girl
    11th Jul 2014
    10:39pm
    yes they should be sent home.... we have people here in Australia who are hard done by.. they should get housing and help before refuges... im not predujice ..... i have always said send them back to their own Country... they only come here because Australia gives them money....THEY ALL SAY AUSTRALIA IS SILLY AND MAD THEY GIVE US MONEY TO COME TO THEIR COUNTRY//....
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    8:33am
    Rosie Girl, I suspect their may be people smugglers operating out of Australia.
    Not Senile Yet!
    12th Jul 2014
    1:07am
    It is indeed a Nation dividing Subject!
    But do we have to Copy the Americans Policy on this as well?
    Do we need to have a Quantamino Bay type Policy!
    I do not understand the hardship of telling people if you come here illegally....(by boat)... we will put you on a Plane and sent you back!
    However, instead of spending millions on Off Shore Detention Centres....surely it would be more beneficial to set up Processing Centres for applications where they are coming from!
    As for the Stop the Boats Policy...it is just a ploy by the Government because we Ausssies hate cue jumpers.....More people come by Plane and disappear every year than ever arrive by boats......and that is a published FACT! Does Tony & CO tell you this and promise to stop them.......Noooo!....why? Because we convicts admire a smart-alec who can beat the system with a bit of brains.....why?
    Who knows???? Maybe cos we like the Corrupt Party Machines we keep voting for but wonder why we don't get a different outcome!!
    Another USA policy.....tell nothing.....they do not need to know!
    Besides...if they knew the truth.....they would vote us out!
    Abby
    12th Jul 2014
    8:33am
    PIXAPD
    I've been reading through this thread and cannot help but wonder
    if that refugee scheme Labor introduced in 2012 still operational ?

    "THE Federal Government will pay families up to $300 a week to temporarily house asylum seekers in their homes to help deal with the increasing flood of arrivals.

    With the Immigration Department now facing a potential shortage of community housing to accommodate detainees who are being released into the community, the Government has turned to householders for help."

    Wonder how many Politicians took up the offer ?
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    8:53am
    Simplest thing is when they arrive the do gooders just give them their homes and possessions..... then take the return boat themselves
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    9:14am
    And they Howled Pauline Down... We will be Swamped by...............
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    9:17am
    Oh for the White Australia policy....... was exchanged for FERALS
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    9:19am
    Abby, I think the current government abandoned the idea because it would have been in conflict with Howard's gun control legislation. If us oldies went to sleep with a pistol under the pillow accidents could happen. Also, many people did not want anyone jumping on their roofs and setting fire to the chicken coup.
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    9:29am
    HA HA....
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    9:31am
    Next boat leaving Circular Quay for Sri Lanka......ALL ABOARD
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    9:40am
    Good, Sound, Wooden 18 footer should accommodate 200 refugees ..Captain Smith,Fully Qualified with Sextant !!..
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    9:46am
    Surely there's plenty of spare rooms in Parliament house for them to stay

    PRIME MINISTER HOSTS BOAT PEOPLE ... and after they sue the Govt and have taken over it will be..... BOAT PEOPLE HOST PRIME MINISTER
    Abby
    12th Jul 2014
    9:53am
    That would be right Pix
    The solicitors and barristers Australian Taxpayer pays for would see to that.
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    10:31am
    YUMMY... me mince stew came out great
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    1:54pm
    Your Lucky..My Butcher told Me to help Myself to the Saw Dust on the Floor !!
    wally
    12th Jul 2014
    12:44pm
    I wonder if they are serenading the 153 boat people with "Six Months in a Leaky Boat" by Split Enz.
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    12:48pm
    The owl and the pussy cat went to sea in a beautiful pea green boat
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    2:01pm
    I just saw a New Sign in Telstra down the Street
    BRIGHTEN UP YOUR MOME..Bla Bla !!
    I felt like writing underneath... HOUSE 4 QUEUE JUMPERS !!
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    2:02pm
    ERR ! HOME....
    toughguy
    12th Jul 2014
    4:39pm
    Being Ex Navy I agree 100% with Scott Morrison, we have enough security problems within Australia & the way I see it if it affects security then you are on a NEEDS TO KNOW BASIS ONLY. There are to many do gooders & loopy people around in Australia as it is why let more of these so called asylum seekers into Australia when we are not looking after our own people, charity should always begin at home before we look after others in this world
    Abby
    12th Jul 2014
    4:49pm
    Unfortunately a lot of people do not realize this and think Border Security should like The Days of Our Lives.
    particolor
    12th Jul 2014
    5:05pm
    Just got back from looking at goings on in Israel on Twitter !! And the People in Australia organizing Protest in Sydney tomorrow for the Palestinians ?? Please Bring Flag one 12 year old said ?? Like last time some of them will bring OUR Flag and Burn it WTF ???.... SECURITY !!.. What the Hell do they think its got to do with us ???
    Adrianus
    12th Jul 2014
    5:31pm
    toughguy, I am pleased we finally have a government which respects the Navy!!!
    Anonymous
    12th Jul 2014
    5:59pm
    Personally, I do not need to know on a daily basis how border security is being maintained.

