Mathieson hits out at first lady

Margie Abbott is not doing enough charity work, according to Tim Mathieson.

Mathieson hits out at first lady

Despite maintaining her part-time role as director of a Sydney childcare centre, Margie Abbott is not doing enough charity work, according to Tim Mathieson.

The partner of ex-Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who didn’t work while he held his supporting role, has attacked Tony Abbott’s wife. Speaking to Melbourne’s Herald Sun, Mr Mathieson said of Margie Abbott, “I’m disappointed that she is not doing any charity work.

“What is she doing? Because I did 60 charity events. She has not contributed to any of them.”

The Prime Minister’s office chose to hit back with a list of perks afforded to Mr Mathieson while in his role supporting Julia Gillard, but a spokeswoman for Mrs Abbott detailed the charity and community events she had attended and supported in the past few months. “Those familiar with Margie Abbott know her quiet and understated approach is part of her genuine desire to draw attention to the charities and organisations she is involved with rather than herself,” said the spokeswoman. Two of the organisations Mrs Abbott works closely with are the Girl Guides and the Royal Blind Society.

The Prime Minister’s office responded that, in the seven months since the election, Mrs Abbott had increased her work and listed several events she has attended in her own right. “These events are in addition to those she attends with the Prime Minister,” the spokeswoman said.

Read more at SMH.com.au


Opinion: Get back in your box, Tim

Tim Mathieson, it appears, is suffering from jealousy. He’s struggling to remain relevant now Julia has left politics and its perks behind and he has decided to hit out at the person who now holds his much beloved role.

As ‘first bloke’ Tim Mathieson may well have undertaken 60 charity events but given that he did very little else, 60 events doesn’t amount to very much over Julia’s three years in office. As the Prime Minister’s office has pointed out, he did enjoy his fair share of sporting hospitality over the same period, but as these invitations are commonly extended to all Prime Ministers and their partners, this is irrelevant – a little like Tim himself.

As first lady, Margie Abbott has the right to choose to work part-time. Therese Rein, as wife of Kevin Rudd, ran her own business. She also has the right to choose which charities and organisations she supports and to what level she can do so. She does not need to pick up where Tim Mathieson left off, as he has suggested.

There is an expectation on all partners of prime minsters to undertake charity work, as has been the case since the time of Edward Barton. And just as Mr Mathieson, the first male partner of a prime minister chose not to work, Mrs Abbott has the right to choose to continue to work and find the right balance for her and her family.

All too often women are criticised for trying to do it all and usually, this comes from men who have no idea what is entailed in running a family, a home and a job. Throw in the constant media interest in your every move and the task becomes all the more difficult.

So Mrs Abbott, keep doing what you’re doing and don’t let a disgruntled little man get to you.

Are these comments from Tim just sour grapes or do you agree with him? Should the Prime Minister’s partner be able to organise his/her life independently of the Prime Minister?





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    LENYJAC
    26th May 2014
    9:57am
    Whats this (FIRST LADY) crap,, Australia does not have a first lady.. or are we going more and more american..
    FrankC
    26th May 2014
    3:53pm
    Spot on , lennyjac. Another Americanism, which is just as bad as the local Costco here In Northlakes, north of Brissie, selling 'Costco Gasolene". What a bloody cheek. We have been calling it pretrol since Noah bought his first ute. You would have thought they could have put 'Costco Petrol' on the bowser, then again , they wouldn't would they, after all this is Australia, something the bastards who took this business here seem to forget.!! I mentioned this to the girl mwho was helping out on the bowsers and at least she agreed totally with me.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    5:37pm
    Short Back and Sides and a Bit off the Front Anyone ??
    Kiri
    26th May 2014
    5:59pm
    Spot on. It's like trying to stem a tide, all these creeping Americanisms ... but at least it's good to know it annoys other people too.
    geomac
    26th May 2014
    9:58am
    I am curious why the Heraldsun interviewed Tim in the first place . Was he asked to comment on Mrs Abbott and her charity work ? I am disappointed that she is not doing any charity work is hardly what I would term an attack but an observation . An observation that has no merit as I find the first lady or first bloke stuff to be rubbish anyway .
    LENYJAC
    26th May 2014
    10:05am
    HERE HERE..
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    1:38pm
    Don't attack Abbott or even Gillard. Australia is a mess because we had the worst PM ever (Kevin Rudd) wasting Billions of Dollars by opening the door to the people smugglers. We will paying for his stupidity for a long time to come. Keep families out of gutter politics.
    biddi
    26th May 2014
    2:53pm
    Ok : thank God we got rid of KRudd for the reasons you mention.
    Unfortunately, he still seems to pop up now and again. Please, KR, go away.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    10:06am
    PM Abbott wife Mrs Abbott should be doing her chariety work like the other PM did when they were in office.........dont give me this crap 1st lady either
    SuzeB
    26th May 2014
    12:44pm
    It seems Mrs Abbot does do charity work. She just doesn't need a camera pointing at her while she's doing it. What a creep Mathieson is. He must be missing all the attention.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    3:17pm
    SuzeB, wHO IS PAYING YOU TO SAY THESE KIND WORDS??? More information??
    you say Tim is a creep?? thats is your opinion, But Mrs Abbott no beauty either.
    KSS
    26th May 2014
    3:35pm
    Tia Maria, Do you still believe the earth is flat? Just because you seem willing to believe the allegations made by Mr Matthieson, doesn't make them true.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    6:29pm
    kss HE WAS A ASKED A QUESTION????? AND ANSWER.........
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    9:07pm
    tia-maria, what has the private life of Mrs.Abbott to do with you?
    Bookworm
    26th May 2014
    10:09am
    Excellent article. This freeloader obviously misses the limelight and all the lurks and perks he received. He was an embarrassment to our country - remember the clothes he wore whilst reviewing troops with Gillard? A total bogan.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    11:08am
    Hey Bookworm, I think tony Abbott is an embarrassment and his wife does not do what other ex-PM wivies did when they were in office ............... yes a typical Liberal voter.................. just not like me a Labor
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:04pm
    I always dress up like General McArthur when I Review the Troops !!!!
    Judy in the hills
    26th May 2014
    10:13am
    Tim Who? Who does he think he is? Most of us have forgotten who he is. Is he working now? Or perhaps doing charity work each day? What's the betting?
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    11:11am
    Judy of the hills, Mrs Abbott needs to do chariety work to make up for the money thats being spent on the lodge????????????
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    11:11am
    Judy of the hills, Mrs Abbott needs to do chariety work to make up for the money thats being spent on the lodge????????????
    biddi
    26th May 2014
    11:16am
    Judy in the hills : Tim's gone back to crimping.
    HappySoul
    27th May 2014
    4:44pm
    tia-maria check and you will find the refurbishment work being done on the Lodge was organised when Julie Gillard was PM and the contractors took possession of the site 16 days after our current government was elected.
    I have no problems with essential work being done the Lodge or any other government building with significant heritage and in this instance it is to prevent further deterioration of the building .
    Judy in the hills
    26th May 2014
    10:19am
    We all know the George Orwell’s Animal Farm story, but aren't we raking through old coals. This award was in 2011 - its now 2014!!
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:50pm
    What Award ?? Hairdresser of the Year ?? Or has the Subject Changed again ??
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    5:40pm
    Is that the one which goes "all pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others". I remember it well Judy. It says a lot about politicians....not the bit about "pigs".
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:33am
    The author, Debbie McTaggart writes "All too often women are criticised for trying to do it all". This pretty well explains how the author thinks and this more of the same rubbish where women are afforded bigger problems in life than men is as amusing as it is false. A new illness to bleat about appears on TV every fortnight whilst bloke get one run a year even though things like prostrate cancer kill as many of them as breast cancer does women. I'd like to see McTaggart and her kind stop writing biased sexist articles. These should be things of the past but are sadly not.

    Whilst this article is little more than trash one does need to realise that Abbott lied during the campaign, is lying about the budget now and that his defence of his wife, whilst perfectly understandable, is more than likely more of the same. It would be so nice to get a prime minister who really cares about the country and does not just say that he does so that he can get a class warfare style budget through. I dare say I wait in vain though.
    Bookworm
    26th May 2014
    10:48am
    Chill out, Mick! How is this a biased, sexist article? Ms McTaggart was not writing about health issues. Stick to the subject!! FYO, it's prostate, not prostrate.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:55am
    The point I was trying to make (badly) is that the author is showing the same bias as the TV news and current affairs programs: 'poor us'. Abbott's wife is apparently being victimised whilst the reality is that she is in the public eye and needs to get the same scrutiny as everyone else. Whilst I really care little about the hangers on the criticism is a fair thing.
    Tom Tank
    26th May 2014
    10:45am
    While I believe that Tim Matheson is way out of line and should pull his head in there is a sneaking suspicion that the Herald-Sun (Murdoch owned) set this up.
    There was a double page article in Sunday's Herald-Sun pointing the finger at Labor Party travel expenses. Since all pollies have their snouts in the trough when it comes to travel, including retired ones, cynical old me smells a rat on the timing of it. Is this to take the heat of Tony?
    I also agree about this first lady nonsense. If we have a first lady surely that is the Queen.
    LENYJAC
    26th May 2014
    10:58am
    YES HERE HERE..
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    10:48am
    Firstly, an honest response to an interviewer's question is hardly 'an attack'.
    However, surely the whole purpose of the PM's partner being involved in charity work is that they bring media attention to the cause through their high profile. Doing it in a "quiet and understated manner" is rather counter-productive. Mrs Abbott didn't mind taking the media spotlight along with her daughters to elect her husband but has now become camera shy. Speaking of daughters and perks, with one Abbott daughter being given career opportunities beyond her experience over the heads of more senior colleagues at the UN, and the other being given a 'scholarship' kept secret from other possible applicants, perhaps Mrs Abbott has reason to keep a low profile.
    SuzeB
    26th May 2014
    12:56pm
    So daughters of a PM can't possible have any skills or talent? Are you for real? And what polly doesn't have his/her family with them at election time. How pathetic. All I can say to that garbage is repeat what the PM's office spokeswoman said:

