Key challenges for the re-elected Coalition government: Conversation experts respond

Five experts in their field outline the challenges facing the re-elected Government.

Challenges for re-elected Coalition

The Conversation experts take a closer look at what’s in store for the country in five key policy areas: health, tax, education, infrastructure and the environment.

Wes Mountain/The Conversation, CC BY-NDCorey J. A. Bradshaw, Flinders University; Miranda Stewart, University of Melbourne; Peter Goss, Grattan Institute; Phillip O'Neill, Western Sydney University, and Stephen Duckett, Grattan Institute

The Coalition has won the federal election. So what will this mean for key policy areas?

Conversation experts take a closer look at what’s in store for health, taxes, the environment, education and infrastructure – five of the most closely watched policy areas in the election campaign.

Environment
Corey J. A. Bradshaw, Matthew Flinders Fellow in Global Ecology, Flinders University

Environment Minister Melissa Price has not been in the portfolio for long — only since August 2018 — but has already developed a strong reputation for either being silent, or merely rubber-stamping Coalition policies.

On the latter, she has never voted against the majority of her party since entering parliament in 2013, which means she voted against the carbon price, boosting investments in renewable energy, stronger marine and freshwater conservation measures and protecting the Great Barrier Reef.

But since taking over the portfolio, her low profile has meant that she has not voted on much environmental legislation at all, and she has regularly turned down requests to be interviewed on her party’s environmental policies, or to participate in a debate.

In fact, she was even absent from the prime minister’s launch of the Coalition’s environment platform in early May, except for a media release referencing the promise to provide A$100 million to tackle biodiversity loss - an amount deemed inadequate by experts. She has also been consistently silent following various environmental catastrophes such as intense bushfires, floods and fish kills in the Murray-Darling.

Her most recent notoriety arose from her signing off on the Adani groundwater management plan for the highly controversial Carmichael coalmine immediately before the 2019 election was called, despite condemnation from different research agencies.

In a similar move, she then approved the Yeelirrie uranium mine in her own electorate of Durack in Western Australia, despite the warning in 2016 by the state’s Environment Protection Authority of the high threat of extinction the mine posed to native animals.

Previously, she approved a controversial tourism development in the Tasmanian Wilderness World Heritage Area by concluding it should be exempt from assessment under the Environmental Protection and Biodiversity Conservation (EPBC) Act. She was also allegedly in breach of the EPBC Act itself by delaying decisions on species threat listing — an ironic act considering that her own electorate of Durack has the highest number of threatened species of any Australian electorate.

Price also challenged the advice of hundreds of the world’s top climate scientists that emissions must reach zero by 2050 in order to stop global warming at 1.5 degrees Celsius. She also repeats the Coalition mantra that Australia will meet its international emissions-reductions commitments, despite emissions continuing to rise. However, she has recently acquiesced and at least admitted that many environmental disasters in Australia are in fact linked to climate change.

Finally, Price is probably most infamous for insulting the former president of Kiribati by accusing him of being in Australia only “for the cash” — a denigrating comment for a nation in great peril due to climate change.

Taxes
Miranda Stewart, Professor of Law, University of Melbourne Law School

Returning as treasurer, Josh Frydenberg can count on a mandate for the LNP program of income tax cuts put in place at the last budget. These tax cuts deliver a substantial permanent reduction in tax for wealthy Australians and flatten the overall tax rate structure. But for middle income earners, they barely return bracket creep.

These are going to cost a lot of money over time. A lot more could be done to secure the tax base – increasing its efficiency and fairness, easing compliance and administrative burdens, and closing the tax gap. That includes fixing holes in the income tax base and broadening the base – especially work-related deductions, and addressing the gaps in the GST. But none of that seems likely to happen in this term of government.

What is the LNP tax policy apart from income tax cuts? As usual, there’s a long list of unlegislated tax measures to modify details of the tax system and fix problems in it. But there’s not much big tax policy in the LNP’s agenda.

There is bipartisan support for ensuring multinationals pay their fair share of tax. The G20 ministers will be deciding on – or derailing – proposals to tax the large digital tech companies next month. Australia may need to decide whether it will seek to implement a digital services tax on the tech giants (a decision deferred following a treasury discussion paper last year), or throw support behind a US proposal to allocate their profits more fairly around the globe.

The LNP has a problem with corporate tax domestically. Having failed to persuade the people or the Senate to cut the corporate tax rate to 25% - in spite of rates trending down around the world - its unlikely to have any better luck this time around.

Oh, and your franking credit refund, trust income splitting, superannuation concessions, negative gearing and capital gains tax 50% discount are safe, too.

The Coalition’s tax policies focus on simplifying the tax system, and will cost the government A$158 billion over the next ten years. David Crosling/AAP

Education
Peter Goss, School Education Program Director, Grattan Institute

The re-elected Coalition government has some big policy decisions to make. In early childhood education, the Coalition needs to shift focus. It favours childcare at the expense of preschool, but both need investment.

Preschool funding for 4-year-olds has once again been rolled over for just one year. The focus on attendance by disadvantaged children is good, though modest. The Coalition must also pay more attention to quality.

School funding is unfinished business. Dan Tehan’s first action as education minister was a peace deal with Catholic and independent schools. Most of the extra funding was appropriate, but the A$1.2 billion Choice and Affordability Fund was rapidly, and rightly, labelled a slush fund. It should be scrapped.

Last December’s National School Reform Agreement with the states made matters worse. With the Commonwealth’s blessing, states must ensure private schools, but not public schools, reach 100% of their funding targets.

States can use accounting tricks such as depreciation to meet their Gonski commitments. With depreciation, states can claim the up-front cost of school buildings, which can’t be used to hire teachers, as part of their contribution towards operating costs.

While all three school sectors will get funding increases under the Coalition, current policy settings won’t reverse the effect of the past decade, when nearly all the extra resources went to private schools.

Beyond funding, most of the Coalition’s other policy plans are sensible enough, but small-scale in nature. Many are in progress, but several will be hard to implement. The most promising is the national evidence institute, so long as it is set up with real independence and a broad remit.

Health
Stephen Duckett, Director, Health Program, Grattan Institute

The Coalition made few new health promises during the campaign. Nonetheless, life will not be easy for the minister, Greg Hunt, on his return to the health portfolio.

The first task will be getting the 2019 budget through parliament and implemented.

An important initiative in the budget was the introduction of a GP enrolment payment for people over 70. This was recommended by last year’s review of the Medicare Benefits Scheme, but the details still have to be negotiated. Even if the new payment is successfully introduced, more will need to be done to improve primary care.

High on Hunt’s agenda will be the unmentionables – all the things the Coalition avoided talking about in the campaign but which nevertheless loom as challenges in health policy.


Big challenges await Greg Hunt as he returns to the health portfolio.
Lukas Coch/AAP

One of these items is whether private health insurance remains viable into the future, for instance. The recent introduction of Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Basic products will not be enough to fix industry sustainability.

Hunt will also need to finalise a new agreement with the states on public hospital funding. The new minister will have to clean up the mess the Royal Commission on Aged Care has uncovered.

And he will have to tackle the issue of rising out-of-pocket costs for patients. Making doctors’ fees more transparent won’t fix the problem – and the Coalition hasn’t yet given any sign that it is willing to fill the biggest gap in our health system, by committing to a universal dental care scheme for Australia.

Infrastructure
Phillip O'Neill, Director, Centre for Western Sydney, Western Sydney University

The infrastructure landscape has changed massively since the days when public works, as they were known, were funded from government balance sheets and run by utilities and government agencies.

Banks, financial services providers, savings and investment funds – especially superannuation funds – dominate energy, telecommunications and metropolitan motorway spending. Airports, sea ports and freight rail are run by private capital. Public transport is increasingly delivered via public private partnerships.

Only urban water remains overwhelming in public hands, although behind each city utility lies thick portfolios of private supply and maintenance contracts.

A role for private capital in public infrastructure has become normal, and there seems to be political acceptance of this. Yet there hasn’t been a withdrawal of public sector involvement, and this needs stressing.

But the format for infrastructure ownership and delivery following this election is far from clear.

Three things need sorting:

- The first is the political process for identifying how large infrastructure projects are chosen. The planning capabilities of our governments seem long gone. The idea of an independent agency with clear objective vision – such as Infrastructure Australia at the federal level – struggles for legitimacy. The possibility that private sector operators might meet public needs via “unsolicited proposals” has been exposed as heightened rent-seeking.

- The second is the role of government in capital formation and risk-taking. In the New South Wales Treasury, this role is outsourced to global financial services firms. Deal-making is opaque, contracts are secret, long-term public liabilities are unknown and the public interest hasn’t been guaranteed.

- The third is the value placed on externalities – the expectation that infrastructure will make a city more habitable, more resilient and fairer. This aspiration is foreign territory.

We have had a quarter century of infrastructure experimentation. Rightly, the old left remains unconvinced about the merits of the project. Time for our new federal government to deliver.The Conversation

Corey J. A. Bradshaw, Matthew Flinders Fellow in Global Ecology and Models Theme Leader for the ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage, Flinders University; Miranda Stewart, Professor, University of Melbourne; Peter Goss, School Education Program Director, Grattan Institute; Phillip O'Neill, Director, Centre for Western Sydney, Western Sydney University, and Stephen Duckett, Director, Health Program, Grattan Institute

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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    Viking
    21st May 2019
    10:27am
    The biggest challenge facing this government is honesty. It pulled the wool over the electorates eyes during the election process but it's credibility won't last much longer for those who think. Already one of its key promises, the $1,000 tax cut is now unlikely to be delivered until next year, not this year even though it could be backdated as has occurred before. If it didn't know what the legislative process was to get this through parliament in time then should it be in government? It was Morrison who decided that Parliament would sit for only 10 days before the election so he had control over the timing and process to get this through Parliament before the election if he wanted to. As he said, if you can't manage money you can't run the country it seems he's proven his credentials in the first few days on the new Government.
    Sundays
    21st May 2019
    10:52am
    Yes, and they borrowed another $150 million 5 days before the election. The Reserve Bank is tipped to lower interest rates due to a slowing economy, housing prices are still falling and Telstra and the Banks have lowered their latest dividends. Big challenges ahead especially to deliver the promised surplus
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    12:59pm
    Viking...The Liberals always break promises. That’s typical.

