Sussan Ley has stepped down pending investigation

Sussan Ley has stepped down ‘without pay’ while she explains her use of taxpayer funds.

Sussan Ley has stepped down pending investigation

The Federal Minister for Health and Aged Care, and Minister for Sport, Sussan Ley, has stepped aside 'without pay' pending an investigation into her use of taxpayer funded travel entitlements over recent years.

Ms Ley’s purchase of a $795,000 Gold Coast property from a Liberal Party donor during an ‘official’ work visit is at the centre of the controversy.

While Ms Ley alleges that the purchase of the Gold Coast apartment was an ‘impulse buy’, she eventually admitted that using public money to partly fund her personal endeavours was ‘an error of judgement’.

She has asked the Department of Finance to review all of her ministerial travel to the Gold Coast, after it was revealed that she had travelled there 17 times between 2013 and 2016 and, in doing so, cost the Australian taxpayer over $40,000.

She has offered to repay the money for four of those trips, but she stated that it should not be seen as an admission of guilt.  

Ms Ley is also under fire for claiming flight costs in order to attend the New Year’s Eve parties of wealthy businesswoman and former Liberal Party donor Sarina Russo. Ms Russo is the owner of employment agency, Job Access, which holds Government contracts for education and training services worth a total of $45.4 million.

Ms Ley stated that she does not expect to stand down permanently and is confident that she hasn’t broken any rules.

The Opposition disagrees, saying that her explanation of the purchase being “not planned nor anticipated” is an insult to Australians and not sufficient to clear her of any wrongdoing.

"I think this doesn't pass the pub test. These are Malcolm Turnbull's own words – it has to pass the pub test. And this certainly does not appear to pass the pub test," said Opposition health spokeswoman Catherine King.

Independent MP Andrew Wilkie agrees: "Sussan Ley claims house purchase on taxpayer-funded trip was unplanned. Crap. Needs to fess up and stop treating us like idiots," he tweeted.

Arthur Sinodinos, who has also been recently linked to corruption allegations, will act as Minister for Health and Aged Care, and Minister for Sport.

Read Sussan Ley’s media release

Opinion: Time to crackdown on MPs too

At a time when the Coalition is attacking welfare recipients for misuse of Government funds, even threatening jail time, should Ms Ley’s actions be dealt with in the same manner?

Sussan Ley’s misuse of taxpayer funds is, unfortunately, not an uncommon occurrence, it’s just another instance of an MP caught out using public funds for personal gain.

According to ethicist Howard Whitton, every dollar an MP spends must be in the public interest, but it is typical for MPs to arrange official ‘work’ events to coincide with personal engagements.

When Malcolm Turnbull came into power, he reinforced ministerial guidelines for the use of public funds:

"Although their public lives encroach upon their private lives, it is critical that Ministers do not use public office for private purposes ... Ministers are expected to conduct all official business on the basis that they may be expected to demonstrate publicly that their actions and decisions ... were taken with the sole objective of advancing the public interest ...

"Ministers must be scrupulous in ensuring the legitimacy and accuracy of any claim for entitlement to ministerial, parliamentary or travel allowance."

Ms Ley’s actions clearly appear to contravene these rules. Her actions are pretty much indefensible. Her claim that the purchase was ‘an impulse buy’ further pokes a finger in the eye of the average Australian she is supposed to be serving.

Should she be sacked for this offence? That’s a call for the PM. Much of the Australian public seems to think so.

Let’s not forget that, as a senior minister, Ms Ley earns almost $340,000 per year. Her stepping aside ‘without ministerial pay’ will still mean she’ll earn over $199,000 p/a. Not exactly suitable penance. As Independent MP Nick Xenophon would say “like being slapped with a wet piece of lettuce”.

Ms Ley is also being questioned for using a private jet (to the tune of $12,000) instead of a commercial airline, as well as an $11,000 trip during which she and her domestic partner stopped in to watch a couple of cricket matches.  

When Government MPs who earn a base salary of $199,000 p/a can claim $276 per night for travel allowance, while the average Newstart recipient is supposed to live on $264 per week, there is clearly something unjust about this situation.

The Government is so keen to go after welfare recipients with heavy handed, mafia-style tactics, and yet is lenient on its own people for committing the same fraudulent use of taxpayer money.

It’s true, too, that no party is exempt from this type of activity. Labor is just as guilty of the same misuse of public money. And, yes, they’re all making the right noises at the moment, but will one of the major parties join the Greens and Independents and actually commit to reforms against this type of practice?

Probably not.

The PM needs to step up and ask Sussan Ley to step down permanently. And if he’s to restore any faith in his party and Australian politics in general, he’d be smart to commence a federal investigation into the corruption being committed by the people we pay to run this country.  

Do you think Malcolm Turnbull should sack Sussan Ley? Are you tired of repeated misuse of public money? Should MPs be held to a higher standard? Is it enough that Ms Ley only repays some of her misused entitlements?

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    fordyoot
    10th Jan 2017
    10:21am
    This woman should be sacked along with others who steal money from taxpayers
    motaleon
    10th Jan 2017
    3:28pm
    This woman, and others like her, will never be sacked by their Party Boss. All PMs have indicated full trust in their wayward colleagues, no matter how outrageous the offence. The only way to deal with such matters is to put judgement and justice in hands which are not connected with Party politics
    Anonymous
    11th Jan 2017
    4:10pm
    Absolutely - sacked from Parliament, not just as a Minister, and also charged with embezzlement of Taxpayer money if proven.

    More important, all so-called MPs entitlements which do not match those generally available to other people, such as staff in companies, should be removed and they should have to justify all expenses - with punishments for failures as noted in the 1st para above.
    Heard there is a Conde review with 36 recommendations - can YLC publish those and get people's views whether these are sufficient?
    HarrysOpinion
    10th Jan 2017
    10:21am
    Remember when Susan Ley stated "I am horrified by the extent of this blatant disregard for the law", in relation to the alleged Family Day Care fraud in 2014. (SMH)
    How she and the Abbott government relentlessly attacked Family Day Care Educators and put them all in one basket.
    How tougher compliance was introduced excluding Family Day Care Educators from having access to choose Family Day Care for their own children while they work, there by reducing the work hours for Family Day Care workers as Day Care Centres were not flexible with their hours of operation.

    Reckless double standards! The goose has to go!
    Captain
    10th Jan 2017
    3:05pm
    The Turnbull govt has had the Conde Report into Parlimentary Travel Allowances for nearly 12 months and nothing has been done with it. The report has made 36 recommendations and all 36 have been agreed to by Turnbull &Co, however still nothing has been implemented. Now today Kelly O'Dwyer is saying that some of the recommendations will be implemented sometime this year.

    Ms Ley should resign and if found guilty of misusing taxpayers funds should be taken to Court and tried for fraud. The other parliamentarians who have been found to have misused taxpayers funds should also be tried, (Ms B Bishop is the first that comes to mind).

    End their so called entitlements immediately and also review the after parliament entitlements. I wonder how much would be saved each year. Some will cry that Parliamentarians cannot have their conditions of employment changed on a whim however they do that to the retired and also make the changes retrospective, so why not for them!
    Anonymous
    11th Jan 2017
    7:47am
    All politicians who wrongfully claim allowances should be sacked and stripped of all retirement benefits automatically, and tried for fraud if the offence is sufficiently serious.

    It's an insult to the Australian public that people like Bronwyn Bishop can retire filthy rich - still drawing a fat pension from the public purse - after ripping us all off with her dishonest claims.
    PlanB
    11th Jan 2017
    7:59am
    i agree sack her and anyone else that does the wrong thing and sacked WITHOUT all the benefits -- they are doing it on both sides lets also pull Tony Burke etc etc etc into it too and everyone else -- I am sick to death of these lying robbing scum!
    disillusioned
    10th Jan 2017
    10:22am
    Many of these pollies are like kids in a candy shop, grabbing at every lurk and perk they can get their hands on. Not as if they aren't getting humungous salaries as well! They lack integrity, and are not a great example to set for the rest of the community to follow. I must say that, although I don't agree with all of her policies, I do admire Pauline Hanson, who travels Economy Class, and catches buses and trains just like us "ordinary" folk!
    FrankC
    10th Jan 2017
    11:22am
    Like Bob Katter. I sat next to him on a flight from Townsville, in cattle class. I was impressed. He even brought his work with him as well.
    Sen.Cit.90
    10th Jan 2017
    12:56pm
    This is one subject that 'Mick' spouts on this site. Vote Independant; I agree. Get rid of this two party political system. I also feel Pauline Hanson has merit, until proven wrong she will get my vote.
    Jezemeg8
    10th Jan 2017
    10:24am
    YES, a resounding YES, MP's not just ministers should be accountable for their taxpayer funded salaries just as those of us on Centrelink payments are expected to do. For honest people to report a one time payment, and for that payment to then be extrapolated into a yearly income, is ridiculous, especially when the person states quite clearly at time of reporting that it was a one time only and not expected to continue.
    Quite frankly I don't believe that the Minister made such a large purchase on the "spur of the moment" and I have great difficulty believing that she had ministerial duties on the Gold Coast on NYE two years running... What's good for the goose (i.e. those on Centrelink payments) is also good for the gander (i.e. those whose salaries are paid by the taxpayer).
    HarrysOpinion
    10th Jan 2017
    10:34am
    Apparently she inspected this property 9 months ago ! The purchase can't be a 'spur of the moment '...she had 9 months to brood about it and work out her tax minimisation accounting options ! - Me thinks she has LIED !
    David
    10th Jan 2017
    10:29am
    If a parliamentarian has made a questionable claim for travel reimbursements whilst on 'official business', there's a good chance they've also double dipped by claiming travelling expenses in their income tax return for inspecting any rental properties they might own in that region. I hope the Tax Office is going to look into this.
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    10:38am
    Blatant theft such as this IS a CRIMINAL OFFENCE and should be treated as such and not just be awarded a "Mere slap on the Wrist".
    Just you've been caught out This Time - pay it back and make sure you're smarter next time so you don't get caught again !?!?!?!