    I just want the people smuggling stopped and this is what the majority of Australians want...(the silent majority are in favour of this it is just that they say nothing...they are not continually jumping up and done).
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    8:43am
    Just my opinion. If people smugglers are attempting to control our immigration policy, and deciding who comes into Australia, then that should be regarded as a hostile act and these smugglers should be before the courts. Especially if they are operating under our noses like Captain Emad the trolley boy from Canberra. Who gave the elusive Captain his free ticket? He flew out of the country using one of his many names. Chris Bowen gave Captain Emad his protection visa but then cancelled it a couple of months after 4 corners publicised the operation. ALP... crooks or incompetents ? Why did Chris Bowen have Captain Emad helping him with immigration? Emad captained his boat to Australia with about 43 people on board, 6 of whom were people smugglers. I guess they will show up on the next episode of "Where Are They Now."
    particolor
    13th Jul 2014
    9:11am
    Where's Captain Wally now ???
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    9:33am
    Here's another question. How does a Jihadi get into Australia, go to gaol for terrorist acts (bomb making etc), Become a Disability Support Pensioner, then fly out to Syria to fight against the Syrian Government? Meanwhile supported by the Australian Taxpayer while doing so?
    We can only hope for a safe return soon for him and his mates so they can join the protest march in August .
    Anonymous
    13th Jul 2014
    9:55am
    WHO KNOWS how many of these jihad HALFWITS are on the DSP.....and the dole...when any bomb goes off in Australia it will be a suicide bomber who is on the DSP...but the positive thing will be that he will not be on it anymore...or will he...for Centrelink have been known to pay pensions to dead folk
    particolor
    13th Jul 2014
    10:18am
    Yes..How long till those Rocket Scientists start on us Because we have OFFENDED them ??
    Anonymous
    13th Jul 2014
    11:40am
    One day Australia is going to get a wake up BLAST...then it will be too late, then the bleeding hearts and do gooders can be blamed...those who tugged their forelock to ISLAM
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    1:00pm
    Keep an eye on the UK especially England where the Islam growth rate is 10 times faster than any other religion. England is our canary in the mine. Meanwhile, Australian authorities have caught up with a Melbourne Islamic preacher in the Philippines trying to recruit for the Jihad in Syria/Iraq, and he will be brought back here pronto!!! ?? No doubt debriefed and returned to the church ASAP. I wonder what he will be preaching?
    Anonymous
    13th Jul 2014
    2:00pm
    I remember having a conversation many years ago with someone who migrated from the UK because of what was starting to happen there. This person said we were mad importing certain people into this country and that we would eventually pay the price. I fear this is coming true. Why don't we ever learn from others.

    This latest Jihardist they picked up in the Philippines was living with a woman...tut tut and he professes to be a devout leader of the Islamic faith?? Also he was telling lies that he was over in Syria...here he was urging others to go and fight and give their lives to Allah yet here he was holed up in an apartment over there living with a woman.
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    2:30pm
    Radish, we do learn but it's not politically correct to think the way we do (you and I) because the growing minority will call us names like rascist bigot fascist redneck etc. Nobody likes to be called names like that.
    Truth is we are simply drawing a logical conclusion from the factual evidence. Enemies of Murdoch may ask how do you know the tree has fallen in the forest if you were not there? At the moment there is only a small minority on Earth who wish harm to others who don't share the same religious views, but will it stay that way? For the moment, most of us hope that people of differing religions will one day be more tolerant of each other.
    Abby
    13th Jul 2014
    4:10pm
    Frank, Keep an eye on UK ? I read there are already not go zones in Sydney
    Anonymous
    13th Jul 2014
    4:15pm
    None of the immigrants post war up until the Iraq war came to this country have wanted to blow us up etc. We do now! Some are serving long jail sentences but how many more are out there who wish to do us harm and who are currently under surveillance by ASIO right now?

