6th Dec 2016
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PM announces review of carbon emissions

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has brought the nation’s climate change policies back to our attention by announcing the Government’s plans to review the possibility of a new carbon tax.

Despite backlash from members of the Coalition, Mr Turnbull said on Tuesday morning that a review of the climate policy, set to take place next year, was “nothing remarkable”.

“The review of the climate policy which will be undertaken next year has been part of the Coalition's policy for many years, long before I was Prime Minister.

“This is absolutely part of our policy; it’s part of the policy we took to the election in 2013 and 2016 and, indeed, we took to the election in 2010,” he said.

He claimed that the best way for Australia to cut carbon emissions was to implement a tax.

“Now, the fact is ... we cannot cost-effectively achieve a substantial cut in emissions without putting a price on carbon. We have to put a price on carbon.

“We can do it via a carbon tax if you like; the better approach is via a cap-and-trade emissions trading scheme,” he said.

The review, conducted by the Department of the Environment and Energy, will involve examining the best way to meet Australia’s climate commitments, with a discussion paper set to be released in early 2017.

Mr Turnbull yesterday criticised former prime minister Kevin Rudd for his decision to abandon the emissions trading scheme, claiming it resulted in one of the most “self-destructive” political acts ever witnessed in the country.

However, Deputy Prime Minister and Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce, and Liberal backbencher Cory Bernardi, were opposed to a return to the carbon pricing discussion, with Mr Bernardi telling the media it would be like “ripping a scab off an old wound”.

“It might make us lauded by the Greens and the Labor Party and the rent seekers, but this is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard in politics in recent times,” Senator Bernardi said.

Energy Networks Australia chief executive John Bradley said a climate policy review would be very welcomed, citing the need for “stability” after a decade of uncertainty in the electricity and gas distribution industry.

Energy Networks Australia’s research project, in association with the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO), found that having an emissions trading scheme in the energy sector could help ease the financial burden on Australian households, with a potential average saving of $216 per year.

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What are your thoughts? Do you welcome a return to the carbon tax discussion?

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    Auction Girl
    7th Dec 2016
    8:19am
    Don't know how much longer Australia wants to be a neanderthal on Climate Change and Global Warming. It's like going to the doctors and not liking the diagnoses so shopping around for a different result until you get the one you want (doesn't matter if it's not the truth).
    The sooner we get on with the essential transition necessary the better for all, particularly our grandkids. I live in fear for their futures.
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    8:39am
    Australia is set to be the last nation to move kicking and screaming that it wants to stay on the coal bandwagon. Then we will be hit with tariffs from other nations. We will deserve what we get.
    jackie
    7th Dec 2016
    9:33am
    MICK....Australia has always been 40 years behind. This is because our politicians have been generations of FASDs
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    12:18pm
    You have a point. I suspect it is more a case of business owning governments rather than governments working for the nation as a whole. Having said that our puppets are a sad lot....but that is a reflection on Australians and the media which elect these lemons.
    wally
    7th Dec 2016
    5:49pm
    So our Number One Climate Hysteric Malcolm wants a review of Australia's climate change policies does he? Why? Is this part of the deal he made to get the Greens to agree to support his ABCC legislation in the Senate? Looking at what South Australia is experiencing by closing down their coal fired electricity generating plant and the subsequent failure of the renewable energy to meet that state's power needs should serve as a warning against repeating that mistake on a national level.

    Judging from the reaction of other Liberal parliamentarians to his recent pronouncement and his parlous standing in the most recent polling results, me thinks Malcolm is making a rod for his own back. He is picking a fight he does not need. If he has any sense, he will take the chorus of howls on board and let the matter quietly wither away until people are more likely to agree with his program.
    Bonny
    8th Dec 2016
    10:57am
    I to fear for our grandkids future in that all taxing carbon emission will do is mortgage their future for the benefit of the rich.
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    8:37am
    Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb!
    Are you kidding Amelia???? This is a coalition government which is (election) funded by the coal industry. It has just thrown its weight behind the biggest environmentally destructive mine (Adani) on the planet. I know lies when I hear them and I'll believe that Turnbull and his crooked government want a CArbon Tax when I see it. Won't be happening!
    If a Carbon Tax did come then the electorate will remember what Abbott did to the previous Labor governments and that would result in electoral defeat....which is coming anyway according to the polls.
    Another Amelia story I suggest. Unbelievable!
    4b2
    7th Dec 2016
    8:52am
    I hope Australia's tax payers share in the future profits of the Adani venture we are about to fund with 1Billion of our MONEY!

