Older Aussies top exclusion list

New report reveals more than half of over 65s are socially excluded.

Older Aussies top exclusion list

A recent Brotherhood of St Laurence (BSL) report that measures poverty and disadvantage, has revealed that more than half those aged over 65 are missing out.

In an attempt to more fully understand disadvantage, the Social Exclusion Monitor considers a wider spread of indicators than just household income. Developed by the BSL in conjunction with the University of Melbourne, and based on data from the national Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) survey, seven key factors are measured.

These ‘life domains’ are material resources, employment, education and skills, health and disability, social connection, community and personal safety. The findings present both a warning and a challenge. The ‘accumulation of deprivation’ is worst for those aged 65 and above, with long-term health conditions or a disability. Almost half of this group experience exclusion according to the most recent data (2012). And, once again, there is a gender gap with women more excluded that men in all age groups, but in particular those aged 55 and over.

The report notes, “the most prevalent indicators of exclusion are low education, long-term health conditions or disabilities and low wealth – each is experienced by at least 20 per cent of people. “It also highlights the fact that the level of social exclusion has increased since the GFC in 2008, especially for those aged above 65 and between 15-24.  

Read more at The Conversation

Access the BSL’s research bulletin

 

Are you missing out?

Income alone does not represent our life situation. So while it is shocking to see the exclusion rates for older Australians, we first need to recognise this in order to make a change. The Brotherhood is to be commended for its work with those who are victims of lifelong disadvantage, and even more so for working with the University of Melbourne to gain a more accurate picture of how such disadvantage plays out. In particular, the Social Exclusion Monitor is a valuable ongoing snapshot of how people’s daily lives are affected by their socio-economic status. And it’s not good news for older Australians with almost half missing out on the key indicators necessary to live a dignified, connected and productive life.

So why are older people so much at risk of being excluded? Where would you start? Well, first up, let’s look at material resources and note that the full Age Pension remains BELOW the income required to live even a modest life style. Poor health is also an issue, and with the current government cutting back on preventative health campaigns, this is unlikely to change anytime soon. Employment is also a challenge for many older Australians with age discrimination preventing many from getting back into the workforce in their 50s. And being born a woman has its drawbacks – over a lifetime you will have earned less, saved less, received less superannuation and probably cared for family members, so your material resources are in many instances half those of a male.

What’s the answer? As with most social policy challenges, there is no one answer. But the first step is always to recognise we have a problem. The BSL Social Exclusion Monitor offers authoritative research that clearly demonstrates significant social exclusion for older Australians. It’s up to all of us to take the debate forward, tackling the many factors that cause this disadvantage, one by one. 

What about you? Are you one of the 50 per cent who are socially excluded? Why do you think this has happened? What would you like to see done to improve this situation?





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    Kali-G
    27th Jul 2015
    10:08am
    Our Governments are at fault!
    Instead of looking after our citizens, they waste billions on things that we don't need.
    Foreign aid= Billions
    Frigates and submarines, why do we need them? we cannot even stop small illegal boats ..and who is going to invade us, the Chinese already own half of Australia...they will protect us...
    The huge government waste on Aboriginals....nearly 3 times as much as on white australians..
    Government waste 7 state duplication
    Refugee centres...=billions
    our armed forces in countries that is useless to us= billions
    and the list goes on...
    Instead of chiseling at our detriment the government should focus on improving our lives instead!
    .
    Sen.Cit.90
    27th Jul 2015
    11:48am
    Kali-G;
    I tend to agree with your comments. Regarding ship building etc. Some years ago I worked in South Africa and a Gov't decision was made; SA had no intention of invading any one. They then decided to scrap building all big naval ships and decided to build smaller high tech missile Vessels with a 50 man crew instead.
    These could be moored around SA giving air and sea cover against an invader. I've not followed this thought and don't know if they have actually carried out the policy. It sounded good to me. Who are we going to invade?
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    12:38pm
    Kangaroo Island and Steal all their Crayfish ! :-)
    Happy cyclist
    27th Jul 2015
    12:46pm
    Its so easy to blame the government for everything but in this case I believe there are many factors at play. Even people who have been very lucky in life and who live comfortably can be socially excluded due to so many possibilities. Things like relationship breakdowns, family moving far away, friends moving away, neighbourhoods changing. There are so many possibilities to suddenly realise you don't have much if any support network and you feel too old to do much about it. So please get over blaming the government for everything, its just too easy.
    wally
    27th Jul 2015
    3:41pm
    I am sure that the RAN's ships could have sunk the asylum seeker boats. That would have stopped the refugee boats "dead in the water" al right. The UN and the usual bleeding heart chorus would never stop bleating about it.

