26th Nov 2012
PM prepares for Parliamentary ambush

With the last sitting of Parliament for the year fast approaching, Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop has promised to keep the heat on the Prime Minister over her alleged participation in the fraudulent misuse of Australian Workers’ Union (AWU) funds 17 years ago.

Julia Gillard has been questioned time and again about her involvement in the purchase of a house using union funds by her then boyfriend Bruce Wilson. At the time of the purchase, Ms Gillard was a partner at the law firm Slater & Gordon, which facilitated the purchase. Union official Ralph Blewitt, on behalf of Mr Wilson, made the purchase of the house. Mr Blewit returned to Melbourne this week to give his side of the story to Victoria Police, but only on the understanding he will not be prosecuted for his part in the fraud. The Prime Minister’s former boyfriend broke his silence over the weekend to state that Ms Gillard had no part to play in fraud and nothing to answer for. This is believed to go against the statement given by Mr Blewitt.

The continued pressure on the Prime Minister to answer questions, which she says she has already answered, shows no sign of letting up with renewed calls from the Opposition for her to ‘come clean’. Ms Bishop intends to use Parliamentary question time to ask Ms Gillard why she did nothing to help recoup the missing funds, or advise the police of the matter. Ms Bishop said she will also ask questions about the "hundreds of thousands of dollars (which) went out of this slush fund and (haven't) been recovered. They'll go into other areas that I've been able to discover in the weeks since the last parliamentary sitting." The questions about the Prime Minister’s recollection of what happened will be supported by documentation, according to the Deputy Leader.

Despite repeated denials of any wrongdoing, the Prime Minister appears powerless to stop the continued and repetitive questioning which seems to be going nowhere. Telling reporters in Melbourne on Friday that no one had put a “substantiated” claim of wrongdoing against her in 20 years. “What this all means is that this whole campaign of smear actually boils down to absolutely nothing,” Ms Gillard said.

Read the full story at TheAge.com.au 


Opinion: Time to put up or shut up

Another news day and yet more headlines about the Prime Minister’s involvement in the misuse of AWU funds. Since taking the reins of the country two years ago, Julia Gillard has faced constant questioning about her relationship twenty years ago with ex-boyfriend Bruce Wilson, her involvement in the purchase of a house using union funds and the circumstances surrounding her departure from leading law firm Slater & Gordon.

During this time and despite the search for evidence to contradict Ms Gillard’s version of the story, no one has been able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt what she knew, or what was her involvement. Yet time and again the Opposition hijacks the media and Parliamentary question time to dredge up the same old story without adding anything new. Surely this can be seen for what it is; a blatant exercise in trying to deflect attention from a party which has no defined policies? It can’t fight a fair battle, so it will use every ill-gotten nugget of information, true or not, to attack the Prime Minister.

The return to Melbourne of self-confessed fraudster Ralph Blewitt, who is now compelled to get off his chest his involvement in the misappropriation of union funds, is timely for the Opposition. Ignoring the fact that Blewitt was only willing to tell Victoria Police his side of the story in return for the guarantee that it would not be used against him in court, the Opposition will allow Julie Bishop to harangue the Prime Minister during the last sitting of Parliament. Surely, when there are so many more pressing issues, such as running a country, seeking a solution to the asylum seeker crisis and ensuring justice for those subject to institutional abuse, this is not a productive use of the Parliamentary forum?

Harassed at his home by reporters, Bruce Wilson has broken his silence to declare that the Prime Minster knew nothing of the 1990s scandal, “they can go on a witch-hunt for as long as they like, and they will find nothing that will do her (Gillard) any harm. It's just a waste of time. They will find nothing.” Yet this isn’t enough to get the Opposition to lay off the Prime Minister. Ralph Blewitt, a key player in this saga, has given his side of the story to Victoria Police, which will in turn investigate the matter, applying due legal process. Should any wrongdoing by the Prime Minister be uncovered during the process, she will then have questions to answer.

So, unless Julie Bishop has access to information the Victorian Police doesn’t, she should let it do its job and leave the super-sleuthing to Nancy Drew.

Should the PM face continued questions about something which happened 20 years ago? Is Parliament the correct forum for such questioning?





