PM falls in polls

It’s been a tough first week in Parliament for the Prime Minister.

federal politics, polls, preferred leader, tony abbott, malcolm turnbull

It’s been a tough first week in Parliament after the winter break for the Prime Minister and the latest polls won’t do much to ease the pressure.

According to the latest Fairfax-Ipsos poll of 1402 respondents taken between 13 and 15 August, should a federal election have been held at the weekend, we would be seeing a change in government, with a 7.5 per cent swing in voters’ preferences. This would result in a loss of 36 seats for the Coalition. In order to form a majority government, Labor need only to secure 21 seats from the Coalition, so 36 would result in a landslide victory.  In the two party preferred vote of 46/54, the Government is eight per cent behind the ALP. In terms of a primary vote, the Government only has a marginal buffer of two per cent above Labor’s 36 per cent. At 38 per cent, this is also eight per cent below the 46 per cent of the primary vote it secured in the last election.

When polled on individual leaders, neither Tony Abbott nor Bill Shorten have improved their popularity. Mr Abbott has a disapproval rating of 59 per cent and an approval rating of only 35 per cent. And, while Bill Shorten has increased his approval rating by four per cent to 39 per cent, his disapproval rating is 49 per cent.

As the government continues to hit the wrong note with the general public on policies concerning same-sex marriage and global warming, bickering within the Liberal Party isn’t helping to steady the ship. The solution for the Coalition could lie in a change of leadership. Malcolm Turnbull scored 41 per cent of the vote on a preferred Liberal leader, with Julie Bishop on 23 per cent and Tony Abbott on 15 per cent.

There is some good news for Tony Abbott; his popularity remains intact with Coalition voters. The PM has 33 per cent of the vote for preferred leader, with Mr Turnbull on 25 per cent and Ms Bishop on 23 per cent. For those interested, Treasurer Joe Hockey only scored six per cent of the vote for preferred leader.

Is it time for a change at the top? Or should Tony Abbott take heart from the Coalition voters and hold his line? Why do you think Malcolm Turnbull is consistently preferred as Liberal leader amongst the electorate at large, but not coalition voters?

Read more at the Sydney Morning Herald.





