Holden to pull out of Australia

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Holden boss Mike Devereux announced yesterday that the company will stop manufacturing cars in Australia by the end of 2017.

Nearly 3000 Holden workers will be directly affected by the closure of manufacturing operations in Australia while unions have suggested the decision would cost 50,000 jobs in the auto sector. Rival carmaker Toyota also warned that Holden’s decision would put pressure on its ability to manufacture cars in Australia.

When questioned on why Holden had made the decision, Mr Devereux said that the car industry in Australia is facing a combination of negative influences which included the high cost of production, the price of the Australian dollar and the size of the domestic market. “Building cars in this country is just not sustainable” said Mr Devereux.

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Opinion: The inevitable end of an era

The writing has been on the wall for the Australian car industry and manufacturing in general for the past decade, so Holden’s announcement yesterday came as no surprise to anyone. Unlike other struggling industries, such as print publishing, significant government handouts have propped up the car industry. With the new Coalition-led Federal Government making it very clear over, the past two weeks, that it had no intention of continuing the levels of hand-outs which were given by the previous government, Holden’s timeline to pull out of building its cars in Australia seems to have been brought forward to 2017.

The unions are painting this announcement as doomsday for the industry, with 50,000 workers expected to lose their jobs due to Holden’s withdrawal from Australia. In reality, even if these workers are made redundant and forced to find different jobs, there is a full three years before this stoppage occurs.

My first car I ever owned was a Holden and I’m certainly a little disappointed to think that future generations won’t have the opportunity to drive an Australian made version. I’m also a realist and understand that you have to know when to end a bad relationship, no matter the history. Starting as a saddlery business in 1856, Holden is a part of Australian history and even though its cars may be manufactured outside of Australia, I suspect the company will continue to have a strong future in the country.

What do you think? Will you ever consider buying a Holden or Ford which is manufactured outside of Australia? Do you sympathise with those 50,000 car-manufacturing workers who will need to find a new industry to work in? Should the Federal Government have done more to keep Holden manufacturing in Australia?

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    Companies that were originally Australian owned (QANTAS and Arnott’s to name two of several) which have been taken over by large overseas companies exist at the whim of their shareholders. No shareholders in America, Europe or Asia care about the sentimental attachment Australians may feel toward these iconic brands. For these once proud Australian companies to find themselves under foreign control, one must ask how this came to be. People who originally owned stock in these iconic companies sold their shares which were purchased by overseas interests. I wonder if these people join in the sentimental anguish and gnashing of teeth of those that decry the cessation of production of Ford and Holden in Australia. Like it or not, money, profitability or financial loss dictate the decisions made by the corporate executives on behalf of their stockholders. For them, it is a matter of “profit or perish” at the next stockholder AGM.
    Still don’t like it? The Yuppies should have bought Falcons or Commodores instead of German, Italian, Japanese, Swedish, British of French luxury cars for the “bragging rights” these cars confer on their owners. The consumers have “spoken” and the results will speak for themselves. Now Australian agricultural land and corporations are in the sights of overseas conglomerates. Joe Hockey knocked the sale of Graincorp on the head which is good, but “the wolves are still at the door” looking for other properties to take over.
    The “Globalisation is Good For You” mantra from the 1990’s is bearing bitter fruit For Australia in ways unforseen then. The blizzard of free trade agreements see foreign produced goods outselling Australian made goods. Will the Australian government keep trying to be the “international good guy” (or mug) at the expense of the workers or will it start acting on policies to benefit Australians for a change? Watch this space.

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      The downside of Globilisation was foreseen back in the 90’s but no one was listening. It is just a further step in the on-going take over by big business. It is Capitalism at its strongest and worst.
      It amazes me the pollies are still talking about huge growths on population without any thought about a growth in employment possibilities. We are still stuck with the Peter Costello definition of employment as 1 hour per week.
      I hate to be a doomsayer but Australia is heading to become the poor white trash of Asia.

