Seniors concessions cut

Pensioner and senior cardholders in Queensland are set to lose vital concessions.

Seniors concessions cut

Pensioner and senior cardholders in Queensland are set to lose vital concessions in the wake of the state budget. The state government has included cuts to seniors concessions following the Federal Government’s decision to no longer honour the National Partnership Agreement on Certain Concessions for Pensioner and Seniors Card Holders. This withdrawal of federal funding will cost the Queensland Government approximately $50 million, representing 15 per cent of the monies required to fund the specific senior concessions. The Queensland Government has not yet fully spelt out which concessions will be changed, but those affected are likely to include pensioner rates subsidies, electricity, gas and water rebates, car registration rebates and rail concessions. It will advise the finer detail by 1 October.

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Opinion: Death by 1000 cuts?

How will this affect you?

Whilst it is by no means guaranteed that Joe Hockey’s budget changes to pension age or indexation of the Age Pension will pass the Senate, state governments are already responding to the proposed shifting of costs, particularly in the area of seniors’ concessions. Whether a full Age Pensioner, or self-funded retiree, many older Australians view their concessions as a significant means of income support. So the message from state governments that these entitlements are now on the chopping block is tough. When your main income stream barely covers rent and food, a hike in your power bills and transport costs can be a major blow.

What do you think? Whose fault are these cuts? Has the Queensland Government been forced into cutting these concessions? Or should it have simply found the extra money? How will you be affected?





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    SolJesse
    4th Jun 2014
    10:26am
    NSW Local paper last week informed us that our councils will be also cutting out these discounts. To the amount of $420 in the year. As the Federal government has decided to decrease monies to states, I can't see that the councils will continue to give these discounts.
    KSS
    4th Jun 2014
    10:44am
    Don't confuse local councils with Federal or State Governments. Local councils raise their income from the rates of the residents in their area and investments. Many NSW local councils are embarking on multimillion dollar building redevelopment and this needs to be paid for. My local council went to ipart for a rates increase of over 26% over the next 4 years. This was knocked back to 19% over the same period. But still means an increase in rates over the usual indexed rise. Nothing to do with the Federal budget.
    Anonymous
    4th Jun 2014
    11:13am
    What hap0peend to all those mega-billions these fools were collecting in the Great White Lie Hope - the GST that was going to save us all by taking money out of our children's futures?

    Countless billions have passed through the hands of these clowns and all we have to show for it is more and more costs of living and lower standard of living, and all the GST did was encourage these twits to borrow more and more and run up the bills and cause inflation and social disruption with all their pet projects.

    That's at EVERY level! BILLIONS and they all still cry poor - but they can all afford mega salary increases and fancy projects that look good while the roads and hospitals rot.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    12:30pm
    Congratulations to all those wonderful voters who exercised their rights to vote for their political party: THE LIBERAL PARTY. Now those folk can enjoy their just desserts. It is what it is and we are seeing the tap opened and the money already flowing into the bank accounts of the rich. Well done!!

    I predicted what was going to happen if the LNC was elected but all I heard were the slogans and the lies which the Abbott team were running through the media about Labor mismanagement. Whilst Labor was spending too much and in some wasteful areas it left office with half of what the current deficit is. Have you noticed that this figure is not ever mentioned or in the media any more and that the public is none the wiser. Time for voters to see what is going on.

    Council rates are an ongoing issue. Councils are mismanagers of the worst kind and their cry is ALWAYS "we need more money" with the CPI never enough for them. The rates in my area are around $3000 pa and for this I have a 1 metre deep gully drain outside of my house and a street which often has potholes in it. So welcome to the Gosford shire.
    FrankC
    4th Jun 2014
    3:25pm
    Has anyone seen Clive's reply to the Federal budget. It is on you tube and It really is an eye opener. Shows up all the lies we have been told by ToJo.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:25pm
    Frank: why did you believe the lies during the election campaign? Could you not see that this was run by the big media players who ran a propaganda campaign to get its political party (the Liberal Party) into office? And did you not understand that as soon as that happened money would begin flowing to the rich end of society? Well it has: the rich got superannuation perks and a 1.5% tax cut. The poor got (unmandated) taxes on everything and their superannuation changes dropped. Funny that. it is what it is.
    Make a difference. Vote Independent next election and scare the heck out of the 2 parties which are playing tag with the Australian public.
    Travellersjoy
    4th Jun 2014
    10:29am
    Both governments represent the very well off and are complicit in attacking pensioners instead of raising tax from those who can afford to pay.
    This is a virtual tax on pensioners to protect the wealthy from paying tax. Sale of public assets will also raise prices as in every state where this happened.
    Pensioners who vote for these parties are either very financially secure or thick as bricks.
    Anonymous
    4th Jun 2014
    11:14am
    So true.....
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:13pm
    Yes.
    The real issue is that Australians are living through the sale of everything other nations prize: our biggest and most profitable companies and now freehold farming land, something other nations forbid (for the bleeding obvious reason). When its all gone then the game will be over and if you think that Australians will have a job then think again. And all other areas will be hit as well, including pensions. But of course Australians are not capable of looking ahead and these word are for the most part wasted on people who live for now and complain when bad things affect them. Who they voted in at the last election should be a clear example if it were not so sad...and the pain will be worse in the next budget as Hockey said "we're not finished yet". Good luck folks. The electorate always gets what it deserves!!
    will
    4th Jun 2014
    10:30am
    Pensioners seem to be the easiest target for cuts - all you politicians why don't you cut your salaries & allowances for a change!!!!! Don't pick on pensioners!!! We paid enough taxes during our working life!!!!! As a matter of fact we are paying you lot of scums -
    LENYJAC
    4th Jun 2014
    10:54am
    THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE FOR THESE OVERPAID SCUMBAGS TO GIVE THEMSELVES ANOTHER WAGE RISE..YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK OTHERWISE."" MARK MY WORDS""
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:15pm
    Pensioners have themselves to blame. If they formed a voting block and voted out the scumbags they routinely voted in then the game would be up and things would change in a real hurry. But the reality is that pensioners want to have their historical party so they have to live with the (self inflicted pain) which occurs.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:15pm
    Pensioners have themselves to blame. If they formed a voting block and voted out the scumbags they routinely voted in then the game would be up and things would change in a real hurry. But the reality is that pensioners want to have their historical party so they have to live with the (self inflicted pain) which occurs.
    KSS
    4th Jun 2014
    1:39pm
    You cannot use the same "we paid taxes all our lives" to argue for both the federal government pension and state provided concessions. How much do you think you paid and how much are you expecting to be 'reimbursed' after retirement? That of course takes not account of the education and health you and your children have already received. Income tax does not go to the states it is a federal tax. A cheap bus ticket is not the province of the federal government for example. Every State and Territory has its own catalogue of concessions they may or may not give and are not uniform across the country either in type or amount. You can't have it both ways.
    RosePerth
    4th Jun 2014
    2:38pm
    Mick, you seem to assume that all pensioners vote Liberal. I don't "routinely" vote for any particular party, "historical or not, and nor do any of my family or friends. We vote according to policy etc at the time. In fact, with the Senate ballot paper I spent a couple of days looking up the policies of the candidates before making my choice BELOW the line.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:31pm
    My apologies RosePerth. I do understand that what you say is correct but this deceitful government was voted in on a big majority and many people were conned and did not look at the facts. Indeed I hear some people on this blog spewing out the Abbott election propaganda....which Clive Palmer has debunked for the lies which it was and is.
    I am glad that you understand the media's role in this miscarriage and that you, unlike most Australians, bothered to do some research rather than look at the placards on the way in to the polling booth and pick somebody with the right smile. I mean why do people think that these placards are positioned near polling booths? Answer: for the feeble minded.
    Well done. Keep up the good work. You are doing what all Australians need to do but which few ever do.
    Luchar
    4th Jun 2014
    6:51pm
    KSS,
    Sadly you are one of the rare voices of sanity on this forum. It matters not whether the lead topic is whaling in the Antarctic, coconut growing in the tropics, or the polar bear population in the Arctic, the argument on this forum will always turn to "I've paid taxes all my working life and am therefore entitled to get everything for free for the rest of my days, and if I don't, it's Tony Abbott's fault."