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    pate
    17th Aug 2015
    10:12am
    Nothing will be finlised anyway Tony Abbott has got into the hait of saying we will deL WITH THAT IN TE NEXT Prliament in other words if you expec us to make a decision you are going to be sorry becUSE WE ain't about to make you hate us anymore.
    Ming
    17th Aug 2015
    10:24am
    Looks like the article on benefits has disappeared, WHY?
    Debbie McTaggart
    17th Aug 2015
    12:36pm
    Good afternoon Ming, to which article are you referring?
    Anonymous
    17th Aug 2015
    12:57pm
    Ming, all benefits have been cancelled until morale improves.
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    4:42pm
    Amendment.. All benefits will continue as per Entitlement !!
    nena
    17th Aug 2015
    11:17am
    The coalition voters prefer TA because he is malleable therefore his voters are always hoping. MT, on the other hand, is not, he has his convictions and stick to them. It is way the electorate at large prefer MT, MT would do a much better PM.
    Anonymous
    17th Aug 2015
    12:59pm
    Malleable just like Silly Putty.
    Young Simmo
    17th Aug 2015
    11:47am
    I would like to see a lot more open discussion on what the blood suckers get for nothing including their families. If the Press finish their job, instead of half doing it we would all be better off. There must be a lot more than Bronnie and Burke that is screwing us for half our pension.
    tia-maria
    17th Aug 2015
    4:06pm
    I like to see that Bronwyn Bishop receive the same punishment from PM Abbott..........that he done to Pauline Hanson four years jail..........for a lesser crime..............
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    4:47pm
    Its not the Softness of the Crime, But the Savagery of the Judge and their Leaning !! :-(
    Batara
    17th Aug 2015
    12:18pm
    Tony would be foolish to get the message that Coalition voters like him so no need to worry. If he wants to win a second term he needs the middle ground to vote for him.
    Chances of that? Akin to the chances a snowball might survive in Hades. Call an electipm
    niemakawa
    17th Aug 2015
    8:03pm
    The election will be next year, so why the hurry.!
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    8:42pm
    And plenty of time for the media to turn around and groom the public again.
    niemakawa
    17th Aug 2015
    8:47pm
    I hope people can make up their own minds as voters are adults. Nothing to do with grooming
    Adrianus
    18th Aug 2015
    11:33am
    Yes mick all your hard work will be in vain as we all get regroomed. ha ha ha!!
    MICK
    19th Aug 2015
    9:34am
    I was just alluding to the snow job done on voters before the last election. The current government has received the attacks they deserve but this may well change with a year to go until the next election.
    dougie
    17th Aug 2015
    1:43pm
    Tony Abbott should hold his line. Whilst this may not be the best Government that we have ever had I believe that they are trying to achieve things to benefit the country and have done so in several cases. I believe that the decision to go to the people on Gay Marriage is a correct one and something that I have written on in this site over some weeks. We as the public should make this decision and it should then be binding on the Government of both persuasions to accept the will of the people not just the strident calls of a few in parliament.
    As to the bias or legality of the Royal Commissioner, I feel that he has the duty and the right to see this matter through. The unions have already been demonstrated to to have had a rotten core in some. These powerful unions need to be recognised and routed out of any power within industry. I also believe that the comments made by Tony Burke on the floor of parliament if made outside the cowards castle of parliament could lead to a charge being laid against him under the relevant act governing royal commissions. Do those who protest too much do so to protect themselves or at the very least those that support them. I really do not know and for this reason the Royal Commission must proceed to a definitive answer so that we the people can make our own judgement on the matter and whats more be fully informed to do so.
    And for those who will accuse me of bias read my previous postings and understand that I do not support either party or politics just clean and open discussion on all matters.
    Anonymous
    17th Aug 2015
    1:57pm
    Well said dougie
    tia-maria
    17th Aug 2015
    4:07pm
    dougie that your opinion on PM Abbott............
    dougie
    17th Aug 2015
    4:23pm
    Tia -maria,
    Please read again, I offered no opinion on Tony Abbot just an opinion on the Government of the day. Unlike some I am not strident in either condemnation or praise for either of our political leaders as I do not believe that this is my right. Political leaders are what they are and will be judged by the community at large in an election, however I do feel able to comment on matters before the parliament or in the public arena.
    Pablo
    17th Aug 2015
    4:24pm
    Totally agree with you dougie ... on all counts.
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    5:07pm
    Can I skip along behind Here ! :-)
    tia-maria
    17th Aug 2015
    5:54pm
    OH Dougie you say mate that Abbott trying to do a good job???????to benefit our country again I rest my case I don't think so
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    8:45pm
    It appears that this government has been "judged" from day 1 dougie. Show me one good thing they have done and I'll show you vested interests.....although in all fairness I would agree on ending the boat arrivals which were costing every one of us so dearly.
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    8:55pm
    OMG !! :-( Want an education Mick ? Go to You/Tube and watch
    Muslims riot in Paris, France. Type that in Google if you cant find it ! :-(
    niemakawa
    17th Aug 2015
    9:04pm
    Particolor, watched the video. But still France, Germany and the UK Governments still encourage them to come to their Countries. Where is the sense in that. Will Australia face the same problem? Maybe maybe not, but why take the chance.
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    9:23pm
    What a disgusting display of "The Religion of Peace" :-( :-( I have no idea why they have Police in those Country's ???
    Strummer
    18th Aug 2015
    8:46am
    I don't think this is the worst government we've ever had but I do think this is the worst P.M. we've ever had. "Captain's calls" are killing us!
    Kaz
    18th Aug 2015
    8:52am
    Oh dougie you did make me laugh - some may think well written, but I'm sorry it wasn't well thought!
    Anonymous
    20th Aug 2015
    10:32am
    There are more important things to the majority of Australians than legislation for Gay marriage.
    I am more concerned with the economy, getting this debt down and getting people in jobs.
    Agree with Strummer's comment.
    Adrianus
    20th Aug 2015
    12:06pm
    dougie, this government has done a lot of good things in 2 years. I see the stopping of the forced immigration (boat people) and the FTA's as their two main triumphs. These two achievements were simply too difficult for the previous government. In fact they said it could not be done!
    The Abbott government is doing what we would expect from a good government. "Keeping us safe" and "improving the economy" which will in turn provide us with job security. A strong economy underpins social infrastructure. Good social infrastructure is a result of having a strong economy.