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    Anyone would have to sympathize with a person about to loose their job because the company they work for is closing down. What the real concern is – why is that company closing down and in Holden’s case it appears to be the old bug bear of the high cost of production.

    The high cost of the dollar certainly wouldn’t help but the nemesis of high wages always seems to be the main sticking point. So how do we fix the problem? Well the answer according to those companies who have already bitten the bullet and have done a similar thing is to produce their goods overseas. And what occurs then? Joe Average still pays a high price for the same article made overseas (supposedly with a much cheaper labour component) so where’s the gain in doing this way? Simple! Any gain goes straight into the pockets of the company shareholders and this is why companies move off shore. They have no other interest but ripping off some other poor fool who is prepared to work for a pittance so that they can further increase their capacity to line their greedy little pockets.

    I hope anyone dumb enough to buy a Holden (watch for the name change) made overseas, deserves what they’re likely to get – an overpriced piece of crap!

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    I feel so sorry for all the mature aged workers. Hopefuly they will be able to find another job and not be like me- unemployed for over 15 months after over 500 job applications.

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      Our country has been going backwards for years. Most people don’t want to work through the welfare system and the rest pretend to work. Far too many unproductive workers. Different from other countries. We are a mob of over weight softies no wonder we cannot compete with workers in other countries. They are efficient and we are not. We were much different many years ago. So learn to really work again and cut down on all the boozeing.

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      Spot on Dogs Body. I was in the work force for 55 years and never had to ask for a pay increase as I applied my self and my employer recognised this and I got employer voluntary pay increases.

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      You are right Bofor. I was similar to you and we didn’t need 10 men to do the work of four. Far too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Look at all the unproductive beauracrats roaming around with all their entitlements. The place needs a real shake up and return to the days when men were men, not pawns running around trying to shirk some work. They get full of self pity if they happen to raise a sweat.

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      what a load of rubbish. I worked hard for 58 years and never got a pay rise I didn’t have to ask for and to argue a case to get. Australians are hard workers, in general, and yes there are people on welfare who avoid getting a job but there are more who want a job and can’t get it.
      There also hordes who are underemployed by only getting a few hours a week but are classed as employed and therefore do not qualify for the dole but sure as hell cannot live on the pittance they receive at work.
      A major reason we are inefficient is because similar counties to Australia invest heavily in technology while here if the investment is not returned in 2 years it doesn’t happen. I can assure you that workers in Germany do not have to do the heavy lifting our guys have to do in factories and workshops.

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      I think you are right Dogs Body. We are becoming too soft as a nation. What makes me angry though is the attitude of bosses and those in charge of divisions and companies who think they are above the law. Maybe employers should consider employing Australians who were born in Australia and want to work before employing someone who has either just arrived in the country or who can barely speak the language.

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      Nutriwise— Of course existing Australians should get employment before out siders but many Aussies turn their nose up at menial tasks. The biggest problem is as you say, the so called bosses of which there is far to many. Most have no ability to organise the work force. Just have a look at the men doing road works. Pitiful. Other people could get work, but won’t leave the cities. Aussies were very good workers years ago, but a pot bellied beer swilling mob, that are old before their time has emerged.

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      The Mature Aged, I stress Mature Aged workers, will be rubbing their hands with glee, and good on them, their redundancy packages will be more money than they could have dreamed of at normal retirement! I have disclosed before that I occasionally play golf with a Qantas manager, she told me a story of a Qantas Engineer who was retiring at age 60, his retirement party and the lot was all planned for August, but in the meantime Dixon brought in another of his redundancy packages for overmanned staff, consequently his retirement was rescinded and he was made redundant with another $500,000 in his pocket, she also told me that although her salary is in excess of $100,000, her staff earn far more than her, one example is that if a supervisor cannot be relieved for a meal break at four hours then they are entitled to double pay until such time as they are relieved, so (suprise suprise) they are not relieved until their next shift relief after fifteen minutes hand over comes on. I queried why they do not have more relieving supervisors, the reply was that the union would not allow it, and contract employees are not allowed access to overtime until a full time employee cannot be found.

