Voters revolt

The announcement of proposed budget measures seems to have dented voter confidence in the Government.

Voters revolt

The announcement of the increase in Age Pension age, the proposed ‘debt levy’ and co-payment to see a doctor, seem to have dented voter confidence in the Government.

A Galaxy poll undertaken on behalf of the Herald Sun (Victoria’s News Limited publication) has shown that 69 per cent of voters were opposed to the raising of the Age Pension eligibility age to 70. Of this 69 per cent, 54 per cent were Coalition voters and 84 per cent supported Labor. Treasurer Joe Hockey announced on Friday that raising the Age Pension eligibility age to 70 by 2035 would be legislation that the Coalition Government would endeavour to have passed.

In the same poll however, 54 per cent of Coalition voters supported the introduction of a co-payment of $6 to see the doctor, while only 15 per cent of Labor voters were inclined to do the same. It should be noted that while people were polled on the question of a $6 fee with no fee for concession card holders, the actual fee is likely to be between $6 and $15, with a reduced fee for concession card holders.

Managing director of Galaxy, David Briggs said no matter how the Government introduced the measures, the idea of austerity cuts didn’t appeal to many voters. “What we are seeing is that it really doesn’t matter how you slice and dice it, the Government really hasn’t sold the idea of the austerity measures.”

Even older voters, who would not be affected by the change in the Age Pension eligibility age, weren’t happy and, as observed by Mr Briggs, perhaps this is because the Age Pension age is seen as a rite of passage. “Maybe the general consensus is that you work all your life, and when you reach a certain age, you access the pension,” Mr Briggs said.

The poll also looked at overall voting intention and, if an election were held today, Tony Abbott would lose, with the Coalition Government’s two-party preferred vote down to 48 per cent to Labor’s 52 per cent, believed to be largely driven by the mooted introduction of a ‘debt tax’. Last year’s federal election saw the Abbott-led Coalition attract 53.5 per cent of the two-party preferred vote to Labor’s 46.5 per cent.

Read more at News.com.au


Opinion: Too much too soon

The poll results announced by Galaxy indicate that the Government has simply pushed too far, too soon the faith shown by voters in September.

While many voters would concur that the country’s income and expenditure needs to be better balanced, the wave of cuts and measures being bandied about is just too much to bear for the average Australian. I doubt that anyone minds paying more for essential services such as Medicare. And few people would question that those who are in the higher income brackets should pay more than others, but it’s unrealistic to ask people to take the hit twice, maybe even three times.

You simply can’t expect people to pay more for visits to the doctor, force them into expensive private health insurance and then slug them for a debt tax. It has to be one or the other. And let’s not forget that from 1 July most of the wage earning population will be paying an extra half per cent Medicare Levy to cover the roll-out of the National Disability Insurance Scheme which, if recommendations of the Commission of Audit are accepted, will be slowed down considerably. Will taxpayers see this levy reduced as a result? Highly unlikely.

Raising the Age Pension eligibility age to 70 by 2035 is also a knee-jerk reaction. While many would agree that funding and eligibility criteria for the Age Pension need an overhaul, making people work to 70, without the essential policies and programs to enable them to do so, is not the answer. Even the Commission of Audit, which was paid handsomely by the Government for its expert views, recommended that the eligibility age does not need to be lifted to 70 until 2053.

Also, it’s important to note that not only has the much-discussed co-payment to see a bulk-billing doctor been raised from $6 to $15 (or somewhere in between), but the language surrounding it has also changed. Now it’s being mooted as a co-payment to see a doctor, not a co-payment to see a bulk-billing doctor. Given that those not holding a concession card already pay up to $40 more than the Medicare rebate of $36.30, this extra charge, if not linked to bulk-billing, is simply too much.

But so many of the cuts, taxes, co-payments and rule changes discussed as possible budget measures are too much, and herein lies the rub. While everyone is concerned about what the budget will bring, Joe Hockey and Tony Abbott are not. They know exactly which measures the voters will have to bear and, therefore, much of what the Commission of Audit has recommended will simply be shelved for a later date. It is unlikely that this budget will be as painful as many expect, but that doesn’t mean we can rest easy.

Are you ready for budget pain, or do you expect little will change in Joe Hockey’s first federal budget? Do you think that the recommendations made by the Commission of Audit should form the basis of the federal budget? Are there any of the possible budget measures to which you are opposed? Or are there any you would like to see?





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    tiger
    5th May 2014
    10:19am
    Australia deserves what they voted for, so stop whinging.
    Nightshade
    5th May 2014
    1:28pm
    WE THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA HAVE NO ONE TO VOTE FOR
    THE POLITICAL SYSTEM OF AUSTRALIA & THE POLITICAL ARENA
    HAVE BEEN SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS
    WE HAD NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER

    tiger :- you say we deserve - sorry but we do not deserve this.

