No Newstart raise on the way, says Senator Ruston

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Unemployed older Australians who have not yet reached Age Pension age will continue to tough it out indefinitely, should Senator Anne Ruston be taken at her word.

The Minister for Families and Social Services opposes ‘near-universal’ calls to raise paltry Newstart payments, saying increasing the dole will do nothing to fix the country’s problems.

Newstart base rates have hardly been lifted in more than 25 years. Currently, a Newstart recipient lives on just over $40 a day – $604 a fortnight. Single age pensioners can receive up to $933 a fortnight – around $66 a day – which must seem like a Holy Grail for the many over-55s who are out of work.

Suffice to say, many older Australians out of work are living in relative poverty while they wait for more generous Age Pension payments.

This does not seem a primary concern for the minister, who believes that creating jobs and mitigating social issues such as substance abuse and isolation are more important than providing older people with a dignified existence.

“Just constantly spending more money and not getting any better result is not the right thing for us to be doing,” Senator Ruston said yesterday.

“We need to make sure that we investigate every possible way that we can start getting a better result for getting people back into work.

“I think the issue around people who currently find themselves unemployed is much more complex than just the safety net that is provided by the Australian Government’s taxpayer-funded welfare system.

“There’s a lot more that we as a government need to do.”

While her aims may be admirable to a certain extent, it seems the plight of older Australians are largely being ignored. More people – especially renters – are having to work later in life just to put food on the table. Even then, for many, fortnightly income is so low that they’re forced to choose between food and heating or cooling their homes.

An increase to Newstart would certainly help.

Instead, Ms Ruston would appear to be more focused on fixing drug and alcohol addiction than addressing the needs of older people who simply cannot find the employment opportunities the senator says she is trying to provide.

“If somebody has an alcohol addiction, giving them extra money on Newstart is more likely to result in that money being spent in a hotel,” said Senator Ruston.

“Giving more money to somebody who finds themselves in a position of isolation is not going to prevent their isolation.

“We need to come up with more inventive and innovative ways to deal with the barriers people find themselves (facing) in going into the workplace.”

What do you think of the senator’s comments? Should older people on Newstart be considered differently from younger people? Do you think older welfare recipients are being ignored?

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    Of course a flint-faced and -hearted Rightard like her would oppose a raise to Newstart. Her arguments are completely spurious, and contrary to the bipartisan support in the past for raising it. How Australia could have been dumb enough to re-elect the LNP is a mystery.

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      Worst of two bad choices.. nobody’s buying any more, from either ‘side’ of The Tag Team – and they are slow as a glacier in working out how much they are out of touch and are causing the winter of our discontent in high summer…

      We need to kick the bloody lot of over-privileged, overpaid, over-rated, self-serving parasites out – and elect a real government …

      It’s up to you – I’ve been doing my tiny bit for years now – never voting for the Big Boys, and taking every opportunity to shoot holes in their sails over their latest bit of pure nonsense masquerading as governance of this nation for its people first and foremost.

      Is that plain enough?

      Vote 1 -Trebor Party – we ARE The People!!

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      Well mainly we the sensible majority, realiised Shorten & Co were blithering idiots.
      Labor has treated Newstart recipients like leapers and worse, the same as current Gov’t.

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      And how would it be funded?

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      Yes totally agree with Intellego.

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      mogo51: You might have been asleep, but we haven’t had a lot of Labor-run Governments since the low level of Newstart became an issue…

      Sceptic: By making sure these billion dollar offshore companies pay their fair share of taxes.
      Ford – no tax payable last year. Netflix Australia- Tax rate of 0.035 cents in the dollar.
      There are hundreds of companies getting away with this.
      Here’s a link to the top 40, ave a read… https://www.michaelwest.com.au/tax-dodgers/

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      Sceptic we could actually charge these foreign companies tax like we had to pay from our profits from labour. No we didn’t get to deduct everything or there would have been no tax due. Labour needs housing, food, medical care, etc all would be tax deductible if we were taxed like capital.

      Why is work charged tax but business get to keep the profits?