    This is fact not fiction. If I am perceived as a bigot so be it but I know of no other culture in this country who gives me cause for concern.
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    4:56pm
    I lost a good friend by a terrorist bomb and I will never forget that!

    All we can do is hope that Abbott and his team are successful in facilitating a co-ordinated effort by our Defence Forces and Government Agencies so that this great country does not become a war zone.
    So far so good.

    Like I said earlier in this thread....security is such an important part of the Australian way of life that Abbott will walk in for at least another term on this issue alone!!
    And if Morrison goes up against him then he will be the next PM.
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    4:59pm
    'Abby, where are they?
    I know when I was in the San Souci area recently it looked like a place to avoid.??
    particolor
    13th Jul 2014
    6:16pm
    A Friend of Mine a couple of Years back lived at San Souci ! He told me that they came to His door one afternoon and TOLD Him to sell them the House, Not ask Him if it was For Sale !!..I said was it Big Louie and The Boss ? He said no, but they were Frightening ....He moved away !!
    Adrianus
    13th Jul 2014
    7:01pm
    Did they mention a price? I would have charged top dollar and be out of there in a heart beat!! They have those cars with the bouncing suspension and the loud music. Hanging around the kebab shops, not letting us old people walk past. They have no respect for us older people.
    particolor
    13th Jul 2014
    8:30pm
    That was True by the way Frank!! He had already had two cars crash through the front fence and He couldn't get out Quick Enough !!
    Abby
    13th Jul 2014
    10:10pm
    Frank
    You may find this interesting to read
    http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/syrias-civil-war-spills-over-in-sydney/450/
    Adrianus
    14th Jul 2014
    6:35am
    *Abby, my worse fears have become reality it would appear. I have been living in a bubble. I had no idea. It would appear that the situation has escalated to a critical point as various groups attempt to increase their numbers. This is a real tragedy. I am depressed. After reading this article I have become less patriotic I'm afraid. How could we let this happen?

    13th Jul 2014
    5:15pm
    Give our 12 months to be effective notice to UN that we are out of the Convention designed for WW 2 genuine refugees not a doubt whatsoever being anything but and then only take those from the camps who have done the right thing. Because until we do this the smugglers and the often economic migrants looking for work and are careful to bypass those countries with no dole monies for unemployed.
    Simple. We cannot afford anything else if we are going to be sure that we are doing the best for real people in need.
    particolor
    13th Jul 2014
    6:07pm
    No House, Goody's and Dole ? I'm nor going there !!
    particolor
    13th Jul 2014
    6:26pm
    Do People Smugglers give those Economic Refugees a REFUND if they don't like the Place ??
    Anonymous
    14th Jul 2014
    7:44am
    I did read in the last few days that one woman who was taken back to Sri Lanka was wanting a refund from the people smugglers. Good luck with that!
    particolor
    14th Jul 2014
    8:58am
    Smuggler Policy... Your Money Cheerfully Refunded if Not Completely Satisfied !!
    Adrianus
    14th Jul 2014
    9:10am
    Gillard government suggested they go into competition with the smugglers and charge $50,000 per refugee. That would have covered the cost of transport and accommodation, dole etc for a few weeks. Whatever happened to that idea?
    particolor
    14th Jul 2014
    9:17am
    What happens to the Sardines that John West Rejected ??
    Adrianus
    14th Jul 2014
    6:43am
    "Whatever the police assurances, Abu Ali, who came to Australia 14 years ago fleeing Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein’s persecution of Shiites, is ever vigilant, in case the hard men come back. He no longer sees Australia as a place of refuge.

    “I’m really scared now. It reminds me of what was happening before in Iraq. We thought we came to a democratic safe country,” he says, “but we are very scared now.”

    Australia is no longer a safe place for refugees!! Hear that Sarah?!!

    14th Jul 2014
    8:30am
    There was even a NAZI group of Islam...most likely because they wanted to help get rid of Jewish folk....if people do not believe that they can look it up and see pics of the moslem Nazis..oh yeah they loved Hitler.
    Lady Tracey
    15th Jul 2014
    1:07am
    AND WHAT ARE THEY LETTING IN??? THE GUY WHO STABBED ANOTHER GUY IN SYDNEY THIS WEEK CAME IN ON A BOAT FROM IRAN!!!! DOESN'T THAT MAKE PEOPLE THINK TWICE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE LETTING IN??? Robin Hood that is an illiterate comment!! So every person Born in Australia, although one cannot assume that only '1' generation is good enough as a 'real' Aussie for you ...has not committed a crime or stabbed anyone?? So your point being that Australian's dont commit such heinous crimes OR that we do but its ok because we are 'already here' and or are born here?? Sorry but your point became null and void at 'came in on a boat from' !! Please, for the love of all put brain into gear before putting pen to paper!!

