The Bob Day bombshell and Senator Culleton’s ‘dark cloud’

Australia’s Upper House is in chaos after a day of shock revelations.

The Bob Day bombshell and Senator Culleton’s ‘dark cloud’

Australia’s Upper House is in chaos, with Senator Bob Day’s resignation and Senator Rod Culleton’s eligibility in question and both cases being referred to the High Court for adjudication.

The Bob Day bombshell
After tendering his resignation yesterday, the Upper House is reeling after it was revealed that Senator Bob Day may have been illegally voting in Parliament for more than two years.

Bob Day’s problems stem from a constitutional point that says an election candidate cannot have any pecuniary interest in the Commonwealth. The Family First MP had his electorate office in a building which was owned by a company to which he was linked. So, in effect, he was earning salary from taxpayers as well as collecting rent from them.

The former senator’s financial fiasco may well be putting Government legislation at risk, which is especially troubling when he has supported the Government in 95 per cent of votes in the Senate.

The Bob Day drama also shines a light on the spat between Attorney General George Brandis and the recently departed former Solicitor General Justin Gleeson who warned Mr Brandis of Bob Day’s issues and questioned the composition of the Senate.

As of next week, for the remaining three weeks of sittings, the Upper House will have 75 sitting Senators, instead of 76. But that is the least of our problems. The big issue is what to do next.

The High Court sitting as Court of Disputed Returns could recount the South Australian vote from the last Federal Election to find a replacement, or the South Australian Parliament could appoint a replacement.

Labor Senate Leader Penny Wong is all for the former option.

“If he was not (legally elected), Mr Day’s resignation would not create a casual vacancy because he was never validly elected in the first place,” said Senator Wong. “Precedent suggests the appropriate method for replacing Mr Day in the Senate would therefore be through a recount of the SA Senate vote rather than through the SA Parliament appointing a replacement.”

Labor is currently seeking legal advice on the matter.

Read more at The Age

Senator Culleton’s dark cloud
The Bob Day bombshell preceded allegations about One Nation Senator Rod Culleton’s eligibility for election on 2 July.

The Senate has been asked to consider challenging Senator Culleton’s election, after he pleaded guilty to larceny in a New South Wales court earlier this year.

The Western Australian Senator was charged with stealing a $7.50 key to a tow truck that, at the time, was removing his leased vehicle. Although the conviction was annulled in August, that was after his election on 2 July.

Former Solicitor-General Justin Gleeson was again consulted for advice on the matter and he suggested that Mr Culleton's eligibility be tested in the High Court.

Senator Culleton, who spoke at a press conference in Perth yesterday, played down the charges, saying, "Just because I turn around and say that I took a key, it's no different to taking a scone off someone's plate."

Senator Culleton could also be disqualified from the Senate if he is found to be personally responsible for the debts of his company Elite Grains, which is being liquidated with debts of $6 million. Under the constitution, a senator can be dismissed if he/she is found to be bankrupt or insolvent.

The High Court is being asked to rule on whether Bob Day was eligible to stand on 2 July and is now being called upon to rule on whether it was appropriate for Senator Culleton to stand.

Senator Culleton sent word to George Brandis saying that he would refrain from voting on any legislation until the High Court ruling on his eligibility.

The so-called ‘dark cloud’ that hangs over Senator Culleton’s head also hangs over the Government, with Labor only two crossbench votes shy of controlling Senate voting for the rest of the year.

Read more at www.abc.net.au

Do you think this is just a storm in a teacup? Does the credibility of these two politicians worry you? What, if anything, can be done to test the trustworthiness and integrity of our politicians and candidates putting themselves forward for election?

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    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    10:31am
    Isn't it strange that the Electoral Commission did not check out candidates a bit better BEFORE the election.
    What we now have is the government trying to gain control of the senate by removing any senator who is not a coalition member. In all fairness Day was an ex Liberal and pretty well a stooge making up the numbers anyway so it is unsure why they have gone after him unless he did not support the union attack Bill. Either way this is a bad bad crew who have done nothing other than wreak havoc on the country since Abbott was elected and it does not look like this will change going forward other than some of the faces.
    We need (another) election.
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:12am
    Given the size of the Senate ballot paper, asking the Electoral Commission to check out candidates before the election is a bit much.

