Australia’s most (and least) trusted media organisations

Australians have revealed their most trusted media organisation.

Australia’s most (and least) trusted media organisations

Australians have spoken, this time revealing their most trusted media organisation, as well as the least trusted, in a new landmark survey from Roy Morgan.

Findings from the survey of 5111 Australians revealed that they trust the ABC most and Facebook least. In fact, almost half of all Australians (47 per cent) deeply distrust social media as a source of news and information.

“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics. While their distrust of Facebook and social media is driven by fake news, manipulated truth, false statistics and fake audience measurement,” said Roy Morgan CEO Michele Levine.

The MEDIA Net Trust Survey was conducted over four rounds, showing that the ABC is by far the nation’s most trusted media organisation, with SBS the second-most trusted, followed by Fairfax at third.

Only nine per cent of Australians distrust the ABC.

While trust is an important measure of a media outlet’s perceived integrity, distrust is the critical measure everyone’s ignoring, says Ms Levine.

“The absence of the voices of distrust should be alarming every CEO and company director,” she said.

“Distrust is where our deepest fears, pain and betrayal surface – the shock of discovering we were foolish to trust too much.

“And nowhere is that sense of betrayal more profound than in our media brands.

“When we subtract distrust from trust to achieve a Net Trust Score or NTS, we reveal a minus NTS for the Australian media industry.

“The banking industry has an NTS of minus 18 per cent, compared to the media industry with an NTS of minus 7 per cent. So, while the media industry is less toxic than banks, it is still in negative territory.”

SBS was also rated as Australia’s most trusted commercial television network, well ahead of the other three commercial networks.

According to survey respondents, their top-five drivers of distrust in commercial television are:

1. False news / fake news.

2. Bias.

3. News is sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.

4. Pushing commercial or political agenda.

5. Too much advertising.

 

Do you trust the ABC as a reputable source of unbiased news and information? Which television network do you most trust? What causes you to distrust a media outlet? Do you trust social media?

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    28th Jun 2018
    8:57am
    ABC most trusted by lefties of course
    Not by independent thinkers
    Kathleen
    28th Jun 2018
    10:19am
    I take it a Leftie by your definition would be someone who cares for the poorest and most vulnerable in our society, believes the environment needs saving and would think taking two billion from the NDIS is a crime!
    Travellersjoy
    28th Jun 2018
    10:30am
    Since most "Lefties" are independent thinkers, unmodified by Murdoch propaganda to believe that black is white, and grey is where the equivocators hide, I think you are barking up the wrong tree here.

    One clue to the difference is the amazing diversity of thinking on the left, compared to the monolingual, monotone, monoculture, mono-idea of the right.
    Another clue is the preparedness of 'the left' to live and let live, but also to care, co-operate, support, encourage and learn from each other across all sorts of barriers put up by 'the right'.
    Travellersjoy
    28th Jun 2018
    10:37am
    From the research reported above, it would seem you are in a very lonely place with your 'independent thinkers' Raphael.

    Is Tony Abbott out there with you, or Donald Trump?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    11:08am
    What else would a right wing government sponsored stooge say?

    The problem with you Raphael is that you are incapable of thought but rather you're a blind puppet who follows the worst political party in living memory. Amazing what a few bucks will do to some people.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    11:58am
    Trust the Rightards here to drone on about the ABC's alleged - but non-existent - Left bias.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    1:47pm
    Raphael, what's it like being called a right wing stooge by a left wing stooge, at least he didn't mention Hitler yet so far today.
    He's paid per post by the ALP did you know?
    maelcolium
    28th Jun 2018
    1:49pm
    That man is a fool.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    3:13pm
    Travellers Joy, is this so called balanced perspective and live and let live attitude exemplified by the restaurant owner in Lexington who kicked out a Trump employee from his restaurant, because she was, shock, horror, a Trump employee? Is it the same balanced and live and let live perspective shown by the activist group Get Up - who attack everyright wing demonstration with hatred and violence (and I note Get Up is funded by the union movement). Yes, the left is so balanced - not!
    Linda
    28th Jun 2018
    4:29pm
    Well 9 percent have trust issues with the ABC. Big, Al, these folks are sincere in objecting to the direction the current government is taking on a number of fronts. I certainly share the general alarm people are feeling as things are done by trickery and stealth. A prime example is the treatment of our most valuable people owned broadcaster. The Trump employee was paid to stand in front of cameras and lie to the American people. That she is prepared to do that, is why someone did not want her to be in their establishment. Get up has been able to balance our corporate donation mad owners of some of the political folks. Our far right leaning elected people seem to be following the antics we see over seas, and we have sound reasons to be alarmed.

    Thankfully the Australian society in general, are less than receptive to the destructive and sneaky methods.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    4:37pm
    Errr.... yeah, Big Al ... that restaurant owner.. like... ah ... yeah ... like errrr.. runs the media.....

    We'll just throw blanket cover over anyone with a differing view and call them 'lefties' or 'righties' and so forth.... stuff the issues.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    4:52pm
    Linda - cant you see that the behavior of that restaurant owner was the same sort of behavior perpetrated by the Nazis against the Jews in 1930s Germany? Am I the only one that can see this? Surely not? So what you are saying is that any store owner has the right to discriminate against anyone coming into his/her premises based on their political affiliation - so where does that stop? Let's just extend it a little to say, religion? Race? Sexuality? Linda - your condoning of that restaurateurs actions is taking us back to the 1960s - please don't do that?
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:27pm
    We all see it, Al - it's just not relevant to discussion of the ABC.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    5:30pm
    Have to agree with Raphael on this one. Some have me mentioned President Trump and Mr Abbott in a negative way, so that indicates that those who are deriding these 2 fine men and politicians are indeed not "independent" thinkers. Socialism has never achieved much for the common man and never will.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    5:56pm
    In fact Trebor it is, because the greatest Trump haters in this country are all located at YOUR ABC - nothing impartial there!
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:14pm
    Well - like discussion here - we are all adults and can determine for ourselves whether or not we agree with the editorial line, Big Al.

    I'm happy to listen to their blurb, but to agree or disagree as I see fit.... I'm still holding my fire on Trump since I'd like to see which way he really blows ..... so far good and bad...

    Now Tony - well... what can you say? There is a man who cannot walk on water for the simple reason that he's shot his own feet full of holes...and who cannot be stabbed in the back because the scar tissue from past stabbings is too thick.

    Malcolm wears a bullet-proof back vest, I'm told.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    9:06pm
    Wow Raphael,

    If 9% did not trust the ABC does that mean by coincident that the other 91% just happened to be all so call lefties.
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    10:59am
    Nah - the concept is that the 91% are the lower socio-economic groups, who are nothing more than cattle in the fields to be lead around by the nose...

    You can't expect the peasants to understand the intricacies of public broadcasting and its content.
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    8:44am
    The major right wing media outlets:

    1. False news / fake news.
    2. Bias.
    3. News is sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.
    4. Pushing commercial or political agenda.
    5. Too much advertising.

    Pretty well tells the story. The coalition funded trolls working this website of course will run the "leftist" and "bias" propaganda the same as they are now running the "you can't trust Labor" propaganda when exactly the opposite is the case. YOU CAN'T TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT WHICH IE OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE TOP END OF TOWN FOR ITS SOLE PURPOSES: MORE MONEY.
    Tax cuts anyone? What about offshore tax shelters?
    Kathleen
    28th Jun 2018
    10:14am
    Yay, go ABC! My ABC!
    maxchugg
    29th Jun 2018
    11:02am
    People who have conservative views are now labelled as right wing by Mick and others. The hostility is difficult to understand when these so-called right wingers want to retain traditional values such as freedom of speech, equality under the law, and so on.

    From the other side we see such things as academics who refuse to toe the radical left wing line of the universities losing their jobs, the so-called "safe schools" program which has everything to do with indoctrination and nothing to do with safety, the Catholic Church hauled before a court for distributing leaflets to presumably Catholic parents explaining their church's views of marriage - and no, Mick, I'm not Catholic.

    Traditional views are permitted now one day a year, Anzac Day when all the hypocrites gather to praise the servicemen who died to protect the very values that are now being trampled in the dust.
    maxchugg
    29th Jun 2018
    11:02am
    People who have conservative views are now labelled as right wing by Mick and others. The hostility is difficult to understand when these so-called right wingers want to retain traditional values such as freedom of speech, equality under the law, and so on.

    From the other side we see such things as academics who refuse to toe the radical left wing line of the universities losing their jobs, the so-called "safe schools" program which has everything to do with indoctrination and nothing to do with safety, the Catholic Church hauled before a court for distributing leaflets to presumably Catholic parents explaining their church's views of marriage - and no, Mick, I'm not Catholic.

    Traditional views are permitted now one day a year, Anzac Day when all the hypocrites gather to praise the servicemen who died to protect the very values that are now being trampled in the dust.
    Adrianus
    28th Jun 2018
    10:16am
    1. False news / fake news.
    A. I think that is prolific regardless of which media outlet.
    2. Bias.
    A. Again that exists in pockets of all media.
    3. News is sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.
    A. There is less need for the ABC to sensationalise because of commercial reality. There dollars roll in regardless and more flows in with a Labor government.
    4. Pushing commercial or political agenda.
    A. All media outlets are doing this but the ABC is by far the more focussed. eg Insiders, Q&A etc
    5. Too much advertising.
    A. Perhaps that would be different if the ABC relied less on the taxpayer?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    11:15am
    Fake news? Describes all of your posts Adrianus. Like Raphael you are cash for comment and should be banned from comment given that this government owns pretty well all of the media outlets in this country.

    As Christopher Pyne gloatingly said after the last election "there's a reason why coalition governments have been in office for 16 out of the last 20 years". Given the tripling of Australia's since Abbott took office coalition government are clearly very bad governments which we are currently witnessing. They called for "Budget Repair" and then ran up the tab like no other government in our history and now want to GIVE AWAY $140 billion to the rich and another $50 billion to companies who already extract money from this nation.

