Australia heads to the polls

Australians have 33 days to decide, with a date announced for the federal election.

Australia heads to the polls

Kevin Rudd has announced that Australia will head to the polling booths on Saturday 7 September, leaving just the obligatory minimum 33 days for election campaigning.

Visiting the Governor General, Quentin Bryce, yesterday, Kevin Rudd has put an end to speculation on the date of the Federal Election. Following protocol, the Governor General must issue a writ at least 33 days prior to the agreed date and this she did, with just one day to spare.

Just days after announcing that the amended budget predictions would see Australia with a $30.1bn deficit, Kevin Rudd outlined the economic landscape facing the country and has asked that voters allow Labor to "Manage the big economic challenges which lie ahead." In an email to Labor Party supporters, the Prime Minister asked everyone to “chip in $5” to help his campaign, which he referred to as being “one hell of a fight”.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott accepted the challenge with gusto, asking Australians not whom they trusted, but “Who can you rely on to be build a better future? "Who do you think is more fair dinkum?" he said.

A Seven News/Reachtel poll last night put voters in the Coalition's camp, with the party ahead on 52 per cent, compared to Labor’s 48 per cent in the two-party preferred vote. Tony Abbott is marginally ahead in the prime minister stakes, with a two per cent better polling compared to Kevin Rudd’s 49 per cent. And the Coalition also trumped Labor on the economy, with the poll falling 60/40 per cent in its favour.

With the advantage of knowing in advance what date he had planned for the election, Kevin Rudd challenged Tony Abbott to a debate on Sky News tonight and has offered each of the networks a Sunday debate. Tony Abbott would only say he was open to negotiation on having more than one campaign debate.

Read more at www.ABC.net.au/news.

Watch Kevin Rudd’s election announcement.

Watch Tony Abbott’s response to election date announcement.

Opinion: It’s on

In Kevin Rudd’s own words, or at least those of a savvy media advisor, “It’s on”, ‘It’ being the 2013 federal election, a whole week earlier than we previously thought.

Proving that he’s his own man and in perhaps his last act of defiance against the Labor Party, which was led by Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd has called a federal election seven days earlier than the 14 September date earmarked by his predecessor. Petty? That’s for you to decide.

What is apparent is that Kevin Rudd is embracing his Government’s mistakes, on the economy and the party in-fighting, and is playing the humble card by admitting he is indeed “the under dog’. But what we must remember is that this position is not the work of Kevin Rudd himself, but the media advisors who helped President Barrack Obama secure his second term in office.

In asking Labor supporters to “chip in $5” to help with his campaign, he is not only stealing a very clever idea used by Obama in his recent battle to the Whitehouse, but he is also reverting to the class warfare rejected by senior Labor MPs. By stating that "Abbott and a few millionaires will out-spend us", Rudd is trying to assure voters that Labor is serious about the economy, understanding that this is not the time to be seen spending big.

Attacking Tony Abbott’s negativity, Rudd said that he would “bang on with the same negativity that we're all sick of.” Meanwhile, he himself has a "positive plan”, which will provide help for manufacturing and ease cost of living pressures. This I cannot wait to hear and can only question why he has kept it to himself for so long.

The only positive I can see right now is that we at last have an end in sight. Yes, we will continue to be subjected to the same inane dribblings and pot-shots as we have for the last three years, but now they will have a purpose, to convince Australia that they really do have a ‘choice’ of who will be our next Prime Minister.  And we only have 33 days to listen to each side extol their own virtues with little regard for the serious issues facing the country.

Is 33 days enough for each side to truly address the issues which will decide this election? Or have you already made up your mind who will be getting your vote?





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    Pass the Ductape
    5th Aug 2013
    10:24am
    Can't wait! I've had more than enough of this egoistical moron.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    5:25pm
    Only to be replaced by en even more egotistical half wit, that will sell this wonderful country out to FOREIGN interest, at the blink of an eye.

    NO stay with the one that has put Australia at the TOP of the WORLD in all things that matter to a country.

    PLUS we get to keep Labor's NBN which is the best for you, me & Australia and ..... wait for it.... it is FREE to ALL Australian. If Murdoch's man gets in, then you will have to pay up to $5000 to get SUBSTANDARD fibre to the home. Murdoch's NFN will cost Australians $29 BILLION which will never be recouped, as Labor's NBN will be and will be, sorry is right now, OUT OF DATE and will put Australia back 20 years!!!

    That alone totally reinforces who will run this country if Abbott gets in.... It will be MURDOCH and his cronies and THEY don' give a B*GGER about YOU or ME. They are only interested in RAPING this country and filling their pockets.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html

    Go to this link it tells ALL!!!!!!!!
    aquatrek
    6th Aug 2013
    4:38pm
    well, we always knew where you stood Mussitate the communist. Most other sane rational reasoned thinkers will let the two opponents air there plans and strategies and THEN cast their final decision. What else do you have to add - you always have more - coomon - spit it out man - like you really do mean it - dont go halfway - you will feel better afterwards.
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    4:49pm
    aquatrek, be gentle with him, as Union Lovers go to pieces if they can't get their own way. We will all feel better afterwards, if the Libs get in without any help from the Gum Leaf chewers.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    11:33pm
    Two little hacks in two little caps.... talking nothing but bulllllllldust.

    If you talk sense they simply act dense and retract into nothing but bullllllldust.

    Putting the two together doesn't improve the tether because all you have is MORE bullllldust.

    Intelligence lacking but there is no slacking.... the pile is growing of bulllllldust.

    The evidence reveals that the drongoes are real....SO what can you expect BUT more bulllllldust.

    Just a little rhyme, I am sure is fine because you are full of bullllllldust.

    Hell I could go on line after line but that would merely add...... to the bulllllldust.
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    11:43pm
    Mussitate, the fact that it takes you a 1000 words to say what others say, tells me you are like the Labor Govt and lack confidence. Enjoy 2nd prize on the 7th September.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    7:53am
    Mussitate...your opinions concerning Murdoch and the comment I made about K Rudd would suggest one of us is certainly mired in bulllllldust. You were right not to go on line after line because frankly, any further comment suggesting that no-one seems to have the intelligence to read between the lines - Murdochs or otherwise and therefore have the intelligence to make up their own mind - could have meant that you were covering yourself so deep in your own rhetoric bullllldust, you would not have been able to dig yourself out! Did you once work for Murdoch and he gave you the sack - or is it that you only believe anything and everything written contrary to his actions?
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    8:57am
    Me thinks Mussitate that you have too much time on your hands!
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:02pm
    He is one of the reds under our beds.
    Reppie
    5th Aug 2013
    10:39am
    I'm with you Ductape, had a gut full of bloody politics and even more of politicians. Can't wait for it all to be finally over, and hopefully the inane negative crap will cease for a while at least.

    It's finally at the stage where I barely even care who wins or not, as long as we can finally get a break from behaviour from pollies which is worse than any fighting, lying, back-stabbing which if it were our kids acting this way, we would put them in the naughty corner for a considerable time.

    Bring it on, and then give us some peace at last I reckon!!
    bubyshka
    5th Aug 2013
    4:44pm
    there's no real peace from the the Political Morons, if you don't have to suffer from one fool there's always another waiting in the wings to have his go gggggrrrrrrrrrrrr.
    They all suck. Why doesn't kevin enlist a few oldies, to show him some enlightenment. Why go to the USA I'm sure we have enough knowledge right here in Australia on how our beloved Country should be Run. But they don't Ask US.
    We not good enough eh! or something like that.
    I'm sure as hell not telling you who i'm voting for but i'm sure it won't be for that fool that likes to tweet a lot.... Tell him to grow UP!!
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    5:34pm
    No...wrong, there are some that care for this country & it's people & others - Murdoch's boy - who simply want to hand YOUR heritage over to those who will rape & pillage this country to fill their own pockets!!!!

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html

    Go to this link & read.

    Rudd's economic policies (followed by Gillard) has put Australia at the top of the world.... and how do YOU proposed to reward him??????? You want to replace him with Murdoch's marionette, so that YOU get poorer and the wealthy take over OUR democracy and FILL THEIR POCKETS.

    THEY are definitely NOT ALL THE SAME!!!!
    lorra
    5th Aug 2013
    10:56am
    I agree Ductape- get rid of the moron and his useless Party- then we'll have to spend years rebuilding Australia.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    5:40pm
    Australia has been governed with BRILLIANCE and is on TOP of the WORLD in ALL things economic. Never in modern history has ANY country ticked ALL the positive boxes at the same time. RUDD's government did this in times when EVERY OTHER government is failing because of the GFC. It is NOT good, it is BL*ODY brilliant.

    The only place MURDOCH's boy will take you is down, down, down. He can't feed the avarice pockets of MURDOCH & his cronies, as well as the average Australian. Marionette Abbott will sell you, this country AND our very democracy out without a blink of the eye.

    Copy & paste this link... And read some truths:

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html
    Paddles
    5th Aug 2013
    6:51pm
    Mussitate

    You are not real...........you can't be real but I think that I have worked it out.
    You are one of those warped individuals who get their rocks off by inciting feelings of disbelief!
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    7:11pm
    Paddles

    You are merely a Liberal/Murdoch HACK, put there to spit poison at anyone that opposes your foreign bosses and can see plainly the pathetic PROPAGANDA that is spun.

    How am I wrong....little protractor, we have the BEST ECONOMY in the world. We have one of the LOWEST debts and every country in the world is envious of Australia.

    Go on...... tell me I am wrong.... you can't .... you are simply a mouth for Murdoch's marionette party.

    5th Aug 2013
    11:27am
    Agree with you Ductape. Krudd is Australias biggest liar and ego maniac. The election is a forgone conclusion so why is the Dudd spending more tax payers millions on being a loser. Has'nt he done enough damage with 400 billion in debt. How long will he take to pay that off and still blowing out at the rate of 3 billion each week. He has temporarily destroyed Australia and this sort of blow out will take many years to rectify. Tony please save us.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    5:56pm
    The debt is the smallest of any democratic first world nation, IN THE WORLD! And we have a AAA credit rating - the USA & the UK couldn't manage this!!!!!!

    Abbott didn't even understand that there was a difference between Government debt and Private debt.... He kept putting the two figures together! How stupid is he!!! You think he is going to be better than Rudd .... Errrrhh... How can you go higher than the highest spot, you know the one we are currently sitting in!

    Rudd who orchestrated Australia's rise to prominence in the world because he put Australia's economy at the very TOP of the WORLD in ALL economic aspects, ALL at the same time......never been done before.

    Australia is traveling in a limousine and YOU want us to elect a worn out mini cab....just so that Murdoch can pass us in OUR limousine.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    8:52am
    You seem to have Murdoch on the brain. He does not run the country. Krudd and his useless mob do. Worst government in Australias history. Tony, please please save us.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    11:47pm
    Surfer
    OW.....now you ARE doing it tough. Enough twaddle and slobber..... get to the real stuff and LIST all the problems with our current government and I will find it very easy to equate it with the MASSIVE WORLD ACCLAIMED ACHIEVEMENTS that this Labor government and both its PMs have achieved.

    You have NOTHING but baseless words and mudracking.... that's it!

    THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT ABBOT (MURDOCH'S MARIONETTE) CAN DO THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO IMPROVING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE!!!!! BUT HE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE AWAY FROM US.

    The PUBLIC health and educations systems denigrated.....ABC gone..... SBS gone .... Institute of Sport gone..... (massively wealthy and useful) CSIRO gone.... NBN scrapped for an out of date and USELESS NFN that can not be upgraded NOR can its $29 Billion cost be recouped...... simply so Murdoch can protect his profits from the MONOPOLY Foxtel.

    A vote for ABBOTT is a vote to shoot yourself in the foot!!!

    You are just a LIBERAL HACK Surfer, here to simply spoof and follow the well laid out methods that Murdoch employs which is simply to SPIT POISON & LIE!!!! Not hard anyone can do it.
    peajay01
    5th Aug 2013
    11:34am
    " Can't wait until it's all over" clearly reflects the level of political apathy and ignorance that exists in this wonderful country of ours.....
    When we knock our politicians remember WE ELECTED THEM !!!! There is a saying "people get the politicians they deserve".... What des that say about us ??? Peajay1
    Hasbeen
    5th Aug 2013
    12:06pm
    Hay peajay01, who elected them?
    bubyshka
    5th Aug 2013
    4:46pm
    Well thats a load of rubbish, cause they only get alect on preferences 99%percent of the time. Find out how that works before you say silly things mmm pj
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    6:10pm
    Bubyshka
    The same goes for the Libs, dear boy. Our electoral system is the most democratic in the world!!!!! The Libs didn't get in because MOST people didn't want them in. You have a problem with that?????

    peajay01
    In regard to us deserving our politicians, I am not really sure that we really do deserve RUDD. He has given US, the ORDINARY PEOPLE, THE BEST BUT all we can do is GRIPE and WHINE and allow Murdoch's propaganda to sway our good judgement.

    EVERYONE
    Think....think....then think some more. Do the wealthy elite (Murdoch & his cronies) EVER do anything for anyone EXCEPT themselves. They will remove your good living, your rights, your democracy at the blink of an eye AND the will fill their pockets, take power and laugh at your stupidity.
    LENYJAC
    6th Aug 2013
    10:19am
    GET RID OF PREFERENCE VOTING... ONE VOTE ONE PARTY OR PERSON??PREFERENCE VOTING STINKS
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    11:59pm
    Preference VOTING is one of the MOST DEMOCRATIC voting system in the world and it certainly does NOT stink.

    Here is how it works (simple example):
    33% vote for YELLOW (extreme right wing); 33% vote for BLACK (moderates); 34% vote for PURPLE (extreme left wing). Under a NON preference voting that would mean that PURPLE would run the country EVEN THOUGH 66% of the people voted against PURPLE and PURPLE didn't even get 50% of the votes.

    This 'first passed the post' is Highly UNDEMOCRATIC and will allow minority parties to rule the whole of Australia when most Australians do not want them there.

    Under preferential voting, people are effectively asked "if your party does NOT get in who would be your second choice". The effects of this would look something like this:
    33% primary + 15% preferential = 48% vote for YELLOW
    33% primary + 50% preferential = 83% vote for BLACK
    34% primary + 35% preferential = 69% vote for PURPLE

    Hence, BLACK would run the country because MOST people preferred BLACK to either YELLOW or PURPLE and therefore represents the MAJORITY of the people and is therefore more democratic and fair.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    8:08am
    Mussitate .....The Labour team got in simply because they did deals with Greens - which by the way, many of them Labour reneged on once they got in. In simple terms, Labour was much better at applying a higher number of lies and false promises than the Libs and the Greens were too dumb to consider otherwise.
    Ted
    5th Aug 2013
    11:50am
    Wouldn't it be great if we had a party that actually cared more about the future of this country and its citizens/people than they did about themselves? We have a choice: which one will do the least worst job? Its not even a case of the better job. Clearly neither really care about this country, they really care about themselves and their perks and who has the last say on an issue, and of course, the constant bickering and name calling. There is no difference between a pack of school kids arguing in a school yard and what they have displayed over the last three years, which intensified over the last 18 months. Both parties are too blame, both have played their role, and quite frankly both parties have lost our respect as there is noting to respect about either party. I don't think either party deserve to be in office. Their conduct has been disgraceful and they have made us a world wide laughing stock...all because we put up with this behaviour. If Egypt deposed their democratically elected government after 12 months of not achieving, what should we have done with six years of it? I think voters need to send a clear message, clean up your behaviour and start focusing on running the country and forget about the election and winning the election. Oh by the way I think the fraud and corruption needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency. Perhaps if we stopped the life long perks and the outrageous wages etc we might actually get some people in there who care and want to make a difference!
    Oh for a party that is worthy of our votes, our time and attention.
    Aloysius
    5th Aug 2013
    3:30pm
    And the Greens are worse.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    6:23pm
    Beg to differ Ted, RUDD has given a lot to this country and I am NOT normally a Labor supporter BUT I do give credit where credit is due. His policies and economic strategies (short, medium & long term) were diligently followed by Gillard with a few of her own thrown in.

    Australia has been put at the very top of the world by these policies and the only thing that we are offered in his place is Murdoch's marionette who will simply sell the Australian people OUT. You only need to look at Labor's NBN and compare to Murdoch's pathetic NFN proposition.....puts Australia back 20 years BUT keeps Foxtel alive and millions in Murdoch's pocket.... See this link:

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html

    Aloysius
    You are merely a Liberal Murdoch HACK, so not much point in discussing further with you.
    Aloysius
    5th Aug 2013
    9:21pm
    Wrong again Mussitate. As usual. Take off the blinkers my friend. I have voted for both major parties when I have decided that one or other had the better policies. Usually it's the best of 2 bad options. This time it's totally unbelievable, mud slinging Labor against adequate but worth a try Liberals.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    12:20am
    Aloysius
    Let's put pay to your claims of unbiased assessment of parties and their policies. It is a lot of total ROT and you know it.