    "I have nothing further to add except to say, if you have been assured that everything was transparent, above board and merits based and the appointment was made during the term of a Labor government, exactly what is your story?"
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    1:33pm
    I think it is disgusting gutter politics to attack family members. Any girl winning a scholarship on her own merits deserves praise and not slimy comment by gutter licking journalists.
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    1:42pm
    To SuzeB, the appointment may have been made during the term of a previous government but both the appointment and the scholarship originated from members of the Liberal old boys club. These young women no doubt have many skills and talents other than posing in tight-fitting clothing behind their father, in which case it is very sad to see them relying on inside contacts rather than those skills and talents. It is very relevant at a time when their father is slamming educational doors in the face of less well-connected young people. I am also sure approval of the original UN appointment didn't include her being catapulted over the heads of colleagues with greater skills and talent.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    2:27pm
    Why don't you try to proof your slanderous remarks!
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    3:22pm
    SuzeB everyone is entitle to an opinion................please dont forget that
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:06pm
    Ok: you must be a naive soul. Even Abbott's daughter's classmates cried foul. The scholarship was clearly not given on merit but was a mate's club gift for special treatment for the donor's business. I really fail to see how gullible some folk are and that they chooses to believe other than the facts. Sad really. I do fully understand the old saying about 'you get the government you deserve'. It never much changes. Only the faces.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    4:14pm
    Mick, so you have spoken to her class mates? When and where? If you have evidence, then submit it, if you are just gutter licking and slandering a young bright person, then please shut up. Only low life attacks families and it seems Labor and the Greens have become sewer diving champions!
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    4:59pm
    Dear Ok, you obviously haven't been following this story in the media. Instead of trying to intimidate commentators, please spend a little time on research. The comments of classmates are now a matter of public record (they said she was very nice but only had average talent and certainly didn't warrant a special scholarship which no one else had even heard of). The article (in the Murdoch press I believe) even included some of her artwork which indeed was nothing special. The background of the fellow who offered the UN job has also been canvassed in mainstream media. So perhaps you should address your accusations of gutter-licking slander to Rupert Murdoch who you probably think is a closet commie.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    8:58pm
    It is what I mean. Gutter licking media and the sewer diving teams of Labor find they have to find headlines attaching children. Nothing is said about the 300 people killed because of Kevin Rudds people smuggling support policies? Brave new world!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    9:56pm
    OK: I read it online but cannot remember which rag told the story. Sorry. I'll leave you to google the article. So sorry you actually believe that the young lady did this on talent. Sounds like your vote is quickly bought.

    As you clearly do not bother to do your own research Ok I'll give you a quote it took me less than a minute to find from one of the (many) articles:

    "She's very talented at what she does, there's no denying that but there were other more deserving classmates that were more talented than Fran that also obviously didn't come from the privileged background that Fran came from," said one."

    Just google and read all you like. It's pretty clear that jealousy is not the issue. Rather we are talking about nepotism and potential payment for services to be later delivered. See it for what it was: a secretive deal done between 'business' mates, each with something to gain. It is sickening...and wrong!! I wonder what the ICAC is doing??
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:20am
    Mick, just because some gutter licking journalist comes up with a story, does not mean it is true. Families have a right to privacy and respect and only lowlife is attacking families. Not even Bill Shorten is supporting such sewer diving politics.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:40pm
    Your comment above: "Why don't you try to proof your slanderous remarks!" and "Any girl winning a scholarship on her own merits deserves praise"

    I am beginning to think that you must be a moron Ok. Your comment and my response was directed at YOUR COMMENT. The research I have suggested you do is also in regard to YOUR COMMENT. What can I say. It is sad.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    10:14pm
    Mick, not even your Labor party brain washers would approve of your foul mouthed attack on innocent young people. You should be ashamed!
    Kali-G
    26th May 2014
    10:52am
    It is a sign of the times when a jumped up hairdresser, a male handbag, freeloader can make such uttering and became "news".???!
    Someone should look back at Gillard's uni years and make a qualified judgement, and see where this dingbat fits in?
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:58am
    I sort of agree. This article was a blond article which perhaps should have been left as a head shake from society rather than a media beat up and/or witch hunt.
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    11:40am
    What a vile, disgraceful, sexist and elitist attack. How dare you denigrate someone for being a hairdresser. It is an honest occupation and no doubt you have benefited from their skill many times during your life. No other partner of a Prime Minister has been described as a 'free loader'. Was Janette Howard a free loader? If you want to call him a "male handbag" you are inferring that we shouldn't have female PMs or that they should not appear with a partner. Not many PM partners have the luxury of being able to continue their careers and support their PM while in Canberra. I'm sure Mr Mathieson would have preferred to quietly continue his career rather than endure the media glare and some of the unfair drivel it has produced. Instead he put the needs of his partner over his own: something we would all appreciate from our own partners. The second sentence just underlines how incoherent Kali-G's argument is. Aren't university graduates permitted to select non-graduates as partners? Is this a new edict in Abbott World?
    Radish
    26th May 2014
    11:00am
    Just amazing that Tim Mathieson has popped up with this criticism...very poor form in my opinion.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:27pm
    I'm Appalled !!
    Hyacinth Bucket !!
    hyam
    26th May 2014
    11:05am
    Tim is just a rock being used (and thrown) by the labor party as part of their deplorable efforts to discredit Tony Abbott. Thank goodness we can see what is going on and ignore him.
    biddi
    26th May 2014
    11:23am
    Right. Easy to work out.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:25pm
    TREASON !!
    rtrish
    26th May 2014
    11:10am
    I thought he was unwise to have made these comments (or to have been drawn into making them). No doubt Margie Abbott will gradually make her way into doing more.
    biddi
    27th May 2014
    11:53am
    Yes, give the lady a chance - she hasn't been first lady for long.
    It would be nice if she could do something for eg. RSPCA - not
    just human ventures. But there again, her husband is stoking up
    the live animal trade so I won't hold my breath.
    Rosscoe
    26th May 2014
    11:15am
    What an obnoxious article this is! Tim was just responding to the interviewer's question. Everyone can have an opinion, surely!
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    3:20pm
    Rosscoe, unfortunately too many wanting to put Tim down,which is unfair
    DavidB
    26th May 2014
    11:22am
    It is good to know that Tim is irrelevant to this country and therefore best ignored. He was quite incorrect in his views and while he can think whatever he wants privately he has no rights to make comment as he did.
    Golden Oldie
    26th May 2014
    12:31pm
    We do have free speech in this country, and this is everyone's right, but why do the press even bother to report such views of unimportant non-issues.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:28pm
    DavidB: media outlets make comment all the time so quite pertinent for the ex to do so. It happens both sides of politics for whatever reason.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:24pm
    He gave a Smutty answer to a BATED Question !!! End of Story !!
    Kathleen
    26th May 2014
    11:23am
    Who cares! This is a distraction from the real issues. Abbott and Hockey are hell bent on dismantling Medicare and creating a class society where the gap between have and have nots would be immense. Starving children overseas are also the world's issues and I do not agree with withdrawing support for third world countries. The billionaires need to contribute to the country that gave them their opportunities.
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    11:44am
    Well said.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    1:29pm
    What's about Kevin Rudd for wasting Billions by opening the doors to the people smugglers? He is living a life of luxury and can laugh his head of. We let him become PM, waste our money and now we just have to pay for the stupidity.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:30pm
    A good way to distract dumb voters from the main agenda: the transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich. This is why Abbott was elected and why Turnbull was thrown out of the leadership.
    Bookworm
    26th May 2014
    2:01pm
    Well, Grandma, when you have a HUGE percentage of the population bludging on "welfare" of some kind, money has to come from somewhere! I don't mind my taxes going to support genuine unfortunates, eg the disabled, but when we read of five generations of families who have bludged their way through life, I understand why cuts have to be made. Get off your asses and work!
    Regarding starving children overseas, I believe charity begins at home. To the elderly, disabled etc. All of these third world countries have leaders who are billionaires due to the rampant corruption. Charity money going straight into their pockets and those of their families and cronies. They are laughing at us. Check it out. And our billionaires worked bloody hard to get where they are. Pity we don't have more like them.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    3:24pm
    TRUE TRUE
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:11pm
    Whilst you are on the money Bookworm you also need to see that the money which is being taken from hand to mouth Australians is not going to debt repayment (at least not very much of it). It is going straight into the bank accounts of the rich via a 1.5% reduction in the company tax rate. In case you are not aware "company" does not just refer to businesses as rich Australian use these as tax minimisation shelters along with Family Trusts. The fact that Abbott has lied his way into power does not mean that he intends to fix the system. He doesn't despite his promises....do you really believe anything which comes out of the mouth of this man???? So you get what he was elected for, not what you elected him for. There is an important difference...which ordinary folk who are easily led do not appreciate.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    4:29pm
    Mick, get over it. The people of Australia voted and wanted get rid of rude Rudd and his mad wasteful spending to support the people smuggling industry. Abbott would have to try very hard to become as bad as Rudd.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    5:57pm
    Ok now ?? Just Get a Haircut have a Shave and put some Lipstick on !!
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    6:35pm
    OK,.............. MAYBE ITS YOU WHO NEEDS TO GET OVER IT ?????????????? AND LEAVE mICK ALONE TO HAVE HIS OPINION AND YOU MAY LEARN SOMETHING
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    9:12pm
    Rudd lost! Get over it! He was a useless PM and wasted Billions supporting the people smuggling industry. Shorten may have betrayed Rudd and Gillard, but it does not make him PM material.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:43pm
    The same dumb rhetoric from you Ok. The people may have voted but this is what happens when you run a one sided propaganda campaign: the sheep vote for you. I suggest you look at the polls now as some of the poor schmucks are now realising that they have bee done. Act in haste, repent in leisure. Wasted words on you though as your cognitive processes are clearly shot.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    10:20pm
    Dear Mick! Are Bob Brown and his lackey Kevin Rudd ever paying back all the Billions they wasted on supporting the deadly people smuggling industry? The wasted so much money, the Government would have now enough money to pay people to see a doctor. Blame the vandals and not the wall. Australia needs to recover from the blunder of Rudd,
    Bes
    26th May 2014
    12:01pm
    Tim who?
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:57pm
    Zakly ! Zakly Zaly !!! Tim WHO ??
    Nannypat
    26th May 2014
    12:05pm
    The only charity events that I can remember Tim Mathieson doing was going around to all the mens sheds. He lived a life of luxury, went every where for nothing as the PM's (non-wedded) partner, and now has the gall to criticise Mrs Abbott.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    6:59pm
    Copy and Post Your Marriage Certificate up here for us Will Ya ??
    KSS
    26th May 2014
    12:16pm
    This is yet another non-story and has already been proven to have no basis.