    Keep your propaganda to yourself. THAT dear troll is WHY people trust the ABC. Certainly 7 and 9 News will run their propaganda because the top end of town is joined at the hip and works together to control the country...and who gets the wealth of the nation....and it ain't working Australians!
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    12:00pm
    Bravo, MICK! Sock it to 'em!!!
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    1:44pm
    That Troll MICK is in good voice today,paid by the ALP per post no doubt as usual. At least he didn't mention Hitler today and hasn't since 12.41pm on the 25th of June.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    3:20pm
    Mick, I am amazed you would continue to contribute to these forums with your vile and inane opinions. Last Tuesday you alleged that Turnbull was trying to legislate tax cuts for his own personal benefit. On the same day, it was reported by the main stream media, that Turnbull in fact donates his entire parliamentary salary to charity, including the Sydney Childrens Hospital (who have named a wing after him); and an aboriginal co-op in Redfern, among others. So that shot your vile and ridiculous opinions down in a magnificent shower of 'red' flames, and showed what an offensive, uneducated and dishonest grub that you in fact are!
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    3:44pm
    The next two arrive to support their fellow worker.
    I have never heard of Turnbull donating his salary. If he did the right wing media would be plugging this like world stopping news.
    The only grubs on this website are you and the other blatant cash for comment posters who have been put here to get this government re-elected. In case you have not noticed this is not working.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    3:50pm
    Mick, I must confess, I didn't see the story run on your ABC on Tuesday night - but it was certainly front page in the Sydney dailies last Tuesday - and was run to counter yet another attack by Short-on integrity who carries on with the same rubbish you do - and I note that even his own back bench are turning on him for making company tax policy on the run. Like you Mick, the bloke hasn't got a clue! The sooner your lot turf him and replace him with Albanese, who at least has the b@#* to agree that Labor needs to work with business, the sooner the rest of us might deign to listen to an intelligent counter proposal.
    arbee
    28th Jun 2018
    4:02pm
    Not hard to see all of the lefties coming on strong today and having a go at anyone commenting truly about the bias of the ABC,
    Mick and knows Nothing, 2 of the worst offenders.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    4:38pm
    Wow - I was waiting for the hate squad to appear in a gang... ganging up is the best available, eh, boys?

    I like the ABC....
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:55pm
    Big Al - the first almost balanced post for a while. Keep it up.
    We'll agree Shorten lead with the jaw. If he were smart about the loaded question he would have not said anything.
    I do not personally agree with Shorten on the company tax grab. Labor would be better served having a two pronged rule similar to those pushing retirees off any pension. Fist limit the TURNOVER to $10 million. The add an income test of say $400,000. That would be fair...but not to marauding business lining up at the feeding trough to rape taxpayers.
    For the record if you think businesses are doing it tough then ponder CEOs earning up to $20 a year (Alan Joyce) or tradies who cost a motza and are hard to get. The only people struggling is average citizens who are being screwed by businesses wanting to keep it all whilst crying poor.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:17pm
    Mal's just dumped the company tax cuts - so there'll be no artificial and non-existent hike in tax for companies from not getting a cut (yardle, yardle, yardle)...

    Term 'hike' brought to you courtesy of the Sydney Moaning Herald yesterday... a newspaper to whom a lack of a cut to companies is a hike but a lack of a rise to workers is not a cut, even in real terms.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:25pm
    TREBOR - don't believe a word of it. Howard was kicked out for 'Work Choices', a policy designed to turn workers into impoverished citizens. This lot change the name and resurrected it.
    Just because this lot could not get the numbers does not mean they have dumped the policy. Just put it on the back burner whilst they bribe back benchers to vote for it. We'll see who has integrity. I'll be shocked if Hanson does not roll over.
    Seenitall
    28th Jun 2018
    8:04pm
    Big Al - I've never voted Liberal in my life but I do agree with you that Shorten has just put another bullet in his foot and this time the wound may prove fatal. His current tax policy announcement combined with the recent dividend imputation farce has alienated a large chunk of middle Australia that just may have voted for him given the toxic internal politics of the coalition. The sooner he can be replaced with Anthony Albanese so Labor has time to regroup before the next federal election the better.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    9:17pm
    I agree with you about Anthony Albanese He should have been leader. Labor are as bad for internal politics as the liberals are.

    Labor would have been ahead without bad liberal policies if he had become leader. He didn't have the baggage that Shorten has.
    Adrianus
    30th Jun 2018
    12:31pm
    Seenitall, did you not take any notice of the latest opinion poll? Labor is winning the popularity contest, only just winning, but Shorten is not liked by the population and 50% of the Labor caucus. Shorten will eventually suffer the same fate he brought upon Rudd and Gillard but not until after he loses the next election.
    Travellersjoy
    28th Jun 2018
    10:35am
    ABC is by far the most trustworthy news and information source in Australia - and for a diversity of entertainment too, until the neoliberal IPA/LNP decided they could ruin its future by cutting funding every budget, and forcing them to waste time and public money on pursuing the petty grievances of various IPA acolytes.

    Except for the ads, forced on SBS by government policy, I love SBS too.

    Between them I am well informed, challenged to think, entertained, and, best of all, listened to.

    The rest are worse than rubbish, they are toxic to democracy and to an informed and engaged polity.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    3:44pm
    It is.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    11:19am
    The fact that the ABC is the most trusted media outlet in the country is a no brainer. Why? Because it is a "leftist" media outlet or because it tells the truth and will not let the top end of town get away with its fraudulent misuse of the media to promote itself and then steal the wealth of the nation from ordinary Australians. It's a no brainer!

    What Australians need to do is turn off the propaganda news and understand they are being groomed to vote against their own interests. Why do you think this government is trying so hard to close down the ABC? Two funding cuts, installing an ex Murdoch CEO and continued discussion and calls to shut it down. That is what dictatorships do and make no mistake WE HAVE ONE IN THE FORMING.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    11:59am
    Anything that differs from allowing the Ruling Elite to go their way unhindered is considered 'Communist' or at least 'leftie'.

    My son's lady just returned from Guatemala, where there are trials on now - of the members and cronies of fourteen families that 'owned' 99% of the assets - for years now Guatemala has had a 'Communist insurrection' complete with assassinations and murders of editors of newspapers etc and of ordinary people wanting a square meal for their children and better health conditions and some work guarantees...

    Sadly the US and others supported the established government.... another example.... but of course now it's all guns and roses since the takeover of power by people power...... what a world to live in.

    I'm developing a novel simply titled Guatemala - and this lady is a godsend - a mine of information.
    KSS
    28th Jun 2018
    1:10pm
    TREBOR you have no need of the lady from Guatemala. Just take a look inside the universities where the Communist insurrection is alive and well. Today's younger generation are already prosthetising the merits of communism - of course they have no knowledge of the destruction of civilisation by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mau or Pol Pot and yet the shutdown has already begun. Students at Sydney university are being failed for using gender based pronouns in assignments, Professor scientists have lost their job for questioning the veracity of global warming data. The stated intent of the 'Safe Schools' program was in fact not 'bullying' but about gender and sexual diversity and the systematic destruction of the family unit. The architect of the program Roz Ward- fully paid up member of the Marxist party - declared so herself. University students being taken to the anti-discrimination tribunal for asking where the computer room was for non-Aboriginal students. Or the cartoonist Bill Leak hounded over a single cartoon. The pervasive 'group think' is already underway and unfortunately it is being aided and abetted by the so-called 'independent' ABC.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    1:49pm
    What a sad little left wing stooge and troll you are MICK..
    No mention of Hitler for 3 days now, what's wrong with you?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    3:46pm
    The only stooges on this website are you roy and the other cash for comment posters who routinely post the lies from party HQ.
    Tax cuts for the rich anyone? What about multinationals exporting income to zero tax regimes? Oh...you use one????
    JAID
    28th Jun 2018
    4:20pm
    I trust the ABC more than any other outlet also. That doesn't mean that it is without bias. Perhaps there is a level of managerial bias but the reason I can trust it is that the bias of individual reporters is very evident.

    You can often see it in their faces, the glee at a fairly quiet dig at an unpopular or trendy target.

    Largely, we accept that reporters will infect the image they spin with some of their own spin.

    It can get more difficult when news carries that spin but goes out broad-faced and my thinking is that the ABC is guilty of that also. It would be great to have completely unbiased news but despite some good attempts it is probably a highly unlikely state.

    Perhaps the most annoying media habit for me is the news they make for the sake of having news. Somebody says something which sounds a bit controversial and it is put across as a great stirring of the popular pot while any in the area who have heard what was said brush it off as something to say or fly if they give a bugger at all.

    Witness the Lord Mayor of Woop Woop recently going out on a limb and noting that 'his' city is being damaged and cluttered by too much tourism. Tourists who travel all hours of the day get blamed for the occasional half-hour peak hour jam when too many public servants want to clock off at the same time of a Friday afternoon.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    4:40pm
    KSS - I certainly agree to a certain extent... in every story written there is a parable for some aspect of modern society. Universities are currently over-run by oddball 'agenda' curricula....
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    4:42pm
    Once is enough in any given day, roy - you said it once - now add to the discussion.... or run the risk of being labeled a NAZI like Hitler...

    Pardon me, roy - is Mick the cat that trued the right news?
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:16pm
    Yes, KSS - I've attacked that nonsense of 'using correct words' elsewhere, and will continue to do so. An absolute disgrace and purest insanity. All done by Star Chambers who are not much, if at all, ruled by Law.
    The Bronze Anzac
    28th Jun 2018
    11:41am
    How do you classify the Banking Industry as a Media Industry ?
    BillieBoy
    28th Jun 2018
    11:48am
    I watch ABC because who wants to watch ads or be influenced by commercial bias or sensationalism. Raphael, what has lefties got to do with it? The verdict is in!
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:27pm
    Yes. "Lefties" is just a way of demonising the broadcaster by associating it with people the government demonises for not doing its bidding.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    11:53am
    My view of the ABC is pretty much that shown by the survey. I find it informative and perhaps the only gripe I have is the rather staccato sound of one or two of the presenters - and the tendency of one in particular to interrupt a respondent in the middle of a question.

