28th Sep 2016
What’s the fastest growing religion in Australia?

According to information from the Pew Research Centre, Islam is the fast growing religion in the world – but not in Australia.

Pew Research data found that by 2050, 29.7 per cent of the global population will be comprised of Muslims. Currently, that figure is 23.5 per cent.

“By 2050, Muslims will be nearly as numerous as Christians, who are projected to remain the world’s largest religious group at 31.4 per cent of the global population,” the report said.

According to the report, this high growth rate is due to the fact that for the largest proportion of Muslims, their childbearing years are still ahead of them.

“Globally, Muslims have the highest fertility rate, an average of 3.1 children per woman – well above replacement level (2.1), the minimum typically needed to maintain a stable population,” the report said.

Turning to Australian shores, the 2011 Census revealed that 2.2 percent of Australians (just 476,300 people) identified as Muslim. While the number of Muslims migrating to Australia remains small, the general perception of Australia’s Muslim population reflects another story. Last year, a poll on perceptions by research group Ipsos Mori found that on average, poll respondents believed that around 18 per cent of Australians were Muslim – considerably more than the actual 2.2 to 2.4 per cent. Furthermore, Islam is not showing signs of a rapid growth in Australia any time soon.

So, if Islam isn’t the fastest growing religion in Australia, what is? Hinduism is currently the fourth-largest religious group in the world and as the 2011 Census shows, the fastest growing religious group in Australia.

This is down to the four source countries comprising most of Australia’s new intake: India, China, UK and New Zealand.  

According to Pew Research, Hinduism is projected to rise by 34 per cent – from a little over 1 billion to nearly 1.4 billion. This is keeping pace with overall population growth.

Interestingly, the data also found that by 2050, Christianity will have lost 60 million people to agnosticism and atheism.

Read more at www.sbs.com.au
Read more at www.abs.gov.au

Were these findings surprising to you? Why not read the Pew Research report titled The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050?

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    Rod63
    28th Sep 2016
    10:46am
    "We are being swamped by muslims", eh?
    PlanB
    28th Sep 2016
    11:40am
    Muslims will outbreed many parts of the world, so YES we will be swamped
    Rod63
    28th Sep 2016
    12:21pm
    When she said it,she meant "we - Australians" and it is patently wrong.
    Tom Tank
    28th Sep 2016
    1:40pm
    They used to say that the Catholics will outbreed the world and swamp the rest of us. Then that changed to the Asians and of course now it has changed to the Muslims.
    It is such a pity that some people simply must have some-else to project hate onto.
    Not Amused
    28th Sep 2016
    1:51pm
    Pauline said we are "in danger" of being swamped by muslims and I agree with that statement. They breed like rabbits and that is how Europe has reached the stage where host countries have to accommodate beliefs and conduct completely alien to their way of life. They are getting bold too -Keyser Trad on national television declaring he wants a second wife. What are they are doing in this country if they are entertaining the hope of what is bigamy under Australian law. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809081/Muslim-leader-wants-marry-second-wife-Shariah-law-fine-it.html
    Patriot
    28th Sep 2016
    1:58pm
    As a person with NO designated religion, I state the following:

    1 Catholics (or other religions) - at least openly - do not suggest we convert Australia's "System of Law"
    2 Muslims are intent to introduce Sharia Law anywhere they settle
    3 Some muslim school children refused to (in Victoria) respect the Australian Anthem and were allowed/supported to do so unpunished
    4 Muslims honour their religion prior to the country they live in

    I am NOT consider myself a "racist", however, when migrating to another country, I believe that one MUST accept the governing laws of that country and NOT attempt to change them!!!
    As a migrant myself, I understand that such may not always be easy. However, integration is A MUST!!!!

    IF migrants do not like the Laws/Conditions in Australia they should consider to return to "Where they come from".
    If they elect to remain in Australia whilst DEMANDING change whilst NOT honouring our traditions, we should return them from where they came from and ensure they NEVER return.
    After all, They will feel much more at home in their "Old Country".
    Rae
    28th Sep 2016
    2:42pm
    Unfortunately their Old Country is a basket case due to antiquated beliefs that allow no adaption and destruction of the environment.

    This is the big difference that is never discussed.

    I watched a family of muslims destroy the local rock platform. It will never recover in my or my grandkids's lifetime. They took everything from it and it took just two hours to kill it dead.

    I'm sure they thought it was okay.

    The Middle East is dead in many places as well. The last tree cut down decades ago.