    What is more concerning is that now two of Mr Abbott's daughters and his wife (twice - first because she signed up for further education and now with regard to her charity work) have been dragged in to the fray in order to discredit Mr Abbott.

    What next? His third daughter? His parents? His in-laws? The next door neighbour's cat?
    UNCLE FESTER
    26th May 2014
    12:55pm
    Well said KSS. I am sure they will get to the third daughter soon and possibly every person named Abbott.

    I wonder where JENYJAC is - she keeps telling everyone she is "here" but not where "here" is.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:15pm
    Delusional. Even Abbott's daughter's class mates are crying foul. So you really think that this was sour grapes and that the $50 000 scholarship was given on merit? Yeah right. You are clearly easily led and it is clear how a vile group of politicians who lied and continue to govern from the gutter is now in power. God protect you from yourself friend.
    Anonymous
    26th May 2014
    6:22pm
    Her Majesty's Loyal True Opposition are holding Bro To's third daughter in reserve, waiting for the moment SHE gets a handout at the trough...

    When you use your contacts as a public figure to give your family silver spoons, you and they cop it as deserved.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:21pm
    I heard One of them Swiped a Slice of Mouldy Bread in London and was Transported to Port Arthur ??
    unicorn
    26th May 2014
    12:17pm
    Tim MathiI am sick to death of the whinging eson wants to learn -as do all of the ex's & present partners of PM"s - if they had any brains they would shut up & get on with living quietly.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    12:25pm
    I need a cheap hair cut? do you know where he works?
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:30pm
    Toorak???
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:03pm
    You will find Him in The Men's Shed Styling and Trimming the tails on Rocking Horses !!
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    12:20pm
    The families of our politicians have always been kept out of the news. They are not elected and they deserve their privacy. Only political low life attacks families of our elected politicians. Sadly, the media is currently and a media lynch mission and nothing to do with our current PM can be any good in the eyes of of some. If they cannot win an argument based on logic, smear, slander and slogans come out. When Rudd visited as a married man a strip joint, he became a hero in the eyes of all the media. When Tony Abbott blinked during an interview, he became the “ a sleaze” in the according to the Greens. What double standard and hypocrisy!
    geomac
    26th May 2014
    12:35pm
    I agree they deserve their privacy . However when the family is used extensively in an election campaign they have abandoned their privacy or right to expect it from the media . Abbott did not just have the normal family pic type spin but had saturation exposure . That street goes both ways . Having said that the charity thing is a beat up , puff piece .
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:32pm
    So true geomac. It cuts both ways although the Abbott 'do as I say' camp are happy to dish it out but not happy when the chickens come home to roost.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    2:47pm
    Labor and Greens should hang their head in shame for having wasted Billions. They have become parties of gutter lickers.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:19pm
    Agreed Ok but the current liberal government should hide its head in shame for engaging in class warfare rather than governing for the nation. So what is worse: wasting billions (bad) or transferring even more billions to the rich end of society whilst taking this money from pensioners and struggling hard working families? You clearly are not looking at the ledger, only your bias fuelled by the Abbott propaganda campaign which has captured the mindless sheep who cannot see past the ends of their noses. Wake up and get up to speed rather than blog from a point of ignorance. You will be enlightened.....'the truth will set you free'.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    6:36pm
    OK , The Pm Abbott will go down as the worse PM in Australia history
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:10pm
    Calm Down Tia !! Ok has Libralitis and there is no Known cure !! You only worsen His Pain by Antagonising Him !!
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    9:01pm
    What's about Kevin Rudd for wasting Billions by opening the doors to the people smugglers? He is living a life of luxury and can laugh his head of. We let him become PM, waste our money and now we just have to pay for the stupidity?
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:04pm
    The jury is still out tia-maria but you may be right. Only poor Ok is still on page 1.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:23am
    What's about Kevin Rudd for wasting Billions by opening the doors to the people smugglers? He is living a life of luxury and can laugh his head of. We let him become PM, waste our money and now we just have to pay for the stupidity? Do you want 18% housing interest rates and recession again? Labor can do it again for you! They have done it before and will do it again.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:45pm
    Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb. You are so not on the planet Ok.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    10:23pm
    Sadly, I am the same planet as you. Sadly you are not wise enough too understand that for every dollar wasted a dollar can't be spent on roads, schools and hospitals. Your friend Rudd has given the money to the people smugglers.
    Sam
    26th May 2014
    12:23pm
    Tim Mathieson was and is an irrelevance who enjoyed his position when Julia was in power, and I am astonished that he should choose, or think he has the right, to make such comments
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:16pm
    Yes! A Commoner ! I cant believe they were Interviewing His Royal Irrelevance ??
    lindylou
    26th May 2014
    12:24pm
    Good heavens - WHO CARES!!
    Surely the most important thing that should be discussed continuously, loudly and in the all papers is the unfair equality of the Budget and the horrendous treatment of Single Parents with their Family Payments being taken away and any and all other benefits. What in heavens name is going on - the Children of these poor families who are struggling are the FUTURE of Australia and should be given all the help and benefits to keep them going for Australia's future.. Not just being forgotten about and she'll be right mate.
    So ashamed..

    No, I am not a single Mother but a 62 year old caring Mother, Wife and Grandmother.

    As to the FIRST LADY title - Ppffffttttt.. Ridiculous
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:21pm
    You've got it lindylou. A pity the sheep on this website are more interested in uninformed bias rather than spending a few days discerning the facts from the lies.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:50pm
    Good Onya Lindylou !!
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:29am
    lindylou- yes, we have to care for future generations
    Bebe
    26th May 2014
    12:48pm
    Big whoops from the X prime minister's live in hairdresser. His contribution at the
    lodge seemed to be walking the dog, looking after her hair, and living the life
    of RILEY for free. If he is smart he will keep his mouth shut.
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    1:25pm
    Why do people think it is demeaning to be a hairdresser? Is it more acceptable for Abbott to have a live-in part-time child-care worker? Every PM partner "lives the life of Riley for free" if you insist on putting it that pejorative way. With the media glare so harsh, I would hardly call it free. Do you expect them to live in a dog kennel behind the Lodge? I also seem to remember he did good work highlighting the Men's Shed movement and the importance of prostate checks. Good on him. Please keep your sneering under control: it says more about you than him.
    tia-maria
    26th May 2014
    3:28pm
    oUR PM Abbott, IS SPENDING MILLIONS ON THE lODGE I bet its to impress the women in his life?????? at the cost of the taxpayers so Mrs Abbott (god love her) should be showing respect to the voters and do chariety work.
    dizey47
    26th May 2014
    12:48pm
    We elected Tony Abbot (for better or worse as it turns out) not his wife. She is not on the payroll and obliged to do anything, except be supportive as any good wife would. What she does is out of her good graces, she or any other partner or spouse should not be obliged.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:38pm
    Sorry but "we" did not elect Tony Abbott. The media did. You think that YOU elected him because of the one sided propaganda campaign which ran. Think about it.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    2:39pm
    Mick, are you sick? We DID elect Tony Abbott and it was not the media, it was YOU and I. Sadly we did also elect the double disaster of Bob Brown and his little helper Kevin Rudd. Kevin Rudd is about 90% guilty for all the current massive debt by opening the door to people smugglers and thereby wasting Billions.Because of Kevin Rudd and Bob Brown over 300 people died at sea. Tony Abbott's worst crime? a wink during an interview.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:35pm
    From several of your posts Ok I can see that you are one of the sheep who believed the propaganda outrageous election campaign. Are you not smart enough to understand that Tony Abbott gained power because the campaign for 2 years before and during the election was one sided, misleading and with no substance other than for the issuing of slogans which the feeble minded could accept as fact. All the nation got was mud and more mud thrown at the incumbent government. Whilst I personally had little time for Labor I could see that the campaign was worthy of propaganda status which Goebbels would have been proud of and that it was coming from and being financed by big business (= the rich!!) to get its way (lower taxes FOR THE RICH). Sadly Ok you are a part of the problem because you did and do still believe the lies which have been coming from Abbott and his cronies for the past 2 years. Wake up, grow up and do a bit of research rather than regurgitate the rubbish coming from some of the most vicious, low life individuals I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. I have said before that I hold fears that Tony Abbott and his government may well be a totalitarian government in the making. Given that the man TELLS everybody what to do I fear that he may do unspeakable things if ordinary Australians do not wake up. Then what will you and those you supported this group of thugs do? Ok, perhaps I am 5 steps down the road but you have to look at how this government behaves to understand that it is not beyond outlawing an opposition party.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    5:16pm
    Mick, I am sure your fear are well founded and that Abbott is going to introduce a "totalitarian government". He may have already installed a spy chip on your computer and if you have a good look at the computer screen, you may notice a little dot missing. Have a good look at your TV screen, meter box and roof of your neighbor. You may not find evidence where Abbott has his monitoring equipment, but if you are sure that Abbott is going to introduce a "totalitarian Government", your fears may be well funded. Try to get a good nights sleep and count the sheep if you cannot get the fear of Abbott out of your mind.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:13pm
    Ok: how did you get on the Ark mate. I mean when the rest of the critters were on you would have been waist deep in water quoting dogma. Give me strength!!
    Whilst I hope that Australia never sees a totalitarian government (look up the word will you Ok) I see some dangerous behaviour from the current PM and his front bench. Both have a total disrespect for honesty and they have little respect for the bulk of the nation's voters as they have a 'do as I say' attitude rather than a 'do as I do' one. This is how such governments start (step 1). The they ban oppositions (step 2). I'll leave the rest for you to think over Ok but I have serious doubts that you have the ability to think rather than lead with your 'opinion'. I was once told to 'play the ball, not the man' and I apologise if I am doing the latter but you are seriously annoying me with your uninformed comments which fail to properly address what has happened in the past year. I know....you have no idea what I am referring to. That is the problem!!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:15pm
    My kids tell me to get a life Ok. I am beginning to think that they are right and that I should ignore what is happening in the political arena. Good advice from 2 so young.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:26am
    Mick, in a totalitarian society you would have to work.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:48pm
    In a totalitarian society you have to PRETEND to work. This is why these societies are unproductive. And in such a society the leaders live a privileged life. Coming, not that our lot do not already have this but it will get worse if they become entrenched and own the military. If you think that this government is not capable of this then like everything else Ok you cannot see what we are dealing with here. They have it in them!!
    wally
    26th May 2014
    1:01pm
    So why is Tim jumping on the mysogynist "Get the Liberal Women " bandwagon? Is he taking a breather from his strenuous charity work for the Men Shed movement? Will he give us a report as to his good deeds involving that worth organisation? Has he branched out in his public service efforts by joining a rural fire brigade? Does his daughter do any charity work? Why is the fearless Labor misogynist busting duo of Penny Wong and Tania Plibersek so silent regarding Tim's outrageous outburst? Why too have they been so silent about the Uni students mobbing and being mean to Julia Bishop and Sophie Mirabella? Come to think of it, how about Julia Gillard's cozying up to the awful Kyle Sandilands, (he of the tasteless remarks about females) in an effort to curry the youth vote last year. It seems that our Labor Lefties have a double standard in operation when it comes to the treatment of females in the public eye.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    1:25pm
    Wally, they are just soaking up the anti-Abbott media hype. I think the ABC has a lot to do with the vile hate campaign which has little do do with logical arguments. We can't just let our children and grandchildren pay for Kevin Rudds stupidity. We let him and we have to pay for it.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:47pm
    You are not to be believed Ok. You talk about a "vile hate campaign" and "letting our grandchildren pay for Kevin Rudd's stupidity"??? Are you not smart enough to see that you have been both lied to and conned? Firstly, Abbott has shown that he is a liar of the worst kind. Secondly, YOU were sold the distortion of bad debt and "doing it for the country". Whilst there is debt and this is not good you and people who were conned never once stop to look at context of why the debt was taken on. I dare say whilst you and/or your children were in full employment during the GFC you never once gave your good fortune a second though. You should have. The debt we now have is far far worse than any debt Labor over-saw and Abbott has the luxury of the Labor scapegoat and the joy of having an easily led electorate to believe the next lie. Get real, really, and grow up Ok.