    The Ukraine has been ruled by dictatorial governments since World War 2.
    Democracy & Viktor Yanukovich came -
    Now:-
    QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED & ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.
    No more riding rough shot & looting at will.
    You can now be arrested - tried & executed for past crimes perpetrated upon the state & it's people.
    Some had a little think about this & saw the writing on the wall -

    They stole the assets & ran - including the GOLD of the Ukraine
    Millions of dollars worth of GOLD belonging to the Ukraine is said to have been removed from the country PRIOR to the FAKE COUP
    With a little help from friends & media in the West -
    FAKE BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE.
    NOW ALL THEY NEED IS A CIVIL WAR & SOME ETHNIC CLEANSING
    And all will be forgotten
    They will have gotten away with it.......
    This is us also -
    Nightshade
    5th May 2014
    1:29pm
    Democracy is not the aristocratic way -
    Nightshade
    5th May 2014
    1:39pm
    ISRAEL :-
    INTEL will spend 6 BILLION DOLLARS upgrading their plant in Israel
    1.000 jobs will be created
    $6. 000. 000. 000 - = six million
    how may more zeros to make a BILLION ?
    JUST TO CREATE 1.000 jobs - ????????????????????
    INTEL COULD NOT RAISE A BRASS RAZOO
    so it must be the government of Israel that is borrowing the money for INTEL
    THIS IS THE PUBLIC PURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ?
    THIS IS THE TAX PAYER THAT IS GOING TO PAY BECK THE MONEY ?
    WE ALL HOPE THAT NONE OF THE 6 BILLION IS SYPHONED AWAY INTO PRIVATE POCKETS.

    May be I read it wrong, or they wrote it wrong - how could such a thing happen ?
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    1:52pm
    Interesting Nightshade.

    1000 jobs costing $6m each. This would have paid 1000 of our pensioners for about 160 years
    moke
    5th May 2014
    2:46pm
    Oh! Tiger one has to vote and the choice is which of two bad parties does one vote for, your done if you do and done if you don't so there is really no choice at all.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    7:46pm
    Or 6 Retired Pollies for 3 Years !!
    Rod63
    5th May 2014
    10:21am
    Yep - too much, too soon, but it's the lies people should be concerned about, seeing that the built their campaign on julia Gillard being a liar. Mind you, only one was ever mentioned - the carbon pricing.
    Kopernicus
    5th May 2014
    12:46pm
    Does deceit -none of this was mentioned before the election),
    lack of transparency - what IS happening with asylum centers and the inquiry), dishonesty - 'we'll govern for all Australians' - not just the Big End of Town), elaborate machinations - budget 'emergency' and hand picked Commission of Audit that represents business interests only,
    possible corruption (eg mooted changes to financial planning probity rules which disadvantage consumer but not donor/planner) ............ don't all of these count as lies developed and woven into a modus operandi ?
    rtrish
    5th May 2014
    10:22am
    The bulk bulling co-payment - good point, that will be "co-payment for a bulk-billing doctor." My thoughts on the co-payment - yes, I could probably pay $5 or $6. Can you imagine the line up at the receptionist's desk, "OK, who's got their $5 to hand over?" More paperwork for the GP's surgeries. And in the long term, re co-payment, it's ... the thin edge of the wedge.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    2:54pm
    Nothing but an attack on Medibank.... and a new tax like the GST with the doc doing all the paperwork for it and the $6 being absorbed in extra costs, as usual.

    Ideological attack pure and simple - and remember these guys got their 'ideology' in arguments on the university quadrangle - now there's a body of informed nobodies I'd listen to every day!
    Ozetwo
    5th May 2014
    10:29am
    My confidence in this government is certainly not dented. I never had any in the first place.They have an elitist agenda and will say or do anything to get into power to implement it.
    Public assets will be sold off. Once the "golden goose" has been sold, the eggs will be rented back at ever increasing prices.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    7:57pm
    The Parti Party...
    You know all that stuff we promised at the election ?..
    Yeah ! Well ! We are not doing any of that now..
    Suckers !!!
    I was in the Wilderness for so long I nearly turned Feral !! I wanted that Crown at any cost and as You know all's fair in Love and War !!
    Thank You Fans...Parti....
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    10:36am
    This would possibly be fine if the Austerity was being applied at all levels. But it is not the big end of town seems to be getting away relatively free.
    tiger
    5th May 2014
    10:47am
    No word said yet about the cut the politicians will be asked to take or their entitlements stopped yet we the poor of this country the least well off have to bear the most while this scum fill their pockets and say how lucky are we.
    LENYJAC
    5th May 2014
    3:00pm
    COME ON AUSTRALIA LETS BAND TOGETHER AND DEMAND THAT THESE OVERPAID LIARS REDUCE THEIR OUTLANDISH PAY PACKETS AND LURKS AND PERKS AND COME BACK TO REALITY, AFTER ALL THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR US NOT THEMSELVES... OR HAVE WE ALL FORGOTTEN THAT FACT???????
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    8:02pm
    LENY JAK.. I'll have You know that all of those Lurks and Perks were decided upon by an Independent Tribunal !!.. Yeah ! Right !!..
    Jurassicgeek
    5th May 2014
    10:40am
    Agree tiger ...if you voted for them you got what you deserve.. There is no need for all this hardship and heartache to be imposed on those who can least afford it..pensioners are going without already while the mega rich pay little or no tax..and live like kings Gina Reinhardt is one case where she is claiming she cant get mine workers so she has a bunch of people on 457 visas working for low wages...and all the profit goes to her...we are the suckers for letting her and others get away with it...it would not be because abbott and co are in her back pocket by any chance??
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    11:16am
    And she gets all these fuel subsidies etc. Maybe she will start employing local people when the minimum wage is dropped to subsistence level as recommended by the commission of audit. Maybe because they are recommending this maybe they should recommend a maximum wage as well.
    Pass the Ductape
    5th May 2014
    12:13pm
    Hmmmm - makes you wonder what Gina does with all that money doesn't it? But one look at the girl should tell anyone what she does with a generous amount of it!
    KSS
    5th May 2014
    12:27pm
    Gina's money is all tied up in trust funds for her children to fight over!
    moke
    5th May 2014
    2:57pm
    Not Just in her back pocket but at the dinner table and joining in anywhere she chooses to lead them. Then there are all the other top dogs pandering to our useless government, just so they do not have to contribute to what a mess our country has been put into by Politicians who are supposed to GOVERN THE COUNTRY NOT RIP IT OFF TO SERVE THEM SELVES. If you had to be a volunteer to get into parliament there would be no of these people in there, What no lurks and perks forget it.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    2:58pm
    No - her money is not all tied up - she has going concerns - they look for deposits of ores that are plain to the naked eye and then flog them off to overseas buyers... hard work that! On top of that she gets royalties on each ton of ore from 'her' holdings.

