3rd Aug 2017

Older Australians say political correctness is ruining society

Leon Della Bosca

Older Australians are tired of bad mannered younger Australians, saying that political correctness and their social media obsession is ruining society.

A CoreData study commissioned by the Australian Seniors Insurance Agency (ASIA) revealed that 88 per cent of the 1000 Australians over 55 surveyed think we are too politically correct. Around 86 per cent say this need to be politically correct is ruining our society and 74 per cent saying that people who always try to be politically correct are annoying.

And, in what may be the ultimate form of protest, 45 per cent of those surveyed avoided being politically correct ‘just for the sake of it’.

The Modern Australian Manners survey also found that 85 per cent of older Australians find millennial social etiquette confusing. Complaints ranged from younger people being rude to restaurant staff, constantly looking at their phones during dinner or a conversation, and generally being ‘digitally distracted’.



According to Australian seniors, the top three etiquette rules should be:

  • treat everyone as equals
  • look out for your mates
  • remain modest and down to earth.

 

Digital distraction and over-reliance on technology were ranked high in the top five social taboos, along with racism, smoking and swearing.

But it’s the political correctness that really frustrates seniors.

"Names we have known things by all our lives, they weren't there out of disrespect or anything like that, it was just a name we knew things by," Nan Bosler, President of the Australian Seniors Computer Clubs Association, told the ABC.

"And if we have to always modify what we're saying, it's a little distracting, it's a little bit frustrating.

The survey also showed that 87 per cent of older Australians think that being too politically correct is just not authentic.

"We of course do respect other people, so we understand about political correctness,” said Ms Bosler.

"But we don't always think it's the way we want to go – we want to be true to ourselves."

Do you think Australia is too politically correct? Are you tired of watching everything you say? And when you do endeavour to comply with ‘PC rules’, do you feel insincere?

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Masonite
3rd Aug 2017
10:24am
What a beat up. If you find PC a problem, it is hardly ruining society. There are so many more difficult things to deal with than PC. Life is too short to get worked up about such minor things
Happy cyclist
3rd Aug 2017
10:48am
I agree with you Masonite, it's a beat up about nothing. Why would anyone want to use a name which insults or hurts another person just because we always used it? That's such a strange comment. PC has become a term people use to shut down comments they don't like. Haven't you noticed as far as politicians go, calling a person PC is a meaningless insult.
Ashacairns
3rd Aug 2017
10:54am
I agree with both Masonite and Happy cyclist. PC is a pejorative term used by people to excuse the fact that they are about to say something hurtful. PC is really nothing more than common sense and politeness.
jackie
3rd Aug 2017
11:30am
Masonite...Nevermind PC. I don't have a problem with it too..I am against rude obnoxious Australians. Our society has fallen with the fact that there is no longer consideration and respect toward others amongst the general public.

There are so many people that don't make way for others when walking on public footpaths these days. They expect the ongoing person to walk on the road. People push and shove to jump queues on public transport and take the seating for the frail and elderly without giving it to them.

People rest their filthy shoes on public seats without considering others. I am sick and tired of people that talk and laugh out loud in public places without considering that others may not be interested in what they have to say. Motorists that don't give way to pedestrians as if they don’t have to.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Let’s bring back respect and courtesy toward others in Australia. It amazes how those slobs ever got a job.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
3:44pm
4 snowflakes together. How PC is that.!!! Now don't be offended duckies.
JAID
3rd Aug 2017
7:05pm
:-) Yep pretty PC nimakawa.

I don't dissagree with the 4 above. Respect and decent manners are worthwhile. I doubt just about anyone who responded to the survey would either. I don't even think that people should not believe or wish to apply whatever politically correct (PC) morality may happen to imply. That is every individual's business. We can believe what we wish. Common sense and politeness are valuable commodities just as are respect and care.

I do disagree that it is a beat-up Masonite. Ashacairns, PC is much more than common sense and politeness. It is something which is trained. Our children parrot some of the stuff people refer to as PC. Mine come home everyday and issue some of it. That may eventually feed back into real understanding and respect; we can applaud that character when and if it arrives.

We espouse freedom, we are, as Australians, owners of a culture which is the result of all our individual values. If they are wonderful then we are part of it, if they are poor we share that.

To attempt inculcation of values may be part of every religious denomination and the modus operandi of many other countries but I will always disagree that it should be a basis of life in this country. The greatness out of our past which we applaud has come from individuals unafraid to talk their mind; individuals who are at the same time growing powerfully in their respect for the world around them.

