Election 2016: Future of the NBN uncertain

The Government’s $29.5 public funding cap for the NBN is almost fully expended.

Election 2016: Future of the NBN uncertain

The latest budget papers have revealed that the Turnbull Government’s $29.5 billion public funding cap for the National Broadband Network (NBN) will be depleted by the end of the 2016/17 financial year.

However, in Budget 2016/17, the Turnbull Government suggested that it may increase public funding for the NBN beyond the initial $29.5 billion cap. "In the event that NBN is initially unable to raise the necessary debt on acceptable terms, interim funding support may be required," the documents read.

The NBN will connect its one-millionth active user later this month and already expects to exceed a full-year revenue target of $300 million due to higher than anticipated data consumption.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten will release his party’s NBN plan in the next few weeks. Technology experts expect the plan to be based around a full-fibre network with high-speed cables running directly into as many houses as possible. The Finance Department has warned of a negative impact on the budget if the model proposed under Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard were to be adopted.

“We’ll be announcing our NBN policy in the coming weeks, but it’ll be a good NBN plan. The future of this country relies upon strong regions, connected not only to our cities but to the world,” said Mr Shorten.

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Opinion: NBN policy could decide next election

The removal of Tony Abbott from power saw Malcolm Turnbull become one of our most well-received leaders in recent history. The Prime Minister is still being seen as the Coalition’s ‘champion’ for an NBN plan which will provide the nation with a world-class connection while, compared to Labor’s plan, saving the country billions of dollars.

For better or worse, the Australian public still associate Malcolm Turnbull with the NBN. After all, it was Mr Turnbull who told us to trust the Coalition and its plan to have the NBN in every home around Australia for less money and in less time.

Well where exactly is my connection Mr Turnbull? I don’t know a single person who has an NBN connection. In fact, the NBN website cannot even give me an estimate of when it expects to commence construction in my area. I am not alone in this – many of my friends who live in suburbs all around Melbourne are yet to receive any notification of when work will commence.

The Opposition will release its NBN plan in the coming weeks, with early indications of a policy change entailing a much faster and more stable connection, which will be easier to maintain in the long run but, in the initial stages, will cost more to install.

Make no mistake, this is an election that will be fought largely on policy and the current Government will be held accountable for its tardiness in rolling out the NBN.

What do you think? Is the NBN an important election policy? Would you change your vote based on the two major parties’ NBN policies?





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    ricks12
    12th May 2016
    10:36am
    NBN is a nation-building exercise that will long outlast twits in government who put politics before the nation. Turnbull seems hell bent on bastardising an essential technology for our country's future. We slip further and further down the rung of nations with the vision to get the Internet right. There is no technology on the horizon that approaches fibre optic cabling.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    11:20am
    Don't know who wrote this piece. Turnbull butchered the NBN by election sabre rattling claiming that the NBN would be cheaper and households connected faster. The reality is that Turnbull did not mention that marrying copper and fibre was a disaster, that it would cost more (already has) and that the connection rate would not be all that much faster.
    YLC: who wrote the above spiel? I have my doubts!
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    11:48am
    I think the biggest problem with the NBN is that it became a political football. The government of the day should have partnered with Telstra.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    12:57pm
    They tried to but Telstra was not a good deal for anybody except shareholders.
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:09pm
    Got that right ricks12 - well said.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    2:25pm
    OMG Frank! Partnered with Telstra? What they SHOULD have done was keep Telstra well away from it and let a real technology company (there was one from Singapore tendering!) handle the whole thing.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    2:26pm
    I've heard the Singaporean company is coming in to set up in competition. I'll be their first customer. They will make a motza.
    Rae
    13th May 2016
    6:27am
    Infrastructure as important as a national telecommunication system should never have been privatised.

    Not only would a proper NBN have been far easier and cheaper but the 3 odd billion dollar dividend to the public purse would have gone a long way to paying for it.

    Although the IMF is a great fan of privatisation that policy is often not the best option for the tax payer who funded the public asset.

    Telstra should have built the NBN if privatisation is so fantastic. Why is the government now wasting money building public assets when the theory is that government should not do such things and private enterprise does it so much better?
    Dobbo1
    12th May 2016
    10:37am
    We have had the NBN for over 6 months, with no issues at all, apart from the goons who installed it in my home. They made 8 holes in my bedroom wall, and moved a chest of drawers to mount the NBN box. It was ugly, so when I was asked to comment on it by NBN, and complained about the installers (who also walked mud on my bedroom carpet) it was moved, at no cost to me. I had to do my own repair on the wall though!. You are allowed to request the box be placed where YOU want it (not where the installers suggest) within 40 feet of the point of entry to your home. I have heard of other instances of the installers causing damage, so beware!
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    11:51am
    Dobbo1 do you have a Labor MP office nearby?
    Dobbo1
    12th May 2016
    12:13pm
    Yes Frank, there is one nearby but I have never been there (or to the Liberal office either!). The best part is I live in a very marginal seat, so the pollies throw everything our way coming up to an election.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    5:11pm
    The same BS you rolled out to me below Frank. Desperation methinks.
    Bazza
    12th May 2016
    10:41am
    I am most disappointed with the NBN rollout. I only know one person who has it connected. ADSL2 is so primitive. I only get 1mbps on average and therefore cannot make full use of the Internet.

    WHY DON'T YOU ROLL OUT THE NBN TO THOSE AREAS WHO HAVE THE WORST INTERNET SPEEDS MR TURNBULL!

    In fact I feel the money would have been better spent giving it to Telstra and Optus to upgrade yheir existing networks.