    I am THE independent thinker... anyone who reads my stuff here will see that. Opposition to the ABC is based on a silly emotion-based whine about feeling discriminated against in coverage.... I've noticed how they equally dismantle Opposition members as much as government, but it stands to reason that since the majority party holds the reins and makes all the decision (and the blues), they are held up to higher scrutiny.

    Jeez - Sir Anthony Abbott complained about discrimination against his party when he was in Opposition - then reckoned it should not be held up to public scrutiny once in elected power (in the House ONLY, remember - never forget - 'power' in this sense does NOT mean total and absolute power over all they survey - that went out with Absolutism). At that time I clearly recall La Gillard and El Rudd being dismantled by the ABC in public debate.

    Poor LIttle Tony and his suffering mates - criticised in public for gaffes and silly self-serving and biased policies - here's 50c - call someone who cares....

    Can't wait for Bill Shorten to be in the hot seat, and for the likes of Leigh Sales to slice and dice him and his party's often vapid ideas.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    7:00pm
    "I am the independent thinker" so said tremor, good god how this man must love himself especially after being found out of removing other persons comments, free speech is not in his vocabulary but then again what does one expect of a person who professes to be a follower of national socialism and using words such as uber fuhrer, sicherheids politzei, etc, all recorded in his responses in these columns, as for the ABC? every man or woman to their taste, me, I only follow their non- political programmes such as gardening Australia, reminds me of tremor trying to grow brains, "antiques roadshow", starring labor micky the antique labor elf or "call the midwife", starring know-it-all,
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:04pm
    Delusional as usual, heemie?

    You simply cannot understand free-flowing discussion... nor do you have the slightest grasp on the context in which references to political ideologies are discussed.....

    Thinking about that for a while should keep you going for an hour or two.

    Was wondering when you'd break in like an elephants's fart...
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:28pm
    Eh gad TREBOR, they opened the cage. Must be really desperate to roll out this one.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    8:49pm
    Imagine trying to undermine the nicest and most articulate and thoughtful contributor here... poor old heemie... he still deludes himself that I removed his posts - even though I listed them elsewhere before they were chopped, to show what scumbags post on this site.

    Poor fellow can't get his mind around the idea that YLC management aren't friendly to nasty commentators... funny that... yet he still persists.

    The absolute definition of stupidity.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    9:30pm
    How the heck does a contributor remove other peoples comments?
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:02am
    They can't - but like countless others, heemie seems to have mistaken me for God.

    28th Jun 2018
    12:01pm
    I wouldn't have thought Facebook would count as a NEWS-media outlet.
    KSS
    28th Jun 2018
    3:13pm
    Oh come on Knows-a-lot. If it's not on Facebook it didn't happen!!! lol
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2018
    1:09am
    Facebook it seems is now the world's ( Globalist Governments ) moderator and has the power to delete users and comments that do not fit in with their mantra. The whole Idenitarian movement was removed from Facebook just the other day, for their so-called extremists views. So everything these days is being carefully monitered, even here on YLC, I am sure. Freedom comes freedom goes, we are in the "goes" phase. Best know your enemy for when the SHTF. Nothing short of a revolution will bring changes so desperately needed by the Europeans.

    28th Jun 2018
    12:04pm
    Wow, 5111 people have spoken (0.02% of the population) and we are expected to believe that the ABC is the most trusted media in Australia. There have been many polls conducted on this subject and more than half of them condemn the ABC as being biased. As with any poll, it's important to see the line of questioning that gives an end result. There will be supporters of this poll but some of those supporters are intolerant of any opinions that oppose their own. Let me add a quote:

    "I see the normal posts from out government sponsored bloggers. YOU NEED TO REMOVE THESE DREW!" This from our friend MICK, about 1500hrs, 27/6/18

    If this site truly believes in fairness then please let us have a range of polls from different sources which should give a balance from a cross section of the community, not a very small group.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    12:44pm
    Yes - let them have their speak - we're all adults here - well maybe not all - and can decide for ourselves.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    12:51pm
    Yes Bob and to quote Evelyn Beatrice Hall: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    1:52pm
    Old Man, We all know MICK is a left wing stooge paid per post by the ALP. I hope he declares that income to the Australian Tax Office, do you MICK?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:06pm
    Sounds like the pressure has become too much for you OM as you push the coalition BS.
    Bias? You really must be kidding. Do you listen to the media in general. Almost all owned by right wing interests pushing the right wing barrow to get their government re-elected. Bugger the country.
    It's about tax cuts for the top end and turning dirt poor workers into 'cup of rice a day' beggars OM. You know that.
    The ABC is not biased. Ripping into corrupt, dishonest and plain bad government is NOT bias. It is journalism. You????
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:20pm
    When that dopey Mal Muj 'terrorist' went on TV to give his views - I said to let him go on a and speak - he'd only show how utterly stupid his (and others) thinking was along those lines.

    I doubt letting him speak would have sent Aussies screaming to join Islam and jihad.... but we'd sure see what his 'core' values were, and could make our own minds up.

    The benefit of letting every idiot speak publicly is that they show how deep is their idiocy.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:32pm
    Sorry that was 'Mall Muj" - no reference to poor long-suffering Mal doing it so tough as spokesperson for The Lost Charade.

    "Mall Muj" are the 'radicalised' Australian born 'mujahideen' who sit around on Newstart drinking coffee and praising IS to high heaven while the US and Friends are blowing them to high heaven, and talking about tearing out a new Khalifate here in Australia.

    DUUUUH!
    Hairy
    28th Jun 2018
    5:53pm
    Yes remove one half of the comedy the other half doesn’t get any laughs
    Crowcrag
    28th Jun 2018
    12:07pm
    Poor old Raphael! He believes he is in some kind of exclusive club - 9% of the population - who are independent thinkers. And not of the ‘left’. So, by your own ‘independent’ logical thinking, if there are only 9% of you, why do we have a Liberal government? Do all those soft headed lefties suddenly vote Liberal at election time?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:09pm
    The poster calling himself Raphael has very few thought processes. He is a blatant government sponsored troll from what I read of his posts and he is not alone. Must be costing the government heaps for some of the commentary but I guess we all pay for that. Perhaps this is a part of the explanation as to why the government has run the debt up for $147 billion when Labor left to the current $551 billion (as of 2017). More now.
    Steff
    28th Jun 2018
    12:11pm
    TheABC is fine if you dont mind the endless Trump bashing and the constant parade of Feminazis and LGBTWTF expousing their agenda on discussion panels where everyone agrees with each other.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    12:58pm
    well said and so true
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:10pm
    Agree but some of this BS is run by all the networks.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    4:12pm
    Steff, you have nailed it! I cant believe the hatred shown towards Trump by this section of the Oz media. I personally am no fan of his, but I have to give him some credit for at least doing (some) ofwhat he says he will do. And I just cant imagine that Hilary could have ever pulled off a meeting with Kim Jong Un - and she had every opportunity in her four years as Secretary of State. Hilary's problem - she thinks that because she is a female and politically active, that this gave her an 'entitlement' to the keys to the White House. I am afraid Hilary was just a poor choice by the Democrats, and the sooner the Left media in this country accept this, and get over it, the better!
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    4:46pm
    Oh - I don't mind The Trumpet.... it's not as if he's doing any real harm at the moment....

    Yes.. Hillary was a poor choice - the only one in the Cabinet room who actually advocated invading Libya during Gaddafi's downfall... what with? Half the National Guard was already committed to Iraq, and Afghanistan was taking up a disproportionate number of 'special forces'.

    Sounded to me like she was suffering from victory disease and a feeling of invulnerability of US arms.... we've seen that before.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    7:14pm
    I am not a fan of the alphabet brigade. Have no time for them. A curse on society al of them.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    8:52pm
    Amazing how much voice tiny, even miniscule, minorities get these days... the screeching and railing against society is straight out of the feminist handbook. They showed the way forward as being to rubbish the 'opposition', control discussion by screeching it's hatred and discrimination to disagree with them, and carry on as if they are the most oppressed group on Earth...

    A fox on all their hen houses...
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2018
    1:12am
    President Trump has halted the Globalists" dream just when they thought they had a clear run to the line. Be thankful for President Trump he is doing you a favour.
    jonboy
    28th Jun 2018
    12:26pm
    Murdoch runs the world. His world of (keeping) money. :(
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:12pm
    He owns this government. I remember Abbott having to fly to the US to see Murdoch after he was put into office and I remember the GetUp add which was pulled off air by all the right wing TV stations because they told Murdoch that "Australians do not need to be told how to vote". Tells a story.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    9:36pm
    Haven't heard much about Murdock lately
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    9:54pm
    Aye, m'lod - the newly minted King must go to Universe Central to pay obeisance to The Emperor.
    Chooky
    28th Jun 2018
    12:48pm
    Well Raphael that’s the sort of comment made only by right wing conservatives who no capacity for balanced analysis or critique whatsoever. But you right wing swill clearly condone Murdoch and his ability to pay NO TAX in Australia while working hard to influence our political landscape. Take a bow with the rest of the right wing muppets.
    Rupert rags feed you need to condone the continuous liberal attack on the elderly, the sick, the disadvantaged, the average worker, universities, the health system, the list goes on.
    I’ll continue to be a humane member of society who will fight against the ugliness that is LNP and their supporters from pervading all that is decent in society.
    We know what the attack on the ABC is about. If Andrew Bolt and his like were able to spread their toxic commentary on ABC there would not be a peep from liberal lovers. The attacks are attempts to silence anything that doesn’t align with LNP ideology. It’s a strike at the heart of democracy.
    If ever liberal muppets wanted a fight, just keep going after our ABC as we see it for what it really is and the backlash will hurt Turnbull and Co. like nothing else.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:14pm
    A completely accurate assessment. We are indeed seeing the ownership of all media and government heading to wealthy corporations.
    Certainly the top end PAY NO TAX in our country and one has to keep asking WHY ARE THE LAWS NOT CHANGED?????? Obvious.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    9:42pm
    Tis amazing that the ABC is always been said it is guilty of bias and should be investigated yet media like Murdocks who are blatantly biased is not and should not be investigated.
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    8:48am
    So who owns the current government? Obvious dear Watson.