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      Well said Tom Tank….. Dogs Body and Bofor… how very lovely for you to have landed two separate ANGEL employers. So because you were LUCKY, you sit back condemning any other worker for wanting what you had…. a fair days work for a fair days pay.

      Running down Australian workers is disgusting…. Australians have been shown (statistically & otherwise) to be one of the hardest workers in the world.

      Stop being so smug about how YOU did alright, give some thought to those who are being screwed and stop spewing corporate media/liberal rubbish about Australians.

      Oh! 457 visas are one thing but IF someone is a permanent resident of Australia, they ARE Australian and need to live and work just like everyone else. Govt. policy as to migration may be the place to start because once they are here, they are as entitled as you are to LIVE.

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    I too sympathise with those who will lose their jobs in the Holden factory..There is a bigger concern in all of this…What about all those industries that supply parts to our car maker…Some one said there will 20000 jobs lost there as well. I suppose it is just another industry that will be lost to Australia.
    We dig shit out of the ground and send it overseas to be processed at the expense of aussie jobs (instead of doing it all here)
    We export live cattle now at the expense of aussie jobs
    Pretty soon we will process nothing and rely totally on the outside world for everything.
    Soon our imports will be higher than our exports (if they aren’t already) and we will all pay through the nose for everything…We sure do business in funny ways here…..

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      Dead Right. Its a bloody shame that a great country is going down the gurgler. Poor taxpayers getting hammered to prop up inefficient industry. Well it won’t go on for ever, that is for sure. Far too many stealing out of the public purse. The cake is getting smaller. Why the hell are we bowing to Moslem beliefs and sending all this live stock overseas. The world is screaming out for our meat and it should all be pre packed in Australia. It could provide many thousands of jobs. Perhaps that work is too hard. We should all eat less and get rid of our pot bellies. We will never be able to keep up our present standard of living.

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      Nice Jurassicgeek

      Dogs Body…. what the hell… what has Muslims got to do with anything. Our biggest industry is resources and Australia has handed them over to (mostly) FOREIGN corporations.

      That is why YOU and everyone else should be screaming at ABBOTT to tell Murdoch to bugger off and put in Labor’s NBN. With that, Australia would have a future. As it goes to everyone, innovation is unlimited.

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      Mussitate, I wouldn’t expect you to get it, but exporting livestock to Moslem countries so they can be killed in their methods, which is letting them bleed to death, instead of having a full pre pack industry for all our farm produce means we are missing out on thousands of jobs. I wouldn’t expect you to care Mussitate as all you can harp on about is Murdoch and Abbott.

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      Must you rate– Stick to the subject, its about jobs for Aussies, or haven’t you noticed.

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      Dogs Body

      I suggest you shake that stagnant water off you, old son.

      Don’t like me mentioning that YOUR BOY Abbott is a marionette to Murdoch and will do whatever this FOREIGN magnate wants him to do….. even cripple Australia, so that Murdoch and his cronies can suck out OUR wealth into their own pockets.

      Gorton was a brilliant Liberal PM…. Abbott is not only pathetic, he has SOLD out Australia and the Australian people! Nothing to do with anything other than that and the more you stand behind this FOOL irrespective of what he does to this country, the less I think of you.

      Oh! and DON’T pretend you give a hoot about the ordinary worker because your TOTAL support of ABBOTT, no matter what he does or doesn’t do, shows us how hypocritical you are.

      The thing with jobs …… why limit yourself to castigating muslims, what about the (mostly FOREIGN) mega mining corporations, using support industries from overseas rather than Australia and using 457 visas to get in CHEAP workers, rather than pay proper wages to Australian workers. Mining has NOT slowed and profits are even higher because of this BUT NOTHING is FLOWING BACK INTO AUSTRALIA. Little in support industries, little in wages to Australians BUT mega profits flowing OUT overseas to FOREIGN investors!!!!!