    If you did utilise any form of unbiased analysis, instead of being a Liberal Murdoch HACK, you would be quoting the HUMONGOUS WORLD ACCLAIMED achievements of Labor & Rudd BUT you do not.

    Secondly, you say that Liberals have better policies..... WHAT POLICIES???? They have not given sufficient details of their policies to warrant comparison. What of their major policy of REDUCING PUBLIC SERVICES and GOVERNMENT SPENDING..... this means LESS for the average Australian and certainly LESS for the average pensioner!

    Why don't you list all the WORLD ACCLAIMED ACHIEVEMENTS of LABOR & RUDD and then put next to each achievement HOW Liberal policies will IMPROVE upon these policies.

    OH! and don't forget to show the TOTALLY detrimental affect the LIBERAL'S NFN will have on Australia and how the LIBERALS will be throwing away $29 Billion on a system that is already 'out of date' and will need to be replaced with LABOR'S NBN within 5 years..... no, right now (Canada are currently pulling out Liberal's NFN and installing Labor's NBN). If you want a SUB-STANDARD fibre to the home you will have to upgrade Liberal's NFN and pay about $5000 for each and every household.

    ALSO, explain HOW it will be BETTER for Australia if we are put back 20 years instead of being ahead of the world in IT and innovation, JUST because MURDOCH will be out of pocket with FOXTEL AND why we the Australian people are NOT allowed to get the BEST internet system in the world....FREE.... to our door.

    I await your full response with comparisons with abated breath.
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    11:57am
    Will somebody please ask the KRUDD why he thinks it is fair to put up the price of cigarettes for tax paying Australians, and then give free cigarettes to 1000s of boat people. Yes people of Australia Kevin Rudd really hates you. I will forget about the tax paying pensioners that have to pay for their mobile phone, while 1000s of boat people get mobile phones for free. You would have to be a classic sucker to vote for the Labor Party.
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    12:05pm
    Also us pensioners have to wait something like 2 to 5 years for a Hip or Knee Replacement, does anybody know how long boat people have to wait?
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    12:25pm
    Agree with all you say Young Simmo. It staggers me why these illegal boat people get the treatment they do while many pensioners that have paid tax all their lives are treated like second class citizens. Just a bloody disgrace. Who is the dick head responsible for dishing out of this money to the boat people. He should be named or is it just Rudds idea. Our pensioners should be on the pigs back with record income in previous years, instead of worrying about how they will pay their power bill. Nothing seems normal anymore.
    slapsy
    5th Aug 2013
    1:46pm
    Between 2004 and 2007 I had both hips replaced.That period included 12 months of treatment for an infection following the first replacement.So you are talking a load of s**t Young Simmo.
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    1:55pm
    slapsy, you are the one talking a load of s**t, are you sure that wasn't a brain replacement that you had. Now I will spell it out for your new brain. I was referring to pensioners on Medicare with no private.
    Do you get it now S L O P S Y?
    Boy some people just don't catch on.
    slapsy
    5th Aug 2013
    2:58pm
    Young Simmo
    Who said anything about private health insurance?
    Now,how does that saying go,"Fools rush in where ......................"?
    And what's more,all of that treatment did not cost one cent.
    Thank goodness for state Labor governments
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    3:04pm
    slapsy, thanks for confirming it was a brain replacement. I waited two and a half years for a knee replacement, and I know a person who waited 12 months for a Triple Bypass. I had Medibank Private and waited 7 days for my Triple Bypass, so all your rubbish doesn't hold water.
    HOLA
    5th Aug 2013
    3:31pm
    I had an angiogram in July,2011 and was informed I would need a triple by-pass. Within 8 weeks I had an appointment to see a Cardio. Specialist and a date was set for the operation. It was done in November and I was home in 6 days. I am a Pensioner and was not treated any different to a Private Patient. I suppose being a good looker is a definite advantage eh.!!
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    3:44pm
    Yes HOLA, life is a raffle, and it seems so is our Medical Service.
    bubyshka
    5th Aug 2013
    4:53pm
    gee you were the lucky one Slapsy cause i waited two years to have my back surgery, and they tell me they won't operate on my other part of the spine. Probably cause they got no smart surgeons to do it???Cause what i need doing get done to others quickly, usually they are working ppl. But I guess it don't matter that i slugged away and worked my little heart off and traumatised my spine. Now i'm just another number waiting to Die......NOT impressed really?
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    5:45pm
    young simmo,
    the boat people are on the top of the list........when my hubbie was in hospital sydney 4 months back one of the Asylum Seeker was given a private room no waiting list further more I cant say too much about this case.........but he didnt end up having any surgery.the principle is their given the bloody silver spoon and the key to the door os Australia with out earning it................thats ALL the politicians for us
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    5:57pm
    That doesn't surprise me tia-maria, what does disappoint me is the Current Affairs programs like Today-Tonight, A Current Affair and 7.30 are all too gutless to ask the obvious questions like:
    (A) Why put up the cost of cigarettes for Aussies and give the boat people free cigarettes?
    (B) Why give the Boat people free mobile phones and make our pensioners pay for mobile phones?
    (C) Why give boat people free food and accommodation and make Aussies pay?
    (D) Why give boat people immediate medical attention and make Aussies pay?
    (E) Why waste our Navies time when one of their boats tip over, every one that drowns probably saves us a Quarter Million dollars.
    I could go on and on and on, but why should I when our TV interviewers have no idea of how to do their job.
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    6:05pm
    Young Simmo, thats right mate and we cant do anything about it...... as the Government dont give a damm in hell mate,.............. we worked and paid taxes all our lives............ to be treated with dis-respect from Politicians...........During any elections I ask all the pensioners on this web site what does the Liberal OR Labor parties have in the offering for the Retired Pensioners of Australia???????????????
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    8:54pm
    Old Simmo
    Your attitudes would make Murdoch proud. Don't worry about the millions of economic immigrants to Australia, legal or otherwise, let's just concentrate on those REFUGEES who have a LEGAL right to apply for sanctuary in Australia. They wouldn't even fill the MCG in Melbourne.... it is merely a Howard ploy to distract and get the racist ticket into government. You obviously swallow Old Simmo..... took the bait hook, line and sinker.

    This situation will change shortly with the PMs plan to divert them to PNG where they are needed, will have a home and we provide AID to PNG in a way that is good for all. Excellent really. Noticed you haven't mentioned this rather good solution to this VERY SMALL problem. Have you noticed Murdoch's media is now running "poor refugee" and "how good they are for Australia" articles...... that's because the PMs plan is so good they can't pull it to pieces!!!

    Now, on to HEALTH. It was the Libs, mainly HOWARD who introduced another tier to health and education. WE the average Australian, now pay good taxpayers money so that PRIVATE health institutes can provide a better and more exclusive service to the wealthy. The wealthy now have their own health and education PAID for by the average Australian who can't afford to use these facilities - THAT IS LIBERAL POLICY. You mugs then carry on about how the PUBLIC health and education has been run down and has long waiting times.

    The PM is LOCKED INTO providing PRIVATE health & education BECAUSE of LIBERAL POLICIES ..... but ...... is endeavouring to build up our PUBLIC schools and health facilities. This takes time, simply because they had been so run down under LIBERAL.

    Now.... you act the total FOOL and blame the downgraded PUBLIC health & education systems on the PM and the refugees.

    It is SIMPLY LIBERAL POLICY that PUBLIC anything is UNDERFUNDED and PRIVATE is funded out of OUR, the average Australian taxpayer's pocket.
    HOLA
    6th Aug 2013
    8:34am
    MUSSITATE: I am always interested to read your comments. You are so knowledgeable on politics. I have always been a Labor voter and dare I mention it to friends, I get howled down. What is wrong with people. We are lucky to live in this great country and have free will to vote for the government we want to lead us into the future. Pity the poor people of Zimbabwe who go to the voting, wanting a change of government and then find out the voting was rigged and they have to put up with that disgusting little Hitler, Magawabi who has been in power 3i years. He has endless Rolls Royces and drives around on his birthday amongst the poor people,

    5th Aug 2013
    12:17pm
    I keep harping on reducing the number of pollies running around spending chunks of our economic pie. To watch the morons in government sitting there day in day out nodding their heads and contributing nothing makes me vomit. Please, lets have just one federal government for this small populated country, and get rid of all the state governments. With total debt of between 300 and 400 billion and blowing out at 3 billion a week, we really cannot afford all this dead wood. Even local government is an embarrassment cost wise. Why can't we get good economic management that would run this country properly. Being one of the most prosperous countries in the world, surely we deserve a hell of a lot better, than the sqandering of billions of tax money earned by Australian workers. We cannot afford 46% wage increases for such a bunch of incompetant losers. If they were running a business it would be broke years ago. If people are going to handle and control our large income, they should at least have some qualification in economics and all politicians should have to pass a test to show they have brain power suitable for the job. Most do not seem to know the time of day. Lets have a big shake up.
    bubyshka
    5th Aug 2013
    4:56pm
    We should have a better HEalth system> BUT NOoooooo its still ailing!!! and who was the donkey they needed a gonsky report. GEE anybody could have told you they education was going downhill. How smart would you have to be to work that one out?
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    9:26pm
    SURFER
    DUH!!!!! It is not really a debt, dear boy, it is a deficit. We don't owe it to anyone AND it is one of the smallest in the World. We have a AAA credit rating (the USA & UK couldn't manage this). We have the BEST, yes BEST economy in the world and you my friend can't even work out the difference between, a Government deficit and a countries debt.

    Bit like the person you propose to vote for..... of the same ilk it appears! He didn't know the difference either BUT he proposes to run the country.... BUT that's alright really, he doesn't need to think because Murdoch's think tank will do that for him!!!

    These 'incompetent losers' have put Australia's economy at the TOP of the WORLD. Yes, the TOP and our debt at one of the LOWEST with a AAA credit rating.

    You Surfer are whinging and whining or is it 'vomiting' when we are the BEST of the BEST of the BEST. What the hell are you going to do when Murdoch's marionettes get in and fill Murdoch and his cronies pockets with OUR money. Our PUBLIC health and education will be non existent and all other PUBLIC institutions that either hinder Murdoch's propaganda machinery (ABC & SBS) or those that are valuable (CSIRO-very valuable) will be flogged off for as LITTLE as possible, to the wealthy elite.

    BUBYSHKA
    Our PUBLIC health system is failing BECAUSE of LIBERAL POLICIES..... FACT!!! They created a PRIVATE health system for the wealthy which is paid for by ..... YES, us mugs. The PUBLIC health system was then UNDERFUNDED and allowed to run down.

    It is nearly impossible to NOW get free from Howards/Libs PRIVATE health system set up, SO the CURRENT government has to build up the PUBLIC health system which has been denigrated over the HOWARD years AND keep funding the PRIVATE sector!!!!!!

    If Murdoch's marionettes get in, you will then know how bad a PUBLIC health system can get because it is NOT Liberal Policy to fund PUBLIC health. For an example of how low it can go..... nip over to the USA and check out their public health (risk).

    You really need to get a tad smarter...... it is obvious that LIBs DO NOT fund PUBLIC. That is who they represent ..... the wealthy elite... NOT YOU!!!!!
    sensible senior
    6th Aug 2013
    6:30pm
    mussitate we dont owe it you have to be joking and by the way its not only 400 billion its plus the billions the states owes close to a trillion i would say you dont say much about the queenslands credit rating thanks to the labor deficit
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:06am
    not very sensible

    QLD went through one disaster after another and the people of Qld suffered badly and all you can say is how disgusting that QLD has a big deficit. Duh! The whole world is suffering environment turmoil and QLD happened to cop the lot it seems in Australia.

    So.... what you are saying is that the Labor govt of Qld should NOT have provided funds and emergency and other services to those affected.

    What a charmer you are..... that is what governments are FOR!!! Not sitting on their hands, doing nothing, and SCROOGING the money away, doing NOTHING EXCEPT PAYING INCREASED WAGES to the NEW LIBERAL GOVERNMENT!

    What the hell is wrong with you????!!!
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    9:26am
    REFER TO MY PREVIOUS REPLY TO YOU QLD GOVERNMENT DID JACK SHIT DONATIONS BY THE PEOPLE WERE HELD BACK AND ALSO MONEY FROM DONATIONS PUT INTO REVENUE. I KNOW I WAS IN CYCLONE YAZI
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:19pm
    Muss it ate, You would say black is white. What is wrong with you? Bligh held onto 100million of money that was donated by Queenslander's to aid in the floods. Like others I donated and we were outraged that Labor's Bligh had with held it. When we later found out her government owed 80 Billion and had bankrupted our state, we know why she held onto anything that was not screwed down. You now know why she was thrashed in the polls.
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    12:22pm
    just like the corrupt bullshitter lying budget fiddling ALP will be - banished for as long as possible - maybe to PNG ? hahahaha
    TeAnne
    5th Aug 2013
    12:23pm
    Well, you're all in for a lovely romp in a flower field with abbott as head honcho. Arn't you? huh? Arnt you all just. hahahahahahh
    Wake up and get over it!
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    12:34pm
    TeAnne, I am sure your comment makes sense to you, but some of us are not quite sure what "a lovely romp in a flower field " has to do with the Election.
    Maybe I should ask, are the Pubs open where you live?
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    1:28pm
    Think I like the sound of a lovely romp in a flower field, flopping about with my dope and lapping up the sunshine. I think I am away with the fairy's. Ha Ha Ha Tee Hee.
    TeAnne
    5th Aug 2013
    5:48pm
    Don't you know sarcasm when you see/read it? All the pollies are as bad as each other.
    What is with you and the pubs you g simmo? Craving a drink huh?
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    6:00pm
    No TeAnne, it is just that your first comment sounded like you might have been to the pub before lunch time.
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    6:46pm
    young simmo, lighten up dont judge others if your not sure of their comments........I feel you may be a fun guy to have a joke with especially the topic on the Asylum Seekers.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    9:29pm
    TeAnne
    That is what these clowns do when they think they are dealing with a woman or others that they perceive to be vulnerable. They pounce.... rat pack style.

    Weak.... yes, they are.
    TeAnne
    5th Aug 2013
    10:51pm
    Truth is Young Simmo. I don't drink. I was in a sarcastic mood because as I said. All the pollies are as bad as each other.
    If Abbott gets in, everyone will be crying what a bast.... He is when everything isn't as flowery as he promies. He is just another lier out to line his own pockets. What is he going to do for pensioners? I will be one in the not to distant future and I am as scared as hell because I was never taught how important super was. So yeah, look forward to that romp in the flower bed with Abbott. :)
    sensible senior
    6th Aug 2013
    6:36pm
    mussitate YOU FORGOT ME
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    8:16am
    Not me - I think I'm one of the rat pack!
    talofa
    5th Aug 2013
    12:34pm
    why do people watch the tabloid TV? i am also glad that it seems to be over in sept.7th
    but i never watch any political spins as i already know who to vot for...i am proudly GREEN
    talofa
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    12:37pm
    Talofa, so you vote for Gum Trees and Dandelions, not much profit in there mate.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    12:40pm
    talofa - and do you smoke the wacky backy, sit around the campfire holding hands singing kumbaya my lord ?
    greenies mean well but have nfi how to manage the economy.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    1:21pm
    Could I sell you some magic mushrooms. Fresh out today and half price.
    Pass the Ductape
    5th Aug 2013
    2:50pm
    Proudly green talofa ? Give me strength!!!! The Greens won't be happy until they get everyone eating nothing but grass and travelling around in vehicles powered by farts. I've had a gutful of you wacked out nincompoops as well!
    Aloysius
    5th Aug 2013
    3:34pm
    And the Greens are committed to One World Government and that means that they want the UN to run Australia. How wacky can you get?
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    9:33pm
    YOUNG SIMMO
    JAGUAR
    SURFER
    DUCTAPE
    ALOYSIUS

    Dah boys! ALL Murdoch marionette HACKS!!!! Who are really, really foolish enough to believe that Murdoch and his cronies will 'do good by Australia'.

    The only 'wacky backy' one here are you lot. What foolishness and nastiness.

    Allow someone else to have an opinion without going feral.... little ones, aye!
    Aloysius
    5th Aug 2013
    11:17pm
    If Mussitate thinks that he can win an argument by insulting people who disagree with him, then perhaps he belongs in the Parliamentary Labor Party.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    11:57pm
    Aloysius
    No, I leave that to you lot .... 'rat pack'.... that has a nice ring to it....suits somehow.

    You can have a go at me anytime but give others some ability to contribute and then respond with some concrete facts, rather than spin doctoring and rudeness en masse.

    More importantly give others some respect.