    Global warming may be about to exterminate our species but I do wish some conservation could be taught to new immigrants.

    Especially if we are to continue bringing in hundreds of thousands more every single year.

    Unfortunately the Angelic worship religions that depend entirely on some fabulous existence after death just are not as good at caring for the Earth as the Pagan religions.

    If the Buddists have it right and we all come back then it won't be much fun will it.
    Patriot
    29th Sep 2016
    7:49am
    Rae,

    Agree but "STIFF CHEDDAR".
    We MUST prevent our's NOT to becoma a similar "Basket Case".

    Unfortunately, our "GREEDY Psychopathic Meglomaniacs in Charge" are not any better and they also will sell the last tree for timber is it brings just 5 cents.
    Rae
    29th Sep 2016
    9:00am
    I actually believe we are all doomed Patriot.

    The world has less than 8% tree cover left.
    And huge swathes of sea grasses dying turning the ocean floor to desert.

    While we worry about smoking and lung damage we blithely destroy the Earth's lungs without any concern.

    If we had started planting trees back in the 1960s and kept at it we might have saved oxygen breathing life but I doubt it possible now.
    ex PS
    29th Sep 2016
    10:34am
    Patriot, Christians do not have to insist on the law being changed to reflect their religion, it is already based very closely on the ten commandments. If we actually look at the Muslim faith we find that most of their beliefs are similar to Christianity so I do not see a problem there.
    The few fanatics who are calling for Sharia Law can do so as far as I am concerned as without a majority of representation in our political system it will not happen. And if they do get majority representation in the political system they deserve to have their cause supported.
    There is no case to be made that Democracy should be our way of life, unless we get a result we don't like.
    I am a migrant myself and agree with most of what you say, but as far as laws go some law are not relevant to the age and some are just stupid and need to be changed.
    Not so long ago you could be gaoled for homosexuality, the law was changed, was that a bad outcome? It was never a law, but in the early stages of settlement it was not possible for a Catholic to advance in the Public Service or Police Force, it was a social moire that was changed over time because it was an outdated concept, we have seen many kinds of immigrants come to this country and we have changed for the better each time, it is up to us to accept the best and reject the bad.
    buby
    10th Oct 2016
    6:09pm
    i think its not just about planting trees, even tho its a must, but the explosion of life, and the lack of care they show to earth!
    It seems many worry more about giving birth to more , and not worry about how they will be fed. If they get help from the government they do not care one iota. I mean we could all live well on our great planet, but we must show her respect. but if it becomes to toxic to breathe, whom to we blame. Many cultures don't care.
    And those calling for Sharia Law should be horse whipped.
    YOU know that just means they wanna breed faster, to help dominate the world!!
    And who cares if there is homosexuality about, as long as children are not abused, and that happens in most cultures it seems!!
    I mean homosexuality has been about for many donkeys years, the same as child abuse, plus the abuse of women, its all been going on for centuries and certuries?? So when will it all stop!!! We have many tough decisions to make even if we all want to keep breathing on this planet i reckon, but many just have their own little agenda?
    PlanB
    28th Sep 2016
    11:39am
    I am Agnostic, I believe there is something in charge as Nature is far too perfect, even Man has copied off Nature in many "ïnventions"
    There are also many things in the BIBLE that have come true, but may things that can not be taken literally --- I believe in living life with a moral value and doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.