    Joh in Queensland got his money start that way - bought two prospecting licences for $2 each and flogged them off for $12,000 each - a tidy sum at the time..

    Nothing has changed in the rip-off end of town....
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    3:01pm
    And of course it is absurd for anyone to say they can't get workers here. That is nothing more than an excuse to get away with lower wages. if the government had any balls - and neither side do - they would enforce a training program, seniority within the industry etc, and Australian Workers First policy instead of the current 754 Visa (reverse of the 457) for Australian workers - if you have one you can't get work unless Gina wants you to.
    Brissiegirl
    5th May 2014
    10:47am
    They appear to have lied just as quickly as Gillard did and we all know what happened to her. Unfortunately for Julia Gillard, the worst is yet to come. Lies and deceit "deceit tax" won't be forgotten. The worst part is that Tony and Joe will deliver Labor back into government to do even more damage. I'm already hearing people saying they will ditch their medications and gp consultations and only ask for help if they feel like they are dying. And think of all those advertising campaigns telling people to be pro-active, to see a doctor if they have symptoms so they can they prevent costly long-term medical conditions. Maybe Abbott and Hockey can have that mass media advice stopped. As for the deceit tax, they are asking the hardest workers, the most aspirational and responsible taxpaying citizens to fund Labor's mess when these people were statistically the most unlikely to have put the Liberals there in the first place. They've got it wrong, they are already regarded by swinging voters as untrustworthy ( and remember, it's swing voters who decide who governs). A tax is a tax A promise is a promise and a lie is a lie is a lie. They are gone before they even started. We have a politically savvy electorate with memories (constantly updated through the internet) like elephants. It won't work Joe, you and Abbott are a massive disappointment. As for that smirking audit fool who personally adjudicated that 11 doctor visits average per person pa means "HE" thinks we aren't "all that crook", you front up to the chronically ill and face their feedback, you silly little man.
    tiger
    5th May 2014
    11:00am
    it's always the poor that are mostly down trodden but they rise up stronger to fight another day, another army another Government, So beware Abbott and Hockey your days are numbered.
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    11:18am
    They have gone beyond the so called lie of Julia Gillard they have gone to multiple lies.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    8:12pm
    One of You must be going to the Doc's 22 times a year ?? Because I haven't been in 15 years !!....
    Well put there Brissiegirl !!
    DC
    5th May 2014
    11:05am
    Here we go again: the last couple of weeks nothing but Doom and Gloom provided by this site. I am sorry but where were you guys complaining about Labor Government policies which brought us to the financial state we are in??????
    It is always the same: Labor in Government spends money left, right and center and the the Libs come in and try to bring matters back to a sustainable level. Result: Uproar and
    despair. Time and again the same cycle. I am not happy either about having to pay extra on top of all the expenses we pensioners already have. There should be a law that ensures that all politicians are held responsible, personally (!!) for any blowouts, waste etc - and not allowed to simply walk away with golden handshakes and life super payments after.
    I do agree with Debbie on one point that the budget most likely will not be as devastating as it is currently portrayed.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    11:23am
    All Australians must tighten their belts. We have been living beyond our means for a long time. During office Labor squandered billions (pink batts, school halls etc) and our borrowings went ballistic. Remember, this was during the greatest income boost Australia has seen. (Mining Boom) However, those days are over. Even Bligh in Queensland, had us in debt to the tune of 80 Billion and buggared up our credit rating. Now we have to all pay interest of billions on excess borrowing. You just cannot go on forever. We have to reduce our debts dramatically and quickly. However it is the governments job to get their priorities right. This means to cut spending and increase the tax take. The money should not be taken from pensioners and disadvantaged, but should come from those that can afford it. People will have to drink less booze, stop smoking, curb gambling and get off their chuffs. The work force needs to become much more efficient with all the dead wood supervisors and their advisers being scrapped. Many less unproductive chiefs and lots more indians prepared to work. A new mind set has to take over. Like years ago, when people knew how to work.
    Diamond Jim
    5th May 2014
    1:05pm
    What financial state???? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=256842271168064&set=a.108884279297198.14038.100005268788222&type=1&theater
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    3:04pm
    WE? Who's this 'we', white man? I don't recall living on much more than the oil of a smelly rage for years now - partly due to stupid government 'policies' in several arenas.