    If Queensland hasn’t had of the past 6 years then they can watch Morrison fall on his sword.

    The Coalition has caused them so many problems and they refuse to believe it. I am aware they are slow but they have had 6 years to wake up.

    They never gave Labor a chance because they would not have jobs. Shorten would have arranged something but this Government won’t.

    ADANI will stuff up precious water just like that terrible Joyce did. All for China not Australians. The Scandinavian countries heavily tax mining companies unlike Australia which doesn’t charge tax, supplies FREE water all for a handful of jobs for Australians.

    Australians are not a bright lot if they allow this to happen instead of creating their own industries.

    Stop being lazy and relying on Chinese imports. Look at what China is doing in Fiji.

    Australia invention is embraced by Germany and they don’t have as much sun as us. So many countries use alternative power. Adelaide is happy with theirs because conventional power fails for them.

    Australians are not progressive at all.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:55pm
    No Jackie it is the ALP who always break promises, the ALP has had 6 years to present their policies and came across as incompetent at best , or evil and mendacious at worst. So glad Shorten fell on his sword but he has been great for the LNP. Gotta luv him for that. Just imagine if the ALP had got in everything would have been so much worse for everyone especially the Aussie battlers, and the poorer end of town. Shorten clearly couldn't't arrange himself out of a wet paper bag, but I can guarantee he would be able to if there was self interest and cash in it for him. Cant help but feel sorry for his first wife who he was, so it is reported , cheating on. Find it it hard to believe as he is so unpleasant to look at, and so unattractive in every aspect.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:57pm
    You may claim Australian are not progressive at all (whatever that is) but I suspect we should all be thankful for it, but the ALP is certainly regressive.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    4:11pm
    Digby, PALMER GETS HIS COAL MINE

    MURDOCH WILL GET THE ABC

    ELECTRICITY COMPANIES WILL GET THEIR PRICE HIKE

    WE WILL GET SHAFTED AGAIN

    WE WILL GET HIGHER POWER PRICES

    WE WILL GET MORE CUTS TO PENALTY RATES

    WE WILL GET A LOWER MINIMUM WAGE

    WE WILL GET MORE JOB INSECURITY

    WE WILL GET MEDICINES TAKEN OFF THE PBS FROM JULY THE FIRST

    WE WILL GET CUTS TO PENSIONS HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION

    BUT WHAT THE HELL A FEW THOUSAND VERY WEALTHY PROPLE WILL GET TO KEEP THEIR YEARLY FREE GIFT FROM THE TAXPAYER WITH THEIR FRANKING CREDITS

    GINA RINEHART, BIG MINING AND BIG BANKS WILL GET THEIR $87BILLION TAX GIFT

    BUT THATS WHAT WE VOTED FOR.

    FROM ALL THE PENSIONERS. THE SICK. THE BATTLERS. THE HOMELESS. THE UNEMPLOYED. THE DISABLED. THE KINDERGARDENS. WE SAY THANK YOU AUSTRALIA FOR VOTING FOR A RUPERT MURDOCH OWNED GOVERNMENT
    Roby
    21st May 2019
    4:31pm
    Hey Jackie you will whip yourself into a frenzy with the way you are behaving.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:34pm
    And as I have said Jackie, isn't all all so wonderful that the electorate rejected you fear mongering lies as you have so succinctly stated them. As a doctor (specialists from not GP) I know that that nothing but ineffective medicines will be taken off the PBS form I july, and everything you have listed above would be even worse under a Labor government. The LNP have proved themselves the party preferred by the battlers, homeless , disabled etc., hell even someone like you would be protected by them That is how wonderful our democracy is
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:43pm
    jackie, I think you need to contact the Samaritans ASAP.
    Farside
    21st May 2019
    6:55pm
    Jackie, don't shed too many tears for the pensioners under a Morrison government. A fair chunk of the pensioner cohort must have voted LNP. We know that historically something like two-thirds of retirees are conservative. We also know something like 80% of retirees receive the pension, two-thirds of these a full pension. My back of the envelope calc estimates at least 30% of full pensioners are voting LNP. Only a small number of these needed to change their vote to change the government. Choices have consequences.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    7:52pm
    Now they are going after the unions. The employers want this. Funnily, one of our sons talked about employers today in relation to unions.
    Farside, no one in our family voted for LNP not even indirectly. Some in Qld did but not our immediate family.
    Yes Jackie, spot on!
    Digby, I doubt you are a medical doctor. I have never heard a medical practitioner espouse your views.
    I am somewhat heartened to hear so many good people speaking up.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:23pm
    Sorry to disappoint Paddy, but I am a doctor (specialist medical practitioner) and as well tend to mix with others of similar beliefs ( as do LNP voters) my other medical mates (but not all) tend to agree with my political views. But Paddington i can just easily claim I don't believe you are an Australian (but rather a 12 year old chinese hacker) with the anti Australian views you espouse. Just because one has medical degrees it stop one's critical thinking abilities quite the opposite. The fact that you have never heard a medical practitioner espies similar views to me only proves my point above we all tend to mix with others of similar views. I am heartened to know the electorate got it so right.
    maxchugg
    22nd May 2019
    8:27pm
    Viking, the tax cuts have only been delayed until next financial year, not next century. The next financial year is 39 days away!

    Jackie, the people of Queensland obviously wanted the Adani coalmine because they wanted jobs, and to refer to them as "a little slow" because they didn't vote the way you, apparently of superior intelligence, wanted, does come across as extreme arrogance.

    You must be one of an extremely small number of people who think Morrison is likely to fall on his sword. By winning the last "unwinnable" election for the Coalition his standing in his party will be massively enhanced and his chances of remaining in the office of P.M. until the next election have to be rated as excellent.

    As for your comment that Bill Shorten would have done an unspecified "something" for those in Queensland who desperately want employment, maybe the tooth fairy might also have come to the rescue.

    At risk of doing you an injustice, your other comments indicating that the re-election of the coalition will be the end of civilization as we know it does come over as being slightly hysterical, but we wait and see.
    maxchugg
    22nd May 2019
    8:27pm
    Viking, the tax cuts have only been delayed until next financial year, not next century. The next financial year is 39 days away!

    Jackie, the people of Queensland obviously wanted the Adani coalmine because they wanted jobs, and to refer to them as "a little slow" because they didn't vote the way you, apparently of superior intelligence, wanted, does come across as extreme arrogance.

    You must be one of an extremely small number of people who think Morrison is likely to fall on his sword. By winning the last "unwinnable" election for the Coalition his standing in his party will be massively enhanced and his chances of remaining in the office of P.M. until the next election have to be rated as excellent.

    As for your comment that Bill Shorten would have done an unspecified "something" for those in Queensland who desperately want employment, maybe the tooth fairy might also have come to the rescue.

    At risk of doing you an injustice, your other comments indicating that the re-election of the coalition will be the end of civilization as we know it does come over as being slightly hysterical, but we wait and see.
    ex PS
    24th May 2019
    8:05pm
    At least the ALP presented some policies, the Liberals didn't have the guts to present either policies or Ministers to answer any questions. The ALP made the mistake of thinking Australian voters could understand policy and vote for the good of the country.
    Paddington
    24th May 2019
    11:43pm
    Your values are not those of a doctor Digby. What is your specialty?
    Doctors are losing more of their Medicare payment and they are worried about keeping some free spots for their less well off patients.
    Hospitals are underfunded. That would concern a medical doctor.
    Doctors care about their patients. My specialist has a heart of gold. He would not think or speak like you do.
    Critical thinking is not the problem, some things you say are!
    maelcolium
    21st May 2019
    10:44am
    I'm completely over politics in this country. Australians are short term thinkers and only interested in their own self interest. This was the last chance for the environment and it got screwed. The ALP promised to address inequality and paid the electoral price by presenting an honest policy mix to turn back the rorts of the upper crust and promote equality. Australians are just plain stupid to allow this rotten Government another term.

    They are dishonest and simply can't be trusted. People voted like it was a popularity contest without any thought for the country as a whole. Palmer assisted in Queensland so that Adani will progress and then he and other miners holding licences in the Gallilea Basin can strip mine the place and make themselves into zillionaires while destroying the planet. And yet Queensland farmers whine about the drought! And cyclone and flood damage in the North is to a point where properties are now uninsurable. A real own goal!