    So this brings us back to the point of having an Army, Navy or Air force if you do not intened to se them? Sure, they are busy in the Middle East stopping and inspecting shipping, bombing suspected ISL positions in the Middle East and trying to get the Iraqi Army to do something besides surrender.

    As far as waste goes, taxpayer money needs to be better targeted toward programs that incorporate consultation with the people that the programs are intended to benefit. Shovelling money out of the back of a truck in needy communities does nothing to improve lifestyle outcomes of the people in question. I agree with Kali G about the waste, but the problem is with the bureaucrats and their failure to search for sensible spending solutions before handing out the money.

    Maybe the social engineers should investigate how to improve health and attitudes in the disadvantaged communities and take a carrot and stick approach to get people to send their children to school and actually learn something beyond learning to put their hands out and demand more because it is their entitlement.
    bookwyrm
    29th Jul 2015
    11:00pm
    I really do blame the government.
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    10:15am
    Half of the Oldies I know cant afford any Teef !! :-( < Look No TEEF ??
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    1:27pm
    I'll agree with that - hugely expensive for a pensioner unless you can get free treatment.

    Of course, my policy is that all health care for pensioners is free..... totally free... as part of the deal.
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    4:56pm
    particolor - a friend of my daughter who came from UK (been living in OZ for 30 years) went back to UK for a holiday to visit relatives and anyway she had a problem with her teeth and got them fixed for 25% of the price it would have cost in OZ. I am not 100% sure but if I heard right its because dental is covered under medicare in UK - if UK can make dental care affordable surely we can
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    5:22pm
    Thanks for that ! :-) What I want to know is What part of the Human Body our Government thinks Teeth Aren't ??
    Adrianus
    28th Jul 2015
    7:27pm
    When I went to the dentist recently he asked me how much longer I expected to live. I told him my expectations are high and that's why I'm paying you every 6 months for a check up.
    I agree bob Menzies, we need to do something about getting dental into Medicare. I saw a young mother the other day smile at me and all her teeth were severely decade. I cant stop thinking about her.
    particolor
    28th Jul 2015
    7:36pm
    I'm sorry Hear that ! But I've waited Longer than a Decade :-(
    greygeek
    27th Jul 2015
    10:57am
    Our local Council has recently spent considerable money on a programme for Seniors. "But" it is only useful if you are fully mobile!! Called something like "move it", a young lady called me and suggested I go for walks as shown on the map, catch a bus, perhaps jogging? All this, AFTER she had already inquired of my physical capabilities and found I am all but housebound due to severe joint problems/pain!! My answers were not what she expected. She has since phoned again to "see how I am enjoying the package"!!!! Am I catching the bus? Been for any nice walks? What the?? Why is money being wasted on such things, when the organisers do NOT listen to the answers the people targeted provide?
    I worked and paid taxes for 48 years, looked after ill/dying Parents/in laws, raised a family, takes me all week, but I get the house clean and the laundry done. I pay for that effort with continual pain! I do not fit into any of the "boxes", so I guess I am another who misses out, on what I don't know!! Ah, that's it, social exclusion!! Yes, being unable to participate in physical activities, walks along the beach, around the suburb, climb the steps onto a bus, let alone walk Up the driveway to look in the letter box!! I wish the Governments (all levels) would stop wasting taxpayer's money on "feel good talkfests" and overseas problems, when there is a growing problem in our own Country of people who have worked until they can no more, who worked when Super was not compulsory, who put family before themselves, who were never a burden on society until they could no longer work!!
    Ted
    27th Jul 2015
    11:14am
    Thank you for sharing your experience as this points out a very real issue. People not listening to what people actually want. Instead they create these feel good programs that expect people to fit into what the program wants to deliver. In Brisbane we have the free program in the parks where anyone over 50 can go and attend a range of free wellness based activities. Many can't access the parks due to barriers such as hilly terrains, no seats, no shelter, sharing the area with dog walkers (obvious issues with that) and many other issues such as transport issues. Whilst many do enjoy these activities more don't.
    Another issue is just because the council or the government want people to remain healthy and well, doesn't mean that the people do. Whether tax payers are aware of it or not, the last two governments have spent untold millions in developing the living longer living better philosophy in aged care service delivery but when all is said and done, there is no change. I get daily reports of clients who try to communicate with their larger service provider and are told nothing is changing we will deliver the service when its convenient for us.
    Now with consumer directed care the client is supposed to say when they want the service but in reality the companies just don't have the resources to deliver the expectation.