      Re: Topics….. 1) who do you think you are, dictating what is said; & 2) what does muslims and live sheep exports have to do with HOLDEN, if we are going to be PICKY.

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      Mustitate/Moorlands No use wasting any more time answering your stupid untrue statements. We all know you are not quite all there and no one takes any notice of your long winded manuscripts. Just accept we now have a decent government trying to bring the country back from the brink after the disaster left by labor. You really have to accept reality. Just go away.

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      Mussitate, Abbott and his cronies are all in bed with Murdock and that is not likely to change….impeach the bum..

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    The Howard Govt didn’t assist Ansett and we lost a great airline. What is it with LNP governments? Can’t they govern for good of their citizens? And all these people saying that workers should take pay cuts, AS LONG AS THEIR PAY IS NOT AFFECTED!!!! Democracy is Australia is not the democracy it should be. Just turn on the TV and watch the performance of the present speaker of the House of Representatives! The media has a lot to answer for as well!

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      Roscoe have you ever read the Ansett story? Obviously not or you would know the Howard government had nothing to do with Ansetts` demise, the Companys` directors were to blame aided by unions wages increases.

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      Errrrrh Bofor…. unions wages increases… oh please, really. You are going to BASH the Australian (hard) worker for wanting a decent wage for their work?? Management doing the dirty (see next paragraph) and being incompetent is another thing BUT a government bail out could be dependent upon a government representative being placed on the board and hence overseeing operations and managements.

      EXAMPLE of what used to occur BEFORE the LABOR government implemented Fringe Benefits Tax in 1986:
      Company pays directors and CEO’s $20,000 in wages BUT issues them ALL with company credit cards to purchase whatever they want, including food, etc. The Company also pays their high class rents or mortgages, provides them with a rolls royce or equivalent each to drive in, and some even got their own jets to buzz about in. A Win/Win for all because the Company’s profit is GREATLY reduced and very little tax is paid and they can plead for GOVT HANDOUTS….AND all those that matter – Board Members (usually from the major shareholders) and the CEO’s – only pay tax on the $20,000 they received but everything they own or use is paid for by the company.

      The best part is that ordinary shareholders and the public were none the wiser.

      The leaches bled the company dry and then called for handouts (if you or I asked for handouts, the companies would be screaming “socialism” but if corporations do it, it is called well the governments duty). Remember the saying “PRIVATISE the PROFITS and SOCIALISE the LOSSES”, well Ansett and Budget took this to a whole new level.

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      Mozzie- Bait, Stop all your mumbo jumbo.

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      Dogs Body

      Bit like a dog with a bone…. guess you need something to keep you occupied. Thinking doesn’t seem to do it for you.

      The example above is from a real life situation (can’t name the corporation), so what is it my little one that you can’t understand…. given you consider it mumbo jumbo.

      Is it the fleas that stop you concentrating or your continual need to ….. let’s just say ‘clean’ yourself.

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      Dogs Body

      Just another little example of a mega corporation MISMANAGEMENT – CHEVRON.

      Chevron are saying that the Gorgon project has had one problem after another and the cost blow out is due to the unions.

      The project cost percentage that relates to the workers is ….. wait for it….. LESS than 1% of the overall cost. Now, if that causes a project to blow out to $59billion….. WOW! How badly mismanaged are these executives.

      The project problems have nothing to do with the workers OR the unions but CHEVRON are careful to put unions, wage costs, & project problems in the one statement, so that ALL seems to be the fault of the unions instead of GROSS MISMANAGEMENT by CHEVRON.

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      Mussitate – Good On ye!

      From the foregoing discussion is is obvious that there are some that DO NOT WANT to be educated.
      That is why they are attacking the integrity of the person rather than providing evidence to disprove the facts you put forward.
      When they are attacking the PLAYER rather than the BALL, they just cannot provide reasonable argument against the facts provided.