    I'd put the onus back on the candidates. Tell them THEY must find out the rules. If they get elected and are found to have broken ANY of them, they lose their seat.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:40am
    Police record and court proceedings would not be that difficult methinks. But then we have a whole raft of unaccountable watchdogs who refuse to do what they were set up to do so no surprise that bad eggs get through the political process.
    HarrysOpinion
    3rd Nov 2016
    12:14pm
    EC had 60 days to run all the essential checks on all candidates no matter how many there were listed on the ballot. The checks are not "bit much" they are essential. Imagine, giving a gun licence to a person and not conducting the essential checks because it was "bit too much" for the number of applicants. Very irresponsible and negligent!
    Speaking of neglect when will EC run psychopath and sociopath tests on all political party candidates, including its own employees and volunteers?
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:59pm
    I agree MICK that all candidates must be checked out before an election. Nominations close in enough time to have police checks and Embassy checks for those who are suspected of being dual nationals. If a candidate is found to have breached the rules, let the election process continue but remove all votes and preferences from that candidate.

    I believe Brandis has started the inquiry into Day at the request of Labor. I don't think he had much of a say in the matter. I also think that the parties must do probity checks as well because a casual vacancy may not be ruled when a disgraced senator leaves. This would mean that the party may not automatically get a replacement of their choice.

    Barak, isn't that is exactly what is now happening? Day has moved on and investigations into Culleton are continuing? If Culleton is found to have breached the rules, he's out.
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    4:01pm
    I agree HS but I wonder if the EC took a punt and only checked those they thought would get elected. One Nation's success was not predicted by anybody.
    ex PS
    4th Nov 2016
    5:46pm
    Strange, if you want to work with children or the elderly, you have to satisfy the employers that you have no criminal record or impending legal actions. But if you are making decisions that could impact on Australian voters we jut take your word.
    Do politicians really understand the people who they work for and are paid by?
    We really should have the right to sack employees that are not up to the job.
    john
    3rd Nov 2016
    10:39am
    Day is the main problem for the government.
    The one nation bloke , if he goes , another one nation person can just jump into his spot.
    Unless there's more to it than just pinching a key?
    I think that maybe we will have no choice but to have another election, because we have a rabble leading the country now. Making shocking mistakes , and a Prime Minister beholden to his crazy right wing side of his party. And on top of that the man seems to have no gumption , and if looking foolish in some areas trying to mix it with the public is a smart idea , then he is nearly over running Abbott in the dill stakes!
    TwainAndHume
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:17am
    Agree ... a real shambolic government that is going to hobble the country for the length of its tenure, no matter how long or short that may be ....
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:26am
    Malcolm sold all his gumption to the hard-core, conservative Catholic right wing of his party, just so he could become PM.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:41am
    Day also has another senator in waiting as he is part of a minor party.
    mogo51
    3rd Nov 2016
    1:10pm
    John,
    Agree with much of what you say about the incumbent Government, but the alternative worries me even more.
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    4:02pm
    MICK, maybe not. It depends on the High Court ruling on Day.

    3rd Nov 2016
    11:14am
    This reminds me a little of the latter days of the Whitlam government. He lost control of the Senate, though in his case it all done by the Opposition, somewhat unethically, many would argue. In this case, it's the LNP's "friends" who are stuffing up,
    Oliva
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:28am
    What a shamozzle. But then-its our fault. We got the Government we deserve. We are stupid, ill-informed and very easily hood-winked. We don't research the issues. We don't research the candidates either before we give them the big tick at the voting booth. Stupid People get stupid Government.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:44am
    That is about right Oliva.
    Fast forward America with people who are going to vote for Trump. It should come as no surprise that our brain dead voters are also too stupid to understand what they are doing, preferring instead to listen to media distortions and be groomed. We will all get what some of us do not deserve but what is inflicted onto us by the disinterested majority. People are such sheep.
    grounded
    3rd Nov 2016
    12:26pm
    How did Australian's get the Government 'we deserved'. Libs have their 'mad right wingers', Labor has its' predominantly sized left wing contingent...'Marxist commo's in training'.