    I do not attend any church, although I have, mostly to have some questions answered
    -- I might add, unsuccessfully
    Basinboy
    28th Sep 2016
    11:41am
    Who's going to break it to Pauline?
    Rosret
    28th Sep 2016
    11:54am
    The Catholics had exactly the same idea as the Muslims. Marry young and have lots of babies and you will be the majority in no time. It worked - they are. However there is a greater majority. The educated. Religion is on the decline in our society because the more we are presented with the facts and reason the more illogical the doctrines become. They may have been useful in the middle east 2000 years ago but not now. Morality and human kindness is triumphant no matter which religious flag one flies.
    musicveg
    28th Sep 2016
    1:11pm
    From what I have read, religion was introduced to control the people, to prevent cruelty, unkindness and greed, but it has not worked very well because the religious laws have been bent and twisted. I too wish everyone would just have morality and human kindness as well as respect for nature.
    Inatrance
    28th Sep 2016
    11:55am
    well anyway my religion is that I am a "Mathematics Atheist'.
    stuff all the figures that keep on getting bantered around , just give me another coffee.
    As long as all the other buggers stay out of my yard and let me do what I want, without any demand on conversion...rats sound like more maths...have a good day
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    2:28pm
    Mathematics is great. It's statistics like these that are meaningless.
    mike
    28th Sep 2016
    12:13pm
    To Rosret. We are replacing Christian values with moral values, but as we are a multicultural society, which culture should determine our moral values. Should we adopt the moral values of societies that encourage honour female killings, and female castration, and deny females the rights of education and even the right to drive a car or have a social life. Also should men be allowed to have 4 abused wives in Australia. Morality without Christian fundamentals are a joke. Also any society that supresses one half of its population is losing half of its potential. But unfortunately that is the way the world is going, and people like Rosret are helping it
    musicveg
    28th Sep 2016
    1:13pm
    Those moral values who honour female killings etc are not part of any religion, it is more tradition. Which society are you specifically talking about?
    Basinboy
    28th Sep 2016
    1:40pm
    "which culture should determine our moral values..."
    Surely the answer is obvious, the dominant culture will set the moral standards and in Australia that is the Anglo Celtic (Australian) culture. Why on earth would we adopt honour killings, female castration etc. they are alien to the Australian culture.
    "Morality without Christian fundamentals are a joke..." Your personal opinion and that's fine. The many good, moral people without religion, or indeed any religion other than a Christian brand, would probably disagree with your opinion.
    Rosret
    28th Sep 2016
    1:41pm
    Persecution is not moral. Its dominance. I deliberately didn't mention culture or belief because in a multicultural society its necessary for government to be secular and enforce equality and human kindness without denying anyone their historical pride.
    Christmas day was the concluding day of the pagan winter festival called the "Saturnalia". Religions evolve.
    Men and women should not be forbidden from eating certain foods on religious grounds or denied food for certain periods of time, be forced to marry unwillingly or before the age of consent, have religious operations to make them "less female" or have unnecessary circumcisions, wear impractical and forbidding clothing etc etc.
    Religious doctrines - all of them - have perverse beliefs and it is important to educate the population so that this sort of behaviour stops.
    Dave V
    28th Sep 2016
    6:03pm
    Good points Mike. Sadly, the world seems to be drifting away from the belief that there are any absolute truths, and therefore "morality" increasingly seems to be what seems best at one time, and can change with time. I think this is ultimately going to lead us into dangerous places. Whose morality is right? If you believe in the theory of evolution then there is no absolute reason to say that Hitler's version of morality was wrong - even though all of us are horrified by it. If he'd won then he would have been right - from an evolutionary point of view.
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    6:10pm
    Morality has nothing to do with evolution.
    KSS
    28th Sep 2016
    12:34pm
    But the Hindus are not proselytizing against the infidels who have opened their doors and society to them; killing Australians in the streets; calling Western women 'uncovered meat'; exhorting young men and women to become terrorists; praising acts of barbaric atrocity round the world; demanding special treatment, laws, schools, food based not on need but their religious beliefs; blaming their host nation for their plight; engaging in gun wars against historic feudal clans in Western Sydney suburbs; marrying off girls as young as nine to much older men or sanctioning and aiding and abetting female genital mutilation and all whilst claiming their religion is one of peace and gender equality.

    let's have more Hindus I say.
    musicveg
    28th Sep 2016
    1:15pm
    Again this is not religion it is tradition. Yes Hindus are are much more peaceful religion and don't even eat beef, cows are sacred. As a vegan I love that.
    The Bronze Anzac
    28th Sep 2016
    12:53pm
    What this Pew Research did not mention was the fact that Muslims breed like rabbits, because (1) they are not allowed to practice contraception, (2) men can marry a girl from 9 years of age, & (3) that men can have up to 4 wives. That is why Islam is by far the fastest growing group of people in the world. In Australia, the proportion, of course, is much smaller, but the number of Muslim births is calculated to be much higher, due to our over generous Welfare System.
    musicveg
    28th Sep 2016
    1:19pm
    Where do you get your facts from? This is Islamaphobia, many other people breed like rabbits too, think about why there are so many single mums trying to bring up children because men go from one girl to the other and vice versa. I don't believe you should blame the over generous Welfare system because it is not, what is generous is how much politicians get when they leave parliament or how many billions go into subzidising big business.
    The Bronze Anzac
    28th Sep 2016
    1:30pm
    "musicveg" There is no such thing as ISLAMOPHOBIA. The word was invented by the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD in order to shut down debate & stifle legitimate criticism of Islam.
    Rod63
    28th Sep 2016
    1:37pm
    "The word was invented by the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD " - what rot.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

    Etymology and definitions[edit]
    The word Islamophobia is a neologism[20] formed from Islam and -phobia, a suffix used in English to form "nouns with the sense ‘fear of ——’, ‘aversion to ——’."[21] The compound form Islamo- contains the thematic vowel -o-, and is found in earlier coinages such as Islamo-Christian from the 19th century.