    Unleash on me, (if you have to) - I can handle it..... no, not true..... I actually ENJOY IT...... so mate, all I can say is give it a go... give it a go, mate.
    Flagman
    5th Aug 2013
    12:36pm
    Hey TeAnne please read again Young Simmo @11.57am , because surely you must be! By the bye I'm a pensioner too and have never been as badly off as under krudd1/juliar/krudd2 so come on Tony so we can rid ourselves of the blight of krudd and co....
    bubyshka
    5th Aug 2013
    4:58pm
    Flagman they are all too busy lining their own pocket and i'm sure they have a great retirement fund too.......
    TeAnne
    5th Aug 2013
    5:51pm
    Go and read my reply to the replys!
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    6:48pm
    Flagman, No Pensioner has it great under any Politicial party. in my opinion?
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    9:46pm
    How really silly is it when people drape themselves in a flag! How blinking pathetic is THAT.

    REAL AUSTRALIAN'S DO NOT and I mean DO NOT, DRAPE themselves in FLAGS. That is AMERICAN bulldust patriotism. AUSTRALIANS ARE NOT THAT STUPID!!!!!!!!!

    Murdoch's marionette will NEVER make life better for pensioners!!!

    LIBERAL PARTY platform is to reduce SERVICES and CUT government spending.

    TELL ME THEN 'FLAGMAN', how they are then going to make it BETTER for you and OTHERS, if they cut government spending and reduces services.

    GOODNESS...... LIB...PARTY HACKS, all of you. Big spinners of tales with no substance.

    UNLESS you own over 10 million worth of assets with (the very least) over $400,000 per annum in income, then you are wasting your time voting for Murdoch's marionettes BECAUSE, people, that is the people their policies are based upon.

    IF you want what the USA has, then by all means vote for them ....... here are some of the key issues:
    - crumbling infrastructure
    - corruption the mainstay of politics and any government office
    - legal system in disarray
    - millions and millions unemployed
    - growing poverty
    - ever expanding slums
    - public education a joke
    - public health a health risk
    - crime a daily occurrence
    - drugs, simply out of control

    If you like these things, then go for it, vote Liberal!
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    7:52am
    LOL - Mussi is a labor stooge.
    HOLA
    6th Aug 2013
    9:10am
    MUSSITATE FOR P.M. i WOULD CERTAINLY VOTE FOR YOU.
    talofa
    5th Aug 2013
    12:52pm
    this is my last remark on this issue....all those POOR Pensioners ...you will get a big surprise
    when Your Tony becomes PM...nothing to laugh anymore ...by the way i am a pensioner as
    well & i don't smoke plus i like city-living...talofa
    talofa
    5th Aug 2013
    12:52pm
    this is my last remark on this issue....all those POOR Pensioners ...you will get a big surprise
    when Your Tony becomes PM...nothing to laugh anymore ...by the way i am a pensioner as
    well & i don't smoke plus i like city-living...talofa
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    12:57pm
    Talofa, we heard you the first time, also I think you and TeAnne must have gone to the same school.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    9:49pm
    At least they went to school Simmo..... you are so damn rude. You and your fellow rat pack, simply pick on anyone that has a different opinion.
    Annamaria
    6th Aug 2013
    1:21pm
    Good grief Mussitate. The cheek of you calling anyone rude. I can't be bothered reading your vitriolic and long-winded comments anymore. Talk about a Labor nutcase. You really are a crashing bore.

    Good on you, Young Simmo. You talk sense.
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    1:29pm
    Mussitate, I am starting to think you must have gone to the same school as that pair of BLONDS. You obviously are not smart enough to be able to differentiate between Rudeness, Sarcasm and Poking Fun. It must be a sad life you lead, I am glad you are one the other side of my computer. Get it?
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    1:32pm
    Yes Annamaria, I am in here for a bit of fun and entertainment, it fills in the gaps between weeding the garden, Nano Naps and Happy Hour. OK time to go and stir the Mrs, it has been a quiet morning.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:05am
    Annamaria
    Wow.... Just get stuck right in there my love....no, don't hold back. "Twinkle" comes to mind, you are so sharp.... or should I say prickly.

    So, do you have anything intelligent to say or is your speciality simply making snide and nasty comments..... pity, we could have done with something intelligent.

    Okay, maybe if I ask a question you could respond with some facts and truths....here we go:

    "Could you tell me how Abbott is going to do better than the current government (Labor) who have put the economy of Australia at the VERY TOP of the WORLD and have achieved this UNPRECEDENTED ACHIEVEMENT during one of the hardest economic times the world has ever seen. Just HOW is Abbott going to do you do better than the BEST EVER!!!!"

    Old Boy Simmo
    Ow dear! Ducking in behind a woman.... how could I expect anything less. Go on puff out that scrawny chest at her and thump it a couple of times.


    Entertaining, if nothing else YS and Annamaria..... bit desperate but none the less entertaining. I like seeing you make fools of yourselves by showing your underbellies.
    FEDUP
    5th Aug 2013
    1:51pm
    The GONSKI Report will not work, as they said that the 14Billion was for 5 years.
    Would someone please explain to me, a couple of things. If they are cutting funding to Universities, where are the NEW TEACHERS coming from. Also the NEW TEACHERS should be better educated, say another 2 years of University to get better educated to teach our children. According to K Rudd we will be better off with the GONSKI system. But it is not possible in the next 5 years, as we will still have the same teachers, teaching the same things that they are now. The only benefit will be that schools will be able to employ TEACHERS AIDS so that they can sit in a room whilst the teacher goes outside for a smoke.
    The Teachers union is all for the new system, as they will be able to put in for a new wage rise. The only ones left behind are the kids, they cannot be taught to be brighter when the teachers are at the same level as currently. We should be able to guarantee a certain amount to be spent on Education, say 5% of GDP. After all we are spending more on the Boat people than our outlay on Education.
    Now to the BOAT PEOPLE, we are supposed to be sending them to MANUS ISLAND. A place that even the Papuan and New Guinean peoples agree is not fit to maintain the numbers that have came since K RUDD, decided to send them and pay 500 million to the coffers of the PNG Government. Now riots are breaking out and the opposition in PNG are claiming foul. Saying that they will reverse the agreement, but will keep the money, no doubt.
    Another of policy on the run, just like the PINK BATS, SCHOOL FIASCO etc.
    Anyone with a bit of sense would realise that the GLOBAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE would not affect us, we are isolated from EUROPE, USA, CANADA and even JAPAN and CHINA, because
    we are so far away from their problems, NZ did not go into GFC as they are the same as us. They did not offer a stimulus package, yet survived the so called Crash of the Century.
    Just another no consultation with sensible academics who realise that we were and will continue to be insular from most of the world, apart from the Boat People that seem to be able to find us.
    Aloysius
    5th Aug 2013
    3:38pm
    The whole point of Gonski was to get the Federal Govt into schools and to disenfranchise the States and the schools and the parents.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    9:54pm
    Aloysius
    Better that way than the other way, whereby the States pay the full cost of all education and health, as recommended by Murdoch's marionette.

    Of course the only way they can do that is to INCREASE GST that much that each household.... no matter their income levels ...... will have to pay a minimum of $3000pa. Then you would get a different standard of education and health in different states because, Sydney and Melbourne can raise the greatest amount in GST whilst the other states will be limited in this ability. The 'other' states would have substandard health and education and ALL states would vary in laws and service provision.

    Takes you back ...... about 50 decades.... yes?
    lorra
    5th Aug 2013
    2:39pm
    It's not always the teachers who are at fault- it's the system of education run by faulty politics- taking them away from teaching the "3RS" to teach sex education, financial education, more sport, more community awareness, more this, more that... and so on, so there is no time for the formal learning that children need.
    ozimarco
    5th Aug 2013
    2:42pm
    All I'll say on the subject is that Australians will get the government they deserve. It's still time to wake up to Tony Abbott, his empty slogans, poor policies such fraudband and direct action, the Murdoch media backing him, etc. but time is fast running out. Instead of a steady improvement in the economy, I think you will see a marked deterioration due to the kind of 'slash and burn' policies Campbell Newman is famous for in Queensland in his efforts to return the budget to surplus. Anyway, I hope you will all enjoy the next three years because I'm pretty sure I won't.
    Any pensioners thinking the Coalition will be better for them than Labor must have rocks in their heads.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    4:28pm
    Why blame Campbell Newman for trying to save Queensland. He had no choice when that fool Bligh left him and all Queenslanders with 80 Bullion in debt. What a horrific surprise that was. She bankrupted our state. Count your blessings you have someone like Campbell Newman with enough guts to try to one day balance our books. You can't borrow and hope forever. Krudd has bankrupted Australia. Just ask him how long it will take to pay off the 300 to 400 billion. Abbott has no option but to cut costs to finally save this place from becoming a banana republic. It will take years of spending cuts and probably tax increases to bring us back to normal. I am sick of hearing Krudd bleating about how much better we are than other countries. They have not had record income from mining like we have. The squander that has gone on through the labor government will be a legacy to pay off for years. Poor buggars could not run a hen house. When all said and done, no one can live for long beyond their means. Businesses that do that go broke. At present we are still going down hill at 3 Billion a week. When the hell will it all end. Wake up Australia. What do you think of pollies getting 46%wage increases? While our over worked nurses are lucky to get 2%. Something has to change. What about the handouts to boat people, while our poor pensioners can hardly pay their power bill. How much more crap do we put up with?????
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    10:02pm
    Surfer

    You are getting more and more ridiculous. "blessings" you have Newman... oh! please.

    He is a TOTAL DISASTER and corrupt.

    You complain about polies wages and then say how wonderful Newman was. He was going to increase HIS wages so that it was MORE than the PRESIDENT of the United States of America!!!!!!!! He had to pull his head in and reduce it, due to public pressure.

    You are merely a Murdoch/Lib HACK that is here to "spread the word" which equals = "vicious and viscous PROPAGANDA" (unfounded attacks and LIES, designed to confuse and cajole people to vote for the wealthy elite).
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    8:48am
    Mussitate----- You cannot get away from facts although it seems you believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden. Krudd has you well and truly conned and I feel sorry for you. Have you checked on Rudds salary lately. You know what Newman inherited from Bligh, so have no argument. Please use a little common sence or are you also one of the borrow and hope brigade. Did you come down in the last shower??
    sensible senior
    6th Aug 2013
    6:50pm
    AND WHY ARE WE SO MUCH IN DEBT THE MINING REVENUE HAS GONE UP BUT THIS GOVERMENT HAS OVERSPENT PLUS RUINED BUSINESSES WITH THEIR CARBON TAX ETC AND NOW RUDD IS GIVING IT AWAY AT A RATE OF KNOTS
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:26am
    Surfer
    I will copy and paste what I said above....

    "QLD went through one disaster after another and the people of Qld suffered badly and all you can say is how disgusting that QLD has a big deficit. Duh! The whole world is suffering environment turmoil and QLD happened to cop the lot it seems in Australia.

    So.... what you are saying is that the Labor govt of Qld should NOT have provided funds and emergency and other services to those affected.

    What a charmer you are..... that is what governments are FOR!!! Not sitting on their hands, doing nothing, and SCROOGING the money away, doing NOTHING EXCEPT PAYING INCREASED WAGES to the NEW LIBERAL GOVERNMENT!

    What the hell is wrong with you????!!!"

    That should put pay to your ridiculous argument.


    NOW, 'not very sensible senior'

    Mining is mostly owned by FOREIGN owned CORPORATIONS, so most of the MONEY from OUR HERITAGE goes OVERSEAS. We used to get lots of employment and the spin off for those Australian companies who provided services to these mining giants.

    HOWEVER, these parasites now use foreign workers brought in to take over the jobs Australians used to do.... Just have a little chat with Rinehart.... she will let you know how 'difficult it is for the poor miners when they have to pay proper wages'. Then OF COURSE, they send ALL their services overseas to CHEAP markets to undertake most of their service requirements, so that AUSTRALIAN companies work dries up and workers are put off.

    IF our PM (Rudd at the time) starts a PROCESS to claw back some of those profits, MURDOCH runs a scaremongering campaign and gets the whole of Australia to spit poison at our PM, so much so that the government has to replace him. I am sure that YOU were one of those very, very silly people who were totally sucked in by what these wealthy elite PARASITES had to say.

    SO, we have OUR HERITAGE sucked out of the ground and HUGE PROFITS made by CORPORATIONS with majority FOREIGN INVESTORS and AUSTRALIA has been SQUEEZED OUT of this money making activity by GREED. These FOREIGN corporations even STUFF UP our environments.... they don't give a rats a*se, its money they are after.

    THESE MINERS ARE MURDOCH'S CRONY FRIENDS, just ask RINEHART and TONY ABBOTT.

    YOUR 'BOY' ABBOTT will jump over (or bend over) backwards for these people, he is THEIR little darling. ABBOTT will not bother to try and get the money to stay in Australia, he doesn't give a rats a*se either, he is too busy jumping up and down licking his new owners.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    8:52am
    Mussitate.....

    The well over one billion dollars that Queensland taxpayers will have to pay back to cover the hopeless schlimazel of a pay system concerning Queensland health employees and authorized by the Bligh LABOUR Government, is just one of the disasters you must be talking about. And there are a few more man-made disasters the Bligh Government put Queenslanders through - for which Queenslanders will ultimately have to pay for - never mind the natural disasters you refer to. All the money wasted by the Bligh Labour Government has left Queensland completely broke! All this mismanaged and wasted funding would have helped enormously to cover the flood crises in Queensland......

    And if you think that the cost employing an Australian on the extremely high wage paid out by Rinehart is considered a 'proper wage' - as you call it - then you're more delusional than I thought!!
    But you obviously get great enjoyment from espousing your communistic ranting's - so knock yourself out!
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    9:01am
    hahahahaha you mention the word CORRUPT - this ALP are swimming in the stuff and it is not over yet. Any fair dinkum Oz wouldnt let this bunch of crooks mind a packet of jelly babies. Disgusting people supposedly doing things on behalf of the public. I wonder just when the AWU scandal will resurface. Cant imagine how anxious Dudd is hoping that the election will be over 1st.
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    9:22am
    mussitate YOU DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT QLD DO YOU. FIRST OF ALL THOSE DISASTERS AND I SHOULD KNOW I WAS RIGHT IN THE HEART OF YAZI. QLD GOV DID JACK SHIT WITH THE FLOOD AND CYCONE DISASTERS LOTS OF MONEY WAS DONATED BY PEOPLE AND OVERSEAS . LABOR GOVERNMENT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GIVE THIS OUT AND PUT A LOT OF IT INTO REVENUE AND STILL CASME OUT WITH A DEFICIT OF 62 BULLION. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    9:30am
    SORRY SHOULD HAVE SAID 62 BILLION
    Grateful
    5th Aug 2013
    2:50pm
    Peajay01. How I second your reaction to those words "Can't wait until it is all over".
    What a sad indictment on people who think that way about our blessed democracy.
    Ask the millions of people who's lives are daily at risk either at the hands of despots or actually fighting for what some of us so disgracefully take for granted. The evening news is full of it every day.
    We should all be thanking whom ever we belive has given us the greatest privilege of living in the best country on this earth and give much thought to the millions who would even die for that same privilege!!!! Maybe those who do not appreciate that great gift should consider walking a mile in others' shoes before they become so critical. Better still, use their OWN proper name in these columns and not hide behind the security of anonymity.
    VERY Grateful.
    wally
    5th Aug 2013
    3:46pm
    Does ozimarco think the Australian public deserves another three years of LAbor Party failures? I hope not, but with enough people sharing ozimzrco's point of view, we just might. As a pensioner, I'd rather not see money going for the care and feeding of thousands of gate crashers that claim they are fleeing for their lives. I would like to see more nurses employed and not having to prove they can do the work to the satisfaction of over zealous bureaucrats. How about cutting red tape so businesses can do business instead of filling in forms to justify having a bloated public service. I'd like to see money spent strengthening the customs service to stem the flow of dope and guns. I would like to see the elimination of a tax regime that renders it almost impossible for business to remain profitable enough to expand and hire more people.
    Do we need another three years of the "Lone Poncer" pushing his own private and personal agenda of ego gratification ahead of the national interest? Instead of vilifying people in his mislabelled "positive" campaign, I wish he would recognize the fact that throwing money at problems solves nothing. Running around like the proverbial headless chook and producing one half baked solution after another (in the short time he has returned to power) shows he lacks the maturity to develop a sensible and long lasting. approach to solving Australia's problems b
    Has everyone forgotten why the "faceless ones" sacked Rudd in 2010 in the first place? I thought it was because they regarded Rudd to be an unelectable failure. When the wheel turned full circle and Julia Gillard was similarly dispatched by the "faceless ones" for similar reasons, guess who came up smiling? If Labor gets back in, how long will the honeymoon last before Rudd gets what he got in 2010? Let's get rid of him now and save the Labor caucus the trouble.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    4:43pm
    Completely agree with what you say Wally. I cannot believe that anyone could even contemplate voting for Krudd after looking at his record. He is a complete embarrassment to this great country.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    10:11pm
    wally & Surfer

    WHAT FAILURES!!!!...... please tell.

