Abbott out of touch on renewables

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According to a recent Oxfam report, Tony Abbott’s claim that coal is “good for humanity” is out of step with how the rest of the world sees the fossil fuel.

The Powering Up Against Poverty study states that the international shift away from fossil fuels is happening faster than most would have predicted. It has also found that coal power could be responsible for numerous health problems – even premature deaths – and is ineffective in delivering electricity to the world’s poorest communities.

The report also shows that coal is the single biggest driver of climate change.

One in seven people of the world’s population are without power. The Prime Minister believes that fossil fuels will not only be the power source of choice for the next few decades, but also that it will raise living standards in developing nations whilst bolstering the Australian economy.

Oxfam disagrees. The author of the report, Dr Simon Bradshaw is concerned about Mr Abbott’s “myopic focus” on the coal industry.

“Coal is the single biggest contributor to climate change, the impacts of which are most felt by poorer people through floods, drought, cyclones and changes to food patterns,” he said. “We can clearly see in rural areas, and even rapidly growing urban populations, that renewable energy is a much more affordable and healthy solution for developing countries than coal.”

It’s quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants, which means that renewable energy is actually a cheaper option for powering rural and remote areas.

Backing up the report’s findings that coal is detrimental to the health of the world community, the UK medical journal Lancet has also conducted studies of its own, and found that shifting to renewable energy could prevent over seven million deaths a year due to air pollution.

The same study also found that coal could have “potentially catastrophic” global effects through climate change, which will cause floods, drought, extreme weather events, air pollution and the spread of disease. According to the World Health Organisation (WHO), climate change will cause around 250,000 deaths a year between 2030 and 2050.

The Oxfam report shows that global investment in renewables actually surpassed fossil fuels in 2011. It’s estimated that US$3.7 trillion will be invested globally in solar technology alone over the next 25 years.

Even China, Australia’s biggest coal export market, reduced its coal consumption by 2.9 per cent last year and spent US$83.3 billion on renewable energy projects in 2014. Another major market, India, has also set its own target of 175GW of energy to be derived from solar systems by 2022.

Last week, Labor announced that by 2030 it would aim for Australia to derive up to 50 per cent of its electricity supply from renewables – a goal Mr Abbott called “bizarre” because it will cost Australia $60 billion to achieve. But the International Monetary Fund (IMF) predicts that Australians will actually subsidise fossil fuel production by around $41 billion in 2015 alone, which equates to around two per cent of Australia’s GDP.

The IMF also revealed that, globally, we are supporting fossil fuels at a rate of $10 million per minute – which is more than the world spends on healthcare.

Read the Oxfam report.
Read more at The Guardian
Read more at The Sydney Morning Herald

Opinion: Gambling with your future

With all these statistics, reports and studies showing that renewable energy is the way of the future, surely it’s time Tony Abbott ended his love affair with coal. And even though the Oxfam report is dealing specifically with powering remote global communities, the trend is indicative of what is to come once renewable energy becomes even more affordable across the board.

Even two of our biggest export markets are seeing the light – light that is increasingly being powered by renewable energy. Yet Mr Abbott remains attached to the notion that coal power is still the way of the future.

The Oxfam report shows that global investment in renewables has surpassed fossil fuel investment. And with the cost of renewables dropping year-by-year, this trend will no doubt continue.

But although Mr Abbott’s attitude towards renewable energy is out of step with the rest of the world, his is not the only opinion that should be worrying to many retirees.

Speaking as chair of the Asset Owners Disclosure Project in October last year, former Liberal leader Dr John Hewson claimed that the world’s top 1000 pension funds invest around 55 per cent of their money in fossil fuel industries, and just two per cent in renewable industries.

That 55 per cent equates to $US41 trillion invested in an industry that could be superseded in the next two decades. This bet against climate change jeopardises the nest eggs and investments of many current and future retirees. Surely it’s time the global banks and pension funds start taking studies such as those conducted by Oxfam and the IMF a little more seriously.

After all, they’re gambling with your money and taking a risk on your future. They’re betting against a huge proportion of experts who say that climate change is a very real threat. Is it really a chance worth taking?

What do you think? Do you still feel that coal is the way of the future? Do you think it’s time the Government and global banks started to ‘hedge their bets’ on the possibility of climate change? Do you worry that your future finances could be affected by the lack of attention paid to the onset of climate change? Would you like to see Australia investing more in renewable energy? 