    Sorry all you whingeing pensioners. You became too used to all the handouts of the past. Did you ever question the source of the $900 so generously handed over by Rudd? It was borrowed money, like so much else of the largesse provided over the past six years. The time has come to start paying off the credit card debt, and since we all 'benefited' from the handouts, the excesses, the over-budget failures, the unfulfilled promises and the waste of the past six years, it now behoves us all to play a part in paying back the borrowed money and paying off the debt - unless, of course, you are all quite happy to continue to live the good life and leave an even bigger mess to be paid for by your children and grandchildren
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    7:10pm
    Luchar, cruel and mean. Obviously you too have never lived in the real world. Tojo and Tony would be proud of you.
    particolor
    4th Jun 2014
    7:30pm
    Luchar..Get Real !! ..Rudd only gave us back PART of the Money Howard Stole from us !!..I waited 6 Bloody Months once in the Howard years for a Buck Bloody Eighty rise in Pension ?? What the Daffy Duck was I going to do with that Fortune ?? It wasn't even enough to Ring KirraBully House to complain !!
    Luchar
    4th Jun 2014
    7:49pm
    Cruel and mean, maybe. Honest and correct, definitely. If living in the real world means having had a job and paying taxes throughout my working life and now relying on a part pension to live out my final years, then, Ahjay, I have lived and do continue to live in the real world. Further, I care not whether Tony would be proud of me. I do care what sort of world I leave behind for my grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and that world is not the one that the overwhelming number of pensioners commenting on this site seem to want to leave behind. When we went to the polls last year, I refuse to believe that any of us were so out of touch that we thought we could continue the way we had during the previous six years, but it appears that those contributing to this forum seemed to believe that any cutbacks should only affect others.
    Luchar
    4th Jun 2014
    8:02pm
    particolor,

    Sadly many of your fellow Coalition-haters on this forum disagree with you. There have been numerous posts in recent times telling us all that the real cause of the debt built up by Rudd and Gillard was actually the fault of John Howard, because during the early years of the mining boom, which occurred under his Prime Ministership, Howard was far too generous with his handouts. As result of the Howard handouts, so we were told, the $20 billion left in the bank for Rudd-Gillard was much less than it should have been.

    So, you can't have it both ways, particolor, blaming Howard for stealing from you while others criticise him for being too generous.
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    8:41pm
    Luchar, I am sorry but I probably do not fit your,profile. I am 73 years old,work full time and support a very good independent politician in my electorate. I draw no government benefits,however, about 70% of the people in my community are pensioners and i see their daily struggle. They are not on Easy Street. On a daily basis I see their trepidation over the proposed federal budget cuts plus Candoo Newman's knife about to slice the final sliver of flesh from their bones.Joe Hockey pays more for a Cuban Cigar than these people spend on their daily meals. I too fear for the future as the top1% becomes the top 0.9%,0.8% etc. I have children and grandchildren. I am afraid I see nothing for them but slavery as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
    Luchar
    4th Jun 2014
    9:39pm
    Ahjay,
    Criticising Hockey for smoking a Cuban cigar and the rich for getting richer is more the politics of envy than the political answer to Australia's debt problems. Look at the background of the Hockey family. This is the type of hard working family which achieves the type of success which we should be encouraging, not criticising because they worked hard for their achievements. Further, it is the wealthy of our country who are the ones who invest in industry and open business ventures and so provide employment for others.

    I can accept that pensioners stuck with paying high rents would be struggling. My now departed parents lived in public housing and relied solely on their pension. A holiday for them was a train trip to spend time with my family. My mother-in-law is in her nineties, relies solely on her pension for income and lives on her own. She owns her home. She pays for 4 hours care a week, pays to have her lawns mown and her gardens maintained, and pays for all household expenses. She enjoys a trip to the cinema, occasional theatre and concerts and an occasional restaurant meal. While in general good health for her age, she has regular visits to her doctor and will have no trouble covering her ten x $7.50 medicare co-payments inside about two months. If my parents and my mother-in-law manage a comfortable, if not luxury, lifestyle relying solely on their pensions, what do they do differently from all of those you claim are facing a daily struggle?
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    8:40am
    Lucher Be More Specific ! Who are THEY ??....
    And as for Your last Lib comment there.. I'll bet You or Your Tribe are paying their Power and Phone Bills ??..Or they wouldn't be able to Scratch themselves ,let alone Go Ta Ta's !! ... Have Fun....
    Irishwolfhound
    6th Jun 2014
    12:18pm
    Perhaps KSS could ask Malcolm Fraser what he did with the Age Pension fund that he disbanded when he got into office? It was a fund set aside for paying pension money into and was to be used for that purpose only.` It would have had about $500,000 paid in for each person when retiring at 65. That is not including interest on that amount. He took it out and put it into "General Revenue" and it was never seen again!! So do not say that pensioners do not have a right to a pension. If they had the right to have put that money in their own accounts, as people can do now, then they would have enough to support themselves. Instead they allowed this cheating lying politician to 'manage' their funds into oblivion!
    Geminiwoman
    4th Jun 2014
    10:38am
    This Govt. doesn't seem to realise that they are OUR EMPLOYEES and they can be sacked as soon as another election comes along. Sadly, the damage will be done by then. I feel, as do many, that the Govt. would be quite happy if all 65's and over and disability pensioners just threw themselves off a cliff. It should be mandatory for all politicians to have to live on the pension for a period not less than 3 months. See how they feel about it then.
    LENYJAC
    4th Jun 2014
    10:56am
    SHOULD BE SACKED WITH NO PERKS """"NOW""""
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:17pm
    Governments know that the electorate is easily swayed and conned. The last election campaign and result should be a testament to this. Who gives a damn what voters think....it is about whether or not you can deceive them. This is how the system works.
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    3:19pm
    Careful,compulsory culling (oops, euthanaisa ) may be next.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:32pm
    Only for politicians who lie I hope.
    particolor
    4th Jun 2014
    7:11pm
    Lowest paid just got $18.70 a WEEK !! So You are now down about 18 Bucks a fortnight ALREADY !! I'll go overseas till it all Blows Over I think ?? .. I love it when a Plan Comes together !! STREWTH !!! I hope He forgets about us Bugging His Phone ??.And turning some Sea Farers Back ??
    Anonymous
    4th Jun 2014
    8:21pm
    As soon as my assets are liquidated I'll be off overseas - I can hire a builder for ten bucks a day in some places and develop some nice property and stuff.. apart from that I can live reasonably on a pension without all this stress and idiocy as a daily ration....

    I've grown convinced this country is populated by the brain-dead, the insane, and/or the utterly stupid. I thought it was only the city I came from - industrial and I always say brain-damaged by pollution - but it seems there are only a very few spots here not occupied by the insane fringe....