      Besides since 1971 there hasn’t been a gold standard so they just make the funding up anyway. The money isn’t real anymore. At 0.75% I think the government could afford to sell some bonds.

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      at 0.75% the government could simply print more money into circulation without fear of the inflationary pressures that would accompany such a move. Yes the surplus would be kicked down the road but the weaker currency would aid exporters. Governments are not households when it comes to managing budgets.

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      Totally agree with Intellego. This government is truly the most hard hearted, greedy and cruel leaners i have ever seen in power. They are disgusting.

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      OMG, On The Ball! I knew tax dodging by large corporations was a problem but I had no idea it was just so rampant.

      How come all those fossil fuel companies are paying no tax? Glencore, ExxonMobil, Energy Australia, Santos, Chevron, Peabody, CSR & AMCOR, just for starters.

      And all these carbon burners, with the LNP on their sides, have the hide to whinge about the subsidies supposedly given to the renewable energy sector. Damned hypocrites & parasites!

      Oh but the Surplus is the most important thing in the world, it seems. Where are my cigars, Jeeves?

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      Also Hoohoo it’s about time all religious organisations started paying their fair share of tax & also stop all the other benefits they enjoy which will undoubtedly be further protected by this Pentecostal PM
      The Hillsong Church rakes in $100 million a year from its tax-exempt Australian operations as its weekly flock of 34,000 supporters hands over their hard-earned cash.
      And the Catholic church would be even bigger one would think

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      There are many more “churches” that rake in millions and pay no tax, why is it they are allowed to own businesses and pay no tax? C3 is a new one, then there are the long standing Scientologists as well. Anyone can start a “church” and pay no tax, I think this has to stop, and will stop many of the charlatans starting up “churches” and bleeding the gullible.

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      I agree the churches are leeches on our economy – not to mention gullible people. And where do their untaxed profits go? Overseas?

      If only people who believe they have a soul also believe they have a brain to think for themselves. That said, there are many good people who are active in churches & they no doubt contribute to charitable ends.

      But as for the brainwashing of children & other human rights offences, whether they be orthodox religions or more radical varieties, is in my opinion on very shaky in the light of religious freedom. If the religious freedom laws allow for freedom to preach one brand of sky fairy then they have to allow for all versions of sky fairies, whether they are guilt mongerers, clitoris cutters, fleecers of the flock or any type of human rights perpetrators.

      BTW, I believe in my own version of sky fairies – me! And everyone & everything else. I call it the Congregation of Existence. There are no fees, no masses, no hierarchy plus nothing & no-one is excluded, not even dark matter. Welcome everyone & everything!
      PS. Private & positive prayers are allowed & encouraged while sitting on the dunny, patting pets & even while having a wank.

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    What a condescending, heartless and typical self serving Minister that should not be holding the position at all. Another Liberal bludger that’s causing more poverty.

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      Now you know why the Rat Weasel Howard stole all the guns… I’m beginning to lean towards the idea that Port Arthur was, after all, a false flag operation… not much about it makes sense really ….

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      Trebor, if you are saying that it was the Government behind it, come out and say it

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      Totally agree. They got $10,000 raise this year. Only concerned for themselves and mates

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      I merely raise the doubt, Sceptic – many factors simply don’t add up… including witness descriptions of the shooter….

      I would not say the government did it until I was absolutely certain… but it is healthy to raise the doubts and offer suggestions as to why it could be that GuvCo did it …

      “One guarantee of a free society is the free exchange of information.” -JFK.

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      Anyway – as anyone knows who has had any experience of such things – the end narrative is only an estimate of the truth – never the absolute truth…

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      Agree with you entirely Jackie, well said.

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    Just give all those on welfare a welfare card and raise Newstart. That way the spending of the extra money is a lot harder to spend on drugs and booze.

