Centrelink to place travel ban on 200,000 Australians

Australians who owe Centrelink money could be prevented from leaving the country.

Centrelink to place travel ban on 200,000 Australians

From 1 January 2017, Australian residents who owe Centrelink money could be stopped by immigration officials at airports and prevented from leaving the country.

The travel ban will apply to people who no longer receive payments from Centrelink and refuse to repay money owed. More than 200,000 people owe Centrelink a combined $3.5 billion and the Government agency is going to extraordinary lengths to recover the debt.

Department of Human Services General Manager Hank Jorgen has urged those affected to call Centrelink if they are concerned about not being able to go on a planned holiday.

The new measures will see immigration officials stopping, at the border, any person who owes Centrelink a debt and initially just reminding them of the debt. If the situation is not resolved within a reasonable period of time, a future travel ban could be put into effect. There is a level of flexibility in the action taken by immigration officials depending largely on the sum of money owed and/or nature of travel plans.

"Basically, these are a range of measures which enable us to contact people, remind them of that debt and ensure that they take appropriate action to repay the debt or enter into an appropriate arrangement," said Mr Jorgen.

Read more at 9news.com.au

What do you think? Is Centrelink within its rights to place a travel ban on those who owe the Government department debts? Are there better ways to collect this outstanding money that you could suggest?

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    GraemeD
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:03am
    Next step will be to prevent HECS debtors leaving the country
    Paicey58
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:27am
    Yes it should be introduced.

    Millions of unpaid hecs fees leave this country every year.

    I like the idea, pay your debts people, live us not a free ride.
    Paicey58
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:29am
    Should have been , life is not a free ride.

    Auto correct, got to love it!!!
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:47pm
    Now that sounds like an excellent idea GraemeD. Bit of a 'bolshi' idea to take initial taxpayer funding...as indirect as it may appear, then not expect to be up to date with your agreed to payment schedule....
    MICK
    22nd Dec 2016
    2:43pm
    A fair ruling. I am reminded of a parent who was contacted by their child's private school who was asked about 2 years back fees. The response was: "I can't afford that. I just put in a swimming pool".
    It tells a story.
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    3:05pm
    Thank you Mick....see, occasionally I am on the same page as you....
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    3:24pm
    Qualifier:- For myself, I steadfastly believe that for Australian citizens undertaking Tertiary studies for the like of Medical - Drs, Dentists, Vets, Engineering, Science, etc., etc., - studies that better, and further ACTUAL improvements to humankind, should be free.

    Studies that take in such rot as the mating habits of Patagonian Aphids or the like, should be HEC'd...but then again, only to students who are Australian by birthright, those that are naturalised or intend doing so as their qualifying periods allow.
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    3:27pm
    Gee...I just read that back. Sounds like I am on my way to becoming an aspiring Troskyite....
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2016
    5:30pm
    Troglodyte.
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    7:42pm
    Aaawwwhhh Fast Eddie.....that's not nice. GraemeD could be a very nice person.... for all that you or I would know....
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:12pm
    Exactly how many HECS fee recipients leave the country?

    Got a link there, Pilgrim - or are you just shooting off your mouth?
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:14pm
    That's 'leave the country for GOOD'?

    How stupid is it to suggest that someone already in a system that required repayment when income is above a certain level should be restrained from going on a holiday?

    What is wrong with some of you people? Do you see debt evaders under every rock in your empty gardens?
    Abby
    25th Dec 2016
    9:18am
    Seeing there is " More than 200,000 people owe Centrelink a combined $3.5 billion" ... this debt recovery should have happened years ago.
    bevharro
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:24am
    I am sorry, but if people on payments do owe the Government money, then that debt should be repaid. Why should they be allowed to go on a holiday, using the money from taxpayers, when a lot of pensioners never go on a holiday because they cannot afford it.

    You owe a debt, repay it first, then save up for your holiday like any normal person would.

    And I am expecting flack about this one, but if you are on Unemployment Benefits, how can you afford to travel anyway? You are supposed to be looking for a job, not travelling overseas on holiday. using the money hardworking taxpayers are paying for.
    Paicey58
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:31am
    Nothing wrong with what you have said bevharro.
    ozirules
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:08pm
    no flack from me bevharro
    KSS
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:19pm
    The article says it will apply to those no longer receiving Centrelink payments.