    I'll tell you something about Abbott for mick and the rest of you knockers.
    I have employed hundreds of people during my working life and many of them I employed not because I liked them but based on my assessment of their ability to succeed at the job. I judge Abbott on his ability to get the job done and his ability to do what he says he will do. And based on this alone in my book he is head and shoulders above the alternatives.
    Looby
    22nd Aug 2015
    8:09pm
    Well said Dougie
    Pollyanna
    17th Aug 2015
    2:29pm
    Polls are wrong so many times. If the key issue is gay marriage our country is in a very sorry state. Look at the main issues in Australia. Health, education, So called refugees, the unemployment and crime. You can not put all these faults on Tony Abbott when all the opposition wants to do is get Gay marriage regulated. If that is all this country is worried about have a referendum now and get on with the key issues. Why not look at the ex pollies perks and take them away. Like anyone else who loses a job. That is it. Why should we be paying for offices, desks, secretaries etc, etc. We could be saving billions. Wake up Australia
    Anonymous
    17th Aug 2015
    2:45pm
    This gay marriage crap is at the forefront of both party's "things to do" list because it is one which will be eventually be put to the vote of the public - if ever. It is also a issue which is hit back and forth like a tennis ball because all the other issues, which are very serious in comparison, are too hot, controversial, and difficult to handle by either party. This gay marriage caper is also a vote getter if handled (NOT resolved) properly and no ones' gay little feet are trod upon. We all know the figure of 72% of people in favour of gay marriage is an overblown and unsubstantiated one which probably wouldn't even be that high in San Francisco. So, let's quit kidding ourselves and give one another heterosexual hugs and hope for an early election without lies.
    Pablo
    17th Aug 2015
    4:29pm
    With all of the problems we have in this country (most of which have been left by the ALP), the issue of gay marriage is, or should be, at the very bottom of the list. It is just not important when compared with the budget deficit, unemployment, terrorism and safety of Australians at home, Union corruption, ... and the list goes on and on.
    dougie
    17th Aug 2015
    4:32pm
    If I was an organisation looking to get a favourable result on any survey, I would know which area to poll. As such I take no notice of poll results as they can be misdirected and set a focus on a particular demographic to achieve a required result. Sorry pollsters but I am not able to believe that you are totally honest in your presentation. Internal polling by political parties may or may not provide more definitive results. These can be skewed by those involved polling to suit their long term or short term aims.
    The answer is "you make up your mind and change it to suit the information that you have available to you. " This way you will at least have a say in your personal poll.
    It is strange that in all of the years that I have lived I have only been contacted once by pollsters and then they did not want to hear what I had to say because it was not aligned to their polling wants.
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    8:47pm
    Polls by their very nature rely on 'sampling'. This requires the sample to be representative of the wider population, a sometimes difficult thing to get. And then of course media, political debate and propaganda can influence the way people vote at the last minute.
    If only life were that easy.
    Kaz
    18th Aug 2015
    8:55am
    It should be about individual choice, not what other people believe should be their choice (which at the moment isn't having a choice)
    Saalbach
    18th Aug 2015
    10:37am
    Sorry Fast Eddie and Dougie, but the polls repeatedly show the large majority of Australians support gay marriage - 74% in the Herald Sun last week (with over 20,000 people asked), and 69% in a Fairfax poll. This should be a "no-brainer" for the pollies to decide, so they can get on with the real issues - sustainable energy, pollution, selling off to overseas buyers, lack of support for primary producers, fairer working conditions for employees (including maintaining penalty rates, etc) but since they don't have the faintest idea on what to do about those issues, they would rather deflect attention to other things. Why do you think gay marriage, boat people, unions, etc, are the centre of attention now? - because the Coalition is able to scare monger about these and take our minds off the more important matters. Unfortunately, both major parties enjoy this tactic.
    MITZY
    18th Aug 2015
    10:48am
    Pollyanna: It's not just Labor as you indicate pushing the Gay Marriage button, its also members of the current coalition government. Only yesterday we had Warren Entsch with his private member's bill in favour of it and when you looked at the numbers in the Parliament listening to his speech you could have fired a shot gun and hit nobody. As long as we have division on this subject there will never be an end to it. Delaying and delaying and Tony Abbott indicating to us all that we know what his views are on the subject is just another showing of divisiveness and indecision. Not much is happening in taking this country forward at present, and not much will happen now as within a few months both sides of government will be in"election mode". As to why people prefer Turnbull to Abbott as PM completely escapes me, I wouldn't waste my breath on either of them. We don't need a silver spoon or a pugilist.
    geomac
    20th Aug 2015
    11:48pm
    Polly
    The govt puts up the legislation not the opposition or the senate. The only thing that I noticed recently was a bill to keep info on the well off tax from companies secret because they might be kidnapped. Guess those kidnappers never heard of BMW list to check oput who is wealthy. Apparently they want to cut out an environment legislation as well that Howard introduced 15 odd years ago. They reckon its killing mining projects yet it has only affected .5% of 5500 projects since it was introduced. I repeat .5% , not 5% or 50% but half of 1%. The govt claims the Adani mine will generate 10,000 jobs but Adani itself admits it will only generate just under 1500.
    With arguments like that its no wonder the govt is on the nose. No one believes a word they say because its all rubbish. A bit like the memo about keeping topics to how well the govt is doing. They either think we are mugs or the PMs office thinks its members are mugs.
    Adrianus
    21st Aug 2015
    8:47am
    geo, I think you are confusing the actual mine jobs (1500) with the support jobs(>10,000). I take it that you are against the Adani Carmichael project? Against the China Free Trade Agreement? And any other project which grows the economy and creates jobs? Why is the CFMEU and Labor opposed to job creation?