      No I’m not for labour either.
      As far as I’m concerned ALL POLITICIANS are committing treason by “Selling this Country OUT” to the multinationals.
      Shamefull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    It is sad to see Holden cease to produce cars in Australia as indeed it was in the case of Ford and Mitsibushi but has anyone really stopped to consider why?
    To answer that question you have to go back to the beginning and ask why these companies commenced operating in the first place. Answer> To supply a product and make a profit.

    How does a company make a profit? It makes a product or provides a service that is sold at a price that people will pay and leave money over and above the FULL production costs.

    How can they keep sale prices in the equation. They can cut quality nah no good, they can cut wages, nah the unions would scream blue murder, they can cut profit nah they go broke.

    The problem is with number 2 WAGES.
    So many Australian jobs have been lost in so many areas due to the misguided workers who are led like sheep by their unions asking for wages beyond what the profit making capabilities of the employer can afford over the long term.

    Unions did a great job getting workers out of the often appalling conditions in yesteryear but they have now succeeded in getting hundreds of thousand workers out of work in successive years.

    The workers have been brainwashed to belief employers have a bottomless pool of money which the workers have a right to exploit. Wages are the biggest single component of any product made in Australia.

    We have all gotten into this comfort zone of “we are entitled to have 2 cars, countless TVs , flash houses ( by previous standards) and to get all this and more requires money.

    We have affectively priced ourselves out of the market, wages wise.

    I do not for one second say we should live in poverty BUT we also do not NEED to be paid the wages most of us feel we deserve.

    Manufacturers have a obligation to their share holders to get a Return On Investment and when the ROI drops to a unacceptable level, bingo business gone.

    I know I am going to get cries of anguish and condemnation for suggesting we are over paid but ask yourself if you had the money that Holden has in infrastucture and the like, wouldn`t you want a decent ROI?

    My idea is a decent wage and increases in line with the CPI each year. But no the unions want 8,10% increases and frankly it has been proven we cannot sustain that type of increase.

    We are victims of our own greed.

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      Great article Bofor and I agree completely. The CEO and other top brass should be paid salaries in keeping with what is reasonable and in line with the workers wages. This has got completely top heavy and these people are getting idiotic salaries, even if the concern is going broke. We just cannot expect the long suffering tax payers to prop up inefficient industry or to feather the nests of our other lot of bludgers that won’t work. Profitability is about good management and worker efficiency. Top workers should always be rewarded. Drones should have their wages cut.

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      Thanks Dogs Body

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      I have been saying this for a long time Bofor, but nobody wanted to see it. The other part of the problem after WAGES, is REAL ESTATE; prices have gone up and up guided by these RE agents, who are guided by greed, especially when the Reserve bank keeps reducing the interest rate, -that doesn’t help. Back in the 70s when interest rates were in the 14% range, we never had the problems like we have now. I think the RBA should start to slowly increase the rate, and bring house prices to a more realistic level, I mean why should a house suddenly jump up by $28K – $40K, when it has just sat there for 12 months. Yes I think the unions have a lot to answer. Take a walk down the main street of Townsville, for example, and
      see how many businesses have closed down because they can’t afford the staff any longer.

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      A lot of our problems stem from 6 years of labor government and the huge blow out in debt. Do you know how much our interest bill is before we start making profit. Rudd/Gillard/Rudd wrecked this country and the repercussions are just showing up now, with business unable to survive. Are we all happy with our power bill, NO, well let the coalition get rid of the bloody taxes.

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      Really Bofor…..

      TAKE from the Australian worker and GIVE it to the much deserving CEO, directors and shareholders of a FOREIGN mega corporation, who take all their loot home with them.

      As Dogs Body’s tail wagging stated, they deserve it a LOT MORE than any lowly Australian Worker.

      Screw the workers, keep them poor and eventually we can become the USA whereby the average person has to work three jobs to get ONE decent PAY.

      Yeah, …. good one.

      Dogs Body

      WHAT! WHAT!! Labor caused a DEBT blow out….. are you totally INSANE.

      Under Labor we had the best economy in the world, one of the most egalitarian in the world AND we had one of the LOWEST DEBTS in the WORLD!!!!!!

