Budget 2016/17: Malcolm Turnbull ‘quietly confident’ of re-election

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Within the next few days, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is expected to announce a 2 July election which, based on the Federal Budget, he says he is “quietly confident” of winning.

The PM has told news sources that on 2 July Australians will have their chance to decide who will be the country’s next leader, and he believes the election will be won based on which party has the better economic policies.

“I’m quietly confident that the Australian people will give us another term in government, but you can’t take anything for granted and it’s a two-horse race and it’s a choice,” said Mr Turnbull. “It’s a choice between me and Bill Shorten.

Claiming Budget 2016/17 is not a short-term fix aimed at garnering votes in the next election, Mr Turnbull firmly believes that voters will back the Coalition based on its financial policies.

“We’ll be going to the election with a positive national economic plan,” he said.

However, even members of the PM’s own party aren’t so sure that will be the case, saying this budget was a “fudged opportunity”. Whilst it does the Coalition no major disservice, according to departing Western Australian Liberal MP Dennis Jensen, it’s “a budget that essentially does nothing”.

It seems that electioneering has already begun, with Mr Turnbull wasting no time in attacking Labor’s policies. The PM has also called out Opposition Leader Bill Shorten for trying to start a “class war” because of Labor’s disapproval of the Coalition’s new income tax policy, the lowering of the company tax rate and its treatment of what is to be considered ‘small business’.

“They’re arguing that people who earn $80,000 a year are rich,” he said. “Labor doesn’t want them to benefit from a tax cut … that the type of war of envy, the politics of envy which absolutely stands in the way of aspiration and enterprise and growth.”

The PM is expected to announce the 2016 Federal Election on Friday or over the weekend.

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Opinion: Election battle lines being drawn

Now that Budget 2016/17 is out of the way, the next step for the Coalition is securing government for the next term – and the PM may have a couple of aces up his sleeve to help his party over the line.

The Coalition’s cards are all but on the table – all except that mysterious $1.6 billion in expenses for “decisions taken but not yet announced”. These expenses are as yet for unknown budget announcements, but many are referring to them as a ‘war chest’ to be used to fight the upcoming election. Finance Minister Mathias Cormann has confirmed the ‘buried coffers’, but has played them down as ‘something governments do’.

And he’s right. In the past, most governments have set aside funds to help them in an election war. In fact, the Parliamentary Library has tracked this occurrence over the last 12 budgets, and says it’s nothing out of the ordinary.

But Opposition finance spokesperson Penny Wong feels the Government may be up to something, and expects there to be some last-minute “nasties” it is currently trying to hide from voters.

So, with the Coalition’s financial policies outlined in Budget 2016/17, the Opposition has its chance to do the same today, with Labor Leader Bill Shorten due to make his party’s case for election in his budget response tonight.

It is expected that the Opposition Leader will announce taxes and savings measures that will fund spending on services such as health, education, renewable energy and housing affordability, as well as an increased tobacco excise and superannuation changes. But, no doubt, he will also take a few pot shots at the Government for its budget being “fundamentally unfair” to the working class and instead prioritising big business over good old Aussie battlers.

Malcolm Turnbull’s claims of being “quietly confident” of winning the next election is bold, but it may be premature. With the lowest Government Confidence Rating since Malcolm Turnbull became Prime Minister, the Coalition may have more of a fight on its hands than it is publicly acknowledging. And if the PM’s intention is to clear out seats to refill them with more ‘malleable’ MPs, then he may receive a rude awakening. According to Roy Morgan Research, if Australia went to the polls today, it would most likely result in a hung Parliament.

The Coalition is, as usual, doing all it can to look after its wealthy constituents, at the expense of the less well-off – including older Australians. As Debbie McTaggart points out, the changes to super do very little for retirees and the PM’s youth jobs plan, whilst commendable, will, if successful, further reduce employment opportunities for older workers. If you had the option to pay someone $4 per hour over paying a minimum wage to an older worker, what would you do?

And say what you may about Bill Shorten, he has solidified his party into a force to be reckoned with, he’s a seasoned campaigner and Labor’s policies are, let’s just say, a little more focused on improving conditions for the average Australian.

As far as the PM hoping to win off the back of this budget? Well, as far as political pundit Barrie Cassidy is concerned, Scott Morrison’s first budget won’t help – that advantage will have to come from elsewhere.

Either way, the battle lines for the next Federal Election are being drawn. Stay tuned for more political pantomime involving scare campaigns, policy attacks, and ‘he said, she said’ daytime soap-styled electioneering.