    The sooner they realise that they are "one of US" rather than a ruling elite class, the better this country will be.
    Punish them with the same rules as would be applied to US the Taxpayers
    Crowcrag
    10th Jan 2017
    10:40am
    It makes no difference what is said here. The major parties will know from experience that the public forgets in time,or as they now say'We want to move forward now.' We need some group , maybe the media, to record all of the corruptions which have occurred over time, and present them at election time. Watch them squirm!
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    11:16am
    Nice one Crowcrag if only the journalists can convince their bosses to let them do just that.
    margie
    10th Jan 2017
    11:20am
    We also need some record of what it costs the taxpayer to continue paying former Prime Ministers and other, no longer serving politicians until the day they die. None of us continue to be paid once we have left our employment. It also shows just how much these creatures are overpaid if Ms Ley can pay over $800.000 on an 'impulse' buy. An impulse buy for we poor plebs is that $20.00 bottle of wine that's reduced from $40.00 and then only for a special occasion. These greedy, grasping, selfish, self opinionated liars need to do jail time, exactly as we would have to do if we committed theft.
    FrankC
    10th Jan 2017
    11:42am
    I agree 100% Margie re: the paying of former prime ministers and politicians. When I left my job, I was on $72,300 a year, but that's when it stopped,when I left. Nobody was going to pay me that amount, instead Centrelink paid me $10,000(approx.-- married couple) as it was then. What was worse is that Johnny Howard and Paul Keating bnoth had offices overlooking Darling Harbour, you can imagine the rent for that !!__which we pay for.
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    1:38pm
    As I read somewhere else today margie, an impulse buy for many is a chocolate bar from the lolly shelf at the supermarket checkout, not a unit in a holiday resort. But then that is the jealousy gene at work isn't it?
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    4:58pm
    It has nothing to do with jealousy KSS.

    I can still remember when a government back bencher earned the same as a police sergeant.
    Now they earn 2 and a half times that.

    To add corruption to it is unforgivable.

    Perhaps it would result in better governance if we did return our elected representatives to the days when a lot of what they did was voluntary through love of the Country and the People.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    6:06pm
    FrankC - I was on $100k + annually IN 1992!! I EARNED, through sheer hard work, the equivalent of what a politician was paid. When I copped a bullet from an incompetent management, who suddenly found that it cost 6-7 times more to get others to do my work - I got $7k..... not a handout for life... and I was booted out while on light duties due to injury and never received one cent.

    I had $7k in super after 13 years - Pauline Hanson spent 13 MONTHS in Parliament at the same remuneration as I was on - and got $70k.

    Jealous? No - I EARNED my way - I'm just plain angry that such obvious rorting goes one to feed fools in politics, whose primary claim to fame is the devastation of this country.
    KB
    10th Jan 2017
    11:09am
    All MPS must be held accountable when using money from taxpayers/Yes there should be an investigation. If Susan Ley used her own time and chartered her own plane then that is fine Politicians should be leading the example and be held accountabel for dollar they spen on travel and the like. They expect us to and even though many people do not owe debt
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    11:13am
    Apart from being disgusted by the all too familiar, apparent, 'rorting' by a politician I am now to consider myself a 'DOMESTIC PARTNER' :O WTF ! Can journalists and the like please get a grip on their keyboards and not float/promote these weird variations of the norm :( I have only just got over people wishing me Happy Holidays !! If it aint broke dont try and fix it !
    Travelling Man
    10th Jan 2017
    11:15am
    It seems to me that Susan Ley has been using that arch-freeloader, Joe Hockey, as her mentor. If Malcolm follows the script Susan will resign with a $200,000.00 a year pension and be offered an Ambassadorship in some exotic country. Meanwhile the attack on Pensioners and others, who have diligently saved according to the rules at that time and invested in their super, continues unabatedly. As Mick and other thinkers on these posts have stated a vote for the minor Parties and Independants such as Pauline Hanson's One Nation, Jacquie Lambie and Nick Xenophon, who speak from the heart, is worth a try to put these egotistical political parasites into gear.
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    11:21am
    Agree TM :)
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    11:39am
    I agree also TM
    john
    10th Jan 2017
    12:30pm
    This woman has now I 'd say after reading many comments destroyed her career, as a politician . The mention of Hockey and B. Bishop just reinforces the common knowledge that lots of our main stream party , politicians are of a lower calibre than most people, have a nest feathering attitude to life in general and have a "I am" owed privileged attitude to their work, they also have a total disregard for their employers, that's us, that they seem to have not a clue about looking at whats work and whats not, the rules need to be hardened up, but more importantly all these people who indulge in the political rort, need to be given some life lessons in behaviour this Ley woman is a shocking example of unbelievable stupidity, after B.Bishop and free loader Joe Hockey get mentioned all the time, AND THE lABOR FOOL AND HIS DOG IN A GOVERNMENT CAR, but this fool Ley still breaks the decency standard by not knowing what she's allowed and now Bronwyn Bishop the "disgrace" , has blamed Ley's staff, AND THIS IS WHAT WE VOTE INTO PARLIAMENT , THIS GREEDY FILTH. NO MORE!
    tj
    10th Jan 2017
    4:00pm
    Travel you got one out of three right ,but your on the money about the political parasites needing a rocket
    P$cript
    10th Jan 2017
    11:20am
    All misuse of allowances should be treated the same way the LNP treated Peter sleep, prohibited form paying it back and referred to the courts.

    The issue of the over generous superannuation the politicians claim on leaving parliament despite still working should stop now and only be paid once retired.
    Gerry
    10th Jan 2017
    11:40am
    That would be Peter Slipper, Peter Sleep was a SA & Australian leg spinner from the 1980's
    P$cript
    10th Jan 2017
    12:24pm
    Autocorrect interfered didn't notice the change till to late.
    Juris
    10th Jan 2017
    1:16pm
    Peter Sleep is appropriate - he did plenty of that in Parliament
    Batara
    10th Jan 2017
    1:52pm
    Actually Peter Slipper tried to perform the duties of Speaker with dignity and attempted to bring some decorum to the task. Compare with Bronwyn Bishop's performance giving no dignity to the role. Unfortunately Peter Sleeper was betrayed by his staff member James Ashby, and look where he is now. Be careful Pauline - be very careful. James already has a scalp - the former candidate for Bundamba. Perhaps he took out the one for Currumbin too. Who knows, but his hands obviously at work in the Bundamba case.
    Batara
    10th Jan 2017
    1:52pm
    Actually Peter Slipper tried to perform the duties of Speaker with dignity and attempted to bring some decorum to the task. Compare with Bronwyn Bishop's performance giving no dignity to the role. Unfortunately Peter Sleeper was betrayed by his staff member James Ashby, and look where he is now. Be careful Pauline - be very careful. James already has a scalp - the former candidate for Bundamba. Perhaps he took out the one for Currumbin too. Who knows, but his hands obviously at work in the Bundamba case.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    6:09pm
    Politics is all about sleeping on the job while the world passes you by, and you wake up to finding no way out ....
    jamesmn
    10th Jan 2017
    11:21am
    Susan ley is nothing short of being a fraud and a thief stealing taxpayers money she should be jailed the same as what Centrelink is trying to do to pensioners every one in parliament should have to have their travel plans approved before any trip or anything of the kind is authorised. there should also be a clamp down on private charter flights if a economy flight is not available then re schedule the mp's or parlimatiarians schedule so as to fit in with domestic economy flights including the prime minister this whole thing is nothing but a rort and the loopholes need to be shut straight away it seems that most of the ones ripping off the system are liberals turnball needs to have some balls and sack Susan ley straight away then have a full audit of all parlimatiarians and MP's and if guilty they get sacked no mater who they are.
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    11:25am
    Agree especially about 'charter flights' !! I do think in the interest of public safety they could be allocated 'Extree Room' seats on economy flights. This would reduce the chance of passengers in front of them being pierced with their Pinocchio Noses !!
    john
    10th Jan 2017
    12:44pm
    I agree, its time the long term career politician was removed from our political system , I 've said before clean them out , and then only allow 8 year terms on the back bench if they win a second , 4 yearly elections and only very good PM's get a 3rd term.

    The greatest mess in Australian politics is the 20 to 30 year career set up for people like Pyne Abbott Bronwyn the rorter, and as many Labor politicians as any one can name, but a few would come into mind if the whole thing was over hauled, How can a senator stay in office in a privileged position, for 10 20 30 years, it should not be allowed, and lower house pollies , they should not be allowed to contest more than their first win and then their 2nd win after that out!
    Why do we have Eric ABETZ STILL GOING AROUND , WHAT IN HELL GOOD IS THE LIKES OF HIM WHEN HE IS THE SAME PERSON AS WHEN HE STARTED, and nothing changes , now if you want a shot at labor the seat of Chifley has a Labor new comer, Ed Husic, good man or bad man I don't know , but to kick Labor out, the other side needs about a 19% swing to come even close, Husic a product of Union pre selection , can have that seat forever if he wants, how is that fair, he won't change , yet for 30 odd years if he wants anyone in his electorate that votes for another party will never be represented if they live there all their lives.
    That is what our political set up causes. Must keep compulsory voting, and 8 years is tops for any politician to be in the seat, long term grain fed politicians become a dangerous complacent pack of fools, unless you get one that is the exception and is a statesman and right now there are NONE!
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    1:13pm
    Draining of the Canberra SWAMP?????
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    4:20pm
    I might draw the line at the Prime Minister having to rely on commercial flights.... but not exclusively. When it fits, he/she could travel first class instead of VIP jet and I doubt anyone would complain. After all, a little privacy is needed in that position.