    According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word means "Intense dislike or fear of Islam, esp. as a political force; hostility or prejudice towards Muslims" and is attested in English as early as 1923.
    Tom Tank
    28th Sep 2016
    1:44pm
    So sad to read such tripe stated as facts from The Bronxe Anzac.
    Basinboy
    28th Sep 2016
    1:45pm
    If you don't like Islamophobia. what word would you use to describe your rather specific phobia?
    Rosret
    28th Sep 2016
    1:52pm
    Taking away all the emotive words - it is illegal in this country to marry under a certain age and it must be enforced. Not allowing contraceptive and producing lots of children is exactly the the same as what the Catholic church demanded last century and I don't know if the Pope has changed that position. The congregation have just made their own educated decision on that one.
    I often wonder if we shouldn't have a limit to the number of children per mother that receive government assistance. After all the world IS over populated and the mass immigration demand is not just because of war but rather exploding populations and a shortage of resources.
    Not Amused
    28th Sep 2016
    2:00pm
    Islamophobia as a word that is meant to humiliate is quickly getting the flick by the less vocal yet quietly powerful majority in western countries because we've had enough of career politicians telling us what to think and who to like. "Diversity" is another turn-off as is "multi-culturalism". There's a new breed of "politicians" being elected across the western world and it's my bet major political parties are going to be struggling to remain relevant for what they have done to our societies. Farage, Marine LePen, Trump, Hanson - these people are winning because times have changed and people no longer trust or vote for traditional parties that have ignored their pleas on immigration for decades, and the defining down of law and order.
    Rae
    28th Sep 2016
    2:53pm
    Not just politics either Not Amused. I bumped a stranger today in the fruit and veg shop having quite a rave about the wowsers dumping on certain foods et you shouldn't eat.

    I do believe we are over being told what to do by a bunch of interfering busybodies, with over inflated egos ,who believe their values and world views are the only correct ones.

    Bring it on is all I can say. It is well over due.

    We have "I'm- the-only- one -right- a -phobia.
    Not Amused
    28th Sep 2016
    3:03pm
    Rae, yes I know what you mean. Too many self-righteous peddlers of their own beliefs. If we don't believe in or want to support what they tout we are "deniers", not entitled to our own opinion and belittled if we dare to have an opinion. We have been hounded into keeping our thoughts to ourselves or be branded a racist, bigot, homophobic or other such category. It's going on in our schools too where kids are being over-influenced this way or that while they are in their formative years. However I think the worm is turning. We are sick of being brow-beaten and are at last growing backbones. If not we are on the brink of losing everything our ancestors gave their lives for. What a shameful thing to allow.
    PlanB
    28th Sep 2016
    3:11pm
    I am with you Bronze, if they can have 4 or 5 wives -- then that can mean 4 or five kids in ONE year AND they marry very young like you say -- and anyone that can do those figures is crazy, of course they will breed us all out -- yes the Catholic encourage heaps of kids but they only have 1 wife.

    Anyway the planet is way over populated now so the breeding should stop -- it will mean a much different way of life but it is wrecking the planet
    ex PS
    3rd Oct 2016
    6:09pm
    Plan B, you know the very real penalty for having more than one wife?
    You end up with more than one mother in law.
    ranga
    28th Sep 2016
    1:21pm
    Who fudged the figures to make it seem like there is no increase (for a start) ... if, as you say breeding at 3.1 per female (globally) ... must surely account for increase in that specfic population.
    Lookfar
    28th Sep 2016
    1:51pm
    Very interesting to hear that Hinduism is the fastest growing religion in Australia, - information which should calm down the hysterical anti-muslim faction, - not that I agree with the subjugation of 50% of the population, whether it was in ancient mohammedan teachings or just a modern perversion, or practiced by male chauvinists of any stripe, but it is good to get information that puts things into context on contentious issues.
    I would like to see more Buddhists about the place, eg. Thais, - their cooking is superb.
    Rosret
    28th Sep 2016
    1:58pm
    People don't worry about Hinduism because it will not impact on any non Hindu. The Muslim population is making a very loud statement of their intent to dominate and anyone who has a young daughter or grand daughter is indeed fearful that their oppression will be enforced on our children. We struggled so hard last century for equality just to lose it all if we don't protect our rights.