Do you think the PM is right to be confident of winning the next election? Would you vote for the Coalition based on its budget? What would Bill Shorten have to do to get your vote? Do you think that the Government is justified in holding back $1.6 billion for ‘pork barrelling’ marginal seats at the 2016 Federal Election?

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    Why would you vote for the Liberals. Hockey called disabled people rorters whilst he and his cronies rorted the travel allowance to pay for their Canberra Holiday houses. Bronwyn Bishop and her ilk rorted hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars. The Liberals destroyed the retirement plans of an estimated 560000 retirees who worked and saved under then current Centrelink guidelines and vowed NEVER ever to vote Liberal ever again. Scott Morrisson allowed the sale of our biggest dairy , a huge chunk of Tasmania, to the Chinese. We will never get any benefit from it, and our kids will suffer for it in the long term. Why would anyone ever vote for those Liberal rorters ever again.

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      Why would anyone vote for Labor either? Labor spent the money and then sided with the Greens to stop the Liberals trying to fix it.

      I read that only maybe 300,000 may have had their nice to have extra money and benefits taking away or reduced.

      Nothing has changed with my retirement plans other than I may lose a few bob in franking credit with lowering of the tax rate on companies. However this will be more than made up with the increase in dividends.

      Do you really think Labor would have stood in the way of that diary sale?

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      Ah Bonny I give you full marks for sticking to the Party line.
      Figures clearly show that as a percentage of GDB the current Government has outspent the ALP. Not buy much grant you but it doesn’t point to an inconsistency in the statements about Labor being bigger spenders than the Libs.
      It is obvious from your statements as to which end of town, financially speaking, from which you hail.
      Don’t overlook the fact that Abbott’s plan to fix the Budget emergency (which seems to have magically disappeared) was going to be at the cost of the ordinary Australian. I guess you would have been safe.

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      Ah Bonny, the trolls are at it early with the normal misinformation and accusations.
      The budget is a budget for lowering the taxes for the rich. I said as much weeks before the budget and it has come to pass.
      Whatever sweeteners were in the budget for ordinary Australians we should all expect another ‘Abbott backflip after the election is done and dusted.’ Who in their right mind does not believe that there are lies waiting to be thrown in the bin?
      The government has been fairly sneaky. At the last election it stitched up working mums with the lie of Paid PArental Leave. This time around they have stitched up small business and extended tax cuts to ALL BUSINESS…..the rich!
      In the end one has to ignore the media propaganda campaign which already appears to have started from the 7, 9 and 10 networks and focus on ‘trust’. Given the Abbott era who would trust this bunch as far as they could throw them. ‘He lied’!!!!
      We hear a lot about “managing the finances of the country”. Voters need to remember that Labor ran smaller deficits than the current government and that Australians got something out of it: the NBN, Gonski, etc….which Turnbull has butchered, costing us more.
      I am sick of the government’s Royal Commissions into the opposition whilst refusing to look into the real corruption: the the financial relationship between this government and business. Methinks there is likely fraud on a large scale, which will remain off limits until a federal ICAC is established.
      We truly need an election. Hopefully the mentally challenged can remember the last few years, the deceit and the lies when they show up to vote.

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      ” Voters need to remember that Labor ran smaller deficits than the current government and that Australians got something out of it: the NBN, Gonski, etc….”

      MICK, MICK, MICK……ALP sure did, pink batts that burnt down houses and cost lives, school halls that cost far more then they should have and in many cases were not the building the school actually needed, $900 to dead people and those living overseas, influx of 50,000 on leaky boats all demanding Commonwealth ‘support’…….In 6 years under Labor how many people actually got the NBN? Gonski largess was largely unfunded and what about the NDIS? That was never costed or funded even for the first year. Its easy to give away Commonwealth money when you know you are not going to have to account for it.

      You talk constantly about ‘He lied’!!!! when referring to Mr Abbott. Frankly why would you care? Unless you live in his electorate you would never have voted for him nor would you in this next election. And you can’t tell me that either Ms Gillard (remember the carbon tax?) or Mr Rudd or even Mr Shorten are without stain on the truthfulness score. As for Mr Shorten looking out for the ‘little end of town (as opposed to the others at the big end of town), don’t kid yourself. Mr Shorten did nothing for the union members when negotiating working condition deals that only benefitted himself and his union officials.

      You will of course resort to calling me a paid NLP troll. But without the need to insult the Australian electorate, I too hope that people “can remember the last few years, the deceit and the lies when they show up to vote”.

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      KSS: what part of SMALLER DEFICITS do you not understand?

      Your misunderstanding of getting a return on capital defies logic. Surely you are not that dumb, rusted on or indifferent to be able to look at the facts.