    28th Jun 2018
    12:57pm
    The ABC has always been biased Sir Frank Packer said of the ABC in the 60s that ABC - stood for All Bloody Communists. The ABC is left of even the labor party - it is biased. Frankly since I believe in free speech they can say what they like - what I object to is taxpayers money spent on ABC pushing its agenda. To name several - they are all in on climate change, they want open borders and against both labor and coalition on current asylum seeker policies - they only report news on Trump that comes from CNN or BBC or MCBC - nothing from FoxNews (because they champion Trump as well as calling out the Fakenews from they other outlets).
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:21pm
    I cannot remember the 60s as I had better things to do at that age.
    Bias? Maybe mention the main News outlets in the country if you want to start a conversation about bias.
    Now that the election is coming the right wing grooming is on in earnest and I find it difficult to believe that you level this accusation at the ABC when it gives ALL SIDES a fair say. Unlike the main commercial players the ABC does not cut off inconvenient commentary, does not show Turnbull at primary schools and children's hospitals whilst showing the opposition in awkward positions with much shorter air time. The list just rolls on.
    There is a reason Australians trust the ABC and the more you watch the commercial station the more obvious it becomes.
    Fake news? Yes....on commercial stations. Got a real earful earlier today when I listened through a sickening interview with ex liberal party MP Peter Hendy. The claims were let go as fact. Not challenged. Bias????? Really Bob!
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    5:23pm
    Mick -I remember the 60s and was starting on my first degree having finished in top 10% of HSC and joined the military academy to do my bit for country.
    I listen to SkyNews which has balance of labor and coalition commentors.
    fair dinkum if you think the ABC gives all sides a fair go then you having been hood winked. I have no idea what the commercial channels of 7, 9 and 10 have to say on politics as they are so shallow but SkyNews is outtanding.
    I agree with you re hendy - he is a grub.
    Mick - I respect the fact that you debate the issues on principles and often we have to agree to disagree. I rarely see you attacking the person.
    I believe in small government, lower taxes, freedom of speech and the individual / enterprise.
    I detest the ABC, socialism in all its forms, neo marxism and communism.
    I am so delighted that Trump has made the Supreme Court conservative and I wish we had a leader like him. My friends in US tell me their energy costs are down 25% since Trump was elected and are 58% of ours.
    I am so glad that since 1950 nearly 75% had been managed by Coalition governments (plus 10 good years with hale /keating_ that have made Australia great. Our failings have been Mcmahon,Rudd, Gillard and Turnbull.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:36pm
    My suggestion Bob: at the risk of you throwing up your hands there are 2 things Australia desperately needs:

    1. a federal ICAC with wide ranging powers to examine the top end of society and the political class. Both side not just one.
    2. a national Ombudsman, also with wide ranging powers, to control the media. ALL OF IT. Both sides if you want to see it that way. The only caveat would be that the right does not get to stack the deck like it does with every part of our lives. We cannot have cronies in this sort of office.

    If the above are implemented and politicians legislate to keep their dirty hands off then this could work. Guess what? The current government especially will not have a bar of that. What does that tell you??????
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:08pm
    All that would be fine, Bob Mingus, except that successive doses of The Government Of Two Parties have stripped this nation of its industry, its identity, its work ethic, its moral code ... you name it .... so there is nothing at all for your beloved LNP to actually 'build' anything on any more - other than Greed is Good.
    Anonymous
    29th Jun 2018
    10:12am
    Mick - I think you on to something with a National Ombusman - but they must be given serious powers to make things happen
    I worry about a federal ICAC - here is my concern the NSW ICAC went after a Margaret Culleen a barrister over alleged advise - turns out there was no case to answer but the bigger issue was it was not a public service/politiican corruption issue so why was NSW ICAC investigating - subsequent reports showed it was acting like a Star Chamber -also turned out that one of the lawyers inside NSW ICAC was not a fan of Culleen. Until issues like this can be resolved I am not in favour of another ICAC - but you are right if not a federal ICAC then what - maybe give the Inspector General or Auditor General more powers
    Anonymous
    29th Jun 2018
    10:22am
    Trebor -I hear you - and please believe me that I am beholden to the principles set forth by the real Bob Menzies for economic and social conservatism. I currently have no love for the current LNP and the NSW branch is not democratic - that is not everyone gets a vote.
    I share your concerns about industry in this country - but the entire country has been complicit - we have the highest minimum wages coupled with low productivity so many of our industries are gone - we still so well in mining (we are good at digging things out of the ground but not making anything with it), agriculture good, financial sector but after that I struggle to find any thing else we have a comparative advantage (I hear we are good at medical research but have no knowledge on subject).
    I fear we are losing or have lost our Aussie identity - our character today is not the one I grew up on.
    I agree our moral code is an issue but I suspect you and I see it through different prisms - I view it through conservatism and being a christian.
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:13am
    Yes, Bob Mingus - but the biggest problem that leads to higher costs of labour are higher costs of living.

    Too many 'business' people with their fingers in the pot and too many 'business' mouths of one kind or another to feed, in return for essential services such as power, gas, roads and you can include now even childcare without which many people would not be able to work, but which is an added cost via the countless businesses that operate it.

    None of these 'ventures' can now be dismantled without serious harm to the economy and to countless people - the same applies to the insidious affirmative action that has essentially ruined the public service and looks set fair to ruin the armed forces. Once established it is like a cancer and impossible to remove without killing the patient - so far better to never introduce those cane toads at all. (mexed mitaphor for ya).

    As for mining and cattle production - these are so blatantly Third World ventures (Banana Republic) that they are essentially meaningless to our greater economy - for the simple reasons that they employ very few, and at the same time benefit mightily a few but not all, and essentially pay little to no tax into the common pool/fund. there is zero hope for any future in being a Banana Republic enslaved to the global economy - which someone above suggested Trump has stonewalled for the moment (told yez he is a national socialist - not the same as a National Socialist for the uneducated - ALL viable politicians are nationalistic and socialist to significant degree - unlike the globalists who are intent on ruin of the nation and the creation of Hunger Games for real).

    I would venture to suggest that we share similar codes of moral conduct, though I decline to be viewed as of any religious bent. Religion has little to do with morality other than giving it a framework on which to hang. The moral code of IS, for example, may be based on a religion of peace (as the majority in it may wish it to be), but it is still a pursuit of a false god - that can be the pitfall of any religious affiliation.
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:16am
    Oh - yes - Menzies was indeed a socialist of a national kind - not that far removed from Labor at this time in reality - with the emphasis on an effective combination of capitalism and socialism. I think his problem was in labeling any who differed as being 'communist', and using that as a political ploy.

    Yes - I was in the green Machine in the 60's and such, and read Mao's little red book and revolutionary warfare according to Mao and Che, and also Intervention and Revolution and have studied terrorism etc.

    No more to be said.
    MITZY
    29th Jun 2018
    11:29am
    The 5000 odd people polled must have been all "seniors"? Most trusted entities: the ABC; SBS; Fairfax. I seem to be right in there with those polled. I don't find ABC/SBS biased and Leigh Sales gives it good to all politicians and also states if she has interviewed one side she has given equal opportunity for the other side to comment. In fact this week she even had all the photos of pollies up who had declined to make their comments in reply. I watch part of ABC breakfast (after taking the dog for a walk beforehand). I turn to News24 thereafter while not watching it but listening here and there while doing my chores. Off goes the TV Tuesday & Thursday mornings when I go to Aqua and Seniors' Exercise classes and once a month different days when I attend Probus and a Gardening Club. Never watch Question Time (an insult to one's intelligence) sometimes watch the National Press Club addresses, depends what's interesting and Monday nights I never change of ABC until after Q&A! In the evening watch Channel 7 news and then turn to the ABC for 7.00 p.m. news and 7.30 report. Then there is not much else to watch so channel hop or read the newspaper (which happens to be the SMH). Watch a bit of sport but seeing as the pay tv has the bulk of it, that's limited these days if you are not interest in the thugs game of league. However I do like some of the ABC's short mini productions overseas ones as well as Australian ones, although with the cuts to funding the ABC has too many repeat performances these days.
    Anonymous
    29th Jun 2018
    1:51pm
    Trebor - an excellent summary - I think you and I could have a debate on a range of issues - there are few things you said I would disagree with - might express some a little differently or come at the point from a sightly different perspective - but there is much to be said in what you say - I really appreciate the intelligent responses without the name calling or belittling of others who have a different view.
    That is why I mostly never have issues with Mick as although he and I come at things from differing views we can debate them civilly.
    TREBOR
    1st Jul 2018
    1:52am
    I'm not always right, BM - but I sure sound like it. I call that the Corporal's Disease - the need to always appear to be on top of the situation... hoist on my own petard.

    I can name call with the best of them when it suits - but not when the discussion is fair and reasonable, and I agree about Mick.

    I'm very much in the middle politically and vote for no major party, including One Nation. They need to prove themselves before I'll vote for them.
    TREBOR
    1st Jul 2018
    1:56am
    Great phrase I picked up today:-

    Religion is a business - faith is free.