    This nonsense of three MPs from WA having a VIP flight instead of working out when they can fly to Canberra with an overnighter in a top hotel in Sydney is absurd.... a few hours to Sydney, into a limo, to the top hotel, hit the flesh pots, then limo to Mascot and on the Canberra.... no biggie... but not these twerps - they need a special flight... must be they are 'special needs' or something...
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    4:24pm
    Yes - limit the tenure of politicians to two four year stints - then they go - and someone gets a shot who just might fix some things that need fixing.. no more 'career' in politics, followed by lifetime salary handout while copping big dollars elsewhere as well. You take some time out of your illustrious career (who really thinks politicians do that? If it were not for the salary, perks and super they wouldn't touch it if they were genuinely successful career people) - then you go back.... if your career was so wonderful in the first place, and considering that many keep that original career going while in Parliament, you can slot right back in straight away - you're that good, so you tell us - so good that you need a lifetime handout for what you've 'forfeited'..... plenty of branch secretaries and flunkies have 'forfeited' a 'career' in nothing to enter politics and prosper mightily.
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    5:20pm
    TREBOR,

    They're special GREEDS! Not special needs.
    Stroudie
    10th Jan 2017
    11:23am
    Why wouldn't this be classed as embezzlement if proved ?
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    11:27am
    Absolutely !! After all they can't be as dumb as they appear sometimes and NOT know/been told, when welcomed/briefed into the Pig Trough, about the rules & regs regarding travel and allowances.....surely ;)
    Johno
    10th Jan 2017
    11:30am
    Whilst on subject do Aussies know how much it cost to use VIP jet on overseas junkets the pm takes cost of the jet air crew accomadation and hangers on why can't they use civil carriers?
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    6:13pm
    Don't forget the standing costs of those aircraft and crews. You pay through the nose to hangar and maintain them, and when you have dedicated military ranking crew on standby 24/7 ..... that costs....

    Jesus - wish I'd had some close air support on immediate standby at times...
    Mad as Hell
    10th Jan 2017
    11:31am
    What's the government doing about the $26.6 billion we will be losing per annum from mismanagement of LNG royalties?
    Nothing, they're out buying properties and stealing Pensioner Assets.

    10th Jan 2017
    11:32am
    "WITHOUT PAY"??!! How will she EVER make ends meet?
    She should be stood down without a JOB and NO AFTER benefits WHATSOEVER for cheating the taxpayers!!
    btony
    10th Jan 2017
    11:33am
    Just another lying ,scheming crook in office.If she did nothing wrong , as she claims, then why is she paying money back?She broke the 11th commandment, "don't get caught".
    And, Old Bronnie defending her, what a joke, honour among thieves.
    Goodbye and good riddance Sussan Lye and her ilk on both sides
    floss
    10th Jan 2017
    11:36am
    My god these Libs are corrupt take it off the pensioners and then blow it on free travel.The big question is do they still claim their 270 tax free dollars living away from home allowance. What a arrogant person Susan Leys is.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    9:15pm
    Absolutely! That's an Entitlement ™ - your pension is only an Entitlement until they say it is not.

    Talk about the insolence of office...
    Colb234
    10th Jan 2017
    11:39am
    Accepting they all have their snouts in the trough, the reason she should be sacked is if she can spend close to a million of her own "hard earned" cash on a whim, would anybody trust her with other people's money.
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    5:08pm
    In my opinion she managed to make a proper mess of the health insurance by allowing 8% increases every year to profit the health insurance bosses.

    That should be looked into as well. Why was she so generous when the CPI was under 2% one year and under 1% the next?
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    9:18pm
    Rae - we all know by now that being elected to government is only a rubber stamp for looking after your mates, cronies, and families...

    The likes of Slim Mehajer are just the most blatant example of this.... politics is business so you can access unlimited funds of public money from the Commonwealth/State/Council to pursue your own self-enrichment and that of your cronies....

    We've been lied to since Federation over that simple issue..
    Janus
    10th Jan 2017
    11:41am
    I have to agree with most of the previous comments.

    I do find it interesting that she claims she was simply following the rules, when they made the rules. Following the rules is not OK if the rules are clearly not ethical.

    I also think it amazing that she thought that it was OK that if she paid the money back and apologized, then all would be forgiven. If I stole some money from the tax man, but then apologized and paid it back, would they forgive me? NO! Nor should they! She must be Catholic - repent, confess, and all is forgiven.

    As for the Boss, Turnbull, how weak is it? Absolutely pathetic. Scared of his own Party.

    How many of you out there voted for this pack?? Happy, are you? Getting the governmen you deserve??
    Tru
    10th Jan 2017
    12:26pm
    Janus, I totally agree about the ethical vacuum in this and similar stories. They always bleat about the expense claims being "within the rules" while completely ignoring the ethical aspect.

    I would also like to know what the special needs are of the Gold Coast that "required" no less than 22 visit by M's Ley in only a few years. How many times did she need to make an announcement in Albany, Halls Creek or envelope in her own state, Port Macquarie?

    And I most certainly did NOT vote for these appalling apologies for politicians. Never.
    floss
    10th Jan 2017
    11:44am
    Come on Old Geezer defend the Libs if you can.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    6:21pm
    up to his name again/
    Old Geezer
    10th Jan 2017
    7:24pm
    No comment
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    9:22pm
    Any defence there of this rort, boys - or are you just playing the man?

    As an old Rugby stalwart with one International (not a Test), I always advised my son, past Captain of the USQ Rugby side and a potential Wallaby, to play the game, and that playing the man was not part of The Game.

    You reveal your true colours with this kind of comment, boys....
    Suzanne Sky
    10th Jan 2017
    11:46am
    I entirely agree with your writer, especially "The Government is so keen to go after welfare recipients with heavy handed, mafia-style tactics, and yet is lenient on its own people". It's even worse when you consider that it seems many people were not even guilty of wrongdoing, and that many are reportedly terrified and even suicidal.
    George
    10th Jan 2017
    11:48am
    I want to know why she is not being prosecuted. I know that if I claimed such expenses while the private sector, I would have laid myself open to fraud charges. This attitude of entitlement has to go. And while they are at it should not the whole MP salary package be reviewed, especially the fantastic super package they get for life? Why aren't pollies on an accumulation scheme like the rest of us who are paying for their unfunded liabilities for the rest of their lives (Indexed to boot!)
    "Tired of It All"
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    1:41pm
    Until investigations are complete and proof of wrong doing found and evidenced, there is nothing to charge her with and so no prosecution is possible.
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    5:14pm
    Gee wouldn't it be nice if that same policy applied to everyone.

    Especially the hundreds of Australians falsely accused of fraud from Centrelink. Some proper investigating and proof would have stopped all this angst.

    The people are now rightly pissed off with all of the government guilty or not.

    I do hope the investigation is promptly treated. People will rightly be annoyed until it is sorted out.
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    7:54pm
    The people under investigation by Centrelink have also not been charged with anything - yet! They have the opportunity to provide more evidence to Centrelink as requested. Failure to do that will result in further action.