    17th Aug 2015
    2:39pm
    Almost any change would be a good change, although I fear leaving Shorten as leader might cause Labor to lose the unlosable. Sadly, I don't see any solutions for a nation that has completely lost its way. We are governed by the most selfish, greedy, corrupt, dishonest team imaginable. Clearly, there are few in politics who give a damn for the country or its people. What we need is a clean sweep - politicians who have ethics and integrity and a social conscience. Where, in this sick society, could we ever hope to find such people? All that said - and despite being a staunch Liberal supporter for over 40 years - I can't wait to see the end of both Abbott and Hockey. They have done this nation a great deal of harm, and clearly they have no answers at all to any of the problems we face.
    Reeper
    17th Aug 2015
    3:57pm
    Tony Abbott is coming under pressure because the ALP is pushing the same-sex agenda....if that is the only problem this country has then he should go.
    Shorten is desperate to get the Union Corruption RC shut down and will do all he can to discredit the government. One of Shortens (many) problems is, is that the RC has already uncovered enough to send some very high profile ALP and Union members to jail.
    His other banter is about the China FTA taking jobs of Australians on 457 visas. Now that has been shown to be absolute rubbish and today it was revealed that three high profile unions are actually employing persons on 457 visas themselves. The lowest paid is on $52,000.00. So Fairfax, the most unbiased media in the world, has released some bad stats for the PM.......I doubt he is too concerned.
    Of course, as usual, this page has it's brain dead talking out of their backsides with commentary that is dumb, meaningless or just plain unintelligible....it really makes my day to read the commentaries...better than cartoons.
    tia-maria
    17th Aug 2015
    4:09pm
    Reeper.........your some character to say the least
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    7:25pm
    Readers might want to read the article at:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3138847/Putin-s-secret-troll-factory-branded-Barack-Obama-monkey-Ukraine-Nazis-mum-went-undercover-expose-dirty-tricks.html