    I'd say either party is pretty much equally positioned....This is not the fault of the people....more the two sleazy political entity as we truly know them...garbage!

    Throw in a few lunatics and former Communist Party of Australia devotees from the Looney Greens and a broken down Melbourne Shock Jock...and we have a Legislative Assembly that no one deserves.

    Democracy gave us this garbage....Isn't democracy a wonderful thing! The people do a fantastic job sorting this garbage out...into something resembling a Government. The people are to be praised for their discernment.

    Political hacks are such sheep!
    KSS
    3rd Nov 2016
    1:26pm
    You do not speak for me Olivia nor do you Mick!
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:02pm
    grounded: the issue is that voters are conned and groomed by political advertising and by the best liars on the planet. Worse than that is most people know they are lying and vote for them anyway. So what is the definition of a rusted on?

    The solution is to smash the game by voting down both sides to the extent that they are badly weakened and begin to understand that voters are in charge, not big business who makes political donations and then wait for their pay offs.

    I was quite surprised when last night SBS interviewed people in Ohio and asked if they were voting for Trump. One made the correct call and pretty well said what I said above finishing with "I have found a good Independent and I will be voting for him". That told me that there was at least 1 American who was not brain dead. Not too sure about our own countrymen though.
    We will indeed get what we deserve as a nation (either way) and I can only hope that those of us who are being so badly done over will think twice before they fill out the next ballot form. We'll see.
    grounded
    3rd Nov 2016
    4:00pm
    @ Mick....See, there you again Mick. I disagree with you...then I agree with you...Love you, then hate you....but you still come across as one sided partisan in your general commentary.

    Turnbull is no better or worse than Shorten, and vice versa, as goes for both of their respective parties. It is simply the name of the game that the power brokers; on both sides, feed to their sheep.

    Truthfully, there is no answer for it. Rusted on ideology will always produce garbage representatives within our Legislative chambers...that is just a fact of life....We should have learnt to live with it by now....because overall this isn't to bad a country...still!

    As for Independents....I really don't know....can you imagine what a Chamber full of; 500 odd, Hansons, Exonphones, Hinches, Palmers and that illiterate scrag from Tasmania etc., would be like. Pure chaos....absolutely NOTHING would get done.

    I personally think we have more than enough Independents than the country can currently manage....live with.

    More to the truth, is that the sheep need to start bleating real hard at their representatives - not only on polling day....rather than at each other...but then again, sheep are normally very apathetic. Snafu!