    As for the "heavy lifting" which is benefiting the country who pray tell do you think is going to take the money which you and other working Australians are losing? To see that look at who had their super pumped up and who get a tax cut with the budget.....that's right: rich Australians. If you thought that you are going to suffer for the good of the nation then you are one of the Abbott drones who hang on every word and never check the facts.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    2:44pm
    Sorry Mick! I am sure you have read enough of the Greens slogan and now you start to believe in what you are saying. If Australia keeps on borrowing like a mad hamster, then interest rates will go up again to 18%. We had Bob Hawke and he managed to ruin our economy. Rudd tried very hard to do the same, but the mining boom prevented him doing so.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:50pm
    I already answered this in one of your uninformed comments Ok. INFORM YOURSELF not just shoot off your mount mate. The Greens are toxic as are Labor and Liberal. Sadly you do not have enough cognitive ability to see the forest for the trees so I have to keep reading your slogan posts.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    10:27pm
    Dear Mick, so what is your point? You seem to be hating the Liberals, Labor and the Greens. Who do you support? Clive Palmer?
    Bebe
    26th May 2014
    1:21pm
    Tia-Maria the work on the lodge was to be done when labour was in govt. They
    lost the election.
    Lindylou a lot of these single parent families are the product of girls having babies
    to get money from the govt. I am 88yrs old a wife, mother, grand and great
    grandmother. I still pay income tax on a very small income. Labour got us into the mess
    give the liberals a fair go to fix it. It seems to me labour stuffs the country and
    the economy every time they get in, I hope it is a long time before they get in again.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    9:05pm
    Yes, I do remember Bob Hawke. He spent money like a drunk sailor and in the end housing interest rates went up to 18%! Why do I remember? I just had finished our first home and the Bob Hawke inspired interest rate forced us to sell our home and move into a remote area to find a better paid job. Yes, I do remember and I see that Shorten would do the same to our children.
    Bebe
    26th May 2014
    1:21pm
    Tia-Maria the work on the lodge was to be done when labour was in govt. They
    lost the election.
    Lindylou a lot of these single parent families are the product of girls having babies
    to get money from the govt. I am 88yrs old a wife, mother, grand and great
    grandmother. I still pay income tax on a very small income. Labour got us into the mess
    give the liberals a fair go to fix it. It seems to me labour stuffs the country and
    the economy every time they get in, I hope it is a long time before they get in again.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    9:15pm
    Labor only gets in when the there is money in the treasury to be wasted.
    Bebe
    26th May 2014
    1:21pm
    Tia-Maria the work on the lodge was to be done when labour was in govt. They
    lost the election.
    Lindylou a lot of these single parent families are the product of girls having babies
    to get money from the govt. I am 88yrs old a wife, mother, grand and great
    grandmother. I still pay income tax on a very small income. Labour got us into the mess
    give the liberals a fair go to fix it. It seems to me labour stuffs the country and
    the economy every time they get in, I hope it is a long time before they get in again.
    Bebe
    26th May 2014
    1:21pm
    Tia-Maria the work on the lodge was to be done when labour was in govt. They
    lost the election.
    Lindylou a lot of these single parent families are the product of girls having babies
    to get money from the govt. I am 88yrs old a wife, mother, grand and great
    grandmother. I still pay income tax on a very small income. Labour got us into the mess
    give the liberals a fair go to fix it. It seems to me labour stuffs the country and
    the economy every time they get in, I hope it is a long time before they get in again.
    Bebe
    26th May 2014
    1:21pm
    Tia-Maria the work on the lodge was to be done when labour was in govt. They
    lost the election.
    Lindylou a lot of these single parent families are the product of girls having babies
    to get money from the govt. I am 88yrs old a wife, mother, grand and great
    grandmother. I still pay income tax on a very small income. Labour got us into the mess
    give the liberals a fair go to fix it. It seems to me labour stuffs the country and
    the economy every time they get in, I hope it is a long time before they get in again.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    1:48pm
    Yeah Bebe, I think you got it posted ok.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:39pm
    You can say that Rubbish Again and Again and Again and Again. But You wont have to! You've got some Help I've noticed to Bear the Load !!
    Ny19
    26th May 2014
    1:50pm
    "First Lady"? Oh come on......this is not America!!!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    2:22pm
    Lady? Hmm.
    Abby
    26th May 2014
    5:55pm
    What about "First Bloke " ?
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:57pm
    I'm off for a Macca's and a CAWFEE !!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:18pm
    What about "the land of the free"? Maybe governments elected "by the people for the people". Sound great...unless you have been to the country where these slogans come from. it ain't the land of the free and governments are not run by the people nor for the people unless you are the top 1%.
    Nightshade
    26th May 2014
    1:55pm
    RUDD's Mrs. HAS AN EMPLOYMENT AGENCY ??????
    ABBOTT's Mrs. HAS CHILD CARE CENTER ??????
    Not subsidized by the Australian government I hope
    A conflict of interest ???????
    KSS
    26th May 2014
    2:16pm
    A multi million dollar international business versus a small 25 place not-for-profit community based child care centre. I wonder who is making the most profit?
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    3:54pm
    Don't you understand, if Labor person makes Millions, then it is cute. If a Liberal person earns a few Dollars, then it is profiteering. Please do some background reading how cute Mrs. Rudd made her money and where the money cam from!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:49pm
    OK: this whole argument about who earns what is a sham and your delivery is sad. I applaud anybody who can make it. What I do not applaud is somebody who makes a lot of money and then uses his political party to get out of paying tax. This is the game which is now on and the company tax reduction of 1.5% in the budget was ONLY FOR THE RICH....just like the super changes for the well off were kept when Abbott got in but those for the poor were withdrawn.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    6:09pm
    Mick, the worst of Abbott is still 100 times better than the best of Ruddd. Australians kicked Rudd out and now, get over it and stop crying.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:24pm
    Do the nation a real favour Ok: DO NOT VOTE LIBERAL, LABOR OR GREENS. As a very wise very average Australian once (correctly) told me: "It doesn't matter if Billy the Blacksmith is elected because the public service effectively runs the government" and ministers are like principals in schools. They perform a public relations exercise whilst deputies do all of the real work. Wasted words on you Ok.
    It saddens me that Australians cannot see this is the real solution and keep voting for the major parties and then wonder why nothing ever changes other than the faces.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:31am
    Mick! What's about Kevin Rudd for wasting Billions by opening the doors to the people smugglers? He is living a life of luxury and can laugh his head of. We let him become PM, waste our money and now we just have to pay for the stupidity? Do you want 18% housing interest rates and recession again? Labor can do it again for you! They have done it before and will do it again.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:34pm
    OK:

    1. Rudd did waste billions on people smugglers. No argument. Dumb policy which the Greens demanded so that they did not cross the floor. Caught between a rock and a hard place from what I can...but I do not condone what happened. The only light at the end of the tunnel is that it provided jobs for Australians, not that this is meant to be a justification.
    2. Dumb statement. They ALL live in luxury. Taxpayer funded.
    3. Interest rates: as usual Ok you are making false claims as you cannot even find out the facts. Here they are: highest rates under Hawke 19%, Keating 9% and Fraser 21%. Yes mate, your coalition heros have the highest rates in both our lifetimes.
    4. If you want to talk about a recession then I remember the early 80s as bad times. These reoccurred after the stock market collapse in the late 80s as well (Hawke era). So lets stop with the uninformed bullshi* and present FACTS. You are beginning to sound like your Abbott government where not a word is believable and the slogans keep coming.
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    10:32pm
    Dear Mick, to mu knowledge housing interest rates never went up to 21%. I do remember Bob Hawkes 18%, as it was the time we had to sell our home because of Labor mismanagement. I share your dislike of Fraser who was a creep almost as bad as Rudd and a bloody royalist.
    AlbertC
    26th May 2014
    1:59pm
    ABBOTS WIFE HAS BEEN DOING CHARITY WORK EVER SINCE SHE MET TONY HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE HER CHARITY. HER FULL TIME JOB AND DOES NOT GET PAID FOR IT I FEEL SORRY FOR HER HAVING TO PUT UP WITH A FLIRT IN BUDGIE SNUGGLES. HAVE A NICE DAY.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    6:11pm
    She is wise and still prefers Tony to you!
    fish head
    26th May 2014
    2:03pm
    Please, ladies and gents, let's everyone stand back a sec. Point 1: We employ the Prime Minister NOT his family.Point 2:Back in the days when the Little Woman was homemaker,yes, there was enough time for charity work and the PM's wife was seen as leader by example but charity work has to be by choice otherwise you have an empty figurehead.Point 3: the political parties have begun to use this voluntary effort as party promotion not helping where the need is.Point 4: Who in the world keeps score of who supports what except apparently Mr Mathieson? Point 5: Who cares as long as there are compassionate people who are prepared to give of their time to help someone else?
    Mar
    26th May 2014
    2:13pm
    All this juvenile squabbling about a matter of little importance is a smokescreen for the real issue of such an unfair budget. That the majority of Australians are showing their objections to how this government are penalizing the poorest members of our society is telling us that we cannot destroy our health and education systems. They should be part of the growth of this country. The government needs to explore other ways of building the economy. Medical and education must be available to all regardless of their means. This denotes a strong, healthy society. Surely we should all support this.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:51pm
    Good one Mar. I totally agree. it is sad that some of the posters on this site are broken and are sheep who cannot think for themselves but just regurgitate the party line without ever checking if it is right or not nor having much background knowledge of politics. Pollies must be laughing when they see how easy it is to con, win over and get ordinary folk to spread their lies.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    7:46pm
    YOUR RIGHT MAR !!

    26th May 2014
    2:39pm
    It's no one's business...
    kosmo88
    26th May 2014
    2:41pm
    YES, get back in the box.! just what I was thinking of.! Pleaseeeeeeee.!
    Mak
    26th May 2014
    3:03pm
    This is Australia Timmy-Boy, you and your stupid 'First Lady' comment.
    Why don't you get off your fat, bludging- off- taxpayers- backside and YOU do something for the benefit of Australia.
    Mrs Tony Abbott has more qualities in her left foot little toe-nail that you have in your whole body!
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    8:10pm
    Yes if You kick off You Clod Hoppers and Study Your Toe Nails for a while, You will appreciate the Qualities of them !!
    Not Amused
    26th May 2014
    3:06pm
    I wonder what nasty piece of work put Mathieson up to making such a rude comment? The former Lodge bogans definitely lived large off the taxpayers, walking away cashed up for life whilst leaving Australia a divided, debt riddled country. Wasn't Mathieson the person who was snapped by police running a red light in a taxpayer funded car? Both of them should go away and leave us alone. Sick of the sight and sound of them.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    8:14pm
    Who was that Bozo that put the Push Bike in Lake Burly Griffin ??
    Mak
    26th May 2014
    3:10pm
    Mar, an unfair budget is when every person in Australia does not receive one cent for anything, no free or low-cost education, no pensions for anything, no medi-help, nothing. Work to survive until you die as in MANY other countries. People born in Australia would never begin to know what real hardship is.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    4:57pm
    You are right Mak............it was not an unfair budget for wealthy Australians at all. That is the whole point. The budget is class warfare!!
    But I have to concede your point. Australians are much better off than many in the world. Even Americans are screwed by business and are the slaves of the rich. So lets keep supporting Abbott and his lying cutthroats until they get Work Choices (by a new name) in and we all become the slaves that rich AUstralians want so that they can live the same obscene life which their cousins in the US live. God bless Australia (sic).
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    5:58pm
    Mick, I think Cuba is still open for people believing in true equality. Like you, they also hate the USA.
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    8:20pm
    Mak..I think they are working on that now ? Have patience, and You will see the Results !!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    10:26pm
    Sorry Ok I don't smoke.
    Mar
    26th May 2014
    3:36pm
    Thank Goodness. Australia is a compassionate (the majority of Aussies) society. Generations have worked hard to make it this way. Let's not pull it back a few decades.The success of a society is how it treats it's poorest!!!
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    3:46pm
    Poverty in Australia is often a voluntary. If somebody can have $2000.00 worth of tattoos on their bodies, can afford to smoke, to down a six pack every day, go to football every week and eat daily take-aways, then they are NOT poor. In most cases "Poverty" can be cured by working harder and longer, buying wiser, study and saving.
    UNCLE FESTER
    26th May 2014
    4:09pm
    Careful - Mick is going to start shouting again!
    geomac
    26th May 2014
    4:54pm
    Ok
    I am on a pension and could not afford the lifestyle you mention . A mate who works full time as a cleaner cannot afford the lifestyle you mention . So how do you relate your examples to poverty ? Poverty to me would be getting by on the Newstart payment . Extreme poverty would be getting nothing for six months .
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    5:02pm
    Sorry to disappoint you FESTER but I have to agree with both Mar and Ok (I must be losing it). Whilst I am not poor and may never get a pension (ouch!!) my family understands that one can do quite nicely if one lives within one's means and if one works hard and SAVES a bit of money rather than live it away and then complain. Sorry to disappoint you FESTER but I do have the best interests of the nation at heart but I am not one of the blind voters who can be so easily conned and manipulated. That is my issue with Ok who has a view based on bias not on fact.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    5:05pm
    And by the way FESTER it is not my style to lecture or shout, even though this might be how you have perceived it. What you are seeing is frustration at people who are conned and then regurgitate misinformation and/or lies as fact whilst rarely doing any background reading to discover if their view is factual or otherwise. This is how Alan Jones gets his flock and the current government has taken it to the next level. Whilst you and Ok may never agree you should both do yourselves a favour and spend less time at the bar and more on google catching the bastards out. But then you may start "shouting".
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    5:31pm
    Ok certainly seems to have an extremely bizarre view of the poor. This attack is like the Abbott apologists who always equate the $7 co-payment to luxury 'sin' items like cigarettes and alcohol. Some of us poor have have been employed and paid taxes all our lives. We become poor through age or ill-health. My health was partly destroyed by an uncaring small business boss, long gone leaving no one to sue. (He thought health and safety laws were unnecessary red tape.) I don't have a tattoo, I don't smoke, have never bought a six-pack of anything but yoghurt, never put so much as 20 cents into a pokie nor paid to watch a sporting event. As to take-away, I haven't bought a cup of coffee since the GST was introduced. I live frugally. Where does all my money go? I need to maintain my private health insurance because cancer sufferers can't afford to be left on even short waiting lists. That is my sole luxury. If prices for other stuff goes up, I will have to forgo even that luxury and become a burden on the public health system. People such as myself have every right to find Ok's comments offensive.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    5:40pm
    Yes, I am also on a pension and I cannot afford these things either. But we are not poor as long we have good health, enough to eat and a place to live. Most of the so-called poverty is self inflicted. If you want to see true poverty, you may travel to Bangladesh etc. You will find it very hard to find true poverty in Australia.
    Ok
    26th May 2014
    5:53pm
    to Eclair: I said that Poverty in Australia is often voluntary and you know that this is true. I also said that we are not poor if we have good health and I am sorry to hear that you are not in good health. You mention that you have a private health insurance. I am sure many people can afford private health insurance but decide to bludge on the rest of the community for free health services. I think a small co-payment with a robust safety net will help people in your situation, We see too many people going to the doctor just to get a "slip" to for their "sickies". We have a culture where people feel entitled for free holidays, called "sickies" and then even complain having to pay a small fee. You pay for the greed of other people.
    Eclair
    26th May 2014
    8:28pm
    Dear Ok, thank you for your more reasoned approach. Still a bit paranoid, but less abusive. I know of no doctors who issue sick leave willy-nilly and certainly don't see that sort of person during my hours in the waiting room. Our waiting room is full of the elderly and mothers with young children. You can't even get a same-day appointment to see my GPs unless you are seriously ill so that hardly fits with your image of unlimited sickies. Even Abbott in his wildest fantasies wouldn't have the gall to say GP co-payment will help someone in my situation. That and increases in medication costs will only be a burden. I am no longer wealthy enough to pay tax. And when I did pay tax, I didn't grizzle meanly about free-loaders. Such people do exist but they are a small minority. If times are as hard as this government pretends, the sort of welfare we should cut is the invisible middle class welfare but instead we are increasing it through an incredibly generous paid parental leave scheme. The middle class can exist without it, the rich can continue to thrive with tax loopholes tightened rather than loosened. The people who can't thrive, can't even exist is the lowest income earners, the ill and the elderly. This budget targets those who can afford it least and will suffer most. It is mean, it is unfair and it is unprincipled. The elderly have done their years of 'heavy lifting' and have earned the right to a safe, secure old age without fear of not being able to afford a doctor. They worked hard, asked for little and were given less, but believed they could rely on their government to return enough of their taxes to provide a dignified old age.
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    9:42pm
    Eclair: some interesting comments but I think you are a bit off the mark. Whilst I see Abbott and his malicious front bench for what they are, and disagree with a woefully unfair budget, I agree with the co-payment and the attacks on welfare. Before you go for the jugular please let me explain.
    1. Visits to the doctors - like all things which are free going to the doctor seems to have become a way of life. Years ago people went when they were genuinely sick and doctors did not invite patients back for a social visit to "see how they are going" unless there was a damned good reason. Today this has become an over-servicing junket. I do agree with the minister who stated that Australians must be really sick given how often they go to the doctor. Whilst there are some who need to go there are many who simply don't. At present I have a muscle injury in my right arm which I have had for 3 months. I am tossing up whether to see my doctor or not but it appears that nature is doing the job albeit slowly. I think you get the gist but I doubt that most Australians would see that doctors cost every one of us. IT IS NOT 'FREE'.
    2. Welfare - the welfare system is supposed to be a 'safety net', not a way of life. You are wrong that there are only a few folk who are bludging. There are many. I was told that the Disability Support Pension had 1 million Australians on it. If that is true then it tells the whole story. Also I met a friend of a person I know who was a life long welfare system. When challenged the lady was outraged and replied that being on welfare was her "life choice" and that it was nobody else's business. And this is not the only person I have met who has made a life style choice.
    As somebody who until recent years has worked (bloody hard) and gone without to be confronted with the reality that I may have paid a heap of taxes but will not be getting a pension I am put out by those who prosper from others who have deprived themselves, and who then have the gall to attack those people without considering that they may have made a contribution. It is not right.
    Whilst I do not believe that money from the poor end of town should end up in the bank accounts of the rich I do think that it is long due that the rorts are ended as welfare is also paid for by somebody else forgoing something and it should not be rorted.
    Mar
    26th May 2014
    5:27pm
    Ok. That is not poverty, that is bludging off genuine people who pay their taxes. I agree with geomac. So many people work hard, and through no fault of their own live on the breadline.Its not always by choice that people find themselves in difficult circumstances. I have always been happy that some of my tax will support where it's needed, but not used so that the wealthy will get wealthier. Of course there will always some who abuse the system, it's inevitable. The real poor should not have to pay the price for them, and not judged by them.
    Fayzer
    26th May 2014
    5:40pm
    I admire the Abbott family and believe they are excellent role models for the rest of Australia. Maggie and Tony have done an excellent job in raising their beautiful daughters and the negative comments made by the previous first 'bloke' needs to be ignored. Mr Abbott was elected into the position of PM and his wife should feel free to do what she is comfortabe with. Your time is over Mr Mathieson
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:43am
    I agree. It seems decent people have become targets of the lynch mob mentality of the media and sewer diving politicians.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:55pm
    With 90% of them in the current government. But then you would not be aware that the front bench are made up of malicious Howard left over politicians who whilst not in government became cynical, nasty and turned into unabated liars and creeps. And the media put them in. And in case you are too simple to understand WHO OWNS THE BIG MEDIA PLAYERS the answer is big business. Work it out in the context of the budget, superannuation red carpets for the rich and how average and poor Australians have been plundered with the promise from Hockey that "we are not finished yet".
    So you are on a pension eh? Perhaps by the time they are finished that will be gone too.