At its core, tagging something as PC (where it is not PC itself) arises from the sense that agendas for changing the way we think and act are tools based upon a basic disrespect for the Australian condition; the belief that Australians are either not capable of creating valuable understandings or interactions under their own steam or that they can be hoodwinked into following thinking convenient to those pulling the strings.

I remember asking my father, who had an occupation typically very conservative, why it was that aboriginals could not vote. He said that Australia is owned by the people, it aims to be and should be the free-est country on earth; that, nobody can know that aboriginals do not live equal lives and think we are anywhere close to that objective. He also said that if most asked themselves that question seriously then this awful condition would change overnight. Half a decade later a referendum fixed at least the voting part of that inequality with record result.

With this and other areas we choose local heroes to accord these changes to. This is for political purposes also. No point in letting people think they orchestrated change out of their own understandings. The change was there long before and any valuable change will be available to us where we are simply prepared to delve below the surface for fit with the liberty, respect and sensibility which we aspire to as a nation.

The call of political correctness is a call to a herd mentality, the clarion for support without understanding and if any think that is Australian to the core, we have changed a lot further from our basic ideals, responsibity and respect than I gave us credit for.
jackie
4th Aug 2017
11:01am
niemakawa.... you sound like one of the hypocrite, morons I described...If you read correctly in the first place, instead of shooting from the hip. You would have seen I don't have a problem with PC. Political Correctness does involve respect and courtesy toward other fellow human beings of every race, sex and age.
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
1:23pm
jackie, I rest my case.
Mamacrystal
3rd Aug 2017
10:25am
"Older Australians are tired of bad mannered younger Australians, saying that political correctness and their social media obsession is ruining society." In general I agree with that. I feel we ARE losing our Aussie identity, and becoming pseudo American....majority of our youngsters seem to think that's how we should be. BTW two things that make my blood boil are those stupid back to front caps and the generic "Guys" ....I am a woman and proud of that!
Ashacairns
3rd Aug 2017
11:02am
Don't worry about Guys- a more up to date expression is "Peeps". (Ie "people"). And I suspect even that is passed.
Re back-to-back front caps: I too found them annoying until I came to Cairns. I now encourage my husband to wear his cap back to front when out fishing - to protect his neck from sunburn. He is quite happy to wear suncream on his face, but often overlooks the back of his neck when applying sun cream.
chris
3rd Aug 2017
1:07pm
How right you are. I think that is the result of the American shows on T.V. & American movies. look at the obsession with American politics at the moment.
Oldie84
3rd Aug 2017
2:50pm
So right mamacrystal. I hate these Yankee caps, particularly when worn back to front. Wear a hat, then you arte covered on all sides.
And calling everyone 'Guys". Leave it in America........
Boof
3rd Aug 2017
10:43am
P.C. is definately buggering up our society. At the risk of being P.Incorrect. it is Bullshit. Turn on the TV & you get, so called comedians, who try & be funny by using toilet humour & four letter words. Not funny, people.
What do you call a FISH with no eyes.
A FSH.
Sen.Cit.88
3rd Aug 2017
10:57am
Boof, PC is not a bugbear to me, however, I totally agree with your comments on the foul mouthed comedians. I have a pretty foul mouth myself after military and 40 years construction but, always refrained from foul language in female or children's company. I certainly do not want it in my living room and immediately change stations when one appears.
Anne Ozzie
3rd Aug 2017
11:00am
May as well ask are Australians tired of equality. Seems to me that the only ones saying 'decency' which they call 'political correctness' are the Liberal National politicians who dont stand for decency and equality for all. We might well remind them that the French revolution had a slogan 'liberty, equality, fraternity' or as most Aussies would say 'freedom, equality and mateship'. We all know what happened to the royal government of France. Let the LNP beware. Perhaps that is why they are also beating up the terrorist threat - scared the population will turn on them perhaps, and with due cause!
Ashacairns
3rd Aug 2017
11:02am
Spot on
Oldie84
3rd Aug 2017
2:52pm
Aw Anne, go back down in the hole please.....
Batara
3rd Aug 2017
7:38pm
Very well said Anne Ozzie. I do not understand the comment from Oldie83. Possibly he is an example of what is called a Troll. If I could understand the comment I could be sure.
neil
3rd Aug 2017
11:01am
This says it all

Washington, D C
September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz
From: H S Truman
Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end!