    However, I agree that if you are on Centrelink payments and owe a debt, then it begs the question "How can you afford an overseas holiday in the first place?" and if you can, then you should be repaying the debt to Australia first.
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:42pm
    Totally agree with you Bevharro...
    FrankC
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:44pm
    And we have another flaming union that wants to not only deter the repayments of debt obtained by fraud, but also help to destroy this country, like the rest of them, e.g. Toyota can make 3 vehicles overseas for the cost of one in this country.!. As the interviewer said to the guy dressed in a red top, "If you are on Newstart, how can you afford a holiday ?" He was suddenly caught out by that question ! but he was a quick thinker, even if it was all lies.I think it is a good idea, as they are paying for their holiday from money fraudulently obtained, so should be punished.
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2016
    2:18pm
    No flack from me. The rorters shouldn't just be reminded about a debt at the border they should be stopped in the FIRST instance, no mercy if it buggers up their holiday plans!
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:16pm
    Why? No need for flak when your aircraft never left the ground.

    Why should a person going on a holiday to Offshore, who will be returning, be stopped from going on holiday? They'll be back and the debt will still be there and still reclaimable.

    200,000? In your dreams.... more like 20......
    rob101
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:34am
    It's ALL debts,whether "real" or just because Cetrelink say you owe them.
    So,bevharro it's NOT just people on Unemployment benefits or have a HECS debt!
    Next Centrelink will be bringing back the "Bedroom Police"!

    rob101
    Batara
    22nd Dec 2016
    2:14pm
    Yeah, it would be interesting and relevant to know how these debts arise. A further question, what makes them think people who allegedly owe money to Centrelink are going overseas?
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:19pm
    Batara - as I said below - it's just a beating of the empty drum to make it sound as if this 'government' is tough on social security cheats.

    How many people who would owe Colonel C'Link money have enough to go overseas? On $257 a week it's mighty hard to save an air fare.....

    22nd Dec 2016
    11:50am
    You won't forget about the TERRORIST COMING IN, will you MALign?
    fred
    22nd Dec 2016
    11:59am
    yes , the new regulations are well overdue . the old rules were letting the freeloaders ripping off the majority of Australians who pay all their taxes , save and go without . And what has Tony Abbott got to do with it ..absolutely nothing just another smart arse comment from a smartarse bludger who blames the rest of the world for not trying to get a job
    KSS
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:30pm
    Has something been deleted? What's the reference to Mr Abbott?
    notelle
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:32pm
    I've also been looking for the reference to Tony Abbott. Might have to go to Spec savers.
    whatsupdok
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:14pm
    Absolute blackmail in my opinion. Why should Centrelink have this type of power just because they are a government body. It's a civil matter and must be decided as any other debt in a court of law. It shouldn't be allowed just because you think it's abuse of your tax money. My God people do you not care at all about your civil rights. To support this is assinine.
    KSS
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:28pm
    The linking of Centrelink and Immigration is nothing new. They have had access to each other's databases (and the tax office) for many years already. The only new bit is to use it to force people to pay back their debts to Australia. And it doesn't stop people having a holiday, it just prevents them going overseas.

    If people actually paid what they owe, think what that $3.5 BILLION could be used for.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:24pm
    KSS - as usual totally wrong. The suggested "three point five bill-YUN dullahs" (Dr E-vil) is the fantasy that Fat Hank and the 'government' seek to hold on to out of sheer desperation. The reality is that usually 95% of this 'debt' is found not to exist on review of the circumstances,up to and including appeal to the Administrative Reviews Tribunal - which most never even get to, but are settled long in advance on factual figures.

    Ask not what the $3.5bn can do for you! Ask what the $50bn in tax cuts for offshore business can do for your country!