    - AUSTRALIA is one of the WEALTHIEST NATION ON EARTH (our wealth is spread out amongst Average Australians and NOT in the hands of just a few - it is called EGALITARIANISM)
    - Australia's economy is the BEST in the WORLD.
    - Our Debt levels are the LOWEST in the WORLD
    - Our credit rating is AAA
    - Our PUBLIC health and educations systems are being brought BACK UP to where they were BEFORE HOWARD denigrated them.
    - Our crime levels are one of the lowest in the world
    - Drug problems are minimal on a world standing
    - INFRASTRUCTURE is improving and IF we get Labor's NBN Australia will be ahead of the rest of the world in IT and innovation (instead of 20 years behind the rest of the world with Murdoch's NFN)
    - Services and Benefits to the PEOPLE of Australia are improving and expanding

    So, tell me what LITTLE things do you have to GRIPE and WHINE about!
    Flagman
    5th Aug 2013
    4:51pm
    To all those who want Labour (I know this wrong!) returned are very simple people who like the morons they vote for like "shiny" things that make them feel good - a lot like the greens actually - and see lots of movement as actually getting something done! I like the "Lone Poncer" too Wally! If you put him and his mob of buffoons back please don't come back here and complain! I don't hate Krudd just feel sad for him that he is so in love with himself that nobody else matters and so far up himself he can't see anything wrong! Those who support him are in a similar position methinks? Pull your heads out (you where from) and have a look around this once great country and see what it has become in reality. I believe that Krudd is right though when he says let the people decide and after they do we may be great once again - but not under the "Lone Poncer" and narcissist Krudd! (Thanks again Wally love it!)
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    5:57pm
    Hey Flagman,
    Everyone entitle to their opinion and on who they wish to vote for show them respect OK mate.............these Elections are going to be very difficulty for all concern as many Aussie are so fed up with our Politicians and their lies.cheers
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    10:17pm
    Flagman

    At least we don't drape flags over ourselves, in typical American style foolish propagandised patriotism.

    The only place we will be going if run by MURDOCH'S marionettes, is DOWN, DOWN, DOWN. Unless, of course, you own more than $10million in assets and earn more than $400,000 per annum BUT even then I doubt you will benefit UNLESS you are one of MURDOCH's CRONIES.

    I just thought I would repeat the achievements of LABOR for you, dear little one:

    - AUSTRALIA is one of the WEALTHIEST NATION ON EARTH (our wealth is spread out amongst Average Australians and NOT in the hands of just a few - it is called EGALITARIANISM)
    - Australia's economy is the BEST in the WORLD.
    - Our Debt levels are the LOWEST in the WORLD
    - Our credit rating is AAA
    - Our PUBLIC health and educations systems are being brought BACK UP to where they were BEFORE HOWARD denigrated them.
    - Our crime levels are one of the lowest in the world
    - Drug problems are minimal on a world standing
    - INFRASTRUCTURE is improving and IF we get Labor's NBN Australia will be ahead of the rest of the world in IT and innovation (instead of 20 years behind the rest of the world with Murdoch's NFN)
    - Services and Benefits to the PEOPLE of Australia are improving and expanding

    ALL THIS WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD IS CRUSHED UNDER THE GFC BURDEN!!!!

    So, tell me again, what LITTLE things do you have to GRIPE and WHINE about!
    Margaret
    5th Aug 2013
    5:05pm
    Some of these comments are so discourteous and downright rude to others. Perhaps Life Choices needs a "Report Abuse" button.
    I seldom read the comments because I cannot abide the negativity of moaners and whingers who overtake these discussions/comments. But I suppose even these people are entitled to their opinion, just please be courteous.
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    5:28pm
    Margaret, most of us contributors in here are here for a bit of fun and entertainment, if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Thinking about it, your problem might be you spend too much time in the kitchen. Now you have got me confused.
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    5:53pm
    Young Simmo,
    Margaret is right in what she has comment on............ there have been some damm rude comments............ even at times I find them a bunch of whingers who need to take a spell from their computers and clear the cob webs from their minds.
    margaret there is a report area U can reply to..........Young Simmo we are all hear to use the site and to have a decent comment if thats OK with you.
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    6:04pm
    Careful
    Careful tia-maria, or I might go and find Taskid and really give you something to grizzel about.
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    6:07pm
    Young Simmo,Is that so mate (this old tuff Lt.) can handle you........I didnt even thought for one minute you could handle me with out support from this Taskid???????
    Young Simmo
    5th Aug 2013
    6:10pm
    I was just joking tia-maria, please don't be too hard on me or I will tell Margaret.
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    6:42pm
    Young Simmo,
    now you are becoming more fun mate with a SOH.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    10:23pm
    Margaret
    Old Simmo, likes to attack people who have a different view to his, particularly if they are women or he perceives them to be vulnerable and especially when his 'rat pack' are around to support him.

    Weak.... comes to mind but hey, it is merely my opinion.
    Pass the Ductape
    6th Aug 2013
    7:46am
    "Old Simmo, likes to attack people who have a different view to his, particularly if they are women or he perceives them to be vulnerable and especially when his 'rat pack' are around to support him" - and - " Weak, comes to mind".......

    So are we to gather from these comments of yours Mussitate, that we shouldn't considered them anything more than benign dribble? Fine with me.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    9:09am
    Mussitate:::::: I think it is you that likes to attack people and has Murdoch on the brain. Have you come to your senses yet and realized how hopeless Krudd and his idiotic mob are????
    Annamaria
    6th Aug 2013
    1:27pm
    "So are we to gather from these comments of yours Mussitate, that we shouldn't considered them anything more than benign dribble? Fine with me."

    Excellent comment, Ductape. Exactly what I'm thinking.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:34am
    Ductape..Surfer...Annamaria

    Back to FACTS little ones.... Labor and RUDD have put Australia at the TOP of the WORLD. OUR ECONOMY is the BEST of the BEST of the BEST and all other countries are envious of our GOVERNMENTS INTERNATIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS.

    So, ALL you little people can do is ATTACK newcomers who make a comment, en masse because it makes you feel BIG (I suppose). Then there are newcomers who fit right in with your nasty little rat pack.... yes, tis you Annamaria.

    So Annamaria, what FACTS do you have that will show us how Murdoch's marionette is going to IMPROVE on RUDD'S INTERNATIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS. How is Abbott going to BEAT the best management of an economy in the world!!!!!
    archer
    9th Aug 2013
    10:44am
    You are right Margaret and if you are not extreme right wing it's not a nice place to be on a regular basis. The name calling is right out of the gutter
    Flagman
    5th Aug 2013
    5:10pm
    Truth hurts maybe Margaret?
    tia-maria
    5th Aug 2013
    6:09pm
    Flagman, truth does not hurt mate BUT rudeness does.
    sensible senior
    6th Aug 2013
    6:35pm
    tia-maria what about mussitate he would be one of the biggest whingers on this site no brains to boot and he keeps on quoting untruths all the time just like mr. rudd
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:37am
    silly senior

    Mussitate ONLY responds to BAD BEHAVIOUR..... haven't you noticed?

    Is it that you are too busy trying to find SOMETHING that supports your beloved ABBOTT and failing this have resorted to name calling and 'rat pack' attacks.
    Aussiefrog
    5th Aug 2013
    7:16pm
    Aren't you all people here retirees or seniors? Have you forgotten that under the libs (Howard) there's never been a pension rise! I don't like either of them, but out of the two evil I will choose the lesser evil (in that case Rudd). Queenslanders wiped out Labor from the scenery and now we have Gestapo style premier that has no regards or concern for the people that elected him!
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    10:30pm
    Aussiefrog
    That was nicely put.
    I have a different view of Rudd, especially after I went to one of his 'meet my cabinet' public meetings. I went there to give him a hard time but came away with a lot of respect. He worked hard and it was for the AVERAGE Australian and he actually cares for us and Australia. Blew me away a bit.

    No wonder Murdoch's press is FRIGHTENED of Rudd. He is very smart, cares for the average Australian, clever enough to make Australia the best economy in the world and wants to do it for us, the people and not to line his own pockets.

    Here is a link for you to copy and paste:

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html

    Would be interested in your feed back on the link.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    7:03am
    aussiefrog, the rise we pensioners received was because of the greens. they put forward the motion, lobbied very hard, and with their help, it was passed in the senate. i presume those who disagree with greens' policies refused that rise and are still on the old, smaller pension rate.
    Pass the Ductape
    6th Aug 2013
    7:25am
    Qld is flat broke! Hello.....FLAT BROKE!
    Many of us seem to have forgotten that! It's going to take many a hard decision - and some considerable time before it gets itself back into the black.
    Aussiefrog
    6th Aug 2013
    2:27pm
    Well well well, all I can see is that this election is dividing everyone, when we should be all united for the same fight! Both sides of politics are pretty ugly, there's no one that suit my agenda and ideals! The closest thing that would suit me is a pollie style Marine Le Pen of France. She all for the nation and its national s first and foremost. We need someone that put Australia and Australians first and foremost.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:49am
    Ductape
    Sigh...... how boring, you keep on and on about Qld which is another firry. I will copy and paste again what I said above:

    "QLD went through one disaster after another and the people of Qld suffered badly and all you can say is how disgusting that QLD has a big deficit. Duh! The whole world is suffering environment turmoil and QLD happened to cop the lot it seems in Australia.

    So.... what you are saying is that the Labor govt of Qld should NOT have provided funds and emergency and other services to those affected.

    What a charmer you are..... that is what governments are FOR!!! Not sitting on their hands, doing nothing, and SCROOGING the money away, doing NOTHING EXCEPT PAYING INCREASED WAGES to the NEW LIBERAL GOVERNMENT!

    What the hell is wrong with you????!!!"

    Aussiefrog
    Was hoping for some interaction on some facts and the link I gave you but alas, nothing. C'est La Vie.
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    9:33am
    MUSSITATE

    TONY ABBOTT RHODES SCHOLAR

    KEVIN RUDD BACHELOR OF ARTS
    HOLA
    7th Aug 2013
    3:09pm
    Just because Tony Abbott is a Rhodes Scholar doesn't mean he is the most intelligent person , I know someone who has all the degrees from University and can't put a nail in a piece of wood. Looking forward for the Great Debate.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    4:21pm
    Mussitate.....

    Sorry.....I didn’t think I'd gone on so much about Qld., nor taken up anywhere near the space on this thread as yourself, but to your overactive mind I concede I probably have. But maaaate - you’d take first prize for blinkered vision any day! Soooo....in the knowledge that I must be boring you as much as you now bore me, I intend to give this thread away and if I can find the time and should the moderators let me, pursue another. Unlike yourself, who seem to have little to do except stay up all day and night sourcing out anything that might help construct your obsessive responses concerning those whom you believe attach themselves as some kind of lackey to a person named Murdoch - I have better things to do.

    Therefore I concede to allowing you the last comment on my account - of which I’ll wager it will contain an abundance of socialistic diatribe.

    But console yourself with the thought that I did err, and badly at that - I forgot that one should never enter into an argument with a fool because like the man said, (might have been Murdoch) ”They have a way to bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

    C'est La Vie to you too ..... MUSSITATE!
    Young Simmo
    7th Aug 2013
    4:31pm
    Ductape, if you substitute the 2nd (S) for a (T), and the first (T) for a (B), you end up with an Irish version of a common pastime, OOoooRRrrrr, now I feel better.
    OK, now I have to go back to making Mum's 48% Brandy, or I really will be in trouble.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    4:43pm
    I'm with on that Simmo!
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    4:47pm
    Forgot the 'you' in my message Simmo. I think I might have started before you!
    sensible senior
    10th Aug 2013
    8:39am
    hola my point exactly i have a high i.q. and i am not mechanical nor can i sew etc, but very good with my brain. we dont need a person who can saw a piece of wood to lead our country but one with a brain, i feel mr. rudd has got too much wax in his ears
    Paddles
    5th Aug 2013
    10:55pm
    DAY 1

    Well we're off and running. Did anyone else notice that the FIRST broadcast comment from Krudd was the announcement of a $650,000,000 spend on some "feel good" initiative that will add to our national debt and, less you not understand, we are currently operating on borrowed money so that represents another $650K that we owe to others.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    11:13pm
    No, Paddles dear, deficit NOT debt, that is merely Murdoch's spin doctoring.

    Besides, Australia has the SMALLEST deficit in the WORLD. It is private and commercial concerns who have a huge debt, dear Paddles, not the government.

    More smoke and mirrors... more lies, shadows and delusions.
    Paddles
    6th Aug 2013
    11:27am
    Mussitate

    I really must take heed of your above comment as, when it comes to delusions, you are the undisputed expert in this forum!
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    12:43am
    Paddles

    Is that it, Paddles!!!! You lie and spit ridiculous statements and when presented with FACTS you say they are not true!!!!

    Give me something Paddles..... give me some FACTS about how ABBOTT is going to IMPROVE on LABOR'S INTERNATIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS and how LABOR have put Australia's economy at the TOP of the WORLD..... UNPRECEDENTED SUCCESS!!!

    GO on OLD CHAP, tell me how ABBOTT and his KEEPERS are going to improve on that.

    Oh! Don't forget about how we are the most EGALITARIAN nation in the world ..... I need to know HOW Abbott is going to ENSURE this remains the case AND how he is going to give to his KEEPERS all the wealth that they require him to give them.

    He CAN'T! Abbott has to TAKE OUR WEALTH and give it to HIS WEALTHY MATES!
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    6:08pm
    Mussitate you floor me DEFICIT IS WHAT WE OWE FOR THE YEAR OR SURPLUS INTHIS CASE IT IS 30 BILLION AN D DEBT IS WHAT WE HAVE RUN UP OVER YEARS NEARLY 400 BILLION WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN

    5th Aug 2013
    11:05pm
    Thought I would put together a few positives about the Labor Party and RUDD. Here are some of the ACHIEVEMENTS:

    - AUSTRALIA is one of the WEALTHIEST NATION ON EARTH (our wealth is spread out amongst Average Australians and NOT in the hands of just a few - it is called EGALITARIANISM)
    - Our democracy remains in tact (less corporate control) and is one of the better systems in the world
    - Australia's economy is the BEST in the WORLD.
    - Our Debt levels are the LOWEST in the WORLD
    - Our credit rating is AAA
    - Our PUBLIC health and educations systems are being brought BACK UP to where they were BEFORE HOWARD denigrated them.
    - Our crime levels are one of the lowest in the world
    - Drug problems are minimal on a world standing
    - INFRASTRUCTURE is improving and IF we get Labor's NBN Australia will be ahead of the rest of the world in IT and innovation (instead of 20 years behind the rest of the world with Murdoch's NFN)
    - Services and Benefits to the PEOPLE of Australia are improving and expanding

    ALL THIS WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD IS CRUSHED UNDER THE GFC BURDEN!!!

    Lets now look at the main theme of the LIBERAL PARTY's platform - simple really - reduce SERVICES and CUT government spending and ensure NO deficit which means effectively, NO SERVICES, NO INFRASTRUCTURE, NO PUBLIC SPENDING, PRIVATISE EVERYTHING (we know how well that works, don't we), FUND PRIVATE INSTITUTES.

    Tell me how Murdoch's marionettes are then going to make it BETTER for you and OTHERS, if they cut government spending and reduces services, they don't spend on infrastructure. Just look at the ceasing of infrastructure spending, it simply means less jobs and therefore less money circulating in the economy which then means even less jobs from those industries that service the infrastructure, which means even less money circulating in society which means..... you can see the general downward spiral, of course.

    The following is what happened to another once mighty nation (USA) that followed the very same Liberals policies:

    - crumbling infrastructure
    - corruption the mainstay of politics and any government office
    - huge corporate influence over government and hence loss of democratic process
    - legal system in disarray
    - millions and millions unemployed
    - growing poverty
    - ever expanding slums
    - public education a joke
    - public health a health risk
    - crime a daily occurrence
    - drugs, simply out of control

    The wealthy elite are making more and more money...... it is just the average American that is suffering.... badly.

    COMPARE: we have the position that LABOR and RUDD have placed us - BRILLIANT.....FACT. That is were we are right now - the most egalitarian, the wealthiest, the safest, the best place to live IN THE WHOLE WORLD!!!! Now look at the position of a government that has the same Policies as the LIBERAL party and where they are right now.....FACT.

    So, why would anyone vote for the latter and not the former who have PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that they can manage this country BRILLIANTLY!!!

    The ONLY reason you would is because our Corporate (foreign) Owned Media FEED us bulldust and spin doctor anything into a negative or simply lie, to get us to vote for their puppet representative.