    Further action may well be taken against Ms Ley AFTER the investigations are complete.
    andromeda143
    10th Jan 2017
    11:57am
    Good bye Ms Ley. It couldn't happen to a nicer person. I will be happy when ALL politicians have ALL of their perks taken away. They are all as cynical and fraudulent as insurance companies and car sales companies. They are already in a privileged position with their enormous salaries. They do not deserve the free travel, comcars, entertaining expenses, exorbitant superannuation, retirement benefits etc. They are ALL of dubious trustworthiness and moreover they are quite happy to cut our benefits, cut old people out from their pensions, chase debts of ordinary people rather than their big business mates. This sickness is right across ALL PARTIES.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    9:23pm
    but... but... but.... politics is a business.... isn't it?
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    11:58am
    MUST tell you about the lovely weekend my 'Domestic Partner', Missus, Wife, Significant Other and I just had :) We found we had a few dollars leftover last week so wasted it on some high priced petrol (Brissie has the highest Metro fuel prices at the moment) and went for a nice drive down to the Gold (!) Coast. Whilst there, dodging bullets, sunburn, leftover 'schoolies', yuppies, hipsters, druggies etc guess what ?? We saw this simply gorgeous little unit for sale for a Mere Million bucks so of course, on a whim, we snapped it up, as you do !! ..... Go on, you believe that dont you ?? Bwahahahaaaa !!
    Mamacrystal
    10th Jan 2017
    12:48pm
    ooooooh! I might just try that next pension day! :D
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    1:28pm
    ....and don't forget Mama, when your neighbour asks you what you did on the weekend, you MUST say, with a straight face, 'Oh, we bought a million dollar unit on The Spur Of The Moment' ............ are these pollies arrogant grubs !!
    Wendy HK
    10th Jan 2017
    4:20pm
    I was just being driven to my meeting and I said "stop the car",I grabbed my change purse, jumped out and bought a $800,000 apartment.
    I was driving to MY meeting and I stopped the car, grabbed my change purse and bought a loaf of bread.
    Which one is a spur of the moment decision - you don't have to be too bright do you??
    HDRider
    10th Jan 2017
    12:05pm
    Nick Xenophon attempted to introduce a bill two years ago to make MP's responsible and to also cut this behaviour out completely and have harsh penalties. Both Labor and Liberal dismissed his bill out of hand, in his words, they 'coluded' on this totally.
    The offence, and it IS an offence anywhere else would be Stealing as a servant and WE, the people should demand that this, and other MP's are prosecuted by law and dismissed from service and also lose ALL 'Entitlements' due to them. They should NEVER be allowed to 'step aside' resign or anything else in order to keep monies belonging to the Tax Payers, MANY of whom are Age Pensioners!
    Stand up Australian people and remember, BOTH major parties have indeed colluded on NOT stamping out this sort of behaviour withing their lying cheating thieving ranks.
    Kaz
    10th Jan 2017
    12:46pm
    Ok I agree. How do we do it? People say use your vote - that is not good enough. How do we demand that additional perks on top of their salaries are removed?
    john
    10th Jan 2017
    12:50pm
    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    tj
    10th Jan 2017
    4:08pm
    Hd Nick is a wily operator he knew very well that wouldn't get through ,just another stunt from someone who knows how to work a room Good thing he can't fool everybody
    Wendy HK
    10th Jan 2017
    4:26pm
    WE, THE PEOPLE - have to stand up to them and let them know it is NOT ALRIGHT to thumb their noses at us and expect us to vote for them at the next election.
    I can't wait for the next election!
    I thought they finally might actually pay attention to the little guys after the US election when NO ONE believed that DONALD TRUMP had a ghost of a chance.
    Haw haw, the voters won't go that far! - Don't you believe it buddy! OUR TIME IS COMING!!!
    john
    10th Jan 2017
    12:16pm
    Susan Ley , is a very dumb lady. This is a person who has no idea of the wrong she has done. That is the whole problem with a great many politicians, they see this as just part of the perks.
    It is not, but playing games with the "rules" then saying I'll pay this back and that back then commenting that it is not an admission of guilt is amazing in its audacity.
    If she has one ounce of decency she should retire today, if Turnbull has any idea of his obligation then if she doesn't resign he should sack her. But watch , he'll make an excuse, but of course has he not sent a little bit of "this and that" of his, Off Shore?
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    5:18pm
    It could get tricky for Mal. I bet she knows where a whole pile of the bodies are buried.
    MICK
    10th Jan 2017
    12:27pm
    If you think that any 'investigation' this government sets up to look at its own will be worth the time of day then believe in the Tooth Fairy again.
    Serial rorter Bronwyn Bishop got a clean bill of health from her Liberal Party cronies so why does anybody expect this one to be any different.
    The one thing that is clear is that Labor can do no right and Liberal can do no wrong. This will be no different.
    john
    10th Jan 2017
    12:54pm
    CROSS BENCHERS VOTERS tis the answer.......CROSS BENCHERS!
    In numbers to control these two major party disasters, our Nations political elites have dropped the ball, and have become of such a lower standard that it is a dreadful indictment on we who vote for them. I am not voting for a main stream party again, ever!
    MICK
    10th Jan 2017
    2:20pm
    I have been saying that for several years on this website john but the Liberal Party trolls working the site just come on with the 'leftie' BS to hide their tracks and massage the simple minded.
    Have no doubt that we are engaged in class warfare and until the wealthy are removed from the levers of power nothing will change other than the normal shell game to deceive the troops, something the rich do very well.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    10:54pm
    MICK, surely you're not saying that Labor members have never rorted the system? What do you mean by "The one thing that is clear is that Labor can do no right and Liberal can do no wrong." Politicians, regardless of the side they represent have had to pay back wrongful claims over the years.
    Kaz
    10th Jan 2017
    12:34pm
    When I worked in the public service (pollies are public servants we must remember) we were not allowed to tack any personal trip, activity, etc on to a work trip. Easy rule to follow and one that could be brought in for pollies. Why isn't it already, when I was a public servant just like them?
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    5:24pm
    When I worked in the public service we had to supply our own tea, coffee, milk and washing up detergent. There was a roster to take home the tea towels, which we also bought, for washing.

    And yes no personal business could ever be done on taxpayer funded business.

    Hockey was quite right. The Age of Entitlement is definitely over.

    The LNP is about to learn the danger of wishing without thought of consequences because you really do get what you wish for.
    Strummer
    10th Jan 2017
    12:42pm
    Do you all really expect something to be done about this? What pig is likely to vote to not have its snout in the trough?
    Wendy HK
    10th Jan 2017
    4:28pm
    When we all rise up and threaten them with losing their cushy seat - they will!
    johnp
    10th Jan 2017
    12:43pm
    Some very good comments posted already, although I think we shouldn't get too carried away with whether it's a Liberal or a Labor politician that we're talking about - there's no difference between any of them when it comes to greed and opportunism.

    I think we are all getting sick and tired of reading about corruption amongst our so-called 'leaders'. Several years ago my wife and I were visiting a small island in the Indonesian archipelago, and we commented to a local how beautiful the place was. His reply was "yes, it's a beautiful country, but with a terrible government". That comment has resonated with me many times since as I see our own governments descend to the same levels as the governments of what we choose to patronisingly refer to as 'third-world' countries.

    It's little wonder that we are seeing a backlash against mainstream politics in countries such as UK and America. People are wanting peaceful change, and this is their way of going about achieving it. The major political parties in Australia need to be very careful just how far they push the electorate. We are pretty easy-going people, but we are not the complete idiots they take us for. My advice to Malcolm Tirnbull is to show a "zero tolerance" for any misuse of taxpayer-funded money, sack the woman without any delay, and launch a thorough, and independent, investigation into corruption throughout Parliament. Let politicians begin to realise that they cannot, and will not, get away with the flagrant touting of laws that would have the rest of us locked away if we tried to do the same to our employers in the real world.
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    5:36pm
    We have trusted them from the days when they were reasonably trustworthy. Those days are long passed. There now needs to be an independent tribunal or Federal ACCC to oversee the behaviours.

    Ley has cost money and stuffed up Private health but just think of the consequences still to come from the signing of all those agreements by a fly in/fly out pollie representing who knows.
    Metranman
    10th Jan 2017
    12:51pm
    I am outraged that once again another Minister of the Crown (Sussan Ley) has stooped so low and has shown such an arrogance to "rip off" the Australian Taxpayers with her total misuse of Travel entitlements. She should be sacked from the front bench and NEVER reinstated.
    I have felt so strongly about this matter, I have sent a complaint and an expression of my disgust to my local Federal Member and asked him to pass it onto the Prime Minister.
    It was bad enough for her to use Public money for personal use, but what value to the Taxpayers did her partner contribute by being with her and ripping the Public off further.
    gumtree
    10th Jan 2017
    12:54pm
    Sussan Ley, Joe Hockey and of course the 'envoy' Philip Ruddock. All thieves not subject to the same standards as the rest of us. Sussan Ley stepping aside on $199,000 pa-what a joke! Of course she should be sacked then drawn & quartered!
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    1:17pm
    Gumtree,

    You mean: "Just to set an example for the others"????

    What an excellent idea!
    I guess, that about the only retribution that MIGHT have a chance to work as it always is very difficult to convert "Compulsive Thieves".

    Then again, your method as suggested at least will have ONE convert! So this would become a WIN Situation!
    NotAgain
    10th Jan 2017
    1:23pm
    As the song goes...What's new Pussycat, oh, oh, oh, oh. oh.

    This woman should be sacked immediately.

    Malcolm Turnbull it's time that you did the right thing by
    the people of Australia who voted you into power.

    All Politicians should be audited on a regular basis
    to keep them in line.

    Politicians don't care about anyone but themselves.

    Stop hounding the less fortunate and look into what's really
    happening within your own party and make them accountable
    for the money they spend so readily.

    There's one thing for sure I won't be voting for you or anyone else
    anymore.

    Just disgusted with you all.
    Disco Diver
    10th Jan 2017
    1:27pm
    Another pig with their snout in the trough
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    1:33pm
    Disco,

    Pig is about the correct name for them.
    However, they do not seem to meet the same FATE as all Good Piggies do.
    Then again, there would not be anything good left to eat as "Just about all of them" "ALL ASS*OLE" and nothing else!!!!
    Teddy
    10th Jan 2017
    1:28pm
    Whenever these instances come to light, and they happen on both sides of the House, they are invariably described by the relevant Party leader as an 'oversight' or the result of 'distraction'.

    I am trying to recall any example of a 'distracted' Minister who 'overlooked' the fact that the bill was for genuine Ministerial Business and paid the bill himself/herself.

    These oversights and distractions always seem to take the form of that old favourite at the supermarket where the error is nearly always in favour of the business not the customer.
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    1:35pm
    I think people are jumping the gun more than a little here.

    First Ms Ley cannot be removed from parliament by Mr Turnbull. She is an elected Member of Parliament. Any removal of her has to happen by her electorate at the next election. The only other way is for her to be successfully prosecuted through the courts and then imprisoned for her 'crime'. This would render her ineligible as an MP and thus remove her from office. Until either of these events happen, she is under no obligation to go anywhere. Mr Turnbull has removed her from her Ministerial Office i.e. the position he bestowed on her, until such time as the two current investigations are complete. It remains to be seen whether this action is temporary or permanent. She has lost her ministerial portfolio for now, and with it about 35% of her salary but not her Member of Parliament status . She must now try and get by on ONLY $199,000 instead of the $340,000 as a Minister. How will she pay the mortgage on the new unit?

    I also think we need to be very careful in turning what are currently allegations into facts. On the face of it, there would seem to be just cause to question the need to travel from Brisbane to the Gold Coast and back and then stay the night in Brisbane for a trip that seemingly was completed in a couple of hours i.e. the $1b health funding announcement, and whether that need was for business or private purposes. It would seem appropriate that the Department of Finance also be investigated if it is shown that the travel expenses were in fact not justified as a business expense. Someone, somewhere approved the alleged expenses claims! But until the investigations are complete, no-one should be acting as judge and jury.