    There's an old adage in officer training - get your priorities right!
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:43pm
    .. another thing that an officer requires is the ability to keep your head when you are being bombarded by incessant distractions.... which is what this is - to distract us from all the real issues - which are that this government is selling us all out and blaming those they throw out of work and those they OWE a pension for it.
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    12:51pm
    They're trying to ignore him, but he keeps rattling his cup on the bars at the back bench prison.
    Pamiea
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:24pm
    I think its a brilliant idea. I wojldnt even give them a warning first. Scumbags owe $3.5 billion. Australia needs to get tougher with thieves.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:24pm
    Read above... read and learn....

    You are being lead by the nose by hyperbole and rhetoric.... not facts.
    Arthron
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:25pm
    What's the point of this article? The people who owe Centrelink money (taxpayers) and refuse to pay, should be prosecuted. If Centrelink did not explore all avenues to recoup these debts, you would be the first to complain.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:25pm
    Nobody 'refuses' to pay Colonel C'link debt - they pay it out of benefits or out of tax... there is no Choice involved.
    Pamiea
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:30pm
    Whatsupdok I don t agree with your comments but understand where you are coming from. Why feed the pockets of fat cat lawyers or judges. Go for it Centrelink.
    Pamiea
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:30pm
    Whatsupdok I don t agree with your comments but understand where you are coming from. Why feed the pockets of fat cat lawyers or judges. Go for it Centrelink.
    notelle
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:42pm
    I am a paid up member of the ALP and therefore no lover of the LNP... but in this case I think this law is fair and reasonable. It's got nothing to do with stopping people on pensions from travelling overseas - as it only applies to people who are no longer on benefits but still owe money and REFUSE to pay it.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:27pm
    That is correct - with the proviso that there is no opportunity to 'refuse' to pay a Commonwealth debt - it will come out of income tax as an extra or out of Pension if the person has gone to that category.
    whatsupdok
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:50pm
    Sorry, but your brain is not in gear if you condone any government agency the right without due process to impede your freedom.
    grounded
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:11pm
    The simple answer 'whatsupdok'.... is not take to take a Government pension, hand out, welfare, loan or the like, if you are not prepared to repay monies legitimately owed to the Australian Taxpayer....err, our Government.

    We... the people, are the Government 'whatsupdok'. 'Government' is not some celestial boogeyman you can hang 'bolshi' guilt rendering on.

    I want back what is legitimately entitled to me....without the need for further taxpayer funded 'due process'. The only true 'process', is for these bludgers to go straight to jail...and stay there... until a cast iron payment 'process....schedule' is arrived at.
    notelle
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:38pm
    There's nothing wrong with my brain whatsupdok but I wonder about yours. Didn't you hear how they are going to use 'due process' first - but if that fails, they will stop them going on overseas holidays.
    whatsupdok
    22nd Dec 2016
    5:10pm
    As I said unlike yourself without being a ninny. Due process is all that matters. A debt is a debt, doesn't matter if its the government you or me that is owed. There are always circumstances with every situation. A brush stroke approach of keeping people in the country is a part of every change Centrelink has made to keep money in the country. If your head saw it for what it is that is all it is about. Every action Centrelink has taken has only limited people from going overseas. it has not changed one single thing towards cutbacks, collections or repayments. It is about imprisoning Australian in Australia. GST, mate. GST!!

    What fing difference will it make if someone isn't paying the money back if they add interest or keep them in country. Do you think everyone who owes money is just gallivanting overseas all the time. And, Yes. Your head is way up your ass.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:46pm
    What is needed first and foremost is to determine if this 'debt' is a GENUINE debt - and not just some trumped-up, pie-in-the-sky figure.

    I've already given figures that even at a superficial glance show how absurd this current nonsense is.

    "Three Point Five BILL-YUN Dullahs!"

    What a crock of shot that is..... you could save that annually by getting rid of Fat Hank and his cronies in the Senior Executive set up by 'Cringing' John Howard, and restoring a genuine independence to the Public Service.
    jackie
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:55pm
    If they can afford to travel they can afford to pay their Centrelink debt back. NSA recipients should be looking for work instead of going overseas on holidays. It's obvious they are scamming the system because it's impossible to live on the dole.
    notelle
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:20pm
    Jackie, this does NOT apply to people who are still on a NSA. Only to people who are no longer on benefits, so looking for work is not relevant and IF, in spite of being given opportunities to repay in total or instalments, they STILL refuse to pay their debt - they will be stopped from leaving the country.
    PS You are 100% right, the dole needs to be raised drastically. It is terrribly hard to live on it.
    Julian
    22nd Dec 2016
    12:56pm
    Oh yes. That will work. I'm sure they'll pay it all back.