Say no more!!!!
Have an awesome day xxxx
Who really gives a ....
Theo1943
3rd Aug 2017
3:51pm
This is bulshit neil. Never happened. Nobody in 1945 said mainstream media either.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/trumanpc.asp
Pushkin2
3rd Aug 2017
4:03pm
This is false history. I'm sorry Neil but you should have checked your sources, specifically contemporary. Trump and his fellow travellers' impact on lowering the standards of virtually everything have a lot to answer for.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
4:06pm
Pushkin2. President Trump is a man of integrity no messing about with him and all the PC spiel of appeasment. Now man-up or if you are a woman tough luck.
Rainey
4th Aug 2017
1:59am
The details of who said it when may be wrong, but the quote itself is spot on!
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
5:46am
Well said Neil & Rainey....Trump was voted in b/c he's not PC. Real honesty offered in kindness/humour, which used to be appreciated & often enjoyed (Comedians eg: Paul Hogan) is now lost. Throwing heaps of "verbal no-goes" all over us just in case offend someone w/o a sense of humour weakens our kids. They'll eventually encounter it & not know how to deal with it as we did back in the Happy Days. Pollies need to lighten up, not be so damn scared of the number of their votes/approval & fookin' stop trying to gag us.
Didee51
3rd Aug 2017
11:02am
I am sick and tired of all the things I love being changed due to PC and it's not helping society one bit, especially changing children's books and songs that have been that way forever. Golliwogs because it's racial and the list goes on. Even some of the rhmes we played with our children on their fingers and toes are considered politically incorrect. As kids we never even thought of whether characters were gay or multicultural, they were just fantasy characters and we accepted them as they were. Adults are reading things into children's minds and activities. If you want to be PC do something about the language in the modern day cartoons and the fact the word "f..k is almost used like punctuation. All that aside put this energy into helping other people less fortunate than yourself and reinvent compassion.
Travelling Man
3rd Aug 2017
12:01pm
You're so right, Didee51, (I nearly said correct!). Our unique and larrikin Aussie culture is constantly being undermined by ultra-left, iconoclastic organisations like the ABC and the brain-dead Greens along with their work-shy, zombie cohorts. If this keeps up we'll all look like stiff upper-lip Poms!
Travelling Man
3rd Aug 2017
1:21pm
I forgot to mention another of the usual suspects, Get Up. The directors of this ubiquitous, cacophonous rabble appear to be former patients of Broadmoor-like institutions whose lobotomies have disastrously malfunctioned!
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
6:25am
Didee51....the "f" word is mostly used for emphasis when no other is sufficient/effective. My highly respected one-armed Biology Prof @ Uni used it often when noticed intelligence was substituted with laziness many yrs ago. It worked. He would never have accepted PC & it's "mollycoddling" affect on future generations. Check your Macquarie/Webster & Oxford dictionaries....dozens of now "not acceptable" words will still be in 'em. Are we raising a generation of wimps? Hope not, life's a roller-coast ride.
Ted Wards
3rd Aug 2017
11:27am
1000 Australians out of 22 million is not and would never be considered enough to draw conclusions. I think its time that these studies are seen for what they are. Filling blank pages when nothing else is happening.
Marj
3rd Aug 2017
11:38am
Political correctness: "the avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."

This older Australian doesn't think that's annoying.
Chat
3rd Aug 2017
1:33pm
The question here is "perceived" by whom?
That is where the problem with Political Correctness causes so much angst. What one person might perceive to insult etc another might just shrug it off as good humour.
dougie
3rd Aug 2017
4:41pm
Marj,
You are so right,however this should be a two way street which it isn't at Present.
PC is just good manners and empathy for your fellow man. The need for PC relates to those groups who do not consider another's feelings or standards, who think that it is smart to be uncouth and those who deliberately use filthy language.
The TV stations should be judged on the standards that they produce so called entertainment for the masses.
I believe that if a straw poll was held amongst the Vox Populi then it would seem that most people are turned off by filth and bad language.
And whats more my friends I have worked as a wool loader - a bagged wheat lumper - A railway shunter and many other so called rough neck jobs where swearing is equal to any bullockies. Do I swear around my wife and daughters and other people - No!
Do I swear and use filthy language - No!
Why not you may ask and the answer is simply that "My parents taught me to respect others".
No one seems to teach respect these days.
Janran
3rd Aug 2017
4:53pm
I agree with you, Marj.
I will confess to using very colourful and occasionally un-PC language at home, but only with my trusted partner and just "for fun". I would be mortified if other people copped an earful.
The trouble is, Chat, at a social event with good friends (and a few drinks under my belt), in a joking way I let slip a slightly racist comment. It has taught me that un-PC jokes are definitely NOT FUNNY.
I don't do it at home any more, either. Yep, I've had to curb my behaviour and it is definitely worth the trouble. People who don't want to change are simply lazy, ignorant or arrogant.
If you are white, male and privaledged you will not "perceive" a problem because you're never at the receiving end of the insults. It's easy to have a "sticks and stones won't hurt me" attitude, when you are born with superiority of status.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
4:57pm
Jabran the PC brigade will be handing you a gold medal for your stupidity. Catchy catchy monkey.
Rae
3rd Aug 2017
5:36pm
Is it PC to make racist and sexist remarks because whites and males are okay targets? I don't think so. Who are the privileged? Smart people, people with good families, minefield Janran.