    28th Sep 2016
    2:19pm
    In Australia? Not YET, but if they are allowed to keep entering this country they will out number Christians as they out-breed even rabbits. CONSERVATIVELY speaking 1 in every 4 Muslims is a radical and these are the ones who keep the other Muslims oppressed and from informing on them. If this vile minority is allowed to increase in this country they will take over by force, stealth, extortion, brutality, cruelty, and undermining of the government, legal, and judicial authorities and Australia will end up being like the other destroyed, ravenged, and ruined countries they have left to come here and do the same. Don't for one moment think this will NOT happen or you are sorely kidding yourself, sticking your head in the sand and not hearing nor seeing what these beings have done elsewhere!
    Mez
    30th Sep 2016
    10:02am
    Yes.....every time we go to the supermarket we are paying out money towards the building of mosques and Islamic colleges here in Australia as well as in Malaysia from Halal Certification of grocery products.
    In Malaysia and Indonesia there are known terrorist training camps where no doubt our money also funds!
    Not all products have the Halal symbol on them but if you google search you will find that MOST of the dairy foods, meats and meat products, breads and chocolates are Halal Certified.
    I am SO against this corced form of buying foods to benefit another religion that I am not part of! Jews don't do it!
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    10:20am
    Mez - must you get all your facts from ACA and Bolt?

    The manufacturers want their products to be Halal certified as it increases their potential market share. It's as simple as that.

    I would need to see very good proof to believe it is funding terrorist training.

    And Fast Eddie, your view is pure paranoia. You need to check your beliefs with your Muslim friends.
    PIXAPD
    28th Sep 2016
    2:22pm
    As to Muslims and their Quran, the truth is this, Islam denies the faith of the Christians, the Quran out rightly denies the gospel and it is about time the Church began to get a backbone and tell members of this and stop all this interfaith rubbish, there is no concord between the Son of God and Islam; why then should I stand by and say nothing?

    ISLAM IS A 'NON PROPHET' ORGANISATION www.richard-2782.net/islam.htm
    PIXAPD
    28th Sep 2016
    2:23pm
    In the END Islam loses
    KSS
    28th Sep 2016
    2:54pm
    In the end EVERYONE loses!
    Mez
    30th Sep 2016
    10:06am
    You had better stop buying Halal Certified foods then!
    I think you will find that extremely difficult as most of the staples are Halal in our major supermarkets!
    Talk about stealth!
    Many foods do not have the halal symbol either!

    28th Sep 2016
    2:31pm
    "Fastest growing" is a meaningless statistic.

    I have just invented a new religion. If I convince one other person to take up my religion, that is a growth rate of 100% per day, or 36,500% per annum.