    I will say one thing though. Oh how I would like to be in a position to be able to jump in a taxi, travel to a holiday destination and then drop $795,000 on an apartment on an impulse!
    Sundays
    10th Jan 2017
    2:24pm
    I agree Kiss. Spending $795k on impulse (as if) is one thing. However, why did she also need to manufacture so many trips to the Gold Coast, so that her employer (us!) would also pay for travel expenses. I saw her being interviewed and she came across as very arrogant. The intent of her 20 plus trips to the Gold Coast is very questionable. There are no special reasons to single this one area out for meetings, conferences etc regarding the Health portfolio.
    MICK
    10th Jan 2017
    2:24pm
    Turnbull may not be able to 'unelect' her but he can make her a pleb. without power or influence. Caste your mind back to Bronny...who was hounded out, as she should have been. But only after some in the media kept up the attack with an election coming.
    I would be happy if a TRULY independent person would do the investigation but it will be the same deal as the Royal Commission into Labor where the crooked Liberal Party rolled out one of their own henchmen.
    You seem to mostly be very supportive of this government. I often wonder why.........when the facts and the form are there for all to see.
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    2:38pm
    Unfortunately Sundays, arrogance is not a punishable trait whether in Mps or anyone else. Otherwise there would be a few on this forum who would need to keep looking over their shoulder wouldn't there Mick?
    MICK
    10th Jan 2017
    2:56pm
    Never mistake arrogance for anger KSS. I hate seeing people fleeced, done over and robbed.
    You promote the continuation of this sort of corrupt conduct. I fight against it.
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    3:56pm
    I promote procedural fairness Mick not allegedly 'corrupt conduct'.
    Sundays
    10th Jan 2017
    7:02pm
    KSS, Arrogance. I really meant self serving and couldn't seem to comprehend why people were so upset with her behaviour. Not punishable in itself, but definitely out of touch
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    9:38pm
    Procedural fairness? Let's give her the same 'procedural fairness' as a peasant charged with a traffic offence...

    For those who miss the point - that is one of the clearest examples of one rule for some - another rule for the rest....

    Your education is advancing, Grasshoppers..... but I suppose that's arrogance on my part.....
    Aussie
    10th Jan 2017
    1:36pm
    Come on do not be stupid she is a poletitian and have a different law ... nothing will happen is all a curtain for the moment she will go back and continue travelling

    Get real, ...in our country we pensioners are a different class of people not even a second class citizens ..... get that inside your head we are not good for anything .... that is the way they think about us so just live with all this rotting
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    1:41pm
    Aussie,

    No wonder the pensioners are the LEANERS as they seem to be continuously helping the "Piggies in Power" with the LIFTING!
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    4:29pm
    LEANING from broken backs carrying these twerps for life...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzsdtaySY4
    MB100D
    11th Jan 2017
    4:22pm
    130065506
    Jacky
    10th Jan 2017
    1:36pm
    They do as they please, spend money like there is no tomorrow. They don't seem to care and unless are found out, they get away with fraud. They need to be sacked as anybody else in the workforce would be and they should stand trial. Something has to happen to stop this happening and so far nothing has been done. I am sick of this wort, when will somebody who is not employed by the Government bring politicians into line.
    Aussie
    10th Jan 2017
    1:38pm
    Yeahhhh just a little curtain investigation ...
    john
    10th Jan 2017
    1:48pm
    Rather than wasting time on trifles like this how about starting to govern as you
    were elected to
    Aussie
    10th Jan 2017
    2:49pm
    Come on Mate our politicians do dot govern they have a good time arguing in parliament and disagreeing in every bill they present ...... they only take take take most of them give some but our government is a disaster and a complete roth
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    5:43pm
    They will soon have too. The taxpayer assets are just about all sold and the contracts signed. I'll bet most of the States will be broke within 5 years and little revenue flowing in to pay for all this free travel and accommodation thing.
    Eddy
    10th Jan 2017
    1:48pm
    I am prepared to give Ms Ley to benefit of the doubt UNTIL this, and all MP's travel and other allowances, are properly investigated (and not by the Privileges Committee but a real investigation and audit). Prima Facie she has committed a fraud on the Commonwealth BUT rules regarding MP and Senators allowances are written so loosely that an MP making a bank withdrawal at gunpoint could be considered 'within the rules', so don't expect too much.
    Would be better if all MP allowances and travel expenses were managed by an outside agency to ensure all claims were reasonable. When I was a public servant my travel justification and expenses were rigorously scrutinised and, apart from minor expenses like parking fees, had to be supported by receipts.
    The suggestion that 'somebody" keep a record of these infractions to be published prior the next election has some merit. As news media are too political to be believed and are not reliable sources, I nominate "My Life Choices".
    Eddy
    10th Jan 2017
    1:50pm
    Sorry, that should be 'Your Life Choices'.
    heyyybob
    10th Jan 2017
    2:04pm
    Good idea Eddy !! Maybe a chance for the Your Life Choices mob to REALLY resonate with Grey Power. Could easily stir us up at The Right Time and cause the Canberra Greedy Grub Club to sit up and take notice for a change !! ..............What do you say 'YOUR LIFE CHOICES' ?? You up to it ?? :)
    Batara
    10th Jan 2017
    1:58pm
    Have to be worried about the Libs. No sense of the pub test. Arthur Sinodinis to take on Susan's portfolios. Back from the sin bin is he? Has he answered the ICAC issues on Liberal dodgy donations yet?
    MICK
    10th Jan 2017
    2:26pm
    Maybe put Brandis in. That's one bad egg replacing another methinks.
    Jim
    10th Jan 2017
    2:25pm
    Most contributors are calling for this thief to be sacked from her portfolio, in the real world these thieves would face prosecution and that is exactly what should happen and if found guilty should spend some time in jail, lose all of their entitlements to a pension with the exception of any contributions they have made, they should also be fined double the ammount that they have defrauded the taxpayers. Of course it won't happen because if it did it would cost the taxpayer a fortune to build enough jails to house these rat bags that we call polititions, that come from all sides of politics including independents.we need an independent body to oversee governments, the problem being that it would be ex politians that would be sitting on such a body. The test of honesty might be if we can get enough politicians to stand up and admit there is a huge problem and actually do something about it, or am I dreaming?
    MICK
    10th Jan 2017
    2:27pm
    I am noticing that the identifiable government trolls are absent from this debate. It seems like every time there is a crisis they just vanish and then come out in force a day later. By that account they should be here soon.
    Jim
    10th Jan 2017
    4:46pm
    Nice to see the opposition trolls are active. Both sides of politics are involved in this criminal behaviour it needs to stop, but how is that going to happen, there must be some honest politicians out there, if as you constantly suggest we need more independents maybe that's the solution, but how would we keep them honest, I fear that the parliamentary system would corrupt them pretty quickly.
    Anonymous
    11th Jan 2017
    8:01am
    OG is so quick to attack and stamp ''guilty''' and ''greedy'' on ordinary Australians he knows nothing about, but he's oddly silent about his precious mates. Bonny also.
    Lescol
    10th Jan 2017
    2:31pm
    I have seen many countries with an anti-corruption commission that is beyond reproach; why not Oz? Matters are be referred to the commission for investigation and if proven prosecution follows according to the law. Simple.

    cheers
    bumper
    10th Jan 2017
    2:44pm
    These politicians should be treated as any other public servant, and when they are caught out misusing the public purse they should be charged by the police as stealing as a servant. Any other public servant knows that this is the penalty for abusing the system, Meanwhile this Government hounds ordinary people and retiree's. There should be a separate department to scrutinise these people. What happened to the 36 recommendations that was given to the present government to stamp out this practice??? Also, lets stop negative gearing, no that will never happen because i would imagine that too many of these people have plenty of these properties in their portfolio. I don't hear much from Labour also on this point!!
    cdbstock
    10th Jan 2017
    2:52pm
    Nose in the trough again! While the ‘rules’ need tightening for serving parliamentarians - they also need changing for ex-parliamentarians. I propose: increase pay & allowances to parliamentarians (say by 100%) to attract sound people & to compensate existing parliamentarians for their losses of privileges - & pay nothing to ex-parliamentarians (eg: no gold passes, no offices, no drivers, etc); pay superannuation according to the same rules as the rest of us (eg contributory, age of access
    Jackie
    10th Jan 2017
    3:00pm
    Ley is a liar. She actually applied for finance months before this trip. Hubby owns a business near the new purchase, and it will no doubt be negatively geared, reaping a further benefit from lower paid taxpayers gifted to people of means, of a tax reduction on their 'investment". 20 trips in 3 years to Gold Coast (pop. 550,000 ) by a southern NSW MP very sus. New Years Eve parties 2 years in a row? Turnbull hosts New Years Eve parties too, and several MPs charge taxpayers for travel to attend! Turnbull should remind them of the high stabdards hecexpects as he checks his Cayman Island emails. He ignores all 36 recommendations of the review of entitlements called in 2015 EXCEPT the one calling for more staff! He's acted on that one only!
    Cuddlycas
    10th Jan 2017
    3:25pm
    As with all politicians who have been caught doing the wrong thing; Ms ley has demonstrated total arrogance and distain. Hard working Australians are fed up with being treated like idiots. Laws are in place for a reason - sack her and others who think they are entitled to flaunt the law. We are being told that the age of entitlement is over - shouldn't that apply to everyone!
    Bes
    10th Jan 2017
    3:25pm
    Choppergate....Bishop east west flight....Sussan Ley.....YES we know of the few but what of the many and those of ALL Party's?
    WE KNOW... THAT THEY KNOW... WHAT THEY ARE DOING...WHILE THEY... TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT THEY ARE PRIVILEGED AND/OR THEY CAN TAKE A CALCULATED RISK OF GETTING AWAY WITH DECEPTION WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
    The very same people attack Australian pensioners while bringing in 30,000 refugee welfare recipients telling us that OUR welfare system is overloaded.
    These very same politicians upon losing office or choosing to (retire) from politics have different rules....of their own making.
    The retirement age is for ALL. The entitlement of a pension application should be means tested..for ALL.
    Will more people choose to register a 'protest' vote like the last election as the government ministers continue to UNDERLINE the reasons why we should??
    Pr
    10th Jan 2017
    3:57pm
    YES she should be sacked. It's a disgrace, its Fraud and just plain WRONG.
    Its our money, they seem to forget.
    I have already written to my local member Lucy Wicks and the PM, so should everyone else to make them realise we are fed up.
    If nothing changes I wont vote for them again.
    FED UP