    Check this out:

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html

    A vote for Liberal, is a vote for Murdoch and his cronies to RAPE & PILLAGE this wonderful country and to take YOUR money and put it in THEIR pockets. WE, the people of Australia, can NOT afford these parasites to dismantle our democracy nor take our wealth.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    7:30am
    Roflmao - these are labor's achievements? Debt levels and AAA rating are labor's achievements? I think you mean we are fortunate that they managed to retain our debt levels and credit ratings despite the mismanagement.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    11:51am
    Great post Mussitate and as usual I agree with everything you have said. No need to add anything more.
    Annamaria
    6th Aug 2013
    1:30pm
    Mussitate - You are such a bag of wind
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    1:49pm
    The only thing I can think of is that, Mussitate and Robiconda are one and the same. I just hope he doesn't dislocate his shoulder while he is patting himself on the back.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:16am
    YS and Annamaria

    Again....that's it..... NO intelligent conversation, NO refuting facts, JUST SNIPING and NASTINESS.

    At least Jaguar had a go, not much of one but at least he/she tried.

    YS
    You are jealous of Robiconda!.... well, well, well. That got me chuckling, something to lighten up my night.
    Come on YS, your little friend Annamaria hasn't abandoned you already has she. Step up Annamaria, YS needs some.... well something.... he is feeling unwanted.
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    3:19pm
    Mussitate the evangelist 'born again' communist: the day that you put up a FACT will be the day that pigs fly backwards.
    Anonymous
    8th Aug 2013
    6:53pm
    Hello Mussitate,you still rattlin on about nothing,most posters say whats on their mind in one sentence,why does it take you 10 pages to say something that is pointless and could be described in one word...bullshit..sorry mate but thats a fact.

    Your Friend Billy
    archer
    9th Aug 2013
    10:16am
    Well done Mussimate Agree absolutely
    But they can't hear you !!!! They probably deserve Abbott and the bridesmaid
    wally
    5th Aug 2013
    11:08pm
    Hi Musso, If Australia is the wealthiest country in the world, why does our Labor government have to borrow so much money from the Chinese to keep thing in Australia going? Frankly, I think your continued attacks on Murdoch reflects the John McTernan song book you love singing from in these posts. Doing so provides a red herring to direct the attention of the punters to personalities (as in the Big Brother tv show)instead of the policy and performance disasters of the current Labor government. Demonising the personalities of the LNP leadership distracts the more simple minded amongst us from the wretched and dismal failures of the Rudd inspired policies that have served as an albatross around Australia's neck since his election in 2007. If Kevin Fraud manages to fool enough voters to gain re election next month, how will he arrange ending Australia's dependence on borrowing from the Chinese loan sharks? Please explain.
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    11:25pm
    wally

    Really!...really! we borrow from the Chinese to keep us going. You don't follow economics well do you wally.

    You prove my point about the absolutely BIASED corporate (foreign) owned media, because they failed to tell you that there is a big, big difference between PRIVATE and COMMERCIAL DEBT and a government DEFICIT.

    Our government does not take responsibility for private and commercial concerns and debt wally old son and that is what you are sprouting.... Australia's private and commercial debt (although I don't think you have that right either but I will let that pass).


    Now on to all the failures that Labor & Rudd have had......Please Wally explain what these failures are in detail, so that we can then compare them to the HUMUNGOUS WORLD RENOWN achievements that Labor & Rudd have undertaken. Well go on wally!
    sensible senior
    6th Aug 2013
    6:41pm
    mussitate why dont you give us a lesson on government debt lover to hear from you
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:20am
    Well that made sense...."lover to hear from you".... what DOES that mean?

    You don't like my lesson on government debt.... I have more, would you like me to elucidate further?
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    9:37am
    mussitate mistype just like all you garbage. what lesson have you supplied on government debt please explain what you think government debt is you really dont know you are a bag of wind.
    Aloysius
    5th Aug 2013
    11:09pm
    The UK magazine "The Spectator" can see Mr Rudd for what he is but many Aussies cannot. The Spectator said (with apologies to Paul Hasluck):
    'We confess to a dislike of him. The longer one is associated with him the deeper the contempt for him grows and we find it hard to allow him any merit. Disloyal, devious, dishonest, untrustworthy, petty, cowardly — all these adjectives have been weighed by us and we could not in truth modify or reduce any one of them in its application to him. We find him a contemptible creature and this contempt and the adjectives we have chosen to apply to him sum up defects that cannot be balanced by better qualities.

    ‘He lost the good opinion of those with whom he is closely associated in politics for very simple reasons. He is disloyal and he can’t be trusted. He works for his own advancement by trying to destroy the reputation of his rivals. He worked against Brereton, against Crean, against Latham, against Beazley and against Gillard. We wonder if he deceives himself or whether in private there come the sad or the infuriating moments when his conceit breaks and he exposes himself to himself.’
    Anonymous
    5th Aug 2013
    11:45pm
    Oh! Please.... you give us a UK fascist rag to justify what our own fascist right wing corporate owned media (Murdoch) is saying. What makes you think this rag can do better than Murdoch's rag.

    Check this link out... it shows you why we shouldn't trust Murdoch's media or the LIBS:

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html

    Now.....I don't care what is said about RUDD or Labor, I look at the FACTS and AUSTRALIA is ON TOP OF THE WORLD.

    We are the most egalitarian, democratic, and wealthy nation in the world. Who cares what some idiot in the UK thinks about us ORDINARY AUSTRALIANs owning so much WEALTH or Rudd or the Labor Party. As long as RUDD and the LABOR PARTY keep doing things for ORDINARY AUSTRALIANS and NOT just the wealthy elite. Because that is who these absolute morons are in 'The Spectator' represent... the wealthy elite.

    They are simply jealous of what the Average Australian has and want to take it for themselves.

    Really, Aloysius, how disappointing.... quoting these moronic parasites of society.
    Pass the Ductape
    6th Aug 2013
    8:09am
    Mussitate

    Kevin should be offering you an appointment as head spin doctor for the Labour Party. Australia on top of the world? Complete rubbish! The fact is - we're on the bottom!
    Aloysius
    6th Aug 2013
    9:48am
    And Kevin has hired Obama's yankee spin doctors to help him convince Aussies that he is our saviour. Yeah! Sure! They're not parasites are they?
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:23am
    DUCKTAPE & ALOY

    So no intelligence, simply one liners.....except for Ducktape, who chose to SIMPLY LIE!

    You simply LIE when you can't face the truth. AUSTRALIA's ECONOMY is at the TOP of the WORLD.....FACT!
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    4:39pm
    Oh... the economy Mussitate. I was talking about Australia's place in the world - you know - the geographical position according to Murdoch. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that. Never mind - you catch up later, I'm sure!

    6th Aug 2013
    9:15am
    Spot on Ductape, but Mussitate is confused about how much money we owe. He cannot comprehend how much 300 to 400 billion is. Blow out of our debt at 3 billion a week. But still krudd is throwing our money away with gay abandon. We are on a down hill spiral and only the curbing of government spending will save us. Poor old Mr. Sheen does not understand that.
    wally
    6th Aug 2013
    10:44am
    Hi Musso. Are you suggesting that Australia should be indebted to the Chinese in perpetuity? You seem to be splitting hairs in regard to government debt and private sector debt. The dear, departed "World's Greatest Treasurer, Mark II" namely Wayne Swan, busily pronounced that he would deliver a government surplus each year )and had these grandiose claims prove to be false for six years running.) If, as you maintain, that Australia's debt to the Chinese is such a triviality, why would Swan make these statements for six years running?
    So once again,the great media Satan Murdoch is to be castigated for shining the spotlight of media attention on the unbelievably incompetent Labor Government. Why do you trot out this worn out line? Would you have us believe that Rupert Murdoch and Tony Abbott are responsible for the harebrained feel good schemes dreamed up by Kevin Fraud? Even the Fairfax(!) owned Financial Review informs its readers that it is time for Rudd to join Julia on the political scrapheap of failed Labor leaders.
    Why do the lefties of the Greens and the Labor Party persist in blaming the failures of this Labor government on "someone else"? Does this represent a childish, school yard mentality of dodging responsibility for making mistakes? Remember when Julia's trumpeted "Timor Solution" and the Malasian Solution for the boat people problem fell in a heap and she tried to blame Abbott for these debacles? I'm surprised she didn't blame John Howard as well.
    sensible senior
    7th Aug 2013
    9:41am
    totally agree with you wally
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    3:22pm
    well Musso'lini' reincarnated - answer the darn questions or shut up.
    Ted
    6th Aug 2013
    11:37am
    So now we have said that has anyone thought about KRUDD wanting to tax our bank savings. So now we pay income tax, GST, pay fees on each transaction, monthly bank fees, now a tax on savings. Why don't they just take all of our money and invent a tax credit system. The only thing that is now not taxed directly or indirectly in the sex act...even that has some tax attached to it. When do we say enough is enough you now want to rob us of millions of dollars just in case the banks fail....please what about when we all can't afford anything..... where is his accountability to tax payers? enough is enough and its time we send him and any other party that finding endless ways of taxing us has to stop!
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    12:39pm
    Despite the enormous profits the banks make, these costs will be passed on to all bank customers. They have already stated that. How Many taxes has the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd imposed on us during this last term in office? It would astound us. All this because Krudd cannot and never will balance the books. He is a complete drongo when it comes to finance and the economy. Only knows to borrow and hope, then pass his mess onto poor Abbott. It surprises me he would want to inherit such a mess. It will take years of tough government decisions to fix the incredible blow out caused by Rudd and Co. Don't forget he inherited 20 billion credit from the Howard Government. In Queensland, poor Campbell Newman has inherited a bankrupt state from the loser Bligh to the tune of 80 Billion. Only a very capable and tough pollie would want to take that on.
    sensible senior
    6th Aug 2013
    6:46pm
    TONY ABBOTT RHODES SCHOLAR
    K.RUDD BACHELOR OF ARTS
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:44am
    FACTS..... TED
    INCOME TAX
    * the amount that is untaxed was $6000 and has been increased to $18200 from the 1/7/12. This benefits the less advantaged in society because they do NOT have to pay ANY tax until their income reaches $18200. This is the first time this has changed for over twenty years.
    OTHER
    * Interest on Bank Savings has always been taxed??
    * Most BANK accounts are charged monthly bank fees??
    * GST was a HUGE NEW TAX that taxes even those that do NOT have an income, such as pensioners and was INTRODUCED by HOWARD and the LIBERAL PARTY.

    ABBOTT has already talked about giving the States full responsibility for HEALTH & EDUCATION. This responsibility will also mean PAYING for these VITAL services. To be able to pay for these VITAL services, the States will have to agree to a HUGE hike in the GST, costing each and every household at least $3000pa. NOT ONLY will you be OUT of POCKET your HEALTH and EDUCATION will differ between states and the laws and costs and regulations will differ. For example, NSW & VIC receive a lot in GST but the other States do not, so they can afford to pay more for these VITAL services than the other States.

    If you want to complain about these things, take a look at what you could be up for IF ABBOTT takes over!!!!

    Surfer

    Howard RAISED MORE TAXES than any other government in the HISTORY of Australia AND SPENT more money than any other government in the HISTORY of Australia - FACT.

    Howard TOOK all OUR money, raised from GST (it was a killing) and GAVE it to PRIVATE ENTERPRISES. Yes, GAVE our hard earned money to PRIVATE SCHOOL Institutions and PRIVATE HEALTH insurers, when many of those that paid the most, couldn't afford to send their kids to Private Schools OR use Private Health Services.

    He DID nothing for AUSTRALIA as a whole and UNDER HOWARD, the RICH got RICHER and the POOR got POORER.....FACT!


    Unsensible senior

    For goodness sake. Then WHY is ABBOTT soooooooooooo AFRAID of debating RUDD. ABBOTT is an IDIOT, even you have MORE intelligence.

    I hold little pieces of paper too BUT it doesn't make me more intelligent, it just tells you that I had better opportunities than others.

    GET A GRIP!!!!!
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    3:26pm
    hey Musso: get a life. Lets look at your 1st rant shall we -
    '* the amount that is untaxed was $6000 and has been increased to $18200 from the 1/7/12. This benefits the less advantaged in society because they do NOT have to pay ANY tax until their income reaches $18200'
    well, write this down so you dont forget - nobody was paying tax under $18200 ANYWAY !!!!
    All that the shifty buggers did was change the formula and in doing so benefited NO ONE !!
    Aloysius
    7th Aug 2013
    5:15pm
    Kev is looking to appear fiscally responsible without losing a single vote. Robbing banks might be an honorable vocation if that’s what Kev intended but he is actually robbing us, not the banks.

    Kev claims a levy on bank deposits is a safeguard against another GFC. Kev loves GFCs! He had a wonderful time last time chucking our money around like confetti at a Balmain same-sex marriage.

    Banks of course will pass on anything Kev imposes but his audacity to say he is setting this levy aside as a “future contingency fund” against another GFC while at the same time subtracting it from his budget bottom line blow-out is astounding.

    It seems this sort of creative accounting is illegal everywhere except in Canberra!

    Astounding in the same way is his $90 billion NBN fiasco. It was taken off-budget as a, “future salable item”.

    Astounding in the same way is his $20 billion boats fiasco. It was taken off to PNG.

    Astounding in the same way is the multi billions in his current and future boats’ costs. These are to be offset against our foreign aid budget... anything to keep his costly con jobs apparently “budget neutral”.

    Astounding in the same way is his tobacco tax. It is spread over the four years of forward estimates so as to minimise the voter backlash on Uncle Kev yet he includes the full $5.4 billion "savings" in his budget estimates.

    His baccy tax is designed to stop people smoking yet his foggy forward estimates' budgeted income is contingent on that very same rate of smoking! WTF?

    Astounding in the same way is his “catch the tax cheats” FBT axe. It inadvertently fell on the motor industry and innocent others costing millions in tax revenue yet was also subtracted from his bottom line deficit.

    Astounding in the same way is how he stole and renamed Julia’s NDIS (now DisabilityCare Australia). He plans to hijack the electoral benefit of this fraud as the billions in bills won’t be due until 2020, well outside the forward estimates.
    It's in a cheap trial mode... and will be for years!

    And Julia’s Gonski (now Kev’s Better Schools Plan) the same bloody thing.

    Astounding in the same way is his claim to have ditched the carbon tax with a “$380 per annum” saving to householders. This is another Kev whopper, without even a blush.

    He has NOT ditched the carbon tax. He has brought forward the ETS by one year! There is NO saving and even if there was a saving, it would be a one-off, not the “per annum” saving he consistently claims.

    Cunning Kev, with typical treachery, is now forcing Treasury to follow his fallacious budget forecast by pre-empting it with his own.

    Wastrels, both Uncle Kev and Aunty Julia, have relied on the average bloke not understanding that this Government has consistently and deliberately shoved its debts on to future Governments to deal with while sneakily secreting its own outrageous profligacy.

    Oh well, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You see, Kev passionately believes he is a messiah of biblical proportions... and we all know what happened there.
    Flagman
    6th Aug 2013
    11:45am
    Tia-Maria I would be interested to know who specifically on this site I was "rude" to? I tried to put my opinion as 'delicately as possible so as to not be "rude" but evidently some people are so thin skinned they take everything personally! Mussitate for instance having a go at my flag to me is just hilarious when compared with what he comes out with! Methinks that those who complain so loudly are of that socialist bent where "of course we respect your opinion and views AS LONG AS THEY AGREE WITH YOURS!! Dream on .....
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    12:06pm
    Why do you have an Oz flag avatar Flagman? What are you really trying to say with it and your name? I must admit I feel a bit turned off by people who drape themselves and/or homes in the Aussie flag. It says 'redneck' to me, akin with yank rednecks. What is the point of shoving flags in people's faces?
    tia-maria
    6th Aug 2013
    2:48pm
    Flagman, wake up mate un-necessary comment here dont you think???????.dont be so thin skin.......and nobody needs to agree with any one comments.
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    12:27pm
    Robiconda, I am thinking of changing my Avatar from "Will and Kate" to the

    "Wonderful West Coast Eagles" flag.

    Now that will make all you Victorians have a vomiting session. If you are not a Victorian, that means you might be at least, a half honest person.

    6th Aug 2013
    12:29pm
    I'm voting Green and preferencing Labor. At least I know what their policies are and agree with most of them. The LNP is not open with the public, plays devious mind games and has a leader who turns my stomach. I agree with Mussitate completely. The LNP will endanger our economy with the austerity measures they intend to put in place. I also fear they will increase GST which will severely impact on those on fixed incomes. That's you and me buddy!
    Aloysius
    6th Aug 2013
    12:35pm
    And the Greens would bankrupt the country by closing all industry, tearing down our borders and handing over the government of the country to the United Nations. I don't think many people will support that platform.
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    1:06pm
    Please please Robiconda, Not Greens. They scare the heck out of me. We do want to have some country left after Rudd's spendathon. Think I will have to head for PNG.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:50am
    Aloysius & Surfer

    Oh! no, not the bogey Greens. Is that what you are told to do, rubbish the Greens because the LIBS don't want them holding any power in the Senate!

    Very dutiful BOYS but a bit transparent.

    IT IS ESSENTIAL that whoever is in government, that they do NOT have control of the Senate.