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Written by Leon Della Bosca

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    THE IS NO WAY CHINA, INDIA OR AUSTRALIA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET COULD ENJOY THE PROSPERITY THEY DO WITHOUT COAL, THANK GOD I TOO AM ‘OUT OF STEP’

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      110% AGREE. Renewables will play a part in the future, that’s life, but this hysteria about coal is ridiculous. Coal is, and will be, around for a long time.

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      We wouldn’t be where are without sailing ships either. Times and technology move on, not always for the better unfortunately, but they do not stand still.

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      Yes that’s right wondering, and many people in downtown Shanghai and Beijing would agree with you, if they were game enough to take off their particle masks for just a minute .

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      This sounds like the kind of ignorant comment you get from this coal sponsored and coal owned government.
      Whilst you are correct wondering you should also understand that in the past we had no other real alternative. This is no longer the case and the only thing holding up the coal industry is its control of governments all over the planet, with the exception of most of the third world where the future is the last thing on the minds of the incumbent population.
      Lets get real. THERE IS NO LONGER ANY NEED TO USE COAL other than as a supplement/standby measure. The reason that we are having this debate is because the coal industry and its wealthy owners want the status quo to remain so that their wealth continues on forever. But just like the horse and buggy days the life of coal is now short.

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      Why are you thanking God for a delusion, being out of step with mankind and your planet? Are you arrogant enough to think you know better than the majority of scientists and the people on earth? What if you are wrong, what’s the consequence – disaster for, not you, but the succeeding generations.
      What if you are right? Well some industries went down, some went up, the air is easier to breathe for many. So what’s the big deal? Risk major disaster for humanity or turn over some industries at worse. Get a grip on the full meaning of it all – you don’t evidence you have an inkling on the big picture.

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      The air is “easier to breath”? Go to China and to Europe and you’ll see that that is not the case at all.

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      Four Lumps od Export Quality Coal with Milk and Sugar please Waiter ! 🙂

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      I would like to see fully reconciled detailed financials on the $10billion Green Fund set up by the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd/Shorten/Milne government. Has the floor of the slaughter house been hosed down yet? Is it all over? If only there wasn’t a GFC the $10b could have been much much more!!

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      Spent on Importing New Australian’s 🙁 We wouldn’t vote for them ! And Neither will they ! 🙂

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    The fact that renewable energy sources can, in so many cases, be sited to produce energy close to the user really makes a strong case against large fossil fueled power stations which then require very expensive power transmission lines to transport the electricity. A large power stations have particular requirements that limits their positioning.
    This in itself, excluding the climate debate, really sounds the death knell for further coal fired power stations and also nuclear powered ones.
    A very large part of the electricity prices in Victoria, for example, is due to the prices charged by the owners of the Transmission Lines and there is an associated risk in this country of bush fires due to fallen lines. I won’t go into the reasons for the failure of the lines but numerous court cases have heard evidence on these matters.
    Given the way the rest of the world is moving then coal for power generation is very much on the nose and Abbott yet again shows himself to be out of touch, or sticking to demands made by political donors.
    Coking coal, used in steel production, is a different matter and should be separated out from the current debate.

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      Good factual comment Tom. We know and understand that there are vast amounts of coal in the ground and that there are certain uses for coal.
      But with the advent of household solar/battery storage systems powered by no cost power from the sun, the government is going to lose out on revenue…..just because, and maybe as you say, due to pressure from political donors.
      Solar packages are now a cheap investment.
      Car manufacturers like Mercedes and Audi are building ‘plug in hybrid’ vehicles that will also impinge on oil/petrol tax revenue.
      By all means mine what coal is needed, but don’t try to push the supposed need for coal upon us.
      The cost to mine and support shareholders of mining companies, sell to private power companies and support more shareholders, AND we pick up the bill is going to be a hard sell in a very short time. NOT a couple of decades.
      This government told us pre election there would be no new taxes but have talked of nothing else since gaining power.
      They told us that the age of ENTITLEMENT is over.
      BUT now we see just how the Liberal Royal Family operate as King Abbott (Canute?) Queen Bronwyn and Joker Joe really intend to operate if re elected.
      And with the shakers and movers of Labor still in place, it’s hard to forget the Gillard/Rudd debacle…and cost!
      So one wonders just WHO could MANAGE, TO THE VERY BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, THE BEST INTERESTS OF AUSTRALIA and NOT Party Power FIRST??