    The fact is that the LNP never expected to win so they set up a wedge for the incoming Government with a dud budget promising surplus and tax cuts. Now they have to deal with a disaster of their own making, so watch more cuts to services in schools and hospitals. All the LNP voters reading this site will be affected and they deserve everything they get. Plain dumb!
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    10:54am
    "Australians are just plain stupid to allow this rotten Government another term".
    Your statement is probably the reason your preferred party did not get elected.
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    10:54am
    "Australians are just plain stupid to allow this rotten Government another term".
    Your statement is probably the reason your preferred party did not get elected.
    JAID
    21st May 2019
    10:47am
    A day or so since the decision of the people and already carping and ludicrous often 'expert' spins everywhere. Regardless of political colour you would think a population's clear decision could be respected so that their management team can get on with the job they have been put there to do. Even Mr. Shorten as a parting gesture suggested this should be the case.
    TREBOR
    21st May 2019
    11:04am
    No better time than now to put a shot or two across their bows - lest they get too deep in hubris...
    ardnher
    23rd May 2019
    5:29pm
    Liberals won, Labor lost..this is the democratic way of electing our government. For those who don't like it you have a chance in 3 years tim
    JAID
    21st May 2019
    10:47am
    A day or so since the decision of the people and already carping and ludicrous often 'expert' spins everywhere. Regardless of political colour you would think a population's clear decision could be respected so that their management team can get on with the job they have been put there to do. Even Mr. Shorten as a parting gesture suggested this should be the case.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    11:06am
    JAID, well the government has brought and bought that on itself. If in the first few days of not yet even being in government, it is saying it can't deliver on one of its key promises over which it had total control then we are right to be cynical about their tenure. They didn't promise much so if they can't deliver the small crumbs they did promise then we are right to be concerned. The lying that occurred before the election will clearly continue in government; it seems to be an LNP disposition. Personally I would have traded any of the small personal offerings the LNP promised against the long term benefits of protecting the environment and climate change but its looking already that we may get neither.
    Farside
    21st May 2019
    7:17pm
    And when the RBA cuts interest rates, then so much for the heroic growth assumptions in the 2019/20 back to black budget.

    Watch this space.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    11:10am
    I am still feeling the same way, disgusted and disappointed. People have voted on lies and promises that will likely not happen. If you are wealthy you should be happy but if you are on a low income regardless of age you need to reassess your decision to place this government in charge as they will not prioritise your needs or values. One promise has collapsed already which I suspect the government understood already. What else is to come?
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    11:13am
    The sky is likely to fall in Paddington.
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    11:13am
    The sky is likely to fall in Paddington.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    11:56am
    Well inextratime I hope it falls on the ones who deserve it to!
    Old Man
    21st May 2019
    1:06pm
    Harsh criticism, Paddington, when you choose to omit the reason for the decision. The parliament has to sit before legislation can be put forward and voted on. This election is still not fully decided and, until it is, the writs cannot be returned.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:30pm
    And just think Paddy it would have all been so much worse under a Labor government led by Shorten that by definition would be without values or morals.... and that is what the electorate believed.....Shorten wasn't even a very good con man....he couldn't fool the voters. They went for the party with morals and values, and who cares for the Aussie battlers and the forgotten people.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:44pm
    Shifty Shorten would have been the death of Australia.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    6:23pm
    Paddington, those that voted back this terrible Government may possibly not be around for the next election. The future generations may get a chance then. It’s sad to see young children so worried about their futures thanks to out of control greed.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:28pm
    Well then Jackie kindly stop worrying the young children with your existence and strange unfounded ideas. Just reassure them they will be OK as long as they don't vote ALP , or believe their lies.
    Farside
    21st May 2019
    11:48pm
    Old Man, which part of "The parliament has to sit before legislation can be put forward and voted on. This election is still not fully decided and, until it is, the writs cannot be returned." was not understood when Josh Frydenburg clearly told people when to expect their refunds?
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    11:19am
    The picture of the Qld premier as a gun target in the right corner of the front page whilst a big photo of ScoMo on a Qld. newspaper is typical of the scathing attack on Labor and the Greens throughout the election. Hardly any positive reporting happened for Labor and none for the Greens which swayed gullible people. Murdoch influence is abhorrent.
    Roby
    21st May 2019
    11:27am
    Paddington I can't believe labor is considering Bowen as the opposition leader he came over terribly before the election just an arrogant man, possibly worse then Shorten . If he gets the job you will be in opposition forever
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    11:57am
    I think it has to be three fresh young faces so I agree!
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    12:02pm
    Roby, don't be too sure, after 12-18 months of broken promises and more lies we could be praying for a revolution! The best strategy for Labour would be to elect a moderate right wing clean-skin as leader, clear out the old guard and all the union speak and get real about responsible budgets and spending and talk to the people, not to itself about what is important for the country and vitally its long term future. With only a two or three seat majority, more marginal seats and the possibility of bye-elections in the next three years, nothing is set in concrete. We have seen oppositions and governments 'written off for generations' before and for good or bad they spring back more on the failure of the incumbent than the prowess of the opposition.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:12pm
    Only in Queensland can this happen. A place of gun worshipping Rednecks and arthritic retirees living in franking credits.

    No wonder they can’t create jobs.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:33pm
    What about bringing back good ol Richo.....there's a Labor fellow I liked who actually had a heart and a sense of decency. His TV show is always informative.
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    3:15pm
    Hi Jackie, Got any more insults that you would like to chuck around just so everyone can feel very assured that the right result was achieved at this election ?
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    3:15pm
    Hi Jackie, Got any more insults that you would like to chuck around just so everyone can feel very assured that the right result was achieved at this election ?
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:04pm
    And dear Jackie those Queenslanders out think you, and outrank you, and are more mindful and clear thinking that you will ever have claim to be. Be grateful for them they have helped save the economy being ruined, in a country in which you live, and are tolerated. Take your ALP how to vote card, and paid up union card, with you to bed tonight, it's the only thing that will bring you comfort. It must be so unpleasant to be you filled with so much anger, because you didn't get your way, and the thinking right minded majority disagreed with you.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:45pm
    jackie, Samaritans.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    6:34pm
    inextratime, The truth hurts I see.
    Digby, Stick to your lying Government I am so glad I never voted it in. The truth is it’s done very badly during these past six years and won’t improve.

    As long as Labor will stick to its fair values they will get in with Albo for the next election. Hopefully Murdoch will be dead by then. Jerry can’t wait.
    Farside
    21st May 2019
    7:26pm
    not much chance of Bowen getting the nod for ALP - too much baggage from this election just gone. I have my doubts they will go for Albo unless they want to risk Morrison going two terms - too left and close to unions.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:34pm
    Yes Jackie the LNP has do e so badly in the last 6 years it just got voted back. but I am happy for you to stick with your lying evil party, because the thinking electorate totally disagrees with you. as long as the ALP has people to you supporting it, the chances of the LNP winning ongoing elections into the future are greatly increased. When has Labor ever displayed fair values. And if the electorate laughed at Shorten can you really see them accepting Albo.... even you can't be that pig headed.
    Farside
    21st May 2019
    11:54pm
    Digby says "and the thinking right minded majority disagreed with you". As a self-proclaimed medical specialist, what is a reasonable estimate of the proportion of retirees not exactly firing on all cylinders? Are they included in your "thinking right minded majority"? In a tight contest it might not be the majority.
    Dave R
    21st May 2019
    11:27am
    Labor lost because it tried to introduce too many financial reforms too quickly and also targeted some of them poorly. IMO it had the right ideas just failed on the planned application of them and upset some of it's own base.
    ScoMo IMO still heads much the same directionless rabble that should have lost and has no ideas about where the country will head. He won by offering more of the same which is not working but was preferable to the many changes Labor offered.
    I think we are stuffed quite frankly and will soon plunge into a recession.
    Sundays
    21st May 2019
    11:59am
    I think you’re right, and it is unfortunate most of the Liberal moderates have gone
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    12:04pm
    Thank you for a more balanced view. Labor should have lied about their intentions or just watered them down as they were no match for the other mob. Yep, people will live to regret this unless they are wealthy but you never know LNP may have to resort even to that against their own values or lack thereof. LNP lie better I’ll give them that!
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:16pm
    Paddington, Labor has always been honest. Some people find honesty harsh and prefer lies. Hence a Lieberal Government again.
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    1:28pm
    jackie - you could not be more negative if you tried. Why would we vote for a govt who wants to take from the achievers and give to the lay-abouts?
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:10pm
    Cowboy Jim, You can hardly call Howard’s gift of Franking Credits an achievement. It’s still welfare that is paid for by the tax payer.

    All the cutbacks to services, trickledown effect, tax cuts to the rich have not fixed up the biggest deficit in Australian history. More of the same agin for the next three year won’t too.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:42pm
    When has Labor even been honest about anything, ... pink bats (some died), unnecessary school halls, "there will never be a carbon tax under the govt I lead..... all lies or incompetence and I think we can safely say at this time the thinking mindful electorate agreed.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:46pm
    jackie, a Liebor Gov't.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    8:06pm
    Cowboy Jim, and there it is, making some people more valuable than others. Who are the achievers and who are the layabouts?
    Our son was shocked today when I told him some of the terms some people on here use to refer to pensioners like ‘leaners’ and ‘bludgers’ and there are others as well.
    He also said he had looked up what the franking credits were about and said that they should be stopped and I suspect this government will do just that. They had looked into it but Labor beat them to it.
    Where will this government go to take their money?
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:41pm
    Paddy I suspect we may agree on something. I am not yet of pension age and probably will never get it anyway unless I spend everything, thanks to this wonderful country. And my sons of course have very different opinions to yours.. But I do believe the old age pensioners are very hard done by, and the OAP should at least be doubled (why not remove the baby bonus and give it to the pensioners). I do not see the majority of them as leaners or bludgers. In my medical practice, I never charged anyone on the OAP anything out of pocket, and as for veterans, I don't care how wealthy they were or wren't, I always made sure they had no out of pocket expenses when seeing me, as because of them and their sacrifices (and the wives and families) I am able to live the life of freedom I do today.
    floss
    21st May 2019
    12:03pm
    The war on Climate Change has been set back at least three years,three years we can't afford.Have a good look inside your head and think about the kids.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:53pm
    I think we can agree God is on the LNP side, and therefore the environment. I am thinking about the kids and that is why I am so pleased we have a LNP govt and not an ALP one.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    8:08pm
    ACT has announced a climate emergency but they have a Labor/Greens government.
    TREBOR
    21st May 2019
    8:11pm
    I'm sure you can leave god out of it - Buddha has turned his face on this woebegotten country.
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    8:18pm
    Paddington - off you go to Canberra. They do have a Labor/Green Govt as you said, so please go and enjoy it while it lasts. Take plenty of warm Clobber.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:44pm
    Here here Trebor
    Old Man
    21st May 2019
    12:07pm
    There's not much point in pushing the policies of the Left, the election is over and the people have spoken. Labor lost for a variety of reasons, live with it.
    Razor
    21st May 2019
    12:40pm
    You are so right old man. The people have woken to the climate change farce, the cost, loss of jobs and manufacturing etc. We can't make one iota of difference to the world's climate as a single entity. Also Labor's immigration and refugee policy turn a lot of the hardcore off.
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    1:39pm
    Yep - my beef was with the increased refugee and immigration intake from doubtful countries. In my mind I saw the boats heading this way again. Bowed would have let them back in like he did under Rudd. The elections are over for another 3 years, so let's talk about something else.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:54pm
    OM.... I wish all here showed your common sense and sound way of thinking.
    TREBOR
    21st May 2019
    8:14pm
    Indeed - OM has not, however, included the added bits about 'loss of jobs/manufacturing' etc - all under the LNP watch...