    First step - get rid of all these 'consultants' at $1500-$3300 a day...... sheer waste and jobs for the cronies when the job is already in the hands of public servants.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    8:20pm
    I feel so Guilty now after reading that !! That I am now going to donate My last bottle of 1959 Grange Hermigage to the Liberal Party to help them out !!
    Swinging voter
    5th May 2014
    11:15am
    I agree and everyone in this room is saying they are forcing too much, too soon and did not put these things to the voters. No changes to pensions, health, education, no surprises, no excuses, no taxes (isn't a debt (DECEIT) tax a tax or is that an excuse) (?) Older people start planning at least five years before applying for a pension so nothing should change whatsoever until LNP take their pension threats to an election. Hockey et al must not get a parliamentary pension until 70. My bricklayer friend father of two works weekends, back almost buggered, keeps going so he can keep the kids warm, buy their sporting gear and wife can take them to the footy once a fortnight. "Higher income earner" what a laugh considering parliamentarians early pensions and perks. Who do these people think they are. They attacked (offended) old people and retirees too many of them on their last legs BIG MISTAKE. Didn't account for oldies being way too life experienced to forget fat cats tried to walk all over them. Yes someone says very informed, the oldies are all on the internet if I were Hockey and Abbott I'd be backing off seniors quick smart.
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    11:22am
    Politions are more and more being shown as stupid. They lie and by the next election they spout "trust us". Let hope we are not stupid enough to believe them.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    3:06pm
    Time for that new party - I propose we call it the Grappler Party..... oh, all right.... call it the Griper's party or anything you want - as long as it comes out GP - the doctor you need to fix this country!
    Oars
    5th May 2014
    11:22am
    When a ship has holes in it you patch the holes up, before bit sinks. When the cupboard has been raided by thieves, you replenesh it with needs from the few coins left. How fast the "bludger" types forget after the last lot of rogues spun their lies and spun Oz into a downhill spiral of debt. Smarten up Ozzy.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    11:26am
    Spot on. Lets get off our bums and learn to work again. Far too much drift wood lying about. We have become a country of boozey no hopers.
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    11:27am
    And this lot are not raiding. They are raiding the less better off and ensuring the top lot are still filling their coffers. I don't think most people would not bear some suffering as long as it is equitable across everyone. They say that people are rorting the system, you bet and the biggest rorters are at the top end of town
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    11:36am
    Yes there are a lot of bums and no hopers expecting the state to look after them. I do find it unbelievable that over 800,000 people out of population of 23m are disabled. Australia must be a very a very sick place to live.

    Also as far as medicare is concerned why not raise the levy to cover this. At least the upper end of town would be paying more.
    Swinging voter
    5th May 2014
    11:55am
    Yes fix it up but do it gradually, do it well and win the next election. Bludgeon everyone around the head through no fault of their own and pay the political price. They got it wrong. Public feedback was we are sick of the entitlement mentality but what did that mean.Did Hockey and Abbott in their cosy offices analyse what was meant by entitlement mentality? Illegal Centrelink seekers getting things that Australians begged for, dole bludgers, tax avoiders, politicians perks, fake disabled. It was never about old people who set aside nest eggs sothey could have a holiday before they drop off the twig. The entitlement mentality feedback was badly misread and now the best people we always had, the ones who went without to buy their houses are being told oh, you suckers, you fixed up your houses for your old age, you put your solar in, you made it comfy with your hand rails, your heating, your ramps, you thought it would be nice to leave it to your kids, it's worth more now than when you slogged it out paying it off, so pay up to the real estate agents, give us the stamp duty on a smaller, less comfy home, get rid of it you entitlement mentality aged, go somewhere else, start again. What a bloody cheek. They are detestable, inconsiderate, nasty and they used to run on the "reward for effort" mentality but now they want to penalise all the wrong people for other people's mistakes. Too much too fast and insensitive to say the very least.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:43pm
    Wstaton is right - this disease covers both 'sides' who are in reality little apart other than in their prurient self-interest.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    8:39pm
    Translation.. (prurient self- interest) Lewd thoughts self interest.. lustful ,Indecent.. I've a good mind to Dob them into the next Costly Inquest.ER !! Enquiry !!
    BrianP
    5th May 2014
    11:24am
    Comment from the Australian Voice Party - We have a better way. Go to our website and support us.

    Governments are not coping well with the challenge of managing an ageing population. They need to see that spending on older Australians is an investment, not a burden.

    Australian Voice recognizes that Seniors have contributed all their lives to their communities. It is only right that Government produces policies that safeguard Seniors’ lifestyle, financial security and dignity.