    While I do not subscribe to a single godhead theory, but rather view the world as a sphere in which I operate and of which I am part, I don't find much disagreement with genuine holders of religious faith, for the simple reason that all well founded faiths are based on simple humanitarian principles.
    Steff
    28th Jun 2018
    1:01pm
    Vote Labor Greens in on the next election and we'll see where your lefty utopia goes from there.Tens of thousands of illegal Immigrants and a severe curtailing of freedom of speech is guaranteed
    Old Geezer
    28th Jun 2018
    1:31pm
    Not to mention poorer workers, poorer companies and poor self funded retirees which leads to a recession as people stop spending.
    maelcolium
    28th Jun 2018
    1:52pm
    Poor OG - the truth is revealed but he (or she) denies the evidence. Must be one of those flat earth folks.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    1:53pm
    Well said Steff, so so true.
    Old Geezer
    28th Jun 2018
    2:01pm
    From some of the comments I read here I believe those people live under mushrooms and get fed BS.

    Had a good laugh today as I had a Combie Ute try to cut me off from the left. Looked over and saw that a dog was driving and there was a coffin on the back ute tray.

    After that it takes all sorts to make this world as crazy as it is I guess.
    KSS
    28th Jun 2018
    3:16pm
    We already have the 'curtailing of free speech' Steph. More's the pity. Just look at the invective levelled on this forum at those who disagree with left and watermelon views.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:24pm
    All the normal trolls falling in.

    Vote coalition and kiss your freedom goodbye folks. All average workers will get is part time jobs, zero job security, higher taxes and loss of their personal freedom as this lot turn us into a controlled dictatorship where striking becomes illegal (already under way) and rights stripped away.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    4:30pm
    You didn't mention Hitler's name today yet MICK, what's wrong?
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    4:56pm
    Pardon me, roy - is Mick the cat that chewed your Lib views?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:37pm
    I'm no pussy TREBOR. Chuckle....
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:21pm
    I happily refer to Hitler since I am more than aware I can best any of them in argument here... peaceful argument on facts, that is. It's the spider inviting the fly to come into his parlour for lunch.
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:17am
    Yes, OG - as above - 91% of the people simply have no idea and are as cattle in the fields.... to be lead to the slaughter at whim, as good vassals of the State.
    4b2
    28th Jun 2018
    1:33pm
    I guess this won’t be believed by the Government. They can’t stand feedback criticizing their performance or think bubbles. They only believe the Murdoch press and 2GB.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:25pm
    This lot believe they are born to rule. I remember Turnbull after the election when he did not get his way. His response? To attack voters for not having done what he told them to.
    Eddy
    28th Jun 2018
    2:29pm
    One thing I have noticed over the years, when the ABC runs a story that may be considered 'critical' of the Labor (sic) Party side of politics they right is silent, but a story critical of the Liberal Party draws howls of protest and calls for the ABC to be muzzled.
    I am fearful that the recent Liberal Party motion to 'privatise' the ABC was a ploy by the current government to see which way the wind was blowing. I surmise that the government would like to privatise the ABC, sell it for a billion dollars or so (probably to News Ltd), retire government debt, create a budget surplus then claim they are superior economic managers. I suggest the current government can calculate the price of everything but knows the value of nothing.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:31pm
    Good to see you are not in the coalition camp Eddy and a balanced comment.
    From my perspective you need to look at the form since 2010. That has been all one way.
    With regard to the ABC this lot talked about selling it off. Murdoch would have been the likely buyer. This lot then put in an ex Murdoch CEO. That says to me Murdoch would buy down the track. Next thing this lot cut funding TWICE to weaken the ABC...and presumably then justify selling it to the Murdoch camp because he could fix it.
    It all seems to point to a deliberate plot to kill of dissent for the right. If this lot tries it on I will be joining many of my fellow decent Australians to protest on the streets, which will likely be met with the army being used if the latest anti terrorism legislation and what is in it is anything to go by.
    Australians need to look at the past 7 years and see what this lot have tried on and then vote for a party which does not seek to enslave us all.
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    5:29pm
    It was not a ploy - it was the young liberals expressing a view -I emphasis young and there are as many - no more - than young labor -
    Of course the liberal party are better economic managers and have shown it to be so ever since federation.
    The only folk who know the value of nothing are green and left wing labor voters - note I exclude rich wing and centre right labor voters as they have shown themselves to be balanced
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:39pm
    Come on bob. You have to be kidding?
    The country is full of people who are voting puppets who have no idea what they are supporting. Neither left or right. Just stupid folk happy to enslave themselves in the belief 'somebody' will fix it.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:10pm
    Yes - Young Liberals are not known for their knowledge, their life experience, or their intellect, let alone their native intelligence.... you can teach monkeys to fly .......

    Better economic managers? Only at the cost of the economy over the long term.....
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:33pm
    Actually, no economic management ability of any kind TREOR.
    All this lot can ever do is waste money in huge quantities, push workers into poverty and then sack them and cry blue murder when Labor makes a comment about the mismanagement of the nation.
    And you wonder why 'The Lucky Country' is in ruins and becoming a poverty trap for its citizens.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    9:56pm
    Yes Mick, this government crows about so many jobs being created. They forget to say that most of these people are in jobs not full employed. Current workers wages are not rising yet fat cats are by outstanding amounts.

    What is their definition of growth, yep for the top end.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    10:16pm
    Wstaton and around the waist.
    Placido
    28th Jun 2018
    2:40pm
    In Raphael's opinion anybody who disagrees with him is a "Leftie"
    KSS
    28th Jun 2018
    3:17pm
    And anyone who disagrees with Mick is a right wing troll!
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:34pm
    Actually NO KSS.
    Make an HONEST and compelling argument based on facts and I may disagree but that's all. Run blatant lies and propaganda and I'll put the brand to you. Your choice.
    For the millionth time I do not vote for either side of politics...although on this occasion I may need to change that because I believe in freedom and democracy and neither of these virtues are in this government's handbook.
    Placido
    28th Jun 2018
    2:41pm
    Looks like "Roy" is a"TROLL" by his own definition
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    3:39pm
    I put my hand up Placido, but I'm not paid by the LNP.

    I'm just trying to complete with that very very childish man MICK who calls everybody who doesn't agree with him a troll and a Government agent. He really is a very nasty piece of work but he is entitled to have his say but he is a cracked record. When he brought Hitler's name into the game the other day, at 12.41pm on the 25th of June that really is the pits. he should know better than that, a world traveller like him.
    I will keep reminding him and everybody ad infinitum.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:36pm
    roy - have a discussion with FACTS rather than propaganda and I'll have a very pleasant discussion with you.
    Run dishonest lies and deceit and I'll brand you.
    Sorry...one or the other. Sadly you picked.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:00pm
    Is there a point to your discussion, roy? Or are merely being entertained by vitriol - personal vitriol?

    Hitler was a fine example of a National Socialist, but not of a true national socialist, as Trump portrays himself to be in one of his 'skins'....

    Now don't be like Hitler and attack anyone you disagree with or don't like... look what that did to my wider extended families in Germany..
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    5:56pm
    Trebor,I have never mentioned Hitler, thank you. I am pointing out the posting of MICK, who compared employees of Centre Link to Hitler at 12.41pm on the 25th of June, just a few days ago.
    I will keep reminding him ad infinitum
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:24pm
    But you refer to Hitler over and over in that context, roy - once is enough.... repeating the same mistake won't make it work next time around...

    There are many parallels between thought and action of certain elements in this nation with Fascism/Stalinism and all the other vastly destructive of the individual -Isms.

    About thirty years ago now I had the privilege during discussion of a Digger saying that he was fed up with -isms. Never a truer word spoken.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    6:49pm
    Trebor, I shall still keep reminding MICK of his dreadful posting at 12.41pm on the 25th of June. Read it and let me know your take on it.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:11pm
    I think he heard you....

    Meanwhile the ABC is more trusted than the slum news, according to a survey...
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:35pm
    Ha, ha, ha. You must be pretty frustrated at being on thin ice and nowhere to go troll man roy. Try it on. It won't stick because unlike your government I do not support the rape of the public and the police state your lot is fostering.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    9:57pm
    I'm feeling pretty good troll man MICK, have you brought Hitler into your posts lately?
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    9:59pm
    How much do you get paid per post MICK?
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:20am
    I think I'll circulate the major parties and see if I can land a gig as a commentator on public media... I could do with a few extra dollars.
    RayL
    28th Jun 2018
    2:51pm
    I try to keep across most news sources that I can and find the result of this survey surprising.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:12pm
    OH? (said Dr Frank N Furter)...
    JoJo
    28th Jun 2018
    3:25pm
    I love and trust the ABC and SBS. Any errors and changes they immediately let listeners and viewers know. Sbs is also very careful and trustworthy.
    I do not use social media myself, but am sick and tired of people quoting inaccurate or even "fake" news as if it is correct.
    Thankyou to all the ABC staff for your careful reporting.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:41pm
    The ABC rarely promotes 'fake news'. The mainstream media does it all the time and especially during an election campaign.
    Fake is a synonym for dishonest.
    HarrysOpinion
    28th Jun 2018
    3:43pm
    You can trust both ABC and SBS to be biased.
    You can trust all media News to create sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.
    You can trust ABC and SBS to push a political agenda.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:41pm
    So you trust 7 and 9? Serious?
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:25pm
    9 puts on the NRL three times a weekend and 7 does the AFL if you're interested, 10 does the Wallabies being beaten by Ireland.... (sobs)...

    They have their merits...
    HarrysOpinion
    28th Jun 2018
    6:34pm
    Nah, Mick...you're way of beam because you didn't ask me if I watch 7 or 9, let alone 10. But, I do trust Family Feud on 11 to give me few moments of good belly laugh. Not even Seinfeld can do that!
    You can push Socialism in a Democracy only so far Mick.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:16pm
    All viable societies are a mix of capitalism and socialism - Australia's been that way since Federation and Universal Suffrage.

    The problems always arise when one or the other of the extreme sides of the spectrum - Capitalism Rampant Upon a Field Of Oppressed Workers - or - Socialism Rampant Upon A Field Of Executed Bosses - gets to run the show.

    The first is clearly the LNP agenda - the second is nowhere in sight..... Shorten's Mob are stalling and promising to undo negative legislations and regulations etc.