    10th Jan 2017
    4:06pm
    It costs the taxpayer $40 million annually to support ex-politicians with a case now before the court to increase the entitlements of many.
    As a self-funded retiree, I’m frustrated with Canberra’s continuous fiddle with Superannuation contributions and rule changes.
    Plus the measure to Re-balance the Pension Assets Test to be implemented on 1 January 2017.
    So here's fair warning to all politicians of any persuasion, this group of aged voters may be about to make the greatest impact on any Federal election in history,
    ignoring them may be the start of a changed political environment in this country.
    Change the Entitlements
    I absolutely agree, if our pension isn't an entitlement, neither is theirs.
    They keep telling us that paying us an aged pension isn't sustainable.
    Paying politicians all the perks they get is even less sustainable!
    The politicians themselves, in Canberra, brought it up, that the Age of Entitlements is over:
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    This is one idea that really should be passed around because the rot has to stop somewhere.
    Proposals to make politicians shoulder their share of the weight now that the Age of Entitlement is over:
    1. Scrap political pensions. Politicians can purchase their own retirement plan, just as most other working Australians are expected to do.
    2. Retired politicians (past, present & future) participate in Centrelink. A Politician collects a substantial salary while in office but should receive no salary when they're out of office.
    Terminated politicians under 70 can go get a job or apply for Centrelink unemployment benefits like ordinary Australians. Terminated politicians over 70 can negotiate with Centrelink like the rest of the Australian people.
    3. Funds already allocated to the Politicians' retirement fund be returned immediately to Consolidated Revenue. This money is to be used to pay down debt they created which they expect us and our grandchildren to repay for them.
    4. Politicians will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Politicians pay will rise by the lower of, either the CPI or 3%.
    5. Politicians lose their privileged health care system and participate in the same health care system as ordinary Australian people. i.e. Politicians either pay for private cover from their own funds or accept ordinary Medicare.
    6. Politicians must equally abide by all laws they impose on the Australian people.
    7. All contracts with past and present Politicians men/women are void effective 31/12/16. The Australian people did not agree to provide perks to Politicians, that burden was thrust upon them.
    Politicians devised all these contracts to benefit themselves.
    Serving in Parliament is an honour not a career.
    The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so our politicians should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people, then it will only take 3 or so days for most Australians to receive the message.
    Don't you think it's time?
    Please do this if you can. Australia needs our help.
    THIS IS HOW YOU FIX Parliament and help bring fairness back into this country
    Wendy HK
    10th Jan 2017
    4:31pm
    Absolutely!!!!
    Mad as Hell
    10th Jan 2017
    5:04pm
    Sounds fair trood.
    BnT
    10th Jan 2017
    6:07pm
    We have all been saying similar to Trood for months now - how do we take it a step further? Trood's summing up seems to make a lot of sense....we need to get that statement and steps in front of a broader media group and get a movement underway to get revision of these discriminatory rules. I received a survey recently that asked, "What career would you take up if you had your time over again?" Without hesitation, I said "politician"....because I wouldn't have to pay for or worry about my own retirement! So rather than going backwards and forwards with the continuing and ever expanding saga, how do we move this on and get some real action? It would be nice to look back at 2017 as the year the imbalance for politicians versus the rest of us was corrected!

    10th Jan 2017
    4:11pm
    To be fair - what is needed is not just a review by fellow politicians, or by a body of appointed monkeys - what is needed is a genuinely independent tribunal to look into these things, so as to make a valid determination.

    I mean - travel to Brisbane and then coincidentally stay overnight and then travel by comcar to the GC and suddnely buy a flat - after a chat with a single patient in Brissie? Thin as an Ethiopian's wallet....

    what is also needed, as a matter of urgency, is a change in the rules over this kind of thing - and perhaps a proportionate repayment. If your visit is 10% government business, and the rest is personal, party of whatever - you get repaid 10% of your fares and accommodation.

    Where there is blatant rorting, a prosecution should follow.

    Politicians are NOT royalty and should never imagine they should be treated as such.
    Gabby
    10th Jan 2017
    4:19pm
    Off with her head!!
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    4:32pm
    Sack 'em all....
    mogo51
    10th Jan 2017
    4:31pm
    Yes she should be sacked and quickly. Moreover, these 'noses in trough' Politicians should be served a large dose of reality. Whilst they try to preach to the public how bad the bduget and economy is, they are rampant in their gouging of public funds.
    They should have the same pension entitlements as all other workers. Travel should be reined in and substantiated. Wages should be set by a public tribunal, not politicians themselves.
    joy44
    10th Jan 2017
    4:43pm
    Can I suggest to every body to do the following as I have just done , copied and paste this web page to your local MP and suggest they read this .
    Easy put this web page in browser .... click on copy, get e-mail already to go ...then paste ... my heading said and I quote " suggest you read this .
    The double standards on both side of politics has to stop.... I've just had my pension, revised that's fine, and lost some so I have done my bit to pay the nations debt ...BUT it not all right when politicians on both side of the house ...spend our monies as if it their god given right..
    HarrysOpinion
    10th Jan 2017
    9:13pm
    Problem with that idea is that it is my local MP who has been stood down !
    Rae
    10th Jan 2017
    4:46pm
    The government should have realised people would be watching very hard when they began whining and whinging about the budget. It serves them right. Now all we need to do is give Arthur enough rope and watch him hang himself. This LNP IPA current mob must be the most corrupt we have ever had.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    5:45pm
    Stupid comments like 'lifters and leaners' may go over well with a North Sydney business twerp group - it has, as Fat Joe found, no meaning to the voting public - so he bailed out before the missile hit him up the ass.... in his case he's more of a 'lifer' and should rightly be so in the sense of prison sentence - since he jumped out to golden parachute into a position he is no way qualified to hold.... imagine Fat Joe crowing about 'lifters' and leaners' and 'global economic realities' to a Trump who is wanting to seal the borders and tax corporations that offshore!! Bet his tune has changed to suit the prevailing wind.... asshole...

    Add in freezing unemployment benefits at a time of sky-rocketing costs of living, attacks on Pensions, raising the debt ceiling and then raising the debt, offering $50bn to offshore corporations to continue to operate here at no tax.... and then continuing to carry on like Entitled Royalty with the money of the same people you are robbing daily...

    Well.. what can I say? Bring back the guillotine....

    But that's just me posturing again.... (dear god - what a paucity of inquisitorial minds we have in this country)....
    Dolly
    10th Jan 2017
    4:58pm
    What they should do, as they are well paid, is pay for things like flights etc out of their own pocket & then claim it back. I had to do this when I was working & had to explain what the purchase was for etc. & work out GST, it was quite a time consuming exercise. I did not mind as I accumulated points on my credit card for rewards.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    5:53pm
    Nah - having control of the purse strings - these people have organised things so that they live luxuriously on their perks, pay minimal tax on salary due to 'investing' in such things as the NG scheme they built and support - and essentially have the majority of that fat salary after tax minimisation to gain assets for a rich retirement on a rich 'pension', as 'discretionary income'.

    Politicians should be forbidden on pain of death to involve themselves in 'business ventures' they build and support while in office...

    Truly beeziness eez good in El Grando Republica Da San Salvador.... eef you have dee strings off gover'mont and beeziness in yo' han's all a' once!
    Dolly
    10th Jan 2017
    4:58pm
    What they should do, as they are well paid, is pay for things like flights etc out of their own pocket & then claim it back. I had to do this when I was working & had to explain what the purchase was for etc. & work out GST, it was quite a time consuming exercise. I did not mind as I accumulated points on my credit card for rewards.
    Dolly
    10th Jan 2017
    4:58pm
    What they should do, as they are well paid, is pay for things like flights etc out of their own pocket & then claim it back. I had to do this when I was working & had to explain what the purchase was for etc. & work out GST, it was quite a time consuming exercise. I did not mind as I accumulated points on my credit card for rewards.
    Spitfire
    10th Jan 2017
    5:40pm
    Establish a tribunal and if found guilty:
    1. Sack them; and
    2. Strip them of any rights to a pension or other perks; and
    3. Never be again trusted to be elected or occupy any public office.
    mIKER
    10th Jan 2017
    5:41pm
    Sussan Ley has deservedly stirred up a hornet's nest of haters, but are we ignoring the root cause of dissatisfaction?
    Obviously using our money to travel to the Gold Coast to buy a property is reprehensible. However, but the real issue is that with homelessness rising, fewer individuals eligible or able to fulfil the Aussie dream of home ownership, our government insists on providing incentives to investors to buy property via Negative Gearing and a 50% discount on Capital Gains Tax. This has significantly increased home prices and denied access to buyers who actually want to live in their own home.
    One can't assume that Ms Ley will be taking advantage of these tax concessions, but nearly half of our pollies already have one or far more NG properties, so why should she be the one to miss out?
    And that's the core reason for discontent. The wealthy can acquire property on a whim and get the taxpayer to help them buy it and the young people and increasing numbers of elderly are condemned to renting and with no chance of building any wealth, thanks to Messrs Howard and Costello and the weak governments that succeeded them.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    5:54pm
    See my post above, MlKER.... and you got that 100% RIGHT.
    Patriot
    10th Jan 2017
    6:08pm
    100% agree with that.