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    MITZY
    26th Nov 2012
    11:50am
    The opposition would not go on a witch hunt regarding a matter 20 years old if they didn't have parliamentary privelege. If the shoe was on the other foot, it would be likewise. Once again, what's the purpose. I can't wait for this week to be over and we can have a break from these "children" running our country. Mention parliament, a politician, boats as opposed to the people on the boats, electricity, carbon tax, and I'm completely tuned out. It's time to stick a dummy in the mouths of the lot of them.
    Dotty
    26th Nov 2012
    11:52am
    I agree with you Egypian,
    Its time that Parliament got on with the job they were Elected to do and run the country instead of all this chidish behaviour. Dotty
    Grateful
    26th Nov 2012
    11:54am
    The ONLY policy statement that the Coalition has made in this Parliament is that the P.M. should telephone the Prime Minister of Nauru and immediately re-open the Nauru detention centre!!!!
    The Government agreed to compromise in the hope that Tony Abbott might just be right, but, what has happened, boat arrivals have increased alarmingly!!
    So much for Coalition "policies", so, what do they do, just continually rake up garbage to deflect the media from the real issues that are affecting this country. Asylum seekers (those by boat) are costing ALL Australians billions of dollars and surely an Opposition should be just as concerned to stop that horrible financial haemorrhaging. It is affecting ALL of us, vital services are being withdrawn to save costs to cover the cost of asylum seekers. The Government has tried everything, including compromise with the Coalition, surely it is now time for the Coalition to compromise with the Government in allowing sending boat asylum seekers to Malaysia for processing. Something MUST be done and NOW. But, no, the Coalition is just hell bent on defamation and populist media coverage that has been welcomed and supported by the likes of The Melbourne Herald Sun and The Australian. What an enormous opportunity for Tony Abbott to show some real positive leadership and to stop the grabage raking and sit down with the Governmant to resolve this much pressing problem. He will score many more points in doing that, but, he simply does not understand that and remains hell bent on trying to destroy Julia Gillard. He should play THAT card very carefully, as it could blow up right in his face if she is replaced by Kevin Rudd who would certainly beat him at an election.
    jennyya
    26th Nov 2012
    12:01pm
    So ..... more opinion from the labor members of this site???
    Grateful
    26th Nov 2012
    4:15pm
    How boring Jennyya. You have exactly the same negative, nil substance, nothing positive to add attitude as the very coalition that you are obviously supporting. Must run in the genes?? Why not stretch you own brain and give us an actual contribution to the subject under discussion?
    Leo
    26th Nov 2012
    12:04pm
    The problem is that the Coalition have no policies of their own and trying to defame the Prime Minister is top of their agenda. It is time that the opposition bring in some policies to the table and not try to proof something that is not there. I think they need someone with Leadership qualities. The trouble is that it is working for them according to the latest polls and all they are interested in is getting into Government so that they can start cutting down on the pensions, welfare, education and health.
    Leo
    26th Nov 2012
    12:08pm
    Julia Bishop, wasn't she once a shadow treasurer who did not know what the cash rate was when asked about interest rates ? She cannot be that good if she has been Deputy to three leaders and never elevated herself to the top job. Looking nicely groomed is not necessary that important, better to have some brains behind the dress.
    AmandaR
    28th Nov 2012
    5:29pm
    I think Julie Bishop is a very intelligent women. I think she is misguided in her approach to this particular issue and the Opposition should back off, let the justice system run its course and get on with the real issues that are affecting our country.
    qbeebill
    26th Nov 2012
    12:16pm
    Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop has promised to keep the heat on the Prime Minister over her alleged participation in the fraudulent misuse of Australian Workers’ Union (AWU) funds 17 years ago...Well as a Voter I think it time that she earned her Parliamentary Wages and did some real work towards getting this Country on track if she thinks that the Government is failing in its job..The PM has already said that she was not involved with this incident the PM is doing a good job of running the Country and dealing with matters that deal with TODAYS problems and not allegations of something that happened that happened over 17 years ago get real Julie Bishop and do your job for the Country today...Bill
    JA
    26th Nov 2012
    12:16pm
    Well said jennyya, "your lifechoices", is beginning to look more like a labourparty spokesside.
    Isn't it ironic that so many people forget or don't want to remember what a disfunctionally
    government this is. They started with a surplus of 20 billion and so far have racked up hundreds of billions in the red and still counting. In the meantime they make promises to the disabled community where there is no money for. And so the list goes on....Julia Gillard is a disgrace to the office of Prime Minister.
    slapsy
    26th Nov 2012
    1:09pm
    And just like your hero,where are your policies also?
    Odup2
    26th Nov 2012
    12:22pm
    You are obviously a sounding board for Labor. Should not YLC be non-partisan?
    Ozetwo
    26th Nov 2012
    12:27pm
    However bad the Opposition and the media paint the Government, look closely at the policies. Look what happened in Queensland. Liberal philosophy is to look after the wealthy in the hope of a trickle down effect to the minions below, not a fair and just system for all. If the Liberal Party had presided over the GFC we would have had mass unemployment nationally now instead of one of the better performing economies in the OECD. The US could kick start their economy if the had similar policies, instead they continue to give tax breaks to the rich. They have massive unemployment and people cannot afford to purchase the many things that keep a robust economy moving. Queensland seem to be favoring the US model throwing thousands out of work and ,insanely, talking down the economy making it an almost self fullfilling prophecy.
    jennyya
    26th Nov 2012
    12:37pm
    I fear the worst next year when it is voting time. There are so many labor voters out there that they could (heaven forbid) re-elect this government. One eyed and tunnel visioned - what's in it for me syndrome) That is the picture of the labor voter. They really cannot see the forest for the trees. Julia Gillard is a liar and always has been. She will lie her way into the next election and it seems the majority of Ozzies cannot see it. Wake up and try reading current affairs - please - before it is too late! Surely you have already noticed a change in our freedom of speech and the sky high bills because of the carbon dioxide tax. Tim Flannery is at it again talking up solar power and how we won't be able afford anything but green energy. That could be right if the electricity and gas bills keep on going up. And not to mention the water bill. Come on Oz - think of the big picture - not just petty dollars thrown here and there as an enticement. I've always thought you were better than that!!!
    slapsy
    26th Nov 2012
    1:17pm
    Get with it jennyya.You and TA seem to be the only 2 people in the country still believing that the carbon tax is the source of all our problems.Didn't you notice that your power bills started rising about 2 years before the carbon tax became law.
    Grateful
    26th Nov 2012
    4:54pm
    Julia Gillard "is a liar and ALWAYS HAS BEEN"!!! Bordering on bleeding disgraceful jennyya. Those sort of throw away lines demean you and your very thin remaining credibility.
    AmandaR
    28th Nov 2012
    6:22pm
    I really don't understand this liar business. I remember Mr Howards 'core' and 'non-core' election promises. I also remember the electoral deception of the LNP - the Tampa affair and the weapons of mass destruction to name but two.
    Peepo
    26th Nov 2012
    12:38pm
    The liberal party's turn to be rubbished by all and sundry will come when they're in power. Such is the nature of Australian politics.
    uthinkso
    26th Nov 2012
    12:38pm
    If the Prime Minister has to waist extremelly valuable time answering questions that happened 20 years ago and Labor decides to retaliate by demanding dodgy answers given in the past by Malcolm Turnbul, John Howard,etc ,etc, then that is the end of parlimentry system.
    lauren
    26th Nov 2012
    12:44pm