    As a gentleman he merely discussed the basic reality and did not apply propaganda.

    In fact - nobody won this election.... it's, as usual, a matter of Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-Dumber - NONE of them has the answer for this nation, but they are safe for life .
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    8:25pm
    Cowboy Jim, The increased immigration intake won’t stop because it’s big business for a Government that does not want to create industries.

    Hence the immigration industry. They pay big money to stay here. They invest in their own small businesses and buy into our property market.

    They spend money and millions more will arrive. Climate Change will coming here soon because of rising sea levels. Enjoy.
    Paddington
    24th May 2019
    11:50pm
    Digby, I just realised this is another alter ego for you lol....
    Can others guess who Digby is?
    Knows-a-lot
    21st May 2019
    12:08pm
    These inept LNP scumbags have sat on their backsides for the last 6 years. Why would they change now?
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:22pm
    Knows-a-lot, As long as these puppets pander to the rich and corporations that’s all that matters.

    Australia is no longer a Democracy when the place is run by the rich.
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    1:43pm
    jackie - did you see the list of properties the higher ups in Labor admitted to possessing? Was mind blowing, talk about millionaire socialists. I do not have much but I try not to be so envious of other people's riches.
    Anonymous
    21st May 2019
    2:00pm
    Yes Cowboy Jim -they certainly are the top end of town
    What a bunch of hypocrites
    Use the politics of envy to enrich themselves at the expense of the whole country
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:22pm
    Cowboy Jim, Shorten married into money and beauty. All politicians receive a healthy salary and benefits. Of course they are ALL well off.

    Look at Pauline Hanson from fish and chips to Millionaire.

    Even Communist China has the most number of Billionaires in the world.

    Labor is not for some but for ALL and the worker. Their taxes keep the economy going not the retired.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:02pm
    And the scumbags of the ALP got thrown out by a thinking mindful electorate who considered the needs of Australia rather than themselves. The ALP scumbags have only ever evinced self interest with no concern about , or interest in others. They have got the very least of what they they deserved. leave the government of Australia to the competent adults, not the s incompetent, mendacious, pusillanimity of the ALP. They are Quotidian in their truculence and heinous loathsome malevolent attitude to the ordinary Aussie battler.
    Old Man
    21st May 2019
    3:17pm
    Sorry jackie, Labor is against "rich" people although they don't define "rich" and the mythical "top end of town". Their marriage with the Greens has put mining at risk and this has put them at odds with a lot of blue collar workers. Much has been made of the Queensland factor in the election but if you dig down, a lot of those voters are blue collar workers who want jobs which mining produces. Labor's ideology with climate change is job destroying which puts them at odds with a lot of people. Labor's tax policies would have affected all sections of the community badly.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    3:36pm
    Cowboy Jim, did you see the property portfolio that Joe Hockey had before he called 'an end to the days of entitlement' and then because he was useless at his job of treasurer and an embarrassment to even the LNP he was awarded a $360,000 a year job in Washington? Of course part of that property portfolio was created by Hockey renting from his wife using tax payer provided allowances. He was so incapable at the new job that when the PM needed Trump's phone number they had to send a runner to get it from Greg Norman. Hockey proved 'the end of the days of entitlement' never arrives for incompetent LNP parasites.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:08pm
    And there you have a point about Hockey, who I never had any time for. Thankfully the ALP parasites are even more incompetent, than the rest, and intellectually backward, they only thing they are good at is self interest and lining their own pockets.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:48pm
    jackie, Shifty is worth $61 million according to google,where did that come from?
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    5:39pm
    Roy, franking credits
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    7:41pm
    roy, Shorten married into money. Not only did he marry into money he also married looks. How fortunate is he? Yes a very happy marriage indeed. That creature that accused him of rape just before the election should be ashamed. His wife is a true beauty.

    Abbott had a Royal Commission into Shorten and found nothing.
    pedro the swift
    21st May 2019
    12:27pm
    Hah, so scomo has already backed off on his promise if tax cuts this year! Do I recall abbot doing the same thing when he got elected. Not a core promise were his words , I recall.
    Lets see how many of scomos promises are not core promises !
    Old Man
    21st May 2019
    1:07pm
    Harsh criticism when you choose to omit the reason for the decision. The parliament has to sit before legislation can be put forward and voted on. This election is still not fully decided and, until it is, the writs cannot be returned.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    1:49pm
    Old Man, Morrison knew or should have known the legislative challenges before he made the tax cut promise to the people. If he doesn't know how the system works yet he is a damned slow learner so should he be leading the country? As Viking said above, he was the one who decided that Parliament sit for only ten days before the election so he had this under his control. He created the circumstances where he could not deliver on the promise he made to the people, that's either dishonest or incompetent; you choose!
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:48pm
    I repeat we have the comfort of knowing it would be so much worse and disastrous under a Labor government it always is.

    21st May 2019
    12:44pm
    I’m confident that ScoMo and the LNP will take these challenges head on and provide a great outcome for the people of Australia
    I’d rather have Scomo at the helm than Shorten , Bowen, Albo or Plibersek addressing these challenges
    Australians can sleep well knowing that our country is in the best possible hands
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:57pm
    Maureen, What good has the Liberal Government done during the past six years, beside not touch the franking credits?

    No jobs and wages growth, bad money management despite all the cutbacks on vital services, the largest deficit in Australian history, the fastest decimation of native species in the world, large cost of living inflation, dependency on China imports.

    It says a lot about a Government that exported our rubbish to China because it’s too hard basket. It took China to stop it for the rest of Australians to find out.

    Don’t complain when you will be charged more for your rubbish.
    Anonymous
    21st May 2019
    2:03pm
    Jackie - you write such utter nonsense . Do you get your information from getup and the greens
    Labor certainly has you fooled
    $1 million new jobs , wage growth of 1.2% in the last quarter , meeting our Paris accord emission targets and exceeding them ,unemployment at lowest levels in decades , inflation at lowest levels so much so the reserve bank has kept rates at the same level for years
    Get your facts right ,but I guess you don’t care about facts
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:39pm
    What good have the liberal govt done Jackie..... the main thing is they have kept the labor government out of office and therefore prevented them from wrecking the economy yet again, and feathering their own foul nests. Just think for a minute of the perceived problems you mention and how much worse everything would be under a Labor government especially for battlers, and and the average Aussie. The entire Labor front bench is just interested and advancing their interests and any cash that goes with and doesn't care about the person in the street.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:50pm
    Samaritans jackie ASAP.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    8:12pm
    The liberal government is about to show you Digby. LNP will wreck the economy and do it to the least able to pay and help themselves.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    8:37pm
    Digby, This Government has put us in the largest deficit ever. Our economy is wrecked. Wake up!

    Blaming Labor never fixed it but made it worse because this Government has already had six years to prove it can’t manage money.

    Giving away tax cuts does not build an economy. It’s called very bad business.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:51pm
    That's right Paddy and Jackie this govt has performed so badly they just got voted back in because the electorate rejected their self serving policies. It is always Labor, State and Federal, that ruins economies, then the LNP is left to fix it up. The ALP is about hurting the Aussie battlers, the LNP is all for taking care of them. Those least able to look after themselves are much better served by the LNP than the ALP. The last time Labor had a surplus Josh F had a mullet and I was watching the first episode of star wars. It's called bad business when you can get re-elected because you are considered incompetent by, and unacceptable to the electorate, so the incumbent has a majority government.
    Farside
    22nd May 2019
    8:21am
    Maureen says to Jackie "wage growth of 1.2% in the last quarter ... Get your facts right ,but I guess you don’t care about facts".

    The ABS says "In seasonally adjusted terms, the Private sector wage price index rose 0.5% and the Public sector index rose 0.4%."

    Stupid ABS, they must have it wrong. Truth isn’t truth.