      These proclamations were NOT by me, the labor party, etc, it was established INTERNATIONALLY and the figures were applied to ALL countries and Australia HIT the TOP of the World.

      Within THREE (3) months of ABBOTT and his (foreign) Corporate Mates taking control, Australia has started on the downward SLIDE …..

      Now, Dogs Body, I want you to concentrate here…. the BIGGEST downward SLIDE is with our DEBT. The LIBS want to increase it to MORE THAN $500billion. You got that Dogs Body…. YOUR BLOKE is INCREASING AUSTRALIA’S DEBT! Rudd, kept that same DEBT to the one of the LOWEST in the WORLD.

      So, cut the cr*p Dogs Body! Sheez

      Frank

      Excellent and valid point. Also, removing ‘negative gearing’ would be a good step as well.

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      Mussitate —- You never get it do you. I do feel sorry for you. Now Rudd inherited a credit of 19 billion, then proceeded to have us in debt to the tune of 400 billion. Did you understand that????? In order to keep afloat we have a debt ceiling of 500 Billion. You do not seem to understand what a debt ceiling is. How much interest do we pay on the present blow out of 400 billion caused completely by Rudd/Gillard. You would be unable to work that out, but it has left the Libs well behind the eight ball. So stop your lies about Rudd and co and stick to the truth. You have been peddling misinformation far too long on this site and will not face the truth. Please please old chap, just get real.

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      Poo, did someone fart? or is that dog sh.t I can smell?

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      Moorlands/Mussitate —-No answer for that one, have you. Pathetic dickhead.

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    business plays labour governments for the saps they are; Holden knew all this when they shamelessly put their hand out. Libreal governments mrecilessly attack the weakest in society as bludgers. It is good this time they have so far refused to continue this charade.

    Cars will never survive as an industry in oz. we need to stop wasting tax dollars on unproductive businesses as this public purse is always attacked by government leaders eager to show what good managers they are.

    workers need viable jobs in viable industries long term. taxpayers cannot fund lame ducks so that directors can pay themselves huge salaries for years while they rip off their owrkers and the public purse.

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      nice comment anony…

      Maybe, we can retain some industry by the government taking it over and modernising it, so that it comes close to breaking even.

      A win/win for all, workers and communities flourish, spin off industries flourish and add wealth to the economy and the GOVT funds spent are basically recouped or in the LEAST are LESS than the hand outs given to greedy, foreign mega corporations.

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    IT’S THE OVERPAID IDIOTS WITH THE SHINY SUITS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT CAUSE COMPANYS LIKE THIS TO GO DOWN THE DRAIN.. AND WITHOUT THESE FUND BLEEDERS THE PRICE OF VEHICLES COULD BE REDUCED, SO MORE WOULD BE SOLD?????

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      The overpaid people you refer to LENYJAC are not idiots nor do they have shiny suits. Suits become shiny when used for a long time but the people you refer to would change their suits long before they became shiny. But they are overpaid in some instances I must agree.

      Feed peanuts, get monkeys.

      However if you reduced all their wages it would be a mere drop in the bucket compared with the work force wages bill.

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      What a lot of tommyrot Bofor…. that is what YOU have been fed by the wealthy elite.

      Do you really believe that these UNDER ACHIEVERS deserve to earn $3333 a second (that is what some of the really big boys get)….. I don’t think so!

      And NO… it would NOT be a mere drop in the bucket! Adding these peoples incomes to the workers pay trough increases the average wage substantially. Workers actually WORK for their money, the wealthy elite parasites, do not.

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      Must You Rate — What a bitter twisted old man you are. Jealousy and envy are your problems. Don’t you understand that if there were not businesses owned by wealthy, then no one would have a job. You don’t even understand the basics. Stop peddling your socialistic crap and stop your lies. You could do damage to some poor soul that might believe you.

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      Poo, did someone fart? or is that dog sh.t I can smell?

