North Korea nuclear testing condemned

On Tuesday North Korea admitted to detonating a nuclear test at an underground site.

North Korea nuclear testing condemned

On Tuesday North Korea admitted to detonating a nuclear test at an underground site in the country’s northeast, with seismic monitors detecting tremors measuring 5.0 in magnitude.  A statement from the state-run news agency confirming that the nuclear test was carried out using a miniaturised device, has prompted fears that North Korea has developed a nuclear warhead small enough to be fitted to a ballistic missile that has the capacity to reach the United States or Australia.

The international community has been swift in its condemnation of the testing, including North Korea’s main ally China stating their opposition.  All members of the UN Security Council have backed a statement saying that North Korea was in ‘grave violation’ of UN resolutions and highlighted the threat made in January to take ‘significant action’ if new nuclear testing was staged.  Appearing unrepentant, North Korea has stated that the test is merely its first response to hostilities from the United States and testing will continue, especially if sanctions are tightened against it.

Jon Yong Ryong, the first secretary of North Korea's mission in Geneva has said "The US and (its) their followers are sadly mistaken if they miscalculate that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea would accept the entirely unreasonable resolutions against it, and… will never be bound to any resolutions".

Read more at TheAge.com.au.

Opinion: Is China now the West’s greatest ally?

North Korea has once again shown little regard for the UN and the western world by carrying a series of nuclear weapon tests. The defiance by the North Koreans serves as a timely reminder that peace between the north and the more pro-west south of the country has never formally been declared. However, the North Koreans are at pains to include the US in its condemnation of sanctions against the country and have basically threatened a nuclear strike if the US doesn’t take the country’s demands seriously.

What is perhaps different about this round of muscle–flexing by the North Koreans has been the response of its closest and most powerful neighbour. While in the past China may have seemingly turned a blind eye to what the North Koreans were doing, it has this time spoken against its pro-nuclear stance.

The willingness by China to seemingly stand with the US and the UN on this matter will be closely monitored by analysts and will no doubt make North Korea think twice about making a stand against two of the world’s strongest and most powerful nations. However, the unease which is unfolding on the Korean Peninsula is still a cause for concern for many.

Considering that North Korea has ignored UN orders to stop its atomic activity, do you think North Korea is being deliberately provocative by undertaking these nuclear tests? Should we as Australians, be concerned that there may be a real threat of nuclear weapons being used against us as an ally of the US? What more can be done to deter North Korea from undertaking future testing, since the threat of further sanctions and international isolation seem to be falling on deaf ears?