    21st May 2019
    12:46pm
    Shorten and the unions want Bowen over Albo and are backing him for the top job
    God help Labor
    Think God is on LNP’s side :))
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:44pm
    Maureen, That’s because Bowen can speak your language. I prefer Albo, he is a humanitarian not a selfish, self serving politician.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:51pm
    But why couldn't they keep Shorten.... he, along with his front bench and hypocrite Wong, are the best thing that has ever happened for the LNP and therefore have served Australia well by LOSING the election
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    7:55pm
    Digby, Albo will be taking over Shorten. I hope he will stick with the same great policies.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    8:55pm
    Jackie , I hope they will stick with the same stupid unacceptable policies too, then they will lose election after election. I just saw Bowen on TV saying he will have to re-think the franking credit policy...... duh????
    Gregarious
    21st May 2019
    1:00pm
    The people have had there say!
    Get over it people! Aussies are sick of being taken for mugs, higher taxes, being shouted down because you have another opinion, political correctness gone mad, the list goes on. Start reading real dialogue on the likes of supposed experts on their so called climate predictions!! Google it there’s a miriad of stuff from real climate scientists, not ones been paid by government.
    ALP had a socialist agenda, read up on Venezuela a rich resource country, a basket case to say the least!
    Grass always looks greener?? Share markets up, go figure!
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    1:19pm
    Today share markets down at 13:15
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:28pm
    Gregarious, Aussies are mugs when six years of the largest deficit in Australian history, no jobs growth, pay growth, cutbacks to health, education and other services fixed nothing for them.

    They traded Climate Change for more of the same and worse.

    God won’t save Morrison and Australians.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    2:47pm
    Share markets up again at 2.43 pm SFR. I wouldn't be surprised if they went down today or tomorrow though, as they went up so much yesterday on the news of the unpleasant to behold Shorten failure (and to think he was talking about what he would as PM.... well thankfully that will never now happen), what an invigorating burst of confidence not so much because LNP got in but because the ALP was kept out form ruining the economy yet again.
    ex PS
    22nd May 2019
    10:33am
    We have the government we deserve. I call upon the opposition to support all of the policy outlined in the LNP campaign and to expose every lie and misrepresentation they made in order to win power.
    This will in itself ensure they do not win another election.
    Not a Bludger
    21st May 2019
    1:05pm
    Oh Lordy, Lordy - the writs have not even been returned on one of the biggest thumpings the ALP and sundry other lefties have ever had in Australia.
    Yet here are the leftie rent seekers from the Conversation, Grattan Institute et al again pushing the same barrows that they pushed before the election - precisely the same barrows comprehensively tossed out by the electorate a mere three days ago.
    Will they never learn!
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    1:41pm
    Not a Bludger, 51% is not exactly what can be called one of the biggest thumpings the ALP ever had.

    Those arthritic retirees in Queensland living on Franking credits helped the mealy victory.
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    1:54pm
    Leave the franking credits alone, jackie. I do not have any but do not mind people getting them as they bought their shares on the advice of financial people to help them keeping off the pension in old age - so there is more pension money for the likes of yourself. Be grateful for SFRs, they help you getting the age pension. I am one of those (age pensioner).
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:27pm
    Cowboy Jim, The tax payer expense to the 4% is costing Australians more than the Age Pension.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:08pm
    Not a thumping Jackie...quite right..... but enough to wipe the smug smiles of the vile front bench of the Labor party and all the rest and their supporters. And that is more than enough got me and the right thinking electorate. Who would have thought with all the ALP self satisfaction, that ScpMo would pick up seats and govern on his own right. Something the ALP have not achieved in quite a while. Bust just think Jackie, if history repeats, in 3 years you may be i the winning position (though I hope not as I detest and despise the thought of another incompetent Labour govt) as by then the LNP would been in power for 9 years, despite the turbulence. Few governments last more than 9 years. So take heart dear girl, there will be detested Labor governments gain.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:13pm
    Sorry for lack of proof reading above everybody but you get the gist.. But tell me Jackie, as you obviously enjoy the sparring and banter, as do I, and as you are a passionate ( and nothing wrong with that dear lady ) and paid up ALP supporter , do you think the timely (although, sad as all deaths are) death of Bob Hawke, helped or harmed the AlP , or indeed the LNP. I have heard conflicting reports, as I have about the exodus of senior liberals.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    8:58pm
    Digby, The death of Bob Hawke was very sad. I don’t think his passing harmed the ALP or LNP but reminded everyone that he left all Australians Medicare.

    What a wonderful thing to be remembered for. Poor Blanche must be devastated.
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    1:16pm
    It seems to me that the Environment Minister Melissa Price is just a token woman in the ministry & not there on merit. She also seems like a yes sir, 3 bags full sir person & not really taking the job she's employed to do seriously.
    Get rid of her quick smart & replace her with someone that will take the job with passion & be transparent with their department. I'm sure that there are LNP women in Parliament that fit the bill.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    2:30pm
    SFR, I'm sure you remember the Clayton's ad. Its the environment minister you have when you're not having an environment minister. Its all part of the LNP's smoke and mirrors policy of fooling some of the people some of the time but fortunately not all of the people all of the time. Its code for 'we don't give a damned about the environment.' Sadly without a good cohort of independents, rejected by the people, we have an opposition we can't afford or trust in the short term and a government the country can't trust or afford for the long term. Its pretty sad, you'd think a PM with young children would want an environment fit for his kids to grown up in, clearly not. Cheap now pay later is the mantra for this PM.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:32pm
    SFR, What does it tell when she approves ADANI despite all the scientific evidence of the damage it will do to the environment.

    She is like Julie Bishop that fought against dying asbestos victims and delayed their court cases so that they would dies and she could win.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:15pm
    I know SFR and how could things be any more wonderful!!
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:13pm
    And I repeat Mondo could things possibly get any better. the chateau neuf de pape '47, and the beluga caviar will be coming out tonight, along with the obligatory larks tongue in aspic.
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    5:10pm
    Adani isn't the type of company we want here in Australia, their environment & human rights are draw into question all the time wherever they have operated. They will do the same here unless the government place very strict controls on their operations & environmental groups & journalists have unrestricted access to all their operations 24-7.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    5:12pm
    Agreed, you wouldn't expect anyone connected with the LNP to buy Australian wine would you? The idea of supporting Australian industry and jobs is a bit of an anathema them. The legendry 'end of the age of entitlement' Hockey is testament to that, "I dare Ford to close in Australia," and they did and the others followed suite all under an LNP government; a whole industry gone. Hockey still has his over paid under performed job until another incompetent ex-minister is lined up for hiding away. And they try to kid us they are concerned about mining jobs in Queensland? Are you for real? Its not the jobs they are protecting it's the party funds maintained by the mining industry they are safeguarding.
    Eddy
    21st May 2019
    1:51pm
    I suspect the LNP, and Mr Morrison in particular, would rather have lost this election. The governing party in the near future may find they have been handed a poisoned chalice, similar to the one Mrs May is currently holding trying to get Brexit through the British Parliament.
    The USA Sabre rattling in the Persian Gulf and the US/Chine trade disputes are two issues I suspect Mr Morrison would have rather left to Mr Shorten. The fodder of the governments responses to these, and other issues beyond Australia's contro,l may give copious political capital for the opposition for elections to come. Reminds me of the difficulties of the labor government elected in 2007 and was then faced with the GFC in 2008. The money they borrowed in response to the GFC to shore up the Australian economy is still called 'labor's debt" by the LNP. History has a habit of repeating itself.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:17pm
    Eddy, I suspect never a truer word was spoken. Like many I believe there are economic headwinds approaching... probably fast. I just know, given my all too obvious bias, that I would rather have the coalition battling these headwinds, than the ALP or anybody else.
    Janus
    21st May 2019
    2:04pm
    You get the government you deserve, apparently.

    What did I do? It must have been really bad, cos the punishment is terrible.

    On the Monday after the Saturday, Morrison has already broken one promise, tax relief for the low income people. Now we are stuck with them again for another three years, in a divided country, a government with NO mandate to do anything (no crushing majority visible!), and a hostile senate.

    And the inept Labor opposition has little to look forward to. Greed vs compassion: greed will win every time. Long term or a dollar tomorrow? Hold out your hand...but surely you all didn't actually believe what was said!!

    Those who voted for the status quo: don't you care about your children?
    Anonymous
    21st May 2019
    2:07pm
    We do , that’s why we voted LNP
    You obviously don’t care for your children since you voted for labor to bankrupt the nation
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:37pm
    Janus, History has shown that greed and selfishness does always win but pays a terrible price in the end.
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    3:19pm
    Channeling Whitlam was the worst mistake Shorten made apart from the franking credit seizures. We oldies never forget Whitlam and what he did to our country - bankrupting the place. The only good thing I remember is getting us out of 'Nam.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:23pm
    What did you do Janus..... you voted for the losers, or losing side, and failed to support the winning side. That's all , you brought all on yourself. So suck it up, Sunshine !! and chin chin, because no matter who is in power I believe we are in for a bumpy ride and I would rather have the adults in charge (still) than the incompetent ALP. Thank whatever Gods there may be, the greed of the ALP didn''t win out. Hey if I believed all that was said I would have probably voted for you....... all here have the cynic's eye and I am not sure that is entirely a bad thing.
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    4:33pm
    And I want my $75 now mt Morrison, not tomorrow but NOW, beer has run out
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:39pm
    I sympathise SFR, my chateau Lafitte is running out, I will have to send Brabinger out in that motor to get in some Dom Perignon
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    8:11pm
    Digby - love it. The 'Old Manor Born'! I am a bit short of Penfolds Shiraz, seeing the winter coming in. Dom Perignon, could I have a magnum? next to the open fire would also be acceptable. If not I could even do with Veuve Cliquot non vintage. Cheers, Digby!!
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    9:09pm
    Well said Cowboy........ of course Veuve Cliquot vintage is acceptable.... but we must keep up the standards.... after all we wouldn't want to sink to low standards of the ALP voters we see here would we. The magnum of Dom is on it's way, in fact I think there are some spare magnums of Penfold's Grange in the servants corners. They (Jackie and Paddy etc) are so inured by their pedestrian self delusion they can't even see when we are making fun of them, by making fun of they way they see us.