Gold Medal right there.

And let's stop making bad remarks about peoples IQ levels while we are ahead.
Rainey
4th Aug 2017
2:07am
''People who don't want to change are simply lazy, ignorant or arrogant.
If you are white, male and privaledged (sic) you will not "perceive" a problem because you're never at the receiving end of the insults. It's easy to have a "sticks and stones won't hurt me" attitude, when you are born with superiority of status.''

WOW, Janran! That's about as presumptuous and inaccurate as it gets. And definitely NOT politically correct (nor correct factually or in any other sense!).

Firstly, being white and male does not equate to privilege, Janran. Nor does it insulate you from insults, even if you are also ''privileged'' - as is proven by your accusation of being ''lazy, ignorant or arrogant''.

And secondly, you are being thoroughly RUDE, if not politically incorrect, in claiming that ''people who don't want to change are simply lazy, ignorant or arrogant''. It's entirely possible that people resist certain changes because they are bad for society. Not all change is good. It's also possible that people resist change because they lack the strength and resources to cope with it. Denigrating them for that is every bit as bad as denigrating them for their race, religion or sexual preferences. In fact, it's just plain intolerant and nasty!
DrPolymath
3rd Aug 2017
12:11pm
Political correctness is not ruining our society. It HAS ALREADY ruined our society! An example is its gagging of well-deserved criticism of, say, Islam and Islamic immigration. I refuse to be so gagged.
trood
3rd Aug 2017
12:40pm
Spot on Dr!
GrandmaKathleen22
3rd Aug 2017
1:11pm
That has nothing to do with political correctness! Nothing excuses selecting a group of people to vent our anger on whether they be Jews or Muslims or homosexuals, etc.
Draganotz
3rd Aug 2017
5:12pm
Yep, DrPolymath, you nailed it.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
5:27pm
GrandmaK, the venting comes from the the last 2 groups you have mentioned. Their way or nothing. But of course the PC brigade spout their nonsense that we must be culturally sensitive. Whites and heterosexuals not included. Codswallop.

In for a penny in for a pound, People need to toughen and not be expected to be protected all the time.
Batara
3rd Aug 2017
8:11pm
GrandmaKathleen, you are dead right, but unlikely to have any success convincing the people posting hatred that they are lacking in societal capacity. They have been dog whistled and propagandised by the leaders of the pack so that the Australian way of life and the concern for a fair go has been lost. As regards Islam, the terrorists have achieved one of their objectives by positioning Islam and Western society as enemies.
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
6:45am
So correct DrP...the truth is the truth, even if perceived as politically incorrect by some. I also will not be gagged, especially by our current self-serving Pollies.
bandy
3rd Aug 2017
12:22pm
I seems to me in my observations that most parents cant say no or correct their children so that they show more curtsy to others it all starts at home
Troubadour
3rd Aug 2017
2:07pm
Too true. Sadly we have foul mouthed and rude parents bringing up kids, and the kids think this is the 'norm'
In the Shopping Centre the other day - 3 women with
several young kids with them were smoking and in discussion and the language was awful, and the young kids standing there listening = not good at all for our future society.
I cringe sometimes when picking my grand kids up from School at how some of the mums/dads talk in front of everyone's kids.
Troubadour
3rd Aug 2017
2:07pm
Too true. Sadly we have foul mouthed and rude parents bringing up kids, and the kids think this is the 'norm'
In the Shopping Centre the other day - 3 women with
several young kids with them were smoking and in discussion and the language was awful, and the young kids standing there listening = not good at all for our future society.
I cringe sometimes when picking my grand kids up from School at how some of the mums/dads talk in front of everyone's kids.
Troubadour
3rd Aug 2017
2:07pm
Too true. Sadly we have foul mouthed and rude parents bringing up kids, and the kids think this is the 'norm'
In the Shopping Centre the other day - 3 women with
several young kids with them were smoking and in discussion and the language was awful, and the young kids standing there listening = not good at all for our future society.
I cringe sometimes when picking my grand kids up from School at how some of the mums/dads talk in front of everyone's kids.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
3:52pm
That's plain bad manners nothing to do with PC
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
6:50am
Huge generalization bandy....sorry to hear you're mixing with the wrong ppl.
Old Man
3rd Aug 2017
12:31pm
Yes, PC is changing our way of life and not for the better. If a crime is committed, the media dances around the description by leaving out skin colour, ethnic type or distinctive clothing that is specific to a race. We then finish up looking for a tall/short, man/woman, hair colour not given, pale skinned/dark skinned person. Back before PC, the description would be more precise.