    I'll be dead by the time NBN gets to my house- if at all!!!
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    12:59pm
    That's the trouble with something this size. Huge and takes time. Not like getting a hamburger.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    2:28pm
    As Bazza says, though, it would be sensible surely to prioritize areas where the connection is really bad. I live in a black spot area and we are LAST on the list for connection! Go figure!
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    2:29pm
    Just up the road a bit, they have NBN. They were also on the ''last to connect'' list, but a powerful politician moved into the area and... well, you can guess, can't you?
    MB100D
    13th May 2016
    1:44pm
    I have had the NBN for over 6 months now, no problems, my speed has almost doubled....so almost all good as far as I'm concerned.
    For an extra $10 month I have free local and STD calls and no line rental.
    The only issue I have is that the telephone service is dependant on the Modem, so if you lose power you lose the phone, also the Modem needs to be powered up 24/7, and if you go OS for 6 to 8 weeks you need to power the Modem to receive calls and log to the answer machine.
    LiveItUp
    13th May 2016
    2:40pm
    We had the option of keeping the old copper phone line or going digital as part of the NBN broadband. It was recommended that we keep the old phone line because of power outages. I can disconnect the NBN without it affecting my phone and answering service as it is completely separate. There was no extra cost for having the phone as it came with the NBN. The NBN costs less than the ADSL did.
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:06pm
    Never mind Bazza Move to the Wentworth Electorate ! That's all up and running :-) :-)
    MB100D
    14th May 2016
    10:20am
    Hey Bonny, what are you going to do when the copper network is disconnected?
    LiveItUp
    14th May 2016
    3:10pm
    They left it connected because of all the power outages we have and they have no intention of disconnecting the copper phone line.
    particolor
    14th May 2016
    5:03pm
    Watch out they don't Whack 240Volts down it for you !! :-(
    MB100D
    15th May 2016
    7:42am
    Rubbish Bonny, you need to get the facts from NBNCO and Telstra, or do you know more than them?
    Princesca
    12th May 2016
    11:10am
    The govt can't run it out to some of the people and then decide it does not have money left to finish it, I will ensure my next move is into an area that has been lucky enough to get it already
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    12:59pm
    You can always use wireless (Vodafone?) until it is done and dusted.
    Rae
    13th May 2016
    6:32am
    Keep an eye on the immense satellite system planned by a joint effort between Apple and Alphabet(google). It is supposed to link the world with very fast wi fi service. Not sure how the build is going as the media are not allowed to talk about it apparently. I read about it in a newspaper in NY.
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:16pm
    You have to read about these things in Overseas Newspapers as Ours Have Blinkers on them !! :-(
    jamesmn
    12th May 2016
    11:16am
    this was supposed to be turnballs portfolio before he back stabbed abbot he was told then it was too slow and not up to date compared to other countries and this idiot wants the people to elect him what a joke
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:01pm
    Turnbull DID butcher it. That's what Shorten is saying that Labor will do the original job....as it should have been done. Do it once, do it properly.
    Turnbull has cost us heaps and never a mention of that.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    3:23pm
    Oh MICK, how could you................did you really post that as Shorten has said something it must be the Gospel truth? As for the original job, ask a Telstra technician if it can be done as Labor promised. Nobody has as yet figured how to get FTTP into high rise apartments nor has the cost of getting FTTP been done for isolated properties such as farms.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:04pm
    You are starting to sound like an advertisement for the government Old Man.
    Sorry you cannot handle the facts. Turnbull HAS RUINED the NBN and the Labor NBN WAS ALWAYS FIBRE TO THE HOME. So please keep the right wing BS to yourself and come up with something credible.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    7:49pm
    Sorry MICK, I'm not pumping up the Lib's tyres, I just pointed out that Labor has lied as well. They can't put FTTP everywhere as they promised and that's a lie. I also pointed out that Shorten has lied in the past so his word cannot be relied upon.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:20pm
    Old Man, please don't argue with MICK.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:24pm
    Don't believe anything that Shorten says. He put his now wife in the family way while she was married to somebody else and he was married to somebody else, what a future PM. Excuse me while I puke.
    And also google Shorten, union bully boy, again time to puke and people will vote for him. Unbelievable.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:25pm
    That you Frank? I stand by the facts: Turnbull has butchered the project. Now the government wants to talk about anything else and their trolls post the BS you come up with stan.
    jamesmn
    12th May 2016
    11:27am
    its out of date turnball no one these days has cable internet which is exactly what it is plus you do not need a home phone you only need Wi-Fi which will do your mobile and your internet there are some great plans out there now check out Aldi who now have 4g best provider for the last 2 years and they use Telstra network and don't listen to the lies that all Telstra sales people tell you they all get a commission on everything they sell and the most amount of complaints against them through the accc plus every time someone reports them to the accc they Telstra or anyone they are fined $5000.00 if its not resolved and the accc have to step in.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:05pm
    Google ProductReview Teslstra or for that matter any of the telcos. This is what self regulation gets you.
    The Vodafone network you are describing is fine but it has limitations and will never be anywhere as good as fibre. We have not even factored in growing usage which is already occurring and this is where fibre will be a lay down misere.
    Turnbull is an idiot who sold a lie to voters to get himself and his crooked government elected. It worked. Says something about how gullible voters are.
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:14pm
    And services like Netflicks and the suppliers who sell 4k+ television sets are pulling out their hair. Retailers I have spoken to are saying they will vote Labor because the Coalition is materially hurting their core business.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:31pm
    And the bank account of the nation.
    Sevi
    12th May 2016
    11:34am
    We live in a very large housing estate in Halls Head WA. No NBN in sight or in the near future. Just returned from a holiday up North and there is NBN in small villages, retirement homes and suchlike. So...who gets to make the decision as to where it is fitted? My retired friends in Mandurah all have NBN, is it something we said?
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    8:31pm
    No ! The Polly's Holiday in those Places :-)
    Tom Tank
    12th May 2016
    11:35am
    This hybrid system was concocted to hit the ALP over the head with as an example of their poor management of projects.
    I certainly seems to have shown a light on the Libs management of projects as being no better, perhaps worse, than Labors.
    This whole shambles is being done at taxpayers expense. I don't mean the NBN itself as that is necessary but simply the unholy mess that is costing us more than it should and taking longer than it should.
    What was that old cliché of changing horses in mid-stream?
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:07pm
    The original concept was fine. It should not have been destroyed by a pompous party puppet like Turnbull. It was. And now we all pay.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    3:26pm
    Yes MICK, the concept was fine as worked up between Rudd and Conroy on the back of a coaster but the reality is a horse of another colour. Politicians ideas are designed purely and simply to get elected, public servants are the constant in government and the ones who try and translate politicians' ideas.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:06pm
    What a load of BS. On the back of a coaster. Yeah right. Let's talk about Paid Parental Leave from Tony the phony............
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    7:51pm
    MICK, you're right once more, it was on a RAAF napkin. This topic is about the NBN, if you want to go off topic you could be accused of ducking the issue.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:26pm
    Old Man, as if MICK would go off subject, oh ye of little faith!
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:28pm
    Obviously you were there Old Man. Easy to blog BS rather than look at the facts on their merits. Had Abbott and Turnbull let the project run you might have had a case, but because Turnbull intervened and butchered the project you have nowhere to go.
    By all means grandstand. I don't care...because the truth is available to find online for anybody who has an hour to spare. Say what you want.
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    11:44am
    I didn't realise there was money was set aside for the cost of the NBN. I thought the Rudd government had issued bonds, which obviously would have become attractive to investors with falling interest rates.
    I think the plan is to build it then sell it. Probably at an enormous loss.
    Why couldn't the government work with private enterprise on this??
    I still don't understand why we gave Telstra $11b of borrowed money and then set up in competition against them? Why couldn't we work with Telstra? Would they not come to the meetings with their red undies on their heads?
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:11pm
    You were saying above that the government should have partnered with Telstra. A quick change of mind.