    26th May 2014
    6:08pm
    Storm in a teacup - with little finger raised...

    No handbag swinging please!!
    particolor
    26th May 2014
    8:25pm
    I'll Wink to that !!
    MICK
    26th May 2014
    9:43pm
    You've picked which battles to fight Grappler. Smart man. I should be so lucky!!
    Olbiddy
    26th May 2014
    10:13pm
    So poor gimmee gimmee Tim is having a fit of relevance deprivation! Back in your box, you selfish, self centred little prat.
    Ballgameskeith
    27th May 2014
    1:27am
    I think Margie is very charitable ... I mean she has to put up with that dick head Tones!
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:07am
    I think she is very proud of a very good Australian. Tony Abbott has far more credibility than all the money wasters and people smuggling supporters before him. A hard budget and a fair budget is far better than going back to 18% housing interest rates!
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:08pm
    People who are unashamed liars and who transfer national wealth from the poor to the rich have NO CREDIBILITY. Only you Ok believe this but then from your comments above you seem to be on another planet, one where reason is absent and facts are to be ignored. Sounds like the current government doesn't it?
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    10:37pm
    Mick, yes we have many dishonest people abusing the system. Yes, some are wealthy and some are not. Our current Government tries to deal with both.
    Radish
    27th May 2014
    8:24am
    Even if Tonly Abbott gave every person in Australia a million dollars he would be criticised.
    It is all to do with personal hatred nothing more nothing less.

    I dont care if walks like a monkey, has a silly grimace on his face, winks in radio interviews, rides his bike all day long in lycra.

    I just want someone in charge of this country who knows what they are doing and has the guts to follow through and not cave in.

    It is not a personality competition we are talking about the sound running of this country and we sure did not have it with the previous government. The finances have to be put back in order before interest rates start rising and when they do the Australian people wont like the huge increases in the interest bill which currently runs at ONE BILLION A MONTH!
    Ok
    27th May 2014
    9:14am
    Well said! We had lost our home because of Labor type 18% housing interest rates. Tony Abbott tries hard that this will never happen again and I hope he will succeed. If somebody on an average mortgage or in an average rental place can afford another $500.00 a week, good, go for Shorten and the Greens. If not, support the current budget.
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:14pm
    Raddish: Tony Abbott is giving a lot of Australians a million dollars. The rich. Don't you know what Abbott has done whilst he has so easily fooled folk like yourself who thing that he is a good bloke. Tony Abbott and his Howard era leftovers know exactly what they are doing. This is why the big end of town put them in. If you think that YOU made a wise decision then God help you because you and many others were conned with a slick one sided media propaganda campaign which distorted the facts because the public is driven on emotion, not on facts and the truth. Welcome to your government. The budget should be telling you a story. And if you think that the budget is what the country needs then keep the head firmly buried in the sand because the debt is not going to repaid. That is not the intention. The real agenda is wealth transfer but then you would not be capable of seeing this and that is the real tragedy.
    Nightshade
    27th May 2014
    8:26am
    WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO NEVER WAS ?
    THEREFORE ONE CANNOT EVEN BE A SOMEONE
    THEREFORE IS NOT EVEN A HAS BEEN.
    WHY WOULD WE GIVE IT THE TIME OF DAY ?

    More important is the fact that in the BIG BAD WORLD
    AUSTRALIA is considered a very RISKY PLACE TO INVEST OR TO DO BUSINESS -
    WHY - WHY - WHY is that
    DEREGULATION
    DEREGULATION
    DEREGULATION
    IS THE REASON
    WE ARE CONSIDERED TO BE A NATION WITH
    NO RULES /
    INADEQUATE LAWS /
    A LACK OF CONTROL OVER THE BANKING SECTOR WHO ARE ALLOWED TO
    CORPORATE RAID /
    INVESTMENT MONIES RAID /
    UNABATED OUTRIGHT THIEVERY /
    AND MORE.
    Boys & girls it seem we rate at the bottom of the desirable to engage with in any way ladder.

    WELL DONE TO SOME ONE - HEY !
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:19pm
    You're close. What has happened is that Australian industries, businesses and jobs have been sold off to offshore investors. Even freehold farmland is currently being flogged off (to foreign governments). The result is that we a falling number of jobs for Australians and that we have lived on the capital on what we have sold rather than the interest on businesses which are now gone. So now the country is beginning to feel the squeeze. Enjoy the ride folks because it is your support of both sides of politics which has caused it. The real pain is yet to come.
    Nightshade
    27th May 2014
    8:29am
    TIM & JULIA MISS THE CAMERA IS ALL .
    PROUDLY CAPTAIN DREADFUL BIBI NETANYAHU IS THE SAME
    This superhero is expert at throwing himself in front of the camera
    Maybe Tim could take a few tips from P.C.D. Bibi Netanyahu
    particolor
    27th May 2014
    8:53am
    I want to see Tony on Horse Back in His Speedo's like Yeltson !!.. Now there's a Super Hero ??
    unicorn
    27th May 2014
    8:39am
    This has become nothing more than a discussion of Tony lovers & Julia haters. His wife is a lady? and her man is a bloke? Does that make Tony of Joe a bloke???
    particolor
    27th May 2014
    8:56am
    When You speak English You will get a Reply !!
    Nightshade
    27th May 2014
    8:41am
    don't give to charities
    you will be paying for their new mobile phone
    or an upgrade for their laptop or
    maybe even an newer model car

    I was at IGA the guy in front has a voucher - was he over the limit so he put some stuff back - then one more - finally it came to putting back the toothpaste - it was $2.70 over - I gave him the money -"been there" I said - outside was a young German guy collecting for Animal Rescue I gave $2.00 - this is charity & not the organized mob of parasites who prey on us for an al a catre feed.
    particolor
    27th May 2014
    8:59am
    Dead Right !!! When they get Rid of CEO's !! I will Donate ...
    Dukki
    27th May 2014
    9:48am
    Yes I agree with the first lady bit mew we are not americians YeT and hopefully never will be. .. as on that day i wi;; exist out for good