    4th Jun 2014
    11:10am
    Wait until I get the Senate onside with what they should be doing:-

    vi) There is no requirement anywhere for acceptance of one part of any bill to imply or indicate in any way acceptance of the bill as a whole. It is entirely within the power of the Senate to reject any bill presented for payment that is not in accordance with the rules.

    vii) Portions deemed to be unacceptable, illegal, or to be not in the interests of Australia and Australians of any appropriation bill may be rejected by the Senate while allowing other portions of the same bill to pass.

    Let's look at this situation:- I am building a house, a supplier presents me with a bill for components - that bill includes things I have not ordered or billing for goods not up to standard or as ordered, and which I return.....

    Do you expect me to pay that bill without question?

    NO - YOU DO NOT! Now think it through......

    The Senate may block part of a bill if it has the balls to do so, and if ToJo don't like it they can run another commission of idiots to revamp their next attempt at rorting the older and infirm. We can afford that - if we can afford one round of the likes of Vanstone for free we can afford another or ten.... plenty of money where that came from!

    Good strand developing here:-

    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1401828787/15#15

    Gutless Labor again - when ToJo and the Toecutters chop off your pension and extras and call you spoilt - do you really think those feminsted twerps will put them back again?

    Pensioner Party Arise! You have nothing to lose but your shackles!
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:21pm
    Have you not heard Tony Abbott INSTRUCTING the senate to pass his deceitful and non mandated budget initiatives? The man is unbelievable and he thinks that dealing with the senate is like dealing with the Australian public.
    The only way Abbott is going to get his dishonest budget through is to bribe at least 3 senators.
    Whilst I wait to see what Clive Palmer wants (I have a gut feeling that this is on the books despite Clive's support of the public to date) this may get the budget through.
    Dukki
    4th Jun 2014
    11:56am
    I guess the poor overpaid pensioners are again going to wear the brunt of the official cuts. I say overpaid beause he governments both federal and local seem to think that we must be. but it is OK for them to give themselves a wooping big pay raise when they seem to think hey deserve it.. this is not on, the trouble is they know that the pensioner wili take it, what are he pensioners going to do, hit them with their walking sticks,
    I realise that costs have top be made, but as pensioners have already paid their lifelong taxes they are entitled to to life with dignity/ Perhaps the government shuld reconstruct the taxes so that no one pays taxes until they retire , then the government would realise just how much taxes have been already paid by the pensioner. But that wouldnt work as who would have to blame for taking all the money in benefits. I guess Animal farm is alive and well, in Queensland, but instead of two legs better thnn four, it is a case of greed i better than dignity.
    Im ropeable , but it is a voice in the wilderness...............
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:23pm
    The "poor overpaid pensioners" should not have voted in the Liberal government. So who is to blame? Self inflicted stupidity from what I can see.
    Nightshade
    4th Jun 2014
    12:10pm
    I have gazed into my crystal ball & saw the PENSION AGE will become 60 years, simply because it it CHEAPER -All this attempt at SNATCH & GRAB is costing the greedy bastards a small fortune for little return.
    Which one of you is rich ?
    I am not.

    However today they wish us "GUIDE" us aged ones to sign up to their Micky Mouse Courses at $10.000 & $20.000 a pop -
    SO AS TO GET US INTO DEBT TO THEM -
    then they will try to introduce again the - "WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM YOUR DECEASED ESTATE" over riding your will & all.
    These OUTSTANDING HECS DEBTS they were talking about the OTHER DAY
    COULD HAVE BEEN OLDIES FRIGHTENED OR BAMBOOZLED INTO TAKING A COURSE SO AS TO FLEECE THEM IN DEATH - GORY BUGGARS.

    ACCORDING TO :-
    THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES U.S.
    people 65+ representing 12.4% of the population are expected to grow to 19% in 2030.
    DUE TO WELL BEING............

    THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL & PREVENTION U.S.
    Deaths & Mortality - Preliminary Data 2011.
    Death rate 779.5 deaths per 100.000 population Infant mortality rate 6.15 deaths per 1.000 live births.
    LIFE EXPECTANCY 78.7 YEARS -THIS FIGURE WOULD BE FOR WHAT -
    50% OF THE POPULATION
    60% OF THE POPULATION
    70% OF THE POPULATION
    ..............................SO MUCH FOR LONGEVITY & REACHING 19% BY THE YEAR 2030.