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      You are making the assumption that all people who are struggling to make ends meet are spending their money on drugs and alcohol.
      That is a very narrow right wing attitude and not borne out by the facts. Yes some do and when in the situation some find themselves it can be a release for a little while however short sighted that might be.
      Perhaps if the drug problem was tackled in a sensible way, as it has been in some overseas countries, then progress might be made. The war on drugs, a la John Howard, has been well and truly lost and was never going to be successful.
      Australia is a rich country and our treatment of the unemployed is disgraceful. Given the LNP made great strides in shutting down our manufacturing industries surely they should face up to their responsibility for both unemployed and underemployed.

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      You are making the assumption that all people who are struggling to make ends meet are spending their money on drugs and alcohol.
      That is a very narrow right wing attitude and not borne out by the facts. Yes some do and when in the situation some find themselves it can be a release for a little while however short sighted that might be.
      Perhaps if the drug problem was tackled in a sensible way, as it has been in some overseas countries, then progress might be made. The war on drugs, a la John Howard, has been well and truly lost and was never going to be successful.
      Australia is a rich country and our treatment of the unemployed is disgraceful. Given the LNP made great strides in shutting down our manufacturing industries surely they should face up to their responsibility for both unemployed and underemployed.

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      We tend to ignore Big Bear – he hasn’t worked out yet the difference between facts and rhetoric when it comes to Social Security – just repeats the same worn-out old line over and over in the hope that someone might believe it….

      Nobody has yet …..

      Don’t waste your time – he never changes his tune – just re-posts the same over and over.

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      Indue is failing to pay the bills. People will soon be in trouble and forced out of rentals because of this incompetence. Not to mention the landlords waiting to be paid to pay the mortgage. How anyone thought suddenly the privateers would be able to manage services when they have stuffed up just about everything else is very optimistic. Obviously they are incompetent like the current government.

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      I Know!! Indue is going to do a construction company job and go ‘broke’ owing billions, while its honchoes walk with millions each without any hindrance – and the taxpayer will simply bail them out!!!

      Easy money…

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      Tanker there are two types of people on welfare. Those who want to work and can’t for whatever reason and those who play the system.
      Unfortunately those who play the system have found welfare to be a generational accepted life style. From cradle to death the thought of working is not even a consideration. – That’s what the government is trying to stop.
      I know all the points why this is unreasonable for those who genuinely need help however somehow Australia has to stop the “free loader who comes to dinner and moves in”.

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      VeryCaringBigBear, I take exception to your statement ‘Just give all those on welfare a welfare card and raise Newstart. That way the spending of the extra money is a lot harder to spend on drugs and booze.’
      While I am on a pension I know quite a few people on Newstart – not one of them buy drugs or booze. Yes you get some – empathise on SOME people on newstart who spend their money on drugs and booze but 99.9% do not. They are responsible people trying to do the best they can in very dark circumstances.
      WHY should those doing the right thing be punished because a few stuff up?
      The welfare card is a con and costs way more to implement/run than it would just giving All on Newstart/pensions a $50 a week/fortnight rise.
      In fact the government could give everyone over $200 a week rise and still not cost as much as the welfare card is costing.

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      Does it really matter that there are people gaming the welfare system while the number of unemployed, underemployed and the ignored vastly exceed the number of jobs available? Recognise that the indolent on welfare reduce competition for those who actually want jobs and focus efforts on eliminating the black economy to minimise rorting welfare. It’s past time to kick this issue down the road and revisit in a few years time.

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      Spot on Tanker. This government just likes to kick anyone who is vulnerable and doing it tough. If they were so keen to help those affected by drugs and alcohol they’d be opening up a whole lot more rehab centres etc for those poor unfortunates. They don’t give a rats about anyone but themselves. They pander to the rich and slander the poor. We need a revolution.

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      This silly idea that all people on Newstart are bludgers, drug-takers & drug-dealers is propaganda so that people think it’s OK for the Govt to kick the down-trodden in the face. Much like the German people were duped into accepting that Jews deserved to be treated with less respect – we all know how that ended.

      Underemployment is a HUGE issue in our society, where even highly-qualified TAFE teachers have to put in a tender for every class they wish to teach, give over all their notes for the curriculum & syllabus for each lesson & then lose all their work if they don’t get the gig – it becomes the property of the TAFE. The only person at our local TAFE who has a full time job is the Manager – the rest of the teachers are like low class prostitutes, hoping for a shitty gig with no holiday pay or sick leave. No show, no pay.