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    Bes
    13th Feb 2013
    12:17pm
    Quote:
    The willingness by China to seemingly stand with the US and the UN on this matter will be closely monitored by analysts and will no doubt make North Korea think twice about making a stand against two of the world’s strongest and most powerful nations. However, the unease which is unfolding on the Korean Peninsula is still a cause for concern for many. Unquote.
    And what if China is using North Korea as a puppet to bring this situation about??
    (Being that Chinese and North Korean pilots served in Vietnam flying Russian aircraft)
    Is China becoming tired of actually BUYING our resources?
    Watching our governments (state and federal) stumbling about in the comedy of parliament and in complete disarray is an insult to their orderly culture and having to deal with these people!
    What of us? Shall we send our mighty Navy in a show of force or defence?
    Oops, can't do that as the Navy is busy with humanitarian ferry work.
    China and North Korea now wait to see what responses will be made by the US.
    Australia would not be in the equation!
    Aloysius
    13th Feb 2013
    12:39pm
    Australia is, unfortunately, one of the world's greatest warmongers. Australia is one of the first to enter any and every fray in a vain attempt to convince the rest of the world that Australia is important and to try and buy American insurance against hostility towards Australia. The USA will always act in its own interest and our strategic position is likey to provide a reason for that support. True friendship cannot be bought. China is achieving its ends through economic means and it does not need a war. I think that China enjoyed North Korea's provocative stance but is now aware that it is becoming dangerous. Hopefully, China will use its influence to restrain the North. It is sad that the North Korean people live in poverty whlist its government spends inordinate sums on its military and keeps its people ignorant of all things outside its borders.
    FrankC
    13th Feb 2013
    3:22pm
    Australia is not the first to enter in to any hostilities between other countries.(That phrase 'one of the first' is so often used, and is totally ungrammatical--there is only one 'first' ) The USA has always tried to be the big policeman of the world, loving every minute of it, whether it causes war or not. Unfortunately, Australia is fast becoming a puppet to US strings, and as Aloysius said, the US will always act in it's own interest- "let the reader use discernment"
    ourjeffie
    13th Feb 2013
    4:13pm
    That phrase "the US will always act in it's own interest" is totally ungrammatical - the apostophe is incorrect. The correct word here is "its", which denotes ownnership, whereas "it's" is an abbreviation for "it is"
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Feb 2013
    4:52pm
    Yes Frank! 'ourjeffie' is right. Very important that you get it right. Give yourself an uppercut man!
    Aloysius
    13th Feb 2013
    6:46pm
    I am another pedant, so thanks. Something is either grammatically correct or it's not grammatically correct. The adjective "totally" is redundant. "One of the first" is an abbreviation commonly used to mean a member of the first group. The USA's role of big policeman is resented widely and Australia is resented as the deputy sheriff that lacks the muscle to back up its rhetoric.
    ourjeffie
    15th Feb 2013
    12:15pm
    I wouldn't call myself a pedant, I just thought this was a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black :)
    talofa
    13th Feb 2013
    4:19pm
    I AM OF A SIMILAR OPINION TO FRANK...THE USA WAS THE FIRST COUNTRY TO MAKE & STORE MORE & MORE ATOMIC WEAPONS & THEY ARE THE LAST COUNTRY TO COMPLAIN
    ABOUT A N Y OTHER COUNTRY TRYING TO DO THE SAME...UNTIL THE USA GETS RID OF ITS
    HUGE WEAPON ARSENAL I CANNOT TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY..& I AM ALSO SAD THAT AUSTRALIA FOLLOWS THE USA LIKE A PUPPY DOG...TALOFA
    Pass the Ductape
    13th Feb 2013
    4:44pm
    This is now the most extremely dangerous situation the free world has ever had to face. Forget Russia and the Cuban crisis. At least the Russians had a conscience.
    Does the free world wait until North Korea continues to develop the potential to annihilate any country it chooses on the pretext that unless it gets what it wants - it will launch its nuclear rockets on some unfortunate country - because that's just what its insane heads of state and its army chiefs are likely to do?
    Should this occur, the USA and every other nuclear power in the free world will have no alternative but to retaliate in kind - and in the hope that they can deliver a massive knockout punch to the North Korean dictator and the North Korean Army - once and for all. One cataclysmic swoop to destroy the whole country along with its poor unfortunate people - hopefully before the rest of us get it! Or...... does the free world pre-empt any action by North Korea of this nature, and strike North Korea first? Perhaps then, North Korea could be re-born.
    Frankly, I’m for this - but it’s easy to say that sitting at home in Australia watching TV. Either way I doubt the North Koran leadership gives any thought to what I, or the world thinks, such is their blinkered approach to life in general. The big question though - is what happens with China? Where would they fit into this equation?
    The heads of state in North Korea don’t give a damn about what happens to its citizens, or the rest of the world for that matter, because like the gutless and insane thinking entities they are, and like other dictatorial regimes like them, should the worst happen, they will have long gone - possibly to some other country whose leader is just as insane as themselves. Remember Libya and Idi Amin?
    Aloysius
    13th Feb 2013
    6:37pm
    Presumably you mean Muammar Gaddafi in Libya and Idi Amin in Uganda who both had unbridled power and despotic tendencies. North Korea is more dangerous as it has greater power to act outside its borders and exhibits intense hatred of Japan, the West and South Korea. A pre-emptive strike on Nth Korea would be treated by the rest of the world as equally bad as anything the North Koreans might do. China must be persuaded to remove the support that North Korea absolutely requires to exercise its mad intentions. It is massively dependent on China for all its basic needs.
    Pass the Ductape
    15th Feb 2013
    1:53pm
    Correct Aloysius - I did mean Gaddafi in Lybia. As you would recall, it was the first country to accept Idi Amin when he scarpered with as much Ugandan booty as he could.
    paddy8888
    13th Feb 2013
    4:46pm
    I'm more concerned about Israel's nuclear capability and its belligerent lebensraum type expansionist policies into occupied areas than I am about North Korea.
    Aloysius
    13th Feb 2013
    6:28pm
    Big difference. Israel certainly over-reacts but its focus is on self-preservation in the face of threats of annihilation from its Arab neighbours. North Korea is run by a person whose sanity raises serious doubts.
    Sylvia
    13th Feb 2013
    9:11pm
    Most of North Koreas' economy comes from other nations ,such as China who give huge amounts of aid to help the North Korean people, people who are brain washed and live in fear, they live on the border line of starvation, most of the revenue raised from the blackmail by this regime goes on developing yet more weapons, so why isn't the UN and the rest of the world putting a stop to this? the UN is toothless and a waste of space and money, surely the whole world, not just the other communist countries should get to gether and stop this insanity before the whole thing is beyond redemption.
    Pass the Ductape
    14th Feb 2013
    8:57am
    Quite right Sylvia - but therein lies the rub doesn't it? The UN consists mainly of nations who adhere to certain principles of freedom and they have the unenvious task of trying to find a solution to a problem which most of us cannot fathom.
    The psyche of the North Korean hierarchy follows a different path to our own and its difficult for us to realise that, what appears normal for them, borders on madness for us. The only thing that will finally bring the North Korean leadership down will be an uprising from within - and China holds the key here. It could act similarly to the United States where the USA has supplied the necessary means for an armed insurrection to occur, as it has done in other instances where the leaders of some countries have been prone to destroy its populace for personal gain - but would it - that's the question? It's not a key that I would envy holding and should this event occur - it’s unlikely to happen any time soon.
    Either way, with North Korea on the doorstep of being able to launch nuclear weapons - we are all in for a torrid time of it and a quick solution to the situation needs to occur; because as you so rightly say - this insanity has to be stopped before the whole thing is beyond redemption.
    Huskie
    13th Feb 2013
    9:19pm
    The USA is the first culture to go from Barbarism to Decadence without a period of Civilisation in between.