    I agree with JA and Ky Chin, the YLC and count in the ABC are nothing more than sounding boards for the ALP. The opposition are doing their job, no different from when Labor was in opposition. That's all the news media do now, they seem to be incapable of being non-partisan, they seem to be incapable of presenting ALL SIDES WITH TRUTH. maybe our nation needs to require more of our Media!
    Solange
    26th Nov 2012
    12:47pm
    When I first checked YLC there were so many right wingers commenting that I thought it was a playground for Liberal staffers hiding behind grannie names. Now a topic brings out other thinking and it is being attacked for Labor bias. I agree with the writer who said it was time for Bishop to earn her wages, her boss too. Many of us are fed up with these sad attempts to fling dirt by innuendo. They do it knowing a little mud does always stick. If they can cause enough doubt in the public mind, they know they will have forever damaged our Prime Minister's reputation. What is next? Will they drag out a few old boyfriends and quiz them about when she lost her virginity. Just like those people who said Alan Jones should be sacked, I think we should all take a stand to raise the standard of debate in this country. These attacks say more about the Opposition's ethics than the Prime Minister's.
    Dotty
    26th Nov 2012
    12:52pm
    And I still say that the Coalition should get on with the job with Labour and run the Country instead of spouting their mouths going off all the time over something that they can only assume happened and cant prove nearly 20 years ago.
    dotty
    PB
    26th Nov 2012
    1:07pm
    Yes!!
    Debbie McTaggart
    26th Nov 2012
    12:56pm
    In regards to the politics of this article, this is the opinion of one person, not that of YOURLifeChoices. The purpose of the comments section is for those who have an opinion, whether it agrees or not with the writer to have their say. As writer of this post I am more concerned with the execution of the legal process involved and should there be a case for Julia Gillard to answer, then she should do so. I personally think that Parliament should be for discussing the issues which surround the running of the country and that personal attacks, from either side have no place.
    PB
    26th Nov 2012
    1:07pm
    Yes again!!
    Gaellun
    26th Nov 2012
    1:57pm
    Maybe then the matter should not have been raised on this forum and instead we stick to what it is intended for and not a political too and fro. Every one has their own opinions and unless I have been asleep for the last three years, there isnt an election due soon, so lets leave the political clap trap to the elections and the parties that claim to represent us and return the emphasis of this site back to what it should be. Life choices for those over 50 NOT a political sounding board.
    smithjj
    26th Nov 2012
    3:00pm
    I agree with Gaellun that this site should return to it's original purpose and leave politics alone. It has become nothing more than a vehicle for Debbie & Kaye to push their pro ALP views.
    Gaellun
    26th Nov 2012
    12:58pm
    I have seen the documentation relating to the fraud case from Wilson and Gillard. I have also seen documents obtained under FOI and unless Wilson took to forging Julia's signature, she certainly was involved. Why els would the law form sack her as soon as they found out. As to the other comments re this site; I agree, I was under the impression it was a non-partisan site designed to provide advisce on various items for the seniors: NOT a LABOR FORUM.
    MITZY
    26th Nov 2012
    6:05pm
    What document did you see? If Ms. Gillard was setting up a company for the other parties (Blewitt & Wilson) naturally she would have signed documents. She has stated and so has Gordon & Slater that Ms. Gillard did no wrong and she resigned, she was not sacked. She resigned and went on to bigger and better opportunites, I presume. Now this disgraceful union official who fled the country for his part in the "slush fund" with Wilson..... has decided to re-enter Australia with the promise that he will not be prosecuted for his wrong-doings. In the meantime Wilson has made a statement that Ms. Gillard did no wrong and has nothing to answer for. I would like to see these people who are continually accusing Ms. Gillard to do so "outside of parliamentary privelege" then maybe the truth will prevail. Regardless of what politic leanings we all have, there has to be a better way of running this beautiful country we live in. Can you imagine if we the taxpayers carried on the way our politicans carry on we would not have a job.
    robnlee
    26th Nov 2012
    1:14pm
    I agree that the matter of Gillard, Wilson and Union funds is very old. The issue, maybe, should be whether Gillard is telling the truth, something she has fallen short of in the past. And the perception that she will do anything to get what she wants. AND I haven't seen too many comments taking Abbott's side over the smears of sexism and misogyny. So, is it all one way-traffic with the personal attacks?
    Bes
    26th Nov 2012
    1:20pm
    A great response by everyone. There is only one thing left to do, LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE!
    Hopefully we get a majority government so that we ALL know who to blame next time.
    There will always be a next time!
    We vote for Rudd and Labor gave us Gillard.
    We vote for Abbot and the Liberals give us................................................
    If someone wrote a book about Australian politics in 2012, anyone from a different country would surely take the book as being fiction. Because it sure as hell defies logic!
    slapsy
    26th Nov 2012
    1:28pm
    Who is Julie Bishop anyway?Is she that person they all call,"our most loyal deputy?"How many opposition leaders has she been loyal to now?Has it been 3 or 4?No wonder they are always looking over their shoulder !
    GeeGee
    26th Nov 2012
    2:31pm
    The trouble is Julia Gillard is not prepared to answer any questions in front of Parliament so she can't be accused of misleading Parliament. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with her memory but it is just so very convenient to use that as an excuse. GeeGee
    Solange
    26th Nov 2012
    2:47pm
    I think you are trying to mislead here. The prime minister has answered questions on this until journalists were left without anything more to ask. She has quite rightly refused to continually to answer the same questions over and over because some people want a different answer. As to a convenient memory. How many busy lawyers remember every document they signed 20 years ago in a previous career. She was there, signing documents not as his girlfriend as the press and opposition keep calling her, but as his lawyer. Where were you on this day 20 years ago GeeGee?
    Boof
    26th Nov 2012
    3:28pm
    Julie Bishop and Tony Abbott. What a good pair He is a drongo and she is ( The B word as they say in america. ) What have they done for Australia since the last election only put obsticles in the way of every thing the Government has tried to bring in and say, " NO, No, No, to everything and waste valuable time in the parliament, making geese of themselves.
    marg
    26th Nov 2012
    3:37pm
    i am sick of the shameful modelling of bullying and put downs displayed by the government in parliamentary question time, by all sides of politics. what sort of role models are they for our children/students who face continually criticism and participation in the same form of behaviour in our schools and socially?
    sledging and personal attacks benefit no one.
    please, please, elected representatives of the community, get on with justifiable, pro-active and beneficial governing.
    JJ
    26th Nov 2012
    6:12pm
    Hear, hear!
    tomtom
    26th Nov 2012
    3:38pm
    OK - here's one for you Labor lot - why should the Liberal Party disclose it's policies this far BEFORE an election.Do you think that the Liberal's are dumb? If they produce their policies,Juliar and her communist cohorts would probably steal them - I wouldn't trust Labor at any cost.
    Solange
    26th Nov 2012
    9:29pm
    Communist cohorts? Really! I know this is a site for the elderly but you can't still use the same scare tactics you used in the 1950s. At least update your insults.
    Solange
    26th Nov 2012
    9:29pm
    Communist cohorts? Really! I know this is a site for the elderly but you can't still use the same scare tactics you used in the 1950s. At least update your insults.
    tomtom
    27th Nov 2012
    9:32am
    Thank you Solange - no need for me to update, the union movement, from where all Juliar's cohorts come from is still run on Communist systems and rules - communism still exists.
    AmandaR
    28th Nov 2012
    6:39pm
    Yeah, I do think they are just a little bit dumb. And it is statements like this, justifying the lack of policy, that makes them look bad - to quote Mr Abbott:

    "Well, we will have policy. We must have policy. We in fact do have policy ready to go. But the first job of the Opposition is to hold the Government to account. Then once people have decided that they think the Government doesn’t deserve to be re-elected they look at us and say, ‘well, are these guys going to be a credible alternative, are they going to make a positive difference.’ and so it is a two stage process. But the first stage is making the Government look bad."

    Seriously, I wouldn't trust any party lead by this man. Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to find a communist manifesto to review :)
    Grateful
    26th Nov 2012
    4:33pm
    I can't believe that some people are so blinded by political bigotry to call this discussion "political" and anything to do with the Labor Party. The question is very specifically about one person and her credibility or otherwise regaring this specific issue about the so called "slush fund'. This person was a solicitor and advised the AWU on the legal requirements to establish a Company. She did that and there is absolutely no evidence from all the accusers that she had done anything wrong. She had NOTHING to do with the "slush fund" as that was then set up under the Company that was created. She had NOTHING to do with the setting up of or the conduct of the "slush fund". PERIOD.
    The accusers are barking up the wrong tree.
    And who do you think are paying The Australian and the Herald Sun to keep running this trash? Let's get bigotry out of these discussions and quit tarring anybody who might just support an argument relating to the Prime Minister as a "Laborite." And, for what it is worth, it is the Australian LABOR Party, at least spell it right in your criticisms.
    And the criticism of the "leaders" of the Coalition is not anti Liberal it is strictly anti Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop who are badly letting down the Liberal party and the Australian people by not contributing positive policies for the betterment of all Australians and not just their own selfish personal ambitions.
    jennyya
    26th Nov 2012
    4:43pm
    There are none so blind as those who will not see - the saying goes. That's why, in my further paragraph I said that I am in very fear of this government regaining power at an election. Änd for those that don't think that this is a Labor site, just go to the top of the story and you will see it was picked from The Age newspaper. You can always tell a Labor voter (but then again you can't tell ém much) because they read the bigoted and one-eyed Age newspaper which does not have one conservative journalist working for it.
    Grateful
    26th Nov 2012
    4:56pm
    I wish I could put you on "ignore" jennyya. You persist with your bigotry which continually ruins what should be a communication outlet for many.
    Sylvia
    26th Nov 2012
    5:34pm
    IF Julia Gillard is involved with this slush fund, then we do have a right to hear about it, let it be investigated, because we want to know that the people running this country are straight and honest, if she is cleared then so be it, we read about so many parlimentarians sailing close to the wind, the people standing for government should be able to stand some scrutiny, the Australian people deserve to know. And we deserve a Parliament made up by men and women workng together for the common good,.
    Hawkeye
    26th Nov 2012
    5:35pm
    There be dragons here!!!
    As a swinging voter I can see equal bigotry coming from both sides.
    I am disgusted at what all our parliaments in this country have become.

    As elected members of the parliament, is it not the oppositions (and independents) job to assist the government in the running of the country (or state) for the betterment of all?
    Should not anything less be regarded as treason and be punished accordingly?

    Unfortunately, this parliamentary treason is practised by all losing sides (very childish).
    Tony Abbot and his cohorts, however, have taken it to a new level, and I (as a voter) am sick to death of paying them an exorbitant salary to continue to do so.
    Michael
    26th Nov 2012
    5:54pm
    The vitriol displayed in these letters appears to be aimed at individuals rather than at political parties. Sylvia has a very good point "we deserve a Parliament made up by men and women working together for the common good" and Hawkeye's sentiments are much the same. Not sure about treason, tho' I do see the point.
    toot2000
    26th Nov 2012
    5:50pm
    I think it's a clever ploy to remind the electorate over the Christmas break that Julia Gillard was closely linked to the unions and their leaders who had their fingers in the till.
    Michael
    26th Nov 2012
    5:57pm
    As I commented above criticism is aimed at individuals rather than their party.

    26th Nov 2012
    6:52pm
    When I signed up for yourlifechoises, I thought this was a forum for the more mature and elderly, it now turns out to be another a.l.p mouthpiece. bring on the election and let the Australian People decide the result. The silent majority has had enough of the unelected union members who have sold their members out, took their money and now are in govt. for another snout in the trough. You can attack Abbott and Julie Bischop as much as You like, none have been accused of knocking money of the Union members or spend taxpayers money on taxis, brothels, houses, etc. All I hope for that the next Govt. regardless of which party, labor or liberal, will bring in LAWS to examine the unions books, You can expect a few more quests in our prison system.
    As for "yourlifechoices" please go back to your original intentions, please don't allow extremist to take over the agenda, this also goes for the staff you employ, as I said before, I did not sign up to be induced into any form of political affirmation.
    Hopeful you'll go back to what was the original intention. to look after the people who need our help and direction.
    slapsy
    27th Nov 2012
    2:36pm
    Why,when put onto their backfoot ,do all the rightwingers complain about the bias of the other side?I think that just like their heroes,TA and JB,they should grow up.
    tomtom
    29th Nov 2012
    8:59am
    Well said " heemskerk99 " me thinks that " slapsy " is full of crapsy !!!
    Tom Tank
    26th Nov 2012
    7:10pm
    There has been absolutely no evidence presented against Julia Gillard that supports the claims made by Tony Abbot, Julie Bishop The Australian and the Herald Sun. Surely after all this time sometime substantial would have appeared. One can only assume that Tony Abbot is doing the only thing he knows which is to kick heads. I suspect that come the election he will NOT be leading the Liberal Party as he is the best thing the Labor Party has going for it.
    Emily
    26th Nov 2012
    7:38pm
    Julia is a liar and a cheat but certainly is one smart lady calling the press before being sledged in parliament.It is amazing how she continues to lead our wonderful country.As a frequent traveller overseas,other countries are mystified by the behaviour in our parliament,by so called the'brains' in our country.
    Emily
    Solange
    26th Nov 2012
    11:17pm
    If you are going to defame someone holding one of the highest offices in this country, I think you should have the courage of your convictions and put your full name to it. They call Parliament Coward's Castle because of their freedom to slander without fear of prosecution but the new Coward's Castle is web sites like this where people can say awful vicious stuff and hide behind nicknames.
    Grateful
    27th Nov 2012
    11:04am
    Hear!! Hear!! Solange. The P.M. is accused of using press conferences to avoid the "scrutiny" of parliament. What hogwash. She is exempting herself from that Coward's castle by being up front IN PUBLIC. Unlike the tactics used by the opposition who do not appear to have the courage to make those accusations in public. Who is being the coward?
    And I totally agree with hawkeye, ALL Members of Parliament are elected to represent ALL Australians and should ALL be working together for the good of this great country. Why are we paying the opposition memebers to sit around and just criticise and name call like kids in a school yard while we are hab=ving massive issues needing co-operation and collaboration to resolve. i.e. Asylum Seekers!! (How good has THAT Nauru idea turned out and who's was it?)
    lindylou
    26th Nov 2012
    8:14pm
    Having just read ALL the previous comments, I am appalled. You lovely people are rabid in your mindsets regarding the major parties. All politicians lie or have to recant due to pressure from too many sources. Accepted? Now, if there were any question of wrongdoing in a polli's past, it would not have taken too long for it to come to light, especially when they hold higher office. Maybe we can all agree on this point. It has taken 20 years to come to this kerfuffle, so I query how accurate all the blather is.
    There have been opinions offered here as Absolute Truths - liar, cheat, and so forth. Prove it or be liable for prosecution.
    I firmly believe that any person who holds a high position in public life is entitled to have that position respected, even if respect for the person is not forthcoming. Ask yourself if you could accept a foreigner's using such language about this country's leader. I would bloody well resent it on behalf of all of Australia.
    Another question: Why is Tony Abbott so silent on this issue? Normally he is leading the charge and in the full limelight. Perhaps he is looking to pass the buck if the poo hits the fan?
    Solange
    26th Nov 2012
    11:21pm
    Thank you. Well said.
    Grateful
    27th Nov 2012
    1:15pm
    Good one lindylou.
    And why isn't the LEADER of the OPPOSITION so silent? The Liberal Party has gagged him for the next 12 months and to stop embarrassing the party with what he says and for being completely outplayed at his "game' in Parliament by a woman Prime Minister. Seen his "popularity" rating lately? That's why.
    AmandaR
    28th Nov 2012
    7:22pm
    Well said lindylou.