      People from our older generation who had a job for life have NO IDEA what it’s like now. If you don’t take on an “internship” at $4 an hour, you might not pass the Work Test set by Centrelink & they can cut you off for not trying hard enough to get a job. There are jobs, and then there are jobs.

      The Libs say they’ve created all these new jobs yet there are still the same number of people unemployed (or registered as unemployed). As soon as you work one hour a week, you are no longer classified as unemployed. So to conclude, they’ve created over a million shitty, low-paid jobs. Who benefits? The companies that have a choice of competing workers who are prepared to do any crappy job at the lowest possible wage. Cutting Sunday penalty rates was like breaking the kneecaps to some of these workers

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      I agree with you HooHoo, people have no idea what the real world is like now, it is a terrible road that employment is walking down, all benefiting share holders and CEO’s, not the hard working people who are trying to find a permanent secure job. No wonder some courses in Tafe are now free, with the low wages and not having to pay sick or holiday leave.

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    Why on earth should Scumbo (Scott Morrison) or for that matter, any politician care about the aged or those on Newstart? Politicians line their pockets, set up their wealthy retirement, get their free travel and it’s us idiots that pay for it out of the public purse and don’t even give a damn about it!

    Sorry, did I hear someone say they do, bull###t! I have been writing about Australian politicians taking the taxpayers for a cash-filled drive for years, even been threatened, well, I’m too old to care what people think, but I do care about the rip-off politicians that have taken Australians for a ride for over many years and guess what, nobody has ever listened, have you voiced your opinion openly about the rip-off polies lining their pockets and couldn’t give a sh#t about whose money it is?

    Scumbo (Scott Morrison) goes to a so-called church that has one of the richest men running it, with armed guards, did Jesus have armed guards? No! So, is that a church, of course not, but they get topped up by the taxpayer, as does the church of scientology, and I do not capitalise their name on purpose, as all they are there for is money, wealth, greed and avarice!

    Elderly people have no say, elderly people have no rights, elderly people are a burden on the financial system, so why should they have a say? Why should governments support them? Every week or so, we hear of dastardly things done to the elderly in nursing homes, horrifying, at least for a week or two, then it goes into the basket of oblivion not to be heard of until another elderly person gets killed, maimed, or injured.

    Recently, I had a fall, I broke my neck, ribs, wrist, but what I went through was that of nightmares; while in hospital and full of morphine, my bed got soiled, twice I asked for help from nursing staff, in the end, I phoned my wife, she came and cleaned me up and changed my soiled bed, who cares, I’m an old man; my wife noticed in a cubicle further down, a prisoner being tended to with 2 guards and nursing staff buzzing around to that prisoner’s every whim, my poor wife, still couldn’t get help, that’s why she had to change my bed for me. I do however have a letter of apology from those at the top because I wasn’t afraid to say something.

    Getting back to politicians, at one time, they had to be upstanding members of the community, not anymore, anyone can be one these days and it helps more if you have money or the backing of someone else who has and need your help to get their party into power! “If it’s going to be, it’s up to me.”, an old saying, but a good one, everyone should say that to themselves at least once a week, don’t you think? Our governments give millions away to other countries, countries who actually hate us, I ask, why? WE should be pumping that money into better schools, hospitals, nursing homes, care for the sick and elderly, and not for ingrates like Scumbo (Scott Morrison) to give millions to the USA, or any country for that matter while we have homeless people and veterans who served this country, out on the streets. Am I the only one who gives a damn?

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      Three words describe you, LEFT WING WHINGER.

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      arbee. that would have to be the nastiest comment that I’ve ever seen on this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you can’t find any compassion in the comments made by greatgolly, then there is no hope for you. If you can’t contribute anything inyelligent to this forum then go somewhere else and get rid of your bile.

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      Well said, ‘maelcolium’, I have always tried to be honest and avoid hurting those who are already hurting, there is enough of that as it is; all this government has shown is lack of compassion toward those who are suffering! What happened to me in hospital should never have happened, and what I said about the government is as expected, my personal opinion.