    No doubt we will share in the losses.
    Ming
    7th Dec 2016
    8:54am
    What is the party of the Queensland government? The Premier of Queensland heads an administration supported by the CFMEU but even they realise that coal will be with us for a long time. May I be so provocative as to suggest that people who wish to abandon coal move to South Australia. There will be plenty of cheap housing soon as the people currently living there move to other states.
    jackie
    7th Dec 2016
    9:24am
    Mick.....Turnbull is funding Adani with our Australian taxes to destroy the Barrier Reef and the profits will go out of Australia. He doesn't have money for ordinary Australian welfare but plenty for corporate welfare. Yes not only he supports corporate tax evasion, he also funds corporations with our taxes. I am so glad I don't have grandchildren and never will. This is expected from a Prime Minister that hides his wealth off shore to avoid pay his share of tax through LEGAL loopholes. Of course, he will never get rid of negative gearing too. His self-interest is his only greedy priority, not Australians and Australia. No wonder his mother abandoned him.
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    10:31am
    I suspect that the Adani company is also giving election funding (bribes) to this government. Given the times nobody in their right mind would build a (new) project like this and I object that my taxes are being used for this purpose.

    Ming: what a lot of twaddle. The CFMEU has nothing to do with the Queensland government. As for South Australia you continue the government lie about why the state had a power issue. Nothing to do with renewable energy. The public already knows that.
    libsareliars
    9th Dec 2016
    11:42am
    Agree with Mick and Jackie. These neanderthals in power are killing the environment and the renewables industry for a few filthy dollars into their party coffers. They will not be remembered kindly by history, if humans survive.
    4b2
    7th Dec 2016
    8:39am
    I recall Paul Keating describing Downer as a shiver looking for spine, hate to think what he would say about this lot. Not a spine amongst any of them, right wing extremists and the Nationals are running this Government with the talking heads or nodding heads up front doing whatever the back room boys tell them.
    HarrysOpinion
    7th Dec 2016
    10:52am
    Anything that this Prime Minister says is worthless, meaningless and pointless. A walking fork tongue, oxygen thief pansy who destroyed the integrity of the meaning of "Iron clad promise".
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    12:19pm
    No such thing as an iron clad promise in politics. When the right uses this I normally break out into uproarious laughter as the right are congenital liars without equal.
    HarrysOpinion
    7th Dec 2016
    3:35pm
    Nothing worse than a politician who is a liar and a sneak. So, false promise is not a crime but it's a criminal mind that creates it.
    Ming
    7th Dec 2016
    8:47am
    This Prime Minister had better get his act together, he is obviously an intelligent man but is out of his depth politically, he lost the leadership previously over climate tax and will not only loose the leadership again but destroy the Liberal party unless he wakes up. There has seldom been a more stupid decision that to raise the issue of a climate tax again. No wonder he is now scrambling to rule it out.
    jackyd
    7th Dec 2016
    9:11am
    With you all the way!.....
    Except no need to confuse being charming with intelligence.
    Not a Bludger
    7th Dec 2016
    12:29pm
    Absolutely correct, Ming - TinEar Turnbull is a political incompetent who should promptly be put out to pasture in his Harbourside MacMansion.
    Let someone else get on with running the country.
    jackyd
    7th Dec 2016
    8:56am
    Hoax of the century! .....if the alternative discussion was centered on Thorium reactors then yes, leave coal in the ground but such an industry-leading alternative is not even at discussion point.
    Hunter
    7th Dec 2016
    9:59am
    Our Socialist Liebor/Greens lite P.M./Goldman Sachs rep. has obviously forgotten conservative voters (again) and the reason Abbott won the election in 2013 was - "Axe the tax". He would do well to listen to Trumps view on the worlds greatest scam/con. South Australia is a prime example of what to look forward to if this folly is pursued. The most expensive, intermittent , unreliable , industry destroying power source in the world. Drain the swamp......
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    10:36am
    The only reason Abbott won the election is because the right wing media campaign was on his side and ran his relentless attack giving it credibility.
    Trump is now NOT draining the swamp and actually hiring establishment people for key roles. And in case you are behind the action Turnbull is talking about having a Carbon Tax......not that that can ever happen in a party where the coal industry makes sizeable donations to the party.
    Oh by the way..........you cannot have a socialist/Goldman Sachs representative because these are two ends of the debate which are totally of opposite points of view. Need to find out who the players are and who they side with.
    Fredklaus
    7th Dec 2016
    10:30am
    LIES
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    10:38am
    Have a look at this if you want to talk about lies. Well worth listening to and taking note of the seriousness behind the roast:

    https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/great-barrier-reef--3/an-honest-government-advert-on-adani/an-honest-government-advert-on-adani?t=O7Ay6HRXB&utm_campaign=An+honest+government+advert+on+Adani&utm_content=16255&utm_medium=email&utm_source=blast
    Oldie84
    7th Dec 2016
    11:18am
    I don't know why everyone gets so heated over all this. If you want to change the climate i.e. reduce carbon emissions there are easy ways to do it.
    You ban all air conditioning, all non essential air traffic, all cars larger than little put-puts, build more non-emitting nuclear power stations, all luxury goods and fancy things not needed, no houses larger than those we had 50 tears ago,.
    The list can go on and on but execution of any of this? Buckley's. So stop whinging.
    Bes
    7th Dec 2016
    11:40am
    So right mate! If tomorrow....we stopped all coal mining and shut down all coal fired power stations then Australia would be in chaos!
    I have home solar and in around 3 years will be adding battery storage.
    This is great for anyone who can afford it.
    Renters and State Housing becomes a problem as it becomes a cost to the owner/state. NOT forgetting that everything that is government funded is 100% tax payer funded.
    STORAGE is the problem....to power our street lights, traffic lights, railways and city block lighting.
    It will take time and a $billions to be fully renewable.
    MICK
    7th Dec 2016
    12:16pm
    This is the sort of ridiculous arguments which divide us.
    Clean energy is about removing as much of coal fired power and petrol guzzling cars from use as we can.
    None of the above will happen overnight and there will by necessity have to be a transition period where society starts to phase in renewable energy and slowly removed dirty coal fired plants. Building another plant is not the way to go. Neither is fast tracking the world's biggest coal project. Even India needs to get on the future bandwagon rather than spend money on a deaad horse.
    Oldie84
    7th Dec 2016
    3:18pm
    Mick, of course it's ridiculous, but it is not about private homes and life style so much but more about industries and jobs. Do you really think renewables like wind and solar can run supply Cement factories,steel and aluminium smelters et al ? If you do you are away with the fairies.
    Rae
    7th Dec 2016
    12:46pm
    30% of forest cover and falling. Keep chopping down the planets lungs and whining about the consequences.

    We had a Carbon Tax and we got rid of it. How much did all that cost?

    Let's talk some more, write more reports, have extra meetings. I'm sure that won't work.
    musicveg
    7th Dec 2016
    1:53pm
    And more tree clearing just got the go ahead in NSW and QLD.
    Rae
    7th Dec 2016
    4:05pm
    I don't think they will be satisfied until the entire planet is a desert and we are all gasping for oxygen.

    The huge square kms of seagrass die off is frightening. Scientists have notice an underwater desert develop within weeks.

    Once the oceans stop soaking up the temperature rises I think we will see and feel the effects very quickly.
    Lescol
    7th Dec 2016
    1:12pm
    Yes it's needed and even my 'blind grandmother' could see that but I also see that it's another thought bubble from turmoil and gang. I await the next election.
    musicveg
    7th Dec 2016
    1:58pm
    Mr Turnbull is as his name is a turner full of bull. He is a business man not a prime minister who wants to lead this country the right way. All he says is jobs jobs jobs, I say where where where? Adani will most likely employ a lot of Indians to dig up 'our coal'. He is not so intelligent as a scientist as he obviously does not believe the scientific research about climate changes that are happening. It is not too late if we give up the coal as soon as it is feasible. But the transitions are too slow because our government does not want to invest in renewables.
    floss
    7th Dec 2016
    3:05pm
    We have just about lost our country due to this Government and will we ever get it back for our kids. We should apologize to our children for what we have let happen to their heritage.Just remember when the last tree falls we will be all long gone.
    crazy one
    7th Dec 2016
    4:07pm
    It has been proven that this global warming is a lot of rot just look at South Australia so Turnball and the others just need to wake up to themselves because everything they do is a lot of rubbish but just for themselves
    musicveg
    7th Dec 2016
    4:14pm
    Where is your evidence in saying global warming is a lot of rot?
    Eddy
    7th Dec 2016
    5:56pm
    The situation in SA had nothing to do with climate change (unless you believe the storms were a result of it). The SA debacle was caused by national grid transmission pylons falling over and cutting supply. The same scenario could happen anywhere, in Sydney, Melbourne, or Brisbane. It just became a convenient situation to be misrepresented by climate change sceptics.