    15th Jul 2014
    9:15am
    Look at our streets recently, demonstrations about Israel and Gaza..... why did they come here in the first place ? all they do is cause trouble here.....then one day one will blow himself up and kill Australians...... if they want to demonstrate they can all go back to where they came from AND STAY THERE !
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    9:23am
    And Good Luck !! You'll Need IT !!
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    9:27am
    New Demonstration Area Opened !! SIMPSON DESERT...
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    9:33am
    Cuppa tea time...before I solve the problems of the world
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    9:40am
    Onlookers ..3 Geckos and a Crow !!
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    9:41am
    In the Simpson Desert even the Camels will protest
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    9:51am
    I know of a person from Lebanon, who says ..coming here he discarded all his past, stopped the Islam CRAP and became 'Australian'... no demonstrations for him because he is now here and that's how he sees it..and RIGHTLY SO ....
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    9:53am
    That would make the other Protesters Feel Right At Home !!
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    9:56am
    I've got an.. Oasis Dating Placard for the Next Demo !!
    Adrianus
    15th Jul 2014
    10:05am
    I am going to sound a little paranoid now.
    The idea of importing the war to Australia I feel is all part of a Left Elitist master plan. You see, a well governed, reasonably content population is not malleable or very adaptable to change.
    What change? you may ask. The change to "EQUALITY."
    Politics has become tribal and political parties more ideological. The right is arguing for "equality of opportunity" while the left is determined to argue "equality of outcome." It doesn't matter that neither side will win this argument, both sides are holding their ground on this ideology. Australians are pretty layback and haven't really joined the argument with any gusto, therefore what the left need is more thugs to press home their point. Enter 50,000 experienced religious war mongers who have proved their worth by risking their lives to get here and join the others in the hope that more will come.
    The Australian Security Council say there is a high probability of a terrorist attack on Australian soil, similar to what we saw in Bali. The Disabilty Support Pensioner who went off to fight the Syrian Government and those like him may return to become "sleeper cells" according to security experts. We could have a DSP funded terrorist attack here? I say get ready and that means getting our army boots made locally.
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    10:33am
    You think so ?..
    My Mother wears Army Boots !!
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    11:03am
    DO NOT let these loonies back into Australia..... but fly them over the Iraq dessert and drop them out at low altitude..they will bounce to a stop outside ISIS HQ tent
    Adrianus
    15th Jul 2014
    11:18am
    Who are the loonies? The left intellectuals or the DSP recipients? These guys will be complaining that it takes a day to fly out but they have to come back by leaky boat which takes weeks sometimes months when the stopovers include Nauru.
    Angelina Jolly will be going to Nauru for an inspection on behalf of the UN.
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    11:20am
    They will only board the Iranian FERRY SERVICE Back to here ??
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    11:27am
    ALL ABOARD... Circular Quay via Indonesia...now departing...
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    11:29am
    I think Her and Brad are thinking of Adopting them All ??
    wally
    15th Jul 2014
    11:25am
    Hooray for Angeina going to inspect Nauru! Let's all hope she decides to adopt all the boat people there and the ones on Manus and Christmas Islands and take them home with her!
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    11:28am
    HA HA..... they'd become all little Jollies......
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    11:47am
    The UN and their Tut Tut Tut,"You cant do that !", to Target Country's ! .. Why don't they do a Deal with Russia and open a Holiday Haven for them in Siberia ??
    Adrianus
    15th Jul 2014
    12:19pm
    We paid a lot of money for a seat at the UN table. What happened there?
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    5:41pm
    The Seat was a Clever Fake !!
    Adrianus
    15th Jul 2014
    6:05pm
    Very disappointing, everyone was looking forward to hearing Kevin Rudd's speeches.
    Dot
    15th Jul 2014
    2:59pm
    No more refugees. There are billions out there, not our problem. That's why we the elder are being targeted by the government because of the massive blow out in welfare. Let's open up centrelinks books and see how many foreigners are on them and how many are rorting the system.
    toughguy
    15th Jul 2014
    5:05pm