    Same behaviour in Oz. This post pretty well tells the story.
    Adrianus
    21st Aug 2015
    9:06am
    mick, for once I agree with you. Why did so many of Gillard's Labor Ministers visit Moscow?
    During the Gillard term taxpayers spent around $150m pa on a 1600 strong media spin team employed by Federal Government Departments and agencies in media, communications, marketing and public affairs. We were heading toward a Stalinist regime.
    LENYJAC
    17th Aug 2015
    4:27pm
    WHEN ARE US PENSIONERS GONNA GET THE $30 RISE IN OUR PENSION????????????????????????????
    dougie
    17th Aug 2015
    4:34pm
    Why? Do we need it? Are we entitled to it? Answer me these questions in a logical manner so that I can understand your question.
    Young Simmo
    17th Aug 2015
    4:46pm
    dougie, we need it to give us more time at the Casino.
    Were entitled because we are ordinary honest Aussies, not that other Feral thing called politicians.
    Next question?
    dougie
    17th Aug 2015
    4:57pm
    Young Simmo,
    As much as I realise and recognise tongue in cheek when I see it, I did ask for logical statements which would help me to understand the statement by Lenyjac. Give me these as I am a simple man and need matters to be spelled out for me to be able to understand them.
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    5:06pm
    I think Franks been Sacked ? :-) Someone a little bit more Opaque was needed :-)
    But it working :-) NEXT !! :-) :-)
    Young Simmo
    17th Aug 2015
    5:13pm
    dougie, I don't know how to get my tongue outside my cheek with out cutting it off, then the Mrs would say "Silence is Golden".

    LENYJAC, was that a typing error, and you really meant 30 cents, not $30.
    particolor
    17th Aug 2015
    5:22pm
    Just wait till October Simmo, You'll get a Hansom Reward of about a Buck Eighty if Your lucky !! :-) :-) That was Jackboots favourite handout to the Unwashed !! :-) :-)
    Stay well as long as You can ! And I hope the Party Faithful Keep up their Medication !! :-)
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    5:29pm
    Anybody who has been watching food prices and the cost of labour (tradesmen) might agree with Leny. And just wait until the price of oil goes up again: petrol dropped by 10 cents a litre as the oil price MORE THAN HALVED but it will go up with the increase in the oil price. No discount there!
    AS well as the above have a look at what you were paying per Kwh for electricity 5 years ago and what you are paying now. Horrifying. Oh yes...."you have high electricity prices because of the Carbon Tax" (Greg Hunt lie!!), which did NOT go down more than a token few cents when the tax went.
    Is that enough dougie? Methinks that Leny may have a point. And for the record AUSTRALIA CAN AFFORD THIS (and more) if governments STOP multinationals from using the fraudulent transfer pricing to avoid their Australian taxes. This dishonest behaviour is simply the multinationals selling to THEMSELVES and calling it a loss.
    Australia can afford to pay pensioners enough so that their income is not gobbled up by inflation....which it is being done.
    particolor
    18th Aug 2015
    8:33am
    Mick I couldn't even afford to answer You ! :-(
    Adrianus
    19th Aug 2015
    2:01pm
    mick do you have any good news? :-(