    I WILL BE DEAD AT ANY TIME FORM TODAY TO 15 YEARS FROM NOW & NOT MUCH LONGER.
    Nightshade
    4th Jun 2014
    12:29pm
    What we have here is -
    A BAD GUNSLINGER NAME A SALTY SAM (wishin' & hopin' & plannin' & dreamin' ) CHASING POOR SWEET SUE
    THEN ALONG CAME JONES
    RAY STEVENS
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:24pm
    So where you been for the last 2 months?
    john
    4th Jun 2014
    12:19pm
    thisQld state budget is an attack on the portion of the community least able to afford fighting it. why weren't the overpaid high income getters targeted? it seems the more people are payed the less they want to help the pensioners.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:25pm
    Self inflicted mate. You should have voted for a good Independent rather than the Woollies and Coles of politics. You get what you deserve you know.
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    5:06pm
    Where do you shop Mick IGA? I prefer Coles to Woolworths
    Andy
    4th Jun 2014
    12:31pm
    Sadly what Australian politicians need, is a man like the Thailand general to take over and straighten them out, and weed out the corrupt.He is doing a fantastic job over here. Politicians the world over must be hating this man, he has proved that politicians are lazy, useless,money grabbers, Amen.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:26pm
    Watch out for Furher Abbott. This would have to be a real concern given the man's attempts to tell all Australians what they should do.
    fearlessfly
    4th Jun 2014
    12:40pm
    I think it's high time we followed the 3rd world lead, like what is happening in Thailand at the moment, the citizens uprising in public defiance demonstrations all over Australia and throwing the current bunch of bastards out of office. Who knows, a military junta is probably better than the shitty alternatives we have to choose from !
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:28pm
    A few demonstrations would help but you would be lucky to get apathetic Australians would refuse to leave the Club, the armchair in front of the TV or the footy match. Somebody else's job I dare say. So you get what we all truly deserve and we will only act once it is too late. What ever much changes.
    Supernan
    4th Jun 2014
    12:50pm
    When they talk about the increasing aged population, do they take into account:
    1. The massive increase in obesity in the population which will cause early deaths
    2. The large amount of alcohol people consume on a daily basis & consider as "normal" which Drs are now warning is dangerous to health.
    ?????????
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:31pm
    We have rights mate. We have the same rights as gen Ys who are smashed up in the Cross and expect free hospital treatment, as alcoholics who destroy theie own lives as well as that of their families and expect free medical treatment, as drug addicts and a whole bunch of other dead beat Australians who cost us all because of their laziness and lifestyles. So are pensioners to be put into a different category? Rules for some and (different) rules for others? Hmmm.
    Ted
    4th Jun 2014
    12:59pm
    How about politicians get all their concessions cut first? They get many and don't even pay full price for their meals at parliament house. They do not need any concessions or discounts so why are they getting them? Lead by example Mr Abbott and Hockey!
    Budwah
    4th Jun 2014
    1:24pm
    And I'll bet they don't pay fringe benefits tax on their lurks and perks!
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:34pm
    Quite so. But did you hear the Abbott justification of the "heavy lifting" - politicians would have to bear the temporary (2 year) Deficit Tax. What Abbott omitted to say (what else would you expect) is that federal pollies DOUBLED THEIR PAY PACKETS in an 18 month period not too long ago. The next deceit from the most deceitful and dishonest government I can ever remember!!
    Nan Norma
    7th Jun 2014
    8:49pm
    mick you are spot on
    Gayrama
    4th Jun 2014
    1:12pm
    The people who voted these twits in are is where the blame lay. The first thing this gov got was a pay rise. So what else can you expect. We played the game all our working lives and it is the gov of the day that squanders the taxes we pay each and every day we earn and spend. The next opportunity to change this is coming nearer each and every day too.
    KSS
    4th Jun 2014
    1:32pm
    No Gayrama, this government did not get a pay rise. The pay went up last year to make up for a freezing before. This government has now had its pay frozen. It may get it back (with interest) in the future but there is enough to criticise that is true without the need to make things up.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:35pm
    Yes. Tell that to the die hard liberal voters on this blog who actually think they did the right thing and who quote the Abbott slogans and lies like a Chinese quoting the little red book. It does make you want to puke.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    1:37pm
    Be smart. VOTE INDEPENDENT as this is the way to fix the your turn/my turn game. I fear that Australians will simply put Labor back in and that this will not fix the problems of the nation............which stem from the sell out of the nation to foreign investors who own almost everything. Why else do you think that jobs are disappearing folks!!
    Nightshade
    4th Jun 2014
    1:33pm
    Years ago, in an exceptional interview with Terry Lane Australian Radio Presenter Extraordinaire - Roald Dahl said that the most dangerous men on earth are those 21 years old.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:02pm
    I used to be....but I retired.
    particolor
    4th Jun 2014
    7:15pm
    Lucky they only stay in Danger for 1 Year AY !!
    Mar
    4th Jun 2014
    1:51pm
    This is another one of this governments well thought out plans. Undermine pensioners and aged even more by stripping off the few concessions they get to help with basic needs and to make their lives more comfortable. With a bit of luck this will ensure they depart this world earlier and improve the deficit!!
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:06pm
    Don't get angry, get even. Vote Independent and send a message. And if you think that Independents have a look at what they tried to achieve in the last parliament. If the grubby business owned Liberal Party had not stopped them then we would have had gambling addicts protected from themselves and greedy clubs and pubs and less youth killed on the streets, again from the Pubs and Clubs with their demands to sell grog with no restriction.
    Stop complaining. Make your vote count lest you are unhappy with what YOU have done.
    nettiser
    4th Jun 2014
    1:58pm
    Take out a fatwah on the State Government. Proteest aginst their high income low productivity. Once we cripple local government then off to parliament and the high courts
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:06pm
    Put local councils at the top of this list.
    particolor
    4th Jun 2014
    7:20pm
    Yep!! The Skinnywah didn't work ! Time for a Tubbywah !!
    Rob
    4th Jun 2014
    2:34pm
    Malcolm Turnbull just sent an email asking for a donation for people who sleep in the street. Replied and said there will be many more pensioners joining them on the footpath. People of all persuasions should be out there marching in huge numbers. Only in Australia will they sit there until they starve. In France they march on their government literally in millions when things are nowhere as bad as what the government is pushing on pensioners, let alone any other lousy trick they are pulling.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:09pm
    I got this email. Whilst I respect Turnbull for supporting such a good cause I cannot support his government, the most dishonest bunch of liars in living memory. This crew have no shame and the sad fact is that they were voted in by Australians who were fooled by the lies....and maybe mothers wanting 6 months paid time off from work. There is no free lunch!
    brainstraina
    5th Jul 2014
    12:26am
    ROB, France has other problems which we don't. So, the millions there march on their governments; but all the marching, rioting and burning will cause more trouble in the long run - when some of their 'freebies' disappear, i.e. university, health.
    All that protesting is losing vast amounts of taxpayers money.
    heyyou
    4th Jun 2014
    2:42pm
    What do you expect Australian political system is stuffed, is full of corruption and no accountability. What other system (medical surgery excluded) can you promise something, gain an advantage (elected), then do the opposite.
    If you or I did this in our work place you would be jailed for fraud.
    There has to be a new accountable political system, if not the future will be uncertain and all people will disobey the laws in order to survive. GOD HELP US ALL.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:11pm
    We need to be able to force a government to resign when it acts corruptly. But what we have is dishonest and deceitful government with no accountability where the pollies thumb their noses at the public with total disrespect. It needs to end. So where is the so called free Press????
    Luchar
    4th Jun 2014
    7:11pm
    To HEYYOU and mick,
    I wonder if the two of you have been calling for the resignation of the government over the past six years following Gillard's, "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead", and Rudd's lengthy list of unfulfilled promises. Or is your call for the end of broken promises only confined to Abbott and the Coalition?

    You might also recall that since he became leader of the Coalition Abbott has continually promised to stop the boats, to abolish the carbon tax and to abolish the mining tax. The first of these he is well on the way to accomplishing despite the efforts of the Left to derail his efforts. He has been unable to keep his other two widely publicised and oft-repeated promises due to Shorten and Labor in the Senate, yet this same Shorten now harps on about Abbott's broken promises.

    Perhaps, HEYYOU and Mick, you should be critical of Shorten for not allowing Abbott to keep these two promises.
    Anonymous
    4th Jun 2014
    8:02pm
    I've been calling for the termination of the whole bloody lot of them since the 1980's - without a single perk to guide them into millionaire status....
    heyyou
    5th Jun 2014
    12:35pm
    Luchar, What I said was "the system must change", I have not called for sackings, I have called for accountability from all political parties (plural).
    Change of policy or broken promises after you are elected (these policy changes were not what the people of Australia voted for) takes the decision making process out of the peoples control. This is truly dangerous for us all.
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    2:53pm
    I am finding it much easier to understand why other nations have revolutions.

    Nationalise the Commonwealth Bank and Telstra, Their current market value would go close to covering the budget deficit. The dividends they pay would cover the national interest bill. They belonged to the people and were sold without our permission. Why should we not reclaim that which is rightfully ours.
    greatgolly
    4th Jun 2014
    3:01pm
    It seems we are back to what I have said before, the polies are always in it for themselves, their parties, ad to hell with the poor! Noted it should have been what I have said previous in dubbing Abbot as King John and Campbell Newman as his Sherriff of Nottingham, and do you think for one minute that the likes of Palmer and Xenophon can not be bribed with riches, of course they can and they will!

    It matters not what we pensioners say, or do for that matter, we are always and forever easy picking for governments to pillage so that they (politicians) and the wealthy get richer and richer; I have not, and I have mixed with the marauders trying to get funds to help others and it is a battle like none other; easier I think to get blood out of a stone! Pollie part with nothing g and take everything they can, but not one is going to pass the Pearly Gates I assure you.

    Many years ago I tried to enter politics so those that haven't would have a voice, but do you know what, because I would not lean to this party or that party and I threatened them that I will prove how corrupt they are, I nearly got killed over it, that is how far they will go if they think their way of life is threatened; anyway, other than some having to step down just in case I had the proof. Anyway, bringing a long story short, I never got in because all I said in my polling was that I would be honest to all, promise nothing I cannot give, but I would work hard to do the right thing; I didn't get in as the others promised this and that and that's what the people wanted to hear, promises of this and that but blindly, they got nothing and the pollies increased their pay, increased the taxes, and made the poor poorer! All in all, it seems to work every time, pollies promise and the people gullibly put them in like lambs to the slaughter!