    Have yourself a nice one Mick.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    5:14pm
    grounded: Einstein once said that he was amazed that people kept doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Politics is not different. Rusted ons aside why do we expect dramatic changes when both sides are bad? Won't happen until the day they BOTH get their marching orders.
    grounded
    3rd Nov 2016
    9:59pm
    I can't.....could never argue with that....
    Linda
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:32am
    It seems the Libs and perhaps the Nats are the sort of people who really dislike the fine print, they seem to like the over view, the general gist of an idea but are very low on details that make are break what ever they decide to try next. I feel weary to think of the big pays they get, supposedly to run the country, instead they appear lazy, owing favors to big donations, and a penchant to hide the truth by hook or crook. We should never forget they work for the Australian people and as such should be accountable. Brandis, it is time to go. You have proven yourself to be an inappropriate person in terms of character for the role you weaseled your way into. My guess is on the back bench there are some more left leaning folks who will never get a chance to show their talents because of the strangle hold of far right creeps running the show because they have the numbers. Yuck, a pox on your houses.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:47am
    "We should never forget they work for the Australian people....". Well that is the twist Linda. When you accept large donations you are not working for the people and when you lie act corruptly you think that you are God.
    All of the above is why this government needs to go and why even rusted on Liberals need to vote most of the front bench into retirement.
    We need (another) election.
    Linda
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:34am
    I would love to see some proof that the libs are a broad church in terms of the composition of the cabinet. It is not there, while some brag about it!!
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:03pm
    No "church" at all as they are about as dishonest and corrupt a group of people you would ever see outside of a Mafia AGM.
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    4:12pm
    MICK, please support your accusations of dishonesty and corruption with some facts. Name some names at least. I feel you make a fool of yourself by making wild accusations when a lot of your posts make sense, even if I don't always agree with them. I don't think you need to descend to such gutter tactics.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    5:17pm
    Not gutter tactics at all. Many pollies are liars and it is clear with both the Abbott and Turnbull crew that the truth is not within pretty well any of the front bench. Latest cab off the rank: George Brandis. A lying cretin caught out repeatedly.
    Retired
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:57am
    The Senate is in CHAOS and Australians think American Politics in CHAOS.
    Malcolm Roberts was elected with 77 first preference votes... this is why we have CHAOS.
    The government told us before the election that being elected with only 77 votes was ridiculous and we needed a double dissolution to rectify the situation.
    The Chaos continues unabated !!!!
    wally
    3rd Nov 2016
    2:23pm
    Like they say on Survivor, the "Tribe has Spoken". There are enough people in the electorate that think that just about anybody else could run Australia better than the ALP and /or the LNP these days. Thus we have the electoral result that was served up due to the recent double dissolution.
    wally
    3rd Nov 2016
    2:23pm
    Like they say on Survivor, the "Tribe has Spoken". There are enough people in the electorate that think that just about anybody else could run Australia better than the ALP and /or the LNP these days. Thus we have the electoral result that was served up due to the recent double dissolution.
    wally
    3rd Nov 2016
    2:23pm
    Like they say on Survivor, the "Tribe has Spoken". There are enough people in the electorate that think that just about anybody else could run Australia better than the ALP and /or the LNP these days. Thus we have the electoral result that was served up due to the recent double dissolution.
    wally
    3rd Nov 2016
    2:23pm
    Like they say on Survivor, the "Tribe has Spoken". There are enough people in the electorate that think that just about anybody else could run Australia better than the ALP and /or the LNP these days. Thus we have the electoral result that was served up due to the recent double dissolution.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:05pm
    Not too sure about that Retired. The voting was changed for the senate so that voters elected who they were giving their second and third preferences to so it should be legit as the deals are off in the Upper House....as they always should have been.
    Anonymous
    3rd Nov 2016
    4:21pm
    What you have done Retired is to use quite legitimate numbers and then quote them out of context. The proper context is that we were allowed to either vote above the line for a party or below the line for an individual. One Nation attracted the 3rd highest vote in Queensland behind LNP and Labor with the Greens coming 4th. That's the main reason that Roberts is there.
    lauren
    3rd Nov 2016
    12:14pm
    "CANBERRA IS SPIRALLING INTO CHAOS. SHOCK REVELATIONS' really!!, emotive language really gets people going, huh! Shock, horror, Oh! well! it gives them something new to talk about in the media, after all, real news we never hear anymore. I'm sure Canberra will survive and so will our Parliament.
    Gordon
    3rd Nov 2016
    12:20pm
    Obvious I know, but its disappointing the Senator Day knew it was not legal to rent an electoral office from his own company, but persisted with it anyway. He was eventually allowed to by a minister against the advice of the department - why did the minister allow it?...perhaps he should be accountable as well. The name Family First sounds like they are supposed to behave with higher standards??
    Julian
    3rd Nov 2016
    12:49pm
    Yet another politician caught doing the wrong thing...yawn
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:05pm
    They sound like footballers.
    ex PS
    4th Nov 2016
    5:50pm
    Yes, but footballers are required to get results to keep their jobs, these no hoppers aren't even required to attend parliament on a regular basis.
    micky d.
    3rd Nov 2016
    1:16pm
    Talk of NIT-PICKING !!!!!!
    Senators Day & Culleton being pilloried...flayed...burnt at the stake...(the most minor technical reasons being proffered) whilst the affairs of our whole nation remains paralysed with legislation bogged down.
    When we are reduced to this , we should take a very long, hard look at ourselves.
    Are we really reduced to becoming a nation of NIT-PICKERS?
    KSS
    3rd Nov 2016
    1:30pm
    Apparently so micky d. Far too many people with far too much time on their hands and a holier-than-thou attitude.
    Rae
    3rd Nov 2016
    2:21pm
    That is indeed what it has come to.