    BTW One of my favourite lines in "To the Manor Born", is when dear Audrey (Penelope Keith) proclaims to Marjorie.... "I have suffered through hard times, poverty, disease, depression and ....Labour Governments"
    Mad as Hell
    21st May 2019
    2:13pm
    The science is in climate change is irrefutable.
    Pity the LNP are deniers.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:42pm
    Mad as Hell, Don’t pity greedy share holders that contribute toward the decimation of planet.

    They don’t care for others and other species just money.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:26pm
    And a pity you can't see the truth. The ALP had no monopoly on what is right or good, for us or the environment, and the electorate knows who they would rather have in charge in the face of any "emergency".... and thenk God for the common sense of the electorate.
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    4:40pm
    common sense had nothing to do with it. Bloody Greens & their caravan to Nth Qld helped the LNP to no end & also newscorp plugging the LNP at every turn & only giving negative news about the ALP & Greens.
    But we have to make do with what we got irrespective of common sense, greed, etc. Just hope those that need it get a lot fairer go during the next 3 years than what they have had to endure over the last 6.
    Remember over 25% of over 65s are living below the poverty line, so let's get that to below 20% at least, 15% or less would be better
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    9:11pm
    As I said above SFR I believe those on the OAP should be getting a much better deal from all parties.
    maxchugg
    23rd May 2019
    5:01pm
    The science in climate change is irrefutable.

    Of course it is, just look at part of the record:

    1970 - An ice age by 2000
    1976 - Global cooling will cause a world war by 2000
    1989 - Global warming and rising sea levels will wipe entire nations off the map by 2000.
    1990 - We have 5 - 10 years to save the rainforests, Maldives to be inundated in 10 years.
    1999 - Himalayan glaciers to be gone in 10 years.
    2000 - Snow will be a thing of the past.
    2007 - Global warming will cause fewer hurricanes.
    2008 - The Arctic will be ice free by 2013
    2012 - Oops, 2117 was wrong, global warming will cause MORE hurricanes.
    2014 - The science is settled.

    One question - how can a theory become science fact when it is not subjected to the basic requirement that every effort must be made to falsify a theory before it attains that status, which lasts only until it can be disproved. We saw what happened to Peter Ridd when he attempted to destroy with solid evidence the "science fact" that his employer espoused.
    maxchugg
    23rd May 2019
    5:01pm
    The science in climate change is irrefutable.

    Of course it is, just look at part of the record:

    1970 - An ice age by 2000
    1976 - Global cooling will cause a world war by 2000
    1989 - Global warming and rising sea levels will wipe entire nations off the map by 2000.
    1990 - We have 5 - 10 years to save the rainforests, Maldives to be inundated in 10 years.
    1999 - Himalayan glaciers to be gone in 10 years.
    2000 - Snow will be a thing of the past.
    2007 - Global warming will cause fewer hurricanes.
    2008 - The Arctic will be ice free by 2013
    2012 - Oops, 2117 was wrong, global warming will cause MORE hurricanes.
    2014 - The science is settled.

    One question - how can a theory become science fact when it is not subjected to the basic requirement that every effort must be made to falsify a theory before it attains that status, which lasts only until it can be disproved. We saw what happened to Peter Ridd when he attempted to destroy with solid evidence the "science fact" that his employer espoused.
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    2:14pm
    I tipped labour to lose Shorten was not liked like laurie Oakes said last week labour should be that far in front in the opinion polls its not funny because of the state of the economy and such an unstable government and if they lose its their own fault . We have a dead economy small business are struggling the rich are getting richer. History will tell us that Labour has only ever been elected when the country is in recession or close to it with 1% growth we are close to a recession its only going to get worse so many people will lose everything. as a labour voter I am kind of glad they did not win and for those people who are frightened of change for the better you should be concerned
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    2:14pm
    I tipped labour to lose Shorten was not liked like laurie Oakes said last week labour should be that far in front in the opinion polls its not funny because of the state of the economy and such an unstable government and if they lose its their own fault . We have a dead economy small business are struggling the rich are getting richer. History will tell us that Labour has only ever been elected when the country is in recession or close to it with 1% growth we are close to a recession its only going to get worse so many people will lose everything. as a labour voter I am kind of glad they did not win and for those people who are frightened of change for the better you should be concerned
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    2:48pm
    ollie, I have to admit Shorten lacked charisma. Labor should have considered that during the previous loss. It’s sad that Australian voters don’t vote for policies instead of charisma. The same happened to Labor’s Kim Beasley.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:30pm
    Thank you Ollie I am glad the SLP didn't win also. the electorate voted soundly on the policies presented and dear simple Jackie just can't grab that fact.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:18pm
    sorry should be glad the ALP didn't win also
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:53pm
    I'm so glad you called her "simple" jackie.
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    5:02pm
    I have not checked what I was told today but when labour lost the election to Abbot we had the number 1 economy in the western world which I knew anyway thanks to K Rudd and the Labour party in the last 6 years we have dropped to number 14 and still dropping. If ordinary Australians do not spend money the economy and small business suffers and they do not have money to spend they are struggling scare mongering worked this time but it will not work every time People should look at what is happening in France and the UK BILLIONAIRS are moving their money out of these countries because they know what is coming when these governments are dumped.
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    5:02pm
    I have not checked what I was told today but when labour lost the election to Abbot we had the number 1 economy in the western world which I knew anyway thanks to K Rudd and the Labour party in the last 6 years we have dropped to number 14 and still dropping. If ordinary Australians do not spend money the economy and small business suffers and they do not have money to spend they are struggling scare mongering worked this time but it will not work every time People should look at what is happening in France and the UK BILLIONAIRS are moving their money out of these countries because they know what is coming when these governments are dumped.
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    6:25pm
    Agree with you all the way Jackie this great country should be for all Australians not just the rich. The greatest prime minister this country ever had was Bob Hawke he treated all Australians with respect rich or poor and would never bend the knee to people like Murdoch he gave Australians a great economy after inheriting an economy that was in recession the working class can thank him and Paul Keating for the good times and Kim Beasley could also have been a great prime minister but we will never know. Kevin Rudd saved a lot people rich and poor from financial ruin and should have been rewarded and people labour and liberal are still scratching their heads how an absolute idiot T Abbot could beat him without a policy just using scare tactics it just shows how stupid Australians are when it comes to voting. they don't know when they are on a good thing When R Murdoch takes his final breath it will be a glorious day for democracy around the world. They will try to sell the ABC but I don't think they will. I am sorry Digby but I cant find any thing positive to say about your mobs prime ministers all I can think of is the GST and work choices I can still remember the letter I received from my employer it read for continued employment you must sign this workplace agreement with a wage cut of $200 thanks to John Howard R Murdochs best friend .
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    6:25pm
    Agree with you all the way Jackie this great country should be for all Australians not just the rich. The greatest prime minister this country ever had was Bob Hawke he treated all Australians with respect rich or poor and would never bend the knee to people like Murdoch he gave Australians a great economy after inheriting an economy that was in recession the working class can thank him and Paul Keating for the good times and Kim Beasley could also have been a great prime minister but we will never know. Kevin Rudd saved a lot people rich and poor from financial ruin and should have been rewarded and people labour and liberal are still scratching their heads how an absolute idiot T Abbot could beat him without a policy just using scare tactics it just shows how stupid Australians are when it comes to voting. they don't know when they are on a good thing When R Murdoch takes his final breath it will be a glorious day for democracy around the world. They will try to sell the ABC but I don't think they will. I am sorry Digby but I cant find any thing positive to say about your mobs prime ministers all I can think of is the GST and work choices I can still remember the letter I received from my employer it read for continued employment you must sign this workplace agreement with a wage cut of $200 thanks to John Howard R Murdochs best friend .
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    9:17pm
    Sorry Ollie you clearly have different sources to mine , KRudd and Gilllard were our worst PM's, and ruined the economy and dissipated gaily all the surplus that the previous Howard Costello government built up. Costello paid off our entire. No other treasurer can claim that.
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    11:40pm
    Did we not have the worst financial crisis the world has seen since the second world war and did we not come out as the number 1 economy and the only western economy not to go into recession in the world of course history will tell you that and it was a labour prime minister at the helm that hurts does it not and new Zealand went into recession and guess what they abolished franklin credits at that time because they could not afford it and we will do the same wait and see
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    11:40pm
    Did we not have the worst financial crisis the world has seen since the second world war and did we not come out as the number 1 economy and the only western economy not to go into recession in the world of course history will tell you that and it was a labour prime minister at the helm that hurts does it not and new Zealand went into recession and guess what they abolished franklin credits at that time because they could not afford it and we will do the same wait and see
    Farside
    22nd May 2019
    9:17am
    Jackie, don't compare Shorten with the Beazer. Shorten rolled Rudd, then Gillard for Rudd ... not to be trusted. Kim Beazley would have been more honourable.
    McGroger
    21st May 2019
    2:19pm
    In George Orwell’s dystopian novel, 1984, there is a Ministry of Peace, responsible for waging wars, and a Ministry of Truth, responsible for propaganda. I don’t recall reading about a ministry of the environment, so my copy of Orwell’s book must have a couple of pages missing because I’m sure I just read them.
    gillham
    21st May 2019
    2:25pm
    Education. - Certainly needs attention. Are we ever going to educate boys with equal outcomes to girls. The framework adjustment to suit girls has gone way too far. University entrance is dominated by girls to greater than 60% for girls and less than 40% for boys.

    But we ALSO continue to allow our Society to be dominated all round by initiatives for women. In the pre-selection period I never once heard the mention of men. The mention of initiatives for women was monotonous.

    Forget about men they are used to it.

    But how about we give boys a fair go. The mental framework for boys as they grow up is devastating. They know that they are from the belligerent lower class of Society.