    We have a way to safeguard and improve Pensions. We also know how to manage and pay for this well into the future AND balance the budget. Go to our website and read what we are about - Putting People First.
    Nikolai
    5th May 2014
    11:48am
    Another minority party that knows nothing about the real world and will be gone in a couple pf years
    KSS
    5th May 2014
    12:35pm
    Yes another one trick pony like the others:

    "I-drive-a-4x4-and-I-vote" party. "I-shoot-guns-and-I-vote" party. "I-take-drugs-and-I- vote" party. "I-am-a-fundamentalist-Christian-and-I-vote" party. etc etc.
    Huskie
    5th May 2014
    12:43pm
    BrianP, looked at your website tab "Policies".
    They are all "motherhood" statements with no substantial detail as to how and when they could/would be achieved not to mention no costings.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:37pm
    Ah - be patient. they all need to start somewhere. When the GP gets into full swing post-budget (that's bludge it for politicians) we will post not only our policy statements but as many details as possible PRE-election and there will be zero tolerance for corruption..... no BS here.... open government all the way.

    Now can anyone direct me to how to open an account or ten in the Bahamas? (just kidding).
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    8:51pm
    I went to Your Web Site and found a BIG BLACK SPIDER ?? Just like all the other Parties.. Venomous Nasty Critters !!
    wally
    5th May 2014
    11:33am
    Hi Wstaton. Regarding your comment on the stupidity of politicians, it might be worth whileconsidering the intelligence level of the voters who put them in office.
    moke
    5th May 2014
    3:00pm
    Wally there is not much choice, you must vote of get fined etc, there is only two choices and if you much up your paper your friends will tell you you are voting for the other side. So it aint the voters who are stupid you cant get out of it.
    Nikolai
    5th May 2014
    11:46am
    What a load of whingers - as I have said before this site is a propaganda site for the labour party - the idiots who wasted millions whilst in office and left the Liberal Party to rectify the matter as always happens. Why are people grizzling about the retirement age, the ones who will be effected by it dont start work until their mid to late twenties these days so they should be expected to work longer unless they do really heavy work then they should be retrained for lighter work. Get real stop expecting everything for nothing
    Pass the Ductape
    5th May 2014
    12:18pm
    Ha-ha. You're right about that Nikolia. But I think it's more likely that they don't start work until their mid twenties - is because you can't get them out of bed until then!
    Diamond Jim
    5th May 2014
    1:07pm
    Dream on Nikolai!!!
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    3:08pm
    I doubt anyone here expects 'everything for nothing' - we all worked for enough to get by on. What's your excuse?
    Nikolai
    5th May 2014
    4:13pm
    Know what you are talking about before making stupid comments, I left school at 15 and retired at 73, at one time I worked 5 nights a week as well. When I was made redundant after a company take over in my mid fifties, I hounded agencies to at least get 2 or 3 days work a week to cover my mortgage (at that time under a LABOUR government with 18.5% interest) I didnt expect handouts from the government like the current workforce, so I dont need excuses and have never wanted them obviously you do
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:21pm
    Then why the attitude towards others? You should know better than to jump on band wagons and cite unfounded statements like "Get real stop expecting everything for nothing ".

    Nobody expects anything for nothing - only what is right and due.

    Like so many others you assume you are the only one who worked etc - the rest are just bludgers. Ho-hum!
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:29pm
    Besides - maybe you need to look at some graphs - John Howard spent way more than labor did....

    Step outside your ideological chains for a moment... what did the Liberals ever do for you? Give you a big business or a fat retirement? A few $10 licences to prospect for minerals and then sell off the licences for billions?

    None so blind as they who refuse to see.... You can lead a human to wisdom, but you can't make him think.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:30pm
    What precisely are these " handouts from the government like the current workforce"?

    I see no such thing - I see a lot of handouts for businesses....

    You sound very confused.
    Diamond Jim
    5th May 2014
    7:10pm
    Yep! I certainly believe that you left school at 15!!! Please can you get it right!!! LABOR PARTY not LABOUR!!!
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    8:59pm
    You don't look a day over a Shade of Grey !!
    Anonymous
    6th May 2014
    12:35pm
    Phew !!!! Please call it a Labor Party never a Labour Party as that means work. We all like being chiefs but can't find the indians to do the work. Inefficient lazy lot. No wonder we cannot compete with other countries. Our country is a disgrace and all we think about is getting boozed up. Not like years back when men knew how to work. Also get rid of all the duplication of State governments. Twentythree million people cannot afford all this dead wood. Thousands of them.
    Old Fella
    5th May 2014
    11:56am
    Try this analogy ,I understand at Law, someone who threatens murder or mayhem can be charged with attempted murder or breeching the peace or with affray. Now the current government is posturing and threatening all manner of social upheaval. I sincerely hope the ramifications for the government are no less than that which is available to society at law for disruptive or abuse of society. My favourite moment this week has been seeing Joe Hockey apologise and reassure the Mining 'Gougers' about their fear of loss of diesel oil subsidy in the upcoming budget, which such Mining moguls claimed would be worse than the abolished Mining Taxes proposed previously. One good thing though for Tony and Joe, they both are assured of life after politics on a good wicket. It seems the sticky wicket is only for lesser mortals in the present Australian Society.
    unicorn
    5th May 2014
    11:59am
    It is impossible to lose faith in a Govt., you had none in to start with. Anyone who had faith in a Liberal government to start with must have been clutching at straws anyway.
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    12:13pm
    I guess that all people can do is choose the best of a bad lot. Maybe this is changing as people start drifting to fringe parties.