    The NBN done properly will be a wonderful piece of modern engineering and whatever government of the day we have they will undoubtedly flog it off (that is how deadbeat governments in this country think) and make a profit for us all.
    Trust you to make the normal idiot statement at the end of a post which was looking balanced. Just keep in mind that it was MALCOLM TURNBULL who sold the next lie....that his NBN was better and faster. It wasn't. It isn't. In fact it's a dud.....and the media chooses never to pursue that line does it? But then who controls the media? A no brainer.
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    6:10pm
    MICK it will cost twice as much as they will get for it.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:31pm
    Yeah Frank....just like the Commonwealth Bank was sold off too cheaply!
    The NBN will be A MONOPOLY and somebody will pay heaps. The question is will Liberal sell it to a multinational in exchange for guaranteed election funding for years (fraud!) or will Labor be conned into flogging it off at less than its value.
    That my dear troll remains to be seen!
    Lescol
    12th May 2016
    11:47am
    For the past 25 years I have been building the latest telkom networks around the world. I am ashamed and embarrassed to see how the NBN is being built and the political games being played around it. I think it also shows a lack of maturity in the political arena as some projects need to be bi-partisan. cheers.
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    11:53am
    Well put Lescol! I agree, there are far too many political side issues with the NBN.
    Tom Tank
    12th May 2016
    12:01pm
    Exactly Lescol and it certainly was used as a political football.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:13pm
    The reality Lescol is that the original project was torpedoed. I cannot see how Labor is to blame for getting the original project going and having an idiot ruin it. Am I missing something that you are aware of here?
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    2:33pm
    Actually, I'm sorry to say Mick that on this one Labor did get it wrong. LNP got it much wronger (is that a word?), but the NBN was a disaster from the outset. The technology was outdated when it was first conceived, and rapidly become more outdated. That said, we'd have been far better off, once it was happening, if Turnbull had left it alone and let it proceed as per Labor's plan.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:08pm
    Labor's plan was fibre to the home. Turnbull's policy was get into government and butcher the plan.
    How was the technology outdated Rainey?
    mccosker
    12th May 2016
    12:16pm
    We recently changed to NBN & after a few problems the phone & internet were working OK. However, like a lot of friends in nearby areas we are having real problems with internet speed, apparently due to copper cables from street to house.
    Some days it slows to a crawl. After a number of calls for tech support we were required (by NBN before they would investigate, beyond what our ISP could do) to carry out 3 days of tests each including 3 one hour or more online tests & email them the results. Fortunately my son could handle this better than I & I wonder how many seniors & others would fare. Two days later we have heard nothing & nothing yet has improved.
    The full fibre plan might cost more initially but less longterm & give a far better result. Irresponsible plan by pollies!
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:07pm
    As I understand the Labor plan was less expensive and actually worked as real infrastructure.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:15pm
    And there you have it mccosker: COPPER CABLE married to fibre. This was the Turnbull solution. Now we have an NBN which has cost more already and is substandard.
    We need to demand that the mainstream media reports this rather than hide their man from blame.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    2:35pm
    There was always a problem with the last mile, Mick. But you are right that Turnbull really messed up. Copper cable married to fibre can't work, and anyone with even basic technical know-how would know that. It's elementary.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:08pm
    Fibre to the home was the right call. No problems then.
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    7:01pm
    Even Watson knew that Rainey ! :-)
    MB100D
    14th May 2016
    1:44pm
    Fibre and copper does work, I've got it and my speed has doubled.
    old-age worker
    12th May 2016
    12:34pm
    1: labor plan was fibre. Almost zero maintenance and speed capability far higher than copper - AND more "lines" per connection= cheaper!
    2:NO battery boxes around your neighbourhood. Copper needs battery-powered boosters to work.
    3: Remember the hoo ha about "asbestos in the pits"? Another Liberal scare campaign?
    The LNP plan NEEDS access to the SAME ASBESTOS infested pits. Why? To access the copper network that lies inside the pits.
    4: Labor's fibre network DOESN"T NEED access to the pits. They can be filled with concrete and a new, safe, asbestos-free pit can be installed.
    Why didn't Labor capitalise on this?
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:05pm
    Yes, and didn't the Libs hand over billions to Telstra to purchase thos asbestos-filled pits and worn out copper, knowing full well it all would have to be replaced in a few years.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:17pm
    I remember that the media went feral about asbestos boxes. But then the media is in bed with coalition governments because both are owned/controlled by the big end of town. That is the real problem.
    I agree with all of your post. Frank...make a comment on the above please. We want to hear how the government responds.
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:28pm
    Mick, you say, "the media is in bed with coalition governments because both are owned/controlled by the big end of town." Read Rupert Murdoch - who wants us to buy his FOX tv offering over Netflicks - but now it won't stream as fast as he hoped it would on the Lib's vapourware NBN. Again, Ha Ha! Shot himself in the foot. Ha Ha!
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:34pm
    Yeah Scrivener. Funny if it were not so sick.
    Murdoch will get into bed with whoever does his bidding and he is known to very occasionally swap sides. That's why he ran with the Rudd campaign. But generally the coalition gives him whatever he wants and the media ownership laws in this country are already heavily skewed in Murdoch's favour. And he wants more! God help us!
    Old Dog
    12th May 2016
    12:39pm
    Out here in Stockinbingal, we DO have the NBN (of sorts). I am not sure where the fibre optic terminates. We have, probably as good as we are going to get, and I believe that that may gradually go downhill as time goes on and the wireless network slowly becomes more congested. Yes, we have an antenna on the peak of the roof and are dependant on wireless between our modem and the node. Presently we enjoy 25/5 speeds as opposed to 100/40 with fibre optic. I use "enjoy" because it is a hell of a lot faster than what we used to "enjoy". However, considerably less than the speed that fibre to the premises would "enjoy" and probably for the same price.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:18pm
    Yep. Remember that when you show up to vote.
    Fredklaus
    12th May 2016
    12:43pm
    nbn node has been less than 100 metres from my house for more than 8 months but won't work for my street,I am quite happy to wait until I get something that works.have given up on what was going to happen in my street.and I believe so has NBN
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:19pm
    Let your local member know and keep on their back + local media....although unlikely the Murdoch rags will run anything which paints their man in a bad light.
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:22pm
    Our local member just got replaced by a Liberal Party schlock. Thinks he's going to get elected over the person he replaced, who is running as an independent. Ha, Ha!
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:36pm
    A lot of that going on. People need to stop voting for the brand and start voting for people. The you do not get puppets who blindly obey their owners.
    We also have a Liberal Party bimbo in our electorate, promoted by the local Murdoch rag. Starting again.
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:01pm
    Yep. Ours was due to be installed in October a couple of years ago - about the time of the last Election. It was canned and still has not been installed. I think this is a good gauge of Turnbull's actual, as opposed to his self-proclaimed, competence.
    Just a great big puffed up wind-bag - a Bulls#@t artist.
    seadog
    12th May 2016
    1:10pm
    I live in Tasmania which was the first state to have all the NBN connected. F=Guess what - has not happened. This was an ill designed project in the first place and is not the best technology in the world in any case. I have NBN connected and have had since December but unlike many who have had Telstra connect them I had no problems with Iinet who did an excellent job, consulted where I would like it connected and even suggested the most unobtrusive place to have the "box" fitted. Those people who have had Telstra connect have all had problems with the way it has been done, costs of service and attitude of technicians. Even so I do not find the NBN to be much faster that ADSL which worked very well for me. And yes I do have a supposed high rate. This is the same as comments from those connected to Telstra. I do not think this is quite so bad seeing as the Prime Minister responsible for it designed it on an RAAF serviette with no business plan or costing. Just remember KRudd promised it would only cost 10 Billion
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:22pm
    BS. The NBN is taking hold around the planet even though this is almost never reported. It was a wonderful project seadog. Just that Turnbull changed it to a mix of copper and fibre. So the project is now compromised....and has run way over budget.
    Not too sure your $10 billion figure is accurate.
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    3:21pm
    Good Lord seadog?! Was that the flight without the vegemite?
    No wonder.
    Labor have been flying by the seat of their pants for years.
    I remember when Keating government Sports minister Ros Kelly was asked about details of sports funding.