    The American way is the right way and the only way. Bullshit!!!

    China believes that it has the "Divine right" conquer and dominate all others and will do so by any means.

    The United States is a country divided, and “a house divided against itself will fall”. How can Obama get much done when he is opposed? In a two party system, if one party says “black” the other will say “white”, simply to oppose, and vice versa. Why cannot they work together? One virtue of the one party state is that it is certainly efficient. Whereas the U.S. government has its hands tied behind its back. No wonder China has an advantage. It is far better to have a multiparty system, such as we have in Australia, with five parties, though with two main ones. But you do not want to go too far, as a country with dozens of parties also becomes ungovernable, as each party seeks its own narrow interests, rather than the interests of the nation.
    PlanB
    14th Feb 2013
    5:16am
    They talk of Global warming etc etc --what with all the nuclear testing --that has happened many many times--for many many years and is still happening--plus all the nuclear reactors-- and the trouble they have caused--plus all this CSG fracking--I don't think the odd cow fart or throwing money at the GW will do a darn thing, Chernobyl and Fukushema are STILL causing world wide radiation.

    What say all of you ?
    Pass the Ductape
    14th Feb 2013
    8:08am
    OK PlanB...But I'm trying to understand what the odd cow fart has to do with trying to get North Korea to enter a world of sanity.
    PlanB
    14th Feb 2013
    5:21am
    BTW China has already started to take over Africa and Islands to the east of Africa

    Yes Huskie America talk of terrorism, while they carry out some of the worst !
    Huskie
    14th Feb 2013
    7:24am
    You missed out the Chinese take over of some of small Pacific Island nations as well.
    Agree America is one of the worlds worst terrorist organisations.
    Pass the Ductape
    14th Feb 2013
    8:13am
    And why Australia is attempting to placate to both sides. IE: Sell land to China to grow crops, whilst they offer the Yanks an area to establish a military base.
    PlanB
    14th Feb 2013
    8:20am
    Yes Ductape makes you wonder where their brain are thats for sure
    PlanB
    14th Feb 2013
    9:21am
    From Ductape
    OK PlanB...But I'm trying to understand what the odd cow fart has to do with trying to get North Korea to enter a world of sanity.

    What I was saying was with all this radiation etc and GSG etc going on how the hell does that compare with a "cow fart" and how the hell does paying a tax stop the damage that these tests etc are doing to the planet
    Pass the Ductape
    14th Feb 2013
    12:29pm
    OK.... Got it now! It's a real worry isn't it?
    Cow farts - Juliar's taxes - and Kim Jong-un (the sexiest man alive). No wonder the UN has no answers - we're all doomed before we start.
    Bes
    14th Feb 2013
    12:39pm
    Rest assured, we shall be in the good, safe, hands of our politicians. Just think back to Mr Chamberlain, the then UK Prime Minister, stepping off the plane after meeting with Hitler. And with a paper in his hands proclaiming, "Peace in Our Time".
    I think the underlying Chinese national anthem is really "IF I ruled the world" and that North Korea will be their excuse to 'intervene' by taking over Taiwan to protect it along with other long lost Chinese islands etc.
    Australia? They will just continue to buy it for now.