      We had pink batts and solar hot water. These are doing a fantastic job on my roof. Yes, U understand that the coal industry had to finish off the competition and get rid of renewable energy.

      School halls and infrastructure: You show your ignorance. State schools had been neglected for many decades and were falling down whilst government subsidised schools went with out nothing, including swimming pools.

      NBN: Your assertions are desperation. The NBN was rolling out SLOWLY. Still is. The only difference is that now we are experiencing problem because Turnbull has tried to mix 2 technologies. And the cost of this has blown out to much more than the cost of the entire job TO THE PREMISES. And of course de now have FTTN. Substandard and dodgy in every way. Just like Turnbull!

      Boat arrivals: I agree with you on that one. That was always my policy. I commend Abbott for implementing it.

      ‘He lied’: Well that is the issue is it not. Gillard, one lie…and Alan Jones started a “she lied” on his program. Abbott, multiple lies. No comment. It says heaps about the role of the media in this country.

      Gonski: Education is one of the great levellers. If the schools of the rich are to have everything imaginable including one on one coaching then state schools deserve the same. If you want to talk about unfunded then have a close look at the budget for the same deal.

      Your post is what I would expect from you KSS. Full of the normal BS and lacking truth and for the most part facts.

      I do truly hope that voters remember who this government was after with its (caught out) lie of a “Budget Emergency” so it could justify putting taxes on anything which ordinary Australians require in their lives whilst at the same time giving the top end huge tax cuts. And I imagine you have not heard that the divide between rich and poor has been growing significantly for the past few decades. Of course the poor do not have Tax Havens. Nor do they have specialist accounts to get their taxable income (the only figure that matters) down to zilch.

      Let’s talk about the facts and who this government is governing for KSS. IT AIN’T WORKING AUSTRALIANS OR RETIREES!

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      What? No come back for Mr Shorten and his stitch up of working union members then?

      Talk about one-eyed desperation MICK. You set a very good example of that.

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      MICK, KSS is right!
      Labor have a black hole of $62b over a 4 year estimate. Labor are the high spenders and the high taxers.
      If we don’t brace ourselves and take a conservative approach we will find it much harder to get off the canvas. If we ever do. Is that what you want for your kids?

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      Try it on as you like government tag team.
      There is no response to the facts you choose to ignore. Never is other than your normal BS.
      I’ll tell you what: get the government to legislate for an INDEPENDENT FEDERAL ICAC with wide ranging powers to investigate ALL FRAUD and ALL CORRUPTION at the highest levels and I’ll accept any finding they make. Including union corruption. What do you say?
      Of course you will not go there will you?
      Many Australians can see that money is flowing from big business and the rich to the Liberal Party. And this is not fro free! Likely bribery and fraud. Let’s put it on the table boys to clear the air! What do you say??????

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      MICK, when you say ICAC it just cracks me up.

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      @ Mike, I think that the number of people denied further DSP payments shows that there were indeed some “rorters”. As to the sale of the Tasmanian dairy property, you might have mentioned that the owners were not Australians so the sale moved the property from one foreign owner to another.

      @ Tom Tank, your figures may be right about deficits and debt but perhaps you could have mentioned the Labor legislation that still is ongoing and the way the Senate blocked attempts to reduce the costs of many departments including the Climate Commission.

      @MICK, I apologise, I thought Abbott was a backbencher but it seems that this election will still be dependent on his honesty. As regards school funding, I agree that all schools should have the same facilities and to that end can I suggest that all schools should now charge each and every student the same fees as the private schools. And I can’t agree with voting Independent because unless you have a “hung” parliament an Independent is virtually useless. Normally they cannot get support for any legislation they propose and funds for infrastructure rarely make their way to an Independent’s electorate. I can’t begin to imagine a parliament where all of the members are Independent, which way would they vote and would there be any loyalty to support unpopular decisions?

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      As expected Frank.

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      It doesn’t matter which party wins. Interest rates are not going up nor investment returns. ROE is dropping for most companies, banks etc and so dividends will fall. Bonds are down, property down. We will be lucky to make 2.5% a year. Investment returns are down.

      As Bonny said it would have been nice if the government had not betrayed self funded retirees but they did betray them. All three major parties.

      AS far as I can see there is money for non savers and businesses but not for hard working savers on very ordinary wages.

      I’ll vote independents in future. Probably for whoever wants to cut the million extra immigrants every three years or so because we simply don’t have the water to support them.