    Because the process involved sitting around her office where she had a huge whiteboard the details were not portable in those days.

    You need to remember this was way back in 1995. To make matters worse the details were less than portable because all that remained of the details were in Ros' memory because the cleaner had cleaned the white board.

    It's nice to know that Labor have learned from past mistakes. A serviette is an improvement for them.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:09pm
    The typical Frank the crank response when you cannot refute the facts.
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    6:16pm
    MICK I could call you names but I cant think of one that rhymes with MICK. Help me out here MICK?
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:13pm
    Leave MICK alone, he is one bored little man and loves pontificating on every subject, such a shame, he really ought to be PM, Australia would be a "better"place. H would get my vote every time, MICK for PM.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:35pm
    Call me whatever you like Frank. But if you want respect then argue the facts and end the mudslinging with your misrepresentation of the 'facts' and your intentional dishonesty. Eh gad...you are sounding like our current government again.
    You'll get a respectful response from me when you act honestly. Not holding my breath on that one.............
    Rae
    13th May 2016
    6:48am
    You'd be surprised at how many brilliant ideas were first jotted down on serviettes Frank.

    However before you can jot a great idea down you actually have to have one.

    For it to be of National benefit it must be about the community and not just about yourself.

    That is where the LNP always fall down. Everything is about them, their investments and their businesses.

    And honestly with the instant gratification mindset of today I doubt an electric lightbulb could have been developed.
    Adrianus
    13th May 2016
    7:56am
    What I have noticed is that you lefties can't laugh at yourselves.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    8:26am
    Actually posters laugh at trolls who routinely post their lies and vile on this website trying to smear.
    Sorry Frank. Or is it stan today? Heemskerk? Have not see your Solomon one for a while though.
    Adrianus
    13th May 2016
    8:32am
    OK this discussion has deteriorated to the point where I must run.
    marto
    12th May 2016
    1:15pm
    Once again mal has let us down he just uses smoke and mirrors he has to be labled as australia's biggest disappointment bring on the election
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:25pm
    How can you tell a politician is lying? His lips are moving. Malcolm's lips frequently move as he talks a lot. Most of it feel good nationalism rather than projects which have been planned and are ready to implement. Of late I notice that he is being portrayed by the media as a 'family man'. Be kissing babies next!
    libsareliars
    13th May 2016
    10:56am
    Spot on marto and mick
    synergex
    12th May 2016
    1:23pm
    It is an impossibility to be an innovative, creative and therefore competitive nation without a functioning fibre to the home NBN.
    How anyone with so little basic insight could become prime minister escapes me.
    NBN is an essential investment for survival and productivity and in strategic terms more valuable than submarines will ever be in 10 years let alone 30 years.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:30pm
    I have rarely read this as the Abbott era attacks promoted through the mainstream media said just the opposite whilst promoting Turnbull's idiotic alternatives. I got rather sick and tired of hearing about 'downloading videos' as his justification for his hybrid disaster. Sadly the electorate voted for the Abbott team (understandable given the amount of propaganda being shoved down the throats of voters!) and we have what we have. Another nail in the coffin of our wonderful country where politicians spend in full knowledge that they are wasting the national bank account. And then there was the RC into Unions........... What next?
    Scrivener
    12th May 2016
    1:31pm
    A sharp intellect at the beck and call of shopkeepers, lawyers and farmers. Dead in the water.
    Max
    12th May 2016
    1:32pm
    Innovation? Small business help? How can we be innovative and help small business grow with a second rate NBN. We are currently about 65th in the world and declining!
    Malcolm Turnbull and the L/NP have proven less than competent in rolling out their second rate version. They were so critical of Labour's plan and implementation but havn't done any better, in fact probably worse!
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    1:38pm
    Turnbull torpedoed a sound NBN to gain publicity from the right wing media and ultimately get himself elected, along with the rest of the Abbott despots.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:27pm
    Spend some time with your family MICK for goodness sake.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:35pm
    Desperation stuff!
    Peking
    12th May 2016
    1:39pm
    Turnbull's backflip from real NBN to fibre-to-the-node, rather to the home was always going to produce the problems we see in thesis posts, and elsewhere....and he knew it.
    The simplest analogy is to see the NBN backbone working like a major multi-lane highway which branches out to a dirt road near you.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:11pm
    That's the reality. I wish you were working for the mainstream media, who refuse to print the facts when they damage their party.
    DavidF
    12th May 2016
    1:58pm
    The worst decision ever made to change FTP to FTN. I bet the cost will be equal or greater that Labour indicated for full FTP. With the FTN anyone who really wants real speed will have to personally pay more to get the copper upgraded to fibre to their homes. It is like building a 4 lane harbour bridge. How insane!! Does anyone think it will get any cheaper to complete the real job in say 10 years time. In the meantime we lag behind the rest of the world.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:12pm
    I thought it already was.
    fearlessfly
    12th May 2016
    2:11pm
    I have already emailed Turnbull stating that the NBN shitfest is ONE of the reasons I will be voting AGAINST him and his crappy government !
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:12pm
    Good on you. Make sure you do not get conned by the media in the next 2 months though.