    Isolation will only grow as more and more are taken away from service providers over the next coming years. You give clients their budgets and they will use them for a myriad of things but not necessarily for services to assist them to overcome social isolation!
    KSS
    27th Jul 2015
    12:33pm
    So greygeek, for your personal circumstances what do suggest the answer is? If you say you are excluded socially because of your personal circumstances, how do you suggest the Government 'fix it' for you? And then there is the question about personal responsibility. What are YOU doing to alleviate the social isolation?
    greygeek
    27th Jul 2015
    4:20pm
    KSS, the answer in the example I portrayed, would be for the Local Council to save money by removing from their lists, people who are physically unable to participate in the "move it" programme!! It is a waste of money to continue to contact them! Especially after learning at the first contact made, that the person does not "physically qualify" for the programme!! I do not expect the Government, or any Agency to "fix it" for me!!! I did not say or infer that!
    The article written above would "suggest" that I fit into the "researched category" of "social isolation", ( I do not fit into any of the "boxes", so I guess I am another who misses out, on what I don't know!! Ah, that's it, social exclusion!! ) That comment was "tongue in cheek"!!!! What would be extremely wise, would be for Governments/Agencies to invite written suggestions/comments on what services would be beneficial and useful to different stages of life, in this case, the older population. Users of childcare, kindergartens, primary and high schools all have an opportunity to be heard, suggestions researched and put in place for the betterment of the recipients and this is how it should be! Consultation, discussion, decision! Having never been a "burden to the taxpayer", having always been personally responsible for my own welfare and having stated such in my initial post, I object to your inferrence otherwise!! My comment was not a "woe is me" at all!! I accept the situation I am in and am thankful that I am not "worse"!! I am like a lot of people my age, determined to remain independent as long as possible! Again I did not say I was "socially isolated", ticking the boxes in the report would place me in that category!!!
    Ted
    27th Jul 2015
    11:01am
    As someone who has worked in the aged care industry in particular social support, the reasons are many. Firstly if a person has been what we term a 'loner' all their lives this will not change when they get older. Secondly for many of the older men their social life has been their family, and meeting at the local club for a beer, to watch sport etc. If you go into any hotel or club during the day this is where you will find many.
    Another point is transport barriers. Our clients are lucky in that we do have transport to assist clients access programs and activities however the Government in its wisdom has now drastically cut the one remaining funding opportunity - The Community Benefit fund to $35, 000 four times a year. I am not sure the last time you looked at the cost of purchasing a fully accessible bus, but it is around the $120,000 mark or above. Senior Citzs centre in Brisbane has existed since 1958. The very first one in Brisbane was and is the Metropolitan Senior Citizens Centre. We started where there were no welfare support services.
    I have not looked at the report yet but will as I always read their reports as they are insightful. I am just wondering though what they consider to be social support? Is it just the traditional methods of going to a senior citzs centre or some sort of local club? Is it because they are not aware of what is available, is it because all the traditional areas of funding are drying up for organiations who can no longer provide transport support? This is a very complex issue based on many different factors.
    nena
    27th Jul 2015
    11:16am
    Yep...I´m one of the 50% disadvantaged, culturally disadvantaged that is. What is "Teff" ?
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    11:33am
    Its how they say TEETH when they haven't got any :-(
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    11:35am
    PS.. :-)
    stake
    27th Jul 2015
    11:34am
    we dont have to be alarmed mr abbott will not break any of his promses HA HA get rid of him at the first chance that you have, the best way is spread the the slogan GET RID OF JUGHEAD
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    11:37am
    Then what ?? All the Clowns either party are all just as OINK as each other ??
    LiveItUp
    27th Jul 2015
    12:07pm
    Agree our current PM is not the problem it's whoever is PM is the problem.
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    12:34pm
    This farm needs better Live Stock :-)
    Supernan
    27th Jul 2015
    12:38pm
    I prefer the name "the Mad Monk" for him !
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    3:46pm
    "Toby Mug".
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    4:16pm
    Argh - I prefer t' refer to 'm as ma ghillie - the mon 'oo husbands an' watches o'er the livestock an' game on yon property... an' is s'posed te keep oot poachers!
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    6:26pm
    That's nearly as good as the "Galah Gathering" I was reading about down the bottom there somewhere ? :-)
    nena
    27th Jul 2015
    11:37am
    Well, all came to unfair distribution of resources. Until recently I was living in a stigmatised area. My doctor only dedicated about 3 minutes to each patient because he was too busy... of course, he could not cure any one in that short period of time. Even tough he was a very good and caring doctor, that is if one arrived with a cracked knee cup or...an angina attack. However I was feeling very, very sad because, even if it did cost me a cent, Medicare has to face the bill and it was a waste of many, since Government's recourses were negatively affected.