      I was a volunteer for 31 years, helping the very people this government maltreats, so I have seen so much ill-will, sadness, and sadly, death, all could have been avoided; I am not left-wing as accused and nor w whinger, what I had seen in that 31 years, would bring many to tears as it had me. People on the streets, some, if not many, are there through circumstances beyond their control and governments want them gone, if that’s what they want, give them a home!

      Thank you for your kind comment.

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      Well said, ‘maelcolium’, I have always tried to be honest and avoid hurting those who are already hurting, there is enough of that as it is; all this government has shown is lack of compassion toward those who are suffering! What happened to me in hospital should never have happened, and what I said about the government is as expected, my personal opinion.

      I was a volunteer for 31 years, helping the very people this government maltreats, so I have seen so much ill-will, sadness, and sadly, death, all could have been avoided; I am not left-wing as accused and nor w whinger, what I had seen in that 31 years, would bring many to tears as it had me. People on the streets, some, if not many, are there through circumstances beyond their control and governments want them gone, if that’s what they want, give them a home!

      Thank you for your kind comment.

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      Truly this man is the Son of Truth….. speak it loud and clear – nobody worries about arbee the whiner ….

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      Of course Arbee will call you a whinger Greatgolly that is what all LNP supporters call anyone who complains or voices their opinion against the LNP.
      And Greatgolly I do care, and do not vote for the main parties.

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      So that is why you use the term Scumbo about the Prime Minister, Greatgolly, being honest and fair?

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      A fair summation of our proxy prime minister… the default model since there was really nobody else ….

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      greatgolly, I agree with you.
      Charity should begin at home and as you say ‘too much money is sent overseas’ especially to countries that actually don’t need the money. It certainly isn’t going to the people on the streets but lining that countries government pockets.
      If the government actually meant to do something for this country they would stop ALL immigration until we have jobs, transport, homes etc for the people already living here. They would have built more water catchment areas, dams and grey water recycle plants with the water being sent up the bush rather than into the sea. That alone would create 1000’s of jobs and stop a lot of country folk from leaving their towns – plus it would boost the population of said towns as people moved there for work.
      I just wish they would stop listening to the ‘greenies’ who bleat a lot but never seem to come up with ANY viable solutions to the things they see as problems.

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      Well said greatgolly and a great name for that numbskull we call the PM.

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    Why on earth should Scumbo (Scott Morrison) or for that matter, any politician care about the aged or those on Newstart? Politicians line their pockets, set up their wealthy retirement, get their free travel and it’s us idiots that pay for it out of the public purse and don’t even give a damn about it!

    Sorry, did I hear someone say they do, bull###t! I have been writing about Australian politicians taking the taxpayers for a cash-filled drive for years, even been threatened, well, I’m too old to care what people think, but I do care about the rip-off politicians that have taken Australians for a ride for over many years and guess what, nobody has ever listened, have you voiced your opinion openly about the rip-off polies lining their pockets and couldn’t give a sh#t about whose money it is?

    Scumbo (Scott Morrison) goes to a so-called church that has one of the richest men running it, with armed guards, did Jesus have armed guards? No! So, is that a church, of course not, but they get topped up by the taxpayer, as does the church of scientology, and I do not capitalise their name on purpose, as all they are there for is money, wealth, greed and avarice!

    Elderly people have no say, elderly people have no rights, elderly people are a burden on the financial system, so why should they have a say? Why should governments support them? Every week or so, we hear of dastardly things done to the elderly in nursing homes, horrifying, at least for a week or two, then it goes into the basket of oblivion not to be heard of until another elderly person gets killed, maimed, or injured.

    Recently, I had a fall, I broke my neck, ribs, wrist, but what I went through was that of nightmares; while in hospital and full of morphine, my bed got soiled, twice I asked for help from nursing staff, in the end, I phoned my wife, she came and cleaned me up and changed my soiled bed, who cares, I’m an old man; my wife noticed in a cubicle further down, a prisoner being tended to with 2 guards and nursing staff buzzing around to that prisoner’s every whim, my poor wife, still couldn’t get help, that’s why she had to change my bed for me. I do however have a letter of apology from those at the top because I wasn’t afraid to say something.