    I therefore claim to have the fastest growing religion in the whole world.
    Lookfar
    28th Sep 2016
    3:28pm
    In all the discussions of Muslims and their ways, it is often forgotten that there are three major world religions based on the Old testament, - Judaism, Mohadamism, and Right Wing Christianity, a similiar group to the one in 4 mentioned by Fast Eddie above, but who, under a false flag of Christianity, base themselves fundamentally on the Old testament, along with all the Smiting Root and Branch, (genocide) and all that ancient Jehovah stuff, the which Christianity was intended to replace but somehow has never rigorously cleansed itself of, - I guess partly because of the forgive 7 times 7 injunction etc, but also because it evolved out of those earlier groups and obviously the old timers hung in there with their bloodthirsty ways.
    There is very little in the old testament about compassion, love, turning the other cheek, etc. and it is all too easy to get sucked in to Muslim hate discussions without realising you have become part of that ancient conflict on which is the right way, - reminiscient of the Communist movement in the middle of last century where more energy was spent by the Stalinists killing the Trotskyites or vice versa than reforming capitalism.
    Whatever, those folk are going nowhere, the time for all that is over, we now need to lovingly take control of our modern world where we each have responsibility for the whole.
    KSS
    28th Sep 2016
    6:03pm
    Umm Christianty refers to followers of Christ i.e. Jesus. There was no Christianity in the Old Testament much less a Right Wing brand of it.
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    6:08pm
    I love it when some self-proclaimed Christians declare that other self-proclaimed Christians aren't really Christians.
    Boomah52
    28th Sep 2016
    3:16pm
    So you can have a neighbour and never see the female members. You cant invite them over for a swim, bbq or party because they will most likely be offended. Read some novels like Betrayed by Ali Latifa - in the book she is kept prisoner in Kurdistan by her father after he and she lived a normal life in Australia for twenty years. They will take over a city - eg Belgium with 6 per cent and capital Brussels at 25 per cent. London has 40 per cent of its Muslim population which is 12.4 per cent. Sorry, but the women are covered baby factories with ample welfare at their fingertips. Anyone with a brain knows what the future will be.
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    3:40pm
    My brain can do Maths. I have serious doubts about yours.
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    2:45pm
    ha ha - great comment barak. i agree.
    cdbstock
    28th Sep 2016
    5:19pm
    Census taken in 2011 - article bases Muslim population as at this year using 2011 census data - not a very good analysis!
    motaleon
    28th Sep 2016
    5:22pm
    Those who see no harm in Islam have their heads buried in the sand. Mahomet himself expanded his cult by use of the sword!! What do you think IS is all about???? Good old politically correct Aussies will see themselves undone by their benevolence.
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    5:47pm
    My head isn't buried in the sand. I see harm in ALL religion.
    motaleon
    28th Sep 2016
    6:19pm
    Granted, but top of the list by a country mile is Islam
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    6:25pm
    Such comparisons are pointless.
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    10:32am
    Only an idiot would compare Islam with other "religions."
    Ozbanislam
    28th Sep 2016
    8:14pm
    Oh Bollocks,this is just a scam leftist media and Islam use to convince the Host that it's not being eaten out from within.No matter what the niave would have you believe by 2030 Germany will be an Islamic nation.By then our population of muslims will be well over 20% and we'll have No Go Sharia Zones in Western Sydney,Woodville South Aust,Brisbane etc. It's true Australian Muslims were Highly represented in ISIS.They went to Syria.How many are still here and attempting to come home? Cowardly pedophile dogs
    Anonymous
    28th Sep 2016
    9:58pm
    ROTFLMAO
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    10:28am
    There was a time when 96% of Australians were identifying as C of E. These days its rare that a young person knows what that means.
    Anonymous
    29th Sep 2016
    10:58am
    When was that time?
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    1:56pm
    I'm talking about those who had a religion.
    Anonymous
    29th Sep 2016
    2:33pm
    That doesn't answer my question.

    I think you are wrong.
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    3:14pm
    Hey hold up there! I know you think you're smart but I am man enough to admit when you're wrong. Which I may add is quite often.
    Basinboy
    29th Sep 2016
    3:39pm
    I think this may be an occasion when you have to man up Frank, I cannot believe there was ever a time in our history when 96% identified as C of E. There has always been a fair sized Catholic population, not to mention other protestant brands and Jewish.
    Of course if you can say that the numbers from the 1845 census state 96% blah blah. I will man up with the apology.
    Anonymous
    29th Sep 2016
    4:30pm
    Yep. Extreme claim from Frank. No evidence. Clearly wrong. Bad look.
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    5:02pm
    Yes there weren't too many Catholics shipped to the Colony in the early days. However, if you stated that since colonisation Australia's fastest growing religion has been Catholicism, then you would be pretty much on the mark.
    Thank you Basinboys and thank you Baraks!
    Game Set Match!!!
    Anonymous
    29th Sep 2016
    5:06pm
    Still no evidence.

    Did you allow for Aboriginal beliefs in your calculations?
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    6:05pm
    Are Aboriginal beliefs a religion?
    Anonymous
    29th Sep 2016
    6:08pm
    So, no evidence, and you didn't even think about the Aboriginal people. Not looking good.

    How about "Sorry, it was a silly claim"?
    Adrianus
    29th Sep 2016
    6:13pm
    So you don't know heh?
    Anonymous
    29th Sep 2016
    6:15pm
    It's not the issue. Your dodgy claim is the issue.