    How can one stop the rot when two major parties are as bad as each over and not really doing the job hey are put in their to do. Just sucking to whatever side of the spectume they support. We need a government who supports the people and the country not just one side of the political spectrum.
    tiger
    5th May 2014
    12:17pm
    A double dissolution of Parl bring it on quick and decisive
    Pass the Ductape
    5th May 2014
    12:07pm
    It won't matter what the Government says it will do or not do....the fact that most of what we enjoy today, as far as welfare is concerned, is clearly unsustainable in the long term. Cutting down on welfare has to occur at some point, which means the Government has to sell the idea....and putting the welfare cards on the table is the first salvo to be fired in a rather long process in achieving this. It won't be an easy sell but one way to help the cause, is if they themselves showed some leadership by dragging their snouts out of the tax-payer funded trough they're so attached to! Not doing so will only anger the tax paying public and make the process much more difficult for all. Not that I expect any politician to take note of this comment: overall, I think they're just too greedy to care.
    Renny
    5th May 2014
    12:36pm
    And the land of 'I'm all right Jack' takes over from the land of the fair go. Sad!
    KSS
    5th May 2014
    12:25pm
    Is there nothing else in the news to talk about? For the last couple of week we have had the same topic everyday with more or less the same responses from more or less the same people. Can we not give it a rest at least until the budget in unveiled and we actually know what to jump up and down about?
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:10pm
    And More and More of the same More or less people are saying More or less of the same More or less that they said More or Less about in the first Bloody place ?? I've noticed that too KSS !!
    Renny
    5th May 2014
    12:34pm
    What a load of rot the right espouses. Hockey saying we're doomed does not mak it so. We are doing well according to all OECD comparisons with the only threat to our economy all these idiot rich people talking the economy down. They're probably trying to bring share prices down so they can make a motza when society realises we are in a good position. Our major issues are free handouts to rich superannuants and not taxing miners like Twiggy and Gina enough for stealing our finite resources. As they say - those on the right are gullible and believe anything that's repeated often enough. Their private educations did not teach them to THINK or REASON. worst lying scumbag government ever.
    And I will whinge as I didn't vote for these lying bastards and can't believe how gullible people are t fall for spin.
    MarLin
    5th May 2014
    1:01pm
    It was then British PM Benjamin Disraeli who said, "It is the fashion to style the present moment an extraordinary crisis." Australia's economy currently holds three international AAA ratings - so maybe old Disraeli knew a thing or two about the mad monk and his "tighten your belt - look where it got me" amateur Treasurer before they were even born!
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:21pm
    I've got some AAA Batteries here and they are Currently holding no Charge ??
    Reeper
    5th May 2014
    1:01pm
    Firstly, let's wait for the budget. Governments of all persuasions have always leaked dribs and drabs to raise or lower expectations depending upon your political leanings. Once released, the budget will be no different from any other; there will be good and bad. The point about a budget is having a government strong enough to make decisions which may not be popular, but will eventually be beneficial to the whole country.
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    1:39pm
    Unfortunately these are one sided popular decisions.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:40pm
    And the next Rocket to Pluto departs at 10pm......
    Diamond Jim
    5th May 2014
    1:01pm
    ONE TERM TONY has that ring about it!!!
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:41pm
    Do you mean TwoTermTony Stinks ???
    Travellersjoy
    5th May 2014
    1:15pm
    Most age pensioners are women. Women and children use doctors more often. Most minimum wage earners are women. Easy marks for this lot. No courage for the really hard decisions - like taxing profits, trusts, etc. or reducing tax income foregone to large corporations.
    I will believe in fairness when I see corporates paying their way not relying on government handouts, and a super tax on super sized salaries, say, over $1 million pa.
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    1:44pm
    Definitely. Latest was in Victoria when a "Successful" businessman was given a $1.5M grant from the state government. Hold on a minute! if he is a successful businessman why does he need a government grant?
    musicveg
    5th May 2014
    1:52pm
    If everyone has to work until 70 how are the kids going to get jobs? Already the youth unemployment is so high,stop saying they don't want to work because the ones who do can't even get a fulltime job now,it will only get worse if they raise the pension age. Also they say we will live longer but will we be healthy enough to work or will we be in nursing care? Paying to see a doctor is cruel for those who have to go regularly. And why is the mining companies paying more tax and paying the same amount for fuel as we do? Surely they can afford it? Big business wins again.
    tiger
    5th May 2014
    2:22pm
    I am male 76 pensioner excellent health, no pain killers or drugs. perhaps see a Dr 4 times a year. Financial secure budget well. So I will wait for the good or bad news. However the sun will still rise every day after that and will still set every day, it won't be the end of the world.
    catsahoy
    5th May 2014
    3:05pm
    while i dont mind paying my way, its going to hard for me, and many like me who are different medications that you cannot get repeats on, some meds i get 5 repeats, so no worries, just go to the chemist for a repeat, but i take 3 medications that i cant get repeats for, so every month i have to go to doctor at least twice, going to find it hard to keep paying every month,

    5th May 2014
    2:52pm
    Not 'too much too soon' - there is simply no need nor mandate for any of these changes, created out of thin air by a group of self-interested business and other inexperienced clowns called a 'commission of audit'... Laughable lineup and laughable result, and nothing more than an opportunity to again line their pockets out of the public purse while pushing their own limited ideas of a sort of Boss Fascism.