    Soft.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:50pm
    I'm sure all those people sitting out there in Unemploymentland, sucking on their six pack for Christmas and wondering if they over-spent their benefit to buy it - will be wondering WTF this is all about.

    Will the government render figures of exactly how many people have been stopped under this startling initiative?

    I'll bet not..... once it is all over, all that will be left is the mud that will stick to nobody... apart from in the minds of the perpetually benighted with no mind to speak of.

    Every day and every night,
    Some are born to endless light,
    Every day and every night,
    Some are born to endless night......
    notelle
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:27pm
    That Current Affair introduction was so misleading. She started off by saying that the Government was going to ban CENTRELINK RECIPIENTS from having overseas holidays.
    That's NOT the case; it will only apply to people who are no longer on benefits but still owe money to Centrelink AND refuse to repay it. Typical media trash.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:30pm
    At least it's not today tonight - who once 'ambush-interviewed' me, and then told a pack of lies, up to and including dubbing an answer over where I said:- "I cannot comment."

    That pretty little blonde chick it was - and she tried mighty hard to get me to say anything they could twist... when that failed, they lied.

    When offered, on legal advice to me, the opportunity to view documents that refuted their stance - they didn't even answer.

    Wouldn't piss on any of these shows in a Victorian bushfire - in fact I'd offer them a can of petrol to throw over themselves.
    Travelling Man
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:38pm
    This proposed travel ban will not affect the Muslim community as they are, per capita and by far, Centrelink's premier clients!
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:51pm
    Mahomed will just use his cousin Mahomad's passport and nobody will know the difference....
    Jenny
    22nd Dec 2016
    1:38pm
    Absolutely agree with this proposal - repayment of debt must come before expensive holidays overseas! If you can afford to travel like this then you can, and should, pay your debts first. I don't see this as any infringement of freedom at all.
    bandy
    22nd Dec 2016
    2:55pm
    This rorting has been going on for years now its built up to millions of dollars owing now its going to cost millions to get some of it back ,wouldnt hold my breath about it
    Charlie
    22nd Dec 2016
    3:07pm
    I guess it depends on how you come to owe Centrelink money. Is it serious fraud ? or something like not declaring the interest on $2000 in a bank account. The bean counters in Canberra spent more money ringing me up. I had to add this small amount of interest to my casual work income for the fortnight. I should have got the bank to pay it in installments.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:52pm
    Yes - it's laughable what they waste public money chasing, while the big rorters get off scot free on a cruise to Alaska....
    Snowflake
    22nd Dec 2016
    3:21pm
    It might be a good idea to get the money back but it won't benefit pensioners or anyone else one little bit.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:54pm
    They won't get any 'money' back.... there's none to get back...

    Read 1984..

    The Department of Social Security is designed to ensure that you have no need for Social Security, so they will seek every avenue to create the circumstances in which your application will be void..... thus you will have no need for Social Security as defined - love Big Brother with all your heart and soul and all will be well.....
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:56pm
    The legal apparatus is designed to ensure that your Rights will never be abrogated, thus their primary duty is to ensure that your Rights have no value within that system.... that way there is and can be no abrogation of your Rights - love Big Brother and all will be well.
    Virginia
    22nd Dec 2016
    3:31pm
    S0 THEY SHOULD
    veepee
    22nd Dec 2016
    4:16pm
    response to 'grounded'
    Possibly the main offenders when it comes to unpaid HECS are those who have undertaken those degrees which you say offer 'ACTUAL improvements to mankind'. Many leave the country for more lucrative positions overseas, not because they can't get positions here but because they can get better money elsewhere. HECS/HELP is subsidised by the taxpayer, tho not to the degree it has been in the past, and those people are the ones with the greatest capacity to repay. But many refuse to take positions in rural or remote communities, so that while we produce enough doctors and engineers, we still have to import hundreds to fill positions where home grown graduates don't want to go. This is quite a moral dilemma to because we are poaching doctors from countries like India, where tertiary education is free and where there is an immense shortage of doctors. The people who do pay their HECS debts are those who may not have high paying jobs but their income does exceed the threshold. I have paid back 3 HECS/HELP debts for undergraduate and post grad degrees on what is now less than the 'average' income working in a profession which I would definitely say contributes to humankind, as have many nursing and allied health graduates. So where do you draw the line? And who is to judge what is or isn't beneficial to mankind?
    Retired Knowall
    24th Dec 2016
    7:00am
    Overseas repayments