    Just admit it was pulled out the sky without thought.
    Adrianus
    30th Sep 2016
    5:05pm
    The first catholic priest did not arrive in Australia until 1800. Where were the convicts shipped from?
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    5:29pm
    Still no evidence for your claim, eh?
    Adrianus
    30th Sep 2016
    5:57pm
    Why don't you stop being so childish and produce some evidence of your clam?
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    5:58pm
    I made no claim.
    Lookfar
    29th Sep 2016
    11:08am
    KSS, Thanks for telling me that there was no Christ in the Old testament, you have obviously not understood what I was describing as a right wing christian, to be clear, it is a person or group advertising itself as Christian but which in fact is drawing on Old testament values and arguments.
    One easy way to tell is if someone from one of those sects hands you a tract, if wherever they have the word Jesus, or Christ, you change that word to Jehovah, and the tract still means the same, (common sense needed at that point) you have a good indication that they are an Old testament group, not Christian.
    PIXAPD
    29th Sep 2016
    4:32pm
    CURTIN KNEW THIS ALSO

    Thus did a former prime Minister declare regarding the White Australia policy>>>>>'During the Second World War, Prime Minister John Curtin reinforced the policy, saying;

    "This country shall remain forever the home of the descendants of those people who came here in peace in order to establish in the South Seas an outpost of the British race."

    Multiculturalism sure wrecked that up.

    NONE OF THIS TROUBLE IN THE 50's....Those who betrayed Australia with multiculturalism are traitors and remain so as far as I am concerned, their heritage to this nation is now become problems on so many levels, and division among people, and I do not care who does not like me for saying this, for I am not here to win any popularity contest, it is however the truth.
    Rod63
    29th Sep 2016
    4:36pm
    No it's not. The fifties had tremendous migration and not from " the descendants of those people who came here in peace in order to establish in the South Seas an outpost of the British race."

    Multiculturalism has bought much richness to our country.
    Mez
    30th Sep 2016
    9:46am
    At least Hinduism is a much more peaceful religion than Christianity or Islam.
    Namaste!
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    10:22am
    War and terrorism are irrational. So, by definition, is religion.

    See the link?
    ex PS
    30th Sep 2016
    3:51pm
    I see the link but would like to have taken into consideration that religious belief is not the same as spiritual belief.
    Religion is man/woman made whereas spiritual belief is in the mind of man/women.
    As in I believe in a supreme being, but I don't believe that any other being can tell me how to honor that being or what that being has in mind for my existence.
    Lookfar
    30th Sep 2016
    2:18pm
    Barak, I would define Materialism as a religion, - fixed dogma, no tolerance for disbelievers, can you get more specific?
    EG, the Russian philosopher, Ouspensky, a follower to a degree of Gurdjieff, (I am of neither) said, Every separate human life is a moment of the life of some GREAT BEING,which lives in US. - is that religion?
    Rather than just deny or obfuscate with alphapet soup, can you please get more specific as your attitude closes discussion
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    2:25pm
    Saying "I see harm in ALL religion" is hardly obfuscation.
    Lookfar
    30th Sep 2016
    2:53pm
    Barak, being vague is not being intelligent, and ROTFLMAO is word salad, perhaps understandable by some small egoistic sub group, but to everyone else, obfuscationary.
    Not good enough!
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    2:58pm
    The word "ALL" is not vague.

    Anyone who chooses can look up what ROTFLMAO means, and I meant what I said.
    Lookfar
    30th Sep 2016
    3:09pm
    Barak, either you have the courtesy to spell whatever alphabet soup your sect worships, or we will not listen to you, as you can not define religion, so your words about it are meaningless, just aggressive babble, piled on top of thoughtless ignorance.
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    3:13pm
    As a definition of religion, I'm happy with "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods".
    Lookfar
    30th Sep 2016
    3:33pm
    Hi Barak, I respect your answer.
    Chees,
    Geoff.
    Adrianus
    30th Sep 2016
    5:16pm
    Amelia, you have used the statistics from the 2011 Census but not mentioned that a massive 9.4% of people refused to answer the religious question. With this in mind I hardly think it justifies the statement ...." the 2011 Census revealed that 2.2 percent of Australians (just 476,300 people) identified as Muslim." It is mathematically possible for the "(just 476,300 people)" to be significantly higher.
    Anonymous
    30th Sep 2016
    5:32pm
    Congratulations on using the misleading, Murdoch journalistic word "refused" for people's action of choosing to not answer an optional question.
    Adrianus
    3rd Oct 2016
    10:23am
    I did not know Rupert Murdoch had invented the word "REFUSED." Gosh, you can learn something everyday?
    Perhaps you can show us all how clever you are by suggesting a better word to use when an offer is made and not accepted?
    Yes one can learn something every day, but sadly during the last couple of years, I have learned absolutely nothing from you Barak except perhaps one thing. How an ugly, vile hatred can expose a person's stupidity. I seriously hope you are not a school teacher as you claim. :(
    My question remains unanswered.
    Why would a citizen refuse to disclose their religion on a census questionnaire?
    Anonymous
    3rd Oct 2016
    12:38pm
    Reported for the personal attack.