    7th Dec 2016
    4:32pm
    What a left wing sight this is and most comments are the same. We had a carbon tax that put up the price of all our energy and everything else and now you want another when it has been proven bullshit there is no such thing as climate warming it was bought in by a leftie named Al Gore and you all followed like sheep. Most of this sight is full of pensioner bludgers who never worked a day in there life and I am certain this type of lowlife doesn't want to pay any more for such a tax
    Eddy
    7th Dec 2016
    5:45pm
    Roby, why the invective to other people who have a different opinion to you, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
    The climate change debate certainly precedes Al Gore, he is a very recent convert. He made a lot of sense with his inconvenient truths but making sense doesn't make him right. Similarly your 'proven bullshit' is only in your mind, there is no real proof either way.
    If it comes to a choice between vested interests and science I will stick with the science. Even if the science is dead wrong it will do no harm to clean up the planet.
    By the way I am not a pensioner bludger, as you put it, but am fortunate enough to be self funded. I am sure most people on this site worked just as hard, or harder, as me, they just weren't as fortunate.
    Anonymous
    7th Dec 2016
    7:41pm
    Good to see your not a bludger Eddie but Julia Gillards left wing advisor on climate change was Flannery who was a specialist in womens breasts so what would he know he said we would have empty dams no crops and a whole lot of other left wing bullshit and the ABC a bunch of losers who have no idea and there left wing scumbag journalists never worked a proper day in there lives what the hell would they know and bob Brown well I can"t say too much on this web sight as I will get banned, like must of us people who disagree with the people on this web sight.
    Eddy
    8th Dec 2016
    9:35am
    You seem to have a very short memory Roby. If you recall up to a few years ago the eastern states were in the grip of a severe drought and we had the real possibly of running out of water. Some towns actually did run out of water and there were no crops to harvest.
    By the way, what is so bad about people with these so-called left wing views that attracts such abuse. We do not live in a dictatorship (yet) and all views from left, right and centre are just as valid (including yours). Disagree if you must, but try to disagree in a civil manner.
    musicveg
    7th Dec 2016
    5:27pm
    https://www.change.org/p/josh-frydenberg-vital-infrastructure-not-for-sale-to-offshore-companies

    Check out this petition to stop a Chinese company buying an Australian Energy Company. I think this is more of a worry.
    Anonymous
    7th Dec 2016
    7:09pm
    why this confusion about malcolm turncoat he was told by labor, when he applied for labor membership, to become a liberal, after all you can't have a millionaire in the labor party unless you are a union official, the liberals fell for it, and are now paying the price of a rat in their midst as for eddy's comments in regards to al gore, just read the judge statement in England regarding to his film which was promoted by our teaching community, is it any wonder our kids are losing the battle and becoming the third world's lowest educated students, take a look at south australia, labor government, closed all the coal fired generators, last week there was another total outage, this time the wind was not blowing hard enough, last time, about two weeks ago it was blowing too hard so they had to stop the windmills, here in victoria they are closing a coal fired electric generator which provides 20% of victoria's electricity and our labor government stated they will construct a wind farm, hopefully it is not similar as to what comes out of their mouths or their backsides, just read the comments of most of life choises contributers and it is not hard to see which party they belong to!
    loved oldie's 83 and bess comments, a warning to roby, don't be to hard on the lefties, you will be banned of these columns if you upset the lefties.
    Anonymous
    7th Dec 2016
    7:45pm
    I already have been heemskerk99 I,m not keen on muslims and I got the ars had to come back under another name, have to laugh.
    Old Man
    7th Dec 2016
    6:02pm
    Turnbull might be one of the most intelligent people in the parliament but he's certainly a long way from being the smartest. He has no political antenna and this has got him into trouble once more. His first lack of political skill was evident in the Greche affair when he pushed Rudd one step too far. This was against all advice from his advisers. He claimed he couldn't lead a party which didn't agree with a carbon tax and lost the leadership.

    Now he has made another magnificent blunder by talking about a carbon tax. He may have tried to suggest it was nothing more than an annual review but the media, Labor and most of his colleagues didn't think like that. Even though Turnbull has clarified his statement, the smell lingers. I don't know why Shorten keeps telling people how useless Turnbull is. Shorten should just shut up and let Turnbull implode because having Turnbull is the biggest asset that the Labor party has.
    alinejordan
    7th Dec 2016
    9:00pm
    the media are so hell bent on scoring points that they'll criticise even the most worthwhile backflips by a government. we have been so indoctrinated by Abbotts NO TO EVERYTHING tactics that we can't see that sometimes a backflip is a step toward a reasonable policy and instead of supporting it we're fighting it tooth and nails. so childish and visionless. we deserve to burn on an inhabitable planet, we do nothing to preserve it.
    Eddy
    8th Dec 2016
    1:39pm
    Yea, but when it's a backflip on a backflip they leave themselves open to criticism. Big problem is the current government, with their 'born to rule mentally', can't get used to being in the same position the Rudd/Gillard governments found themselves in, a minute majority on the house and hostage to the crossbench in the Senate.
    Bonny
    8th Dec 2016
    10:55am
    This whole carbon emmissions is just another way the rich want to exploit the poor. Just think for a moment as to where all this money will go and who will be paying it.

    Stop dreaming and face reality we are a long way to go before we will see the end of fossil fuels.
    musicveg
    8th Dec 2016
    2:51pm
    https://www.wilderness.org.au/articles/10-facts-about-land-clearing-australia?utm_source=20161201 - DFT01111 - C

    Here is some more information that effects climate change, Australia has one of the highest land clearing rates which effect the climate.


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