    I am also looking at WIKILEAKS PARTY for the SENATE.

    Hell....I would hate to think of what that patsy ABBOTT would do if he got control of both houses. GOODBYE AUSTRALIA.... sold out to the highest bidder!
    Aloysius
    7th Aug 2013
    8:24am
    i don't read any of Murdoch's papers so please leave it alone. Do have alook at the Green's manifesto and you will see that they are committed to One World Government and the cessation of any activity that might actually produce productivity gains.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    11:59am
    Please Mussitate, I gave you more credit than to be a greenie as well. That party should not exist. In a country like Australia, we just cannot afford to have a government controlled by a bunch of tree huggers a that want to take any boat people that arrive on our shores. The present hung parliament has been dissasterous for all concerned. They would completely bankrupt OZ..
    Flagman
    6th Aug 2013
    12:34pm
    Robiconda - why not have a Oz flag? If you think it makes me a redneck then fine, I'm a redneck! (I'm not really those who know me love me!!)
    Anonymous
    6th Aug 2013
    1:00pm
    I think our flag means a lot so see nothing wrong with it. Better than the hammer and sickle. Perhaps thats what these socialists are all about.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:55am
    It's propagandised patriotism, designed to indoctrinate and immobilise any opposition to corporate control and takeover of our democracy.

    In effect it is a CON and therefore very dangerous.

    But by all means, Surfer and Flagman, place your little hands over your heart and swear allegiance to your corporate masters. Oh! and don't forget to clock your brain, at the door! It is an essential component to being a 'redneck' or 'bogan'.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:27pm
    Sooner be a redneck or bogan than a communist.

    6th Aug 2013
    1:01pm
    Reds under the beds.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    1:59am
    At least whilst they are under the beds, we are safe.

    NOT LIKE the corporate FASCISTS, they are OUT THERE amongst us ..... and anything goes with that lot..... lock up your children, they are no longer safe.
    Bunyip
    6th Aug 2013
    1:45pm
    In Queensland we had a 6 month lead up to election last year, now we've had another 6 month lead up to this election. Don't these idiots realize that the electorate looses confidence until the results are posted and again can make plans for the future. It is so that our big 2 parties can make the most advantage of travel, accommodation and office staff to use for electioneering purposes.
    I am sick to death listening to the drivel, B/S, half lies and lies that is sprouting from the mouths of mediocre self centered politicians, their media tarts and their parties. Then we have to listen/read read some absolute mind dead diatribe from their supporters.(and we have some on this page too) You can listen to someone and think that they are intelligent and with it, until you hear them sprouting forth such drivel when the subject of politics arise. The ALP, Coalition or the second string Labor Party- the Greens, have not got the answers for the longterm future of this Country. The Labor party used to represent the workers....not any more by ANY stretch of the imagination. The Greens are green in name only, they have done little in the environmental sphere-more interested in being in POWER and supporting the ALP.
    I don't trust the Coalition. Who will I vote for? I'm looking for an independent, or a new party....anyone who can dilute the power of the status quo.Try to keep the"B's honest).If we keep on voting for the same idiots, we will still get the same idiotic results....and we have to listen/read one eyed cock eyed rubbish for another month.....If I have offended someone....good, start thinking for yourself and stop being led by mediocrity. I don't want to be a party to a race to the bottom- to hand onto the next generation. Manipulation of the General Public is a science- be aware , we are being manipulated...bigtime.
    "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society… In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons … who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

    – Edward Bernays, founder of the public relations industry.

    Food for thought? who is manipulating you?? Most are completely unaware!!! read your own posts and analyze...check for real facts not party "facts?"......not emotional.... ..verifiable facts..
    Aussiefrog
    6th Aug 2013
    2:36pm
    Couldn't agree more Bunyip, you're spot on mate.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:03am
    WikiLeaks Party are NEW and they stand for Transparency, Accountability and Justice.

    Julian Assange, doesn't give in to pressure and will not fold and has continued to stand up for Transparency, Accountability and Justice, even though he has been pursued by the most powerful nation in the world, the USA.

    Here is an email address if you are interested: contact@wikileaksparty.org.au
    Bunyip
    7th Aug 2013
    9:34am
    Thanks Aussiefrog....Mussitate I live in Queensland, so can't vote for Julian. When you sit back and watch this thread....you can see how Bernays principles have been used very successfully....unfortunately..never let facts get in the way of a good story???? or prejudice!!
    There are 3 truths- your truth
    my truth
    "the truth"
    If we can work within "the truth" there will be progress.......the other 2 truths are irrelevant. But many can only work on "my truth".... it maybe be so biased and under researched as to not come within a bulls roar of "the truth". Some are incapable of anything but "my truth"...to the extent it becomes a religious fervor, and becomes set in concrete....and so many are sooooo easily led...hence the yanks are here to lead the easily led using Bernays principles. To be fair, we are all lead to certain degree, but we need to be AWARE of this.
    wally
    6th Aug 2013
    1:50pm
    I can only wonder what situation Australia would be in had Julia Gillard and Labor had won a majority of seats in the 2010 election. What would she have done if she did not have to appease the Greens and the three stooge independents to remain in power? Her subsequent predicament shows what can happen when you choose power over principle in the political arena. I feel that history will judge her as a victim of her own hubris and the poor advice of people whose loyalty in dealing with Rudd should have served as a warning as to what she could expect when the road got bumpy.
    I also wonder how her knitting of the Kangaroo for the little prince is progressing.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:05am
    Australia's ECONOMY is STILL at the TOP of the WORLD and we are doing better than any other country.

    Gillard has suffered enough PERSONAL INSULTS just because she is a woman wally.....so give it a break, mate. Why don't you go and knit something, aye!
    toot2000
    6th Aug 2013
    3:45pm
    I hope the Libs win, Tony says he can stop the boats, let's see if he can.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:14am
    Well, that is how HOWARD got in.... on the racist ticket, why not try it again, aye. Pity RUDD came up with a plan that stops ALL refugees from getting into Australia...they go to PNG who WANT people, they have a place to live and Australia's AID helps PNG to upscale its economy and join the 21st century. All good.

    HOWEVER, toot2000, you haven't told me just how TONY will stop the tiny, tiny, tiny amount of refugees coming into Australia.... he hasn't told us and what he has told us is a total JOKE.

    Next, what about the REAL problem of oodles and oodles of legal and illegal economic IMMIGRANTS coming into Australia. NOT A MENTION from MURDOCH'S MEDIA?????? No? That's because Murdoch and his cronies want as many people in Australia as possible so that they can have us fighting each other for jobs and therefore they can give us less in wages which means more money in THIER pockets. Look at the USA, people there have to work two jobs to make a normal wage and some from WallMart, got paid in WallMart Vouchers instead of money!!! The corporations are bringing in people on work visas to work the mines and anywhere else.....these are the ones TAKING OUR JOBS.

    The Refugees are the least of our worries
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:23pm
    Tony will stop the boats, they did it before and will do it again. We should send Krudd off to PNG. That's what he deserves.
    aquatrek
    6th Aug 2013
    5:00pm
    Well, here we go again - but for the last time [unless I have to repeat it for the hard of hearing]:

    Statistically Oz has been governed by a mix of 66% coalition parties that support the rural and business sectors. The other 34% is the ALP who supposedly supports the workers through the trade unions.

    The outcome over the 200+ years is the Oz that we have today. A blend of socialism in short bursts and the rest a capitalistic democratic approach to managing a countries prosperity. Its not much different to running a very very large corporation with the 'board' being represented by the Federal Government and the corporate sections being the various Federal portfolios and the States.

    It all boils down to the ALP track record of date ? versus the past Coalition track record ? Whom do you 'trust' ?
    It also gets down to the nitty grit of the budget [income versus expenditure]. A well managed budget allows for some short term borrowing for large infrastructure projects and a balanced approach. The ALP history for budget surpluses = 0; in fact they say often that a surplus is not necessary due to the wealth inherent in the Oz economy - so why did they promise promise promise and then failed to deliver a surplus - or even a close to surplus ? Now its a multi-billion $$ blowout ?? Who does their books ? well it seems themselves. Trust ?
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:17am
    NOT AGAIN.....so what!

    When the LIBS get in they do NOTHING - NO infrastructure; they RUN DOWN PUBLIC schools and PUBLIC health services; they FEED the wealthy; they INCREASE TAXES for the average and poor Australia.

    When Labor get in they have to FIX all these PROBLEMS and so the cycle goes on.

    Your stats say absolutely ZILCH..NOTHING!
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    9:10am
    What is being said dear communist friend is that this ALP, despite the comeback kids attempt to sweep the baddies under the bed, are so corrupt it is a farce. With 5 weeks to go the public will not have forgotten. There is more still to come and the comeback kid will be fighting spot fires like a firefighhter in speedos hahahahaha

    Add to that smear of dirt the failed projects which will not be forgotten either. Dudd didnt even apologize for the pink batts deaths until forced to. The PNG solution is another farce - Muslims being settled in a country that uses pigs as a monetary base for trade - another farce - and so it goes on and on and on.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    11:08am
    Very good stats Aquatrek and very well written. Agree 100% with what you say. Positive and to the point. Not bogged down in negative remarks, just facts as they are.
    Paddles
    6th Aug 2013
    10:33pm
    I know that this is possibly off topic on this thread but I would like to see opinions on the role and power of the opposing leaders in the upcoming election.

    I deplore the media concentration, slavishly followed by many contributors to these pages, on the Rudd Vs. Abbott scenario.

    I believe that there are many good people, on both sides of the political divide, whose worth is not acknowledged.

    Unless you subscribe to the principles of dictatorship, then please stop talking about Rudd versus Abbott and consider the whole package that either side could bring to the governance of our country.
    aquatrek
    6th Aug 2013
    10:43pm
    isnt it the fact that some political lies are just grander and greater than others ?
    Young Simmo
    6th Aug 2013
    10:48pm
    Paddles, that's having a bob each way, I think for most of us it has to be black or white. I say white, I hope that doesn't make me a Racist.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:23am
    Paddles

    We have our differences BUT what you have just said, is intelligent and simply asks people to think about the bigger picture. Essentially, I agree.
    Young Simmo
    7th Aug 2013
    9:55am
    WARNING_____WARNING______WARNING
    The medical authorities have just issued a warning regarding a new Mosquito born Visus called Murdocktivirus. There are 2 versions so far discovered in Australia. The main virus is referred to as MUSSITBRAINLESS, and it causes people who are loosing an argument to write longer and longer comments, which become more and more difficult to comprehend. The 2nd type of Murdocktivirus is called RUDDIVIRUS and the patient begins to think they are in love with the Prime Minister. The longer they have to wait for a kiss from the prime minister the more strange and weird their comments become. So please if you know anybody who may be suffering with this unusual recently introduced disease, please note that persons location and call 000. You never know, you might just save that persons relatives from an aggravating period of unbelievable mental torment.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    4:35pm
    Young Simmo! I LOVE IT!!!! Best laugh I've had all day.... But then, I suppose all members of the rat-pack would love it......

    Wait for it - damn - I think I must have caught one of those viruses you were talking about..... I can feel it's presence.
    Young Simmo
    7th Aug 2013
    4:41pm
    Ductape In addition to my bad news above, I can give you the medication to make the symptoms go away very quickly. That is 6 cans of VB, followed by 6 large wine glasses of red. After that the only thing I can think of is, Jennifer Hawkins.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Aug 2013
    4:53pm
    Damn! Your thought processes are way ahead of mine Young Simmo. I hope your name is reasonably commensurate with your age, otherwise you could be in a bit of trouble!! LOL
    Young Simmo
    7th Aug 2013
    4:57pm
    Yeh Ductape, so far I have never heard of anybody having a baby as a result of a dream. At least not yet, He, He, He.
    wally
    7th Aug 2013
    10:49am
    Hi Mussitate. Why is it that anyone you disagree is either a sexist, a racist, a bigot or all three. The tone of your most recent posts reflect racism, bigotry and sexism to an alarming degree. We should, (you particularly) should be aware that resorting to personal abuse is the last resort when you cannot provide rational argument or facts to support your biased and bigotted assertions. Straight out of the John McTernan Handbook for Distorting Facts and Viewpoints.
    PS Glad you went to see Kevin 07 in action. Maybe you should take off your straight jacket and go see Tony Abbott. Perhaps the scales will fall from your eyes.
    Paddles
    8th Aug 2013
    7:45am
    Wally

    Funny that you should say that. I watched "the Bolt Report" on Sunday morning and included among the guests was Warren Mundine, the former president of the ALP.
    He said that those who claimed to dislike Tony Abbott should be careful not to meet him as they would then be forced to change their minds.

    7th Aug 2013
    10:56am
    Good stuff Young Simmo, I don't know why some people seem to think they are writing a book when they come on here. Well I never want to get Ruddivirus as the Krudd makes my hair stand on end. At least Tony Abbott is a real man, a lifesaver and a fireman. Can you imagine Krudd as a life saver in budgy smugglers and his hair blowing all over the place. He would need a hair net. I see why Mussitbrainless is associated with Murdocktivirus. A very bad disease and a worry for all Australia.
    toot2000
    7th Aug 2013
    12:54pm
    The deficit is the gap between what the government spends and what it gets in income, mainly from taxes and yes, most countries around the world at the moment have one. But Labor came to power with a huge surplus which to my mind proves the Libs knew how to balance the books, Labor on the other hand seems to have no idea.
    Anonymous
    7th Aug 2013
    2:20pm
    Well, we had the worlds greatest treasurer Wayne Swan, and look what happened to him. Mr. Krudd did not like him so he was gone in a flash. None of them capable of running a budget. Labors figures are all fudged so you cannot believe any thing they say. From a surplus of 19 Billion when labor took over from Mr. Howard to a deficit of between 300 and 400 Billion now. Say no more.
    Ecstatic Cyclist
    7th Aug 2013
    2:43pm
    At the end of the last parliament Hansard records
    The first figure is Labor and the second figure is Liberal
    Unemployment (Monthly average): 5.1% 6.4%
    Inflation: 2.5% 2.6%
    Home loan mortgage rate: 6.4% 7.3%
    Household savings: 8.9% 2.3%
    Tax as a percentage of GDP: 22.0% 23.4%
    Government spending (average annual growth): 2.9% 3.3%
    Infrastructure (ranking out of 25OECD countries): 2nd 20th

    Since Labor came to power in 2007:
    The stock market is up 17.5 per cent. The value of shares on the ASX is up $200 billion. The official cash rate is down by 0.75 per cent. Employment is up 164,000. House prices are up 1.7 per cent and the value of housing stock is up $68 billion.
    aquatrek
    7th Aug 2013
    5:20pm
    I am pretty sure that these are your own Hansard figures taken via lip reading
    Anonymous
    8th Aug 2013
    8:36am
    Sorry, but you have them back to front. You are not a greenie are you?
    archer
    9th Aug 2013
    10:39am
    It's not the sort of truth that can be told here
    They will call you a commo'!' And abuse you
    Dave
    7th Aug 2013
    5:27pm
    How the ALP are still allowed to be running as a party is beyond me, how they can continue to function when they are so split and constantly knifing each other in the back , anywhere else they would have been banned from Government and probably disbanded as a Party.

    Anybody who votes for this "party" really need a mental health check.

    Its an insult to the Australian IQ that has Rudd as prefered Prime Minister in the polls, I have more faith in the Taliban .

    Utter embarrasment to the Australian people if they get in power again.
    Paddles
    7th Aug 2013
    6:47pm
    “Every day, every minute, every time Rudd opens his mouth, Labor voters – like beer fairies when someone drinks a Canadian Club – explode and die.
    It’s the mind-boggling condescension; the grotesque narcissism; the pretentious over-analysis of everything; the ludicrous thesaurus-mined vocabulary, that makes his every speech a weird froth of verbiage devoid of actual meaning; the overwhelming smugness; the insufferable conceit; the off-the-scale self-regard; the insane, all-consuming craving for unanimous awed recognition as the smartest person in the room (and any room); the teenage levels of self-aggrandisement; the hilarious bigging-up name-dropping; the crass, pathetic, utter inability to relate to anyone below his perceived level, AKA everybody; the primed-to-explode grievances that fester behind the rictus smile; the ridiculous OCD of the just-so white-shirt-coloured-tie-and-navy-suit – unless it’s a weekend and it’s the ridiculous OCD of the just-so-khaki-chinos-and-chambray-shirt; the painful fakeness of the manufactured persona; the desperate fist-clenching as he suppresses the anger that ordinary people make him feel; the lightning speed to perceive a slight; the drawn-out hundred-fold revenge in return; the delight in humiliating those beneath him; and the cloying, fulsome, gushing insincerity of his fawning over other world leaders.
    Does anyone seriously think this man can be voted in as Prime Minister again by an electorate now wholly and painfully aware of all of the above?
    Sorry, Kevin, it’s over. Australia knows you now.”
    toot2000
    7th Aug 2013
    10:23pm
    I think Kevin Rudd has a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and think this definition fits him perfectly.
    "Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behaviour), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behaviour may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today."