    14th Feb 2013
    12:47pm
    Very worrying for the whole world,this latest from North Korea. And because Australia is most certainly not in any position to defend itself, we do need this alliance with the USA and should encourage them to permanently base troops here, a good move, and which is why it is in our interest to make sure it is on their interest to defend any moves against us and they do need a foothold in our area.

    On our own we have no hope of defending our huge mineral deposits and with overpopulation, becoming also important, our capacity to grow food in an approaching world food shortage, which is why foreign governments are buying here to feed their own nations so we have to guard against that too. But North Korea is the subject of course and someone said we should in all likely hood go in and annihilate them, sad for the innocents who do live in fear and are starving most of the time and in war people die.

    This stand-off is dangerous because it could bring on what we all feared during the Cold War - an all out nuclear strike that could bring on the nuclear winter and eventually kill all life on the planet.

    Even one nuclear weapon would of course harm South Korea/China and any drift of fall-out other countries, so maybe if it actually exists, the neutron bomb would do the job leaving infrastructure standing and no fall out etc. I haven't heard of it for a while now but it did once exist so suspect America has it hidden ready for a time like this.

    I am also against any nuclear power stations because it inevitably leads to storage problems of dangerous waste, as well as accidents as we have experienced and as I think global warming is just another plank in the UNs Agenda 21 to shift the wealth of the developed countries to the undeveloped and One World Government.

    I would like us out of the UN and its treaties which are problematic like the one which brings boats and now of course by signing onto Kyoto we are officially signed onto Agenda 21. Google it.
    Aloysius
    14th Feb 2013
    1:25pm
    Agenda 21, One World Government, the Club of Rome, the Illuminati - these are not myths but real dangers. The Greens have signed up to one World Government and would sacrifice our sovereignty. The environmental push is being used to con people into handing over their independence, freedom and assets in the name of these dangers. I agree that the UN has outlived its usefulness andis only listened to by wimps like Australia. If you think this is alarmist, I suggest you do some reseasrch on the matters.
    Taskid
    14th Feb 2013
    3:13pm
    The USA has lost its way according to the site below, perhaps Australia is not far behind.

    "As the 20th-century idols of atheism, humanism and communism have become mainstream and now accepted by most, we are now moving to a contest for the souls and minds of Americans where we now face formidable opponents in godless liberal collectivists, neo-conservative fascists, globalists, New Age religion, Islam and Satanism.

    No longer are we only threatened from without by a group of balding hard-line Communists - we are now threatened from within - by a group of intelligent, well-dressed globalists who are convincing America and the nations of the world that the only way to lasting world peace is the establishment of a ... "New World Order."

    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." - Cicero, 42 B.C" http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/

    Interestingly in addresses to the UN the Vatican has pushed for One World Order, One World financial system and with the move toward embracing other religions, seen by Christians as being false, into a One World Relgion.
    PlanB
    14th Feb 2013
    1:30pm
    One World Government, the Club of Rome, the Illuminati - these are not myths but real dangers.