What is needed is not PC but respect for one another. Respect is a two way street and to get it you must both earn it and give it in return. If I am not respected by a group of people then I will find it extremely hard to give respect. Why am I being asked to be nice to people who treat me like I am not there, people who won't respect our way of life and people who are prepared to break our laws.
KSS
3rd Aug 2017
1:19pm
" leaving out skin colour, ethnic type or distinctive clothing that is specific to a race. We then finish up looking for a tall/short, man/woman, hair colour not given, pale skinned/dark skinned person"

Not quite Old Man, we are looking for a "tall/short, man/woman/gender fluid/gender questioning/transgender/non-binary/queer trans/bi-gender/a-gender/gender neutral/intersex/gender queer, hair colour not given, pale skinned/dark skinned person."
Old Man
3rd Aug 2017
3:50pm
Thanks KSS, you have made me laugh and you are also right on the money.
floss
3rd Aug 2017
12:41pm
Dr Polymath you get our yea for the day.
Old Geezer
3rd Aug 2017
1:00pm
The worst have to be old people who think the world revolves around them and them only. Change happens so get used to it.
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
7:01am
I'd be classified as "old people" in your eyes Old Geezer....but welcome productive/helpful change & no delusions of grandeur re "the world revolving ard me." U r such a sh*t stirrer, always have & always will be. Get off your high-horse before u fall off, or better still, someone u love "pushes" u off with just hurt to your sad, huge ego.
Raphael
3rd Aug 2017
1:03pm
It's not PC to criticize PC
So shut the f&ck up
Fe
3rd Aug 2017
1:09pm
I agree that P.C. is destroying modern society. I utterly refuse to use any PC terms. I also refuse to use the re-named place names. Ayers Rock will always be Ayers Rock. The most annoying thing is actresses being refered to as actors - the shape of the body dictates the noun to be used.
Bow Maker
3rd Aug 2017
1:22pm
As the late Bill Leak said PC is a poison, when consumed you lose your sense of humor and the ability to laugh.
CHARLIE
3rd Aug 2017
1:22pm
Yes to all 3 questions
Julian
3rd Aug 2017
1:30pm
Isn't it ironic that the younger generations are pushing the PC BS, yet have been the main offenders when it comes to rudeness?!
Suze
4th Aug 2017
4:04pm
Spot on Julian
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
4:31pm
They are misguided and have ben brainwashed from a young age. Maybe one day they will wake from their stupor. Time is running out.
plodder
3rd Aug 2017
1:33pm
so lets ask for legislation on how seriously we should take PC and how is it defined.
then perhaps form a dept with a gender neutral, brain neutral, head who can tell us how to detect and comply with PC guidelines.
Julian
3rd Aug 2017
1:40pm
Easy Jackie. I walk straight into those who won't shift, especially when they are hogging the full width of the path. If they complain then I reply that they saw me and should show some courtesy
billy boy
3rd Aug 2017
1:42pm
absolutely, within context and reason ;)
Sasquatch
3rd Aug 2017
2:49pm
Political Correctness is far more serious than simply changing our use of certain language and avoiding the hurt of other people's sensitivities.It's origins date back to WW1 when certain marxists set out to undermine western society and bring in a "socialist paradise".What a contradiction in terms that is-more like a hell on earth.To find out more,search YouTube for The History Of Political Correctness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs
Ella
3rd Aug 2017
2:54pm
Every older generation likes to blame the younger generation for changes they don't like. The truth is that old people don't want their comfortable existence changed but challenges and changes that provoke new thought must happen. Governments legislate in response to liability issues. The main problems are lack of manners and consideration in all age groups and people not being accountable for their actions.
Oldie84
3rd Aug 2017
3:00pm
Well I thought PC was easy to define but must admit that after reading so many viewpoints and opinions of what it is I have changed my mind. It seems far more complicated than I thought. And there I was thinking that if I can express a different opinion without being rude and nasty it should be all that was needed. Alas, it seems not to be so.
ccfandango
3rd Aug 2017
3:37pm
Better go back down the hole with Anne then.
Oldie84
3rd Aug 2017
3:43pm
But I said please.....
Oldie84
3rd Aug 2017
3:44pm
But I said please.....
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
3:49pm
For me this article sums up the stupitidy of PC .
I am not PC in any manner, as many PC terms and phrases banded about are a means of suppressing free speech. People who get offended easily need therapy not PC nonsense. That’s the long and short of it . Get a life and call it as it is.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/cancer-of-political-correctness-corrodes-societys-very-fabric/news-story/b3abfb13a3e05e72f930f65b95321692
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
7:07am
Finally, some not so "common" sense.
Ginaus
3rd Aug 2017
4:05pm
Yes, political correctness has fucked us up already; cant deal with the more difficult things because PC doesn't allow you to say and do anything... so there....
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
4:13pm
People fail at many things but today using the word fail in some quarters is too offensive for the poor darlings. I have seen a PC phrase for such situations = Achieve a deficiency which is all the rage at the moment. PC advocates are mental retards IMO.