    We'll wait for the pudding to see how it tastes, methinks.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:36pm
    HS - all I ever push is fairness and decency. Tell me when it was ever not so.
    shirboy
    28th Jun 2018
    3:46pm
    I am a rebellious independent thinker & I like the ABC
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:44pm
    Sort of how I operate too. I know fake news when I hear and see it. The ABC offers both sides the chance to comment. The commercial big end of town media grooms and promotes one side only and gives the other side substandard, short and low grade coverage. That is political grooming.
    cupoftea
    28th Jun 2018
    3:53pm
    I have listened and watched the ABC for over 45yrs I find it lest bias then the free to air and of coarse the Foxtel, sky you want bias watch sky news ie Speers,Credlin,Bolt you can see who pays there wages so why we have got the ABC we can actually believe what we hear and see not what the moguls who want the ABC so they can Dictate what they want us to know and we know who has voted to sell it, bring on an ELECTION
    Anonymous
    28th Jun 2018
    4:27pm
    Dreamer, you have missed the point entirely. Yes Bolt and Credlin are right wing commentators - you know that even before you turn on your TV set. But the ABC is supposedly impartial, paid by all the tax payers. Tell me that Q & A isn't the most politically biased program ever presented on Australian television! Tell me they don't hand pick their audience to reflect the view (the politically correct view), that only ABC staffers find 'comfortable.' Why are there so many obviously Gay presenters/reporters on the ABC? The LGBTQXYZ community supposedly is less than 10% of the population, but would appear to have up to 25% representation on air at Your ABC. Why is this so? I don't find this continued push by the ABC of politically correct thinking in any shape or form 'believable' and I resent my tax dollars be spent to push such crap agenda - such as all Islam good, and everybody opposed to more boat people arriving - bad! Just pathetic!
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:39pm
    dreamer - when you watch and listen to enough media you get to know who are lying and who are having a discussion based on the truth. There is a reason the ABC is trusted.

    Big Al - I might agree the ABC pushed the homosexual debate. So did all of the other media outlets. It was horrid.
    The thing with the ABC is that IT GOES AFTER BOTHER SIDES OF POLITICS. You omitted to mention that but this is WHY the government seeks to close it down. Not kosher to be made accountable is it? It is what it is. Sorry.
    arbee
    28th Jun 2018
    3:59pm
    The ABC is just like the majority of respondents to this left wing publication, that far to the left that they wouldn't even know if they had a right hand. Interesting comment on one of the later pm shows that was discussing the ABC on Fox the other night when they had a couple of pollies from each of the major parties on, and where the labour guy said, I sometimes even cringe when some of the comments are so biased to the left of politics. People doing this survey either went to the labour party and got a whole list of labour voters to phone up or stood outside of Q & A for a few weeks and asked people to vote, knowing full well that the audience would be mainly all of the looney tunes who generally go to these shows.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:42pm
    Bla bla bla bla.
    You are one sick puppy arbee. What you accuse Labor of is what your employer routinely does. You posting and others posting the same sort of crap as well is changing the subject with irrelevant nonsense when anybody cuts close to the quick is obvious. Your comments are dismissed by all other than your fellow workers.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:04pm
    Oh I dunno - I find that most people here are somewhere in the middle of 'political labeling', and many have at least one foot firmly planted in reality as it now stands.

    I doubt that hating on the LNP is 'leftist' in seclusion, nor is hating on Labor 'rightist' in seclusion - not sure about the Water Melons, though...
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:46pm
    There is a reason why one might hate the LNP TREBOR. Its their DNA and attempts to subvert the citizens of our country and create a monoculture of the mega wealthy and dirt poor. I cannot condone this.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:27pm
    I'm with you there,Mick - just saying that hating on a certain party doesn't automatically make one of the extreme opposite political views.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    10:14pm
    from what I know about surveys like this is that people are randomly phoned and asked there opinion. Not as Arbee insinuates (of Course) Apart from this Q&A state what percentage of each audience preferences are before they start. I hardly think that anyone trying to solicit voting would know what the peoples preferences were.
    Jim
    28th Jun 2018
    4:26pm
    The minute I seen this topic I wondered how quickly it would dissolve into a slanging match between the left and the right, the topic was about trust in the media, I was quite surprised by some of the figures, only 47% distrust social media, I would have thought something like 97% would be more accurate and that in my opinion would be about the same for most media outlets, the ABC are probably the least biased of all the media and tend to be against whoever is in government, as for some of the other comments from the dedicated contributors on this forum who quite clearly have an agenda aligned to their political affiliations, do you really think you are fooling anyone other than yourselves, try sticking to the topic, or is that too much to hope for!
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:43pm
    Sorry if I partake but I'll bite when the paid right wing posters run lies and deceit. Have a discussion and I'll behave myself.
    Jim
    28th Jun 2018
    5:32pm
    I have checked my post and I don't see where I have mentioned anyone or any side of politics, the article was about trust in the media that is what I was referring to, but it seems that some on this site are only interested in perseived political mileage instead of discussion around the article, anyone who is a regular contributor to this site are well aware of who supports which side of politics, no matter what their protestations to the contray.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:47pm
    Despite what you will read I SUPPORT NEITHER SIDE. Never have.
    Having said that I have no choice in the next election as it would be morally wrong of me to ignore the impending dictatorship which is slowly being engineered by the current crop of misfits.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:30pm
    Yes, Jim - we are now lead to believe that the ABC is filled with Labor people when the opposite is true - especially since Tony's Advent to Power, where the top brass were replaced with subservient LNP stooges.

    It's like the assumption that anyone in the performing arts is gay etc... never happen. I performed in a play once and got a review in a gay newspaper for a 'sensitive performance' - never been gay in my life.....

    Point is you don;t have to be of a certain persuasion to hold fair and reasonable views, or to base your views on facts and realities.
    Tarzan
    28th Jun 2018
    4:30pm
    The A.B.C is run by lefties for lefties. news that supports the right is not even reported or mis reported. The shrinking audience of the ABC is proof that people are turning off and those who are left watching or listening have been rusted on for decades, open your eyes folks
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    4:44pm
    The next one on the list. Geez the government must be worried to put so many of you online today.
    roy
    28th Jun 2018
    5:51pm
    The next one on the list.Geez Bill Shorten et al must be worried to put so many of you on line today.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:17pm
    Most here of the 'left' (non)side are here every day, roy..... what about you?
    Rae
    29th Jun 2018
    9:59am
    At least on Netflix you can avoid news completely and those current affairs where they choose what is current and totally ignore anything really controversial as they beat up divisive topics that only really interest a minority.

    I can barely figure out which side has done me more harm. It's actually heading towards Labor because they vote as a block with the LNP on most things that have caused me angst.

    I don't trust either Party and I don't trust the media.
    The IPA is running the Public Service these days anyway.

    Too much like a team sport for the masses while they sell the country out from under us and legislate to prevent any action by us when it eventually goes pear shaped.

    I'm considering a revenge vote for the LNP so they get to show finally how useless they are in facing their own consequences.
    BillieBoy
    29th Jun 2018
    1:06pm
    Tarzan, are you saying you want blatantly right views instead of unbiased reporting?
    The ABC is unbiased. Use fact check when you doubt it!
    Anonymous
    29th Jun 2018
    7:47pm
    Shorten has turned today - Albo is breathing down his neck and then Turnbull has some worries!
    DaveL
    28th Jun 2018
    4:57pm
    Fairfax falls 3rd in media trust. Unfortunately their AFR editorials are full of disrespect & bias. The SMH is has a good balance. The commercial tv stations are rubbish.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    5:08pm
    Yes the SMH is balanced all right - just yesterday they said that 20,000 businesses would cop a $20 billion hike in taxes if they weren't given a tax cut..

    HUH? How do you get a 'hike' from not getting a cut? The same lot argue that when worker organisation say they've taken an income hit from not getting any rises - it's a lack of a rise and not a hit.

    Read between the lines.

    On top of that the august body titled the Business Council of Australia - with 150 members - said it was going to roon us all! Fully a third of their members pay no tax on their taxable income, a third pay some tax, and only a third pay full tax on TAXABLE INCOME.

    Where do they get any right to even comment, let alone being regarded as a power in the land of journalism (only)?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:50pm
    Good one TREBOR. I found it totally amazing that the main media culprits ran this as 'A TAX INCREASE' when it was really about not wearing what the current lot has tried on.
    Yeah, the SMH is not really middle of the road. They NEVER publish anything other than right wing 'Letters'. Try and get one in and you'll hit the brick wall.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    10:21pm
    yes I was wondering that Trebor when I watched Morrison saying the same thing on TV (On the ABC by the way)

    I hope people are smarter than that to be taken in.
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:32am
    Morrison is a perfect lackey for his party and its affiliations - and one clear indicator to me that what Mick says is true about who actually runs that party.
    Rod63
    28th Jun 2018
    5:20pm
    5000 is a huge sample size. This verifies what other surveys have shown - that the ABC is NOT seen as biased by the vast majority. Only 9% distrust the ABC, so clearly most right-leaning people also trust it. I am not surprised, really.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:52pm
    5000 is by no means huge when you compare it to the entire population but results should be starting to firm up. Probably 1 standard deviation anyway.
    Quite obvious from the right wing posts above that they cannot tolerate any media outlet which offers both sides a fair comment. The ABC does....and it goes after both sides.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:35pm
    Well it is a survey of a sample, with a probability of error of probably around 1% or so. That's the basis on which surveys function.

    I used to work for the ABS before it became just another jobs for the girls/ethnics etc nonsense.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:14pm
    That's 2% probability is it not?
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    7:19pm
    Usually between 1 and 2% - which is why I said around 1% - me bad.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    5:23pm
    The ABC is not to be trusted. Biased at all levels to the left. I trust Breitbart and RT news who report on real news that you will not find in any MSM outlets. Yes I do read MSM news but it is very lightweight on important issues and avoids topics that may upset certain groups.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    10:03pm
    Whenever I see that Breitbart - I reach for my Simpsons DVDs... that's how much Breitbart means to me...