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      Rae, I agree with your view on ROE dropping and if you look at the 10 and 15 year bond rates, they’re almost flat lining. All things considered I’m pleased the RBA has stepped in to try stopping the A$ from rising. Everyone could possibly feel betrayed by all politicians but these are very unusual circumstances. What annoys me is that we no longer have politicians with courage. They are all being bullied into cowardice by the media. They are all telling us what we want to hear and I find that dangerous.

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      We cannot escape the bigger world economy we live in Rae. And yes savers have been betrayed in favour of gamblers.

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      We cannot escape the bigger world economy we live in Rae. And yes savers have been betrayed in favour of gamblers.

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      Hey Bonny, which ‘diary’ sale? Tony Abbot’s memoirs? Bronwyn Bishop’s?

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      Mick if you got both pink batts and solar hot water subsidies you broke the rules. You could only have one or the other.

      Do you think I should tell ICAC?

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      Tell the ICAC about election funding = repeal of Carbon Tax, election funding = repeal of mining tax, election funding = no scrutiny on big banks.
      If all you have is pink batts and solar heaters you have nothing. They were not corruption at work. I might think that the above are, but we will never know because the relationship is a hidden and protected process.

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      Mick you should know that neither the mining tax or the carbon tax worked for their correct purpose.

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      Mick I stole a pen from one of the big banks today. Do you think I should give it back?

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      No need to steal a pen from the banks… they will GIVE them to you for nothing…. your act today has a rather Homer Simpson tang to it….

      “Whoo-hoo! Fooled ’em! Got me a free pen!”

      “Ahh, Mr Simpson… the banks are giving them away.”

      “D’OH!”

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      KSS, seems that your dog like loyalty to your party has led you to believe everything they say no matter how absurd.
      For a start pink bats, the responsibility for safety and quality of service in the workplace is always held by the contractor who employs the workforce not the government providing the subsidy.
      The school halls scheme, the procurement method normally employed in such purchases would normally take months and even then the job would not necessarily go to the cheapest bidder, things that would impact on the decision would include availability of the builder to start on the date required, demonstrated quality of work, demonstrated ability to complete similar sized projects, necessary company infrastructure, the list is endless.
      What people seem to ignore is the fact that the government was trying to provide immediate stimulus to the economy, to have followed the normal process would not have provided the stimulus quick enough and would even then probably not been much more cost effective.
      I don,t know about you but I wouldn’t like my kids sitting in a hall that was built by a builder selected for the sole reason that he provided the cheapest quote.

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      http://www.alp.org.au/

      http://greens.org.au/

      https://nxt.org.au/

      https://www.liberal.org.au/

      http://nationals.org.au/
      So we should all go and check out these sites, and weight up who should we vote for next. I won’t be voting Labor and i won’t be voting liberal either.
      We have to make up our minds soon.
      There’s lots of reading to do 🙂 chop chop ppls 🙂

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    It really doesn’t matter who wins it will be a Rabbit.
    How lucky we are Both Parties only have Rabbits all through there Ranks.
    Be carefull of Rabbits with Mixo and then there is Callicky virus ones.
    We are free of Foot and Mouth, but wait the election proccess has just started.
    No winners, we as always the looser.
    ;-(o)

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    Some words come to mind about the current government and its leader. Devious, cloak and dagger, smug, out-of-touch, favouring the rich.

    But of all these perhaps the worst is that they are so out-of-touch with everyday Australians that they are in danger of leaving the planet!

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    Last night i heard the treasurer saying stop thinking whats in this for me well i will when the politicians stop thinking whats in it for them they have all the lurks and perks that we only dream of funny how they can reduce business tax over the next ten years there for reducing billions or dollars revenue and we cant find two bob for our pensioners also sick and tired of hearing that there is a lot of baby boomers planning to retire or have already retired no one complained about the number of baby boomers when we were all paying our taxes and the people in power misspent the money or gave it away i will only vote for whoever will look after our pensioners also dont get to cocky Tunrbull

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      Well maybe you just shouldn’t vote because I can’t see any of them looking after the pensioners as there is no money left in the till for them.

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      Please do vote BJ. Just remember what this government has done to average Australians during the past few years…and vote accordingly!

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      If they lose the 25% of pensioners vote they’ll care Bonny. Whoever can get it will do very well. I hope it is the Mature Age Party. I’d like to see another spannner in the works. As far as no money in the kitty. Not true. Just another lie they’ve told you Bonny.

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      This government takes retirees for granted. It lives in the belief that older people will vote as they always have…and quite a few do. But there is change in the air too and this government has been on the nose since Abbott lied his way into power. Let’s hope that reasoning triumphs over propaganda on the TV this time around.