    I remember when Hockey as a student leader led the students almost into a riot demanding free education is a right for all, of course he was a student then, but now he's got his education and he's got all his money, it's to hell with everyone other than the rich and wealthy. I do believe we need a voice, but who is going to put their hand up to lead a revolt against the governments both State and Federal, any honest offers?
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:15pm
    Vote Independent. This is the ONLY WAY to end the current system where the country is intentionally mismanaged by both sides of politics. Until this happens it is simply more of the same your turn/my turn game. If voters do not wise up then don't complain. You have the fix.
    Mar
    4th Jun 2014
    4:04pm
    At the last election, for the first time in my voting life I voted independent.I can't see how I can ever vote for a major party again. I agree with Travellersjoy. Will we ever again have a true statesman/woman as Primeminister? One who represents the main interests and welfare of the people and not his or her own self interest.I still can't believe that this government would so blatantly take from the poor to promote the wealthy.
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:17pm
    Smart man. If only Australians would act en mass the whole political system would change over night and both the Labor Party and the Liberal Party would self heal because if they did not they would be dead.
    So why are Australians so dumb and continue to vote as they always have? is the ballot box not there for a reason rather than a controlled and contrived game?
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    4:14pm
    The example given re: Queensland. The Federal Government funding for that State is $50 Bil. representing only 15% of the total cost required to fund the concessions . Presumably if the Fed. Gov. contribution is withdrawn, then the State of Qld reductions in concessions to seniors should not be be greater than 15%???
    MICK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:20pm
    The real problem in Queeensland is that Campbell Newman, who stated that "we are in the business of coal", has put all of his eggs in the one basket. Not only has the federal government taken away funding but also the price of coal and iron ore are way down, and coal is going to die as renewables begin to bite. Newman might have put all of his eggs in one basket but even he cannot manipulate renewables as he may want because this is an unstoppable train which with the price of solar still dropping through the floor will see his bet on coal blow up in his and his state's face. Perhaps there is some justice in the world after all.
    heyyou
    4th Jun 2014
    4:24pm
    The time is fast approaching where all levels of governments are able to do what ever they want with no regard to the people they represent. The Roman's Cesar never had it this good.
    The political system must change back to "BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE" otherwise our next generation will take up alms and as with all revolts the innocent will pay the heaviest price.
    No political power will ever stand against subjugating its own people and this is what we have the start of now. No present political party has the respect nor trust of the people.
    THIS MUST CHANGE.
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    4:42pm
    Why do you think "LITTLE JOHNNIE" took our guns. I believe at least 90% of conspiracy theories have substance,especially when denied by the press and politicians.
    We are following the "American Way" ' . The top 1% own 95% of the wealth and they are desperate to get the other 5%.
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    4:46pm
    The time is ripe for a revolution!
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    4:33pm
    Some say Australia is becoming or maybe already is the most expensive and taxed country in the developed world, not only for pensioners but everyone else as well. If this is the case then less people will want to migrate here, including refugees. Can't somehow see this happening. Hopefully there is a the "cloud" has a silver lining and overtime pensioners (all) regardless of assets/income are treated fairly at all levels of Government.
    Mar
    4th Jun 2014
    4:50pm
    Mick, I don't think it's about being dumb. I think it's a mixed bag of fear of change, apathy and maybe not having suffered enough yet. Pain, deprivation, grief all lead to change.Certainly by what I hear and see, the community in general have lost trust and respect, but change is inevitable. If this budget goes through in its entirety there will be a lot more pain in the future.
    douwe26
    4th Jun 2014
    4:52pm
    Maybe we as pensioners and retirees could get help from big switch or over 50 `s group I think it would be helpfull we just seem to be a joke by the pollies
    Waytoopoortobeme
    4th Jun 2014
    4:56pm
    I see another kick in the guts has been introduced when determining ongoing fees payable by Aged Care Residents, the HOME will now become an ASSESSABLE ASSETT when determining ongoing fees to B paid by the residents.
    Its a given this is likely to B introduced in the not to distant future to the Age Pension.
    KSS
    4th Jun 2014
    7:46pm
    If you are in aged care why do you need the 'family' home? Aged care is typically a one-way street. You can't live in two places at once.
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    7:50pm
    KSS to leave to your beneficiaries in a will ( Children, Grandchildren)
    douwe26
    4th Jun 2014
    4:56pm
    Call for a double dissolusion is warranted now
    Wendy HK
    4th Jun 2014
    4:58pm
    Can we please have Pauline Hansen back and all of this is making Clive Palmer and Bob Katter look like a preferred alternative.
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    5:05pm
    All three look pretty good to me compared. At least they plainly state their position.
    bookwyrm
    5th Jun 2014
    12:00pm
    I‘m willing to vote for PUP and never thought I would ever say that!
    bookwyrm
    5th Jun 2014
    12:00pm
    I‘m willing to vote for PUP and never thought I would ever say that!
    Patriot
    4th Jun 2014
    5:01pm
    We are paying them "Big Bucks & Exorbitant Perks" . . . . . . . Unfortunately, we STILL seem to get monkeys.
    Or was that Criminals, Thieves & Liars.

    Pollies become honest and just for once, do an honest days work for your true bosses: The Australian taxpayer!".
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    5:03pm
    Comments by Mr Joe Hockey(today)

    Quote
    Today the Australian Bureau of Statistics released updated information on the state of the economy.

    It was encouraging news:
    The Budget forecast of 2.75 per cent growth in 2013-14 is on track;
    Real gross domestic product increased by 1.1 per cent in the March quarter;
    Australia’s export volumes increased by the highest percentage since September 2000;
    Our current account deficit as a share of GDP was the smallest since March 1980;
    Productivity growth is solidly positive; and
    Construction of homes is picking up – which is good news for tradies and small businesses.

    The national accounts showed that the economy is resilient and that Australia has a solid foundation for growth.

    It demonstrates that the Government’s Economic Action Strategy for a strong, prosperous economy is working.

    This result is on the back of 106,000 new jobs being created in the economy over the first four months of this year including 79,000 full-time jobs.

    These are good figures and strong foundations.

    These foundations will be further strengthened by the decisions we made in the Budget to tackle Labor’s debt and deficits.

    I am confident that the abolition of the Carbon Tax and Mining Tax on 1 July will assist job creation and encourage investment.