    12th May 2016
    2:23pm
    I know some who are connected. It was part of the deal between the ALP and Tony Windsor that New England got preferential treatment in the NBN connection schedule, and connection proved a disaster for many in that area. They had endless problems and wished they'd never heard of NBN. Not sure how it's going now. Pretty much given up on ever getting a decent connection where we live. NBN is said to be years away and we are stuck with an appallingly slow and frequently interrupted ADSL2.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:13pm
    Maybe change over to the Vodafone wireless service. Latest technology I believe.
    Ayin
    12th May 2016
    2:30pm
    NBN stands for Not Bloody Near. For me since they changed it, it has become a wotmafe! I use Vividwireless and find it quite acceptable in my area as it is not available everywhere :(
    seadog
    12th May 2016
    3:06pm
    Mick it was not BS. Check with your left wing friends and if they are honest that is where you will get the 10 Billion. Crawl back into your extreme left wing hole and give us a break. You obviously have a lot of time to waste on your hands and your comments are so far out there that they are non comprhe4nsible by anyone with any brain. Next you will be telling us the Greens are terrific. If you had read my comment properly you would see that I do already have the NBN to the Node and the improvement is only marginal. Check your information regarding NBN in other coutries and you may be enlightened.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:36pm
    I don't have any left wing friends. As I say repeatedly I also do not vote Labor even though it may appear that I do.
    I do have time to waste. Welcome to retirement! Boredom maybe!
    Greens: agree with climate policy, hate homosexual marriage position and asylum (not) seeker policy. Does that help!
    Of course FTTN is substandard. That is the whole point. Turnbull butchered the project and it is now going to cost the country heaps more to fix the mess.
    I cannot recall a $10 billion figure. Can anybody else?

    Some information for you seadog:

    "$29.5 billion was the initial estimate the Coalition made for peak funding of the NBN rollout prior to its election in 2013.
    Since then the cost estimate for the infrastructure project has risen twice, to $41 billion following the government's post-election NBN Strategic Review, to a range of $46 billion to $56 billion in the NBN's current corporate plan."
    roy
    12th May 2016
    4:52pm
    MICK has no life outside this site, did you not know sea dog?