    But at present, by moving to my new residence I have to look for a new doctor and I was very lucky, after my second choice, I found a doctor who is a DOCTOR in all sense of the word. She look in my face and listens when I'm telling her about my health's concerns. And after seen her a few times in the beginning now I don't need to see her as oftern...it is a win, win situation. The Health Minister should look into these cases where money is wasted and every one suffer the consequences of wrongly assessing case by case and consequently, unfair distribution of resources
    nena
    27th Jul 2015
    11:45am
    Thank you ´particolor´...hopefully I would be able to say teeth for a while yet LOL
    melbgirl
    27th Jul 2015
    11:58am
    When paying private rent takes 2/3rds of income, there isn't any choice but to go without.
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    12:06pm
    By the time I skin and gut my sausages there's nothing left !! :-(
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    1:29pm
    Be ready for the price hikes, parti - snags are going up and up....
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    3:50pm
    Hopefully you won't be so broke you can't pay attention.
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    5:58pm
    Yes ! Get back to the Subject ! The Concern of Politicians for the Poverty of the Elderly. :-)
    Pass the Ductape
    27th Jul 2015
    11:47pm
    Wait until the price of gas rises (last I heard was by a factor of 3) - then high costs are really going to bite! Add an increase of 5% in the GST rate on top of everything else and we'll all be going back to scrounging wood or coal (plenty of that to be had) to use for cooking and heating. But wait - there's bound to be more.
    particolor
    28th Jul 2015
    7:13pm
    Drill Your own Gas Hole !! I never saw one word in the Magna Carta against it !! :-) :-)
    Adrianus
    29th Jul 2015
    6:36pm
    melbgirl, have you thought about house sharing?
    flanjam
    27th Jul 2015
    12:08pm
    Exclusion certainly occurs even when not in a difficult health situation. A "young" friend (i.e. younger than I) is currently without a home. She has her possessions in storage and spends her days couch-surfing between family and friends, currently sheltering in a cabin in a local caravan park so some quiet time. She does not have a lot of money, is undereducated, widowed and her children have made their own life which does not include their mother. She does not want to go into a retirement village, nor live alone, nor pay high rates or body corporate and so she continues to wander. Why is this allowed? Oh yes, that's right she's rich (not) but almost self supporting so she doesn't matter - sad but true!
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    12:33pm
    Our local Council should be made to make more comfortable Park Benches! They are hard as Rocks and Hurt My Gammy Hips I toss and turn all night long ! The Bus shelter is out of the Question as it is Booked Out till Summer ! :-(
    KSS
    27th Jul 2015
    12:40pm
    flanjam its allowed because it is the prerogative of your friend to make her own choices. You say she doesn't want to go into a retirement village, live alone, pay rates or body corporate fees... So that basically excludes her from both owning her won home or renting. What exactly does she expect? She could go into a private flat share? Just what exactly do you expect 'someone' to do for her?
    Happy cyclist
    27th Jul 2015
    1:40pm
    KSS I agree with you. What does flanjam mean "why is this allowed"? This person is apparently choosing how she wants to live with a long list of what she doesn't want. Its her life, let her live it.
    Hawkeye
    29th Jul 2015
    1:37pm
    I never thought it would happen, but I actually agree with something said by KSS.
    Adrianus
    29th Jul 2015
    2:48pm
    flanjam are you saying that it is sad for people to have choices and free will? What do you do for a hobby? Drag sea lions back into the water?
    Lookfar
    29th Jul 2015
    4:09pm
    She would be quite well looked after and happy if she joined an aboriginal community, without knowing anything about her she might prefer a dry or a wet, (i.e. no grog or grog) the wet are more challenging but always accepting.
    Very few aboriginal folk end up in nursing homes, we white people should think about this, - fairly, i.e. without prejudice.
    Lookfar
    27th Jul 2015
    12:36pm
    If, in your life, you have been opinionated, aggressive and domineering, you will have few friends in your later years, but if you have tried to understand the universe, your place in it, the meaning of life, the triviality of materialism, etc. you will never be alone as people who have not thought about these matters will seek such rarities as you.
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    4:18pm
    Wow.. I'm almost sexually aroused by that speech.... would that life were as simple...
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    5:44pm
    Fair Go ! A few I've seen lately haven't advanced far past Dragging their Knuckles along the ground ? :-)
    Supernan
    27th Jul 2015
    1:15pm
    Fully sympathise with the "socially excluded" comments. Have Rheumatoid with stiff joints & sore fingers & knees. Also, in last 6 months, Fibromyalgia. Symptoms included unable to stand perfumes/chemicals, food tastes vile, panic attacks, over reaction to loud noise & light. Talk about socially excluded : could go nowhere. Lucky I have a wonderful GP & Rheumatologist who have me on Chemo drug - working miracles !