    "Where are you from, son?"

    "Breitbart, Nebraska, sir!"

    "Never heard of it."
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    10:15pm
    TREBOR enjoy your simpsons while you can. I prefer Breitbart and RT News. More and more people throughout the western world have come to the conclusion that their own media, many of which are Government controlled no longer provide an honest aprreciation of National or International affairs. This void is currently being filled by the 2 aforementioned prestigious organisations. As I said I do read articles from the MSM media, but most have capitulated and follow the mantra of their leaders.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    10:26pm
    I never heard of him or his news until the Trump saga and I watch and listen to a lot of world news.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    11:25pm
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/28/britains-exploding-population-topped-66-million-2017/

    WStaton read this article from Breitbart especially the comments section. I cannot find any reference to this in any MSM media outlet in the UK. Breitbart is trustworthy and is open to public comments on all articles. Show me one media outlet here that allows that. We are gradually being shafted and our right to open debate being threatened more each day. If you have not already done so read 1984 and animal farm, there are many similarities with the current politcial sphere in which we now live.
    TREBOR
    1st Jul 2018
    2:05am
    When the Great Famine hits, following the demise of petroleum and of the global economy as a result, small island nations such as Britain which rely massively on imports to eat, will become what someone called Gallipoli - one long grave.

    It's a terrible thought.... but remember the Irish Potato Famines that devastated the population there..... entire villages were empty and starving stick figures wandered the land seeking sustenance. Meantime Britain across the water blithely ignored this terrible blight for over two years, and thus - should Britain become the recipient of the same following The Great Crash - it will be seen by some as a form of Universal Justice.

    Good night and God Bless from 'Around The World With Trebor' ... the home of sweeping commentary on any issue.
    srs21
    28th Jun 2018
    5:25pm
    Tsk tsk..... poor Big Al and Rafael....the left isn’t so bad.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    5:34pm
    srs21. It is the dregs of society who given the chance will enslave us all. Capitalism, although it may have its faults ,is the best system where for those who are prepared to put in the hard yards will be rewarded for their efforts. That is a choice we all have, which you will not find under socialism.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    5:57pm
    not so niemakawa.

    From Wikpedia: "Breitbart News Network (known commonly as Breitbart News, Breitbart or Breitbart.com) is a far-right[6][7] syndicated American news"

    You appear to be advocating our cancer ridden our government mate. Have I get this right? Or have you left?
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    6:17pm
    MICK why do you call them far-right? I do ot understand!! Give examples if you can. I trust their reporting and as I stated in another comment Breitbart and RT News cover topics that the MSM recoil from doing so for fear of letting the truth be known. I am not right or left but do believe that capitalism offers the best opportunity for everyone to progress in life. I certainly will not be voting for LIB/LAB at the next federal election. I am following the Australian Conservatives at the moment and subscribe to their weekly articles. A viable alternative for the futrue governance of Australia. Their support base is growing and I expect the AC to gain some senate seats at the next GE. Australi Liberal Alliance is another party that is gaining strength. Australia and Australians must be put first above all else. President Trump is proving that in America.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:17pm
    Nothing to do with me niemakawa. I looked it up as I did not know anything about this media outlet. Far right wing was what I saw. On a couple of websites.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    9:36pm
    MICK, I was rather surprised and disappointed by your reply to my comment. Out of character for you as you would surely research before giving such a feeble answer. You of all people taking what you read at face value!! Maybe you are having an off day, we all have them. Cheers.
    Wstaton
    28th Jun 2018
    10:32pm
    WOW! they dregs of society. Hello Australia you are the home of almost 50% of the dregs of society.

    You have a fundamental belief and becuase of that you are the dregs.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    10:38pm
    Wstaton. Not all Labor supporters are left but vote for that party out of habit. Most voters regardless of their preference are that way inclined and prefer to remain with the status quo. The dregs to which I refer are those who undermine democracy at every opportunity. These people reside in both camps Lab/Lib.
    TREBOR
    29th Jun 2018
    11:34am
    The Enemy Within - Fifth Columnists, but for whom?
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2018
    7:35pm
    TREBOR. For the white people, the liberal elite hate them. You may have head of the NWO , the Kalegri plan. They both seem very very keen on the replacement programme. Conspiracy theories? No I do not believe they are. Australia should never have allowed multiculturalism to take root. The damage it is causing is evident for all to see, provided one's head is not buried in the sand. I have family and friends in the UK, Germany and Italy and they are,as are many of their fellow citizens are, extremely concerned about their future and for that of their children. Their Governments are not listening and despite the recent backlash against the EU commissars in some member countries they carry on as usual. It is only a matter of time before the lid blows. Same in Australia I sense.
    TREBOR
    1st Jul 2018
    2:08am
    How do such people expect to survive without a viable population to sustain the economy and thus the lifestyle of the 'rulers'? Do they imagine that total control over the individual will result in outstanding initiative and production?

    No 'tame' society has worked yet.... doesn't fit the human psyche.
    TREBOR
    1st Jul 2018
    2:11am
    History shows us that if you oppress and depress a society, the result is a criminal and otherwise anti-government Underworld, and a small core of serious Resistance people, who most often are labeled as criminals.

    The end result has always been the overthrow of any government that seeks total control over the individual. It just doesn't work, and yet you see it day after day here in Democracyland governed by small special interest groups.

    Stoopid is as stoopid does, as they allus say down in Green Bow.
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    9:01am
    niemakawa: Democracy? You won't find many MPs who seek to destroy democracy in the Labor ranks. Certainly none that I have seen and I'd like to know WHO is this is the case.
    Have a think about the coalition policies and what they do/have done:

    1. hidden the pursuits of the mega rich, including the PM.
    2. ignored offshore tax shelters for the mega rich. The PM has one.
    3. refuse changing the laws to collect rightful taxes from multinationals.
    4. brought in laws to track citizens.
    5. made it illegal to strike without a permit or if it will harm a crooked business.
    6. chomping at the bit to get the free trade agreement through.....where corporations are allowed to sue the government.
    7. attempting to introduce laws to prevent citizens speaking against government.
    8. introduced new anti-terrorism laws....where they can use the army to quash civil protests.

    Tell me this government is not slowly setting up a rich man's dictatorship.
    People need to vote for ANY, and I do mean ANY, candidate who is not a coalition candidate and whose preferences do not flow to a coalition candidate. The only way to retain democracy!
    floss
    28th Jun 2018
    6:20pm
    ABC. for me , never read the Telegraph just a mouth piece for the Murdock clan. Country people the back bone of Australia love and depend on the ABC.Raphael you are a nasty piece of work bet you hate Father Christmas.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    6:23pm
    Many Father Christmas haters in Australia. Target them, you know who they are.
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:18pm
    Good post floss.
    floss
    28th Jun 2018
    6:25pm
    Love your work Mick .
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:19pm
    Driving the government trolls nuts but if nothing else readers can read their propaganda and work it out for themselves. Cheers.
    Dianne
    28th Jun 2018
    6:28pm
    ABC unbiased, impartial???? Most of my friends along with myself would strongly disagree.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    6:37pm
    Is that as big a sample as 5111?
    MICK
    28th Jun 2018
    7:21pm
    Followers of Bolt and his disciples? Maybe you believe 7 and 9 News is factual?
    Who are your friends? Sorry.
    Steff
    28th Jun 2018
    8:24pm
    The western mainsream media has been all but completely taken over by the Marxists or bought out by George Soros who has dedicated 18 billion of hls own money to undermine western civilization. The Australian parliament is no longer an effective organization as this country is now wholly dictated to by minority groups.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    9:47pm
    Spot on. Soros is a globaist as are most of the leaders of Western Nations. They are continually harrassing white people and protecting the so-called rights of minority groups. Not only do these groups have the support of Governments they are also preventing those that disagree with them to have an opposite view. Anyone that does is usually called out as , racist, fascist, bigot and anything else they deem appropriate in disarming the opposition. Governments even give credence to them and in many countries uncluding Australia to diasgree with their mantra is now considered as a hate crime. Long live Tommy Robinson. He must be released.

    This brings me back to the words minority and globalism. I find it strange that these globalists knowing full well that the white population represents only 8% of the global population. So using their analogy white people should be given protected status as it is clearly a minority group.
    TREBOR
    28th Jun 2018
    10:31pm
    Don't forget misogynist, Islamophobe, homophobe - the usual fare for dealing with any who disagree is to attach to them a nasty label, as if any and all issues around the groups pushing their agenda, to which some may disagree and say so openly, is somehow the fault of those opponents.

    It's an ingenious manifestation of the victim methodology, and was perfected by your feminist lobby, and is now SOP for any whining group that has a series of demands to make upon n unsuspecting society.

    That includes business groups as well - look at how they whine over paying taxes and label anyone who opposes them as 'communists' and 'lefties' and such.