    I cannot understand why Julie Bishop has taken this forward. I do not buy the 'she is the lawyer and she understands this better than anyone else' line. I would never have envisaged her as a sacrificial lamb but I have to ask - is she doing it to protect Tony Abbott from further criticism? Sadly, I suspect she is and it may well be her undoing, which will be a sad thing because I think she has been a good example of a strong female in federal politics and lord knows we need more females to step forward.
    kenny
    26th Nov 2012
    10:30pm
    It's an absolute disgrace that in this beautiful country when I came about 40 years ago, there
    were some good politicians and we would vote for them. This bunch Barnaby, Tony Abbott
    the poser ( he has to every time he goes to visit in the country or some manufacturing company) Julie Bishop and there rest. Why are we forced to VOTE! There is no one worthy
    When I worked in Trans Australian Airlines, there was a Russian Driver of CHN 9, I asked
    him .. IGOR tomorrow Saturday you have to vote .. his answer to me was a good one
    " Ken, tomorrow half will go to the PUB and half will go to the Races " F*** the ministers !
    How true ...Cheers

    27th Nov 2012
    8:16am
    Well, we aren't forced to vote, only to attend the ballot box and get your dtls crossed off! I for one, always want to vote and have my say. I would hate to live in a non democratic country where I didn't have the right to vote.
    Oldie84
    27th Nov 2012
    11:33am
    Oh give me a break. I thought us Oldies had more sense. This mud slinging at each other is not very edifying. The way I see it Ms Gillard was deeply involved in something she should have. What I can't understand that with all the sleaze and corruption and stealing all these years ago NO ONE has been brought to account. I would have thought that it was a criminal matter. The same goes for the HSU scandal. I am glad I am not a union member any more. They should have revolted by now and cleansed the "temple".
    Hermann
    Oldie84
    27th Nov 2012
    11:33am
    Oh give me a break. I thought us Oldies had more sense. This mud slinging at each other is not very edifying. The way I see it Ms Gillard was deeply involved in something she should have. What I can't understand that with all the sleaze and corruption and stealing all these years ago NO ONE has been brought to account. I would have thought that it was a criminal matter. The same goes for the HSU scandal. I am glad I am not a union member any more. They should have revolted by now and cleansed the "temple".
    Hermann
    toot2000
    27th Nov 2012
    12:02pm
    I can't imagine why Blewitt has dumped on his party, his union and his PM. I cannot understand it either - why aren't they all in jail, union members must be furious.
    arbee75
    27th Nov 2012
    1:11pm
    I realise the Tory supporters out there in Senior's blogosphere will believe that I am a rabid Neo Commo or something but here goes anyway.

    Ever since I can recall, the Coalition parties have used scare tactics to frighten the Australian populace with the smearing of Bogeymen ( and now Women ) who they deemed were bent on destroying our nation and it's way of life. As a young man they succeeded in spades in putting the frighteners on me; a sample of the utter BS that they promoted: all union leaders are REDS,
    the ALP of course was in the pay of the KGB, any person who spoke out or gave them aggro were labelled dirty Commos reds, or fellow travellers at best. Yes I, like too many others, believed this utter crap and as a consequence voted Tory at every election that was held.

    At the age of about 35 years I woke up, rather late I know ! it was our involvement in the Vietnam conflict that caused me to end any electoral support to the LNP the fact of the sending of Australian forces to that poor benighted country, decent and brave young Diggers compelled to fight, suffer and die for What ? we the public were constantly told in the Tory press etc that we were part of the struggle to stop the spread of ( you guessed it, COMMUNISM ) the greatest untruth was the "Domino Theory" scare, this was that if Vietnam fell it would be the first of the dominoes to be overwhelmed by the NVA and their allies China and the Soviet Union.
    This force would quickly rampage through S E Asia sweeping all before them until finally occupying Australia and even NZ for good measure. Well Saigon fell in 1975 and I still am awaiting 35 years later, in trembling anticipation, the arrival on the beaches of our top end
    of these Asiatic hordes ( also known as the Yellow Peril ) and sadly the LNP are still spouting Porkies today.

    arbee75
    slapsy
    27th Nov 2012
    2:50pm
    Thank You, arbee75.
    At last some sense into the debate.Where have you been hiding?

    Cheers
    Oldie84
    27th Nov 2012
    3:24pm
    Well to clever in Hindsight is a beautiful. If only we all could be that way.

    Cheers
    Oldie84
    27th Nov 2012
    3:26pm
    Sorry, I forgot the "be"
    Grateful
    27th Nov 2012
    3:20pm
    Lindylou. Your very correct and poignant question as to why Tony Abbott has been so quiet on this subject and leaving it all up to his deputy. I hope that you have been watching question time in the House of Representatives this afternoon where you question was answered by none other that the Prime Minister. SHE was answering another question with the Tony Abbott continually interjecting. The Prime Minister turned to him and said "instead of continually interjecting across the table, why don't you have the guts to ask a question yourself? Nuff said. And THAT'S why the Liberal Party have gagged him, he is just an "interjector" a "knocker" certainly not a leader and the Prime Minister makes him look so foolish.
    Great granny
    27th Nov 2012
    5:26pm
    The so-called Prime Minister we have now doesn't need anyone to make her look foolish she does it all herself - not only a liar but it seems she is about to be proved to be a thief too! While everyone including politicians are arguing about all this stuff-and-nonsense the muslims are invading our country with a smile on their faces!!!!!!
    Solange
    27th Nov 2012
    11:04pm
    Your comments are objectionable, untrue, defamatory, and you appear to be a racist into the bargain. To know that people exist who talk like you is disheartening, to know they bred is scary. Perhaps you are not as 'great' a granny as you think.
    Grateful
    28th Nov 2012
    9:07am
    Agree Solange. Pity her in laws, imagine??
    Now we hear that Julie Bishop has blatantly LIED to all Australians when she said that she has only had one contact, a 10 minute meeting, with that self confessed fraudster that is having a lovely all expenses paid (by whom!!!) holiday in this wonderful country. She is the one that will come out of this garbage with the most rubbish over her. She now has the Fairfax Group after HER neck!! People in glass houses should never throw stones. Bye, bye Ms Bishop and good riddance.
    Michael
    28th Nov 2012
    4:32pm
    Great Granny, will you apologise on this forum when she is not proved to be a liar and a thief---that would seem to be fair.
    Great granny
    30th Nov 2012
    12:11pm
    Wake up you idiots! Did you watch Parliament Question Time yesterday?? I did and it seems to me that she (Julia Gillard) is more of a thief than even I thought! And for your information I don't think of myself as a great granny - I am a Great Granny to 5 great-grandchildren and I want Australia for THEM!!! And another thing I won't be apologising for any of my comments - GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND AND WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!