You win or lose simple as that.
THE FORGOTTEN
3rd Aug 2017
4:06pm
Being PC has become an issue of not offending those who we always have 'had a go at',which has been part of our Australian Culture since Captain Cook and settlement. The 'LOUD minority' of Illegal Immigrants,Abo's,homosexuals and other self interest groups have made all Government politicians worried about retaining their cushy jobs and more voter conscious of minorities.It's the old 'squeeky wheel gets the grease' factor. I see it as a means of ' making the 'SILENT majority' MORE afraid to demonstrate their democratic rights to speak openly and freely. George Bush (as well as Howard and Blair) used false information tactic to 'make the voters scared' enough, of terrorism to get re elected.
Even the USA citizens have more freedom of speech than we in Australia,and it is getting worse. (Eg. Homosexuals have been able to 'soften' the word Homosexual to 'GAYS' (( a word we are no longer able to use in it's true meaning of being happy)) .Now it has become worse, as Homosexual/GAY and other unnatural deviate practices have changed to LBXYZ ?, and a new letter seems to be added every few months.
It seems to me that at least the last 2 generations have expected that the 'baby boomers' owe them a living. Their attitude is that 'baby boomers' have too much, and are disadvantaging them. It's way past time for them to realise that we worked hard for what we have,and didn't spend wastefully, but saved for our retirement. We brought them up through tough times,and sacrificed so that they would have an easier life. They refuse to explore what life was like in our time,but use a well worn excuse 'but it is different now'.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
4:19pm
The colloquial term for Homos is "poof/queer" don't here it much these days. The latest trend is "Cultural appropriation" how non-sensical is that. These PC advocates need a good kick up the proverbial to knock some sense into their thick skulls.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
4:31pm
hear not here although I do not want them here.
mikecrook
3rd Aug 2017
4:07pm
In the nineteen eighties, there was a movement towards justice and fairness in our society, this included such things as equal employment opportunity for women, disabled, indigenous and the non english speaking. At the same time Industrial democracy in the workplace and an increased focus on workplace health and safety emerged as well as the realisation that women especially needed to be empowered. Those who disaproved of this movement, the wasps, gave the movement a name, political correctness, and destroyed the movement and took our society back to the fifties.
Charlie
3rd Aug 2017
4:29pm
I thought it was the other way around..

That the recent wave of political correctness was preventing the oldies from telling the plain truth about things. These things have been in the news for a couple of years like, confusion about, what is racist behaviour in regard to Aboriginals and Muslims and refugees? what is equality in "marriage" regarding the opposite of what we are accustomed to (same sex)?

The strict idealistic ideas about political correctness are the invention of a younger generation just moved up into a position of power, not the older generation, from where I stand.
*Loloften*
15th Aug 2017
7:14am
Agree Charlie
Pamiea
3rd Aug 2017
4:46pm
I miss calling Blackboys by the name I've known for years and must call them grass trees. Stupidity at its worst. I remember saying "we are happy little vegemites" and was told you cant say that because its black! Stupidity again! Politically correct is an insult because who has respect for polticians? Certainly not I.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
4:55pm
It is not illegal to call them blackboys or use the saying ...... vegimites. Anyone who becomes offended needs medical help.
Draganotz
3rd Aug 2017
5:16pm
Political correctness comes in many flavours, some of it benign, some humorous but most of it is seriously insidious. Where there is smoke there is fire...if this question is being asked, there is a good chance that yes, PC is screwing up our society.
motaleon
3rd Aug 2017
5:48pm
Wrong, wrong,wrong.This matter is no beat up. Political correctness will see the end of democracy. It is not democratic for the majority to give way to the minority.The public look like losing the promised plebiscite on same sex "marriage". The gays in parliament and their PC supporters are afraid of the outcome of a plebiscite. They won't get much change from the Catholics, the Muslims, and the married couples who would prefer to see the gays find another name for their permanent relationship. Gays? They have even highjacked a word which used to mean something different but nobody dare not use it it that context nowadays.
JAID
3rd Aug 2017
7:32pm
I suspect that a plebiscite may very well support same sex union Motaleon.