    That is the level to which discussion of issues that affect billions of people has descended - the moment anyone disagrees with your demand, just throw a filthy label at them and throw mud at them until the gullible public swallows it.
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2018
    12:12am
    TREBOR, it is quite obvious to those with intelligence that those who use such words are themselves unintelligent and do not have the ability to think or talk rationally. Bullies is a term that is best used to describe those people. I have never and never will accept multiculturalism ( do not confuse with a multi-racial society). It is a pox on society but one favoured so much by the Liberal elite throughout the Western world. You have to question why? I wil leave you to come to your own conclusions on that.
    SKRAPI
    28th Jun 2018
    9:10pm
    Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Diversity of thinking ????? That restaurant owner was practicing what the right R always accused of ...,,, Bias & tunnel vision . Ho Hum Boring bloody obvious ABC.
    niemakawa
    28th Jun 2018
    9:51pm
    It is more like perversity than diversity. So many employers these days harping on about diversity in their workplace. I am not quite sure what they mean, but it seems that certain groups are given priority when applying for a job. Merit is pushed aside and the quota system kicks in.
    Franky
    29th Jun 2018
    10:09am
    Of the tv and radio segment, yes. But for a balanced.view of world affairs I trust sbs more. As for internet there are many choices. I like the guardian, RT and asiatimes.
    maxchugg
    29th Jun 2018
    10:47am
    I used to watch the ABC a lot. But then I began to watch Q@A and rapidly became fed up with seeing one person with what is now called conservative views being savaged by a panel of radicals, a hostile audience and a totally biased moderator. The "Insiders" program on Sunday mornings is little better.
    Our local newspaper spouts the views of the proprietors and is ever ready to drag Australia's reputation down into the mud, so we don't need the ABC to do an even better job at a cost of over $1 billion a year. Sell the ABC off and use the savings to raise pensions, moving pensioners a little closer to the poverty line.
    Kathleen
    29th Jun 2018
    12:23pm
    QandA is varied from week to week in both topics and panel so how on earth can you label it radical! The audience often includes students who are just learning and are impressive in their ability to make mature contributions. This last Monday was about disability and the audience was made up largely of disabled people and their families. The panel included people who were themselves disabled or involved in providing some kind of help for the NDIS. We found out that the NDIS is underfunded. Nearly two billion has been taken from the NDIS in the last two years.
    The week before was especially good as it was not political but rather philosophical and I enjoyed the intelligent and thought provoking discussions.
    Insiders on a Sunday morning attacks both sides of politics so not sure what your problem is there. Humour happens with the visual and cartoon segment. Some clever skits using shows like Star Wars lighten the tone of the program. It is okay not to agree with all the comments but they do vary and not just lean one way.
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2018
    1:51pm
    Kathleen. The NDIS another scam.
    Kathleen
    30th Jun 2018
    10:29am
    Cory Bernadi is on QandA on Monday night. I am sure he is to your liking! There is also a Liberal and one ALP. Add a comedian and an editor so that sounds pretty interesting to me. Hopefully, the comedian will will send up any rubbish!
    niemakawa
    30th Jun 2018
    3:03pm
    Kathleen. You would do well to subscribe to Cory Bernadi's weekly articles. Have them delivered direct to your in-box. What do you have to lose?
    TREBOR
    1st Jul 2018
    2:14am
    Well Q & A always tell you who is on the panel and what the audience mix is .......
    maxchugg
    29th Jun 2018
    11:03am
    Accidentally posted in the wrong place, so try again:

    People who have conservative views are now labelled as right wing by Mick and others. The hostility is difficult to understand when these so-called right wingers want to retain traditional values such as freedom of speech, equality under the law, and so on.

    From the other side we see such things as academics who refuse to toe the radical left wing line of the universities losing their jobs, the so-called "safe schools" program which has everything to do with indoctrination and nothing to do with safety, the Catholic Church hauled before a court for distributing leaflets to presumably Catholic parents explaining their church's views of marriage - and no, Mick, I'm not Catholic.

    Traditional views are permitted now one day a year, Anzac Day when all the hypocrites gather to praise the servicemen who died to protect the very values that are now being trampled in the dust.
    maxchugg
    29th Jun 2018
    11:02am
    remove People who have conservative views are now labelled as right wing by Mick and others. The hostility is difficult to understand when these so-called right wingers want to retain traditional values such as freedom of speech, equality under the law, and so on.

    From the other side we see such things as academics who refuse to toe the radical left wing line of the universities losing their jobs, the so-called "safe schools" program which has everything to do with indoctrination and nothing to do with safety, the Catholic Church hauled before a court for distributing leaflets to presumably Catholic parents explaining their church's views of marriage - and no, Mick, I'm not Catholic.

    Traditional views are permitted now one day a year, Anzac Day when all the hypocrites gather to praise the servicemen who died to protect the very values that are now being trampled in the dust.
    Kathleen
    29th Jun 2018
    12:43pm
    Traditional can be a loaded word and open to interpretation.
    Values is another one.
    Labelling left and right is another loaded and misleading terminology.
    People should always have choices and vary in their views from one topic to another. For example, some people think private health funds should be abolished whilst others like to be in charge of their medical choices. If you take a stance on one side there it does not mean that you will be consistent in other subjects. So, is abandoning private health funds left or right in your estimation?
    Another topic that could attract a label is the environment. Is it left to believe action on climate change is needed? I don’t believe so.
    Maybe allow people to be flexible in their views from one subject to another without being labelled.
    niemakawa
    29th Jun 2018
    7:50pm
    Spot on. It's odd that the left always demanding the right should show tolerance and acceptance yet the same is not expected of the left as they believe only their views are relevant. I agre with you comment also Kathleen.
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    9:07am
    Maxchugg - a bit unfair mate. I will label trolls as trolls. These are posters who post smear and innuendo with not one shred of real comment or evidence other than promoting their side of politics. These folk are paid for comment, not genuine posters. Read their comments and tell me that their blatant lies are anything else other than right wing propaganda dressed up as an opinion.

    I continually get attacked as being leftist. Maybe I am...but I do not vote for either side of politics. I will however be having to vote Labor in the upcoming election as I cannot see the emerging dictatorship government which craps on the nation daily continue to run. Expect the Murdoch media and big media outlets to do their utmost to get their man back in. If Australians vote in that way then bad times are ahead for all other than the rich and the dictatorship which will continue to develop.

    Call it like you see it Maxchugg but I'll present the facts as they exist. Your choice.....including what we all end up with.

    29th Jun 2018
    12:23pm
    Hey Old Geezer - I can see you're staying out of that stupid debate as well. Better things to do eh? I am going down to the club for lunch!
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    8:45am
    The major right wing media outlets:

    1. False news / fake news.
    2. Bias.
    3. News is sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.
    4. Pushing commercial or political agenda.
    5. Too much advertising.

    Pretty well tells the story. The coalition funded trolls working this website of course will run the "leftist" and "bias" propaganda the same as they are now running the "you can't trust Labor" propaganda when exactly the opposite is the case. YOU CAN'T TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT WHICH IE OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE TOP END OF TOWN FOR ITS SOLE PURPOSES: MORE MONEY.
    Tax cuts anyone? What about offshore tax shelters?
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    8:45am
    The major right wing media outlets:

    1. False news / fake news.
    2. Bias.
    3. News is sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.
    4. Pushing commercial or political agenda.
    5. Too much advertising.

    Pretty well tells the story. The coalition funded trolls working this website of course will run the "leftist" and "bias" propaganda the same as they are now running the "you can't trust Labor" propaganda when exactly the opposite is the case. YOU CAN'T TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT WHICH IE OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE TOP END OF TOWN FOR ITS SOLE PURPOSES: MORE MONEY.
    Tax cuts anyone? What about offshore tax shelters?
    MICK
    2nd Jul 2018
    8:45am
    The major right wing media outlets:

    1. False news / fake news.
    2. Bias.
    3. News is sensationalised / focus on controversial stories.
    4. Pushing commercial or political agenda.
    5. Too much advertising.

    Pretty well tells the story. The coalition funded trolls working this website of course will run the "leftist" and "bias" propaganda the same as they are now running the "you can't trust Labor" propaganda when exactly the opposite is the case. YOU CAN'T TRUST THIS GOVERNMENT WHICH IE OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE TOP END OF TOWN FOR ITS SOLE PURPOSES: MORE MONEY.
    Tax cuts anyone? What about offshore tax shelters?
    Reason
    2nd Jul 2018
    1:26pm
    As th e adage states: there are lies, dam lies and statistics. To claim that the majority of Australians consider the ABC to be "impartial and has a lack of bias" has no reality i the world of people I have contact with. Sadly, the ABC has become a forum for left-wing socalistic proaganda.
    Hoohoo
    2nd Jul 2018
    6:18pm
    Reason, generally speaking, people of like minds stick together, whatever their bias is.
    I would only bother to seek news on TV from the ABC or SBS, as these channels are not stuffed with adverts (hey, I'm here for the news, duh!) & I don't want the last "story" to be of a puppy or kitten saved by firefighters, so that now I can feel good after all the news of rape, murder, theft & stupidity & everything's right with the world, how lovely. Now I can go forth & be aspirational, like a good boy. I consider the commercial channels as tabloid journalism & I simply don't have the time or energy for that rubbish.
    As for online news, it just channels to you the stuff you agree with anyway, as your every move & interest is tracked online.
    Reason, (or should I call you Lack Of Reason?), for you to say "...the ABC has become a forum for left-wing socalistic proaganda", just shows your own bias. It doesn't mean your comment is true or not.
    I think there is a global Fascism taking over the world. We tolerate China's (Communist) entry as a world player in the global financial system, simply because it's making money just like a huge Corporation. Corporations are the new God. They tell Governments what to do now. The rich get richer while the poor get relatively poorer everywhere, except maybe in non-capitalist regimes.
    Meanwhile, the person who scrubs your toilet isn't so lucky. People working in casual jobs yesterday just had their paycheck reduced, due to their penalty rates being cut. Lucky them, now their boss might employ some more poor people who will compete for those extra hours' work, at lower rates. Maybe they can pay peanuts to some migrants on 457 visas for these shitty-paid jobs? Or, the boss might simply pocket the profit, just like many big Corps will if they get tax cuts. Thanks, Malcolm, for bugger all.
    Big brother is now a reality. Freedoms are being contracted in our so-called free society. They tell us it's OK to lose your freedom if it's going to make you safe. Yes, you're free if you're rich & you can pay for justice. But inch by inch, renegade leaders are tinkling at the edges with our hard-fought freedoms. Have you seen The Handmaid's Tale? Of course not! It's on SBS with those other reds under the beds. Fascism is famous for it's charismatic leaders. The German people were hypnotised by Hitler's talk of making Germany great again, making it rich, getting rid of the scum inside & at the borders (he forgot to mention draining the swamp). And Hitler was a Christian.
    Roy R
    1st Sep 2018
    2:18pm
    The ABC unbiased? Only if you're an Aboriginal Australian, homosexual, a member of a minority group, a Labor Party member or a feminist. Anyone they do not like gets nowt.