Unfairness in reinstatement of Pensioner Concession Cards

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While 93,000 pensioners will see their Pensioner Concession Cards reinstated in October, there are some who, due to the timing of when they lost their Age Pension, won’t. David is one such pensioner who is so incensed, he decided to contact Human Services Minister Alan Tudge to voice his displeasure and request an explanation.

Here’s what David had to say – do you agree?

“The Hon Alan Tudge MP,

I received a phone call today from your department in reply to an email I sent on Friday regarding the Pensioner Concession Card. The explanation I received was very confusing.

The conversation I had was, the pensioners who lost the Pension Concession Card on the 1 January 2017 would have it reinstated on the 9 October 2017, and exempted from an assets and income test.

I understand this will only happen if the legislation is passed. The bit I didn’t understand was, that pensioners who lost or will lose the pension from the 2 January 2017 due to a change in circumstances will not receive the concession card.

Is this correct, and if so, how is this fair? This means a pensioner who could have more than  $150,000.00 over the threshold on 1 January 2017 will have the card reinstated. But a pensioner who from 2 January may exceed the threshold by, let us say  $15,000, would lose the card. This does not make any sense.

I hope this inquiry can be answered in writing to the satisfaction of all pensioners that are going to read this reply, especially those who may be affected by it.

Please advise me if my request has not been clearly understood.”

What are your thoughts? Will you also miss out on having your Pensioner Concession Card reinstated?

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    This is sooooooooo unfair, how can this be explained !!

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      Easily explained: this government has pensioners and self funded retirees in their sights, so don’t expect any favours, or fairness.

      I wonder why they have decided to punish us all for saving up so we can spend it on services and keep people employed when we retire thus both freeing up and creating jobs?

      I also wonder why the Liberal and Nationals have decided that the support of this section of the voting public is not considered necessary. I thought they were a major part of their vote count. They have certainly lost a huge number of supporters, and the latest stats tell us that we are increasing in number. Amazingly stupid!

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      They probably think we’ll all starve to death before the next election so they don’t need to worry about us voting against them.

      They have a very big shock coming their way

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      AutumnOz big shock? We are a huge baby boomer problem. No party is going to go out of their way to help us.

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      to Janus…you’re right. This government has and will lose voter support, especially from age pensioners, because of they way they’ve been treated by the LNP government. Especially due to the change in the assets test, after Abbott made solemn promises at the 2013 election that there would be no such changes. They’re a bunch of lying mongrels, and the pensioners will rise up and trounce this govt at the next election, and good riddance to them.
      But Labor isn’t any different.Shorten won’t restore the assets test, and the only way Labor will win is if they get ride of Shorten, and replace him with someone with more nous, such as Tony Burke.

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      It appears the LNP desire to lose the next election and are working very hard to make sure that Australia is wrecked before they go.
      When you look at what they are doing nothing else makes any sense.

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      You got that right Rae. Nothing else does make sense.

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    I would not waste the email voltage on sending anything to the Minister of Pensioner Punishing.

    Just go straight to your local member of federal parliament, and deliver your abuse/complaint personally. Very satisfying, especially when you explain the rule of sevens (every complainer tells another seven people, on average), and that us older folk know how to vote.

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    The reason the LNP get away with treating the vulnerable in our society so unfairly, is the great Australian disease: Terminal Apathy!!

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    Your circumstances changed (your words) and you are clearly no longer entitled to the card.

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      Circumstances apparently, or should that read allegedly, changed.

      People are supposed to update their details with Centrelink but as far as I can tell there is no obligation on the part of Centrelink to take note of the updates, if there was there would not have been so many people treated unfairly last January and March, not to mention the months previously to them.

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    I agree with David same thing has happened to us, we only went over by a tiny amount in the review in March. If 93,000 lost their pension then it cannot be a huge amount that tipped over in March review, seems mighty petty to me

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    I know for a fact the information that C.Link used on Jan 1 2017 to check on our assets was not correct due to the fact we were told that C.Link would do the check and no input was required from us.There is a good chance this would apply to many others.I would urge all others effected they should lodge a protest as you are allowed.The whole mess should be cancelled and corrected. The ball is in your court so show some guts like David ,well done.