    The whole lot of them should be tossed out in my opinion and a few decent administrators appointed to sort out the mess. A bit like what Baird did with local governments.

    Then we could have another election but with no party politics involved and no donations of any kind. Or sponsorships or any other corrupting payments of cash or kind.

    Politicians are paid enough in retirement to be refused work with related parties after politics as well.

    There is too much corruption and it need weeding out in my opinion.

    As to being pilloried my daughter has muttered about heads on pikes a few times as her wage stagnates and I hope they can fix it up before it comes to all out war between haves and have nots because there are far too many have nots and these things get very bloody pretty fast historically speaking and we may appear to be civilised but when you look at the bullying of disadvantaged going on we really aren't that fabulous at all as a species.

    Too much time and holier-than-thou attitudes have caused real chaos a time or two before. I keep seeing the homeless numbers rising and a lot look young and well educated and hungry and that is always very dangerous.

    This government needs to pull it's socks up and sort out the mess before one of those Lenin or Mao type leaders emerges into a leadership vacuum.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:07pm
    Pretty right mickey.
    I liked the response from Day demanding that ALL other MPs who have contractual arrangements with the Commonwealth are named. I bet anything you like Day is not alone here...and he probably already knows some of the other culprits. This is still playing out.
    Rae
    3rd Nov 2016
    3:16pm
    MICK I wonder if that would include all the pollies paying themselves or their wives rent for family properties during sitting nights. If so Hockey comes to mind. Or is it only the Senators that are constrained?
    Chris B T
    3rd Nov 2016
    5:00pm
    My Thoughts the same Rae with "Bob Day’s problems stem from a constitutional point that says an election candidate cannot have any pecuniary interest in the Commonwealth."
    That's why the Rules to Rental allowance need to be checked as well.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    5:19pm
    I'm sure there are more than a few rats in the ranks doing exactly the same as Day. Day has put the cat amongst the pigeons so let's see if the media take the bait and run. It will be interesting what is uncovered. There would likely be a lot.
    Eddy
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:34pm
    Sorry Micky D, can't disagree more, it is not nit-picking to uphold our constitution. It has happened before. I seem to recall a MP/senator being ruled ineligible to sit because he held dual citizenships, one Australian and the other British. In another case a senator who was receiving a defence service pension was challenged, only to have the high court rule in his favour.
    In Sen Day's case he either knew, or should have known, that renting electoral office space from himself was contrary to the constitution. It would be interesting to find out Sen Day rented that office space to another member, would that be contrary to the constitution.
    In Sen Culleton case, I expect the senate nomination form (I have never seen one of course) would have a question regarding prior criminal convictions as the nomination form would be the basis for Electoral Commission vetting of nominees. The EC would assume that all nominees are truthful. I am sure Sen Hinch would have revealed all his criminal past.
    ex PS
    4th Nov 2016
    5:54pm
    Really mickey d, nit picking, if you lied to an employer about your history would you expect to keep your job? Not nit picking, just an expectation of honesty and integrity. is it really too much to ask?
    We pay these people to work for us, we should be able to expect a minimum of honesty.
    Rae
    3rd Nov 2016
    4:13pm
    This isn't a storm in a tea cup but goes to the heart of our Constitution.

    It may very well prove that political parties are in breach of the legislation as they all receive benefits from third party sponsors and beneficiaries of privatisations.

    The fact that Senator Day took benefits from privatised sales suggests to me that rather than a Royal Commission into banks we need one into the privatisation of public assets, who took money off the table, how much and who now works for corporations that were sold public assets at fire-sale prices.

    The corruption started decades ago and is starting to be dredged up.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    10:12pm
    Fair call. There is a lot of dirt out there which only comes out when the mates agreement comes to an end and the boot goes in.
    I would like to see the media expose many of our current sitting MPs for their own breaches rather than the rats in the ranks using this out when they have a falling out.