    Seeing him constantly smiling and waving to an adoring audience on the news every night is driving me crazy.
    Young Simmo
    7th Aug 2013
    11:53pm
    Well, judging from my assessment of the above comments the libs will sh*t it in. Sorry Musstibate but you are on a looser, try your luck again in another 3 years. Now Tony, don't do what is forecast to the pensioners because you will be one, one day. OK, your pension will probably be a couple of cents better than mine, so show a little bit of conscious, OK?
    Paddles
    8th Aug 2013
    7:54am
    Young Simmo

    I realise that I am an old pedant but, by and large, I appreciate your posts as you don't take things too seriously but for Heaven's sake, please learn to spell lose (not LOOSE) and loser (not LOOSER). Depending upon context, your little error can produce some amusing dialogue all by itself but I would still prefer that you pay due respect to our language.
    Young Simmo
    8th Aug 2013
    9:33am
    Sorry paddles but spell check likes both of them, I will ring Bill Gates and let him know his Spell Check is getting me into truubooooooool, bugger here I go again.
    aquatrek
    8th Aug 2013
    9:54am
    a RAP over the knuckles there Young Simmo hehe
    Young Simmo
    8th Aug 2013
    9:59am
    Not sure aquatrek unless RAP stands for RIGHT AND PROPER.
    aquatrek
    8th Aug 2013
    10:40am
    good acronym - better than being Paddled hehe
    HOLA
    8th Aug 2013
    7:57am
    Two Chinese had a black baby, what did they call him? SUM TING WONG. And I think something is wrong with a lot of you and your nasty comments. Try and have a normal discussion without all the snide remarks. Some of you are very entertaining with your wit but sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. C'mon guys, we all want our Parties to win but think about the lucky country we live in, we have so much more than other poor countries. People are never satisfied with what is given to them. Pensioners could be given $1200.00 a fortnight and I bet someone would complain that it was not enough. I'm a Pensioner and I would love to get extra, but what is the use of complaining?

    8th Aug 2013
    8:34am
    Sorry Masturbate but how could you possible back Krudd. What a despicable little man he is, spreading lies and saying the Libs/ Nats will increase the GST after they have said it is not on the agenda. He would stop at nothing to get power. He is a disgrace. Good on you Tony, at least you are up front with what you say. A pollie we can all trust.
    toot2000
    8th Aug 2013
    9:35am
    Someone snapped a photo of Albanese having a beer with Craig Thomson, I wonder what they talked about. Thomson must be laughing his head off, he used union funds as his own personal money tree for years and got away with it. Like Eddie Obeid and his band of thieves,Thomson stole from his union members and will never be held to account. Something is seriously wrong with our justice system.
    aquatrek
    8th Aug 2013
    9:47am
    its not the justice to blame - its the ALP mentality - although another topic on the justice system would open up that can of worms for discussion

    on the box last night a report on a court building in Parramatta that has no judges permanently assigned to it because they wont travel from the north shore or eastern suburbs
    aquatrek
    8th Aug 2013
    9:48am
    ps - Albanese said that it was a mates private drink after work and they had one beer in 10 minutes - just a quickie
    Young Simmo
    8th Aug 2013
    9:52am
    aquatrek, sorry mate but that was 50 beers and 10 hrs, maybe your dog barked while you were watching the news.

    8th Aug 2013
    10:31am
    Elbow, Elbow bending seems the flavour of the month. One beer in ten minutes, must have been a huge glass or was it a jug? Wonder how many pro's they jacked up, on labors advertising funds.
    Supernan
    8th Aug 2013
    11:20am
    Having read a lot of the above it convinces me that, no matter what the actual facts are, & no matter how many times the actual facts are listed, people will believe what they want to believe. Even the truth will not change their opinion.
    Bunyip
    8th Aug 2013
    5:10pm
    Supernan, no truer words were ever written.

    8th Aug 2013
    12:41pm
    Jobless rate remains at 4 year high.Full time positions drop by 6700 while part-time positions also fell by 3500. The participation rate was 65.1 per cent, 0.2 per cent down from June.

    The economy is turning to poo. Manufacturing jobs lost by the thousands. Thank you Labor. Now shove off so we can fix the economy
    aquatrek
    8th Aug 2013
    12:48pm
    immediately sack the entire scare mongering climate change department for a start ...... then immediately recruit asap more nurses so that better patient care ratios are put in place and kept there in legislation .... then - your turn
    Young Simmo
    8th Aug 2013
    1:00pm
    If it was my turn next, I would say double the $500.00 fuel card in WA. Also add in a free carton of Swan Export each week.
    Jurassicgeek
    8th Aug 2013
    1:26pm
    Since McDudd has called the election sooner than later we all must think of what our options are..pretty easy in my mind..no choice here at all..I will just have to vote for Daffy Duck with my preferences going to Elmer Fudd.At least I get some enjoyment when watching the antics of these two.....
    catsahoy
    8th Aug 2013
    2:30pm
    I AM NOT A VERY POLITICAL PERSON AT any time, and the more i read the more confused i get, i personally dont care if the candidates are RHODES SCHOLARS or not, i go on the policies that are put forward, so far no one has said anything about the polocies i care about, just seems money is being thrown around for nothing, WHY are they giving all this money for maternity leave? i am 73, have 3 children, when i had my kids they were planned for and when i had to give up work to have them, we made sure we had what we needed before hand, no maternity leave, no big baby bonus, we got 50 cents a week in endowment, that was it, if they now have all this money to back the car industry, why couldnt they use it before all these jobs in that industry were lost? from where i sit neither of them are worth voting for, BUT WHATS THE ALTERNATIVE, ?I AM dreading this election because i dont want either of them, neither have the policies i find important for my kids and grandchildren,
    FEDUP
    8th Aug 2013
    5:04pm
    Now we have Peter Beattie running for the Federal Parliament. I can recall when it was not the Labor Party in Queensland; it was the Peter Beattie Party. Just as now it is the K. RUDD PARTY not the Labor Party. He has virtually assured himself as leader of the LABOR PARTY, for life;subject to the endorsement of the Federal Caucus. Reminds me of CALIGULA and what he did to manage the populace, he manufactured the CIRCUS, made them forget the problems of the day. Anyway wait until the fur starts flying, as both Peter and Kevin, both have ego's bigger than the National debt.
    sensible senior
    8th Aug 2013
    6:28pm
    fedup peter beattie is a dog just a thought but kevin rudd has just stabbed another p0erson in the back, i am well aware of peter beattie and his antics i have lived in marreba where i was nursing also herberton and peter beattie was not liked in atherton at all he was not good for queensland and peter macinroth handled the money from the floods etc, i would not trust him either then we have nuttall what a wicked webb we weave. i cannot understand how the people of qld could prefer a pretty face of rudd to a vegenitre sandwich. unfortunately if they get back in i will suffer also. JUST WANT TO SAY WATCH YOUR BACK RUDD HE IS NOT COMING BACK JUST TO SIT ON THE BENCH
    Anonymous
    8th Aug 2013
    6:46pm
    I just love the way you never hold back on what you think Sensible Senior,good stuff,and keep it coming too,i think you would of been a force to be reckoned with in your day!

    Billy
    Anonymous
    9th Aug 2013
    6:43am
    Agree with you sensible senior. Peter Beattie was the start of Queensland going bankrupt before letting Bligh finish the job. Just another incompetent fool. I felt very sorry for the labor candidate Beattie has kicked out. He looked a nice young family man and had done a lot of work in that seat. Just another stabbed in the back by an old buggar with one foot on a banana skin. What a great pair, Krudd and Beattie are. Just a pair of losers. Please Tony, spare us more pain and put this pair where they belong. On the scrap heap.
    Pass the Ductape
    9th Aug 2013
    7:09am
    I'd love to have a say on the Peter Beattie issue but it's all been said. All that's left now, is to see just how far into the realms of comedy will this farcical election show progress.
    sensible senior
    9th Aug 2013
    10:31am
    thanks for the compliment i think king billy i do know this

    ON THE DAY THAT I WAS BORN
    THE DEVIL WOKE IN A COLD SWEAT
    AND SAID OH SHIT SHE'S HERE
    aquatrek
    8th Aug 2013
    5:19pm
    http://cairnsnews.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/heiner-affair-2013-carmody-says-labor-covered-up-child-sex-rudd-should-be-charged/
    and he is running for Prime Minister !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????????????????????????????? WTF ?
    Anonymous
    9th Aug 2013
    6:50am
    Nothing would surprise me re Rudd. Just a disgusting little man. Crawling around kissing babies in order to suck up to the mothers. Getting his photo taken with the multitude and doing high fives. Running this country, I don't think so.
    Doggy Di
    8th Aug 2013
    6:13pm
    So, so GLAD that my Anglo-Saxon forebears came to this wonderful country, my heartfelt apologies to our wonderful original "Australians" for my ancestors' indecent lack of acknowledgement to YOU whose country we are continually changing and challenging for "western" reasons - $$$ profits! We are now a democratic country and can vote for who we like (or least dis-like!) so go to the polls and make your preferences known with NO fear of reprisal. If you disagree with the policies of all contestants - STAND UP as an independent at the next elections!! There may be thousands of us who agree with you!
    Doggy Di.

    8th Aug 2013
    6:57pm
    Labor Forever...Forever Labor

    Labor Forever...Forever Labor...thats it in a nutshell!

    Cut and dried,said and done!

    Labor Forever...Forever Labor.
    Anonymous
    9th Aug 2013
    6:55am
    Forever down the tube, forever and ever.
    Bunyip
    9th Aug 2013
    10:49am
    I hope you are being sarcastic...otherwise you sound like another lemming heading over a cliff.....being led by another smart operator using Bernays principles of manipulation. The opposition and Greens are a dead loss too. More tax, more over government, selling off our natural resources, selling off our power, water and sewage plants, (and this was to make it cheaper..duh) more manufacturing closing or going overseas, more expenses every day for the working man, with no increases in income to offset these expenses, (and they are talking about our wage rates being too high...duh) our children can't FIND A JOB or afford to buy homes anymore. If you are happy being lied to, B/S ed to, being treated like 3 year olds and being led by the short and curlies by the big 3 parties, you should vote for them. Those who can see through the Bullcrap, Know we need to elect more independents and new parties to dilute the unfetted power the big 3 have over us dopey citizens. Remember the old story...you can always tell when a politician is lying....you can see his lips move. The big 3 aren't talking about what we want, what is best for the country...just clever manipulation to get their shiny bums on the leather seats in power..promise much and deliver infinitesimally little....but this is what the dopey electorate seems to willingly swallow...can't remember the last election and the last list of broken promises...
    The major parties have imported specialist in the art of manipulation from the US. They only have to "lead" 20% of the electorate of the easily led- less educated, lower socio economic voters and they have won the election. The general voter appears to be very naive when casting their vote...THEY GIVE IT AWAY to the best Bull*hit artist....
    Aloysius
    8th Aug 2013
    7:12pm
    Does this sound like the Kevin Rudd you know?

    "One thing I know for certain, the old politics of the past just won't work for the future. Wall to wall negativity doesn't create a single job. Negative personal politics doesn't build a single school. The old politics of division doesn't build a single hospital."
    - Kevin Rudd, Sunday 4 August 2013

    A day later, Kevin Rudd launched a deceitful and negative attack ad that has now been pulled by both YouTube and Facebook.
    sensible senior
    9th Aug 2013
    9:07am
    just another thought on the p.n.g. solution. the national parliament of p.n.g. reportedly sits on the 10th september 2013, just a few days after the election. is it true that a motion in the confidence may be used against the p.n.g. prime minister re the refrugee settlement deal between australia and p.n.g. so is this the reason for the 7th september election
    toot2000
    9th Aug 2013
    9:29am
    Good thinking SS, it could fall in a heap three days after the election
    Aloysius
    9th Aug 2013
    11:15am
    PNG spokesmen stated last night that after fast-processing applications, those deemed to be refugees will be free to go to any country they choose and that PNG won't have a future for them. Wasn't Kevin giving PNG $500 billion for this fast-tracking system. The boat smugglers will do a roaring trade now that they will be fast-tracked to Australia. How many more boat catastrophes can we expect?
    particolor
    9th Aug 2013
    11:07am
    VOTE LABOR !!!..
    Got a Smoke Mate ?? << Back to the 60's..
    NAH !!! I Think I'll vote for Garbageman !!
    aquatrek
    9th Aug 2013
    8:20pm
    I bet Mussitate is watching the SBS Russia with Jonathan Dimbleby - yearning for the good ole dacha days

    http://www.sbs.com.au/documentary/program/964
    wally
    9th Aug 2013
    9:52pm
    Wonder how far Manus Island is from the Kokoda Track? Or how far Thursday Island is from PNG? Will the boat people become the canoe people?
    Anonymous
    10th Aug 2013
    9:07am
    No, they will wade across to Aussie at low tide.
    aquatrek
    10th Aug 2013
    10:19am
    Papua New Guineans walk over now to go shopping and for medical - maybe they will build a 4 m high razor wire fence with a gate for the Muslims who cant stand the smell of pigs ?
    aquatrek
    10th Aug 2013
    8:14am
    by LP: LABOR/GREENS CAN STOP THE BOATS
    There are six States and two Territories in Australia. (Let’s leave the ACT out of this because it has always had blind Labor allegiance supporting half of Australia’s union membership.)

    Of the six States only two are dire basket cases and those two are Labor States. The remaining four States are burdened with repairing the economic damage of Labor, after a period of all six States having endured Labor/Green annihilation.

    Gillard governed in "coalition" with the Greens, yet there is just one Green member (Adam Bandt) in a House of 150 members, so to suggest the Greens are an over represented rabble is a gross understatement!

    Lara Giddings, Labor Premier of Tasmania, rules with 23% of the vote compared to the Liberals 30%. But with the Greens’ vote at 20% (twice the national average) Giddings can comfortably govern with their assistance.

    Jay Weatherill, Labor Premier of South Australia and ex-partner of Penny Wong, (say no more) rules the State of South Australia in his own right with a very influential Greens’ representation of 14% of the vote. (National polling is currently diminishing at 9%.)

    Both Labor States have successfully fought off the Conservatives and proceeded to economically raze the landscape under the influence of gangrenous Greens. As is usual, they have driven up unprecedented debt and unemployment with crazy feel-good policies that have failed miserably. They aim to destroy mineral mining, the coal industry and Israel. They want an egalitarian socialised society financed with borrowed funds.

    The parlous economic failings of both South Australia and Tasmania is mirrored almost exactly in Canberra under Rudd/Gillard/Rudd/Greens. So, where am I going with this?

    Okay, so why did Rudd need to pay billions to Nauru and PNG in exchange for internationally advertising their countries as backward shitboxes? Why couldn’t he have said, “Anyone arriving by boat from now on will be confined to one of two Labor/Green States”?

    Now, anyone wanting to build a new life, get a job or start a new business would be devastated at that prospect?
    Surely that would have sent a message to those pesky, enterprising, illegal immigrants? And in the process saved us billions? Or he could wait until September 8!