    12th May 2016
    3:14pm
    As this forum is all about what affects the individual I have to add my 2 cents worth. I have ADSL2 and I can download a movie in about 20 minutes, a CD album in about 6 minutes and as I'm retired the time doesn't really matter. I can see TV shows I have missed without any buffering and I'm very happy with what I have. I have been led to believe that our exchange will be one of the last for the NBN because it has problems but in my own selfish way I don't really care. The NBN, or lack of it, won't affect my vote.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:38pm
    Your vote is understood.
    Good luck to you and I hope they do not come after your bank account. They will.
    Anonymous
    12th May 2016
    7:54pm
    MICK, why do you feel it is necessary to post a comment on each and every post in here, some posts multiple times. Why do you have to add unnecessary comments that are off topic. What has my post stirred in your mind something about my bank account?
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:08pm
    Old Man. MICK has no life outside this site, do you not feel sorry for his family? He is almost invariably the 1st to post on every subject, what is wrong with the man? Sone answers please MICK.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:36pm
    If you want to tag team then join a wrestling team. Sounds like I am getting to troll city.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    9:08pm
    I do feel sorry for your wife MICK, please tell her she has my deepest sympathy.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    9:09pm
    MICK's favourite word again, Troll, yawn.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    7:17am
    No worries Frank. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................
    Fritz
    12th May 2016
    4:04pm
    don't get to ambitious about NBN I have been connected to it now for 5 Months and am not happy with it I am on a 25/5 plan but at times I can only get around 3mbps I contacted my provider and they ran tests over about 10 days which finally ended with a technician being sent to my home, there was nothing wrong with my equipment or the way it was set up and I was told by my provider that the problem was with NBN and I would just have to put up with it
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    4:41pm
    3 MBps is about average for ADSL2+. Some better some worse.
    Your provider could be the problem as some ISPs do not buy enough bandwidth and in peak times traffic on their network slows to dial-up speed. Maybe change providers or at the very least ring and tell them you are not happy with their speed. They may do something for you.
    fearlessfly
    12th May 2016
    5:38pm
    Here's something interesting, I've just had my ISP (Dodo) get my phone line checked out as it had an annoying humming noise on it. Prior to the Telstra fix on the line (9/5/16) my average D/L speed was around 4-5 Mbps. Yesterday and today I recorded 8.85 (10:15pm) & 8.76 Mbps (5:30pm), ping was 20 ms. I am 3656 metres from the exchange and apparently acceptable speed for this distance is about 4 Mbps. SO, don't know what the Telstra guy did, but it seems to have magicked my ADSL2 connection !
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    5:46pm
    He Kicked the Wires Ate His sandwich and went home !! :-)
    seadog
    12th May 2016
    4:47pm
    Mick
    Appreciate you confirming that you are not red. The original figure was put out by Krudd when the NBN was first discussed. I also agree with some of the others who have NBN connected - very little better or even the same as ADSL. I have been connected for sometime now. Just for you Mick I run a small Strata Management Business and fast NBN would be better for me but I am still waiting.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:13pm
    Understand. It's a big project.
    Oars
    12th May 2016
    5:13pm
    More to the point is why did a labour ex Unionist sytart this fanticy in the first place. We need other things than fast broadband to fix up opur community. Turnbull was saddled with the "bail-out clauses" that were "conveniently" left in by labor-as they ran for cover, knowing they could never afford their pipe dream. Talk about the boot on the wrong foot. Wake up Ozz we are being "snowstormed" by yet another labour piece of propaganda- this heading is one of them.
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    7:09pm
    I'm awake Oars. I saw all the time bombs left for the LNP. I cannot believe the childish political antics from the Unions. They have their own little game of one upmanship going and we are paying for it. We need to leave the adults in so they can get us back on track.
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    7:20pm
    ADULTS !! :-) :-) :-) I think they are playing "Whose Turn on the Throne" in there now ! :-( NEXT !...... Ex PM's Pension POO's on Backbenchers !! :-)
    Adrianus
    12th May 2016
    8:07pm
    Look, I know Bill Shorten has shed 15kg and is down to his fighting weight and serious about the top job. I saw him on TV jogging. He was winning by half a block and hardly working a sweat. He's been that busy he hasn't had time to buy some smaller shirts. Pretty soon if he doesn't stop all that jogging his head is gohna disappear down his shirt collar and Jenny Craig will be on the phone to him. But seriously,?? Can he outrun Turnbull?? We will see on Friday at 6pm.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:16pm
    Messages from your sponsor boys.
    If it was up to this government we'd still be using carrier pigeons. But you guys will take all the good and come back with the above spew. Tells a story.
    Go back to party HQ for another briefing guys.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:33pm
    Frank, I've heard rumours that Bill is a love child of Stan Laurel, he certainly looks and acts like him. I wonder if MICK collects all the old Laurel and Hardy films, do you MICK?
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:38pm
    What about Bronny and Johnny? A stillborn?
    roy
    12th May 2016
    9:06pm
    That is no answer MICK, do you have all the Abbott and Costelloe films, MICk. Watch them whilst spending some time with your family.
    Keep the red flag flying high.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    7:18am
    I detect desperation Frank or what names you post under......
    Oars
    12th May 2016
    5:17pm
    Ricks- do you really mean that you require a fast (split second relay on yoyur emails ? It takes me a few minutes to prepare my typing fingers- so why the speed of NBN - it only looks after a few Country qwaks who could afford to pay for their own broadband. Why do us simple folk have to pay for this pipe dream of labor that they pushed yet had NO feasibility study. But labor cleverly allowed a "default clause" in the contracts ( to their mates) so that if the NBN was scrubbed, the new Government would have to pay the bill. Turnbull did the only thing possible- other than fighting a few contractors in courts. So there!!!!
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:18pm
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.................. Methinks Rudd was the instigator of WW2?????
    The only thing Turnbull did was to waste out hard earned public money and turn the NBN into a lemon.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:35pm
    What's with all the Zzzzzzzzzzs MICK are you getting bored posting all day and everyday on this site, time to spend some time with your family maybe.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    7:18am
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................
    ennui
    12th May 2016
    5:22pm
    Turnbull can smilingly alocate 50 Billion dollars to fund a submarine then complains the cost of the NBN is crippling the economy.
    Telstra in no way is responsible for Turnbulls NBN stuff-ups.
    Telco's are springing up like mushrooms----and you know why!--Big Bickies are to be made by them for for a comparative small outlay and most of them have access to Telstra's equipment because Telstra Is regulated to allow them access.
    The result is Telstra being blamed because of NBN issues
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:20pm
    And let's not forget that the telecommunications industry unregulated, so negligence is rife.
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    5:23pm
    They run out of Money :-( They used it for their last Pay rise ! :-( :-(
    Andy Leucite
    12th May 2016
    5:32pm
    My suburb in Melbourne doesn't even show yet on suburbs coming up for NBN installation - not now, not next year, not in any foreseeable future. It's a big suburb and a declared major activity centre, or whatever today's town planning buzzword is. I have sought answers from the NBN directly only to be told that they have no idea when my suburb will even be on the way-down-the-track list. I definitely feel like I live in third world suburb, and will probably be dead by the time the NBN gets here! Still, we only got sewered about 30 years ago, so I will have to rediscover my patience in the wait for modern infrastructure installation.
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    5:39pm
    Julie and Mal gave your NBN Upgrade Dough to the UN !! :-) :-)