It seems to me that liberty demands it and that Australians faced with the need to seriously consider the matter would appreciate that it their paramount duty regardless of whatever their personal opinions is to protect and extend liberty.

Having raved all that, it has never made sense to me that the gay lobby seek to shoe horn in on a term which means something particular to various groups and where same sex union is not part of that definition. If a church wants to call marriage something between a man and a woman that can be respected by simply changing the civil union term so that it is not "marriage"

Gays can be "wed" have "weddings" by "civil union" or for that matter by any church comfortable with the union. The equality of union is the matter which is pertinent to a society which values liberty and equality, time will solve the definitions.
Watto
3rd Aug 2017
6:20pm
Best one I heard was from a real Feminazi on ABC 3 saying the Chinese rocket being launched was "Unpersonned"
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
6:39pm
Feminazi what a bunch of misfits if there ever there was one. Man hating bigots of the first degree.
ccfandango
3rd Aug 2017
8:01pm
Is n't ABC 3 the kids primary school channel? Explains a bit....
Wheel
3rd Aug 2017
6:29pm
Yes
Travellersjoy
3rd Aug 2017
7:34pm
No I don't think Australia is too PC. I would even like a bit more, like where I don't get called bitch, or similar because some male doesn't like women. I would also like to see more respect paid to Indigenous people.
The strong the powerful and the privileged have got away with all sorts of abuse of'lesser' people for quite long enough. PC is their retort when one of the underlings demands respect.
Batara
3rd Aug 2017
7:40pm
I wonder if the term was defined before the people were asked to comment. It seems from the comments on this article there is confusion over the meaning of the term "political correctness".
Bow Maker
3rd Aug 2017
7:47pm
Again I stress PC is not a poison we need to take.
priscillia
3rd Aug 2017
8:17pm
PC covers many aspects of our life and like most issues, some is useful and some is not. I am pleased we are more aware of others feelings and now can acnowledge the lack of respect shown to others over the years. Unfortunately soome older australians don't want to change and continue to use derogatoryterms about ther people. 1000 people surveyed is not enough to give a true reading on PC and what a shame YourLifeChoices have run with it - is this an attempt to beat it up??? Too many older people fail to remember how they were and how they behaved when they were young and it must be great to throw the first stone - I wouldn't know. The young people i know work hard, are concerned about the planet and others. Lucky the people who can afford to go to dinner and then critise young people being digital: that is irony in case any of the people survied are reading this.
MICK
3rd Aug 2017
8:51pm
When you get onto a public website and comment you can see the political correctness shine through. Say you disagree with homosexual marriage and you get some of the vilest comments imaginable and it does not stop there.
Boomers may not always agree but there is a degree of verbal control ans respect even in the depths of disagreement.
ccfandango
3rd Aug 2017
9:11pm
Unfortunately the great unwashed are the same on all public websites baby boomers or older makes little difference just some of the built in biases are different neither show much control or respect. Mind you don't see anyone being given too much grief for disagreeing with homosexual marriage on this particular thread - though there are certainly a few against it.
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
12:33am
Freedom of religion and beliefs does not apply to all religions in this Country. One point mentioned by Mick is homosexual marriage. Only a month or so ago an Australian tennis icon Margaret Court, a Christian, spoke gave her views on Gay Marriage. There was ""öutrage"amongst the gay community and its supporters even calling for the Margaret Court Arena in Melbourne Park be re-named. Some tennis "greats" suggested that people should boycott the 2018 Australian open if their demands were not met. Not very tolerant by the gays. It must be their way or nothing. They do not understand the concept of compromise.