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      Correct Bes. Good post.
      But never assume that governments will not find some way of taxing you. I am thinking that a ‘service availability charge’ may turn up. There was once such a charge for water…whether you used it or not.
      Glad you understand whose interests this government is working for. Certainly not the national good.

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      I love “Service Availability Charge” Mick I sent them back a “Recipient Charge Bill” 🙂

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      Just because the coal is there doesn’t mean we have to sell the farm! We have cleaner smarter ways of generating and we should be at the front of the pack! Once our battery technology is improved, there will be no stopping us (remember the first computers-that type of progression will be the same! We can see who are the conservatives!

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      Your right Kaz !! 🙂 They are like a Little Fat Kid with a Big Bag of Lollies !! Sit down and eat the lot YUMMO!!, Stuff tomorrow !! We had enough GAS here to last Australia for 150 Years NOT LONG AGO !! Where is it now ? I cant find the figures but I’ll bet the barrels Half empty ? 🙁 “-(

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    Solar system installations are about to have another boom. But this time it will be driven by the private sector, which is the only way to go. Governments spend too much time claiming the moral high ground and too little time doing the one thing that is needed. Helping to make solar a commercially viable alternative without penalising and demonising all of us for doing what we have been doing for centuries.

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      Governments these days spend too much time pocketing our money for their luxurious lifestyles.

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      If I am critical of politicians it would have to be that we don’t have any true leaders. Where are the Hawkes and Howards that can take us on a journey to a desirable future?
      Bill Shorten has a visit from a sales rep selling solar panels and he gets all warm and fuzzy in a global sense.

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      ANother political advertisement sponsored by this government?

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      mick, did you eventually get your solar system installed?

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      I’ve got a Solar Radio ! But its a bit Crackly when it Snows !! 🙁

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      I go outside so that I do not have to be ripped off with electricity bills I choose not to afford. Works well parti.

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      I told you about this friend of mine with the solar farm. Those stupid Labor leaders in QLD virtually forced him to buy a block of land and erect it full of solar panels. He gets $100k pa and visits the block twice a year (tax deductible) to do any minor repairs etc. Anyway, the reason I asked about your installation was out of interest because of what I heard the other day.

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      Don’t tell us Frank ! They have worked out a way to Charge us for Sun Rays ! 🙁 🙁 Its only thing left on the FREE List !

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      Frank: what about that “stupid” Abbott and his cronies who repealed the Carbon Tax and now taxpayers put it $8 a year to make up the difference?
      As always you are trying to find fault with the left whilst your sponsor has no scrutiny. Troll!

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      $8 billion a year, not $8.

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    In the latter part of the 13th century, in an effort to reduce air pollution, England’s King Edward I threatened Londoners with harsh penalties if they didn’t stop burning sea-coal.

    It’s about time coal was replaced with clean renewable energy.

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      I agree Jackie. Threats will not work. They are a little like windmills.

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      Step 1: close down ALL brown coalmines.

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      mick how would it help to have another 200,000 additional unemployed?

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      I’ve got it ! 🙂 I’m gunna run Feral Cats in Generator Wheels !

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      There are not 200 000 Australians employed in the mining industry. The reality is that the Abbott government is throwing many tens of thousands of Australians out of work by closing down the renewables industry. The imbecilic conduct is obvious when you look at what other countries are investing in (it ain’t coal!!!) and the technologies of the future. This country is being sent the way of the dinosaurs. Then we will have mass unemployment.

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      🙂 🙂 That will suit Many of the New Arrivals Just Dandy Mick ! 🙂 🙂

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      Please try to calm down mick the world is not coming to an end and neither is this little country of 23 million burdened by the huge responsibility of saving the planet.
      55,000 plus 145,000 related jobs in coal mick.
      Nobody is closing down renewables especially the ones which work like solar. Labor in QLD is slowing down solar because it will take away the government revenue. The private sector wants to expand on the 1.5million panels by including businesses. In Australia when you get business involved things happen. The last Labor leader with the skill to get private enterprise to assist in moving mountains was Bob Hawke. Bob didn’t even attend the Labor love in last week, shows how much respect these current lunatics have lost.