    17th Aug 2015
    6:28pm
    lenyjac, everybody would love to be a millionaire, I am a single pensioner and live comfortable on the pension, yes, I don't play the pokies, too boring or play the Gee Gees, after all, every meeting will show you a big odds winner, to bad if you are not in the inner circle, however I live within my means and enjoy every bit of it. Stop complaining and start living, life is too short, if you can not live on $400.00 plus a week, something is very wrong.
    Young Simmo
    17th Aug 2015
    7:03pm
    heemskerk99, I agree 100% with your comment. We are a couple and traveling along nicely and can save 2-300 dollars per fortnight when no car rego building and contents insurance etc. Mind you we are not flash and live in a park home at $125 per week. In addition we take advantage of Centrelinks interest free $500 dollar loans twice a year. Yes the hardest part about retirement is that, it takes all day and there is no time left to do anything else.
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    7:27pm
    If you own your own home, have no debt and live smartly then spot on.
    Anonymous
    20th Aug 2015
    10:34am
    The problem, as I see it, is that many pensioners want to live the lifestyle they had when working. It is not possible.
    voodoolady
    21st Aug 2015
    5:22pm
    I don't play the pokies or the GG's, or drink or go out at night for dinner. I BARELY live on the pension I receive and I can't save a cent. From say $1000 per fortnight for both of us, take out $620 for rent, $50 for electricity, $50 for phone/internet $250 for food including meat and veg, Plus $50 a fortnight for fuel...oh wait there is only $30 left so we will buy less food. We *could* move but unfortunately you need $$$ to be able to move and we don't have that. We live hand to mouth every week despite trying to budget as best we can. I don't HAVE a lifestyle...we can't afford one...we just exist.
    niemakawa
    17th Aug 2015
    7:03pm
    The only poll that counts is the one on election day. I want a leader that recognises that tough measures need to be taken to ensure the Nation's future prosperity. Mr Abbott is that person. Don't care whether he is popular or not. So I will continue to vote Liberal as there is no other party that comes close.
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    7:33pm
    Clearly honestly, keeping promises and treating ALL AUstralians with the same fairness is not important to you niemakawa. Sad.
    Add to the above the fact that this government is 'owned' by the Murdoch empire and the coal industry, that it has added a significant amount to the national debt since attaining office, that it is after average citizens for more taxes whilst giving the top end tax cuts and that it refuses to end the multinational tax avoidance scheme and the rich man's superannuation tax shelter and you have WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS ALL ABOUT.
    Want to talk about the Royal Commission and the corruption going on at the Commissioner level? Thought not.
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    7:35pm
    Personally I don't care who governs the country.........as long as the Party is reasonably honest and not run by vested interests for vested interests and generally acting FOR the country. Not the vested interests.
    niemakawa
    17th Aug 2015
    7:54pm
    Mick, Well you could say that Labor is 'owned' by the unions as they have so much influence in that party's policy making. That is politics. The reason I vote Liberal is that it offers anyone who is prepared to work opportunities to enrich their lives through their own efforts. Whereas Labor offer services and money to people without any necessity for the recipients to make an effort for themselves and make a contribution.
    MICK
    17th Aug 2015
    8:53pm
    You make a good point niemakawa but then whose interests do the unions generally represent?
    I agree with your point of view but remind you that the right is controlled by wealthy interests who care about one thing only: lower taxes....for the rich. This is my issue with the right. It is not a Party governing for a cross section but rather the rich, all the time talking the rhetoric of the nation. The money trail always tells the story.
    I also share your concerns with Labor. It needs to stop throwing money at those who 'choose' to be useless as a life choice.
    As Malcolm Fraser once said: "life wasn't meant to be easy". And you wonder why Independents present such an alluring alternative. At least the nation has a fair CHANCE of good government.
    Saalbach
    18th Aug 2015
    10:46am
    sorry niemakawa, but do you think the Liberals' support of the move to remove penalty rates for weekend or public holiday work is really supporting those who want to work? Seems to me it is ripping off those who are desperate for a job and would rather take a pay cut than lose their job. Not sure I could vote for a party that has that philosophy, but it takes all kinds, I guess. Perhaps you should look at the situation from the viewpoint of someone who is worse off for a change, then you might change your opinions!
    Anonymous
    18th Aug 2015
    11:08am
    The unions are the ones that negatioated away week end rates . It has been suggested by the productivity commission not the govt that in the hospitality industry that penalty rates should only apply for overtime .
    Batara
    18th Aug 2015
    3:03pm
    What I have difficulty understanding is the number of comments indicating a preference to vote for the Coalition. As far as I can see anyone who works for a living, or did work for a living, should not vote for those silvertails. Their interest is to ensure people born into well to do families, or who get rich through usury and exploiting fellow citizens add to their riches. Wake up people. Do not be fooled by the rich boys from the North Shore.
    particolor
    19th Aug 2015
    8:07am
    Could we have Vaucluse about what Your talking please ? :-)
    Anonymous
    20th Aug 2015
    10:36am
    And the Labor Party is owned by the Unions.
    Adrianus
    20th Aug 2015
    12:19pm
    mick, you need to explain what you mean here sunshine????

    "Want to talk about the Royal Commission and the corruption going on at the Commissioner level? Thought not."

    So you and your Labor mates have gone from accusations of bias to accusations of corruption????
    Looby
    22nd Aug 2015
    8:17pm
    Totally agree Niemakawa.
    Circum
    23rd Aug 2015
    10:51pm
    Feel free to vote for whoever you wish as long as you have analysed the data and come to a conclusion.Personally I feel that anyone who will ALWAYS vote for a particular party without considering the benefits/weaknesses of all parties,shouldnt be allowed to vote.Because it really is a donkey vote.

    18th Aug 2015
    11:10am
    Even though an Atheist I think I will go with God . God gave man choice . That is what free enterprise offers.. Socialism is for Govt monopolies .