    12th May 2016
    5:40pm
    If Turnaway is going to be as incompetent as a PM as what he was with the NBN would you vote for him in July?
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    5:44pm
    When the Rain Tumbles Down in July ! :-) :-)
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:21pm
    The trolls on this website will be.
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    8:27pm
    I'll Butter all the Ballot papers so their Pencil slips off it Mick !! :-) :-)
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:31pm
    There's MICK's favourite word troll again. Anybody who doesn't have his point of view is a troll, so sad.
    Give your family some time MICK they are more important than your postings on this site.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:41pm
    There's a difference between an alternative point of view and a troll. The latter is somebody who seeks to tarnish someone's reputation with no facts or justification. The method of operation for a few so called posters.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    9:04pm
    Spend some time with your family MICK, we are all a long time dead.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    9:06pm
    And a few are already dead....and still posting.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    9:14pm
    Your poor little wifey wifey, she should get a medal MICK, give her some time please.
    I bet you will be posting tomorrow on every subject and more than anybody else, so sad of you, ah well it takes all sorts. Keep the red flag flying high.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    7:19am
    When the desperados get desperate............
    roy
    13th May 2016
    10:22am
    Give your wife a cuddle MICK.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    11:08am
    And you give Malcolm one too.
    roy
    13th May 2016
    2:29pm
    Give Billy Shorty a cuddle MICK.
    LiveItUp
    13th May 2016
    2:32pm
    I don't get to vote for him so it's not a concern.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    5:08pm
    I love tag team. Shows how desperate You are Frank.
    cockyhockey
    12th May 2016
    6:15pm
    This is a national disgrace, blatant lies and dishonesty with the real cost is now coming to bite the PM.
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    6:49pm
    And now Baird thinks He was Crowned King !! :-(
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:22pm
    And it apparently is Labor's fault. Well everything is.
    roy
    12th May 2016
    8:29pm
    ALP, borrow borrow borrow, spend spend spend, the labor way, always has been world wide, keep the re flag flying high MICK.
    MICK
    12th May 2016
    8:43pm
    And Liberal Party a subsidiary of big business and the rich with one mission in life: send as much money to the bosses as it can get away with. Welcome to the most recent budget!
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    8:45pm
    The Libs aren't bad at that either ! Plus Sell the Crown Jewels ! :-(
    roy
    12th May 2016
    9:11pm
    Borrow borrow borrow, spend spend spend, stuff our children and grandchildren, good old labor. Live for today, run up debts galore.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    7:21am
    Precisely what the current government has been doing for the past 2 years. That's why they removed the debt ceiling. Now they send their brain dead trolls out to sell this tripe to the electorate. Not working Frank.
    roy
    13th May 2016
    10:20am
    There's MICK's favourite troll word again, getting boring MICK, turn the record over.
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:11pm
    Don't back answer a Troll with a Trolley to push Mick ! They thrive on that !! :-) :-)
    roy
    13th May 2016
    4:21pm
    What about the previous 10 years MICK?
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    5:07pm
    Yeah Frank. Costello in his hammock handing out Baby Bonuses during the height of the mining boom. Do tell.
    Aviatorman
    12th May 2016
    9:59pm
    Stone the crows and starve the lizards.... so much waffle and personal attacks in the above posts.. I'd like to say more and to the subject, but its close to bed-time.. maybe tomorrow... zzzzzzz..
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    7:23am
    Good idea. You sort of miss the point that some of the 'posters' are not the real McCoy. On this site to exact maximum damage to Labor. That is the sort of malicious government we currently have.
    roy
    14th May 2016
    10:32am
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Happy Jack
    13th May 2016
    2:58am
    I'd "LOVE TO HAVE A BEERR WITH DUNCAN"
    Happy Jack
    13th May 2016
    3:03am
    I'd "LOVE TO HAVE A BEER WITH DUNK"
    Happy Jack
    13th May 2016
    3:07am
    My shout too. "The man's a legend".
    PlanB
    13th May 2016
    8:52am
    I am supposed to get the NBN in July but have heard some very bad reports about it
    GrayComputing
    13th May 2016
    10:53am
    We the pensioners will be forced into a high cost NBN plan whether we like it or not.
    Most of our generation will use only a tiny fraction of the most basic NBN plan.
    As a computer geek I only download 1% of my lowest iiNet plan quota each month.
    Our generation will end up subsidising the NBN bandwidth hogs at our expense.
    Large businesses and the video and gaming addicts will be well pleased by.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    11:12am
    You have a point and I am in a similar boat to you. I am not sure the future is exactly how you view it though but I may be wrong.
    TV viewing habits are about to change forever and we will be increasingly downloading programs as well as movies. On top of that applications requiring high bandwidth keep coming and business will utilise the NBN. The irony is that this is the same business which ploughs money into Liberal Party election campaigns. So big business has wrecked what was a good NBN plane and will now take all of the benefits for itself. And you wonder why we have malicious and dishonest coalition governments.
    roy
    13th May 2016
    2:28pm
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
    MICK
    14th May 2016
    9:45am
    The best form of flattery is imitation stan.
    roy
    14th May 2016
    10:31am
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    MICK
    14th May 2016
    1:25pm
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Time for a relevant response from particolor maybe.
    roy
    14th May 2016
    1:37pm
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and are still ignoring your family MICK, dear oh dear oh dear, quite criminal really, ah well.
    libsareliars
    13th May 2016
    10:53am
    Spot on ricks12 - Turnbull stands for nothing, only for having the top job. He says he believes in innovation and then killed the NBN simply to please his master Rupert, he said he believed in an ETS and still supports the dud Direst Action policy. He only stands for himself and his rich buddies, don't be fooled people - he's the smiling assassin.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    11:17am
    This government is 'owned' by the coal industry and big business. Same all over the developed world.
    Readers may want to consider that 'small business' has been redefined to those businesses turning over up to $10 million a year. As if? To add insult to injury this group includes accountants, lawyers, doctors, etc. In other words it includes many voters who vote Liberal. How strange.
    We need a federal ICAC. This should be one of Shorten's policies. An election winner I would think!
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:28pm
    Shorten & Malcolm So Far !! ZZzzzz SNORE ! ZZZzzzz !!
    LiveItUp
    13th May 2016
    11:50am
    We were connected to NBN wireless nearly 12 months ago but still have a phone connected to the old copper wires because we live on a country estate. We were guaranteed 10mbps but it runs at about 50mbps. Other than a couple of problems that were fixed quickly it has been good. ADSL was so slow and you could only use one computer at a time with it. Now it's computers and devices running everywhere and I haven't seem any buffeting since it was installed. We had Presto for 6 months free of charge and regularly get free bigpond movies. Cost wise it costs much less than old ADSL plus phone. We only use about a quarter of the monthly allowance but have free topups available if we go over it.

    Our mobile phone internet runs at about 10mbps so everyone use the NBN instead as it's faster.

    From my experience all they need to do is put in some more NBN towers and hook everyone up to NBN wireless into of using the old copper wires. Most people would be very happy with it.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    12:42pm
    Country estates on the NBN? Only an MP could achieve that one as most country towns do not yet have the NBN and will not have for some time.
    Adrianus
    13th May 2016
    1:25pm
    MICK is right Bonny. You must live close to a Labor MP or the electoral office.
    LiveItUp
    13th May 2016
    1:38pm
    Lots of doctors and specialists plus other wealthy business people but no MPs. When they put the NBN on they had five towers to choose from as well. I was actually surprised when they told me that it was available as they said we would get it for years. From what I've heard there was a bad accident in our area and due to the black spot for telecommunications they couldn't get emergency help quickly so they decided to fix it.
    roy
    13th May 2016
    4:19pm
    Love it Franks, very amusing.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    5:05pm
    Most country towns do not yet have the NBN and will not have for some time. Pull the other one Bonny.
    LiveItUp
    13th May 2016
    10:17pm
    I'll think of you Mick as I enjoy my NBN internet.
    MICK
    14th May 2016
    9:44am
    Just a load of BS Bronny. You either do NOT live in a country area or are fibbing. Secondly...why would ANYBODY have a standalone copper phone line when this costs heaps more than a bundled service? Unless of course the phone is paid for by the Liberal Party and you are providing services to it as a past member of parliament.
    roy
    14th May 2016
    1:38pm
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    LiveItUp
    14th May 2016
    3:05pm
    Sadly Mick I can only tell you what I have and that's wireless NBN with the old old copper phone line still connected. Unfortunately I pay for it myself but I welcome donations if you would like to chip in. Even if I sent you photos you wouldn't believe me. So I'll just stay laid back in my comfy chair and watch one of the latest release movies without annoying buffetting thanks to my NBN broadband service that streams wirelessly to my smart TV.