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      The next anti Labor and anti Union rant. Cash for comment!
      Neither you or this government care about the future of our nation Frank.
      Your idea of solar is that the industry in its precarious infancy should compete on a level playing field with coal. But both you and the current government want renewables to fail. And if renewables look like getting off the ground then sabotage and anti renewables legislation will appear. The track record is already evident.
      We all need to look at how successful renewables have been in Queensland and South Australia. Your employer has of course lowered the sell back price to around 5 cents a KWH. Nix!!! So who is really profiting out of this? Answer: the big energy companies and coal companies who pay this government with election funding.
      If you want to talk about lunatics talk about the long term destruction being unleashed on the future of the country. This will be clearer within the next 2 decades when we become the dinosaurs of the planet with Australians crying out “how could this happen”?
      Maybe we need legislation to strip the Benedict Arnolds of this country of everything they own and perhaps that will make them think twice before they sell out the public for their vested interests.

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    renewables and nuclear are part of the mix, but so is coal. renewables need transmission cables too.
    alternatives to cheaper sustainable energy are a long way off yet.
    we already price ourselves out of the employment market we simply can’t afford to do it with energy too.

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      My renewables on my roof don’t need very long ones….

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      Re the transmission lines for renewables yes they do need cables but should be so much shorter hence much cheaper with significantly less power losses.
      Look at our countryside crissed crossed with huge pylons need to carry massive cables. This is part and parcel of generating from very large power stations which do need to be large to be economical.

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      Yes they do for you to sell us expensive electricity and to provide you when the sun don’t shine .

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      This thread is the normal political party broadcast from YLC based on the normal gloom and doom about global warming ..

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      Rooftop solar needs few transmission cables as it only feeds excess power back into the grid. Even better than that is the fact that those in the know are talking about local stations which service a street or two and use batteries.

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      Yes Its all doable now with Tesla Batteries !! Times are changing ! Tell the Uninformed in High Places ! 🙂 No ! Not Her se is too high ! 🙂 Wait till she comes back to Earth ! 🙂

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      Who, Bronny? Think she’s gone.

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    Maybe the so called ‘REST OF THE WORLD’ are the ones out of step. Who knows?
    When you look around Australia and see so many trees so much water around us and so small a population you wonder why we are being singled out as one of the worst polluters. The whole equation is based on pro rata to population, of course we are going to be worse than China or India or Europe but as a contributor to Global warming we are a minnow. We and everyone else just has to learn how to use this products in a more effective way. How much do all of those jet planes screaming around the globe contribute to global warming, how much do all of the explosions – detonations and gunshots in the mainly Arab world contribute to Global warming. In fact how much does the annual New Years fireworks contribute in one 24 hour period? Do you know these facts and figures?
    How much does the daily warfare in the Arab States cost those nations and how much are we expected to contribute to rehabilitate those peoples and those countries when nit is all over just so that can go out and do it again?
    These are questions as great as Global Warming but who is asking them and who will listen?

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      We are the worst polluter PER CAPITA. Make a statement.

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      What sort of pollution are you referring to ..

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      Clearly coal Pete.

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      Mick,
      I made a statement by asking the questions. Do you have the answers? If so make the statement to answer my questions and I will read them with great interest. However answer them with fair and reasoned comment with the information to back up your argument. I have already pointed out that Australia may be the worst polluter simply based on a per capita calculation. However put another 50 million people in Australia and this would no doubt change.

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      Your argument is flawed dougie. Remember that in our lifetime we did have a much smaller population. Nothing has changed other than the number of people. We are still in the top ranks of coal burners. That is the issue! And to add insult to injury when renewables threatened the holy coal lobby the government was changed and the good which was being done has been under attack and/or undone.
      They are the facts.

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      Mick,
      Facts like probabilities and statistics can be utilised to meet any argument. What you have said does not alter the fact that in the state of the world pollution and contribution to global warming, we are a minnow. Check this on the ABC Fact Check.

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      Ever heard the saying “lies, damned lies, and statistics”? We may be a minnow but WE WILL BE SINGLED OUT in the future if we are the worst per capita polluter. Be sure of that.

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    Oxfam produced a report which was produced by using respected experts and people “in the know” about renewables and the dangers of climate change and health. The comments here are made by people like Abbott who are not experts but seem to hold an opinion contary to all the evidence being produced. Prosperity is not the end game.