    As for Tim. the least said he better
    Reeper
    27th May 2014
    10:45am
    Couple of points here which have already been expressed. This is just Mathieson clamouring for lime light he has never deserved at any time, and use of 'First Lady'. I think it has been in Australia's favour that the wife of the PM has been in the public background supporting her husband. The occasional outing on her own is appropriate as the wife of the PM, but so is doing her own thing. We have had some fine ladies in the role of PM's wife and on the first occasion we have a PM's husband he blows it for generations to come - mind you, his PM partner has tainted that role for women as well.
    ''
    geomac
    27th May 2014
    1:19pm
    The Sun interviewed Tim and printed the story . This is not a report on what Tim tweeted or said at a speech so how is it clamouring for the spotlight ? Its a puff piece .
    Seeing as the Abbott family minus two daughters have moved in to kirribilli house there will be plenty of scope for funds raisers there . The fund raisers will be for the Liberal party but maybe Marge can squeeze in a charity or two . So much for Abbott denying he would live in the mansion if elected . Is that another broken promise ?
    Polly Esther
    27th May 2014
    2:10pm
    Gee whiz folks, take a step back and have a look at yourselves. What a hell of a lot of venomous vitriol is being spat out and all about a subject that is, well let's face it, not that important enough to really worry about, or get that het up about. Think about it people, it really isn't is it?
    MICK
    27th May 2014
    2:24pm
    Correct. The problem with AVERAGE Australians is that they are generally dumb, easily swayed by charlatans and are sheep waiting to be led. That's why it is so easy to get many in the country to vote in a despicable government without recognising what these people are and who they represent. And it ain't ordinary Australians. From much of what I have read above these folk are sadly so addicted to the propaganda and lies from their chosen political party that they fail to recognise that they are the lobsters in the pot slowly being heated and knowing no better. May the Lord open their eyes. But then you have to hope that they want to see the truth. Many prefer not to because 'ignorance is bliss as the saying goes.
    particolor
    27th May 2014
    3:21pm
    Yep !! Lobster Thermidor anyone ??.. Chef wont be long now !!He is just Grinding the Lobsters up and Whacking Them back in their Shells now !!... You'll LEEERVE the Sauce !! A La Kirribilli Superbo ....
    wally
    28th May 2014
    9:55am
    Hi mick. Your post of 2:24 on the 27th about dumb average Aussies falling for the lies of political con artists is one thing I agree with you about. The 2007 electoral campaign result that became known as the"Rudd Slide" provides ample proof to support your statement. But then, as Rudd's charm began to fall away as reflected in the polls, the Labor Caucus got jittery and dumped him the way football clubs dump non performing coaches. So maybe the public had wised up by 2010, only to be conned once more by the campaign that elected Julia Gillard. You might say that voter intelligence is a cyclical thing.
    Or as Abe Lincoln said, "You can fool all of the people some of the time and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Which brings me to ask this question. If the Labor government was so good at running the Australian economy after Rudd was elected in 2007, why was it necessary to borrow $Billions from China? I hope you do a better job of looking after your household finances than Rudd, Gillard and Swan did in looking after Australia's.
    Ok
    28th May 2014
    10:54am
    wally! well thought out answer! I did copy your reply and posted it on Facebook.
    MICK
    28th May 2014
    1:56pm
    I hope that Ok reads your post wally and takes note.

    First thing: I DO NOT SUPPORT EITHER SIDE OF POLITICS, or the toxic Greens for that matter. So from ME...Swan is a self righteous dork, but at least he is not a lying crook like some of the current batch if that is any consolation to one eyed liberal stooges. I contacted the world's greatest treasurer (ha, ha) whilst he was in the job and repeatedly told him that iron ore prices were not going to hold and that Australia should not put all of its eggs in the one basket with China....and more. I was indeed correct about iron ore (down from $190 a ton to $95 a ton now). But what I got back from Swan's office says a lot about the ego of the man. The rest is still in play.

    I could tell you things about the Chinese shadow banking system and unimaginable debt which will never be repaid to make your hair curl but suffice it to say that this is almost certain to blow up in China's face and cause a world wide depression. I hope that I have this one wrong but I think not.

    Response to your question: the Rudd Labor government did inherit a surplus from the Howard regime. No issues with that. But what the knockers refuse to acknowledge or even understand is that when the GFC hit (just after Labor was elected from memory) the rest of the world got instant HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT but Australia didn't. Why? Whilst I never condoned what Rudd did the government of the day needed to achieve two things: 1. Keep Australians working so that the money going around the economy kept doing so = no job losses!! 2. Get something going QUICKLY. I would have preferred to see infrastructure projects brought forward but these take years to set up and get started and Australia did at that time not have the luxury of this course of action. So what do you do? According to Ok, God bless the poor bugger, do nothing, have 20% unemployment and hope that 'she'll be right'. No comment mate!!

    I see that you've had a swipe at me wally but I do need to inform you that my household budget is run with military precision and that my self funded retirement earns my family LESS than the pension and it is not guaranteed to keep coming. I do not take a cent from the government but with this pittance I manage to pay the bills, live reasonably and then travel overseas for 2 months EVERY YEAR....and I don't mean Tasmania. My family went without for decades, saved and planned for the future. And now because we are not sucking on taxpayers we, like many others, are hit with new taxes from a morally corrupt, lying, low life bunch of misfits who claim the they are acting "for the nation" when all they are doing is playing a shell game and transferring money from poor and average Australians with their new taxes and putting it into the bank accounts of big business and the rich via tax cuts and superannuation deals from which other Australians are locked out.

    I hate debt wally. I have no effective debt myself and I would like to see the national debt disappear too. But the slogans which Ok and others keep repeating are the slogans which this government uses to control those too dumb to see that they are being controlled with deceit and lies. It breaks your heart that some Australians are so easily controlled. Sheep and cattle, no more.

    Sadly governments in this country are great at waste and being unaccountable. Both sides. That is why I tell Australians the truth: vote Independent and the culture will change as the bastards will realise that the public will throw them out. But sadly Australians are addicted to their own beliefs and refuse to understand that this is a game which their often limited intelligence cannot win unless they hunt in packs. Pensioners also should have a political party and ALL VOTE IN ONE LINE. That way the whole political game would change overninght. But given the exchanges I have had with Ok above I understand that some people are beyond help and believe things which are easily dispelled by the facts, but which they will not confont lest their 'beliefs' turn out to be nonsense. What can I say.

    Would I do a good job if I were PM? I guarantee you of that as I have a history of fixing damage done by do gooders who love to have an opinion but who also have no idea and prefer an opinion to keeping quiet and letting those who can fix do so. Another life maybe.
    Radish
    28th May 2014
    4:48pm
    My husband hates the media with a vengeance.
    I am coming around to his way of thinking quite rapidly myslelf.
    Sensationalism and misinformation is the order of the day.
    MICK
    28th May 2014
    7:52pm
    You have my respect as you are seeing who is running propaganda campaigns and polarised beat ups. But guess what: the media is owned by big business whose bidding it routinely does. Whilst you get the occasional public interest story you routinely have the interests of the rich end of town pushed. Think about the Abbott election campaign and the year or two leading up to it. This was never a fair contest and the result was obvious a year out.
    Then think about the financial commentators. When a particular stock reaches a level which cannot be maintained any longer or the market reaches a point where it is about to crash you get the media plugging hard on every other occasion. then the stock or the market crashes and small players, ordinary people with a few bob in the market, lose most of their capital whilst the big players have sold their stash at the top (to small fry). So the small fry get burned and the big boys get the loot.
    This is fact, not fiction. History just keeps repeating itself. At least you have recognised that there is a problem with the big media players.
    wally
    29th May 2014
    12:44pm
    Hi Mick. I suspect that the cost of running government is made worse but an ever expanding public service. The cost of paying these people on the government payroll makes it almost impossible to be able to identify where to make the cuts, so in the grand old "one size fits all and hammering all the round pegs through square holes", We arrive at a slash and burn approach to the public service. The last ones hired being the first ones sacked does little to improve public service efficiency as senior public servants instinctively put self preservation ahead of being innovative. So the Juggernaught rolls on in the time honoured and wasteful manner.
    PS Congratulations on coping so well on the pittance you are allowed to live on. For the time being,at least, I too are getting by. Like everyone else, I wonder what the future holds for us all, and hope to get through it all in good health.
    MICK
    29th May 2014
    1:24pm
    If this government is not unceremoniously thrown out then fear the worst. Hockey himself made the very clear statement at the end of his budget speech stating "we're not finished yet". All the liberal party drones need to take careful note as Hockey is after pensioners and will do things like include the family homes in the assets test and more than likely reintroduce Death Duties as this is an easy way to get money. Dead people cannot object you know. And there's more.
    In regard to the public service I have to tell you that there are more than a few in this line of work who have no real jobs and others who are employed to produce propaganda and others still who a set the task of writing useless reports. I can atest to this as my local council has recently had a review after years of negligence, unaccountable misconduct and ongoing waste of ratepayer money. The response after being pushed for several decades was a review where council played musical chairs but did not address the core issues. I do not hold out a lot of hope for any public service restructures as those in charge protect those who need to go. Its a perverse club where the public remains the loser.
    retroy
    30th May 2014
    10:18am
    What a grub.
    Criticism of Margie is so hypocritical when there were reports of this individual demanding VIP tickets to the V 8 Supercar races especially overseas.
    What was he any way, and just what did he do ?
    Certainly not a husband, and did not go out and earn a decent quid.
    Oars
    31st May 2014
    9:02am
    What bloody gall- to even compare Marhie Abbott with Tim the bludger. What brings him out of the back parlor? Living in luxury but contributing nothing-typical of your type.
    Go back to your smear campaign backroom you hypocrit Mathieson. One would think he would try to hide from limelight seeing his community services were zilch. Still, these commos are like that- never stop winging or stealing other people's limelight. Go Margie- another Kiwi who brings TALENT to our shores thank goodness.
    MICK
    31st May 2014
    11:41am
    You sound like a card carrying liberal Oars: full of vitriole and short on fact. The reality is that ALL ex pollies and their partners are on the payrole for life. A great deal.
    And if you do not want any to make comment then perhaps have a look at Reith, Howard, Fraser on your side of politics. These has beens all get in front of the cameras, as do a few Labor ex's as well, and make comments.
    Better that you ignore comments rather than fly the liberal flag given what happened after the election and in the first budget. That should be where the real focus is.
    wally
    31st May 2014
    12:41pm
    Hi mick. You want to throw out the present government . What, or who, are you going to replace it with? Another three years with (the last of the three stooges) Wayne Swan as treasurer for another three years? Can we look forward to another minority Labor government with a Labor/Clive Palmer Party alliance? Or will it be a Labor/ Green/ Clive Palmer Party running (or should that be ruining?) Australia" Would we see the new government waste more taxpayers' money on poorly thought out schemes (ie NBN, the Building the Education Car Port scheme to benefit the Labor Mates in the construction industry, the shocking Pink Batts scheme to enrich the fly -by- nighters and the lawyers' gravy train that was set in motion by the cessation of Howard's Pacific Solution?) Did the taxpayers really have to pay for all of Kevin Rudd's thought bubbles in the name of saving the country when it might not have required such financial over-kill. Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it foisted off on all of us.
    MICK
    31st May 2014
    1:39pm
    You are on with a lot of rhetoric wally but do not confront the issues real well preferring instead to keep repeating what you have heard in the last election campaign. This is of no help to anyone. The issues:

    1. Labor was not good but please spare me the same Abbott electioneering about Pink Batts. This is a smoke screen and you are simply regurgitating this with no thought going into the matter. First: the pink batts were thrown into action as a quick way to created jobs when faced with instant unemployment all over the world. I suppose you did not even notice that it was business as usual in Australia. Nobody lost their job!! The program improved energy efficiency and saved on power bills, including yours I dare say. The issue with the scheme is that the problems of bad installers was put back on the government rather than the bosses who employed the kids. IT WAS THEIR FAULT in just the same manner as other employers are responsible for ensuring a safe workplace for their employees. Your rants and those from the other cockatoos who keep going on about this need to step back and see if they are being parrots primed up by this malicious government or if their position is fair dinkum. Please do not insult peoples intelligence with the next red herrings: school halls. Where I will grant that you have a case is with the asylum seeker issue where Labor had a gun to its head from the likes of Sarah Hanson Young and the toxic Greens heart ache pathos which was essentially a 'build a bridge' policy where numbers without limits were to come here and get on the lifetime dole..at the expense of every citizen. On this you will have no argument.

    2. Liberal: the Abbott government, in case your eyes have been closed, lied its way into government and used false accusations about many of the supposed short comings of Labor. There was no budget crisis then but there is under Abbott and you would do well to compare the Labor $15 billion to now. You'll get quite a shock. Having made a whole pile of promises which it never intended to keep (not one of them) Abbott as soon as he was elected made the first call which set the agenda. he scuttled superannuation proposals (left by Labor) for average Australians whilst he retained those for the rich. So we get to the budget. The lying bastards sold it as "heavy lifting", "sharing the burden" and "do it for the country". The reality is that this budget is not about "sharing" as average Australians copped the hits from all directions whilst the big end of town (the rich) got a 1.5% reduction in tax. Whilst the Deficit Reduction tax hits them it is for 2 years only whilst the other taxes are ongoing. And of course Hockey finished his budget presentation with the words "we're not finished yet".

    So please spare me the rhetoric wally. You need to start listening and thinking for yourself and not repeating propaganda from either side of politics. This is where ordinary people sell themselves short. They behave like cattle and the political masters heard them accordingly. It breaks your heart.

    The question which has no answer is who you elect. From my perspective you AVOID all three of the major parties: Liberal, Labor and Greens. They're all toxic. These parties are broken and the only way to fix them is to vote them out and then the recriminations will begin and they will have to change or die. In the meantime do yourself a favour, if you can get over your own political bias, and VOTE FOR A GOOD INDEPENDENT. It matters little whom you choose as long as you stay away from the village idiot. There are decent Independents in most electorates and they will do a job for their electorates as well as (in time) produce decent, proper and accountable governments. The current crop all have their vested interests, unaccountable and in some cases corrupt and a total lack of respect for voters and the welfare of the nation. Make your vote count. Ignore the blatant lying political propaganda campaigns because this is what the bastards do to control you and many. But I imagine that you are too far gone mate and will still be talking the same nonsense in the decade, so why I am wasting my time. Lord give me strength!! Cheers.
    wally
    31st May 2014
    5:58pm
    Hi mick. Know any "good" independents that wont turn rat once they get their snouts in the trough? Brian Harradine and Ted Mack were, but they are long gone. We will have to wait another month to see how the new Senate independents turn out. I would like to share your hope that the "new breed" of independents will be truly independent and resist the temptation of getting into the "pork barrel" in exchange for their votes, but I am not confident this will happen.
    MICK
    31st May 2014
    11:49pm
    Pollies often turn feral when they get into parliament where they are seduced and begin to believe that they are more important than the electorate they represent.....or more importantly believe that the sun shines from their private parts. You get the gist.
    Whilst you are rightly cynical about Independents I point to the fact that the last parliament had one Independent who tried to introduce gambling reforms to protect people from becoming destitute with the clubs happy to take every last cent they had. And there was another who wanted to do something about stopping the sale of alcohol at all hours of the night because drunk young patrons then went out and killed an innocent person. Nobody from either Liberal or Labor wanted to have a bar of these reforms because both sides are bankrolled by money from the pubs and clubs lobby. Its a bit like the US where massacres keep happening because the gun lobby will not even permit background checks for gun purchasers and owners. One state (Tennesse??) recently allowed the sale of guns to people with a previous criminal record. The point being that the major parties are little more than prostitutes who are for sale because their election campaigns are being funded by dirty and immoral businesses like the liquor and gambling businesses which claim to care but in reality do everything in their power to stop any controls on its sales of grog or gambling addiction, no matter what the results.
    The above should give you something to think about. Independents may not be perfect but both sides of politics are scared shi**ess that people will vote for Independents. This is why both sides implored people not to vote for Independents at the last election: not because they are bad but BECAUSE THEY WILL PERFORM THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT AND NOT ACCEPT WHAT MANY AUSTRALIANS WOULD CONSIDER BRIBES....or whatever you call it when favours are bought.
    Its a pity that most Australians are not smart enough to see the political game for what it is and do what is needed to fix it. As I said before: vote for Billy the Blacksmith if you wish, just do not vote for the 2 sides of politic which have sold you out repeatedly. There's an old saying: "If it ain't broken then don't fix it". And if it don't work then change what you are doing. Sadly Australians seem to be unable to heed such simple and fundamentally correct advice. God help us. We truly deserve the governments we get.
    wally
    1st Jun 2014
    10:37am
    Hi mick, The trouble is the actual voting system. The average voter is more interested in their football teams or favourite dogs or horses at the races or which celebrity is *******ing who than they are in what the pollies are up to.
    Unless they are directly affected by proposed, perceived or actual government policies, they are content to focus their attention on other areas as mentioned above. Media does play a part in this, as people pay good money to find out what the celebs are up to, what the footy stars are up to, or who cooked, sang or danced better on TV last night, in the print media. Media sales of advertising space go up pandering to the tastes of the public as the radio and tv ratings show. Hell, some of the US viewing public even complained when their soap operas were interrupted by news bulletins reporting the shooting of President Kennedy! This is an almost universal condition. At least the US does not force voters to turn up at the polling booth on election day.
    We have mandatory attendance at polling booths on election day here, forcing unwilling, disinterested people to trawl through lengthy ballot papers tho pick and number their favourites from a horde of candidates from both the major parties and largely unknown and anonymous independents. Since voting is an onerous burden for these voters, it is no wonder that so many of them adopt the donkey voting system to escape the voting booth as quickly as possible so they can concentrate on more agreeable pursuits.
    So what to do? Get rid of the "number all the boxes game" that preferential voting has turned into? Make voting optional? First past the post? Limit the number of preferential voting boxes to tick to, say five?
    The voting system is broken when you consider the percentage of informal votes in the last election. Voting to too complex, time consuming and onerous for many voters and thus is in dire need of an overhaul to better meet the needs of the people, not the political parties.
    MICK
    1st Jun 2014
    2:31pm
    Looks like we are the last 2 warriors standing.

    I agree with your sentiments. People are so 'lowest common denominator' beings and politics is too much trouble...until the ceiling falls in. Both sides of politics have let the nation all but fall into foreign hands and we are seeing the chickens come home to roost as less and less jobs are there for Australians to do. The game isn't over yet but there will come a stage when Australians will be looking to blame somebody for their plight.........other than themselves, who are to blame.
    You have recognised that voters in this country are apathetic. I mean you wouldn't want to ruin a good afternoon at the club by having to elect your next government would you. Sadly voters choose their candidate either from the poster at the booth entrance (he looks good....derrrrr) or from the media campaigns which tell us all who is a good candidate (normally untrue). The last election was an unabated one sided media campaign which was pushing for an Abbott government. Whilst I have a foot in neither camp it irked me to see such an unfair and dishonest campaign funded by the big end of town so that its man got in. He did. And now all average Australians are paying the price and the money is flowing from poor to rich. So sad.
    Personally I would be happy with a first past the post system. But then what do you do if say you had a coalition victory and then Labor and the Greens had a majority in the parliament. It wouldn't work because the winning party could not get its policies implemented. So we appear to be stuck with what we have.
    What gets up my craw is that the candidates do not have to declare where their preferences are going until after the election. So if I vote for candidate D but do not want the preferences to flow on to a low life party of the day (Liberal at the moment) then I want to be sure that my candidate will pass the preference on to the the least worst party, Labor. Whilst I would not be happy with who got it I at least would have made my stand and if enough Australians did the same then both sides would see that voters were deserting and have to change or eventually die. This is where voters can win, even if the Independent they back is not all that good. Pick a good Independent and you win both ways. How do I know? Answer: I ran at the 2010 election and would have done a great job for the region and not been able to be bought. Sadly voters wanted their party: Labor. And so it got what it deserved, very little other than being sold out.
    Cheers. Catch you on another blog.