    One way people with Rheumatoid get excluded is nothing is designed for stiff fingers & knees. I've been stuck unable to open shop doors, use pin number machines, look at clothing on tight packed racks, open sugar packages in coffee shops, hold cups with tiny handles, use big knives & forks eating out, get up into buses, & trains or lift things.

    Standing or sitting for long periods is painful. So is getting bumped by people using mobiles - was better when everyone walked on the left on walkways. Because shop aisles are now so narrow, when people turn around with huge packs on their back, they hit people. I've been injured severely like this. So get wary going into shopping centres.

    My new drug has made me realise just how limited life had become. Fully sympathise with everyone & know that I will be back there with you if this drug stops working. Surely it need not be like this - - - -
    Crashbang
    27th Jul 2015
    1:16pm
    You guys need to understand the Australian Govt, all of them, has sold us out. look up the Australian Lima Declaration. Australian Govts has pledged to spend billions to help underdeveloped countries. Slow business development in Australia & push new business off shore. They will be happy when we are all mindless drones. Pollies will still have all their lurks & perks so they don't care. The poorer we all are the more control they have. look ay all the control changes over the past 50 years.
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    4:20pm
    I see you've been reading my posts elsewhere.... welcome to the Board of Knowledge...

    I agree with every word you say. We are being reduced under the despotism of induced poverty for the many, and endless lack of hope for very, very many.

    Time to stand up and go for a new party that will take back the asylum from the lunatics...
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    5:33pm
    If they could sell the Air WE Breath They Would !! :-(
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    7:55pm
    Water supply - we'll bring in Indian companies to supply it, and they can supply water with an instant weight problem cure......

    Truly, sahib, when a Hindu is dying, the holy men often place a few drops of the waters of the sacred Ganges on his lips.

    That should help things along a little - as Pamela Anderson once said....
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    7:59pm
    That's probably what killed the Poor Hindu in the first place :_(
    Supernan
    27th Jul 2015
    1:27pm
    Reply to Kali-G. Foreign aid is the only way to stop the boats. The Chinese have been established in Aus since the Gold Rush. Agree on Aboriginals - when we bought land we had to pay for water, put in telegraph poles for power & septic tanks & pay rates for council library, council hall, etc. so why do they expect free financing for it. The answer to Refugee centres is let them out to work - after due processing. It is perfectly legal to seek asylum even by boat ! Agree about armed services - to some degree - they should be concentrated on defence only. Agree about state & fed duplication of services !

    But best way to fix deficit is make Millionaires pay tax, cut Super Concessions, concessions between subsiduary companies, Family trusts, Negative Gearing etc etc. Then we wouldnt need to cut anything !
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    1:33pm
    Yes - I don't mind Chinese .. many are outstanding people.