    The Australian Government has introduced changes that mean if you have moved overseas and have a Higher Education Loan Programme (HELP) or Trade Support Loan (TSL) debt, you now have the same repayment obligations as those who live in Australia. This applies if you already live or intend to move overseas for a total of more than six months in any 12-month period.

    From 1 January 2016, you will need to update your contact details through our online services within seven days of leaving Australia. If you already reside overseas, you will need to update your details no later than 1 July 2017.

    From 1 July 2017, if you are living overseas and earning an income that exceeds the minimum repayment threshold, you will be required to make compulsory repayments towards your debt.
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    12:19pm
    I would have thought that common sense, RK - only question is if a person is being paid Offshore through an Offshore organisation based in Cayreland or similar - how do we extract money from them without a signed treaty or convention with that nation? Those Tax Haven nations have already shown their absolute willingness to prostrate themselves to any company that will operate there, and I doubt they would want to endanger their position as a tax haven. It's often their only rice bowl, meagre as it is.

    You will note similarities between this and the current international debate over tax havening and the loss of revenue to the affected nations, something that was the subject of a massive conference in the last two weeks, with many nations calling for a convention on international or global economy taxation.
    Rob
    22nd Dec 2016
    4:30pm
    Bloody good thing should apply to all government debtors.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:57pm
    Does that include politicians who exceed their Entitlements ™?
    Abby
    25th Dec 2016
    9:25am
    Yes it should apply to Politicians as well.
    Bones
    22nd Dec 2016
    5:37pm
    What a great idea, and if debtors can afford to go overseas they can afford to pay their bloody debt to the taxpayer.
    I wonder who these people are that power centre link so much money?????? I for one would love to see the list of names, and to think that pensioners Ares the first to get nailed on a budget ,what a flamin joke this country has become.
    East of Toowoomba
    22nd Dec 2016
    5:41pm
    ABC online news recently (within the last week) posted a news story about how Centrelink are chasing people for "supposed" over payments made up to 5 years ago. The article talked about how they were targeting former Austudy recipients who were at uni and working part time for some of the financial year and how the ATO and Centrelink data matching software was used to calculate they owed quite large debts erroneously. The trouble was Centrelink had looked at their former client's total income for the year and decided that as they'd earned $30K (for example) in the financial year they weren't entitled to the benefits that had been paid. Centrelink had actually somehow not understood that the student had started full time work after graduating and the income was not been earned while they were receiving benefits.

    There are thousands of honest hardworking people out there right now struggling to repay debts to Centrelink that they don't actually owe. The former clients can appeal the debt but they need to produce timesheets, payslips and bank statements for the entire financial year in question including the period they were on benefits and later when they were employed. It's a very stressful exercise and those people who aren't able to produce the necessary documentation are forced to repay the debt and suffer the humiliation of being considered a cheat and rorter until they can clear their name.

    It could happen to you or someone you know so it's best not to condemn someone just because Centrelink says they have a debt as they could be innocent victims of bureaucracy gone mad. Obviously some cheats are discovered in this way but according to Minister for Human Services Alan Tudge, the system is detecting 15 times more in welfare debt than before - a massive $4.5 million a day. The number of welfare fraud detections has gone up from 20,000 per year to 20,000 per week." Food for thought.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:33pm
    WELL SAID!!