    Re your final point, perhaps you can ponder why it's an optional question?

    3rd Oct 2016
    5:32pm
    anybody who is too blind to see the obvious threat that a sick minded cult like islam poses obviously seeks attention by making stupid statements like "islam is a peaceful religion" etc, is either very stupid and naieve, or deliberately making ridiculous statements in order to provoke unnecessary, non productive debate ....

    3rd Oct 2016
    6:17pm
    personally - all religions are based on lies and greed for power and wealth. religions among civilised people have lost their power in the last couple of hundred years, which is why civilised countries have advanced so far in technology, as they started to ignore the church's ban on "witchcraft" etc, and were able to experiment and research things that the church said they couldnt. many geniuses were executed for herosy up till then. islam however, is still just as primitive as it was when the paedophile named mohammed, founded it 1400 years ago. most other religions, especially christians, have updated their bullshit to change with the times. however the fact remains that they are all based on fiction .....
    Tassie
    4th Oct 2016
    1:45pm
    More people will become Christians if the church institution changed..which is happening in lots of places, but not enough...it was never ever meant to be like it is...churches were an idea orchestrated by man who were after power and control, including the first church the Catholic..it is meant to be Gods people who believe in Jesus Christ, just being themselves in their sphere of influence..not inside walls.. but everywhere else-wherever they go..with an accountability to God and His people-Christians.....if Christians done what they were asked to do as in the Bible..it would look soo different..there would be billions of Christians- which is not a religion- it's a real freedom....like the very first church in the Bible..Acts, we are the program not the church structure/institution .there's too many people who stand to loose too much like power, control, money, if it changed now...it is/has in some places..hopefully it will be in many more...etc..if it only it was as it's supposed to be.....my 2 bobs worth...also I wonder how many other beliefs have changed over the centuries..
    Hawkeye
    20th Oct 2016
    4:15am
    Please excuse the lateness of this comment, as I have just returned from overseas holidays in both a christian country (Italy) and an islamic country (Morocco). So I am pretty much "churched-out" after viewing so many monuments to man's endeavours to explain the unexplainable.

    Now, surely any all-powerful omnipotent god-like super being worth his/her/its salt would ensure his/her/its underlings all knew exactly what he/she/it was all about, and would quickly put to rest any wrong beliefs. So there would only be one religion.

    Therefore, the existence of multiple religions must be conclusive proof of the non-existence of god.
    Anonymous
    20th Oct 2016
    4:35am
    That was a logic I tried against my Sunday school teachers when I was around ten years old. No answer from them really. Just mystical stuff like "Ah, but I have seen God".

    I cannot see how any rational thinker can believe in any of the established religions.
    Rod63
    20th Oct 2016
    7:47am
    Quite agree. There are so many religions, the adherents of each often arguing it is the "one".
    Lookfar
    20th Oct 2016
    1:50pm
    Does that mean that because there are many opinions as to what tastes good, there is no such thing as a sense of taste?,
    - that we all vote for a different politician or party so there is no such thing as a politician or political party?
    - that we all have a different opinion so nothing can be known?
    How could one play a game of chess or even drive down the street?
    There is a mentality that shrieks out "cheat" or "foul" whenever the other side gets a goal, is that what should determine who wins a football game?
    The error is on the side of the religions saying they have the only way, but that is logically unlikely, not proof of anything.
    Hawkeye
    21st Oct 2016
    2:56am
    No Lookfar (now there's a misnomer), it means just there is no god.

    I can't see any logic in your drivel, but to put your silly examples into perspective,
    - If there was actually a truly best taste, then everyone would agree on it. They don't, so there isn't!!!
    - If there was truly a great political party that had the perfect solution to everything and could be all things to all people, then everyone would vote for them. They don't, so there isn't!!!
    - Game of chess or driving down the street? Can't see any sense in those so I won't bother with those two nonsenses.
    - If there was a truly best of the best all-conquering football team (St.George came close in the 50's and 60's), then they would win every game. They don't, so there isn't!!!


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