    3rd Nov 2016
    4:34pm
    Why are we surprised that a politician has been caught doing the wrong thing? It would be fitting if all of the misdemeanours that have been caught out over the years could be listed. Getting a daily allowance when not in Canberra but away skiing, using a helicopter instead of driving less than 100km, getting a wad of electoral donations but only remembering 8 years later just before a Royal Commission, splitting travel vouchers up to try and hide a trip that wasn't acceptable and the list goes on. Then we have the "legal" rorts where a plane was used to attend a staffer's wedding and covered by announcing funding for that area. (The fact that the same announcement had been made some 18 months before was obviously not good enough).

    My point is that it seems that the fox is in charge of the henhouse as the oversight committee or group are all public servants or politicians. It's about time that totally independent, qualified people are used to check all claims immediately. If a politician wants to use planes, helicopters, Comcars or any other form of transport paid by the taxpayer and then attend a private function, reimbursement on a pro rata basis must be made.
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    10:13pm
    Maybe news laws sending offending MPs to prison are in order...but who is going to pass that law.
    Gee Whiz
    3rd Nov 2016
    5:04pm
    Are these blokes crooks?

    And if they are how do you tell them apart from the rest of the sleazebag criminals in parliament?
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    10:13pm
    They wear suits?

    3rd Nov 2016
    5:29pm
    and labor mick wants us to vote for the independents and then when those independents get found out labor mick and his hangers-on blame the liberal government, micky you can't have it both ways, the TRUTH is the independents can only blame themselves for any mistakes they make and it is now up to your beloved labor party to start assisting parliament with making this once beautiful country great again instead of undermining any attemp to do so
    Rae
    3rd Nov 2016
    6:00pm
    Fair comment heemskerk99.

    Seems like everyone is desperate these days to make the money because the alternative s not nice.

    I know I work pretty hard at it.

    I blame neo liberal ideology and writers like Rand and Hayek.

    It's dog eat dog and you'd better keep up.

    Certainly no way to survive as a community.

    You know the Aboriginal young hunters offered the very best bits of the kill to the elderly and in the bad times the elderly paid back the tribe by staying behind so as not to burden.

    The cult of the Individual is not going so well is it?
    MICK
    3rd Nov 2016
    10:20pm
    Here you are sleezekerk defending your party again. The party which takes many millions of dollars in donations and then betrays the nation on a monumental scale as the payback with policy starts the feeding frenzy. And you demonise Independents????
    The reality is that Independents are sought out because this government in particular wants to rid itself of the cross bench.
    Good luck with your trolling. Readers know that there are far more rotten apples in the ranks of both major parties than will ever be found amongst Independents.
    Whilst you are at it dear troll put it to Turnbull and Shorten to provide details of how many of their own have contracts with the Commonwealth. Old Man (above) pretty well covered some of the rorts which go on unreported. There are many more and Bob Day is I might suggest the tip of a very large iceberg.
    ex PS
    4th Nov 2016
    5:58pm
    Mick, I don't bother to even read spermsquirts comments any more, I have found that I much calmer for not giving his comments oxygen, you should try it.
    Not Senile Yet!
    3rd Nov 2016
    11:10pm
    Why does any Moron Vote for a Part Puppet?
    They are owned by the Party....bought and paid for....swear to do as the Party Caucus tells them to do!
    They never question anything and never disagree with Party Policy....or they loose their pre-selection next time round!
    Time to Vote all of the Corrupt Bast..ds OUT!
    SACK THEM ALL...BY SIMPLY NOT VOTING FOR ANY OF THEM!
    Just love the idea of a massive swing to Independants.....so we can see the look on all the Party Puppets faces....when they loose their seats.....which means they are SACKED!

    4th Nov 2016
    12:10am
    This particular Liberal Govt, is a total joke and a prize CLOWN act!

    If the previous govt. so much as sneezed they were subjected to months of foreign corp media frenzy of negativity.