    Getting back to politicians, at one time, they had to be upstanding members of the community, not anymore, anyone can be one these days and it helps more if you have money or the backing of someone else who has and need your help to get their party into power! “If it’s going to be, it’s up to me.”, an old saying, but a good one, everyone should say that to themselves at least once a week, don’t you think? Our governments give millions away to other countries, countries who actually hate us, I ask, why? WE should be pumping that money into better schools, hospitals, nursing homes, care for the sick and elderly, and not for ingrates like Scumbo (Scott Morrison) to give millions to the USA, or any country for that matter while we have homeless people and veterans who served this country, out on the streets. Am I the only one who gives a damn?

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      In your last paragraph you see the seeds of our current trend towards creating what I term ‘created criminals’ – torn out of ordinary people in ordinary circumstances – look at a lot of legislation that has passed in the last 25 years or so that will make of anyone a criminal without their even trying…. drink driving laws set at an absurd level, ‘domestic violence’ laws, ‘anti-discrimination’ laws, gun laws…. you name it…. then we have the spectre that it is in the interests of government to create of people ‘criminals’ so that their social power – yes, you got it – such as standing for election is reduced to zero…. so the instruments of government set out deliberately to make people into criminals.**

      Start thinking…. you are on the right track….

      ** been that way since the convict colony days – the same happened to Ned Kelly, and has not altered much since….

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      There is also another church that is tax free and making millions on lies called C3. Imagine if all the tax free “churches” paid tax, that will help the budget.
      I like Scomo’s new name Scumbo.

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      Trebor, you’re so right, who’s there now to stop them? I tried, years ago at 42, crime was afoot in political circles, inside knowledge of poker machines licenses, I made effort on standing for anti-corruption, sadly, I became a target, some did time, some lost marriages, I lost my attempt at politics! I wasn’t saddened, as it stopped some corruption, so all not in vain. I don’t think politics has changed or the corruption from within!

      Now I am an old man, I worry now for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren, what kind of future awaits them, I fear for them!

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      Trebor, you’re so right, who’s there now to stop them? I tried, years ago at 42, crime was afoot in political circles, inside knowledge of poker machines licenses, I made effort on standing for anti-corruption, sadly, I became a target, some did time, some lost marriages, I lost my attempt at politics! I wasn’t saddened, as it stopped some corruption, so all not in vain. I don’t think politics has changed or the corruption from within!

      Now I am an old man, I worry now for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren, what kind of future awaits them, I fear for them!

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      Musicveg: Sorry, just noticed C3 church, I only heard that this morning and know nothing about it, but I assumed it might be a part of hillsong, and that’s no church in the eyes of God I’m sure; I wonder if the Good Lord Jesus foresaw all this evil?

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      Musicveg: Sorry, just noticed C3 church, I only heard that this morning and know nothing about it, but I assumed it might be a part of hillsong, and that’s no church in the eyes of God I’m sure; I wonder if the Good Lord Jesus foresaw all this evil?

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      I am not religious but I like Jesus, he was a cool dude, he would be saddened that evil and greed is taking over religion. Check out A current affair on catch up TV they ran a story of C3. How so many people believe in the leader is unbelievable.

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    Geez. I better not take any Panadol Osteo. And should I stop taking my cholesterol and thyroid meds because they might cut off my part Newstart allowance and I cant even remember the last time I went to a pub.

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    This Minister is an absolute disgrace..she quoted that if they increased the Newstart allowance,it would go to drug pushers and Publicans..arrogantly pathetic comment..

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      If this is ‘political talent’ – they need to get a few new contenders …..

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      Yes TOR888, she may be right in that it is probable a small proportion of increased Newstart will go to drug dealers (and I include tobacco and alcohol retailers) but most will go on essential things like food, rent and transport etc. Same as it is probable a proportion of the $150Billion in revenue the government is handing back to the well off over the next 10 years will disappear up some people’s nose in the form of cocaine or other social drugs. Seems the Minister has no problem with wealthy class illicit drug use, just the down and outs.