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    KSS we know what you are up to but I guess that is the way you were bought up. Sad really.

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    Of course it is, but at what stage do you think Politicuans worry about fairness?

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      During an election campaign, then all the spin and lies get a good workout. Change will never ever happen if the majority of people continue voting for more of the same.

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    Anyone who lost their pension card and had a reduction in the part Age Pension needs to get a list of the assets Centrelink has credited to you.

    A few weeks ago I got a printout from Crentrelink and I discovered some of the assets had been entered twice, mainly when I had seen someone in the local office to update my details, instead of updating the items they had been listed twice leading to a very mistaken amount of assets credited to me.

    You need to keep an eye on all payments from Centrelink as you cannot see what they have credited you with at their office.

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      I was just going to write a similar post to AutumnOz’s one. You need to check your assets and their total against the total showing in the pension advice email or letter they send you. I had blithely accepted the total as being correct as all the assets listed were correct until at some stage last year I happened to add them up and found the total they listed was greater than the actual total and therefore the pension paid to me was far less than it should have been. I don’t know how long that has gone on for. I’m still waiting for back pay. Then they resurrected an old, matured term deposit to list that in to my assets! So the total appears to be correct and of course is is not the correct total for me so my pension continues to be less than it should be. It really makes me wonder as to how many others actually have incorrect totals. What really amazed me in the first place was that their total could be different to the total of all the listed assets – one would expect that a computer program would add the assets as listed correctly.

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      Alexii maybe they added their Tip!!!!. Jokes aside, yes I always add up the assets listed (verify them against my records)and compare with the actual total they come up with. You can never be too careful.

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      You know the couple of kids in your school class that always knew everything and were total pains. They are in charge now and as you’ll recall they never could do anything right while believing everything they did was perfect. Expecting a Government in this much debt to be able to count correctly is expecting a bit too much apparently.

      If your assets are anything like mine then they are worth far less today than three months ago thanks to this worthless bunch.

      Australian shares and property are falling quite substantially.

      I haven’t actually ever dealt with Centrelink and am grateful. It seems that they just make stuff up as they go along.

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    You’re quite incensed about this seeming unfairness, David, and rightly so, especially when one sees would-be economic queue jumping immigrants up on Manus Island receiving $37.000 each for perceived hardship after they trashed their accommodation. However in life there are always winners and losers! Those who lost their Pension Concession Cards on January 1 last following the new asset and income test were very unhappy. Now with the prospect of regaining the PCC status in October they are happy again. In these matters Centrelink must have boundaries and unfortunately you did not meet their criteria. So what can you do? As far as I can see the only solution if you want to regain your PCC is to spend any excess money and reapply. Best of luck.

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      Isn’t it a crazy system that encourages pensioners or part pensioners to spend their money on things such as holidays – and those holidays could be overseas ones, travel on foreign ones airlines and ships so the pensioners money goes to foreign interests rather than to here in Australia. Just so long as you do the trip with no more than 42 days outside Australia. So a 30 day cruise around the Pacific?

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      No, Travelling Man. The advice to write to politicians and visit your local MP (if the local rep is LNP) to object to this unfairness and declare that you are campaigning with others dealt unfair blows to ENSURE THE BASTARDS ARE VOTED OUT is the correct response. And while telling them, also make the point that the idiots have created a situation where it’s unwise to save much for retirement and better to spend up big on a fancy house or a lovely world cruise, as the ”Sweet Spot” article points out, so STUPID policy is driving the deficit up. If the LNP want to wreck the nation, they are doing a great job. Tell them that, and tell them why. And tell them they will NEVER EVER EVER get your vote again unless they reverse ALL their attacks on retirees and start treating our generation with respect.

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