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      Rae, if 36% of pensioners live in poverty and will not vote for the Liberal Party, where did you get the figure of 25% from?
      Anyway, I believe there will be no landslide mandate for the Liberals this time round and I dread the thought of another hung Lower House parliament.The outcome for the Senate will be interesting to watch.

      A happy and prosperous country is one where the government creates the right balance between the rich and the poor.

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      Rae, if 36% of pensioners live in poverty and will not vote for the Liberal Party, where did you get the figure of 25% from?
      Anyway, I believe there will be no landslide mandate for the Liberals this time round and I dread the thought of another hung Lower House parliament.The outcome for the Senate will be interesting to watch.

      A happy and prosperous country is one where the government creates the right balance between the rich and the poor.

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      I look forward to a hung parliament… let the bastards work for their money and perks for a change.

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      I think a hung parliament would be the best outcome. We have a choice of appalling, thoroughly appalling, or totally disastrous. Not much of a choice. But anyone who supports this LNP is a stinking Neoliberal elitist who wants a return to feudal society conditions. Heaven help us all if this disgusting mob are re-elected. Destroy public health and education, wipe out the income of struggling retirees, and drive the poorest families further into poverty to give nearly $17000 to those on salaries of $1 million, tax cuts to anyone earning more than $80,000, and tax cuts to big multinational companies that send all their profits overseas? How can that NOT send the economy spiralling further downhill?

      But according to Bonny, it’s okay because it WON’T HURT HER. And it ONLY crucifies a few hundred thousand retirees. That makes it acceptable. Never mind fairness or economic wisdom, folks. All that matters is Bonny’s well-being. How utterly and disgustingly selfish!

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      HS I may be wrong but I believe I read that figure somewhere recently. It was all retirees though not only the welfare pensioners.

      36% of pensioners receiving the Government aged pension live in poverty but I was referring to all including self funded.

      Have just read the newsletter from my accountant and it could affect Bonny who happily runs a SMSF as I do believe, I’ll need to read it again and check, that lump sum withdrawal rules have been changed.

      It may suit us all to become self employed as there is an increase there in tax cuts from 5% to 10% and increasing over time to 16%.

      That sort of cut may just be better than super but we will have to start a little business and hire out our labour to get it.

      Transition to retirement has been affected and the nasty change is to the tax paid on superannuation by your spouse or kids if you die leaving money in your fund. Hmm.

      I could have misread the jargon but my accountant tends to be on the job and it is worth checking all this out if you have any money in super.

      As I’ve always said the sovereign risk for super is enormous.

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      Rae,

      Yes, there is a tax on money left in super when you die. I believe it was Costello who introduced the ”’death tax by stealth”. It does not apply to money left to your spouse or to other dependants, but certainly applies to money left to your adult children.

      ”Although superannuation death benefits are tax-free when paid to individuals considered ‘dependants under the tax laws’, a ‘death tax’ continues to apply when super monies are paid to individuals considered ‘non-dependants under the tax laws’.

      Refer to http://www.superguide.com.au/smsfs/beware-the-dastardly-death-tax for more detail.

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      Rae your statement of…… “36% of pensioners receiving the Government aged pension live in poverty but I was referring to all including self funded.”

      Given that the balance are homeowners, assuming that a homeowner is not living in poverty (if they are it is a personal choice), this 36% will be looking forward to an increase in their pension in January.
      I applaude Abbott for this move to rebalance the welfare bill and get the money into the hands of those who need it the most!
      Why give pensions to $millionaires while 36% of pensioners aren’t getting enough???

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      For once Q&A was worth watching. A lowly family man wiped the floor with the experts on the panel, most of whom were totally out of touch with pensioners and those on low incomes.

      Cassandra Goldie, introduced as the head of the Council of Social Services commented that the current government was cutting pensions, cutting welfare, reducing unemployment payments which had not in creased in decades, and transferring people from invalid pensions to unemployment benefits.

      Kelly O’Dwyer, Assistant Treasurer immediately demonstrated that she was suffering from the Joe Hockey syndrome, totally out of touch with people earning less than $80,000 a year, and argued that not increasing unemployment payments is not a cut.

      If unemployment benefits do not keep place with inflation, that is effectively an income cut which can do nothing other than to take welfare recipients deeper into poverty.

      The poor in this country are being severely disadvantaged by the fact that their parliamentary representatives have been wealthy for most, if not all of their lives. They would not have a hope of understanding the point made by the lowly paid worker that a $7000 per year tax cut for someone earning $80,000 per year would make an insignificant difference to his life style. The same cut to people on the minimum wage could be the difference between deciding whether or not the kids go to the pictures.