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      I wish I could share your faith in “Respected Experts and those in the know” (or would saying that they were ” in on the plot” be more appropriate?) History tells us that all of the scientific community of respected experts all agreed that the world was flat and that the Sun revolved around the Earth in agreement with the Pope. In those days, dissenters risked a one way trip to the stake for heresy.

      Now our current Pope Francis has jumped on the Global Warming/Climate Change bandwagon as well. Does the Pope qualify as a “respected expert in the know” or is he another emulator of Chicken Little warning us all that the sky is falling?

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      Only an idiot could possibly believe anything put out by a propaganda organisation like Oxfam.

      If it is in the Guardian, you know it is garbage by definition. They only print Greenie/lefty propaganda, hence this bit of garbage getting a run.

      The Europeans are running backwards, trying to reverse their fool flirtation with wind & solar. It has almost destroyed the best economy in the world, the German economy, & they have woken up to them selves. It is only the smarties riding the gravy train of alternate energy still fighting a rearguard action, as they see their cash cow disappearing into the cloud of common sense now rising in Europe that we are hearing with this rubbish.

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      Politicians are not to be believed. Especially not the current crop which has a history of one lie on another…..a disgrace to our way of life and to be cut out like the (dangerous) cancer it is.

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    If the current crop of renewable energy sources ( meaning solar and wind power) are so beneficial for humanity, why do they need government subsidies (at taxpayer expense) to exist? If the Greens, Al Gore, Mr Shorten and Co believe that these renewable energy schemes are so good, I would like to know how much money they have personally invested in them? surely, if we are going to meet Shorten’s dream of having 50% of Australia’s energy needs supplied when he promises with renewables, who is going to pay for them?

    Will the Chinese stop buying Australian houses and start investing in Australian wind farms? Does Mr Shorten foresee when the nations in the developing world will go to solar or wind power for their energy needs by 2030, or 2040 or 2050? And who is going to pay for that? Will Shorten’s union boss mates start using Union funds to invest in wind farms and solar electricity programs instead of their own selfish interests? Like Craig Thomson did, for example, or to get elected to parliament?

    It is all well and good for Bill Shorten to tell us all how good renewable energy sources are going to be for Australians, the rest of the world and all of the future generations untold, but unless he and his supporters put their money where their mouths are, I shall remain unconvinced.

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      Use you noodle wally. New industries need a bit of help to get off the ground. A no brainer.
      What you miss is that renewable energy is FREE once you pay for the hardware. A great deal methinks.

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      Use you noodle wally. New industries need a bit of help to get off the ground. A no brainer.
      What you miss is that renewable energy is FREE once you pay for the hardware. A great deal methinks.

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      wally, Mr Shorten said Al Gore told him there is no reason why Australia cannot lead the way. I reckon Al Gore must be very persuasive. He has Shorten all excited.

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      And Clive got Al Gore excited enough to jump on a plane pronto. He had 10 billion reasons to speak with Clive urgently.

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      “What you miss is that renewable energy is FREE once you pay for the hardware. A great deal methinks. “

      mick, many would dispute that.

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      Another paid advertisement from the government?

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    Matt Ridley on the horrific cost in cash and lives of the global warming movement:

    Climate policy is already doing harm. Building wind turbines, growing biofuels and substituting wood for coal in power stations — all policies designed explicitly to fight climate change — have had negligible effects on carbon dioxide emissions. But they have driven people into fuel poverty, made industries uncompetitive, driven up food prices, accelerated the destruction of forests, killed rare birds of prey, and divided communities. To name just some of the effects. Mr Goklany estimates that globally nearly 200,000 people are dying every year, because we are turning 5 per cent of the world’s grain crop into motor fuel instead of food: that pushes people into malnutrition and death. In [Britain], 65 people a day are dying because they cannot afford to heat their homes properly, according to Christine Liddell of the University of Ulster, yet the government is planning to double the cost of electricity to consumers by 2030.

    As Bjorn Lomborg has pointed out, the European Union will pay £165 billion for its current climate policies each and every year for the next 87 years. Britain’s climate policies — subsidising windmills, wood-burners, anaerobic digesters, electric vehicles and all the rest — is due to cost us £1.8 trillion over the course of this century. In exchange for that Brobdingnagian sum, we hope to lower the air temperature by about 0.005?C — which will be undetectable by normal thermometers. The accepted consensus among economists is that every £100 spent fighting climate change brings £3 of benefit.