    So, how do you think that we get a bill introduced into parliament (and voted upon) to abandon these massive amounts of support to the fatcats?

    Even IF a bill to this extend were to be introduced, almost nobody would be able to vote on this bill due to clashes with personal pecuniary interest.

    Almost ALL pollies have a nest-egg like that!

    So, until we mount a revolution - we're STUFFED!!!
    Jackie
    10th Jan 2017
    7:09pm
    Of course she will have her hand out for more taxpayers dollars by negatively gearing this investment property. It is of course just another device for transferring wealth upwards. Its not a productive investnent which might benefit the economy, just a get richer quicker device for the well off, or at least the well paid.
    Snowflake
    10th Jan 2017
    5:44pm
    Tired of the misuse of public money? I take it that question is rhetorical?

    10th Jan 2017
    5:47pm
    Ley is not the first politician who has been caught with fingers in the cookie jar nor will she be the last unless the system is changed. We always hear the excuse that what was done was within guidelines and what is needed is a set of rules not a system of guidelines.

    Whenever a politician has to attend a meeting it is usually the politician who sets the time and date and my cynical self thinks how easy it would be to set up a meeting to coincide with a personal function to allow drawing of expenses. Why do politicians have to be "on site" to make an announcement of the start of a project or the release of funds to allow a project to be commenced? In this day and age, a video cross could be arranged and an announcement made from Canberra or the politician's electorate.

    What is needed is a set of rules just the same as most private businesses have whereby all claims must be work related and any non work related claims must me paid for by the member. Why do we have to pay for partners? Politicians are elected, partners and family are not. At least that ridiculous loophole has been narrowed in that politicians can only claim fares for family visits to Canberra not Cairns or Uluru as has been done in the past. Now the loophole has to be closed altogether. Family visits and having family accompany members is an anachronism left over from the days of steam when it took days to get somewhere, not hours. The exception to this would be the same as a PM or Foreign Minister who is allowed to take a spouse if the invitation to visit specifically states that a partner is also invited.

    There must be a separate department raised in the ATO which has as its only task reviewing and approving politicians claims. The ATO is very good at allowing or disallowing claims from business or our personal income tax returns and will be very capable when it comes to interpreting politicians' "guidelines". To ensure fairness this department will have a rotating staff to reduce favouritism.

    What I find sad about all of this is that the term "pub test" gets bandied about which infers that it is really OK to draw what you like whenever you like but if a couple of guys get a few beers aboard and whinge about it then it should be looked at. No, drop the guidelines and bring in a set of hard and fast rules. I heard one politician moan about how if the guidelines were replaced by rules that to stop for a coffee would not be allowed. It's this sort of childish mentality that got most of them into trouble in the first place.
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    6:00pm
    Spot on - they can't afford a cup of coffee like anyone else? Life's tough on a big salary and all found.....

    I worked for years in security transport - if and when I stopped for a cup of coffee (a rare occurrence when you are relief and not fat-catted in your job) - I didn't get to claim some overnight allowance more than weekly payment to an unemployed person to do it.

    I paid for it, took it on board the vehicle and drank it as I drove.... most times... and once I spilt it all over the dash in an emergency stop. And it wasn't a tax deduction or part of my work conditions either... the company didn't pay for it.

    Fer Chris' Sake - what do these people expect for doing the public a service? A Kingdom of their own?
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    7:41pm
    And while they are at it, something has to be done about the daily rate being paid to politicians whilst in Canberra. If a politician, or a partner, or a family trust owns property in Canberra then a different rate must be struck as against those who use hotels or board or similar.
    Old Geezer
    10th Jan 2017
    7:26pm
    Gee when was someone guilty and had to prove their innocence?
    sunnyOz
    10th Jan 2017
    7:32pm
    Oh No!!!!
    Anonymous
    10th Jan 2017
    7:38pm
    OG, are you saying that she is innocent? If she was, why has she been stood down by her Boss and her pay reduced accordingly? The more we hear about all of this, the murkier it gets. Sorry, but I can't see any innocence in this whatsoever and I realise Australian law wants all people to be innocent until proven guilty butsometimes the evidence is just so overwhelming.
    Anonymous
    11th Jan 2017
    8:09am
    Um, when you condemned people you know nothing about as ''greedy'' and ''selfish'' for objecting to pension cuts, OG. Don't suppose it ever occurred to you that you are applying DOUBLE STANDARDS, you HYPOCRITE?
    Anonymous
    11th Jan 2017
    8:14am
    Oh yes, and the Centrelink claimants who declared income properly? They are GUILTY until they present further evidence of innocence, even though most of them have already substantiated their claims correctly.

    OG, your spots are showing. An LNP troll with double-standards, no respect for others and no conscience!
    older&wiser
    10th Jan 2017
    7:29pm
    Only thing she will be feeling sorry about is being CAUGHT
    PlanB
    11th Jan 2017
    8:14am
    Damn right -- same as that bitch B Bishop
    francobee
    10th Jan 2017
    7:30pm
    Please note, she has not stepped down without pay, she is losing her ministerial extra pay, and I think you will find she will get it back when she is reinstated, as she undoubtedly will be. She will not lose anything apart from what she voluntarily pays back.
    Not Amused
    10th Jan 2017
    7:42pm
    "An impulse buy" as if the average punter nonchalantly forks out hundreds of thousands of dollars on impulse. Well only if you are a politician with its snout deep into the taxpayer trough. Talk about an insult to all the people being hunted down by Centrelink for perhaps making a small mistake for a couple of hundred dollars. Like the many women who are gifted with ministerial portfolios and high-level positions in politics, she's shot herself in the foot. She's a fool and I can say all that because I'm a woman. A man wouldn't dare say it even if he thought it because he would be labelled a misogynist and hung from the nearest lamp post for merely speaking the observation out loud.
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    8:16pm
    I know many women(and men for that matter) who would love to be able to drop $795,000 on an impulse buy. Wouldn't have to be a holiday apartment, could be a fancy car, a boat, jewellery. Why do you think so many people play lotto every week? We all dream of having the ability to buy anything we want.

    And there is no suggestion that there is anything irregular about Ms Ley's impulse purchase. The allegations are about travel and hotel expenses.
    PlanB
    11th Jan 2017
    8:17am
    Could even be your 1st HOME for those that are finding it IMPOSSIBLE to even afford one!
    gumtree
    10th Jan 2017
    8:02pm
    how can I get 'step down without pay' for a mere $200,000 pa? Let her survive on the pension- couple rate!
    KSS
    10th Jan 2017
    8:26pm
    Step 1: You have to get elected as a Member of Parliament,
    Step 2: Then be chosen for a ministerial portfolio by the Prime Minister. That gives you about 35% extra on your MP salary of $199,000.
    Step 3: Then do something that warrants an investigation (preferably multiple times thus ensuring an investigation) and be stood down for the duration of that investigation thereby losing the extra $140,000, at least temporarily, thus rendering it necessary for you to manage on the meagre $199,000 salary of an MP.

    Three easy steps. Simple!
    gumtree
    10th Jan 2017
    8:16pm
    So Ms Ly says the investigation is a 'distraction'. Wow- a liar & a thief caught out & its a distraction but still on $200,000 pa. Give me a distraction please!
    Dot
    10th Jan 2017
    9:11pm
    It's typical of all in Government have a look at the following
    Who is the Queen Bee of Them All?


    Total Personal Staff members for US First ladies

    Mamie Eisenhower: One - paid for personally, out of President's salary.

    Total number of Personal Staff Members paid by Tax Payers
    Jackie Kennedy: One
    Lady Bird Johnson: One
    Pat Nixon: One
    Betty Ford: One
    Rosaline Carter: One
    Barbara Bush: One
    Hilary Clinton: Seven
    Laura Bush: One
    Michele Obama: Twenty-two

    Yep….your eyes don’t deceive you. You want to read WASTE? ....Scroll on down.

    Michele Obama's personal staff: Take a closer look
    One.. $192,200 - Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
    Two.. $160,000 - Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects)
    Three.. $133,000 - Rogers, Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary)
    Four.. $122,000 - Johnston, Camille Y. (Director of Communications)
    Five.. $120,000 - Winter, Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
    Six.. $110,000 - Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff)
    Seven.. $104,000 - Lilyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary)
    Eight.. $ 95,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance)
    Nine.. $ 90,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects)
    Ten.. $ 85,000 - Burnough, Erinn (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
    Eleven.. $ 84,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
    Twelve.. $ 82,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator)
    Thirteen.. $ 80,000 - Fitz, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director)
    Fourteen.. $ 77,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide)
    Fifteen.. $ 72,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary)
    Sixteen.. $ 70,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide)
    Seventeen.. $ 65,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence)
    Eighteen.. $ 63,000 - Tubman, Samantha A. (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
    Nineteen.. $ 60,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff)
    Twenty.. $ 56,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
    Twenty-One.. $ 55,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)
    Twenty-Two.. $ 55,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence)

    That’s a Total...$2,075,200 in annual salaries - all for someone we did not vote for and apparently have no control over

    5 staff are Muslim and 13 African-American.

    There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's
    social life.

    This does not include:

    "Makeup artist" Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49,

    "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31,

    Both of whom travelled aboard Air Force One on ALL Trips, Europe included.