    If he wins Office then the whole country will become a backward shitbox! Boat problem solved!
    sensible senior
    10th Aug 2013
    8:34am
    i would like to make a point with regards china. we have an opportunity for the farmers to sell a lot of milk to china as apparently they really like our milk its just a case of getting past customs. there could be a lot of money in it for us dont know what would happen to the cheap milk in the supermarkets though. 2nd point. mr. rudd's crap on t.v. re increase on food with tony abbott and the g.s.t. the so called smart mr. new rudd held up a jar of vegetimate which is now owned by overseas saying how much our special product will go up under tony abbott he gave this company the biggest free advertisement he could does dick smith make vegemite anymore.i would like to point out that my coffee in a few years has gone up a couple of dollars also thanks to this government we have no manufacturing anymore, bonds overseas labour, r.m. williams boots, overseas labour and the list goes on. mr rudd said at the nation press speech that he would not change so tell mr mr.rudd WHATS OLD AGAIN IS NEW AGAIN ESPECIALLY RECYCLED OLD MEN.
    Abby
    11th Aug 2013
    9:50am
    Very good daph
    I like that
    WHATS OLD AGAIN IS NEW AGAIN ESPECIALLY RECYCLED OLD MEN.
    wally
    10th Aug 2013
    12:49pm
    I wonder if our old guys can be recycled? Kevin Fraud does a good job of recycling Labor Party bull-crap. His Vegemite stunt looks like he's trying to recycle the Mike Willessee interview with John Hewson regarding the GST tax component of ingredients in a birthday cake. That caused Hewson to drop his bundle and go on to lose the unloseable election. What's next? Will he recycle Cheryl Kernot annd Joan Kerner? Or maybe Paul Keating? Or even "Memphis Malcolm" Fraser?
    particolor
    10th Aug 2013
    7:05pm
    Skooze Me for barging in on this Liberal Party Meeting !!! But can I please have a Chocolate Malted Milk Shake while Milk is a Buck a Litre at Coles !! Before Tony puts the Johnny Never Never GST up to 15% on Food !!!...ENJOY !!
    sensible senior
    11th Aug 2013
    8:42am
    skooze me but is this all you labor supporters can come up with all lies you must be desperate. TONY SAID OVER AND OVER HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE G.S.T. IF ELECTED AND AFTER THREE YEARS HE WOULD PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE BEFORE ANYTHING WAS DONE AND GO TO AN ELECTION ON IT. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
    surfer
    11th Aug 2013
    11:02am
    What would you expect from Krudd and his cronies. Lies lies and more lies. What a disgusting little twerp Krudd is. He must be very desperate. Ask him how and when he is going to pay off the 300 to 400 billion plus interest he has chalked up. Talking of black holes, I don't see the bottom of this one. He is directly responsible for the fires and deaths from his ill conceived pink batts scheme, and for the deaths at sea of the boat people after changing the system John Howard had in place which worked.
    sensible senior
    11th Aug 2013
    3:06pm
    surfer the mind boggles this so called p.m. is going to ask tonight in the debate where he is going to get the money to plug his so called black hole. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THIS P.M. IS GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO FIX HIS 300 BILLION BLACK HOLE PLUS PLUS WHY SHOULD HE NOT PUT HIS COSTINGS OUT . I DO NOT LIKE LYNDAL CURTIS SHE IS DEFINATELY A LABOR SUPPORTER AND I JUST HOPE THIS TURNS OUT TO BE FAIR AND NOT A FREE RIDE FOR MR. RUDD AS HAS BEEN WITH THE A.B.C. HARD QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED ON BOTH SIDES NOT JUST ONE ALSO IRAN HAS SAID THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT IRANIANS BACK INTO THEIR COUNTRY SO WHY SHOULD WE TAKE THEM PUT THEM IN A PLANE AND DROP THEM BACK INTO THEIR OWN COUNTRY. FAIR SHAKE OF THE SAUCE BOTTLE AND GOTTA ZIP NOW SHOWS THE MENTALITITY OF THIS SO CALLED P.M. HE IS ALWAYS GOING TO SCHOOLS AND PLAYING WITH THE CHILDREN ONE HAS TO WONDER CANT HE CUT IT IN THE REAL WORLD.
    surfer
    11th Aug 2013
    3:48pm
    I agree sensible senior. At the moment Krudd seems obsessed with whether Tony Abbott will bring the budget back to surplus in its first year. Why would you want to after the economic dissaster Krudd has left him in. If it came into surplus by 2016, that would be a great effort.Secondly, how could he answer the question when you cannot believe Krudds figures so no one could give an answer to that question. As you say, kissing babies to try to crawl to the mothers and doing high fives with school kids is the top of his agenda. He hates to talk about the 300 to 400 billion we have to pay off. No one asks that question. Don't forget this is blowing out at the rate of 3 billion a week. Only Tony can save Australia. There should not be a debate, as there is nothing on labor side to debate. Just reflect on their record. Only the media is enjoying this circus.
    particolor
    11th Aug 2013
    4:02pm
    Dear Sensible Senior... I'm Neither Labor nor liberal..Nor Green or Ginger Pink !!!..You got very excited there with all that Shouting !! You recon Rudds a Nut ? Abbott kisses Hair !!..
    Ptt ! Ptt !!..And after that Rant there I dont remember ANYONE Handing out Invitations to Anyone To come Here !! So why is it that People Appoint BLAME on anyone for others Stupidity ??.. I think if a People Smuggler told You,You could go to another Country ,Sit on the Couch with a FREE Fridge Full of FREE Beer and dont have to work again ever,get Megga Bucks a Fortnight and Jump the Queue for a Shack..You'de be in a Rowing Boat and Off like Popeye on Steroids !!! ...
    My Post above was Written in Jest, as I felt You needed Cheering up a Tad !!.You take things far to seriously I think and need to relax some before You turn BRIGHT RED !!!,and Surfer has to Call the Fire Brigade ..Now Kev could always Sell the Sydney Harbor Bridge to the..... Bla Blah Blah !!!... PS The Kids in them Schools are the Real World ...BYE...
    sensible senior
    11th Aug 2013
    5:35pm
    particolor seems to me you think our situation is a jest i really dont and if we all took your attitude its alright mate we really would be in BIIGER SHIT THAN WE ARE ALREADY. i agree the kids are the real world but we have to adults to nuture and look after them and guide them in the right direction for that reason we need a real leader not somebody to play with the kids another point rudd put us in this position with the refrugees about time he settled it, i notice just time everything else nothing comes into play until when years later, very convenient
    particolor
    11th Aug 2013
    7:25pm
    Yes OK !! Now back to listening to the Great Debate !!! In this corner we have the Bloke with the Blue Tie ! and in...........
    surfer
    12th Aug 2013
    10:16am
    In the other corner we should have had Juliar Gillard if Krudd had not stabbed her in the back.
    toot2000
    11th Aug 2013
    7:50pm
    Kevin Rudd cheated, he was told they weren't allowed notes, but he kept referring to them. They should have stopped him and taken them away but they didn't, not fair. Tony won by a mile - without notes!
    surfer
    12th Aug 2013
    10:12am
    Totally agree Toot2000. At least it gave Tony Abbott a chance to show Krudd up for the liar he is, as well as a cheat. The scare campaign re increase in the GST has now been put to bed.
    particolor
    11th Aug 2013
    9:09pm
    I must be Liberal then !!! I just looked in Me wallet and aint got no Note Either !!!..
    sensible senior
    11th Aug 2013
    9:58pm
    i like your sense of humour particolor wait until tony abbott becomes p.m. you will have many.
    particolor
    12th Aug 2013
    7:33am
    PROMISERY NOTES.
    Cant wait for the 3 Buck notes !!..
    Now back to watching Get Smart!!.... I think KAOS is winning Chief ??..
    Schmart...
    Young Simmo
    12th Aug 2013
    9:01am
    What a pair of dribblers we have got here, I have just decided I am not going to grow old if SENSIBLE SENIOR and PARTICOLOR are an example of what old means. Yep I will stay a 73 year old pup for ever.
    sensible senior
    12th Aug 2013
    9:21am
    young simmo i have never been called a dribbler before i am more like that song up there casaly. i wont stay a 78 year old pup forever as we all have to be fertilizer at some time however i will stay young, and always look for the silver lining till the end of time. i am sure i can now receive your witty reply. while i am at it what a great debate tony won hands down and he didnt cheat. WHERE IS EGYPTIAN AND GEOMAC ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL I THINK THOSE TWO ARE LABOR STOOGES.
    surfer
    12th Aug 2013
    10:08am
    Hello!! Well after that debate the labor stooges will run a mile. Tony Abbott was fantastic and easily won the debate. The other poor pathetic creature is a sneaky bloody cheat, reading from notes which was against the rules. Ah well what would you expect. Most important thing for OZ as far as he was concerned, was homosexuals and lesbians getting married. Let them go to NZ for that happy occassion, as long as they are not allowed to adopt children. We don't want poor little innocent children polluted in that way and their life at school made miserable. So much for the liar and cheat that Krudd is. Tony Abbott was straight forward and honest and what you saw is what you get. A great bloke that will make a great leader. At least his priority for Australia is normal and important.
    Jurassicgeek
    12th Aug 2013
    12:31pm
    I watched the debate and to my mind Daffy and Elmer are still looking good.
    surfer
    12th Aug 2013
    2:11pm
    Have to get Daffy a hair net
    Young Simmo
    12th Aug 2013
    1:28pm
    I also watched the FAKE DEBATE and was bored to tears, when the next one is on I will go next door and have a game of marbles with my 6 year old neighbour, that will liven up my day.
    Pass the Ductape
    12th Aug 2013
    2:03pm
    What I couldn't figure out is why did the worm seem to automatically go up as soon as K Rudd got to show his face on screen?
    He hardly put two words together and the that dumb worm seemed to shoot to the top. Frankly, all the man has to do was stand there and smile and the bloody worm would have gone into spasms!
    surfer
    12th Aug 2013
    2:10pm
    Was it one of Krudds worms, he looks like he needs a good drenching. I watched sky so lucky there was no worm. The Channel 7 worm was a lot better. It had Tony ahead 70% to 30%. Was your worm an ABC worm??
    Young Simmo
    12th Aug 2013
    3:12pm
    I watched ABC 24 and didn't see a worm once in the entire program. Do you have to do something specia, or pay to see the worm???
    surfer
    12th Aug 2013
    3:33pm
    I can't afford to pay to see the worm, just got my electricity bill. Where are all the free worms???
    Pass the Ductape
    12th Aug 2013
    4:00pm
    No Simmo - the worm wasn't on, on all channels. I think nine had it, and maybe seven (I don't watch Seven - and that's by choice) but the ABC, no....
    Young Simmo
    12th Aug 2013
    5:10pm
    OK Ductape, I was in the wrong paddock at the wrong time, after what I did see, I would have been better off out raking the lawn. At least I would have got the same amount of rubbish.
    particolor
    12th Aug 2013
    7:02pm
    Ductape is on SBS 1 Tonight at 7.30pm on Myth Busters ..Without the Worm I suspect ?..
    ENJOY....
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Aug 2013
    7:04am
    Hey.... you were so right particolor. There I was, all wrapped up in myself!

    But to be serious for just a moment.. I think it's amazing what those two blokes come up with at times. I saw another episode a while back where they used nothing but duct-tape to supposedly survive the issues presented to them on a 'deserted' island - even to the point of making a boat from the stuff and sailing it out to sea. If I ever get stranded in similar circumstances, I hope I do so with a pallet load of duct-tape following me onto the beach. Unfortunately I generally don't seem to have that kind of luck and any duct-tape I am likely to find, would be made in China and therefore - like everything else they try to flog us - not worth the trouble to unpack.
    Jurassicgeek
    13th Aug 2013
    2:22pm
    I dunno,Ductape..last night they abseiled down the side of the grand canyon 150 ft built a cupla rafts and sailed down through supposedly grade 5 rapids to civilization all with bunch of ductape and bubble wrap...now only if our pollies could be so innovative???
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Aug 2013
    2:41pm
    Yes they did some pretty weird stuff with it alright! I did think they might have plaited those strands of tape instead of leaving them lose, like they did. That might have added a bit more strength to the rope and given them a little more confidence. But I did have real concerns that the tape might have stretched as duct tape tends to do to quite a degree. I wouldn't liked to have been dangling on it for too long..... just in case.
    particolor
    13th Aug 2013
    9:27am
    Stick around Ductape,and watch the Pollies (Squak) Adhere to their Promises .I'll be Glued to the Screen watching the Sticky Fingered ,Tax Grabbers Worm their way through it till Septembers election ,when Australian voters will write all sorts of Witty things on their Ballot Papers instead of Voting on them !!!!!.. I think I'll Sketch Son of Kev on mine with a a Cigar in his Gob ! + Tax Grab....And for the Pollies that think Australians are Mathematically Brain Deleted !! That's an EXTRA 4.5 Billion,a year @ $2 for 20 Ciggys...
    Puff The Magic Dragon ..... <<< Son of Kev on the Telly this morning !!..BYE !!!
    Young Simmo
    13th Aug 2013
    9:42am
    particolor, if you really want a giggle on election day, take a little bit of Vegemite on a little bit of paper and put a smear of Vegemite across the middle of the Voting sheet with your finger.
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Aug 2013
    2:30pm
    Oh you two! How naughty of you both. Young Simmo - I'm surprised at you. Vegemite - really? Voting is a serious matter don't you know?
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Aug 2013
    2:46pm
    Upon reflection, I suppose if we can't find something about our pollies to laugh at, we would only cry. God knows they've given us enough spilt milk...

    Pass the vegemite Simmo!!!
    particolor
    13th Aug 2013
    11:01am
    No the Dirty Dogs will Finger Print it ! Track Me down, and send Me to Manus Island !!for a Couple of Years ?...HMMM ??? Mabybe not so Bad though, FREE Ciggys..No Rent ,or Power Bill ..Bonus Mobile Phone and Chef Prepared Meals !! What more could a lowly Surf like Me want ..Thanks for the Tip !!!...BYE !!.....
    PS Read Todays Grouchy Newsletter ...He He He !!!
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    12:46pm
    YOUNG SIMMO, HAVE LEFT A NOTE ON ALL 3 DEBATES,HA HA, GET MY NEW ADDRESS FROM DREW OR WAIT FOR SNAIL MAIL, CHEERS,
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    12:46pm
    YOUNG SIMMO, HAVE LEFT A NOTE ON ALL 3 DEBATES,HA HA, GET MY NEW ADDRESS FROM DREW OR WAIT FOR SNAIL MAIL, CHEERS,
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    12:46pm
    YOUNG SIMMO, HAVE LEFT A NOTE ON ALL 3 DEBATES,HA HA, GET MY NEW ADDRESS FROM DREW OR WAIT FOR SNAIL MAIL, CHEERS,
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    12:46pm
    YOUNG SIMMO, HAVE LEFT A NOTE ON ALL 3 DEBATES,HA HA, GET MY NEW ADDRESS FROM DREW OR WAIT FOR SNAIL MAIL, CHEERS,
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    12:46pm
    YOUNG SIMMO, HAVE LEFT A NOTE ON ALL 3 DEBATES,HA HA, GET MY NEW ADDRESS FROM DREW OR WAIT FOR SNAIL MAIL, CHEERS,
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    12:46pm
    YOUNG SIMMO, HAVE LEFT A NOTE ON ALL 3 DEBATES,HA HA, GET MY NEW ADDRESS FROM DREW OR WAIT FOR SNAIL MAIL, CHEERS,
    Young Simmo
    15th Aug 2013
    1:20pm
    Hi cats, I heard you the first time, He, He, He. If it is in Snail Mail I will wait, that will I can save my brain so I can keep stirring young mussitate. Some people might think I am being a bit hard seeing he is only a humble Labor supporter.
    particolor
    15th Aug 2013
    7:38pm
    ULLO! ULLO !!..I am only going to say zis Once !!.....
    catsahoy
    15th Aug 2013
    9:42pm
    sorry folks, i dont know what i do wrong that i repeat, have been told not to press to hard on comment. i assure you i barley touch it, so dont know what im doing wrong. ha ha simmo, have had to get in touch with everyone who sent e.mails to me as i lost everything. but new ,puter and new email so hope my worries are gone, cheers,please dont be to hard on mussitate, i have voted labour in the past to, but im really undecided this time. neither have said anything thats relevant to me and mine. have to ponder some more.
    surfer
    18th Aug 2013
    6:38am
    Please catsahoy, You would make me eternally grateful if you would be kind enough to vote for Tony. Even if just a protest vote against the little fellow with the wig from Queensland. He really has done a lot of damage to this great country and we cannot keep the arrogant little twerp in office any longer. Even half his mates have deserted him.
    particolor
    15th Aug 2013
    11:22pm
    I dont think it Matters Much Mate ?
    I think You will get more of the same off either ?..
    When You make up Your mind !
    Let us all know !
    and well vote for the other one !!!!
    In case You make a Mistake !!
    catsahoy
    17th Aug 2013
    8:10pm
    particolor, there is nothing clever in trying to belittle someone, we cant all be as smart as you,
    particolor
    17th Aug 2013
    9:46pm
    Cats..I'm not all that Smart really !! It's just that I don't believe a Bloody word any Politician says, of any Persuasion any more!!.. I definitely Wouldn't vote ever again for anyone in a Major Party,they have no agendas for You or anybody else Except Numero Uno..Me Me Me !!!..
    Look at Me, Look at Me !! (Kath and Kim)..
    PS..And no Belittlement ever Meant to anyone on this Site.. Thanks !!..BYE !!
    catsahoy
    19th Aug 2013
    3:13pm
    thanks particolour, like you i dont believe anything they say, thats why i am in so much of a quandry, i have no faith in either but what is the alternative, todays paper are saying BOB KATER is running, PLEASE, i am not very smart, but there goes a madman if ever i saw one.i live in a labour suburb, but kevtn rudd does nothing for me, and there is something about tony abbott that just doesnt gel, i take voteing as a privilage and dont want to waste the vote, but speaking to others im not the only one who feels like this, i have never known an election with so much negativity attached , all ok particolor,
    catsahoy
    19th Aug 2013
    3:13pm
    thanks particolour, like you i dont believe anything they say, thats why i am in so much of a quandry, i have no faith in either but what is the alternative, todays paper are saying BOB KATER is running, PLEASE, i am not very smart, but there goes a madman if ever i saw one.i live in a labour suburb, but kevtn rudd does nothing for me, and there is something about tony abbott that just doesnt gel, i take voteing as a privilage and dont want to waste the vote, but speaking to others im not the only one who feels like this, i have never known an election with so much negativity attached , all ok particolor,


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