    UPDATE

    There has been no real warming of the atmosphere for 17 years. There has been no increase in cyclones, and little evidence of a worldwide increase of droughts. Most of the low-lying Pacific and Indian ocean islands we were once warned were drowning are either stable or growing in size. The world’s main food crops have had record harvests. The Arctic has not melted away, after all, and the Antarctic sea ice has been at record levels. Our dams are as full as ever.

    In short, the catastrophe that warmists and our top scientific bodies have warned of for years has not come. It is now doubtful it will ever come.

    Yet to this day, journalists, green groups, AMA president Brian Owler, politicians and many (but far from all) scientists insist global warming is a massive threat and continue to push vastly expensive schemes that would actually not stop global warming even if it was occurring.

    Why?

    Steven Hayward suggests an answer:

    Try this out as a thought experiment: what would happen if, tomorrow morning, we had definitive proof that catastrophic climate change was impossible, wasn’t happening, and would never happen. Would Al Gore breathe a big sigh of relief…

    Of course not. The general reaction from environmentalists and the left would be a combination of outrage and despair. The need to believe in oneself as part of the agency of human salvation runs deep for leftists and environmentalists who have made their obsessions a secular religion. And humanity doesn’t need salvation if there is no sin in the first place. Hence human must be sinners—somehow—in need of redemption from the left…

    Activist liberal elites always need a Grand Cause to satisfy their messianic needs, or for the political equivalent of a dopamine rush. For such people, the only thing worse that catastrophic climate change is the catastrophe of not having a catastrophe to obsess over—and use as an excuse to extend political control over people and resources…

    UPDATE

    A warmist comes to praise:

    Alan Jones, Ray Hadley, Andrew Bolt, Miranda Devine and the like have done a very good job of linking climate change to bongo-playing, weed-smoking hippy lefties.
    Aw, shucks. But, really, I couldn’t have done it without the help of those “lefties”

    And there is much more info I could provide – Gillard gathered in over $6b from carbon tax and we know now some $4b has been wasted on wave generators and other projects that did not work – and the money wasted made no difference to carbon emissions. And we in NSW have a labor de sal plant that cost over $1.2b and has not produced 1 litre of water yet (OK dams are full but Fkannery said they would be empty by now) and for the privilege we all pay $90 a year per person to maintain plant – madness and a waste of taxpeyers money.
    When these people talk about renewables they won’t discuss nucleur or hydro options and obscure the fact that coal is massively cheaper now and in the forseeable future – and for many Australians is a job (heaven knows we need jobs) – I read that the mining sector (covers coal) is 3rd largest employer in Australia.

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      But that ain’t what Al Gore, the Pope and Bill Shorten are telling us.

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      Further facts:-

      Please don’t forget to note that 95% of the world is powered by fossil fuels, nuclear or evil dams and their hydroelectricity.

      The remaining 5% comes from others – a group which includes burning wood, tyres, garbage, as well as the ‘green’ power ‘solutions’ of windmills and solar.

      Also 2012/ 13 Australian coal exports:

      Thermal coal- 182 million tonnes

      Metallurgical coal- 154 million tonnes (used in used in iron and steel production, you know the stuff used in cars, bridges, railways, buildings, reinforced concrete, surgical instruments etc) which the rest of the world want from us

      Next point – the amount of taxes government gets from coal is massive – if we stopped using coal where would the money come from to spend on expensive renewables such as solar or wind. These climate change greenies just don’t think things through.
      Here is a challenge to al the Greenies out there:-
      Just switch the coal fired powerstations off for a week, just one week will save a few tonnes of CO2 going into the atmosphere (and make no difference to the climate) and by the end of that week 99.9% of Australians will be BEGGING to switch the coal back on, plus a few alarmists will either recant or be the first up against the wall once the lights come back on.
      Go on do it flick the switch and end this argument today!!

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      wally: a few observations:

      1. Al Gore – a hard one. Who knows. Gore does have interests in renewables but I am not sure if he made those on his journey or if in fact he is talking up his investments.
      2. The Pope – the Pope is little more than a representative but the Catholic Church has the best honest and informed advice money can buy. I’d put money on the fact that the Pope’s message is not politically motivated.
      3. Bill Shorten – so what is in it for Shorten? You’ll get Frank crapping on about unions but then unions have members who mine coal as well.
      Not sure what you are on about wally. Lets play the ball rather than the man…unless it is resident troll Frank….who is fair game. Where are the smilies?