    +++
    VERY VERY true
    Taskid
    14th Feb 2013
    3:15pm
    It is time for thinking people to awaken from their slumber. Time is running short.
    Tom Tank
    14th Feb 2013
    4:01pm
    Please get a grip. All this nonsense about a pre-emptive strike harkens back to the Cold War of the 1950's. North Korea is a rogue state with idiots running the show but progress is being made. Despite the Korean War still a reality, as only an armistice was signed, South Korea have starting building factories in the North. That is the sort of thing that will lead to peace. China can only lose if there was to be a nuclear conflict as, due to Globalisation, she now dominates World Trade and she would certainly not want to lose that position. While the UN has many problems at least it does give something of an avenue to conduct dialogue and we would be worse off without it.
    One problem with the USA basing troops in Australia, as they are now doing in Darwin, is that historically once they have established such a base they never leave irrespective of the wishes of the government of that country. That makes Australia a target.
    Aloysius
    14th Feb 2013
    5:12pm
    North Korea has made strikes on South Korea quite recently and wants unification only by the South's surrender. We are all agreed that the North is run by "nutters" but the only country it listens to is China. China funds the North and, hence, China with its interest in world trade, might listen to reason and pressure the North into desisting. USA bases in Australia is seen as provocative by China so we will have little influence.
    Tom Tank
    15th Feb 2013
    11:32am
    I believe a parallel can be drawn between the Korean situation and Germany. The attitude of North Korea does have similarities to that of East Germany before reunification. It will be harder in Korea but there seems to be a slightly different attitude compared to the previous dictator.
    I was in South Korea recently, what an impressive place, and visited the DMZ. That is a scary place with a real confrontational aggressiveness but it has been like this since the signing of the Armistice in the early 50's. The North like to occasionally flex their muscles and beat their chest to be provocative but hopefully that will slowly disappear.
    This is a classic situation of the two parties have to sort out their differences between themselves but the South do need to know it has the support of the UN to provide strength to their negotiations.
    Outside countries shouting the odds about pre-emtive strikes does not help anyone and especially not the Koreans.
    arbee75
    15th Feb 2013
    2:15pm
    Hi Tom Tank, the USA did close their large Naval base located at Subic Bay in the Philippines together with the Clark Field USAF base in, I think, the 1990,s

    arbee75
    wally
    15th Feb 2013
    11:46am
    The old saying that the voters, donkey voters and non-voters in democratic societies get the politicians they deserve. Huskie's remarks about America can be seen to demonstrate this, as well as here and elsewhere.
    The strength of dictatorship lies in the fact that no opposition is allowed so that government policies have no local/ internal opposition. Thus, the dictators have free reign to impose their will on their own people as well as on their neighbours, if they have the military might to successfully do so. This is the opposite to the disunity and internal wrangling in democracies, unless their politicians decide to unite in pursuit of a common goal.
    North and South Korea provide an excellent example of the contrast between democracy and dictatorship. I know which of these two countries I'd prefer to call home.
    PS I just wish our politicians would govern wisely for the benefit of all the people, not for the appeasement of noisy minority groups, (as long as the minority groups are not persecuted).
    Taskid
    15th Feb 2013
    12:53pm
    Wally You are right about the contrasrt between South and North Korea. South Korea has in one church/denomination the largest single Christian congregation in the world - 850,000 - services three times a day all week. North Korea has at least 70,000 Christians in concentration camps simply because of their love for Jesus. Shows the difference when atheism becomes the rule.
    Pass the Ductape
    15th Feb 2013
    1:39pm
    He's off again!
    Taskid
    15th Feb 2013
    4:02pm
    Who's "he"????? - did you mean the big "He", the Lord - oh yes He is blessing South Korea I am sure for their faithfulness. Shame Australia seems desirous of becoming more like North Korea, sinking into atheistic hopelessness. Oh well. Our nation will learn the hard way I guess. :0)
    Pass the Ductape
    16th Feb 2013
    8:23am
    Yes - 'he's' definitely off again. Oops - the ' devil' made me say that!
    Taskid
    16th Feb 2013
    9:28am
    ductape I don't know who your mysterious "he" is - like your remarks, figments of your imagination and poor sense of humour.
    Pass the Ductape
    16th Feb 2013
    9:47am
    Works for me Taskid!
    Taskid
    16th Feb 2013
    2:49pm
    ductape Oh well some people are easy pleased I guess. Takes all kinds........................:0)
    Boof
    15th Feb 2013
    4:07pm
    THEY SAY WHEN THERE IS A REACTION ( EARTH-QUAKE ETC) THERE IS ANOTHER, OR OPPOSITE, REACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR "LITTLE PLANET". THE BASTARDS, WILL KEEP ON GOING UNTIL THEY MAKE A CRACK IN THE EARTH'S CRUST, THAT IS IRREPAIRABLE, ONE DAY. WE WILL JUST FLOAT AWAY???
    Taskid
    15th Feb 2013
    4:17pm
    Boof Do you really think that will happen? I think the planet is on borrowed time for sure. But there is hope.
    Pass the Ductape
    16th Feb 2013
    5:18pm
    Hey Drew- are you there? Somebody! I've been trying to edit my profile and upgrade my avatar, but I can't seem to get the edit thingy to work for me. Any clues you'd like to impart? Ta in advance ....... Ductape
    wally
    21st Feb 2013
    3:40pm
    Ground control to Major....


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