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      More people are addicted to pharmaceuticals these days, real drugs are bought by working people who can afford it, or those who are not even on Newstart and live by crime.

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      Tor888, did you leave out the bit”if you are an addict.” on purpose to make your point?

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      This is what annoys me Tor888. They get away with talk like that so when we hear it again we need to stamp on all politicians’ salary increases because it will go on extra booze and overseas trips and anything else we can think of.

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      The Chinese and the Indos take to the streets, and the French – we take to the clubs and pokies for some relief… and thus are easy game for critics like Ruston (great name by the way- another one term wonder I hope).

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    She is wrong the under employed and the unemployed and low wages growth is affecting everyone we have a government elected with no policy just using scare mongering ordinary Australians the battlers are doing it tougher than ever before they do not have money to spend to keep the economy moving some families cant afford 3 meals a day and this is in the so called lucky country our hospitals are overcrowded and the problem is growing. I know of one person who had a breakdown and had to spend 48 hours in emergency sitting in a chair because they could not find him a bed and this is the lucky country all this mob is doing is looking after the rich I wonder if this tosser could live on such a small amount of money

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    Her comments are insulting, ill informed and based on a ideology not facts! When I took a redundancy at age 45 I struggled to get a job because of Age Discrimination disguised in comments like “you are over-qualified for the job”. Any so called “over qualification” is my problem not theirs.

    Apart from the lack of jobs, discrimination is rife. Employers (and the Government) ignore the extensive evidence that shows older employees are more productive, more loyal, have a greater range of skills than younger employees and actually value add to an organisation

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      clearly that extensive evidence is not persuasive enough for many employers to take a chance on giving and older person preference ahead of a younger person who is perhaps trying to get ahead.

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      Yes Farside and it is yet another reason people are saving and not spending. There is little confidence to spend if you may need to support yourself from age 60 to 67.

      Countries with no support for older people never develop. You need a lot of children and to save everything you can because of insecurity.

      Building insecurity is one way to destroy a country. Why the LNP want to do this is unknown.

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    Australia is headed towards and will become a 3rd world country in the way it treats its older persons. We are already a 3rd world country when it comes to the internet.
    The politicians and media constantly tell us how much better older persons are treated in Australia than in the US. That may be true today but it should be remembered the US has 15 times the population of Australia. With continue out of control immigration we will end up like a smaller scale US in the way older persons are treated.

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      We are headed for a future war – the only question is whether it is an international one or a civil one…… our own backyard is so filled with filth there is a need for drastic change…

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      I’ve been concerned about a civil war for a long time, Trebor. There will come a time when so many people have their backs to the wall they’ll have to turn and fight. And the extra pressure of ‘divide and rule’ with government and media whipping up a frenzy over climate change.

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      In essence (I know I get a little hirsute in my thinking at times) there has been an unspoken civil war in play here for several decades – usually the ‘insurgents’ carry out acts such as using drugs and petty crime and such – whatever it is they do, it is clearly outside of the mainstream and is in opposition to our society as it currently exists. Some even see that as a real part in their specific civil war…. I speak here of our Indigenous brothers who feel – with or without justification, you choose – that anything they can get from Whitey is fair game, and every act of crime etc is part of their war of resentment and revenge for centuries of theft and abuse etc….

      I can’t judge the merits of that viewpoint from our Indigenous bros – I’ve never been there so I can’t really say… but the reality is those who choose that path do so as an act against our established society – hence an act of civil war.

      Not all like that.. but some certainly are.

      I’ve been wondering about that sheila in Malbadishu (formerly Melbourne) and her comments on burning the place down – and the current bushfires… is this indeed an act of WAR (Warriors of the Aboriginal resistance)?

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      Agreed, Trebor and Triss, what are these people who are unemployed and demonised by the government to do but fight back or turn to crime to supply their needs. I wouldn’t blame them one little bit, I blame the government for causing the problem.

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