    As of 11/15/2015 the Obama Family has spent over $1,300,000,000 (one billion, three hundred million dollars) on personal family trips. They were personal, not political or Government related.

    How things have changed! If you're one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at WalMart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of "Ms. Michelle"
    are the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by YOU the American public..




    Copyright Canada Free Press

    Yes…… The Canadian Free Press had to publish this, perhaps because America no longer has a free press and the USA media is afraid that they might be considered racist.


    in regards to Obama's wife,

    10th Jan 2017
    10:32pm
    Well...for my final comment in amidst all my 'posturing' (thank you KSS) - I'll just say that the responses here show more than clearly how UTTERLY DISGUSTED the Australian voting public is with this current fiasco of government of 2.2 parties... LNP/Labor/Greens... an Unholy Alliance if ever there was one.....

    Time for a real party of the real people, methinks.
    LiveItUp
    11th Jan 2017
    7:13am
    What a lot of disgusting comments!

    Everyone deserves a free trial and certainly not a trial by a biased media social or otherwise.
    Anonymous
    11th Jan 2017
    8:03am
    Ah, there she is at last! And defending the right to a fair trial. Odd that she doesn't defend the right of pensioners to a ''fair trial'' to assess their real needs. No, she just ASSUMES they are guilty of greed and bombards them with insults. One rule for the pollies and another for the rest, eh Bonny?
    gadsby
    11th Jan 2017
    7:20am
    this is one girl ,who seriously loves the Gold Coast,and along with the Bishop girls,loves aviation.
    PlanB
    11th Jan 2017
    7:46am
    SACK HER
    Patriot
    11th Jan 2017
    8:54am
    And so the "Gravy Train" rolls along with now even the deputy to Big Mal being implicated in "Rorts against the Australian People".

    When & When will it stop??????

    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/01/10/taxpayers-billed-julie-bishop-trip-polo-match/?utm_source=Responsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170111_TND
    PlanB
    11th Jan 2017
    9:27am
    Thanks for that site Patriot, what utter elitist smirking scum we have in Government -- sack the &^%*#@^ lot of them !

    Plus all the Visas that are doing our people out of jobs AND are in a lot of cases doing INFERIOR work!
    MacI
    11th Jan 2017
    10:10am
    Amongst any group of people there will be some who will push the boundaries of entitlements and beyond. In my experience the looser the policies the more it gives licence for those who fall into this category to take advantage.

    Sadly it would seem that our politicians, of whatever ilk, are no better than the general community in this respect when we should reasonably expect a higher standard of behaviour, given the high office they occupy and that they are there to serve their constituency at public expense. Couple this with policies so ill defined and open to interpretation it is no wonder this is what is happening again and again.
    Ashacairns
    11th Jan 2017
    10:45am
    Just so we all understand: Sussan Ley is still getting her pay and allowances at a MP. She has just lost her MINISTERIAL pay
    PlanB
    11th Jan 2017
    10:50am
    Really it does give one the $*&^$ that they have such elitist attitudes and treat us like we are not worth anything, they really do need to get off their high horses and start being empathetic -- I wish we could sack the ----- lot of them without there darn perks
    Jackie
    11th Jan 2017
    3:56pm
    Yes, she is now reduced to an annualcsalart of $200,000 plus, yes you guessed it, travel and miltiple other allowances! Plus of course, pension for life, no waiting, starts the day she leaves parliament, not means tested ed etc etc etc.
    libsareliars
    11th Jan 2017
    1:30pm
    These people are so arrogant and rotten to the core. They should be sacked, talk about double standards - do as I say not as I do. They make me sick.
    NotAgain
    11th Jan 2017
    2:12pm
    She should be sacked and stripped of all her entitlements.
    How dare she get away with such a dispicable act.
    All other MP's who do the same thing should get the boot as well.
    PIXAPD
    11th Jan 2017
    2:57pm
    She trained under Bronwyn Bishop.....both should be sacked
    Patriot
    11th Jan 2017
    3:06pm
    Bit tough to sack Bronnie.

    Both of them should indeed be stood down and - if allegations are proven - they should face Court Action to be judged by a Jury of 12 (The OWN the legal Magistrate system) as per Australian Constitution.

    If found guilty, they should not only "Do the time" but be separated from their Pensions & "Lurks & Perks" forever!
    sunnyOz
    11th Jan 2017
    6:57pm
    She's got her own pilot's license - why can't she fly her damn self?
    Jackie
    11th Jan 2017
    10:16pm
    She has in fact done just that too, at taxpayer expense of course, and guess what? That allows her to keep her pilots licence!
    PlanB
    12th Jan 2017
    7:09am
    YEs she can fly herself IF she pays for the plane HERSELF -- which she did NOT she got taxpayers to pay for it
    iggy648
    11th Jan 2017
    7:34pm
    $40,000 in airfares? It's not a biggie really. She's only got to get Centrelink to get 100 peasants to repay $400 each and it's paid for!
    bike30
    14th Jan 2017
    5:23am
    Ley now has fallen on her own sword......warning for all ministers
    PlanB
    14th Jan 2017
    11:21am
    Now we just have to get the others ALL OF THEM to fall on their swords -- J Bishop / Burke / Hunt / just about every darn one of them!
    Anonymous
    15th Jan 2017
    10:17am
    But do they really fall? I mean, they may lose their ministerial privileges, but they retain their seat and their huge salary and benefits until they retire in luxury!
    PlanB
    15th Jan 2017
    5:23pm
    Yes Rainey, thats right and they should lose the lot

    15th Jan 2017
    10:21am
    Anyone noticing a marked difference between the treatment of an MP suspected of fraud and a Centrelink recipient who MIGHT have been overpaid?

    The latter is automatically assumed to be a dishonest criminal and bullied until they can prove innocence, or else forced into further hardship to repay - from a subsistence income - what might not have been an overpayment at all - while the former is ''innocent until proved guilty'' and even if guilty allowed to retain a $199,000 a year salary and all benefits until he/she retires in luxury at taxpayer expense.

    And some IDIOTS here try to justify this!
    PlanB
    17th Jan 2017
    6:46am
    You can count on me to be appalled by it Rainy, and be so frustrated about it and the fact that no matter what we Plebs do they take not a bloody scrap of notice!
    Patriot
    15th Jan 2017
    10:45am
    The Canberra CRIMs must think we're thick.
    As can be witnessed, Ley is made the "Scapegoat ???" and her resignation as a minister is widely published. No criminal investigation is mooted for any as far as I observe - But then again - I refuse to watch the "Main Stream News" (Idiot Box) so this may not be correct.
    Big Mal & the others are just not talking about Jules, Mat, Kevin and - beyond a shadow of any doubt - many others!
    Are they hoping this will - like on many other occasions - just go away?
    And will it without us kicking up some MAJOR STINK!!!!!!!
    Have we become too complacent.
    Where's Don Chip to "Keep the BASTARDS HONEST"??????
    From what date onwards was Blatant and Wilful THEFT NO A CRIME in Australia????

    Next time I accidentally get "Caught in a Speed Trap" in the car, I'll just promise to do better next time, observe the signs I assure them that this was accidental and just a "Once Off".
    At the same time as a "Flock of pigs flies overhead" the cops will l"Let me Off".

    15th Jan 2017
    1:19pm
    poor susan. she'll have to subsist on the income from her property portfolio.
    Jackie
    15th Jan 2017
    2:02pm
    And, of course, her parliamentary salary now reduced to a mere $200,000 p.a. but still with travel and multiple other perks. Maybe less of the private plane flying, which she was using to keep up her pilot licence hours. Other than that, business as usual!
    Mad as Hell
    15th Jan 2017
    1:25pm
    Bronwyn Bishop, Sussan Ley, ..........
    Who said "PIGS can't fly" ?
    And then they've got the gall to savage part pensions in the Assets Test.
    Jackie
    15th Jan 2017
    2:05pm
    Julie Bishop will be spitting chips now that her little game is up - forced to cancel the polo this weekend - claiming the Japanese visit was the reason - but she would have gone there to be seen and simper around all over the place for her own benefit - certainly no Foreign Affairs business can justify the huge travel bills for her AND the bloke who trots along with her everywhere. The others will be getting nervous.
    Jackie
    15th Jan 2017
    2:09pm
    At last Malcolm's hand is forced - but it seems to me his solution (said to be his own??) of this 5 person "independent" board (why a board for heavens sake) is overkill. Surely to God it cant be that hard for a clear cut set of rules to be written, and the claims submitted to a public servant in Treasury, to check and approve. Monthly reporting and searchability are the best features. These 5 new roles look like "jobs for the good old Lib boys" to me. Most of these sort of roles pay an whopping $350,000 P.A. The Greens are right, this setup should be expanded to include the anti-corruption element, so at least this gang of 5 might be earning their pay. Oh, and guess what political party the "exMP" would be coming from?
    Captain
    15th Jan 2017
    2:21pm
    Don't forget the 100 or so public servants to help the poor overwhelmed 5 independent board members.
    Needy not Greedy
    16th Jan 2017
    11:44pm
    Of more concern to me is this stinking mongrel Herr von Mathias Cormann, what a deadset arsehole this prick is, after sitting in the background orchestrating the flogging to death of retirees and pensioners this piece of shit has had his nose in the trough of taxpayers money as well, now he expects us to believe that he was entitled to take his missus to a Broome resort half a dozen times because part of his role is to mix with the common people, pity the mongrel didn't stand on a stone fish and get some of the pain he is putting us oldies through.
    PlanB
    17th Jan 2017
    6:52am
    Needy, I fully agree with you, I loath Cormann, smirking elitist scum that he is !


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