A plebiscite is the only fair way to close this issue. Whatever the result it must be accepted by all even if some disagree with the democratic vote. I oppose the use of the word marriage for such relationships but will abide by the outcome of a Plebiscite. But will the Liberal left if the result is not to their liking, I suspect not.
niemakawa
3rd Aug 2017
10:35pm
PC should be condemned to the rubbush tip, where it belongs. It has no place in a democracy.
Sau
3rd Aug 2017
11:31pm
I agree with Masonite and Happy Cyclist and anyone who thinks that political correctness is a phrase for being considerate (although it's often used pejoratively). For example, I wouldn't use the word "Abo" because indigenous people find it insulting and to suggest that not using it makes one feel insincere is rubbish and racist.
Rainey
4th Aug 2017
1:57am
It's a question of degrees. PC says you can't call an Italian ''woggie'', but my Italian mates have always been ''woggie'' and love it. It's a term of affection. PC dictates that calling someone ''black fella'' is insulting, but that's precisely what my Aboriginal relative prefers to be called. Personally, I think PC has gone way over the top. It's dictating on issues that go way beyond courtesy and consideration.
Rainey
4th Aug 2017
2:11am
Political correctness is the flawed notion that what you deem to be ''acceptably polite and respectful'' is a standard that all should adopt, but nobody else is entitled to an opinion or to have their preferences respected. PC seeks to dictate social standards, without any concessions to reality and common sense.
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
5:31am
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/03/sweden-army-exists-defend-gay-rights/

An interesting article . Make what you will of it. There will be conflicting views of course. It seems Australia is heading in the same direction as there are parallels .
Boof
4th Aug 2017
9:45am
My great + Uncle was eaten by "blacks" at West Maitland a few years ago, but we are not allowed to say that he was. pC.. Of course some tribes of aborigines were canibals. Why try & hide the truth. If the cap fits. Wear it. It doesn't mean they are going to eat us now. BTW. The men at the time from West rode to their camp & shot about 20 of them, for the deed.
Oldie84
4th Aug 2017
12:00pm
Why can't we have a thumbs-up and a thumbs-down button please. It would make things just so much simpler. Powers that be please give it some thought.
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
2:41pm
It has its merits, but then people may refrain from making their own comments.
Oldie84
4th Aug 2017
5:04pm
I could live with that Niemakawa. :-)
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
2:42pm
Another fine example of the madness of PC.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4759510/National-Trust-tells-workers-wear-pride-badge-face-ban.html
Suze
4th Aug 2017
4:11pm
Political correctness and ‘multiculturalism’ has produced 55 ‘no-go’ zones in Sweden that are essentially Muslim micro-states where sharia law rules.

Here’s the story from Investor’s Business Daily:

…There are Muslim enclaves where postal, fire and other essential services — even police officers themselves —require police protection.

A police report released last month identifies 55 of these "no-go zones" in Sweden. These zones are similar to others that have popped up in Europe in recent years. They formed as large Muslim populations emigrating to politically correct and tolerant European states refuse to assimilate and set up virtual states within a state where the authorities fear to tread.

Soeren Kern of the Hudson Institute has documented the proliferation of these zones. They are de facto Muslim micro-states under Shariah law that reject Western values, society and legal systems. In these districts non-Muslims are expected to conform to the dictates of fundamentalist Islam or face violent consequences. …

Muslim immigration to Sweden has been fostered by an open-border asylum policy.
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
6:17pm
And the PC Feminazi who run Sweden are aiding and abetting the destruction of Sweden. Australia heading in the same direction, yet our political elite ignore the warning signs. The reason being is that this is what they want for Australia. It is gaining momentum as I write.

I will always speak out against PC it has no place in a democracy.
niemakawa
4th Aug 2017
6:36pm
I have pre-ordered this book"" No Go Zones" and the one by Tommy Robinson is on my wish list. I suspect it has been moth-balled as I have tried to order on-line fom several stores but all say it is unavailable at the moment.

I am sure the PC lobbyisst will be following this closely to find some way to have it banned in Australia. Get it while you can.



A Muslim news website has demanded that online retailer Amazon remove Breitbart London editor-in-chief Raheem Kassam’s forthcoming book No Go Zones: How Sharia Law Is Coming to a Neighborhood Near You from its virtual shelves, branding it “Islamophobic hate”.
The Muslim Vibe targeted Kassam’s book alongside a self-published work by Rebel Media contributor Tommy Robinson.

The site, which has links to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), branded the as-yet-unreleased work a “fear mongering book… which claims Muslims are a growing serious cultural and political threat who want to impose ‘Sharia Law’ in Western countries”.

CAIR has been declared a terrorist organization by the United Arab Emirates, and was named by U.S. federal prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror-funding operation.
*Loloften*
11th Aug 2017
6:38am
PC, like many things inflicted on us now, is a tribute to dishonesty. We can no longer tell the truth eg: if someone asks us if they're fat, we can't call 'em fat even if they know they are. The only good thing abt Trump is that he's not into PC, says what he thinks no matter what - living in hope he doesn't cause WW111?! Wish our weak Pollies were so honest, all too scared to lose or not to lose b/c...they have heaps to lose compared to most of us


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