    The biggest laugh is that ToeJoe are now pushing this fat cat's grab bag of a wish list as somehow not being a 'discussion point' but as some sort of Holy Grail handed down from the Gods themselves - something it was never intended to be nor ever should be.

    Nor ever will be - ye've my word on it!
    Wstaton
    5th May 2014
    3:06pm
    Yes COA paid $1500 a day ($390,000year) could have paid for 11 pensioners who probably could have done a better job.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    3:10pm
    Now THAT I can agree with!
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:33pm
    I Think they need an INDEPENDENT TRIBUNAL.. You know like the Mob that grants their Meagre Pay Rises !!
    shiner2348
    5th May 2014
    3:13pm
    I didn't vote for this mongrel lot and if he had told the truth neither would thousands more. So if i want to whinge i shall stripey
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:23pm
    And I too - I voted for the Grappler Party - actually the Republicans for a needed change.... wouldn't vote for either of the major parties or their hangers-on.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:36pm
    Well said in few words Shiner !!
    Anonymous
    6th May 2014
    12:38pm
    Shiner, you will be losing your gloss, they are all mongrels. How would you like more of Krudd.

    5th May 2014
    3:32pm
    The people deserve the Got they get...but wait a minute... the pension is safe....ah.... $1000 a fortnight soon.....
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:45pm
    And the next Rocket to Pluto departs at 10pm....

    5th May 2014
    3:39pm
    I want the Govt to shake the tree, to see the rotten apples fall off...LOL
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    9:49pm
    Newtons Law
    Polly Esther
    5th May 2014
    3:53pm
    Keep your chins up people. Life's not all beer and skittles. The sun will rise again. After all tomorrow is another day. Where's the spirit that made Oz the mighty land it is today. Raise your glasses and cheer Tony and Joe. They are doing the best they can under very difficult circumstances, brought about not by their doing. Remember "a fair go"?
    Fred
    5th May 2014
    4:02pm
    Bollocks! This pensions problem was Known to be coming During the years of liberal rule, they did nothing as usual. This would have required some long term vision and planning which none of our politicians have the motivation to do.
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:02pm
    You are right Flying Doctor. Do we just go cruising along as Labor were doing until we all fall off the cliff. I am prepared to take it on the chin. If we do not start to rein in the spending and the high interest we are paying there may be no pension.
    unicorn
    5th May 2014
    3:54pm
    That is just anoth to d s yet I kanower $5 for the doctors as far as I am concerned mine takes what Medicare gives her and is happy to do so yet there is a specialist I have been going to who reminds you when your appointment is due that there is a couple of hundred dollar fee to pay I get around $80 odd back. So I certainly wouldn't be happy with him or else he would expect something like $ 200 just free & clear. Not worth it when I can see another specialisr for the medicare price, why pay one an extra $120 ?
    There's more to it than an extra $5....
    bookwyrm
    5th May 2014
    4:59pm
    This is a American style libertarian Tea Party government, controlled by their masters such as Rupert Murdoch and Gina Rinehart. Tony Abbott was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and also got completely free education at Sydney University, no HECS debt for him.

    I don‘t want to live in a country styled on the USA. Join March Australia - formerly March in March 2014 - for a vote of no confidence in the Abbott Goverment. Google March in March 2014 for the web page and Facebook.

    5th May 2014
    5:00pm
    for goodness sake why are people going off the deep end when the Budget has NOT even been announced...it is on next Tuesday! Wait until you hear what is in it before everyone goes off half cocked!
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:25pm
    THEN you are free to shoot them all you want....
    Anonymous
    5th May 2014
    5:26pm
    In the meantime - keep your powder dry, praise the lord and pass the ammunition... and be prepared....
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    10:01pm
    Yes !!. being fully Cocked before the event may lead to a premature misconception.
    Anonymous
    6th May 2014
    12:44pm
    I am going to tighten my belt, eat less, drink less and enjoy a healthier lifestyle. Whoopee I knew there would be good news in the budget. When is the sky going to fall in. C'mon Aussies lets enjoy what we have, not what we don't have.
    Jennie
    5th May 2014
    5:32pm
    When you look at the people working in a voluntary capacity in, say, charity shops, hospitals, visiting the aged, planting trees etc, we see a lot of retirees. If these wonderful volunteers are in paid work instead (if there is any...) then this will cause a considerable loss to the community, and no government will pay to fill that gap.
    particolor
    5th May 2014
    10:09pm
    Jenny ..You missed a few !.. Child minding while the Parents work, Meals on wheels, Playing the Sugar Plum Fairy at Fetes etc. !! And voting for the wrong party !!
    bookwyrm
    6th May 2014
    12:37am
    I did three to four half days volunteer work each week for over eight years. Had to give it up due to my health. Why don‘t we have a volunteers strike - see how the governments react then?
    Nightshade
    5th May 2014
    11:42pm
    HOLDEN AUSTRALIA IS LEAVING US -
    GOOD RIDDANCE TO THEM -
    LOSERS -
    We so don't need parasitic losers in our wonderful country.