    Unquote
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    8:45am
    Bring back Rubbery Figures !! I liked that Show !!...
    Crazy Horse
    5th Jun 2014
    8:22pm
    Doesn't sound like a"budget emergency".
    wally
    4th Jun 2014
    5:06pm
    We'll all be "rooned" and it's all Rupert Murdoch's fault. Or is it Gina Rheinhart's fault? Maybe it's both of them. Or is it Campbell Newman?
    octagenarian+2
    4th Jun 2014
    5:22pm
    Queensland has just "jumped the gun", I am quite sure that the other state have got what's left of their admin staff working on what concessions they are going to reduce. As for me, I do not know how I am going to find the extra money to make up for these concessions - who wants to employ an 82 year old?
    Ahjay
    4th Jun 2014
    5:25pm
    Give Joe a call. He may need a serf to light his Cuban cigars.
    older&wiser
    4th Jun 2014
    11:06pm
    Totally agree. I have been helping a mid 70's single friend, who is solely on the Aged Pension. She has barely survived to date on the pension, and I often worry about her mental and emotional well being. She does not waste money, but has nothing to spare. Now, with talks of the pension concession cuts, she is beyond distraught. On the very day of these announcements, she received a letter stating her house insurance will increase 26%. Last week, her home security system went up 13%. Her remote door on the garage needs replacing but she cannot afford the money to pay for it. She can't afford to go out, but can't afford to stay in her own little house - with the cost of electricity, she limits the time the TV is on, and the air conditioning, and the lights. As she said to me - 'this isn't living - this is merely existing'. What scares me more is that this will be me in a few years time. Who wants to employ an 82yo? - you can't find anyone to employ 50 year olds! Get the distinct impression that the Govts - both State & Federal - just don't ant us oldies around.
    Goosemoon
    4th Jun 2014
    5:28pm
    Mick so what only pensioners voted Abott in!!!!!!!!!
    The cuts to states funding in the Federal Budget will have a flow on effect of course they will have less money to pass on. Why is it the pensioners always get hit is anyone guess but we always do.
    The minor parties need to really stand up and be counted in the senate and not make deals to show voters that it is worth considering to vote for them.
    heyyou
    4th Jun 2014
    5:43pm
    The Queensland economy is dire and needs financial injection this is closely followed by N.S.W, S.A is in debit, Victoria is in surplus this is why Queenslanders are relocating to Victoria for employment, (more people migrating to Victoria from Queensland).
    This has not stoped the Victorian Napthine government from raising state taxes to fund gigantic, costly infrastructure projects and put more pressure on those who can least afford these tax rises.
    When governments do this it raises discontent (anger) in the community as we feel our economic circumstances are not being considered, we are reduced to cannon fodder.
    THE SYSTEM MUST CHANGE.
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    8:48am
    You will be out of the POO soon, He is going to sell all the Major Ports !! He must own them ??
    Mar
    4th Jun 2014
    5:52pm
    Niemakawa, if the "current account deficit as a share of GDP " is the smallest since 1980 and Joe Hockey is stating we are doing SO GOOD (the budget has only been out a couple of weeks and not even passed yet), why are they crucifying the pensioners in so many ways? It's all so ad hoc. Now he's trying to improve his status because of the backlash at his unfair budget.He just digs himself in deeper.
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    5:58pm
    Maybe you would like to express your view and ask questions of Mr Hockey. @

    webmaster@liberal.org.au
    sylvie60
    4th Jun 2014
    6:21pm
    just read today an unemplyed single not working, collected $230,000... since 1991 when newstart started....it would take me 10 yrs to earn that ammount on my present wages and id have to work a 25 hr week to get that ammount....support the pensioners who most like me have worked 30 yrs to get their benifits...I turn 65 next year...If the extras are cut..i will be worse off....they support dole bludgers and make their elderly suffer, what a joke this government are...our taxes supports the wrong end of the age scale...shame shame shame
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    6:29pm
    Probably not an isolated incident either. The budget will make it more difficult to access "Newstart" for those under 30. There will be a waiting period of 6 months and for those under 25 they will have to engage in some form of study/training
    relevant). Plus the work for the dole will be re-introduced to give the long term unemployed some opportunity to gain new or update existing skills.
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    9:03am
    The only existing Skills I see them updating where I live is 2 Cartons of FourXXXX instead of one,and Extra Bong Fuel ??... Get them to School ? What a JOKE !! Now I've got to go out to My car and see if I've got any petrol left in it, and Pick up all the Rum & Coke tins and Macca Wrappers from last night in the car park !! It was dole Day !! Ill have to step over the Broken glass to get there though as one of the Goats shoved their fist through it !?!?.. but its their window not mine, It happens often and the Loving Housing Department Fixes it for them ?? How Nice !!..Enjoy Your Day !!
    bookwyrm
    5th Jun 2014
    12:07pm
    These changes to welfare to the young are a bad idea. A lot of them are decent and genuinely looking for a job. The others will turn to crime, like robberies, muggings and home invasions of which the rest of us will be the target. There is already too much crime to worry about.
    niemakawa
    5th Jun 2014
    7:36pm
    "Always look on the bright side of life................."
    Kato
    4th Jun 2014
    6:33pm
    Yep I think you are spot on with Clive, Phony Tony appears to smug, me thinks it has been a smoke and mirrors with Clive and the Liebrils. I have voted for Independents since Don Chip was around, only problem has been they have more often than not sold out the people who voted for them.
    Kato
    4th Jun 2014
    6:38pm
    Why has it not been voiced by any Labour hack that the changes to the welfare system have and are already being implemented. so much for passing through the senate, most of what they wanted from the budget is being put in place. The stuff left over is what they are willing to negotiate on. The Labour mob are willing partners to the lies.
    Crazy Horse
    5th Jun 2014
    8:30pm
    There would be no welfare system but for the ALP. It is the party that has introduced every major social initiative. It is the Libs that keep trying to destroy our safety net..
    Kato
    6th Jun 2014
    1:24pm
    Yes the ALP did implement social welfare, but there is no need for them to start changing it, remember it was Shorten and co who penalised single Mothers.
    what is happening is a shift by both sides of politics deserting the poor and needy, to desert our young is criminal, as for people bleating on about when I was young I had to do it, if you are under seventy then there is a fair chance you have used it at some sometime, ie, family tax benefits for one. You cannot brainwash generations of young on welfare and when everything has been sold off, and the politicians are bereft of ideas blame them. There is only one system to blame for the situation Australia find's itself in today, and that is the system of politics being abused by all who sit in parliaments across Australia.
    Pamiea
    4th Jun 2014
    7:50pm
    THANKS BIG EARS AND MR SHOCKING HOCKING!!! YOU ARE MAKING LIFE TOUGHER FOR LOTS OF OLDER AUSTRALIANS - AND THE THINK IMELDA MARCOS WAS A THIEF WITH ALL HER SHOES - YOU GUYS ARE FAR WORSE. GET REAL AND LOOK AFTER THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED ALL THEIR LIVES TO BUILD THIS COUNTRY INSTEAD OF THE RICH WHO ARE SO WEALTHY THEY COULD NEVER SPEND IT IN A LIFETIME!!! I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WE GO TO THE POLES AGAIN AND YOU ARE DEFEATED 100%. I HATE THE LIBERALS AND I AM SURE A LOT OF OTHERS DO AS WELL. IF YOU GET YOUR RATES CUT - SIMPLY DEFER THEM AND SEE HOW THEY GET ON. I AM SURE OUR KIDS WILL SURVIVE WITH $20,000 LESS IN THEIR COFFERS.
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    7:53pm
    Kids< not if they can help it!
    ozimarco
    4th Jun 2014
    8:06pm
    To all those who voted for the Coalition, all I can say is "suck it up! I hope you thoroughly enjoy your Abbott government". What the Coalition are doing is exactly what I expected them to do. But then, I can think for myself and didn't believe all the lies Abbott & Co spouted for years. I don't read the Murdoch media, either.
    niemakawa
    4th Jun 2014
    8:07pm
    " A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.............."
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    9:07am
    Must have run out of Sugar ?? All we got was Castor Oil ??
    niemakawa
    5th Jun 2014
    7:37pm
    Castor oil has a cleansing effect. Take it with sugar if you prefer.
    AlbertC
    4th Jun 2014
    7:51pm
    i agree with fearless fly . and we have a governor general now sir peter cosgrove the troops would follow him anywhere. he is well respected in the forces and like most of us they don,t like corrupt governments lib or lab have a nice day
    Mitch
    4th Jun 2014
    8:41pm
    Whose fault is it, don't blame past government's, it is the fault of a government that tells everyone else to tighten their belts while they go on a spending spree and purchase great big expensive (over priced) fighter planes.