    Provide boys with the same education outcomes. Our intentional framework adjustments have the same result as all unequal playing fields. Our adjustments were intentional with education from the 1970s. I am disgusted by the convenient avoidance of correcting our own mistakes. Basically it is censorship.

    The first step is to admit guilt.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    3:04pm
    gillham, education and the love of education and learning starts in the home and was enabled and promoted by both parents. Since the social experiment days of the Whitlam era when many families are effectively single parent homes enabled by governments, who is there to act as role models to the boys? Our parliament? With the low skilled economy that we have allowed to develop (the biggest 'industry' is retail, the best paid jobs are totally non productive footballers and money movers, we import the richest and most skilled, surgeons) where many parents are working two jobs and some three, what time are they able to spend with their children? Successive governments have enabled the degradation of society as we know it with the acquiescence of the people all in pursuit of 'cheap and easy.' Our new PM is testament to that. If the upsurge of uncontrolled youth crime resulting from these policies doesn't scare the life out of most people and we allow the social degradation to continue, the environment will be only one of the many significant costs to life as we know if for the future.
    gillham
    21st May 2019
    5:06pm
    Mondo, you are correct. We have reduced our skills to University based paper shufflers.

    My point is though, that we have intentionally altered the education framework to favour girls. And we continue that ideology with for example STEM subject identification. Stem subjects being subjects that boys still go acceptably pithing, but those subjects need to become female orientated which will further decrease boys right to even less overall outcomes.

    Mothers need to wake up and protest because men or fathers cannot. Or in the the case of the way you have identified associated Social progress resulting in there being less 'fathers'. Even male politicians, teachers or ordinary males cannot raise the issue as they will be persecuted.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    5:47pm
    gillham, I totally get your point and agree and of course the defunding and near demise of the TAFE system is part of this. TAFE significantly provided training in practical, hands-on type skills most suited to males; with the result that we have imported hundreds of thousands of so called skilled migrants on 457 visas to fill the void. And of course no one is anyone today without a piece of university issued paper. When we witness the intelligence of a recently retired Rhodes scholar we could be excused for questioning the value of that! He didn't even believe in science, I think Galileo was light years ahead of him.

    The promised re-funding of TAFE was one of the bright spots in Labor's agenda but now we have a party for three years that puts a low priority on education, except for the elites. One could be excused for believing they would prefer to keep the populace ignorant and poor so they can be fed on political rubbish and induced by non-fulfilled bribes as per today's about face.

    I really don't know where we go from here, the entire school system is based on feminising, kids are even encouraged to role play being the opposite sex and discipline is out of the window. Sadly I believe that until we have a major re-awakening resulting from building more jails for delinquent teenage children nothing will change.
    Roby
    21st May 2019
    2:48pm
    Where's Mick did he neck himself after the labor party got thumped oh well one less socialist?
    Anonymous
    21st May 2019
    2:49pm
    Who is this Mick fellow
    Certainly seems to have a bad reputation around here
    Was he a card carrying ALP/ union thug ??
    Sounds like it
    Just be glad he’s gone for good now
    Cowboy Jim
    21st May 2019
    3:09pm
    Some things Mick mentioned in this column made sense. He might be a Labor man but we all have our opinions. I have been with Labor for many years but cannot stand the present crop like Wong, Plibersek, Bowen and Shorten. Albo I would like to know more about before I make up my mind. Stick to real issues like homelessness, unemployment, cost of living pressures, wages and more social housing for those that need it. Take social housing away from people that no longer deserve it. Force single people living in houses to move to flats to free up the bigger places for families etc. Mick - DO come back!
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    3:17pm
    Cowboy Jim, I agree I always found Mick's views interesting and usually valid but I didn't always agree with him either. I also find people who make judgements 'like union thug' on people they have never seen or clearly don't know, is generally a sad reflection of themselves and the people who they associate with or claim as their friends.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:38pm
    Maureen Mick is a card carrying thug/ with union bias, for the ALP probably being paid by the ALP. But (God forgive me) I miss him. The world seem more balanced when he was sharing his views on this forum. I do hope he didn't neck himself because of the Labor loss when he was so 100% convinced they would win. I rejected, despised and disagreed with all his views , but I enjoyed reading them, considering and countering them, from time to time. So come back Mick, all is forgiven! The last thing I want is a world or an internet forum where everybody agrees with me. How dull and boring would that be.I enjoy that the ALP voters are here spruiking their misguided ideas, rather than sitting in a corner , rocking back back and forth repeatedly saying, "I am better, I am better.... I must be...Oh God I'm not!"
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    4:16pm
    No risk of everyone agreeing with you Digby?
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:25pm
    Thank you Mondo I find your words strangely comforting.....just like winning a federal election.
    Not a Bludger
    21st May 2019
    4:33pm
    I think that Mick is gone because the ACTU & Getup have stopped paying out - probably went back to his day job.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:41pm
    You clearly know the how the world works Not a Bludger
    roy
    21st May 2019
    4:51pm
    Roby, he is MICK not Mick and is still sobbing hysterically somewhere.
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    4:56pm
    Mick was a SFR, no pension but at least he cared about those that needed help & would put them first before his own interests. A lot of what he said made sense & whether you agreed or not, that is what our democracy is all about.
    Maureen, so nearly every policeman, nurse, firefighter etc is a thug in your books, as you'll find that most are card carrying union members. Very very few union people are thugs. Actually there are more thugs that aren't union members. I don't know what your interpretation of a thug is, maybe you can enlighten us. And If it wasn't for unions you & the rest of Australia wouldn't be enjoying the lifestyle we have, simple as that.
    Cowboy Jim, agree with you 100%
    roy
    21st May 2019
    6:04pm
    MICK will be back never fear, he is an expert on every subject under the sun and a know all par excellence, just imagine being stuck with him at a dinner party, fate worse than death.
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    7:10pm
    Maureen thanks to unions you your family and all your friends enjoy paid holidays , paid sick days, long service leave and all other entitlements they were not a gift from your employer they were fought for by unions. If the unions did to their members what the banks did stole from their members charged dead people fees they would have been deregistered charged and imprisoned the bank executives and share holders got a slap on the hand and a fine they should have been jailed. Cowboy Jim I am with you but I would not vote liberal ever but how could you possibly vote for a mob that looks after the rich at the expense of the poor. Tony Albanese comes from working class hard working single mother and if he was selected as leader of the opposition to start with this election would have been to retain government not win it
    ollie
    21st May 2019
    7:10pm
    Maureen thanks to unions you your family and all your friends enjoy paid holidays , paid sick days, long service leave and all other entitlements they were not a gift from your employer they were fought for by unions. If the unions did to their members what the banks did stole from their members charged dead people fees they would have been deregistered charged and imprisoned the bank executives and share holders got a slap on the hand and a fine they should have been jailed. Cowboy Jim I am with you but I would not vote liberal ever but how could you possibly vote for a mob that looks after the rich at the expense of the poor. Tony Albanese comes from working class hard working single mother and if he was selected as leader of the opposition to start with this election would have been to retain government not win it
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    9:26pm
    Well Ollie how misguided you are. if you want family history, like Albo I came from a family with a very hard working struggling mother, as my father was grossly disabled by being hit by a drunk driver, when he was pedestrian. And because of this I saw the incompetence of Labor, and the benefits of the LNP over and above them, in service of the struggling people , and the Aussie bottler. the unions always disgusted me, when Hawke head of the ACTU (and Shorten) holding the entire country to ransom for their self serving beliefs to the detriment of everybody else. the Union reps granting themselves high salaries and then still stealing from their members. thank the heavens they went to prison for it. You can keep your unions, thank heavens the LNP limits their power. BTW your previous beloved leader Mark Latham is on the TV at present, rubbishing Shorten and the Unions.
    Paddington
    21st May 2019
    9:38pm
    Roby, what a dreadful thing to say. How do know something has not befallen him?
    Maureen, what you said is almost as bad!
    Well, I hope Mick is okay but the fact that he is not participating in this post election argument might mean he is away or unwell.
    Keep you words kind, everyone!
    roy
    21st May 2019
    9:59pm
    Maureen, MICK accuses everybody of being a paid LNP troll as you will discover when he stops sobbing and returns to this site, please stick around Maureen, you will find MICK very amusing in a sick kind of way.
    Adrianus
    24th May 2019
    8:13am
    I think MICK has been sacked?! He worked hard and long hours. Even when he was on holiday in Italy he continued to cajole us with his charm and wit, with his pro Labor posts. Sadly, there will be no bonus for him this time.
    Snowflake
    21st May 2019
    3:17pm
    What a mishmash of views. Good to see debate about our government. I would like to suggest that it becomes illegal to state anything but the truth in elections and that lobbyists be made to get a real job. I was shocked to find out a friend voted for Pauline Hanson (she is promoting a Royal Commission into Family Law, which is well overdue) because he didn't like Labour's inheritance tax. I wonder where he heard that from. As for the Liberals, I got so fed up watching any of them being interviewed and never giving a straight answer to a straight question, good old Josh, has outstanding skills in this area. I'm sure he will go far. But, not only can't they answer questions they then go on and blame Labour for something in the past as their way of worming out of speaking the truth. I bet they can't sleep at night when they are forced to speak the truth. Good luck Australia, another three years of Liberal dysfunctional government.
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    3:28pm
    Ha the hypocrisy is rife. Did anyone get an answer from Bill when asked how much his CC campaign would cost ? Talk about the pot calling the kettle !
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    3:28pm
    Ha the hypocrisy is rife. Did anyone get an answer from Bill when asked how much his CC campaign would cost ? Talk about the pot calling the kettle !
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:41pm
    I know snowflake (great name for you by the way), and isn't it all so wonderful, we kept the evil, incompetent Labor government out for at least another three years. Can life get any better than this!
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    3:52pm
    Sadly Snowflake the 'truth in advertising' provisions of The Trade Practices Act of 1974 enacted by the Whitlam government specifically excludes political parties from the requirement of telling the truth. No government since then has moved to amend this legislation in this respect and it would be political suicide for the LNP to do so now which surely indicates that both sides of politics believe they have immunity from lying to the people they rely on to put them in power. This is what some people call democracy.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    4:27pm
    And on this point Mondo, I am believe it or not, entirely in agreement with you.
    SFR
    21st May 2019
    5:00pm
    Life can get better Digby especially if the LNP start to govern for the people with compassion, honesty & transparency which has been non existent for the last 6 years
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    5:59pm
    SFR, sorry but fat chance with the LNP. When their snouts are so far into the trough they don't see others going without.
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    3:25pm
    Jackie. 78-67 Come back in three years time.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    5:17pm
    No, don't come back ever jackie and please 'phone the Samaritans, ASAP or PDQ.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    10:09pm
    inextratime and roy, I will do as I please. As if I would take the advice from two fools that voted in an incompetent Government for the past six years.