    If we could only get to examine the Centrelink books I believe that we would be shocked at how many people are getting handouts. I have no objection to people getting assistance from the public purse however I live in country NSW and recently had the opportunity to drive through suburbs such as Auburn, Guildford, Fairfield and Merrylands and I was amazed at the number of ABLE BODIED young men of a certain ethnic race standing around on street corners at all hours of the day, the cars that they drove were not your average run of the mill cars but expensive & heavily modified cars. To me it is fairly obvious where our Centrelink monies are going for which we get nothing in return but whinges and complaints as to how hard done by these people are. This race of people will never comply with our laws customs and traditions. It was only last Christmas at our family gathering I made the statement "I'm glad I'm old" and one of the kids said what to you mean dad and I replied "I'm lucky because I'm not going to see the problems and heartache you kids, the grandkids etc are going to have to put up with because of poor government by the likes of the Labor Party and Greens which have thrown away our once unique Australian way of life by letting for want of a better word RUBBISH into what was the best country in the world to live in"
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    5:40pm
    OWW!! My Poor Aching Mediterranean Back !! Have a Bit of Sympathy You Whinging old Farts !!..
    Adrianus
    15th Jul 2014
    6:07pm
    Did you row all the way?
    toughguy
    15th Jul 2014
    6:13pm
    Don't worry to much particolor we may be old farts but we built this country to the great place that it is and ONE DAY YOU WILL GET OLD and HOPEFULLY WISER. It's obvious that by your posts you are a bit of a simpleton who needs to be educated so go down to your local library & read up on how Australia got to where it is from humble beginnings. My father & thousands of others came to Australia after WW2 & they didn't get handouts like todays "REFUGEES" get, they had a choice either work or starve and they did work and that same work ethic was passed down to their children and I'm proud to say that my 4 kids have all made successful careers for themselves.
    particolor
    15th Jul 2014
    7:45pm
    I know who the Simpleton is You Freak !! I'm already old And don't come preaching to Me about Stuff I already Know Well !! You Get down to the library and take a Book out on some sort of Humour !!.. I NEVER said anything about People coming out Here Legitimately after the War !! .. Go and pick on someone who did !! I wont be back ..
    toughguy
    15th Jul 2014
    8:05pm
    particolor fantastic you won't be back your reply is absolutely FREAKISH, it appears as if senility maybe setting in with you so your stupid remarks will no longer appear in this so make sure that you" won't be back" what a relief
    Adrianus
    16th Jul 2014
    11:59am
    I know a refugee who came to Australia on an old tub from Thailand in the 60's. He couldn't speak English so he lived on handouts and became a consummate thief so that he could eat. He was not very proud of himself but he was alive. He thought that if he could only learn to speak English he would find work and be able to live a more decent life. His search found him in a church where he was asked by the sister to join the congregation. He asked her to teach him English to which the Sister agreed. He then worked hard saved his money, married, had 2 children, both of whom did very well academically in private school, and now have professional careers. He is now at retirement age, with ailing health and reasonably wealthy. However, he still works harder than most. He said to me, "the government should not let those people in."
    Mac
    16th Jul 2014
    9:44pm
    Minister Morrison is a Christian I believe, he certainly does not act like it. Australia should hang their heads in shame to have a Government that does this sort of thing to people coming to our Country for safety, these people are not illegal, they are men women and children escaping from danger and if we were in the same situation we would be doing the same, looking for somewhere safe, in this case, my country Australia.
    Adrianus
    18th Jul 2014
    8:36am
    Mac, it's not a question of compassion. That is a political statement.
    Australia has an immigration policy which includes the number of immigrants we accept each year. Who would you have deciding on who can come to Australia?
    We can hand that responsibility to the people smugglers but the results prove disastrous for everyone concerned. We know this from experience.
    Abby
    18th Jul 2014
    4:19pm
    Mac
    Do you believe that thousands should drown at sea on the people smuggler's hazzardous boats ?
    The last boat is coming from India where the Tamils are not in danger.
    Not Senile Yet!
    19th Jul 2014
    12:55am
    We should spend the money we are currently spending on housing and processing refugees that come by boat at the Departure points of the boats in setting up Immigration Offices to process the applications......without that....they will keep coming!
    Remember most do this because they have no papers/passports because they had to run!
    Yes I know their are a few who are just being sneeky and have burnt or destroyed their passports.......but if you do not have an Immigration Office for them to apply to....are you really giving them an alternative.
    The processing can be done overseas...and advertise that if you arrive illegally by boat.....then on a plane and back you go!
    Abby
    19th Jul 2014
    8:13am
    You should go into Politics NSY
    You have more brain than all the politicians put together :)
    Kato
    29th Jul 2014
    9:20pm
    Govt pays $330,000 for media briefing room.
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24574999/govt-pays-330-00-for-room-it-doesnt-use/


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