      The time has come when those on low incomes should be able to realistically aspire to enter the parliament, thereby ensuring that all sections of society have better representation than is currently the case.

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    “quietly confident” – just like the conman he is.

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    It’s got me beat who do you vote for .Wouldn’t vote Labour in a fit and the Libs have lost my confidence .The unemployed could have done with a boost they are well below the poverty line the pensioners also should have got a rise .The politician’s are in a world of their own they have no concept how ordinary people live .I always thought we should have paid out super into one pool that would cover everyone’s pensions and get ride of the means test on any other assets you have worked hard to accumulate that would stop people using super to minimise their taxes .There is no incentive to work hard

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      Vote for?
      Might as well toss a coin in the air, but first make sure there’s a string attached to it, can’t afford to lose that coin at this moment.

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      Pretty simple Joy. Do you want to see higher taxes on working Australians and more tax cuts for the wealthy or not? If the answer is yes to the above then God help us.

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      Joy it’s obvious you have never voted Labor as you can’t even spell it! At least be honest.
      Vote your Conservateves in as they will need every vote they can get.

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      Joy there is incentive to set up a self employed business as income tax off set is now 10% and will gradually increase to 16%.

      As the population ages I see a need for young service providers at reasonable prices to do those jobs about the house that are increasingly hard for the elderly.

      Even cooking and supplying a meal that beats meals on wheels, shopping, visiting a doctor, washing, changing sheets, cleaning, windows, gardening services etc. None of which requires much training but requires effort and motivation.

      This tax off set is incentive to young workers with an idea and the back bone to have a go with it.

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      What we need is fiscal responsibility which is more likely to come Liberal than Labor. But Liberals always favour the wealthy, a trend that has been followed by Labor in recent times, hence the ongoing transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.
      Politicians of all colours quickly adapt to a lifestyle where they enjoy a wonderful standard of living and no fears of unemployment thanks to the massive golden handshakes they receive if they get dumped by the electorate.
      A dose of reality in the form of fear of the dole queues in the event of a politician losing his seat would improve the performance of most of them but this won’t happen because they won’t allow it to happen.
      At the coming election I will not be following my usual policy of voting for the opposition but I will be attempting to ensure that the government does not control the senate. A senate under the control of the government is nothing better than a huge, expensive, useless rubber stamp, which is exactly what Malcolm wants.

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      maxchugg, instead of saying “But Liberals always favour the wealthy,” why not try Liberals always favour the employers and workers, because to do otherwise would be no good for Australia. It would be no good for welfare recipients as well.

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      Frank, ”Liberals always favour employers and workers” simply isn’t true, as demonstrated by the recent budget.

      A single parent WORKER on $60,000 is over $4000 worse off, while a someone $1 million a year (and please don’t tell me ANYONE who earns $1 million a year works hard!) gets at tax cut of almost $17000. The LNP robbed WORKERS who slogged their whole life to save a few bob for a decent retirement, after telling them for years to invest in super. And if they do have anything left when they die, thanks to the LNP, it will be heavily taxed.

      WORKERS who don’t earn high salaries are repeatedly screwed by the LNP, so please don’t give us this BS about them favouring workers. Employers – yes, IF the employer is well to do, and especially IF the employer wants to dodge tax obligations by profit shifting etc. Battling SMEs? Forget it. The LNP doesn’t even know what a small business is. Turncoat thinks small businesses have a $1 billion turnover!

      Favouring WORKERS would be very good for Australia. But the LNP doesn’t!

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      Rainey the latest poll has 60% of people saying their financial position is unchanged following the budget announcement while 7% believe they will be worse off.
      Among those worse off will be the superannuation members who have a balance over $1.6m. The additional tax will also be retrospective to 2007. There are more than 95,000 people affected.
      By the way, did you notice how during the Rudd / Gillard years big business flourished while small business suffered?

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      Frank. Please nominate one instance of a Liberal budget which has not favoured the wealthy over the poor.
      I agree that giving a slight advantage to employers is in the best interests of everyone, but what we have seen in the last few decades is a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.
      As for the latest poll producing the results you claim, it is currently meaningless because it will take a number of months before anyone is able to make a valid judgment of their new financial position until all of the flow on effects come into play.
      On the other hand, Rainey’s comments are based on known facts, our millionaire PM has looked after his wealthy mates with substantial tax cuts for them and practically nothing for everyone else.
      I repeat, if those on low to middle class incomes allow the Liberals to control the senate, they should expect a hard time until the next election when a Labor win will be assured.
      Finally, a reminder. I am, and always have been, a swinging voter.