    When households are in debt, they stop spending and concentrate on paying off the debt that they have, you have to repay before you create more debt. This is the message all other governments have preached for years, in comes this Fiberal government and they remove the lid on the debt and go spending mad, and then tell us that they have inherited a big debt and that we must pay for it. When in fact they in only a few short months have create more debt than we could possibly imagine,and we have to pay for their extravagant spending spree.

    How dare that try to destroy the people who created this country for them to enjoy . The elderly pensions have worked and paid their taxes all of their lives and this is how they are repaid. Come on Australia start to have your voice heard, what next???? God alone knows, how much damage these monkeys will do to all of us if they ever get in again. I pray for the pensions of this country.
    fobbletops
    4th Jun 2014
    10:21pm
    Both Governments are Callous attacking Pensioners who barely survive from week to week now. How can they be so callous when they,the Politicians receive such large Pensions themselves with Perks and big salaries in the lead up to their Pensions.(Hundreds of Thousands they receive on the pension with no restriction on age.I have lost all respect for these self serving people ,for God Help us they are not serving us.
    Kathleen
    5th Jun 2014
    12:30am
    Maybe we should all be writing emails to

    webmaster@liberal.org.au

    Might be more useful unless unless they are already reading these comments!
    speakup
    5th Jun 2014
    4:27am
    Is the Government and all Public Servants Concessions to also be cut?????
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    9:11am
    Yes of Coarse !! NOT !!
    Rusty
    5th Jun 2014
    4:39am
    I want a country where everyone pays a fair share of tax, where business is encouraged and workers are supported. I want to live in a country where a quality education is affordable and available for every single person. I want a media that reports the truth and a Public Service that is not politicised and intimidated. I want a safety net for people who fall on hard times and for people to realise it can happen to anyone. I want decent healthcare that is as low cost as possible and free where needed. I'm happy to pay more tax until I die if that's what it takes, particularly if I have good superannuation available. I don't want one other person to suffer or go without because some people are greedy and arrogant. It's why I vote Labor even though I think they've moved away from their own key beliefs. Is that too much to ask.
    Pass the Ductape
    5th Jun 2014
    7:09am
    It's designed to kill pensioners off by stealth.

    A brilliantly contrived plan to make the poor and elderly worry a great deal about what they're going to have to sacrifice next, to stay alive!

    Judging by the talk back programs on radio lately and the numbers of elderly people breaking down into tears upon them - it appears to be working perfectly.

    Congratulations Tony and Joe - you really showed us the colour you are tainted with - YELLOW!
    Pass the Ductape
    5th Jun 2014
    7:14am
    And the only reaction from the treasurer - good old Tim Nicholls in Queensland - is to stick in the boot whilst they're down. Yeah - a real classy act Tim - particularly when you dismiss your latest huge pay rise, as of no consequence!
    Radish
    5th Jun 2014
    7:58am
    I just hope that some younger people come to this site and after reading the posts realise that you MUST prepare for your retirement during your working life.

    Granted it was not possible for a great many in the past but in 2014 there is no excuse for working people not to do so now . Superannuation is compulsory as we all know for those in the work force.

    There will always be those who will, for one reason or another, be unable to look after themselves and they should be taken care of but those who can look after themselves should do so.
    particolor
    5th Jun 2014
    9:15am
    Not much left out of New Start for Super, Radish ??

    5th Jun 2014
    8:20am
    With pensioners and older people being thrashed financially how can the Gold Coast afford the Commonwealth Games costing Billions?????? I thought Queensland was belly up. Next some idiot is talking about hosting the World Cup of soccer. Is that to at the expense of pensioners, hospitals and education. Have these pollies gone stark raving mad??? As long as they are lining their pockets they don't care. How about getting rid of all the state governments, with our meagre population we cannot afford all that dead wood. Wake up Australians.
    heyyou
    5th Jun 2014
    11:19am
    Luchar. I have not followed a political party since the 60s. I call for a change to the system, a system that allows all political parties to promise a set policy, be elected on those policies, then bring in new policy once elected. This in my opinion is fraud because you have gained a public office by deception.
    If you or I did this to a private company we would face criminal charges.
    THE SYSTEM MUST CHANGE.
    bookwyrm
    5th Jun 2014
    11:46am
    I blame the Federal Government from hell. My 82 year old frail and sick mother is on a pension with no other assets except for a modest home which she owns and lives in. I am on a disability support pension. Neither of us can afford to lose NSW concessions.
    Crazy Horse
    5th Jun 2014
    6:53pm
    Abbott, Hockey and Newman are all from the same party. They only care about their rich mates. The rest of us don't matter, we are just here to be exploited.
    Not Senile Yet!
    5th Jun 2014
    9:45pm
    None of those changes will ever pass....it is Political suicide by those who recommend slashing or taking away from the elderly/seniors.
    Remember all these Seniors have family who are the CORE tax payers and none of them will agree to this Discriminating Attack.
    Basically, if it were anyone else in Private Enterprise suggesting these cuts......they would be considered straight out Discrimination by Age! And they Really ARE!
    How dare the Government carry out such an outrageous ATTACK of DISCRIMINATION against our Seniors/Elderly in their Budget!
    None of what they suggest would pass as NOT a driect ACT OF DISCRIMINATION!
    The Current Leaders are not only a JOKE...they are FOOLS....pretending to be intelligent......whilst breaking their own Laws against Age Discrimination by their Ruthless Acts/Suggestions!
    The Grey Army will send them packing next election.....regardless of what they promise.....they do not deserve anyone's vote for such contempt towards the vary people whose taxation built their BRAND NEW PARLIAMENT HOUSE for them.
    A Firing Squad would be too good for them!
    I suggest their punishment should be 5years on the Age Pension without access to any of THEIR Super supplied by US!

    6th Jun 2014
    8:34am
    Ah Queensland......perfect one day...NO concessions the next.....

    6th Jun 2014
    8:35am
    I'm a pensioner and I'm OK.....
    niemakawa
    6th Jun 2014
    3:22pm
    And so are most of them. Thrift may help.
    Pass the Ductape
    7th Jun 2014
    5:52am
    niemakawa....Until there isn't any more thrift left - then what - simply lay down and wait to die?
    Anonymous
    7th Jun 2014
    2:20pm
    My budget allows for every contingency...a person never goes to war unless they are sure of winning.
    Kato
    6th Jun 2014
    11:49am
    wobbly Bob Hawke and the master Liar Honest John Howard were having a wee chat and bemoaning that state Govt's exist. they much prefer a centralised system, bit like a stasi system don't you know. Get rid of the federal govt. there are over three hundred bludging so called politicians and there staffers and there advisors in Canberra sucking the life blood out of every man woman and child of Australia.wake up people and vote Independent if you want a future for your grandchildren. and yes I have always voted that way.
    Kato
    6th Jun 2014
    1:15pm
    Phony Tony is overseas on a taxpayer jaunt, that is as phony as he is. this is a trip that will come back to haunt., Malcolm is shoring up the troops at home, setting up his D Day. hasta la vista tones.
    Radish
    6th Jun 2014
    4:20pm
    Particolor, I was not referring to those on New Start I was talking about younger people who are in employment.
    I also mentioned that those who needed looking after in retirement should be looked after but those who are in employment and have access to superannation should be making sure they put in as much as they can spare during their working life.
    HappySoul
    6th Jun 2014
    6:57pm
    So far the only things Clive Palmer has said he will pass are the abolition of the Carbon and Mining Taxes and guess who will benefit from that? Right, Clive Palmer!