    Burden of proof on the accused as well - a norm for this style of 'government'.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:35pm
    Tudgepacker is an idiot..... just an empty headed mouth piece.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:38pm
    Fat Hank is the epitome of the Howard government's 'senior executive' in the 'independent' Public Service - he says whatever his political masters say he will - and supports every idiotic idea they spout for propaganda and political purposes - or risks having his 'contract' cancelled or 'not renewed'.

    Howard did a massive dis-Public Service to this country by appointing such supine lackeys instead of genuine advisors and workers.... but what would you expect from a five and a half foot Fascist?

    What HAS Poor Fellow, My Country done to itself with its 'political leaders'?
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    12:22pm
    On another issue on another forum I stated the same problem with regard to Police etc commissioners - being now contracted employees, they must abide by the diktat of the government of the day or risk having their contract canceled or 'not renewed'. that means that rather than being Officers Of The Law, they have become Officers Of The Government Of The Day... something remarkably reminiscent of Hitler's Germany.

    It's time this situation was reversed.
    Amadeoz
    22nd Dec 2016
    6:07pm
    I wholeheartedly agree with this policy. It should apply to all intended travellets
    who own money to the country: pensioners, HEC beneficiers, and others who are not paying their debts. This measure is long overdue and the Government institutions who administer these finances have been far to lenient with those happy debtors. If they refuse or pretend not to be able to pay back, don't take their reasons whiteout investigation.
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    12:25pm
    Ah - I see - so when Big Bro, The Guv'nah, decides that pensions (in line with one of those current rat bag scare campaigns going the rounds) should be a 're-payable debt on death' - does that mean that NO pensioner will be allowed to leave the newly-formed Gulag Australia?

    I think Pandora's Box can be left alone, thanks......
    Retired Knowall
    24th Dec 2016
    5:37pm
    They won't be going anywhere if they are dead.
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    10:00pm
    AIDS of the ears from listening to these ass-holes in Cambra and on current affairs programs will probably see them all off long before they even have to consider their financial arrangements...

    Time to take back the asylum from the lunatics....
    Radish
    26th Dec 2016
    6:45pm
    Can someone tell me how pensioners can afford to go on overseas holidays and cruises??

    Always hearing stories people cannot afford to live on the aged pension so where is the money coming from to fund overseas holidays??

    I can only assume those who can do this must only get a very small part pension.

    Something does not add up?
    MsM
    22nd Dec 2016
    7:48pm
    I don't see why you should not pay your debt before embarking on and overseas holiday
    However
    I'm sure there will be odd cases of family paid fares to visit sick and dying relatives
    In those cases, one would hope individuals are given the opportunity to explain and prove their case
    Macca
    22nd Dec 2016
    8:42pm
    Let them go just remind them that they can't come back until debt is paid.All over red rover .Maybe then parents might have to bail them out.It's called freedom of choice.Macca
    particolor
    22nd Dec 2016
    9:18pm
    "Off to Syria Sir ? " :-) :-)
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:39pm
    How did that get into it?
    Rosret
    22nd Dec 2016
    10:19pm
    Rather than allowing these people buy a ticket cancel their passport.
    I know at a private school when some students presented at school with their money to go on a fancy excursion the money was taken and directly put into fees owed.
    It seemed fine to me.
    TREBOR
    23rd Dec 2016
    10:11pm
    a) How do people who owe Colonel C'Link money and are on Unemployment Benefit get enough to leave the country?

    b) I read the last one and it said only those who owed and were no longer on benefits were affected - how does that equate to 200,000?

    c) I did the figures for you and every single one of those receiving Unemployment Benefits would have to owe the Guv'nah $3750 EACH to make the figure Fat Hank cited of (Dr Evil) .. three bill-yun dullahs!

    My conclusion is this is just another rhetorical paper tiger put out as we approach Christmas Eve, by a 'government' totally bereft of policies and initiatives, and which can only pound on the same drum over and over, in the fervent hope that enough simple-minded fools out there will actually believe that the whole problem with the Australian economy is those stinking 'dole bludger' and 'overpaid pensioners'.