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      Frank, the latest poll actually showed a whopping 93% of people said they would be worse off as a result of the budget. 6% said their position would be improved – and they are ALL high income earners.

      I would have thought it wouldn’t take a poll to determine what percentage would be worse off. You only have to look at the numbers in the budget. When you are giving $16000+ to $1 million pa. earners and taking $4000 from $60,000 a year families, it’s pretty damned obvious what the result will be. I mean, we all know there’s a hell of a lot more $60,000 a year families than $1 million a year earners. Well, maybe we don’t all know? Maybe the well-off are even more obtuse than we suspect.

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      Joy I don’t understand? You say the unemployed should be paid more to be unemployed. Then you go on to say there is no incentive to work? Are you asking for further disincentive to work?

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    I voted this government in. I am so disappointed in the way they treat the pensioners in that I will not vote for them again. Nor will I vote for the Labor party either. I know one of them will invariably be voted in. I will be voting for a Senior’s party and I hope my PROTEST vote will make the major parties realise that their numbers are well down this election. I hope others follow suit!

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      Thats what i intend to do Bletch and suggest others do the same stand up and show them we wont be pushed around

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      I just hope that remember the intention election lies from Abbott and who this government has come after whilst giving the already wealthy huge tax cuts the other night. I will be.

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      I agree voting for minors or independents is tempting, but be very careful to check where the preferences will go. You could be voting LNP by default.

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      A vote for an “Independent is a vote for Labor and the Unions.

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      Frank as only 13% of workers are represented by a union and most of those are public servants needing a middleman to deal with the government I do believe you are very wrong.

      If unionism was as strong as the media have us believe then wages wouldn’t be the stagnating mess they are right now and bosses would not be ripping workers off blithely left, right and centre.

      There would be no talk of penalty rate cuts either and skilled trades like car mechanics, hairdressers etc would pay more than the minimum wage.

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      You believe what you want Rae, it doesn’t change the facts.
      The Unions have their own political party.
      The Unions will make any deals with anyone to gain power as we saw with the loss of border control last time they were in government. Intentional or incompetence?
      I’ll let you work that one out.

      65% of preference votes go to Labor.

      You will need to explain to me please, the relationship and relevance in the size of union membership? I realise that membership has dropped from 40% of the workforce to close to your 13% during the last 20 years. Is there anyone not surprised by that?
      If you wish to turn the discussion to “the strength of the unions” then look no further than the $12m golden handshake to a union boss.
      The $20m donated to the Rudd and Gillard election campaigns.
      The $500,000 donated to the Greens.
      The $1.2m donated to GetUp.
      The Unions have increased fees to members in preparation for this election. It was the Keating government which started the decline in union membership by withdrawing from the collective bargaining process.

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      Exactly Frank. I don’t follow a political team. I’m afraid we live in difficult times.

      I’d like to see all three parties heaved out into the wilderness to get their act together. I know that isn’t possible and your team will probably win then we will see just how much better they make it for us all. I certainly won’t be holding my breathe though.

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      Rae, I don’t know that they’re my team.
      I am considering voting for ALA.
      They are strong in traditional Australian values and have a focus on small business, which is where I think Australia’s success lies.

      I am disappointed with Turnbull going retrospective to 2007 on his increased tax on high super balances. Not that it affects me. I don’t place that level of faith in something that changes so often and at the whim of a politician.
      My main concern is that Bill Shorten does not win this election. I will be very much afraid for the future of this country if Labor are returned while the economy is in such an early stage of it’s transitional period.

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    I would like to see a slap in the face for the government & opposition, & a rise in voting for Independants & minor parties. Sure, the government couldn’t function as we know it, but it might mean they wake up to the fact that we, the people, need to be represented, not just the self-appointed elite.

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      Well said. Just remember to ask who the candidate is preferencing. If the current government then pick another who does not preference the Turnbull government.

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      I intend to vote Independents as a matter of principle following the attempt to cut them out of the electoral process and install the absolute predominance of the major parties in the Senate as well as the House. I see no value or virtue in having a House and a Senate that can be dominated by the incumbent Party – what form of government is that other than a dictatorship?

      There is and never has been any absolute mandate vested in a party to do anything it wants when in power – they are bound by their promises and by decency and common sense – government is not a free-for-all – and destroying one of the checks and balances by reducing the Senate to major parties only is a move by a government that could rightly be suspected of seeking to impose tyranny on the people.

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      You are sending a message TREBOR. That is what AUstralians who refuse to be groomed should be doing.