    27th Nov 2012
    6:41pm
    Why don't we call this forum "THE OFFICIAL LABOUR PARTY PAPER FOR THE OLDER AUSTRALIANS" instead of YOUR LIFE CHOICES.
    It is time for the editor of Your Life Choices to call in her or his troops and tell them that politics is not part of their curriculum and to concentrate on assisting people with what they were hired for, not their own PET PROJECTS, the people will make their own mind up when the elections are called and when that is too hard for them show them the door and get some people who can do the job.
    slapsy
    28th Nov 2012
    12:00pm
    I just had to go back and check what we were supposed to be talking about here.Coming back I could not find anybody off subject And I don't think Australia has abandoned the right to free speach yet,has it.
    retroy
    28th Nov 2012
    9:28am
    The Solange and Grateful sentimental cuddle up is getting a bit sickening when the country is wallowing in debt boat people are increasing and Labour have no policies to stop this trend. Unemployment is bad and business confidence worse so why blame the LNP for no policies because they are not in Government and cannot implement anything until the Australian electorate wake up.
    We have seen what has happened in USA where handouts and socialism have motivated people to retain the Obama government and that country is even more broke.
    Ms Gillard has been exposed with taking liberties with the truth in the past and Ms Bishope is exploiting that situation.
    Ms Gillard ranted on about Mr Abbott's attitude to women not long ago and there were plenty of untruths or exaggerations in that disgusting spiteful speech, so if you cannot stand the heat exit the kitchen.
    lindylou
    28th Nov 2012
    9:43am
    Retroy, the "cuddle up" you are so sickened by is just the opinions of moderate and questioning people trying to look at both sides of the argument. Try it sometime.
    As to this being a Labor Party platform, there are just as many pro Coalition comments up here. This is a public forum, for opinions to be aired by any who choose to do so. Accept that there will be those who don't agree with your views, and just stop whinging.
    Grateful
    28th Nov 2012
    10:17am
    Thank you lindylou. I, too, am a self confessed "swinging voter" and take my politics very seriously. I have voted for over 50 years and have no "political leaning" and have always voted for policies that I believe to be in the best interests of ALL Australians. "Taking sides" must be a shocking feeling as it clearly reduces your otlook and fosters bigotry. Just like peole who "hate Collingwood" for what they allegedly did 50 years ago and has been fostered and developed by those around that time feeding that attitude into their children. That's why the likes of great granny worries me.
    Retroy, the current government does have a policy regarding boat asylum seekers and it was confirmed by the recent bi-partisan committee and it is to incorporate Malaysia into the offshore processing system. EVERYONE, even the asylum seekers themselves (and isn't that very significant) state that Malaysia would be a huge deterrent!!
    The present government was prepared to compromise their position, which had NOT previously thought that Nauru would be a good idea and they have been proven correct.
    Nauru was tony Abbotts number one suggestion!! Yet, just for political advantage, in the hope that the boats will NOT go away, the current opposition refuses to compromise on the Malaysia plan.
    Their "argument" is that Malaysia is not a signatory of the UNHRC convention!! But, they would include countries that are signatories such as many dictatorships in South Africa where the words "human rights" are the laughing stock of the civilized world.
    That is why we get angry with the likes of Tony Abbott. His so called "arguments" are totaolly illogical and patently aimed at populist polling. That's not what we want from our alternative leaders.
    I have been watching this morning's House of Representatives and what a pleasure to see civilized people having civil discussions on major issues for this country. That goes right out of the window when Tony Abbott, Julie Bishop and Christopher Pyne enter the Chamber. WHY??
    Abby
    28th Nov 2012
    10:24am
    THE Prime Minister was braced for a frontal assault from the Opposition about her past, but she didn't expect the spontaneous revolt from her own party over her support for Israel.

    Julia Gillard relied on her authority as Prime Minister when she decided on Monday that Australia would vote in support of Israel in a forthcoming ballot in the United Nations, but her authority proved inadequate. Gillard overruled the strong advice of her Foreign Affairs Minister, Bob Carr, and the overwhelming opinion of her cabinet to insist on her position. This set off a firestorm.

    The uprising was led by Bob Carr. ''He was on the ring-a-round,'' canvassing support for his position, said a factional convener. ''I've never seen a Cabinet minister stand up to a prime minister like that.'' But after being advised that she was about to face a full Caucus revolt on the matter on Tuesday, Gillard capitulated. Importantly, the bedrock support base for Gillard in the Caucus, the Right faction, split.

    While the Victorian bloc of the Right wanted to bind all the faction's votes nationally in support of the Prime Minister, the NSW group refused.

    It was a rare and humiliating backdown for a prime minister.

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/political-news/humiliating-defeat-forces-gillard-to-back-down-over-palestinian-vote-20121127-2a5vc.html#ixzz2DT6Krex2
    Grateful
    28th Nov 2012
    11:06am
    What a very welcome sign to see DEMOCRACY in place in our governing party. And a Prime Minister who is prepared to concede to the majority opinion.
    How different in the Coalition that is being totally steamrolled by their media advisers for purely populist political gain.
    And what a gross exaggeration by that highly significant and influential rag called the "Brisbane Times". I'd rather believe people like Bob Carr who congratulated Julia Gillard on her great leadership in "shaping the decision". THAT's what LEADERS do, not to just dictate THEIR beliefs on everyone else. Democracy wins and so good to see Australia not just following the U.S. and Israel and showing that we are independently minded with a truly democratically led Government. Win/win for all of us.
    Michael
    28th Nov 2012
    4:37pm
    Yes, democracy rather than humiliation---good to see, irrespective of ones political leanings !
    AmandaR
    28th Nov 2012
    7:53pm
    It is brilliant to see the Labor Party going against their leader on a key issue. Now perhaps we will start to see some real cohesion develop instead of factional in-fighting.