    NOW :-
    HAS EVERY ONE SEEN THE PROMOTIONAL VIDEO FOR THE HOLDEN VOLT ?
    IF NOT, WHY NOT ?
    google & have a look

    THEY TELL US THAT THE HOLDEN VOLT IS AN IMPORT :-

    ACCORDING TO MY INFORMATION THE HOLDEN VOLT WAS TOTALLY DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED IN AUSTRALIA BY AUSTRALIANS -

    THE HOLDEN VOLT IS OUR BABY -
    ARE WE GOOD, OR ARE WE GOOD !
    WE ARE FANTASTIC
    THEY HAVE DELIBERATELY HELD US BACK HIDING OUR LIGHT UNDER A BUSHEL

    It is being said that the Holden Volt has sold out - go figure that out mate

    Arnold Schwarzenegger has a new car - Mercedes-Benz SLS - a piece of German junk - OLD TECHNOLOGY & he has been tricked into feeling proud of his bomb ????
    Imagine the technology of the Holden Volt in a sports car design of the future.
    That would be a car fit for Arni - they could even call it TERMINATOR 1
    Nightshade
    5th May 2014
    11:59pm
    What baffles me is this :-

    THE CARBON TAX - MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING - CARBON TRADING - ETC.,

    With / based on the technology & on the proviso that the technology of the HOLDEN VOLT as the auto production of the future.

    WHY DID THE ABBOTT GOVERNMENT NOT LOOK INTO HOLDEN'S CONTINUED FUTURE IN AUSTRALIA AS A DYNAMIC & PROFITABLE INVESTMENT IN NOT OLY AUSTRALIA'S FUTURE BUT ALSO AS A CONTRIBUTION TO GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY ?

    Even blind Freddy could see it is a sure thing.
    Nightshade
    6th May 2014
    12:02am
    Exactly how many millions did we waste on the hysterical Tim Flannery & his - what was it that we gave him the millions for exactly ?
    All that dosh could have gone to Holden for the VOLT
    Wstaton
    6th May 2014
    10:53am
    Yes but CSIRO developed a electric/hybrid motor 30 years ago and I believe Holden built a prototype and then scrapped it saying it would never catch on.

    This is a great start though but I cannot understand why we are so far behind with the batteries. The Tesla S type in the USA can go 480 km on one charge. But it probably has more batteries.
    AlbertC
    6th May 2014
    7:09am
    here we go again the swingers rope is broken again now even they want change till the next election .come on get real you only vote for what you want and when you don,t get it you sook .our country is being run by pigs in pollies clothing. take a look at NSW libs totally corrupt and to my way of thinking the federal libs are no better. once again get the Governor genral to call a royal commision on the issue of all pollies lerks and perks which amounts to billions of dollars every year . have nice day
    particolor
    6th May 2014
    8:53am
    How can I have a nice day now ? I think we've been Robbed !!
    Anonymous
    6th May 2014
    12:51pm
    No no Just tighten your belt. We are an overfed pot bellied boozy lot. This budget will be good for all of us. Start exercising and eat less. Feel the joy of good health. Become an optimist instead of a pessimist. Go to the beach and have a free swim. You live in the best country on earth. Wake-up.

    6th May 2014
    12:56pm
    Lets get rid of Labors lack of ability and the borrow and hope mentality. Get rid of our debt. We have Krudd and Gillard and Bligh to thank for this present problem. Remember that. All Abbott is doing is trying to save our country from getting further down the gurgler. I cannot understand that the general public cannot see this. What is wrong with you all??????????????
    AlbertC
    6th May 2014
    7:56pm
    SPOKEN LIKE TRUE LIBERAL YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A LIBERAL LAP DOG NAME SAYS IT ALL DOGS BODY NO HEAD NO BRAIN JUST A LONG FURY TONGUE,!? HAPPY YAPING mate . NOW HAVE A NICE DAY.
    Anonymous
    7th May 2014
    7:43am
    Albert --- Are you some sort of communist or socialist?? Can't see the wood for the trees. Never mind, Labor lost and Tony will fix you. Keep borrowing and hoping. I can see who is lacking in brain power. You keep smiling and I am sure your days are wonderful.

    7th May 2014
    9:40am
    Can't wait for the Budget to come out...should be happy reading.....

    7th May 2014
    9:54am
    VOTERS REVOLT - ING...they sure are...they vote in these politicians

    7th May 2014
    9:57am
    Happy days are here again
    The budgets fine and good again
    Getting rid of parasites
    Happy days are here again.....