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      Isn’t it amazing! Tony Abbott is vilified because his Christian faith dictates much of his beliefs and he will not change his mind on issues such as same sex marriage, in line with the teachings of his Church. Now the Pope comes out with a statement on climate change, (a topic on which he is hardly an authority) and suddenly Tony Abbott is vilified because he does not immediately fall into line with the opinions of the Pope.

      No one does hypocrisy like the Left does hypocrisy!

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      Tony Abbott a christian? Quite amusing. They don’t call Abbott the mad monk for no reason.
      The level of intentional and destructive dishonesty which comes from Abbott and his government has no basis in Christianity. If you want to know why this government refuses to acknowledge climate change then first ask where Liberal Party election funding comes from.
      Hypocrisy from the left? Because Labor believes in climate change? Yeah right.

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      This the most bogan, bizarre summation I’ve seen thus far. Congratulations! Tuck yourself in the blanket of ignorance, with your favorite ‘experts’ like Bolt & Co. It’s warming, isn’t it, to nest with like minds, even if thay are at the sess pit of incapacity to actually examine the evidence, nor to even consider if their frivolous opinion, contra to science, could possibly be wrong.

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      Yes. I sort have had to smile when Bolt was used as an example. Bizarre.

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    Saying that Tony Abbott is ‘out of touch’ is like saying the dinosaurs are old.

    Abbott is the anachronistic, headstrong leader the Australian electorate were stupid enough to vote for. Now everyone is suffering from his 19th century attitudes. Well it doesn’t really wash. I think the electorate danced to his misogynistic and abusive tune last time and they will be silly enough to vote him back in again. The proof of that is that we are all happily accepting his bulldust about security issues and the need for making our society highly represssed. This country is no longer a liberal democracy thanks to Brandis, Abbott, Dutton, Morrison et al. And yet still the electorate accepts more and more repressive legislation. It will not stop before this, the worst government in my memory, takes us back to the fifties. What next? The resurrection of the white Australia policy and nuclear energy?

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      what utter rubbish – worst government – that clearly goes to Rudd and Gillard and there are several leading labor figures such as Richo and Rerguson who say so and they have forgotten more about labor than most know then there is Tim Wilson who puts McMahon as worst since WW2 but only marginally worse than Rudd /Gillard. Abbottt is weak on economic matters but he is much better long term for Australia than the alternatives. I grew up in late 40s and then 50s and it wasn;t all bad and of course Australia was blessed with the best PM we have ever had. The bookies have Coalition at $1.60 to win next election and shortening and they hae always got it right since they were allowed to bet on elections from late 90s

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      Richardson is an opportunist who would sell his own grandmother for any sort of attention, Ferguson is just sore because he could not get the miners tax deal that he wanted. Wilson is a blatant liberal sycophant and Abbott admirer. Rudd and Gillard were definitely bad as PM’s because of their stoushes, but their governments actually did many worthwhile things eg in education. I am not a great fan of either Labor or Liberal at the moment, but there has never been a government that told as many lies, broke as many promises or done as many backflips as this one. Meantime Abbott’s lies about climate change, renewables and world security are ruining this country and this country’s reputation overseas.
      Incidentally, Mr Menzies, (aka Pig Iron Bob) ruled a much more stable environment in the fifties, but did not do so well when selling iron to Japan before WW2, which came back to Australia in the form of….?

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      Here we go again. Playing the man.
      The issue is clear. The Abbott government’s owners are also clear. So lets not try throwing the normal mud guys but understand the players for who are what they are.
      The ONLY reason Abbott and his cronies are killing off renewables is that the fossil fuel industry is sponsoring them at election time. If that were not available and if retiring ministers were never offered jobs in the mining industry then we would not be having this debate.

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      Don’t despair andromeda – they said that Can-do Newman couldn’t lose the next election and he did / because of the same arrogance and ignorance the federal government is displaying.

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      Newman sold out hid state. Abbott is selling out the nation.

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      Hell have to trodden on, or there will be nothing left for the Incumbents to sell ! 🙁

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