    I hope the Coalition can start to practice real politics soon as well, instead of whatever it is they are currently doing.
    Abby
    28th Nov 2012
    11:44am
    The reason for the Labor Party objecting to their PM was because they did not want to loose the Western Sydney vote where there is a very large Arab Population.

    This goes to show how much clout the Arabs have within our own country.
    Grateful
    28th Nov 2012
    12:18pm
    Oh quit quoting populist garbage that you read and hear in the media. That is an absolute furfie Abby.
    I bet you that the Jews have FAR more "clout" in Australia than the Arabs ever will. Get real Abby and open your eyes and your own mind and don't just blindly believe everything that you read and hear. Great way to fend off the Big A too.
    The "abstian" vote is a perfect result albeit it is still just sitting on the fence and until the Palestinians can sort out their own leadership they really can't expect total support. How can anyone really take either "side" in that ongoing conflict? People's lives are at stake yet no one from "any" side over there seems to care so long as they hold on to POWER. No wonder everyone wants to take asylum in Australia, how would you like to live over there?
    Abby
    28th Nov 2012
    2:40pm
    There are legal procedures to be followed and coming here as an Illegal Immigrant is NOT one of them.

    The latest Labor Party policy is that you can but Australian Citizenship if you invest $5 M in Australia over 5 years.

    How long do you think that the eastern border will be Australian ? It will become a separate country.
    retroy
    28th Nov 2012
    12:41pm
    Read more carefully Grateful. I did not say they did not have policies but they are not arresting the negative trends taking this country back wards.
    lindylou
    The same applies to because it was not me suggesting it was a labor platform, and just how is it you can have a strong opinion, but people "like me" cannot ?
    Were you whinging about my comments?
    Hypocrisy of the highest order.
    Great granny
    30th Nov 2012
    12:19pm
    Seems Grateful should give up talking as he certainly doesn't seem to know what he's talking about!!!
    toot2000
    28th Nov 2012
    1:16pm
    Only seven countries are expected to vote again the UN motion - Israel, US, Canada, Micronesia, Palau and the Marshall Islands. If the PM's decision was approved, Australia would have been the eighth. I think there has been a definite shift in thinking about Israel, only two ministers supported Gillard on this and ten didn't.

    One of Labor's most faithful friends of Israel, Bob Hawke was busy on the phone, urging ministers to vote for an abstention. "Israel's policy of allowing the continued expansion of settlements was sabotaging peace and Israel's friends have to send them a message" he said. I think they've got it now.

    We have to stop agreeing with everything our party says and starting thinking for ourselves. I think this is the right decision.
    Grateful
    28th Nov 2012
    4:34pm
    Agree Toot2000. Two wrongs never make a right. Israel has as much to answer for in this dispute as the Palestinians. Israel's continual provocation with its further expansion of settlements PLUS those embargos must be breeding great hatred towards them from the Palestinian people, but, continually firing rockets iwill NEVER achieve a peaceful agreement.
    wscifers
    28th Nov 2012
    5:49pm
    Watching the Prime Minister's performance and her way with words in denouncing the Opposition and their henchman Blewitt makes my heart swell with pride as I realize how superbly she represents our country on "the world stage". I am especially thrilled by the way she says she has dealt with questions before and manages to avoid answering them again and again in her marathon of off topic press conferences. With fascination, I am led to admire she way she avoids answering questions intended to smear her honesty and probity.
    I feel she should bring down the curtain on the witch hunt and commission a royal commission into the slush fund, who did what regarding the slush fund and who got what benefit from it. People who attempt to mislead and lie to the commissioners should be prosecuted for perjury, thus ending this circus and return parliament's focus to the real issues facing Australia instead of the shonky schemings in the past of dishonest union bosses.
    Oldie84
    29th Nov 2012
    8:20pm
    Well said but rest assured it won't happen!!!!

    Cheers
    lindylou
    28th Nov 2012
    6:11pm
    Retroy, This time perhaps YOU should read more carefully. I had dealt with your comments in the first paragraph, and was directing my comments at other contributors in the second paragraph. My opinions are only based on what I can learn from reliable sources, and I have not whinged about anything but apparent partisan, one -eyed comments from BOTH sides of the argument. Anger only clouds the issue further. Thanks to Grateful and Solange for understanding.
    retroy
    29th Nov 2012
    10:51am
    Yes lindylou just like Ms Gillard you have a second go at an issue when challenged, but just like the PM it doesnt wash. You addressed your comments to me and if you wanted to reflect on other comments you could have done so.
    Now you confirm that the last para was directed to me so perhaps your contribution just reflects your confused and muddled thinking,
    There is no anger on my part and never was, but I am saddened by all the delusional do gooders fiddling while "Rome" burns.
    lindylou
    29th Nov 2012
    6:17pm
    Know what? I have really enjoyed this discussion. Thank you to all who have given their opinions and time, no exceptions. I'm looking forward to the next topic.
    marron
    29th Nov 2012
    6:42pm
    Would anyone really expect a UNION led Government to allow true facts about the 'Gillard slush fund' to be exposed? Certain Unions have long been known to be full of thieves and 'stand-over bullies' who are known to make 'facts and truth' (even people) disappear.Today when the Opposition tried to 'Table' paperwork written in Gillards own handwriting the (ALP) Speaker of the House refused to allow Julie Bishop to table them. At no stage today did the PM honestly answer questions correctly, she threw 'mud and slime ' at the Opposition, ranted about many 'off the subject' matters yet not once deny the questions that were asked. The Speaker of the House, continually allowed the PM to rave on ridiculously about Tony Abbott and rarely asked her to answer the actual questions. If the PM is really 'being honest' then why did she have to threaten the Media with a 'Witch-Hunt' if they printed articles which she did not like or want known. She then went ahead and made enough threats that she forced certain journalists to be sacked, fortunately they are still 'getting their messages through' on F/book. Julia Gillard is a person who has been found to tell so many lies, when it suits her that I wonder if she actually believes her own lies now. Surely if she is being totally honest, then it would be in her best interests to once and for all prove it, by having a Royal Commission. I wish the Media would take a long, close look at her 'partner' Tim Mathieson and his background, 'earlier years'--- after all with the history of her relationship with unionist Mr Wilson, her taste in 'friends 'should be checked out, I just find it strange that Tim never seems to mention his past life, pre Gillard.
    AmandaR
    30th Nov 2012
    1:48pm
    What 'Gillard Slush Fund'? I thought it was an AWU slush fund. Are their two funds??