    How much income tax does Clive Palmer personally pay? How much tax do his assorted companies pay?

    Where are the companies which own his planes registered? Not Australia that is for sure.

    He is claiming he does not need his Parliamentary salary and will donate it to charity. Are they Australian charities which benefit Australian citizens? Will be interested to hear which charities will benefit.
    What about his Parliamentary pension? Has he joined the very generous pension fund?

    So ask yourself how much $ he actually contributes to this country.
    Not Senile Yet!
    7th Jun 2014
    1:02am
    They stand to be elected...these party members ....saying they will do their best to represent you and their district!
    What they do not say when challenged....is how they can do that when they have sold your vote to some backroom Party Official that tells them exactly how to vote.....yes they do....the Party position is da de da de da......so you as a member must tow the line!
    If you don't ...no pre-selection for you next election!
    Labor, liberal, greens, Pup....they all run the same way!
    They OWN the sitting member who is in their Party!
    STOP VOTING FOR THESE PRICKS!
    STOP VOTING FOR THE PARTIES!
    vote with you head, heart & Brain.....not out of loyalty or habit!
    Vote these Party Animals out of the System altogether!
    We don't need Violent protests....our system allows us to throw them all out!
    Vote against all the Parties!
    They are just Corrupting our Country..our Politics and Sucking our future away from our kids & Grandkids!
    A Vote against the Party Machines is a vote against Corruption of the Worst Kind!
    Not Senile Yet!
    8th Jun 2014
    10:03pm
    KSS & Lucher seen to believe that only the Politicians can have/do it BOTH WAYS....
    Who the Hell do you think built the NEW PARLIAMENT HOUSE in Canberra????....It sure as hell wasn't any of their taxes...they haven't been around long enough.
    It is obvious that neither has been unemployed or sick or unable to pay their way......but it will come and when it does....well we'll see how they handle it eh!
    Everyone at some point needs a helping hand...even if you disagree....it is un Australian to not provide it!
    If you want a capitalist/money rules society then go to America.....where the Crime rate is through the roof as a direct result of their Greed is Good and Stuff You if your poor/sick/or disabled Policies Rule.
    Australia has advanced further that all of them in less than 200years with far lee population.
    We don't need their Policies of taking advantage of others to make a buck.
    We might appreciate them as an Alliance...but that does not mean we should become dominated by their idiotic Policies.
    We look after our Elderly and Infirm.....not put them on the Scrap Heap!
    We as a Country adhere to the Australian Way of Life....look after your mates.....help them when they are unfortunate....we will never become ....I'm all right bugger you types.....and hopefully you will understand that this the reason the refugees are risking their lives to join us.......
    I note that none of them are flocking to the Good Old USA....where Racism, Discrimination and Slavery dominated Government right from the beginning of their history.
    They are still trying to sort out their own backyard of woe.
    Just cos they are the biggest & wealthiest does not mean they are the Best Society.
    I have American friends who would love to emigrate to what say believe is the best country in the World...yep ...The Land of Oz....why?
    No guns.....we know how to laugh & cry.....but most of all...we know how to live and let live!
    Also they see more smiles in our Country than they see in their own!
    Ask not what you can do for your Country......Ask what you can do for your Mate, your neighbour or your community....because that is how you build a Great Country!
    sam
    9th Jun 2014
    9:06am
    I'm wondering why Campbell Newman accepted a hefty pay rise for himself and then decided the pensioners were receiving too much and decided to cut their concessions? pensioners all over this country have been given nothing by any government, nor did we expect anything, no first home owners grant , no hefty payment for having children, no subsidies of any kind , and now the government has decided to take away our concessions, probably easier than taking away$50.000 maternity leave for the wealthy who earn $100.000 yearly or more

    9th Jun 2014
    9:24am
    NSW pensioners will be ok concessions will remain... that's why NSW is the FIRST STATE
    sam
    9th Jun 2014
    11:02am
    No apparently not, the state is going to pay our concessions for 12 months while negotiating with the federal government, according to last nights news, keep me updated if you hear anything different
    Con Troversy
    9th Jun 2014
    11:42am
    NSW ...The "FIRST STATE ??? For what ?? Corruption ???
    toot2000
    9th Jun 2014
    1:43pm
    We'll have to scream bloody murder if they try cut them off after 12 months, I've got used to not paying any rego.
    Anonymous
    9th Jun 2014
    3:35pm
    Everything will be ok.....no need to be anxious about anything at all.....
    Anonymous
    10th Jun 2014
    9:59am
    The Govt is just rattling the pensioner cage to see how we react...they know it is political suicide to pick on the aged...they have other ways to save money or raise money without harming older folks...they're just rattling the cage....
    Con Troversy
    9th Jun 2014
    11:39am
    Serves all those Queensland Pensioners right if they voted for the current Government...
    sam
    9th Jun 2014
    11:45am
    N.S.W are only guaranteed their concessions for the next 12 mths, funded by the state, the federal gov. are no longer funding n.s.w. according to last nights news
    Kathleen
    10th Jun 2014
    2:04pm
    The damage has been done politically to this federal government. Next month Stafford in Qld has a by election and people are stating that no way will they be voting for LNP! Victoria has an election in November and the State will feel the wrath of the people towards Canberra mob. Two tier health system like America is not wanted here. I belong to a support group and Americans have an awful system. Major surgery is done as outpatients. No way we want to go down that path.
    sam
    10th Jun 2014
    2:18pm
    everything seems to be geared toward the young people, home grants, baby bonus, day care supplement, $50.000 maternity leave, and they seem to take us in our 60's for granted, no day care, give the parents the kids, well it's about time we all stood up and for what we worked for all our lives, it was the government that stipulated retirement age , and when after working all our lives we dare to retire , everyone is up in arms as if we have done something criminal, it isn't as if the government ever gave us anything during our working lives, because they didn't, now they want to take our small concessions off us, but still give the wealthy $50.000 paid maternity leave
    particolor
    15th Jun 2014
    5:57pm
    Give till it Hurts !!
    Not Senile Yet!
    10th Jun 2014
    10:32pm
    The Grey Army has Abbott & Costello in their sites come re-election.........just you wait and see.......massive numbers will gather in their electorates for mail drops, rallies etc to have the pair of them removed from Parliament.....No Seat.....No Say!
    Young Simmo
    6th Jul 2014
    1:09pm
    Oh well it's not all bad. Over here in WA, our Fuel card has been increased from $500 to $550. Us bushies get it to make up for all the free Train and Bus travel the city people get from 9am to 3 pm. At an average of $50 per F/night for fuel, that covers 22 weeks. Getting an increase when most things are being cut was a real bonus.
    Pamiea
    12th Jul 2014
    4:09pm
    Quite frankly I think it is disgusting - cut their high incomes, stop paying Judges and Politicians after they retire, look in their own nest and put people off who are officers awaiting placement - give them 4 months to find a job and then thanks but no thanks, tidy up the amount of extreme waste in the Government, don't undertake so many projects at one time. Anyone who votes Liberal in the future must have their heads read or have plenty of money!!
    Kato
    27th Jul 2014
    1:02pm
    Lisa Owen began by asking him how much trouble the Australian economy was in given his drastic measures in the recent Budget.

    Joe Hockey: The Australian economy is not in trouble. We’ve had 23 years of consecutive economic growth.


    Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Interview-Joe-Hockey/tabid/1348/articleID/354234/Default.aspx#ixzz38dLvSp61