    You are both suckers for more punishment. Ha ha
    Cowboy Jim
    22nd May 2019
    8:31am
    Roy - don't forget the RSPCA, jackie should be calling them!
    roy
    22nd May 2019
    9:35am
    jackie, have you 'phoned the Samaritans yet?
    Yes you can do as you please but not under a labor, commie gov't, there you will do as you are told and pay through the nose for it comrade jackie.
    roy
    22nd May 2019
    9:40am
    comrade jackie, have you seen the hilarious 'photo in the papers today of Shifty and his "victorious" pals including Penny Wong, I just could not stop laughing, perhaps Wong will return now to Malaysia where she was born, just hoping.
    Keep the red flag flying high comrades.
    Mondo
    22nd May 2019
    1:57pm
    Why Cowboy Jim, did the bell fall of your cow or is your horse lame?
    inextratime
    21st May 2019
    3:25pm
    Jackie. 78-67 Come back in three years time.
    KSS
    21st May 2019
    3:27pm
    For goodness sake people. The election is over. Mr Shorten and his policies were rejected.

    Mr Morrison and his government has not even been sworn in and you are off with the negativity. Good Grief, slow down! You have got three years to go before there will be another chance. Just put a hold on your whinging. You will be exhausted by the end of the first week.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    3:42pm
    Thank heavens for you KSS. A voice for common sense and reason.
    Mondo
    21st May 2019
    6:03pm
    KSS you mean they will be breaking still more promises this week?

    This is like Abbott all over again! Still I guess when they base your campaign on lies the truth finally catches up with them.
    Charlie
    21st May 2019
    9:01pm
    The biggest challenge the government faces is a hostile senate. Can't really attach too much importance to the character assasination of Liberal members.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    10:26pm
    Charlie, Australian children need third world style child sponsorship under ScoMo. There is something very wrong.
    Crimmo
    21st May 2019
    9:07pm
    'No Policy Scott'. The people elected for no policy and that is what we will get.
    jackie
    21st May 2019
    10:33pm
    Crrimmo, Clive got a great return on his investment in this election campaign, for $60m he has potentially unlocked Federal approval for a mine larger than Adani - 80 million tones of coal per annum, 144,000 hectares of land.

    Not bad for a wage theft rich bitch
    Crimmo
    21st May 2019
    9:07pm
    'No Policy Scott'. The people elected for no policy and that is what we will get.
    Digby
    21st May 2019
    9:34pm
    Better a no policy Scott, than evil, incompetent policies of evil self interested shifty Bill.
    roy
    21st May 2019
    9:56pm
    Shifty Shorten, at least we won't have to watch those man boobs bouncing around on the t/v any more, he really needs to buy a sports bra.
    Viking
    22nd May 2019
    9:00am
    Roy, you obviously didn't see the Scummo family line up on the victory podium; what a disgusting picture of McDonald's family obesity. You would think a family man on PM's wages could feed his family better than that. One area of policy decisions we won't need to worry about with this PM is a sugar tax, food labelling or an attack on obesity costing the economy $27 billion annually, more than will be contributed by Adani. Clearly a family with their snouts well into the trough.
    Anonymous
    22nd May 2019
    9:06am
    What a disgusting post Viking
    Shame on you
    roy
    22nd May 2019
    9:25am
    Viking, another very sore loser, phone the Samaritan's mate.
    Viking
    22nd May 2019
    11:45am
    Roy, so its okay for you to insult Shorten but its not okay to say how I felt about the image of the PM and his family? They put themselves on public display for political advantage so they must accept how the public responds to them. Yes we get used to LNP hypocrisy.

    It seems that many more people will.be contacting the Samaritans now, gladly I don't need their help as many do, in fact I could buy them. All of my imputation credits and very much more go to supporting charities and the disadvantaged and I don't need any government support or gratuitous comments about my needs. Fortunately I can vote independently of ppolitical party bribes and I don't support politicians who claim to follow a faith but act contrarily.
    Mondo
    22nd May 2019
    1:53pm
    Viking, good on you, I feel exactly the same about the gross picture they presented and many people I speak to have said similar things about the victory parade.

    It's interesting as you say that roy can insult a Labor leader and the LNP patsy can insult someone on this site who she knows nothing about with comments like 'union thug' but turn the spotlight on the flaws of their Dear Leader and the LNP hypocrisy lights up.

    Its an old fashioned idea I know that politicians should set an example to the people but you would think with the growing and costly obesity epidemic gripping this country that someone at the top would think it appropriate to set an example.
    roy
    22nd May 2019
    1:55pm
    I didn't insult Shifty's children, just him. What a very brave man you are Viking, is that the correct spelling?
    Dermot
    22nd May 2019
    1:34am
    With the farce of Scummo being voted in, surely it’s time that voters have to pass an intelligence test to vote, so that this will not happen again !!!!!!!
    Cowboy Jim
    22nd May 2019
    8:27am
    Yourself could be first off the voting lists with that test, mate! Think about it.
    Anonymous
    22nd May 2019
    9:07am
    Hahah good one Cowboy Jim
    ex PS
    22nd May 2019
    10:36am
    Less than a week and the first lie was exposed, hopefully the voters will keep count this time. Hope the voters enjoy the tax cut that they won't be getting. What will be next Franking Credits or Negative Gearing?
    SFR
    22nd May 2019
    11:30am
    Or GST for all purchases to encompass food & or an increase to 15% especially as the states keep demanding more & more from federal coffers
    Adrianus
    24th May 2019
    7:58am
    There have been no promises broken ex PS. The AEC hasn't finished counting the votes with 3 seats in the balance. Taxes will be lowered, we need to stimulate the economy.
    Anonymous
    24th May 2019
    8:01am
    Yes Adrianus
    Coles and Woolies shares will go up
    Paddington
    24th May 2019
    8:02pm
    I talked to my brother up in Qld today and he told me that he worked on the pre polling. He said that people were convinced of so many lies from LNP and Palmer like death duties. He commented on the press up there and how biased they were and how strong the bashing of labor by Murdoch. It had been so unfair and relentless. Murdoch press handed LNP Qld!
    You would not think that would happen in Australia but it does.
    People were unaware of what Labor was offering them and had been scared into believing the twisted hype.
    Sadly today the Qld premier caved into pressure and gave Adani what it wanted. There won’t be the expected jobs and one mine just shut down who had been offering 3000 jobs.
    I think putting everything aside people need to reflect on how this election was conducted.
    Mondo
    25th May 2019
    5:39pm
    Paddington, it feels already as if the country has taken a 20 year step backwards. It reminds me of a flight I was on to Europe after the Sydney Olympics when Howard was in power. Sitting next to me was an IBM executive who told me that he was on his way to Madrid to transfer the Olympics' timing technology to those preparing for the Barcelona games. I commented on how good it was that Australian IT technology was being used in Barcelona. No way he said, since Howard's lot got in, there's no incentive for IT development in Australia any more, that all died after Keating, this is from Greece. Now in the shadow of Turnbull It feels as if we are having the same science and technology regression all over again.
    Beemee
    13th Jun 2019
    3:40pm
    Well its official, Adani given the go ahead. RIP reef, black throated Finch, vegetation, Doongmabulla Springs, flora and fauna that rely on those springs.
    Yet China has packed up their mine next to Adani, they are getting out? Curious as to why? Maybe they know how reckless he is so a mad scramble to get out.
    Norway is pulling the pin on coal...The world's largest sovereign wealth fund will divest from a slew of coal companies and oil explorers and producers, after Norway's parliament approved tighter investment rules.
    "Other investors will take note when a fund built on oil shows the future is in clean energy."

    So as far as I am concerned, this should have been made a vote to the people on whether it should go ahead or not. Not to be left to one person to decide.
    We voted them in, they are answerable to us, we pay their damn wages.

    Queensland is doomed now, and we are making inroads to leave. Packing up before we are in real trouble. Stuff waiting for the boom here, I am going as fast I can possibly do so.
    Viking
    13th Jun 2019
    5:11pm
    Beemee, on top of that the UK has just announced its going net carbon neutral by 2050. What puzzles me is that this is supposed to be all about jobs, all 1500 of them. But if the government's claim that it can generate 1.5 million jobs over the next three years is true, why would it put the environmental future of the country at risk for 0.1% of those jobs? It didn't care about the 30,000 plus jobs in the car industry. So this is not about jobs. Why would government bend over backwards for a known polluter that makes its profits and pays its tax in the Cayman Islands? Yet again an industry that fills the LNP coffers and provides jobs to redundant LNP politicians. Yet again our sham democracy corrupted by foreign money.


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