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      Musti-Bait/Moorlands — No answer to that either. What happened to your host of knowledge??????????????????????

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    Aha, Chicken Little is alive and well. Remember that childrens book where the chicken went into a melt down ‘cos she thought the sky was falling in?
    “It’s the end of car manufacturing in Australia” and even “The end of (all) manufacturing in Australia” were being screamed from the news and headlines…
    Great opportunity here for somebody! I was gunna call Dick Smith to tell him yet another great Aus icon name was up for grabs cheap (Holden), but I see that although GMH didn’t make it’s decision to quit until the last moment, it had already decided to rebadge it’s future imported cars as Holdens!
    So how do we produce our own cars (again) at a reasonable price?
    What’s happened to the spirit our predecessors bought to Aus? We used to look after ourselves. Some of our older farmers still do. I remember not so long ago calling into a farm to pay homage to a new million dollar plus tractor and ploughing rig that had just been imported, (and was the farmers pride-n-joy). Only to find the the farmer with the huge plough dissassembled and he was re-shaping the blades with a hammer and anvil!
    “They bloody got it wrong”, he said, (with a few more expletives)…
    Next day I saw him happily ploughing and doing a great job…
    …and the original combine harvester was invented and manufactured by a little factory in Sunshine, Victoria, giving us an incredible lead over the rest of the world…
    It’s about time we used, and backed our own inventors.
    For instance, surely we can produce the worlds best solar cars with our inventiveness, practicality, climate and distances?
    Just get the government (or others) to sponsor a competition for a single seater commuter vehicle and see how many creations come out of backyard sheds…
    Better end it there or I’ll be accused of rambling…
    Turbo

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      Turbo too long to make your point, but please do not make out that Dick Smith is a good example, he made his billions from importing cheap Asian electrical products, now he has the audacity to sprout “Buy Australian “

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      HELLO Now we have MOORLANDS alias MUITATE telling more lies. Do you argue with yourself MUSSITATE????? We all know you are one and the same. Who is winning??? What fun you are having trying to fool the people as usual. Don’t be a silly old coot. P”””ss OFF.

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      Poo, did someone fart? or is that dog sh.t I can smell?

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      Moorlands/ Mozzie Bait ________ What wit.

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    So many things contributing to the demise of our manufacturing , the whole business needs a rethink , we have high rents and taxes , we have continual raises in wages, inflation grows, every one tries to keep up? the cost of power and water and transport! all sky high, and red tape, enough to strangle every thing, I hear in many other car producing countries Government subsidies are many times more than here, I believe we are the lowest country to aid our industry? so where do we start, and can we afford not to have manufacturing industry here? I can remember the 2nd world war, and we could have easily been over run in the UK, then the sheer guts of the people got that up and running again, but in todays world it would be too late, we need the indusry here to supply us , we can be self sufficient, this Globalisation is behind it and I doubt we have any pollies of any party who can stop it, they seem to be serving a different master than the Australian people.

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Is the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine safe? Health minister Greg Hunt is assuring Australians it is after it was reported that...

Lifestyle

Great things about ageing - as Dawn French says 'it's not for wusses'

A lot of people fear growing older but, if you ask us, the ageing process brings some great benefits, too...

Finance News

The top five things this leading economist thinks will happen in 2021

Saying the year 2020 wasn't a great one for the economy is a bit of an understatement. Shops shuttered, businesses...

Health news

Scientists closer to developing 'smart' stem cells made from human fat

Much controversy has surrounded stem cell research, and yet therapies and treatments involving stem cells have the capacity to treat...

Wellbeing

Top 2021 new year's resolutions revealed

We may be halfway through January, but it's not too late to make a new year's resolution. "It’s human nature...

Uncategorized

Spinach and Parmesan Crustless Quiche

In The Midlife Method, food and lifestyle writer Sam Rice explores why it is so much harder to lose weight...

Age Pension

Important details on how your income stream information is updated

Updating Income Stream InformationHi everyone, I wanted to chat about income stream reviews and how they may affect your Age...

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