    The reason Mr Abbott did not ask Ms Gillard to answer actual questions is because he didn't seem to be able to get a grip on the issue. He fluffed around the issue - could it have been because he knows the Coalition must be skating close to defamation? As the 'future PM' of this country, I found his performance yesterday sadly lacking.

    Ms Gillard didn't threaten the media with a witch hunt - she accused them of being on a witch hunt. She may well have a point.

    Tim Mathieson seems like a cool kind of guy. Why should he be caught up in any of this. Why should his integrity come into question? What makes people think like you do - that anyone in contact with Ms Gillard must have something sinister in their background. Truly sad Marron.
    Oldie84
    29th Nov 2012
    8:24pm
    Good on you , marron. You cut through the fog and weasel words admirably.But as I said before, no commission or inquiry is going to happen as long as Labor (Unions) are at the steering wheel. Pathetic.
    Cheers
    wscifers
    30th Nov 2012
    10:39am
    When will the PM sue the "Hate Media" newspapers for defamation?
    toot2000
    30th Nov 2012
    3:09pm
    The Labor Party have a real problem on their hands with corrupt union officials and they need to address it. Michael Williamson was voted in as National President of the ALP for 2009-1010. This pillar of the community is charged with 20 offenses and was caught red handed ordering staff to delete computer files from the Hospital Services Union computers. Then we have Craig Thomson, still standing in parliament yesterday, seemingly above the law with no charges laid. And to cap it all off, we have the PM doing favours for her boyfriend, also a union boss, 20 years ago.

    I don't think the PM did herself any favours taking the high ground, denying everything and hurling abuse at the Opposition all week. These allegations are serious and deserve an answer, something she consistently refuses to do.

    How much better would it have been if she had admitted she made some bad decisions. It's much easier to forgive someone who owns up to a bad judgment than someone who "toughs it out" and denies there's a problem when it's staring everyone in the face.

    The Labor Party need to acknowledge the fact that corrupt union officials have been stealing money from unions for years and make damn sure they make it impossible for them to do it in the future. No matter how you look at it, there's a bad stink hovering over Labor at the moment and only time will tell if it's too late to repair the damage.

    30th Nov 2012
    3:55pm
    I don't know why every single question to do with the running of our Country has to be brought down to Politics. Where breaches of the crimes Act, Fed or State are concerned, it should be a matter of Fact. Whether you party hacks are Lib. or Labor, it should be investigated & either "No Billed", or charges laid. These so called charges that have not been laid, against Gillard, will not be really followed up until after the next election. If these accusations had been made against a Company Director, they could be checked by a detective constable first class inside a month & the matter would be dropped or charges would be laid. You don't need any lost files or papers from Slater & Gordon. The account was opened. The money was deposited. The cheques were drawn. That is fact or not, & the written records are with the bank. Where this all stinks is that any potential charges all have to go from the DPP to the Minister & then be passed back. The simple fact of Australian Political life is that when Abbott takes over next year, there is no way that he will be charged for any crime that he may or may not have committed until after the following election. At the same time, you can rest assured that if the accusations against Gillard are correct, she will not be charged before the next election. The facts of the Thomson & the Slipper cases have been with the DPP for a very long time now, but it wont go any further until the election. It stinks.
    Rosebud
    30th Nov 2012
    5:20pm
    I have never heard the opposition degrade themselves by using gutter language such as "put up or shut" "shut up" etc language which the PM uses constantly, very immature and unlady like. She sounds like a babbling banchee. she definitely has a mouth that's foe sure and one not to be proud of.

    She certainly knows and uses all the gutter terms and talks, indicative of many members of the Labor Party. I have never even heard the male front benchers, Labour or Liberal using such gutter language and that is saying something .

    Nor have I heard any of the opposition speak to her this way.

    She is suffering from delusions of grandeur at present me thinks. Also if she is about a fair go for everyone as she claims to be how come she did not insist on doing the mature, ethical thing in accordance with the work place relations regulation ruling and talk with Kevin Rudd about their grievances with regard to his management in order to at least get his side and ultimately rectify the situation. If JG is such a good negotiator why did she not do this instead of following the pack? Obviously because she was thinking about herself, otherwise she would most certainly have suggested mediation before acting.

    Then, to make sure she won the election, she negotiated with the Independents giving them every thing and any amount they asked for just to win and now she has once again, done the dirty and reigned on her deals.

    This PM knows exactly how to get what she wants and how to worm her way out of her mistakes, she seem to have been doing this for a very long time to be so good at it.

    Maybe a wiki leaker will come forward but either way it will never take the stench of the Labor Party from my nostrils.

    Oh, and let us not forget the Labor commissioned their dirt raker's to try and gather as much dirt on the opposition as they possibly could with the intention of doing exactly what the opposition is doing now because of that leaked reported headline.
    Rosebud.
    Grateful
    2nd Dec 2012
    7:35pm
    Yes, won't it be great when the government puts up what they have got on the opposition? They at least don't shut up and are showing some guts and not hiding behind their deputies.
    lindylou
    30th Nov 2012
    8:21pm
    Rosebud you are so out of touch with the world of 10 years ago, that today's world has no relevance for you. "Put up or shut up" is gutter mouth ? Just you take a walk to a cafe in the suburbs and listen to those around you. Our PM has nothing on the people you will come across. Maybe your nose is just too close to the rubbish bin.
    Rosebud
    30th Nov 2012
    11:11pm
    Lindylou I'm not out of touch by a long shot. Its just that I expect the person representing Australia to at least be able to speak as though they had some manners and dignity. I have never heard any other female who represents their country speaking in this manner.
    Grateful
    2nd Dec 2012
    7:39pm
    Rosebud!! "Any other female who represents their country". What has it got to do with the sex of the person. Classic Abbott attitude. Julia Gillard is THE first female Prime Minister of Australia and she doesn't hide behind her sex to take on the bully boys, Abbott and Pyne, when she speaks. Makes THEM like very pathetic being bullied and beaten by a WOMAN, heaven forbid.
    wally
    2nd Dec 2012
    9:25pm
    Glad to read that you think Julia PM doesn't hide behind her sex to take on the "Bully Boys" like Julie Bishop. Who started the misogynist smear campaign against Abbot & Co. in the first place? At least Craig Thomson isn"t a misogynist! Neither, apparently is Peter Slipper despite the proven mollusk/female body parts he thinks is so clever to text to his pals.. I guess Tim Matheson isn't a misogynist either, nor is ex-lover and Union boss and the scandal of misappropriated union funds of the early/ mid 90's.
    Why is it that Slater and Gordon are more protective of their corporate image than the Federal ALP is of theirs?
    According to a national poll released today, only 1 person in 5 believes Julia Gillard is trustworthy and telling the trurh. PS is Kevin Rudd to be listed among the misogynists?


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