    18th Aug 2015
    11:11am
    Malcolm will never again lead the liberal party he is a wet.,.
    Anonymous
    18th Aug 2015
    11:11am
    And my local MP
    Travellersjoy
    18th Aug 2015
    12:54pm
    Abbot still has that smug smirk, and the turkeys are still following him to Christmas dinner.

    Plenty of time for the demagogues to get out there and persuade enough voters that black is white, the sun won't rise under a different government, and that's really clothes the naked PM is wearing.

    I trust nothing any more until I see it is real. I never believed Australians could be as gullible and easily manipulated as we have seen for some years now, but it keeps on happening with a very smug smirk.
    Adrianus
    19th Aug 2015
    9:23am
    Of course Tony Abbott is going to be unpopular with those who think only about what the government can do for them and not what they can do for the country.
    The lack of patriotism and increased level of selfishness is, I feel, in direct proportion to the ratio of overseas born Australians. We currently have 6.6m Australians who were born in another country. Highest level in 120 years.
    Anonymous
    19th Aug 2015
    6:18pm
    Any party that promises increases in pensions will get in be it Labor or Liberal. That is how fickle many seniors have become.
    My step granddaughter has a number plate it says ALLABOUTME. Maybe it should be the number plate of many more.
    Looby
    22nd Aug 2015
    8:20pm
    Agree Frank. The handout mentality is only worsening. Providing for yourself and family seems to have lost it's importance for a lot of people.

    19th Aug 2015
    6:15pm
    I have said for some time that Abbott should stand aside; he just does not cut it with the Australian people as PM.
    I do not want Turnbull as replacement either...he is straddling the fence. Does not know which party he belongs too.
    Adrianus
    20th Aug 2015
    2:21pm
    I see a problem with what we Aussies like in a PM. I couldn't understand why Kevin Rudd got so many votes, so I asked a few people why they voted for Kevin 007. Subsequently I formed an opinion that there are two things that get a Minister to the lodge and perhaps even keep him/her there. 1. Commonality. People warm to the idea that they want to invite the person to a dinner party because they have something in common, such as they both take selfies.
    2. Pretence of a better world. Many voters don't seem to mind that the colourful picture of a wonderful future is empty rhetoric because of the temporary feeling of euphoria it provides. One woman said to me "I know he is Bulls#&%%&!g but I like hearing it. He he he
    Tony Abbott cannot be this person and on top of that he appears as a stuff shirt to a young audience. I remember how Rudd's share price increased when it was revealed that he was in a NY strip club way past midnight. Now if that was Tony Abbott the reaction would be more like shock.
    Young Simmo
    20th Aug 2015
    2:28pm
    Sorry to change subject, but how many big brave cops does it take to handle one lady??????

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/29307100/woman-stripped-beaten-in-police-lock-up/

    Pass it on, it needs to be seen.
    Warning, it could be upsetting for some people.
    Anonymous
    21st Aug 2015
    3:40pm
    I would like to know what necessitated the woman being stripped....nothing has been said in the paper I read today. Need to know more of the details before I voice an opinion on this. On the face of it; not a good look.
    Young Simmo
    21st Aug 2015
    4:48pm
    Yeh Radish (F), it had a good airing over here in WA, but everybody is too scared to say to much about the WA cops. The WA cops can do anything they want as long as there are no CCTVs. On this case the Police Commissioner said his boys didn't do anything wrong and nobody will be disciplined. For misbehaving you get stripped, punched between the shoulder blades while laying on the floor, and a broken finger and the is normal in WA ! If I wasn't 75, I would be thinking of migrating to Russia where the rules fairer.
    I believe she was misbehaving which is a good broad statement, I'm not sure if that is dropping a ciggie butt, or cutting a throat.
    Tigers
    23rd Aug 2015
    7:11am
    Neither PM option is popular by voters, ie Abbott or Shorten, yet we have to accept the fact that one of them will be our PM. The system needs to change, I for one am sick of incompetent fools being our leader.
    jessej
    23rd Aug 2015
    2:38pm
    WE Liberals don't want Turnbull as leader he is Labor thru and thru we would have 2 ims or 2 ers marrying - and would be a republic - Turnbull should just move his backside to the Labor side of Parliament


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