    Have to agree Nan - refugees could be usefully employed as part of their 'internship' to see how they stack up. I long ago advocated a massive program of solid infrastructure near the ore fields, with tertiary industry etc in an all-new and alternative energy powered environment.... and refugees working and learning a skill or trade so that even if they went back 'home' they had something of value to use to earn a dollar. Perhaps some of the aid budget could substitute for training costs there.....

    Just imagineering.....

    You thoughts on taxing where taxing is overdue are valid....
    GoldenOldie
    27th Jul 2015
    3:15pm
    As has been mentioned it is about personal choices as well as circumstances beyond our control. Soon after I retired I joined the local U3A branch. Each branch of the U3A (University of the Third Age) will offer different things. Our tag is "learning with fun & friendship" and most of the groups are shared activities from Mahjong to Scottish Country Dancing, from writing poetry to discussing current affairs. While this is not the complete answer to social isolation (no silver bullet here) for over 50s, its a start. Check out what your local branch offers e.g. http://www.nsw.u3anet.org.au/?page_id=209. U3A branches are run by those who are over 50 for the benefit of others over 50. Worth a try.

    27th Jul 2015
    3:20pm
    When you ask "Are you missing out?" In regards to attending a social gathering the answer is purely a subjective one. You are using health, wealth, knowledge and skills, and one's present job as criteria for an invite. If the host/hostess is is so baseless as to use these "qualities" for putting together a "most preferred guest list" then I would rather not attend. If I can't be judged by someone without them having to look at my birth certificate, bank account, degrees or diplomas, health record, or my ability to talk, walk, and eat with a knife and fork then they are not worth speaking with nor listening to. So....no, I'm definitely not missing out on these "gala gatherings".
    Kosmo
    27th Jul 2015
    5:33pm
    I think we should get together, make a plan, stop complaining and be positive and constructive ! We can do Better!!!
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    5:45pm
    It is not the job of government to do everything for everyone. There are senior citizens clubs, there are numerous others...people need to seek them out...do volunteer work (those who are capable of doing so).
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    7:57pm
    It's the job of government to provide sufficient so that those with disabilities etc can get about.....

    Anecdote:- Saw a man crossing the lights day before yesterday - he had obvious circulation problems with lower legs etc, and struggled.... he was on two sticks... no electric chair (let me re-phrase that) no mobility scooter...

    How much is he excluded?
    Abby
    31st Jul 2015
    8:48am
    Dunno if mobility scooter is an answer to people walking with sticks ... whilst it may seem that life would be a lot easier with the scooter it is also possible without the exercise the individual may have to have his legs amputated .... I know I would prefer to struggle with walking even if difficult.
    Jane
    27th Jul 2015
    7:22pm
    65 hear impaired and socially isolated because of it. Thank you to the government for both my hearing aids which are free except for a service fee of approx $30 per year. When I am shopping I can't understand what the person is saying to me, I know that they are talking to me but I can't understand what they are saying this is the level of my hearing impairment. Therefore I am unable to attend any group which has more than two or at most three people in it. No movies even with hearing loops so I watch DVDs at home with hearing equipment, no social,community, U3A activities or Tafe for me. When I asked Hearing Australia is there a standard sign that is worn by hearing impaired people so other people know to touch my arm before talking to me the answer was no. Yet hearing impairment isolates you to close understanding friends that will make an effort so I can understand what they are saying. Am I isolated yes and so are many other people and the population of hearing impaired is growing as the baby boomers age, yet you hear or see little said about it. Is it because we can't see it ! I would be happy if anyone has any ideas on how you mange.
    Anonymous
    27th Jul 2015
    7:59pm
    I'm with you there, Jane - I'm the one who nods or looks bewildered at social gatherings... and am know to say "WHAAT" if anyone talks to me over any background noise... about $35 a year for battery replacement and tests are free....
    Hawkeye
    29th Jul 2015
    1:56pm
    No Trebor, it's me.
    Welcome to my world.