    ROFL emoticon implied, and opportunity to post youtube of 'The Tin Drum' required.... the shot with the kid with the mad eyes beating the drum as NAZI Germany goes down...
    notelle
    24th Dec 2016
    1:00am
    TREBOR..... thanks for all your comments. I enjoyed reading them and agree with a lot of what you wrote.
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    12:27pm
    I but try to make sense of a perfect storm of propaganda.
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    12:40pm
    .. sound serious, but I'm actually a very funny person.... just like to think and to turn a nice phrase... The Guv hated me when I worked for them.
    whatsupdok
    24th Dec 2016
    2:38pm
    Wonder how this ruling will be applied to cases that are being appealed?
    TREBOR
    24th Dec 2016
    2:44pm
    In most cases, not at all...
    PIXAPD
    25th Dec 2016
    9:29pm
    They owe the taxpayer money... I say GO GET EM
    PIXAPD
    25th Dec 2016
    9:30pm
    3.5 BILLION?....you have got to be joking? Get it back.
    Radish
    26th Dec 2016
    6:38pm
    What a darn good idea. If you own the taxpayers of this country money (ie. Centrelink) yes you should clear the debt before you go overseas on holiday.

    This will scare the daylights out of some LOL.

    Just as an aside...we have a doctor who lived and worked in Pewrth who has a HECS debt and he skipped the country to fight on the side of ISIS...wonder if he will have the gall to try and get back here. Pity this rule was not in when he left.
    eggles01
    27th Dec 2016
    2:23pm
    I ask,just how many people commenting on this article actually listen to it,the story I picked up on is that it only applies to people no longer receiving benefits which would mean they have either found work or had some sort of windfall,as usual Current Affair has buggered up the story by including people who are still receiving newstart benefit,as far as HECS go, if they can afford go overseas they do not need HECS unless they work weekends or casual early afternoon/night work,I also believe that anybody that are proven to be on any type of drugs be stripped of their income and their rent and utilities bills be paid straight to the companies by centrepay,and given a food only eftpos card for everyday expenses including free public transport so they can get to any job they apply for so there is no excuse to stop applying for such positions,Work for the dole,there are many people of all ages that would volunteer for them and a small extra weekly payment,back early 1990 I asked to be taken off the disability pension so I could apply for casual work for tax free $3.50 per hour on top of unemployment benefit for 15 hours per week but the government doctor would not sign me off to do that job due to my disabilities,as for newstart allowance there should be 2 categories,1 being tryers and the other bludgers,which 1 are you? you know who I am talking about,dont you
    Adrianus
    5th Jan 2017
    10:48am
    What a joke! Do we really need to import these no-hopers who treat the tax payers of Australia with utter contempt. Centrelink is no longer providing the safety net for those Aussies who have fallen on hard times. It is now the people's bank, to be used for as many withdrawals as some would like. And if that's not enough lets vote in Labor/Unions to raise taxes. What a joke!!! The system is producing a very unhealthy attitude among the youth.
    eggles01
    9th Mar 2018
    4:31pm
    The Australian Government should have the intestical fortitude to place an Australian per head count on everybody living in Australia (with no options),I am a 75yr pensioner (not a self funded retiree)and i would be willing to pay $1.00 per week, up to $3.00 for the working people and up to $5.00 for the rich including lotto winners of Australia's bill,I believe we have over 24 million humans living in Australia at the 2017 so that would give a fair bite into the big debt that we have,I should also tell you that from my bank account the interest I have received for the last 3 years is,2c 16-1742c 15-16 and a great big one of 43c all p/a,also the baby bonus should be re-structured,
    rob101
    9th Mar 2018
    4:44pm
    The ATO is doing the same thing and so is Child Support Agencies. And the ATO is Listing Tax Debts with Credit Reporting Agencies.This a matter of Public Record and was reported in The Age Business pages a few weeks ago!
    GrayComputing
    21st Jun 2018
    12:51pm
    WHAT AN INSANE IDEA.
    This scheme is of course beloved by all dictatorial countries in the world past and present.
    Since when did we give the government powers to do this on a large scale?
    Time for a high court challenge. Who can I donate my $10 to get this underway.
    cupoftea
    14th Aug 2018
    4:32pm
    I think if they going to attack people that owe this country monies let them start at the top right at the top by an independent dept.and work there way down


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