    The only reason we are hearing anything is because of the Sydney Morning Herald who seem to be outdoing the Guardian and certainly the ABC. The SMH seems to put REAL investigative journalism and media ethics before their personal allegiances which is pretty amazing!

    Back to THIS government.

    Come on people, it is totally embarrassing, they are a 'useless waste of space' group of greedy, corrupt, grossly incompetent DUMB FOOLS.

    I agree with those that state that people who voted for these GREEDY DUMB FOOLS (who can't seem to take their snouts out of the TROUGH long enough to actually govern this country) are the ones to blame for this theatrical travesty.

    The signs were there well before the election, irrespective of the propaganda spewed forth by FOREIGN corporate interests but it is those people who vote for a political party as if it is a 'football' team that are the main problem. It is NOT a football team, that you barrack for irrespective of whether they are good or not and stick up for them against all odds.

    This mob of MISFITS still don't have adequately detailed POLICIES, even after (over) three years, unless of course it is sufficient to simply follow the "USA NEO CON corporatocracy economic plan and obey the instructions given to them by big foreign bankers megacorps" which is essentially to GIVE govt money and assets, to BIG foreign BANKERS and CORPORATIONS and NOT to provide any services or benefits to the people AND screw small and medium businesses and the people who pay the most in taxes!

    THAT went well in the USA, yes!...... the greed of the 1% under this system (who are legally untouchable) brought this once mighty nation to its knees....MORE than the whole population of Australia OUT of WORK; small and medium businesses FAILING; POVERTY everywhere; SLUMS growing exponentially; VIOLENT CRIME a daily occurrence; and DRUGS out of control..... whilst the top 5% earning more money than the Australian Government and not paying any taxes. Yeah! sounds good for Australia, aye!

    So.... those that voted for these misfits have voted to turn AUSTRALIA into a CESSPIT of economic deterioration and the sell off of all our ASSETS and GOVT SERVICES to FOREIGN MEGACORPS, so they and their 1% leashholders can suck out all OUR wealth.

    Thanks a lot!
    Eddy
    4th Nov 2016
    3:01pm
    As the US comedian George Carlin said 'the upper class do none of the work, take all the money and pay no taxes, the middle class do all the work and pay all the taxes, while the lower class is to scare the sh-t out of the middle class'.
    bike30
    4th Nov 2016
    12:12am
    So much for honesty from our politicians
    Spitfire
    4th Nov 2016
    8:05am
    Sorry your comment does not make sense; is there such thing as an honest politician!!!!!
    Eddy
    4th Nov 2016
    2:55pm
    Don't be so cynical Spitfire, there must be lots of honest politicians, it's just that they have trouble being heard over the clamour of the not-so-honest ones.
    Spitfire
    4th Nov 2016
    8:03am
    Makes you wonder how many terrorists we have elected, if background checks have not been conducted with due diligence. How many of these clowns should not be in Canberra. Perhaps its time to round them up and put them in detention on Manus Island with the boat people while the nation deliberates on what to do with them.
    Eddy
    4th Nov 2016
    2:49pm
    The AEC do not do any sort of background check on persons who nominate for election. It would be undemocratic for a government body to check that candidates are eligible to nominate. All candidates are to declare they are eligible as per S44 of the constitution. If you want to know more then go to http://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/candidates/candidates-handbook/nominations.htm and look up 'Disqualification under the Constitution' and you will get first hand details.
    ex PS
    4th Nov 2016
    6:04pm
    Come on Eddy, is it undemocratic to check on the criminal history of those working with children? Is it undemocratic to check on people looking after our elderly?
    I will give you the benefit of assuming that you are being sarcastic.
    Anonymous
    4th Nov 2016
    6:42pm
    Eddy is telling you what the rules are, not arguing a case for or against them.

    As he says, candidates have to sign a declaration that they ARE eligible for election. We could argue about the penalty for making a false declaration. I reckon it should be pretty tough.