    Except that I have to pay most of the cost for my hearing aid(s) so I only have one.
    Abby
    31st Jul 2015
    8:53am
    Spot on Hawkeye ... not all seniors have the luxury of two hearing aids ... this was yet another of things like teeth and removal of cartaracts taken away by the Gillard Government.
    thommo
    27th Jul 2015
    8:52pm
    Abbott's Govt has just changed the pension assets test (to take effect from 1.1.17) which only exacerbates the current plight of aged pensioners in Australia, all in the name of "budget austerity". What a load of BS. It is just another attack on the vulnerable section of our society, who should be getting an increase in the pension, not a reduction. This Govt is disgraceful, having promised at the last election not to change the age pension, yet they've broken that scared promise, resulting in several hundred thousand part age pensioners losing the pension after making irreversible decision to retire in 2014, only to have the rug pulled from under them by this lying mongrel government, which doesn't know what fairness is. It is a fascist Govt and they will get kicked out of office at the next election.
    particolor
    27th Jul 2015
    9:26pm
    I honestly Don't think they give a Rats as long as they get their Bosses Orders Passed before their Departure !! :-( Democracy is Long Dead in this Country and others !!
    God Save the Hairy Nosed Wombat !!
    sirmikd
    29th Jul 2015
    8:29am
    I understand that change in asset test will BENEFIT the lower income pensioners
    The use of the words "aged pensioners" does conjure up images of those struggling - but those struggling are likely to be better off.
    The "several hundred thousand' who will "lose part pension" can still live comfortably as they will have over $800,000 of assets - The govt has attempted to take from the better off and give to those less well off - so credit where it is due please !
    Lookfar
    28th Jul 2015
    8:19am
    Hi Kali-G, i think this one really needs to be put to bed, - I refer explicitly to foreign aid, often trotted out as being significant, whereas it is only about 5 billion, peanuts compared to so much else.
    Generally speaking it is also money well spent, helping the smaller countries around us develop, leading to trade and friendship, also much of the money is spent in Australia in any case. I suggest you cross that one off your list.

    28th Jul 2015
    10:24am
    Maybe we should become a communist country then we are all treated equally; except of course those at the top of the tree.
    Anonymous
    28th Jul 2015
    2:34pm
    Isn't this happening right now, for the most part?
    particolor
    28th Jul 2015
    7:10pm
    The system we have isn't quiet broken yet Radish(F) So we wont swap for Your better Model until they have Completely Destroyed Us !! :-)
    Adrianus
    28th Jul 2015
    7:17pm
    parti, I think you are right about the steps we need to take in order to adopt communism. We need to be on our knees begging for mercy.
    particolor
    28th Jul 2015
    7:32pm
    Oliver Hockey... "MORE !!.. Why you Grovelling little Wretch !"
    catsahoy
    9th Aug 2015
    8:57pm
    RADISH, CAN YOU EMAIL ME PLEASE. HAVING TERRIBLE TROUBLE GETTING ONTO THE OTHER SITE, TELLING ME MY EMAIL IS INVALID, EMAIL IS harveycat @outlook,com, ATHANKS, I NEED A MESSAGE TO DREW OR SOMEONE WHO CAN LET ME INTO THE SITE, THANKS, CATSAHOY,
    Adrianus
    28th Jul 2015
    11:16am
    I tend to agree with the statement that "income alone does not represent our life situation." Poverty and disadvantage are measured by comparisons with neighbours and can be a behavioural mind set, particularly if one gets plenty of negative reinforcement.
    particolor
    28th Jul 2015
    7:42pm
    I look at the Negativity around Me in parts here and think how Well Off I am in comparison ! :-) How anyone lives on that New Start from Inhumane Services or whatever they are calling it now is beyond Me ? :-(
    rtrish
    30th Jul 2015
    12:12pm
    As well as the factors mentioned, a compounding factor is marital breakdown - especially as many women miss out financially more than men, who have often stayed in the workplace longer, while woman have lost years of super gathering due to taking time out for children. Plus: TEETH are definitely part of 'missing out' - i.e. many people have teeth missing. They are an important part of HEALTH.
    particolor
    30th Jul 2015
    3:46pm
    Not according to Politian's ! They think TEETH are something to do with SHARKS and CROCODILES ? :-(
    Inatrance
    30th Jul 2015
    10:10pm
    Communism is alive in Australia.
    that is the real problem.
    Also the Greed of the Politician to line his own pockets before he is elected out....mongrels!!.


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