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      We must put our faith in the Independants and hope they can control the political vampires who are systematically driving a good country into the ground.
      I will no longer be a mindless drone auomatically voting for one or the other of the so called major party’s.
      I intend to one of the King makers who actually makes their vote count.
      Vote for LNP or labor if you want but they are so close in all ways your vote will be cancelled out by someone voting for the so called other side, the voters who will make the difference will be those who vote Independant.

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      ex PS, No doubt you will find an Independent who preferences Labor. What is Labor’s plan to balance the budget,
      improve our balance of trade,
      strengthen the economy and create jobs?

      Only a union man would have thought of this one!

      Labor has as its spearhead policy, a panacea to cure our economic woes (which they created),

      Raise taxes and throw even more money at education and health.

      Yes that’s it! throw more money at Education and health!

      I don’t know how it will work, but I would imagine there would be more PS jobs and a trickle down to the unions.

      What exactly is it that the Public Service export?

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      Frank, you assume a lot don’t you? I invite you to go through all of my contributions and find one instance where I have exhorted people to vote Labor.
      I will in fact vote below the line, Labor will be second last and yes LNP will be last. This is because I don’t think either party has any plan that goes any further than how to win the next election, and I think that this will be the same plan either will have the day after they are elected.
      I believe in and have participated in Union activities all my working life and am and always will be proud of that. I do not support corruption by Unions or by Industries that may pay them bribes but I believe that the good Unions have done in the work place far outway the harm done by a fraction of the organisation.
      Your simplistic view of the Public Service would be laughable if it was not so tragic, but I don;t blame you, you are probably quoting directly from the LNP handbook.
      You talk about job creation, have you any idea how many of the jobs created by the LNP policy are full time and how many are part time designed to make the figures look good?
      As far as the Public Service exporting, try this, a major gas pipeline project from Queensland to PNG, TAFE organised a training plan so that PNG workers could participate in the construction, they put together the training packages, provided teachers who could go overseas and train locals to teach the locals how to work effectivley and safely and issued quality qualifications to those who passed. This has brought millions of dollars into the states coffers through the provision of training and by the sale of gas to the PNG government.
      As far as throwing money at health and education, if it needs it yes. And as far as raising taxs, I am not like you, I don’t believe in relying on government handouts, if we want the government to provide services we have to pay for them, that is what taxs are for, what I don’t believe in is the government taking taxs from hard workers so they can give them to people who earn $80,000 plus.
      Maybe you should pause and work out what it is you want to believe and what is true.

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    We’ve see the ad, “Mal, pick up the phone and call MyBuget for Australia’s sake”.

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    Liberals, Labor and the Greens all in it for themselves, absolute oxygen thieves. I’m sure if people all rose up and voted for the Independent parties, these greedy self serving creatures just may wake up and realise they work for us and it’s our money. I realise Liberal or Labor will still get in but maybe they will be more answerable, we can only hope. It is inconceivable just how removed from the ordinary Australian these weasels are and just how little they care, well we have the power to make them care at the ballot box.

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      Have a look at the Mature Australia Party. It may not win but it will reduce support for major parties and cause them to rethink.

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      Whoever you vote for margie I implore you to make sure that the preference of that candidate does not go to the LNP. Make sure you ask before you vote as I am aware that the Abbott and Turnbull governments seem to be running a few ‘Independents’ who are simply trojan horses funnelling votes to the LNP. Try not to get caught out on that one.

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      “I am aware that the Abbott and Turnbull governments seem to be running a few ‘Independents’ who are simply trojan horses funnelling votes to the LNP.” MICK, having made that statement,please back it up with some names. In other words, put up or shut up. Or are you too afraid of the libel laws?

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      Sight Impaired Freddy can see that they will be Running “Trojan Horses” in just about every seat ! 🙂 🙂

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      Let’s see where the preferences go Sceptic. We had an ‘Independent’ spruiking on this website a while ago. When I looked into that one he was ‘true believer’ liberal but refused to say where his preferences were going.
      I suggest that anybody who intends voting Independent to find out where the preferences are going. That way they know if the candidate is a liberal in wolf’s clothing or otherwise.

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      “AROOOOOOOW !”

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      Labor gets 65% of preferences so the odds of an Independent giving preferences to the LNP are minimal. MICK could be right though. I suggest waiting for the next full moon before making a decision.

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      And a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush…..

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      “AROOOOOOOW !”

      Werewolves of Cambra….

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      Some honesty in Politics and some Law, Wouldn’t go astray in this Country now !! All politicians should have their No1 Preference on their Propaganda Leaflet at the Polling Stations ! And if that Preference is Violated All their Votes will be Cancelled ! Stop the Outright Deliberate Lying Now !! 🙁

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