    Isn't that enough?
    Spitfire
    5th Nov 2016
    9:26am
    Hi Eddy, thanks for the heads up on the selection criteria, I do not have the time to study the content. However, if what you say is correct then the content requires review and amendment to encompass the disbarring of these applicants who would be assessed as none desirable to govern our nation.
    ex PS
    7th Nov 2016
    2:28pm
    Barak, "It would be undemocratic for a government body to check that candidates are eligible to nominate", that is statement made by Eddy. To me it seemed like a personal statement, if it was quoted from the Act or constitution I apoligise for unfair criticism.
    In regard to making a false declaration, I agree it should start with dismissal and end with at least a hefty fine and probably a gaol term.
    ex PS
    4th Nov 2016
    5:40pm
    So much for the government's mandate to govern this country.

    4th Nov 2016
    6:22pm
    great to see I hit the nerve of labor mick again and also of one of his hangers-on mussolini, as soon as micky calls you a troll you know you got him hook, line and sinker, he accuses you of everything but forgets to come up with any hard proof just accusations, of course he refuses to tell you if labor accept donations, just think of the unions, sollicitors etc or how much labor put in their coffers by selling Australia out for allowing the boats to return while labor was in government! remember more than 1200 people including many babies and children drowned yet labor mick thinks the sun shines out of labor's a.. hole, WELL HE CAN CALL ME A TROLL OR WHATEVER SUITS HIM AND HIS FELLOW LABORITES, AT LEAST I CAN HOLD MY HEAD UP HIGH en tell the world this government did the right thing and stopped this horrible trade in human lives.

    4th Nov 2016
    6:22pm
    great to see I hit the nerve of labor mick again and also of one of his hangers-on mussolini, as soon as micky calls you a troll you know you got him hook, line and sinker, he accuses you of everything but forgets to come up with any hard proof just accusations, of course he refuses to tell you if labor accept donations, just think of the unions, sollicitors etc or how much labor put in their coffers by selling Australia out for allowing the boats to return while labor was in government! remember more than 1200 people including many babies and children drowned yet labor mick thinks the sun shines out of labor's a.. hole, WELL HE CAN CALL ME A TROLL OR WHATEVER SUITS HIM AND HIS FELLOW LABORITES, AT LEAST I CAN HOLD MY HEAD UP HIGH en tell the world this government did the right thing and stopped this horrible trade in human lives.

    4th Nov 2016
    6:22pm
    great to see I hit the nerve of labor mick again and also of one of his hangers-on mussolini, as soon as micky calls you a troll you know you got him hook, line and sinker, he accuses you of everything but forgets to come up with any hard proof just accusations, of course he refuses to tell you if labor accept donations, just think of the unions, sollicitors etc or how much labor put in their coffers by selling Australia out for allowing the boats to return while labor was in government! remember more than 1200 people including many babies and children drowned yet labor mick thinks the sun shines out of labor's a.. hole, WELL HE CAN CALL ME A TROLL OR WHATEVER SUITS HIM AND HIS FELLOW LABORITES, AT LEAST I CAN HOLD MY HEAD UP HIGH en tell the world this government did the right thing and stopped this horrible trade in human lives.

    4th Nov 2016
    6:33pm
    and as for ex public servant comments, the less said the better, lived on the public purse all his live and still does, any public servant would not know what it is in real live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Anonymous
    4th Nov 2016
    6:45pm
    heemskerk, two things:

    1. Please control your posting finger so we only see your posts once.

    2. Discuss the topic, not other posters.
    Anonymous
    4th Nov 2016
    9:34pm
    barak I discuss the items, however it is hard to get through to the likes of you, who have never lived in a democratic country such as Australia, it is easier to goad camels as it is to live in a democratic country where people has a say without having to look over their shoulder and be afraid to speak the truth. You don't like living here in Australia, easy get back where you came from!
    Anonymous
    4th Nov 2016
    9:40pm
    I am not the topic.
    Anonymous
    5th Nov 2016
    5:36pm
    barak sorry you can't read otherwise you would have read my comments on this item in an earlier post, you must think you are allah's gift to this world by even contemplating as for you being a topic in these columns.
    Anonymous
    5th Nov 2016
    5:37pm
    I am not the topic.
    Anonymous
    5th Nov 2016
    6:24pm
    thanks allah for that!


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