    That's definitely zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    ex PS
    13th May 2016
    11:52am
    If the decision to make changes to the original NBN was made in an honest attempt to provide a better solution to the Ausralian public I could forgive a mistake.
    But this is different, it was a cynical plan to con votes out of voters.
    The best advice at the time indicated that the LNP plan was last generation and would not pass the test of time, it was pretty well accepted by the technology experts that the system would be grossly out of date and not fit for purpose before the project was even finnished.
    This is a perfect example of bad decisions being made for political gain. This government has lost all credibility when it comes to gaining value for money with the funds that they manage on our behalf.
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    12:47pm
    Precisely. The con the electorate was subject to is symptomatic of ingrained dishonesty within big business and its puppets, coalition governments, doing the bidding of their masters.
    I fail to understand how taxpayer money could knowingly be wasted by a government which knew what it was doing. And as normal where is the self proclaimed 'free Press'?

    There is a real need for a federal ICAC to catch out the crooks at the top end of town.
    roy
    13th May 2016
    2:27pm
    MICK for PM, yeah.
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:20pm
    Post Master ? What a good Idea ! :-) Mick will work for $500,000 a year and save us Four and a half Million dollars a Year !! :-) :-)
    MICK
    13th May 2016
    5:03pm
    Sold. When do I start?
    JoJo
    13th May 2016
    2:17pm
    Very disappointing - especially for those in a "black hole".
    Promises! Promises!
    When will it happen - but surely, not if?
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:13pm
    There will be No Cuts to.................& Bla Bla Bla !!! :-)
    MICK
    14th May 2016
    1:29pm
    And...."the NBN I propose will cost less in result in faster connection times". Not sure about the second part but the first can be added to the (long) list of Liberal Party lies for the intellectually challenged who are actually being persuaded by the con game being run in and by the media.
    roy
    14th May 2016
    1:35pm
    MICK. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Von
    15th May 2016
    10:53am
    I live in an area that was one of the first to receive the NBN and I am totally satisfied. Prior to the NBN the internet was not available unless you installed a satellite.
    After the NBN was installed we did have trouble and it was Telstra who went out of their way to help us. Trying to deal with the people at NBN was soul destroying.
    The person who installed the NBN box spoke with us first about where we wanted it mounted and it was done in next to no time.
    PlanB
    15th May 2016
    11:16am
    Von, what size etc is this "box"you speak of please

    16th May 2016
    7:49am
    My daughter's suburb in Brisbane - a heavily populated and quite expensive suburb and not an ''outer'' suburb - doesn't have ANY CONNECTION AT ALL for more than 50% of the population. No NBN. No ADSL. NOTHING AT ALL.

    She's been waiting for connection of some sort for 2 years now, and no hope in sight. Great country we live in!
    Adrianus
    16th May 2016
    8:29am
    This is old news now. From The Australian 5th June 2012.

    "THE National Broadband Network rollout favours suburbs in Labor-held seats before the federal election due next year, with three out of every five to be connected to the $36 billion project falling in ALP electorates.

    Analysis by The Australian of NBN Co's three-year rollout plan has shown that by June 30 next year 416 of the 700 suburbs to be connected to the NBN's fibre rollout, or 59.4 per cent, are in Labor electorates, compared with 34.9 per cent or 244 suburbs in Coalition seats.

    The figures are supported by the seat split, which shows 58 per cent of the electorates that will have some part of the NBN rollout completed within 12 months are held by Labor, compared with 35 per cent for Coalition-held seats. Labor and the Coalition each hold about 48 per cent of the nation's electorates.

    The four independents voted in at the 2010 election hold 2.7 per cent of the nation's seats, but 4.7 per cent of the suburbs to be connected to the NBN by the end of next year will be in those electorates. All four electorates are covered.

    Suburbs in the one Greens-held electorate of Melbourne make up 1 per cent of connections."
    particolor
    16th May 2016
    1:52pm
    God you talk Excreta at Times Frank !! :-)
    Throw that Liberal Rag away and read some Honest Material !! :-)
    Barb
    18th May 2016
    8:08am
    Just had NBN connected but modem supplied has to stay "on" all the time or no telephone service. All other phones in the house are not connected to the modem and therefore are useless. What to do? Also, it is no faster.
    PlanB
    18th May 2016
    1:05pm
    What other phones Barb -- I have a cordless phone with a base and two hand sets for the landline -- hope they will still work as I have not had them all that long
    Barb
    19th May 2016
    7:19am
    New to this. Anyway, the other phones are in the kitchen and bedrooms and all connected to lines in the wall, except the one now connected directly into the NBN modem and the only one that has a dial tone.
    Barb
    19th May 2016
    7:15am
    Thanks for that Plan B. I'll go out and buy a cordless set. At lease I won't have to run in and answer the phone when I'm outside in the garden.
    PlanB
    19th May 2016
    8:37am
    Barb just make sure that the cordless works with the NBN -- I don't have the NBN as yet -- love the cordless -- I have the Panasonic -- it has lots of bells and whistles but check them all out
    PlanB
    19th May 2016
    8:38am
    BArb you can also get phones that have lots of hand sets if that what you want, I only have the two and find thats heaps
    Barb
    20th May 2016
    3:27pm
    That's great info, Plan B. Thank you. I'll check it all out before going to the expense of purchasing handsets. Barb
    particolor
    9th Aug 2016
    2:08pm
    WHAT'S NBN ??? :-)


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